Scientific Claims Readers Said Sound Impossible

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Scientific Claims Readers Said Sound Impossible

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Across all 1,269 audited claims, the most common shape is a punchy, slightly overstated one-liner that a single reply narrows back to the actual mechanism — often from someone with direct clinical, technical, or firsthand experience. Browse by category for the exact claim, what commenters said actually happens, and where the popular version overreaches or gets corrected outright.

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  • Physics and space — 353 astronomy/cosmology entries and 133 quantum/relativity entries are dominated by commenters correcting each other's overstated claims and unit conversions, not new facts
  • Life sciences — the most reliable claims (prion disease, HIV treatment, dialysis, fecal transplants) are anchored by direct clinical or personal experience; consciousness and memory claims stretch furthest beyond the evidence
  • Chemistry and materials — punchy one-word claims ('metal teeth', 'transparent aluminum') routinely get walked back to more precise chemistry by a single reply, while the ritonavir-crystal story holds up under heavy cross-examination across 13 records
  • Earth and environment — after two rounds of recategorization moved genuinely astronomical, relativistic, and mathematical threads to their correct categories, the remaining geology/ocean/planetary-Earth entries are overwhelmingly core Earth science (coal formation, Appalachian orogeny, seafloor-mapping coverage, magnetic-field reversals, tsunami physics), not scale-reference borrowing
  • Mind, math, and information — the biggest recurring move is commenters correcting claims that something 'knows,' 'decides,' or 'counts' back down to blind physical or statistical processes
  • A cross-category pattern: a handful of single, detailed comments get mined repeatedly across several separate entries for different specific claims buried inside them
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Chemistry and materials25 records · 2 sub-topicsChemistry and materials — 25 named claims/discoveries
Chemistry, elements, and materials13 index entries · 34 source recordsChemistry, elements, and materials — 13 named claims/discoveries, 34 source records
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Scientific claim or discovery and how commenters explained or corrected it: Chemistry, elements, and materials

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Thomas Midgley Jr. helped develop tetraethyl lead to suppress damaging engine knock and later helped introduce chlorofluorocarbon refrigerants; both had severe environmental consequences
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What the pattern means: Commenters add a layer past the famous punchline that lead was added just to quiet engine knock: one points out the knock itself was actively damaging engines, so removing lead forced a shift to higher-octane fuel blends. Multiple replies independently converge on the same grim footnote, that this is the same chemist behind both leaded gasoline and CFC refrigerants, a detail often left out of the shorter version of the story.

What commenters described: those little detonations damage the engine. We developed different mixes of higher octane fuels to make up for the move away from lead

Dimethyl sulfide has not been confirmed on K2-18 b, and even a detection would require excluding abiotic chemistry before claiming life
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What the pattern means: One commenter treats a dimethyl sulfide detection on K2-18b as strong evidence of biology, since DMS on Earth has no known non-living source, while a second flatly disputes that the detection even holds up, calling it heavily contested rather than confirmed.

What commenters described: Dimyethyl Sulfide is only known to exist on Earth as a byproduct of life... it does not occur naturally through geologic origin.

Limit: the DMS detection is heavily contested. I wouldn’t say that we’ve confirmed DMS was detected on K2-18b

ALON is a transparent polycrystalline aluminum oxynitride ceramic used for durable optical and armor applications, not transparent elemental aluminum
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What the pattern means: The Star Trek reference gets grounded fast: a reply names the actual material, ALON, and admits to years of unsuccessful personal attempts to get hold of a sample just to prove to friends that transparent ceramic armor is a real, purchasable thing.

What commenters described: ALON Aluminium oxynitride. Been trying to get my hands on some for years. Just to prove to my friends it is real.

Cooked foods contain many thousands of chemical compounds, but the exact “26,000 and under 1% understood” statistic is not established
1 source record

What the pattern means: The '26,000 compounds, under 1% understood' figure shows up here as a single bare assertion, with no other comment in the record backing the specific numbers, naming a source, or explaining what 'understood' would even mean for a flavor compound.

What commenters described: There are over 26000 compounds that we know of in cooked food. WE fully understand less than 1% of them.

Limpet radular teeth contain exceptionally strong goethite-reinforced material
1 source record

What the pattern means: The claim that snail tooth enamel is the strongest biological material on Earth is really about limpets specifically, a distinction this single brief comment folds into a broader claim about snails having more teeth than any other animal without separating the two.

What commenters described: snails have the most teeth in the animal kingdom and their tooth enamel is the strongest biological material on earth

Levmetamfetamine is the less centrally potent enantiomer of methamphetamine used in some nasal inhalers; it is not Flonase
1 source record

What the pattern means: This entry never explains itself: the single comment behind it lands as a punchline rather than a claim, leaving levmetamfetamine's real identity as a legal decongestant enantiomer of methamphetamine, and the actual reason its mirror-image structure carries so much less stimulant potency, completely unaddressed.

What commenters described: The mirror image of a molecule of Meth is a type of Flonase.

Most industrial citric acid is made by controlled fermentation, commonly using Aspergillus niger
1 source record

What the pattern means: The industrial-fermentation origin of citric acid gets flattened into a single casual line calling Aspergillus niger 'black mould,' a shorthand that captures the fungal source behind most candy and cleaning-product citric acid without naming the actual organism or process involved.

What commenters described: Yeah you know citric acid the stuff in most candy and cleaning products? Yeah most of that comes from black mould

At water's triple point, ice, liquid water and water vapour coexist in equilibrium
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What the pattern means: The idea that water can boil and freeze at the same instant strikes the original poster as flatly illogical, and the single follow-up reply supplies the actual term for it: the triple point, where ice, liquid, and vapor sit in equilibrium together.

What commenters described: Water can boil and freeze simultaneously. This does seem illogical.

Ground-state molecular oxygen is a triplet diradical, and spin constraints help explain why many reactions require initiation, but this is not the only reason matter avoids spontaneous combustion
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What the pattern means: Ground-state oxygen is a triplet with two unpaired electrons, the supporting comment explains, and because its more reactive singlet form is rare while almost everything else sits in a singlet state, a spin-state mismatch is what actually keeps oxygen from reacting with its surroundings on contact.

What commenters described: the only reason everything isn’t just spontaneously combusting due to freaky reactive molecules is this weird anomaly in one of the most important elements for known life.

Researchers made experimental bioplastic-like material using DNA from salmon milt
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What the pattern means: A commenter reports experimental bioplastic made from salmon milt DNA with visible amusement at the source material, then admits genuine curiosity about how anyone landed on that specific binder in the first place.

What commenters described: This plastic is made from salmon cum. Apparently lots of things in the world are because it's a fantastic binder...

New, more stable crystal polymorphs can seed production and make an older pharmaceutical form difficult to reproduce, as happened with ritonavir
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What the pattern means: Commenters use ritonavir's real 1998 manufacturing crisis as the anchor fact, then spin out a hypothetical about progesterone suddenly losing its ability to be absorbed — a vivid thought experiment about hormones, not a documented case, that dramatizes just how contagious a new crystal form can be.

What commenters described: molecules that crystallize, can just start crystalline a different 'more efficient' way and then any attempt to make the old crystal can't be done anymore as the new crystal spreads and 'seeds' all attempts to make the old crystal.

A new ritonavir crystal form disrupted manufacture by reducing solubility
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What the pattern means: A long, detailed comment walks through why a stable HIV drug suddenly stopped dissolving properly in 1998 when a new crystal form appeared during manufacturing, linking it to the same chemistry Kurt Vonnegut fictionalized as ice-nine and noting Abbott spent roughly a quarter billion dollars re-engineering production.

What commenters described: The drug actually kept working, it just stopped dissolving in pill form. They stopped production of pills and started shipping an injectable form, which was inconvenient but patients were able to continue treatment.

Limit: There's no way to predict when a new, more stable polymorph will appear, or how many hidden crystal forms of a given chemical exist.

Phosgene can smell like freshly cut hay or grass at low concentrations, but odor is an unreliable warning and suspected exposure is a medical emergency
1 source record

What the pattern means: A firsthand warning describes phosgene's freshly-cut-hay smell showing up specifically when chlorinated brake cleaner residue gets welded before it fully evaporates, framing a single whiff as potentially life-ending rather than a manageable warning sign.

What commenters described: if you accidentally produce it by cleaning metal with chlorinated brake cleaner and then weld on it before it's dry. One whiff will ruin (or end) your life.

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The mirror image of a molecule of Meth is a type of Flonase.

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At any moment any medication could morph into a form that is unusable then contaminate the world making it impossible to ever have that medication again. It happened to ritanovir form 1.

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Last I read, the DMS detection is heavily contested. I wouldn’t say that we’ve confirmed DMS was detected on K2-18b

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Several of this category's most confident-sounding claims carry their own built-in correction: a direct reply calls the classic coal-formation lignin-gap story “an outdated hypothesis that has been thoroughly discredited,” a second commenter flags the K2-18b biosignature detection as “heavily contested,” and even the 8*10^53-element Monster group explainer ends by admitting nobody knows why the object exists. The one story that holds up under heavy cross-examination is the ritonavir crystal-polymorph disaster, corroborated across 13 separate records down to the exact quarter-billion dollars Abbott spent re-engineering production.

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Radiation, energy, and nuclear phenomena12 index entries · 37 source recordsRadiation, energy, and nuclear phenomena — 12 named claims/discoveries, 38 source records
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Scientific claim or discovery and how commenters explained or corrected it: Radiation, energy, and nuclear phenomena

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Super-Kamiokande uses ultra-pure water to reveal extremely faint Cherenkov light
1 source record

What the pattern means: The standout anecdote here is a wrench a technician dropped into the detector that came back the next day fully dissolved with no visible trace, though the same comment quietly undercuts the idea of true purity by noting that filtering still turns up leftover iron, chromium, and other trace metals in the water.

What commenters described: the wrench had dissolved. Not rusted away, it was gone. There was no visible trace of the wrench.

Limit: In the course of normal filtering, they're still finding traces of iron, chromium, and a couple of other metals in the water.

The claim that NASA stockpiled 286 CPUs because 386 chips were more radiation-sensitive is unverified
1 source record

What the pattern means: A commenter's recollection of a CPU magazine article, not a cited source, drives the claim that NASA favored older 286 chips because their larger transistor geometry supposedly resisted the radiation-induced glitches that plagued the smaller 386 die.

What commenters described: particles in space would energize the smaller form factor processors, causing malfunctions, but the 286 chips the circuits were large enough that to avoid that

Limit: The account traces back to a half-remembered magazine piece rather than a documented NASA engineering rationale, which is why the underlying claim stays unverified.

Bananas are mildly radioactive because natural potassium includes potassium-40, but ordinary consumption does not create a meaningful radiation hazard
1 source record

What the pattern means: The lone comment here is barely more than a caption confirming bananas read as radioactive, leaving the potassium-40 mechanism and any safety threshold to context the commenter never actually supplies.

What commenters described: Bananas are slightly radioactive

Some rocks contain unstable isotopes that release ionizing radiation, which can damage living tissue at sufficient dose
1 source record

What the pattern means: One commenter's disbelief carries this entry: ordinary-looking rocks emit enough ionizing radiation that humanity built bombs from the phenomenon, which the same person treats as stranger than anything else in the thread.

What commenters described: we can just, like, find rocks?!? That gives off energy?!?

Limit: The commenter notes prolonged proximity to such rocks damages the body rather than framing the radioactivity as a harmless curiosity.

Tesla invoked Earth-scale electrical resonance and conduction, but his proposed worldwide power-distribution system was never demonstrated; “never had any chance of working” is a stronger engineering verdict than the cited historical record establishes.
1 source record

What the pattern means: Explaining Wardenclyffe, one commenter delivers a confident verdict that Tesla's scheme 'did not at any point have any chance of working,' which is a firmer engineering judgment than the historical record of an untested, unfinished project can really support.

What commenters described: This did not at any point have any chance of working, but he was sure as hell trying.

Tesla’s patented wireless-energy scheme proposed propagating electrical impulses through natural media including the Earth and conducting upper air, so describing Wardenclyffe as simply transmitting power through the air is incomplete.
1 source record

What the pattern means: The same Tesla comment corrects a common misconception about the mechanism, not just the outcome: Wardenclyffe was never meant to beam power through open air, but to push electrical impulses through the ground itself using the Earth's own resonant frequency.

What commenters described: a lot of people assume Tesla's goal at Wardenclyffe was to transmit power wirelessly through the air. This is not correct - He was trying to transmit power wirelessly through the ground.

Gabon also contains the Oklo fossil reactor zones where self-sustaining nuclear fission occurred naturally about two billion years ago
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What the pattern means: News of Gabon's natural fission reactor gets stacked onto another Gabon fact already in the thread, prompting a joke that all the planet's freak geology just happened to concentrate in one country.

What commenters described: You telling me Gabon has the only known natural nuclear reactor AND THIS??

Hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles combine stored hydrogen with oxygen to produce electricity and water; water is an output, not a free primary fuel
1 source record

What the pattern means: The compressed 'water powers cars' framing skips the actual chemistry: a hydrogen fuel cell combines stored hydrogen with oxygen to generate electricity, with water left over afterward as a byproduct rather than serving as the fuel itself.

Bananas contain potassium-40, whose rare beta-plus decay branch emits positrons, so they produce tiny amounts of antimatter
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What the pattern means: A single explanatory reply supplies the actual mechanism behind the antimatter claim, describing potassium-40 releasing a positron roughly every ninety minutes that annihilates against a nearby electron in what the commenter calls a 'sub-atomic kaboom.'

What commenters described: Every hour and a half or so, every banana produces a positron, which is an antimatter electron. It soon contacts an electron, and both are destroyed in a sub-atomic kaboom.

At ordinary nuclear density, the mass of today's human population would occupy only a few cubic centimetres—roughly a small sugar cube—but this is a hypothetical density comparison, not intact people or a neutron star
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What the pattern means: One commenter backs up the sugar-cube comparison with a museum memory, recalling an American Museum of Natural History exhibit where a proton was rendered as a single period-sized dot relative to a room-sized sphere standing in for a hydrogen atom.

What commenters described: If the Hayden Sphere were a hydrogen atom, then the relative size of a proton would be the tiny period-sized dot they had on the sign.

MRI uses a static field, radiofrequency excitation, magnetic-field gradients, and mathematical reconstruction to map nuclear magnetic-resonance signals—not atoms literally flipping upside down
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What the pattern means: An MRI technologist and several repliers credit the Fourier transform, not the magnet itself, as the real trick behind the scan — unscrambling overlapping radio signals the way an ear might reconstruct sheet music from a full orchestra.

What commenters described: It is basically the mathematical equivalent of listening to a full orchestra and being able to perfectly reconstruct the sheet music for every individual instrument just by hearing the final result.

Clinical MRI grew from nuclear magnetic resonance physics; claims that it came directly from astrophysical hydrogen-cloud analysis or that one sole inventor tested it after writing a will are misleading
3 source records

What the pattern means: A retired radiology tech recalls colleagues laughing off early 1970s reports of imaging with magnets, while a separate comment stretches MRI's astrophysics-adjacent NMR roots into an overstated claim that both technologies came directly from analyzing distant hydrogen clouds.

What commenters described: Did you see what they're doing with MAGNETS?!? ... Everyone kind of laughed and went, "Sure, magnets. Hahaha." And here we are.

Limit: the guy who invented it decided to test it on himself and wrote his last will and testament…he wasn't sure he would come out of it alive

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Look, we can stand here all day listing off every fucked up thing we have found, but I still can’t get over the fact we know, for a fact, because we used it to make BOMBS!!!! That we can just, like, find rocks?!? That gives off energy?!? And if you’re around them too long your body starts to break apart over it?!?!

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Every hour and a half or so, every banana produces a positron, which is an antimatter electron. It soon contacts an electron, and both are destroyed in a sub-atomic kaboom.

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When I had my first MRI I remember being told that it displaces all the hydrogen molecules in your body and captures it on the 3d camera? Correct me if I'm wrong

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Half of this set is raw astonishment that ordinary matter is quietly radioactive or fissile — bananas, rocks, a natural fission reactor in Gabon, ultra-pure neutrino-detector water dissolving a dropped wrench — while the other half is commenters intercepting a pop-science shorthand (chips that supposedly 'resist' radiation, MRI atoms 'flipping upside down,' vision running at a fixed 'frame rate') and replacing it with the real mechanism underneath.

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Earth and environment30 records · 2 sub-topicsEarth and environment — 30 named claims/discoveries
Geology, oceans, and planetary Earth16 index entries · 32 source recordsGeology, oceans, and planetary Earth — 16 named claims/discoveries, 33 source records
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Carboniferous coal did not accumulate because wood existed for tens of millions of years before anything could decompose it
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What the pattern means: This entry contains its own rebuttal: one commenter lays out the standard story that lignin outran fungal decomposers by millions of years, letting dead trees pile up into what became Carboniferous coal, and the very next reply calls that same explanation an outdated hypothesis that's been thoroughly discredited, citing the identical source.

What commenters described: for 30 million years, dead trees just piled up, covered with other vegetation. This sequestered enough carbon to lower the global temperature significantly.

Limit: If you actually read that wiki you will see that it doesn’t support that hypothesis. That is an outdated hypothesis that has been thoroughly discredited

The Appalachian orogeny began before the first forests and before the Atlantic Ocean, although individual rocks and present landforms have different ages
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What the pattern means: The thread turns the Appalachians' age into a running one-upmanship game, stacking comparisons — older than Saturn's rings, older than bones, older than the Atlantic Ocean itself — on top of the standard older-than-the-trees framing.

What commenters described: the Appalachian mountains are older than Saturn's rings.

Appalachian, Caledonian, and related ranges were connected parts of Paleozoic mountain belts assembled during continental collisions, though 'one range' simplifies a long sequence
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What the pattern means: Commenters extend the Appalachians into a genuinely continental picture, tracing the same Paleozoic belt through Greenland, Norway, Scotland, and the rest of former Pangea, down to a rain-shadow desert the range once carved across half the supercontinent.

What commenters described: there are trilobite fossils on the summit of Mount Everest from when it was once the floor of the Tethys ocean.

Interferometric synthetic-aperture radar can measure line-of-sight ground deformation at millimetre-to-centimetre scales under favorable conditions
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What the pattern means: Two terse comments capture the actual capability well: satellite radar can pick out millimetre-scale shifts in the ground's surface, and the same interferometry trick can spot disturbances on open water caused by something submerged beneath it.

What commenters described: You can use SAR from satellites in space to measure the disturbance on the surface of a small area of water and determine if there's an object submerged there.

Most of the ocean remains poorly observed directly even though satellites map broad surface and seafloor features
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What the pattern means: In just one line, a commenter names the ocean itself as the impossible-sounding discovery, not a specific creature or feature, but the plain fact that so much of what's down there on our own planet has simply never been seen.

What commenters described: So much unexplored surfaces we've never seen here on earth.

The entire seafloor has coarse satellite-derived coverage, but as of April 2026 only 28.7% had been mapped with modern high-resolution multibeam sonar.
1 source record

What the pattern means: The 'we know more about Mars than our own ocean floor' line does real work here, giving readers a gut-level sense of how little of the deep sea has actually been surveyed compared to a planet tens of millions of miles away.

What commenters described: We literally know more about the surface of Mars than we know of the ocean floors on our own planet.

“We know more about Mars than our ocean floor” is rhetorically powerful but not a well-defined scientific comparison unless resolution, area, geology, biology, or direct exploration is specified.
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What the pattern means: That exact same Mars-versus-seafloor comparison gets repeated as its own separate answer, which is telling on its own: the line is popular precisely because it's punchy, even though it never specifies whether the comparison is about resolution, coverage area, or biological cataloguing.

Limit: Nothing in the comment defines what "know more about" actually measures, which is exactly what makes the comparison persuasive rhetoric rather than a precise scientific claim.

Gamma-ray bursts are tightly beamed, but their short observed duration is intrinsic to the burst class—typically milliseconds to seconds—not primarily caused by Earth and the source sweeping past one another.
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What the pattern means: Correcting the microwave-the-whole-planet framing, one reply narrows a hypothetical gamma-ray burst's direct effect to whichever hemisphere faces the source, while noting that if the burst were close enough the resulting atmospheric and oceanic damage could still doom the far side indirectly.

What commenters described: The bursts are extremely focused and both the Earth and source would be moving relative to each other, so it would be a very brief event. It would only hit the half of the planet facing it.

Dry Falls and the Channeled Scablands were carved largely by repeated catastrophic Ice Age Missoula floods
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What the pattern means: This answer is just a place name offered with no elaboration, Dry Falls in Washington state, leaving the reader to look up on their own that the dry, mile-wide cataract was carved by repeated catastrophic ice-age megafloods rather than any ordinary river.

What commenters described: The creation of Dry Falls in Washington state.

Carboniferous coal did not form simply because decomposers had not evolved; waterlogged low-oxygen peatlands, climate, plants, sediment burial, and tectonics controlled preservation
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What the pattern means: Commenters run with the coal-formation premise into science-fiction territory, speculating that alien civilizations without a carboniferous-style pileup might hit a technological ceiling for lack of a coal age.

What commenters described: Without coal, other species would have a problem we didnt need to solve... that absence could drive innovation we dont consider or it could be a stopping point for technological limits.

The earliest phases of Appalachian mountain building began roughly 470–480 million years ago, predating the first known trees by tens of millions of years.
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What the pattern means: A neat geological aside notes the Appalachians began forming tens of millions of years before the first trees existed, meaning those early mountains stood bare for an immense stretch of time.

What commenters described: after the Appalachian Mountains were formed, they weren't covered with trees because they are older than trees

Earth's magnetic field has reversed many times, but reversals are irregular, slow on human timescales and not predictably imminent
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What the pattern means: The timeline offered for Earth's next magnetic pole flip is about as loose as it gets — 'could happen tomorrow, could happen in 1000 years' — which is itself the honest and accurate takeaway rather than a limitation of the comment.

What commenters described: Our magnetic North Pole is expected to flip to the South Pole. It could happen tomorrow, could happen in 1000 years.

Quicksand is real water-saturated loose sediment that loses strength under disturbance, but people usually cannot sink completely because the human body is less dense
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What the pattern means: The commenter's own uncertainty carries the whole comment: a half-remembered childhood scare about 'moving sands' they admit they're 'not sure' even exist, offered as a memory of being frightened rather than any actual description of quicksand's real behavior.

Two large low-shear-velocity provinces in Earth's mantle have been proposed as remnants of the Moon-forming Theia impactor, but the identification is a model-based hypothesis
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What the pattern means: The original poster presents a striking, still-active idea as settled fact: that two massive structures deep in Earth's mantle are leftover chunks of the Moon-forming impactor Theia, possibly still shaping plate tectonics today.

What commenters described: We have likely found the remnants of Theia, the planet that crashed into Earth and formed the Moon. It’s been buried in our own mantle, possibly influencing tectonics to this very day.

Limit: This is described in the literature as a hypothesis built on seismic modeling, not a confirmed identification of Theia's remains.

A tsunami can cross deep ocean near jetliner speeds and then slow and grow in shallow water
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What the pattern means: The original poster states the tsunami speed figure with no elaboration, leaving out the detail that this jetliner-like pace only applies in deep water before the wave slows and grows dramatically near shore.

What commenters described: Tsunami speed, they can move at 900km/h

Limit: The post gives only the deep-ocean speed, omitting that the wave's behavior changes substantially, slower but taller, once it reaches shallow coastal water.

Krakatoa’s 1883 pressure wave circled Earth multiple times and caused severe hearing injury nearby; 310 dB is a reconstructed source estimate
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What the pattern means: A commenter walks through Krakatoa's 1883 eruption using the sourced 310-decibel estimate, noting the pressure wave was still strong enough to rupture eardrums 160 kilometers out and circled the globe multiple times.

What commenters described: The pressure wave circled the entire globe multiple times and was detected by barometers as far away as Europe.

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Here's a third, the Appalachian mountains are older than Saturn's rings.

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The Appalachian mountains are older than bones

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What's wild is that the 310 dB estimate is at the source — at 160km away it was still loud enough to rupture eardrums. The pressure wave circled the entire globe multiple times and was detected by barometers as far away as Europe. Hard to wrap your head around how much energy that single event released.

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Only about a third of this bucket's 37 entries are genuine geology, ocean, or planetary-Earth science — the Appalachian orogeny's age and continent-spanning extent, Carboniferous coal formation, Dry Falls' megaflood origin, magnetic pole reversals, InSAR ground-deformation radar, Europa's subsurface ocean, tsunami physics; the rest use "the whole Earth" mainly as a scale reference for physics, history, or medicine — a gamma-ray burst "microwaving the planet," Tesla's ground-conduction resonance scheme, a string encircling the globe, an ant pheromone trail spanning it three times, Cold War remote viewing, a decades-later HIV survival story. The strongest recurring pattern across both clusters is a second commenter showing up specifically to walk back an overstated first claim: gamma rays don't literally microwave anything, Wardenclyffe transmitted through ground not air, "we know more about Mars" begs the question of what's actually being measured, and alien life "definitely" existing outruns the evidence.

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Weather, atmosphere, and climate14 index entries · 31 source recordsWeather, atmosphere, and climate — 14 named claims/discoveries, 33 source records
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Stratospheric ozone forms from oxygen photochemistry and absorbs harmful ultraviolet radiation; an ozone hole does not mean the atmosphere is running out of breathable oxygen
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What the pattern means: Replies to the ozone-hole explainer kept sliding into the same mix-up the item corrects: several readers processed 'no ozone' as 'no oxygen' before being reminded that a thinning layer means more ultraviolet exposure, not suffocation. One commenter's memory of stepping into harsh Australian sun anchored the stakes in something felt rather than abstract.

What commenters described: My skin felt like millions of pins and needles hitting me.

Limit: if there was no oxygen or ozone, then there wouldnt be any worry about skin cancer. since, we would cease to exist.

Genghis Khan-era depopulation measurably lowered atmospheric carbon
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What the pattern means: The Khan-era carbon dip drew an immediate parallel from one reader to a similar drop attributed to the European conquest of the Americas, prompting another to mention they were already reading up on Inca, Maya, and Aztec history. A third pointed to the empire's sheer reach, from Korea to Hungary and Egypt, as context for how depopulation at that scale could leave an atmospheric trace.

What commenters described: Same with the European conquest of the Americas

If global photosynthesis stopped, food webs would fail rapidly, while atmospheric oxygen depletion would occur on a much longer and model-dependent timescale than a few millennia
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What the pattern means: Replying to the claim that a photosynthesis shutdown wouldn't crash oxygen levels for millennia, commenters converged on the same correction: the atmosphere's oxygen reserve versus daily biological usage is genuinely enormous, but the food web collapses on a much faster clock, since plant-eaters and then carnivores start dying long before the air itself becomes a problem.

What commenters described: It is just a comment on the amount of O2 available in the atmosphere vs the usage.

Limit: When vegan and vegetarian species die, carnivores also don't survive much longer.

The Carnian Pluvial Episode was a roughly 1–2-million-year interval of repeated wetter-climate pulses about 234–232 million years ago, not nonstop rain everywhere
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What the pattern means: The pitch of nonstop rain for a million-plus years got the imaginative treatment -- one commenter pictured stepping outside into a shower that simply never lets up -- while another complained that 'the pluvial episode' alone is too vague a name to guess at without naming the Carnian specifically.

What commenters described: It rained for 1-2 million years straight.

NASA estimates that a suitably aimed gamma-ray burst could significantly affect Earth from up to roughly 10,000 light-years away; atmospheric models around 2 kpc predict severe, multi-year ozone depletion rather than guaranteed destruction of all life.
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What the pattern means: One reply worked the angular-spread math in detail -- a burst's beam runs roughly two degrees wide, the closest known gamma-ray bursts sit millions of light-years off, and anything actually lethal to Earth would require physically implausible beam tightness -- while a second reply, working from vaguer memory, arrived at the opposite worry: a fatal burst from millions of light-years away that would be essentially undetectable in advance.

What commenters described: For something 8,000 lightyears away to be energetic enough to blast us hard enough to kill everything... that's ludicrous levels of energy.

Limit: we'd need to keep track of a LOT of stars to even have a vague chance of seeing it coming to then not be able to actually do anything about it anyway.

Earth shields its far side from the prompt, line-of-sight gamma-ray beam, but atmospheric chemistry and later ultraviolet and climate effects can spread beyond the initially illuminated hemisphere.
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What the pattern means: Both replies agree the beam itself only ever reaches the hemisphere facing the source, since the planet physically blocks direct line of sight, but one goes further, noting that a close enough burst could still doom the shadowed side through atmospheric and ocean chemistry damage even though it was never directly hit.

What commenters described: it'd probably only get half the planet. The other side would be insulated by, well...the planet.

Limit: If the source burst were close enough, the resulting atmospheric and ocean chemistry damage could still doom the shadowed hemisphere even though the burst itself never reached it directly.

Climate change has multiple tipping risks, not one global point after which action is useless; every increment of warming avoided reduces harm
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What the pattern means: Commenters pushed back specifically on climate fatalism, arguing that 'point of no return' is loose shorthand rather than one hard threshold, and that ongoing greening efforts still meaningfully reduce future impact and buy time even as warming continues past individual markers.

What commenters described: Greenifying will still massively reduce the future impact of climate change, buy us more time and will make it easier to fix things later on.

Limit: There's still a good bit of unknown there, especially as studies constantly come out updating our previous hypotheses on what would occur.

Measurements tightly constrain possible variation in fundamental constants; no temporal variation is established
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What the pattern means: No named constant, mechanism, or timescale accompanies the claim that major physical constants drift over time -- just a bare assertion the item's synthesis then weighs against decades of precision measurement.

What commenters described: A lot of our major 'constants' in physics, change over time

Limit: The claim names no specific constant, mechanism, or timescale, and stands against measurements that tightly constrain any such variation.

The 1859 Carrington geomagnetic storm disrupted telegraph systems across wide regions, including Europe and North America.
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What the pattern means: Starting from the 1859 Carrington storm's confirmed telegraph outages across Europe and America, one commenter extrapolates well past that historical record to picture a modern repeat wiping out computing infrastructure and the power grid across a third of the planet.

What commenters described: In 1859 there were a series of flares from the sun so strong it knocked out telegraph systems all over Europe and America.

Limit: The prediction that a repeat event would wipe out modern computer infrastructure and plunge a third of the planet into hardship is the commenter's own extrapolation, not part of the historically documented 1859 event.

Because a breath contains about 10^22 molecules and the atmosphere mixes enormously, a modern breath is statistically likely to contain molecules once breathed by Napoleon and many other people
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What the pattern means: Stripped of any supporting math, the underlying comment just asserts that the air we breathe contains molecules Napoleon once breathed, leaving the statistical case -- roughly 10^22 molecules per breath and thorough atmospheric mixing -- entirely to the item's own framing.

What commenters described: Air molecules that we are breathing, have molecules the Napoleon breathed.

Limit: The comment offers no supporting calculation, leaving the statistical argument entirely to the item's own framing rather than the source record.

Water vapor is the most abundant greenhouse gas and mainly amplifies temperature changes as a feedback
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What the pattern means: Warmer air holds more water vapor, and since water vapor is itself the most abundant greenhouse gas, the supporting comment describes a loop where added moisture amplifies whatever warming trend started it, without addressing why water vapor counts as feedback rather than a primary driver.

What commenters described: The most abundant greenhouse gas is water vapor and warmer air holds more water vapor creating a feedback loop

Limit: The comment doesn't explain why water vapor is classified as an amplifying feedback rather than an independent driver, a distinction the item makes explicit.

OSHA defines an oxygen-deficient atmosphere as below 19.5% by volume for workplace safety
1 source record

What the pattern means: An oxygen-deficient atmosphere isn't zero oxygen, the supporting comment clarifies on its own -- it only needs to fall below the 19.5% threshold OSHA sets for workplace safety to count as a hazard.

What commenters described: It only has to drop below 19.5% to be a problem

The Sun is about eight light-minutes away, but sunburn is caused mainly by ultraviolet radiation and atmospheric ozone is the relevant shield; Earth’s magnetosphere primarily deflects charged particles, not UV photons.
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What the pattern means: Buried inside the GRB explainer is an offhand comparison meant to calibrate scale: the Sun sits a mere 8 light-minutes away and is already intense enough to burn skin even filtered through the atmosphere and magnetosphere.

Limit: The comment credits the magnetosphere alongside the atmosphere for sunburn protection, when it's really atmospheric ozone filtering ultraviolet light that does that job; the magnetosphere mainly deflects charged particles.

A severe modern geomagnetic storm could disrupt satellites, navigation, communications, and electric grids, but claims that it would erase all computer infrastructure and cause one-third of humanity to starve are unsupported extrapolations.
1 source record

What the pattern means: A commenter draws a real historical parallel, the 1859 solar storm that knocked out telegraph lines across two continents, then extrapolates it into a much larger claim about wiping out all modern infrastructure and starving a third of humanity.

Limit: The infrastructure-collapse and mass-starvation figures are the commenter's own extrapolation, not a cited estimate from the historical event or from modern grid-vulnerability studies.

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Carnian? Be specific bro, nobody will just guess what u talking about

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Oh yes, you are right, we would be quickly doomed because of food production. I was just referring to the oxygen deplation which I thought would be way quicker

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It is just a comment on the amount of O2 available in the atmosphere vs the usage. I was surprised when I red it somewhere, thinking that it would deplete much, much quickly. See

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This category is anchored by a genuine cluster of atmosphere-and-climate items -- ozone-layer photochemistry, the multi-million-year timescale for oxygen depletion versus food-web collapse, gamma-ray-burst atmospheric damage, water-vapor feedback, the Carnian Pluvial Episode's rains, and the 1859 Carrington storm's telegraph outages -- where the recurring pattern is a top comment overstating or oversimplifying a threat and replies supplying the correcting math or nuance; alongside that cluster sit a handful of items (bear-spray deployment, MRI tattoo burns, honeybee circadian timing, mantis-shrimp sonoluminescence, drifting physical constants) that touch 'weather' or 'atmosphere' only in passing and don't share that debunking pattern.

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Fresh-cut-grass odor comes largely from green leaf volatiles released by damaged tissue; these chemicals can prime defenses, affect herbivores, and attract their enemies, but 'distress signal' is metaphorical
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What the pattern means: This thread turned into a real debate over what 'distress signal' even means: several commenters insisted the cut-grass smell recruits predators of the herbivore doing the damage, while others framed it as an internal cue telling nearby grass to stash sugars in the roots before being grazed. One reply cut through the metaphor entirely, pointing out that nobody has actually shown the scent is a deliberate warning rather than a chemical byproduct other organisms simply learned to exploit.

What commenters described: It's alerting other things that can smell the grass...that there's an herbivore to eat. Once the herbivore is gone and dealt with, the grass survives.

Limit: We don't know that it's made as a distress signal. We just know that other things and other grass react to it.

The scaly-foot hydrothermal-vent snail incorporates iron-sulfide minerals—mainly pyrite and greigite—into outer shell layers and foot sclerites; this is neither metallic iron nor iron oxide
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What the pattern means: A punchy claim that this hydrothermal-vent snail is armored in actual metal gets corrected in the same thread, but the correction overshoots too: it lands on iron oxide, when the minerals documented in the animal's shell and foot sclerites are iron sulfides -- pyrite and greigite -- which are chemically distinct from both elemental iron and any oxide.

What commenters described: Volcanic snails with metal shells

Limit: It's iron oxide, not metallic iron.

Komodo dragons maintain an iron-rich coating on the serrated cutting edges and tips of their teeth
2 source records

What the pattern means: The reveal that Komodo dragon teeth carry an iron-rich coating gets deflated almost immediately by a one-line reply noting human tooth enamel also contains iron, reframing the fact from an exotic anomaly into a difference of degree rather than kind.

What commenters described: Komodo dragons have metal in their teeth.

Limit: i mean... so do we

Platypuses use cheek pouches for food and the tail for nesting material.
1 source record

What the pattern means: The cheek-pouch and tail-nesting detail arrives as a throwaway 'bonus fact' tacked onto a much longer post about platypus electroreception and its bizarre ten-chromosome sex-determination system, almost lost under the more headline-grabbing genetics.

What commenters described: they also have cheek pockets like hamsters, and can use their tail to carry nesting materials!

Platypuses lack a functional acid-secreting stomach; food passes through a reduced nonglandular gastric region into the intestine.
1 source record

What the pattern means: A commenter walks through the mechanics rather than just stating the fact: platypuses mash food with keratinous bill plates instead of teeth, and since there's no real stomach, the mixture -- grit, pebbles, and all -- heads straight into the intestine where gut muscles finish the grinding.

What commenters described: the food passes directly into the intestines, where the grit and pebbles help a little bit more with the processing since its all being ground up together by gut muscles.

Ant nestmate recognition commonly uses cuticular-hydrocarbon blends as chemical identity cues, and some social parasites evade detection through chemical mimicry or low chemical visibility.
1 source record

What the pattern means: A commenter contrasts ants favorably against bees on chemical sophistication, citing a trail pheromone so potent that a single milligram could mark a line three times around the planet, then admits that despite this hypersensitive chemical policing, certain parasitic butterfly larvae still slip past it and nobody is quite sure how.

What commenters described: Atta texana is so sensitive to it's trail pheromone, that 1mg would be enough to leave a trail 3 times around the planet

Limit: It's quite difficult to fool an ant's sense of smell, but some parasites do manage it. We aren't entirely sure how.

Eyestalk ablation is used in crustacean aquaculture and research to alter reproductive endocrine control, and it raises substantial welfare concerns
3 source records

What the pattern means: A single mention of eyestalk ablation was enough to visibly unsettle the thread — one reply refuses outright to look it up, and another, having looked, mostly wants to know how anyone stumbled onto the technique in the first place.

What commenters described: I learned about this a while ago and it's horrific.

Shrimp treadmill experiments are real physiological research tools, not evidence by themselves of wasteful science
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What the pattern means: The 'shrimp on a treadmill' punchline resurfaces with commenters clarifying what the joke usually erases: the setup was built to study how bacteria and pollution exposure affect shrimp immune function, not to burn research funding for its own sake.

What commenters described: It investigated how bacteria and pollution affect the immune systems of shrimp!

Limit: The first reply flags that this exact study has previously been "used politically" as shorthand for wasteful science spending, a framing the commenters here explicitly reject.

Cougar, puma, and mountain lion are common names for Puma concolor; 'panther' is ambiguous and can also refer to melanistic leopards or jaguars
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What the pattern means: A zoo tour-guide fact anchors this one — that Puma concolor holds the record for common names of any animal — while another reply flags 'panther' as the odd one out, since it can just as easily mean a melanistic leopard or jaguar.

What commenters described: At the San Diego zoo, the tour guide said mountain lions have the most common names of any animal.

Limit: "Panther" is called out as genuinely ambiguous, since it's used for several unrelated big cats rather than as a synonym confined to Puma concolor.

Mantis shrimp can damage aquarium glass, but the categorical claim that they cannot be kept in regular aquariums is husbandry advice rather than a universal experimental result.
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What the pattern means: A single reply grounds the mantis-shrimp punching-through-glass claim in the physical detail that makes it plausible — the strike happens underwater, where drag should sap most punches of their force, yet these still hit hard enough that regular aquarium glass isn't considered safe.

What commenters described: this punch is executed underwater, with all the momentum-killing water resistance that implies... Mantis shrimps can punch through glass.

Transgenic goats have produced recombinant spider-silk proteins in milk, which researchers purified and spun into fibers; the milk itself does not directly form ready-made silk
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What the pattern means: The pitch here is genuinely wild on its face — goats carrying spider genes so their milk contains spider-silk proteins — and the original poster states it as a direct fibre-making shortcut without mentioning the purification and spinning steps researchers actually needed afterward.

What commenters described: Someone injected goats with spider Genes to create spider silk proteins in their milk that makes super strong fibres.

Atta texana workers follow extremely dilute trails of methyl 4-methylpyrrole-2-carboxylate; the famous “three times around Earth” figure is a theoretical extrapolation from sensitivity and total colony pheromone, not a literal trail experiment.
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What the pattern means: Answering a tangent about queen-recognition in bees, one commenter pivots into an ant chemoreception infodump, describing Atta texana workers as so sensitive to their trail pheromone that a milligram, a five-hundredth of a headache pill, would theoretically stretch a detectable trail three times around the planet.

What commenters described: Atta texana is so sensitive to it's trail pheromone, that 1mg would be enough to leave a trail 3 times around the planet... 1/500th of that.

Platypuses routinely dive and can disappear quickly beneath moving water, but one personal video is anecdotal rather than independent evidence.
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What the pattern means: A commenter's own flood-footage story shows how fast platypuses vanish underwater: they were filming what looked like a stick drifting downstream until it disappeared mid-shot, and only reviewing the recording afterward confirmed it had actually been a diving platypus.

What commenters described: I noticed something floating down stream. It looked like a stick... this 'stick' all of a sudden disappeared. I had to look at the video to confirm it was actually a platypus diving.

Limit: It's one person's home video from a single flood event, not an independently verified or repeated observation.

Male seahorses brood embryos in a vascularized pouch after females deposit eggs, then undergo labor-like contractions to release young
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What the pattern means: This entire answer is a single blunt sentence, and it doesn't need more: male seahorses are the ones who carry the pregnancy, brooding embryos inside a pouch after the female transfers her eggs to him.

What commenters described: Male seahorses brood embryos in a pouch.

EPA-registered bear spray is the recommended accessible deterrent; weather and deployment matter, and firearms do not replace prevention
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What the pattern means: Backcountry commenters backed the accessible-deterrent guidance with real experience -- one recalled a dog waking to a grizzly fifty feet from camp after they'd left bear spray behind -- while others argued spray alone underestimates how much damage a bear can absorb, citing a Swedish hunting exam story about a brown bear having roughly ten seconds and a hundred meters left even after a solid brain shot.

What commenters described: its recommended to make noise, like attaching small bells to your pack in bear country, and to strong pepper spray meant for bear repellent, not the keychain one.

Limit: Bear spray is prone to failure for reasons ranging from weather to disposition of the bear.

Horses can outrun grizzly bears at top speed, though estimates overlap and terrain and endurance matter
1 source record

What the pattern means: Stated in four blunt words with no elaboration, the underlying comment claims horses can outrun grizzly bears, leaving the nuance about overlapping speed estimates, terrain, and endurance entirely to the item's own framing rather than to anything in the source record.

What commenters described: Horses can ran as fast as grizzly bears.

Limit: The single comment offers no supporting detail on distance, terrain, or endurance, despite the item description's caveat that those factors matter.

Rapid mantis-shrimp strikes create cavitation bubbles whose collapse produces shock, heat, and sometimes light; sonoluminescence is the emitted light, not an alternative that excludes high transient temperature.
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What the pattern means: Getting specific about the physics, one commenter notes that sonoluminescence from a collapsing cavitation bubble would need an emitter over 5,000 Kelvin -- hotter than the sun's surface -- to be purely thermal, yet the resulting flash is dim, invisible to the naked eye, and likely just a shockwave byproduct.

What commenters described: the mantis shrimp, has been discovered to contain species whose club-like forelimbs can strike so quickly and with such force as to induce sonoluminescent cavitation bubbles upon impact.

Limit: It is most likely a byproduct of the shock wave with no biological significance.

Adult male platypuses have venom-delivering spurs on the hind ankles connected to venom glands; handling wild platypuses should be left to trained professionals.
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What the pattern means: Framed as practical advice rather than trivia, the supporting comment specifies exactly where a platypus's venom sits — spurs on each rear foot — precisely the detail someone would need before ever considering picking one up.

What commenters described: the venom is located in spurs at each rear foot.

Greenland sharks can live for centuries
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What the pattern means: Once the centuries-long lifespan is stated, replies stop debating the science and start racing to one-up each other with historical comparisons -- the shark predates Saturn's rings, the Reich, and half of pop culture.

What commenters described: Sharks are older than the rings of Saturn

Limit: One reply notes the sharks are often blind, their eyes clouded by parasites.

Small animals can process visual change at higher temporal resolution
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What the pattern means: Commenters reach for everyday analogies -- a dog's homecoming greeting, a fly dodging a swat, a hummingbird's blur -- to make sense of variable time perception, while several ask outright how anyone measured it.

What commenters described: I think of it like your brain normally records at, say, 120 fps, and in these heightened states, it ramps up significantly

Limit: More than one reply asks how scientists actually arrived at this conclusion, without getting an answer in the thread.

Bear-encounter response should follow the animal’s behavior and the situation, not a three-color slogan
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What the pattern means: Long personal accounts from people who grew up around bears turn the tidy color mnemonic into something messier: which species charges for real, which one bluffs, and which color you can't even tell apart mid-encounter.

What commenters described: Black fight back, Brown lay down, White good night.

Limit: One commenter points out it's hard to tell a black bear from a brown one when it's sprinting at you, undercutting the mnemonic's premise.

Ophiocordyceps fungi manipulate insect behavior
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What the pattern means: Nostalgia dominates this one -- someone recalls a parent explaining the parasite in childhood -- but the top reply also gently corrects the example itself, since the snail-zombifying organism described is a flatworm, not a fungus.

What commenters described: My dad told me about this one when I was a small child <3 very fond of this parasite.

Limit: A detailed correction notes the classic snail example is Leucochloridium paradoxum, a parasite, not a fungus.

Humans uniquely combine routine high-speed projectile throwing with high accuracy, but other animals can throw or aim objects
8 source records

What the pattern means: Self-deprecating jokes about bad aim sit alongside a real counterexample: apes reportedly train themselves to throw rocks at predators and visitors, which chips away at the claim of throwing as uniquely human.

What commenters described: We can throw a rock at your skull at 100mph with amazing accuracy.

Limit: A reply notes apes do train throwing rocks at trees, predators, and visitors, complicating the uniqueness claim.

Seaweeds are a polyphyletic ecological grouping spanning red, green, and brown algal lineages; Protista is not a single modern clade and not all plant-like algae belong to Archaeplastida
8 source records

What the pattern means: A genuinely technical back-and-forth unfolds as commenters trade corrections on Archaeplastida, Charophyta, and Streptophyta, each one refining the last person's taxonomy rather than repeating the same claim.

What commenters described: I lovingly refer to the protist kingdom as the 'bargain bin.' Organisms in there are so weird, they fit nowhere else in the tree of life.

Limit: Commenters disagree over whether multicellular seaweeds even belong in Protista at all, since that kingdom has since been split apart.

The idea that Carboniferous coal accumulated because fungi had not evolved lignin decay is not supported by modern comparative evidence
8 source records

What the pattern means: The thread repeats the familiar 'trees just piled up' coal story, but one reply corrects the timescale dramatically, putting the lignin-to-microbe gap at tens of millions of years rather than the 400,000 years first proposed.

What commenters described: The time gap is likely 50-100 million years... whereas lignin producing plants first appeared 350-400 million years ago.

Limit: Commenters can't agree on the actual size of the gap, off by two orders of magnitude between the first and corrected estimate.

Humans have unusual endurance-running adaptations, and persistence hunting is documented, but humans are not universally the best endurance animal
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What the pattern means: A documentary-sourced account of tribesmen jogging a gazelle to exhaustion anchors the human-endurance claim, until a reply points out a conditioned horse can cover two to four marathons a day and would eventually pull ahead.

What commenters described: They just jog along behind it, the gazelle keeps sprinting off... eventually it just lays down too exhausted to run.

Limit: A conditioned horse can do the equivalent of two to four marathons per day, eventually building a lead over even a fit human.

Octopuses have three hearts, hemocyanin-based blue blood, and large distributed neural systems, but they are ordinary Earth-evolved molluscs—not aliens
7 source records

What the pattern means: Genuine anatomy gets tangled up with speculation here -- three hearts and blue blood are treated as evidence for extraterrestrial origin, complete with an unsourced claim about 'quad helix DNA.'

What commenters described: The fact that octopuses have three hearts and blue blood just makes them sound like aliens in disguise

Limit: Claims like 'quad helix DNA' and a comet-borne origin go well beyond anything the actual anatomy establishes.

Chilling and carbon dioxide can immobilize insects but may alter behavior, so the ant study's actual handling and recovery controls matter; chloroform cannot be assumed
6 source records

What the pattern means: Readers immediately question the study's methodology rather than the result, worrying that whatever knocked the ants out -- cold, CO2, or chloroform -- might itself be what altered their walking behavior.

What commenters described: Turns out, cold ants just walk more to warm up. Stilts not related to ant distance travelled

Limit: No one in the thread is sure whether chilling, CO2, or chloroform was actually used, and each has different known effects on ant behavior.

Ginkgo is an ancient wind-pollinated gymnosperm lineage, but it is not wind-pollinated simply because it predates bees
6 source records

What the pattern means: A reply flatly rejects the tidy 'ginkgo predates bees' causal story, pointing out that grasses and oaks are wind-pollinated too despite evolving long after insect pollination existed.

What commenters described: Grasses and oaks are younger than insect pollination, and they are mostly wind pollinated.

Ophiocordyceps fungi infect ants and manipulate movement and biting before producing a spore-releasing stalk
6 source records

What the pattern means: Commenters keep reaching for 'mind control' language, but the more precise reply clarifies the fungus is really weaving its hyphae through the ant's muscles rather than commandeering its brain directly.

What commenters described: It weaves its hyphae into the muscles of the host

Limit: The popular 'zombie' framing implies brain hijacking, when the mechanism described here is muscular rather than neural.

Anaerobic microbes inhabit animal guts, but they did not engineer humans as refuges and evidence does not show that most food cravings are microbial orders
5 source records

What the pattern means: Half-joking evolutionary framing treats gut microbes as having deliberately engineered humans as shelter, while one reply pushes back with the more mundane sequence of prokaryotes evolving oxygen tolerance long before animals existed.

What commenters described: Fun fact those gut microbes are where most of your cravings come from, it's them putting in an order for food

Plant sensing and chemical signaling do not demonstrate conscious pain, emotions, intelligence, or a scream comparable to animal suffering
5 source records

What the pattern means: The 'plants scream too' argument gets deployed here specifically to needle vegans, with one reply literally reframing the smell of cut grass as the scream itself.

What commenters described: Technically the smell of crushed plants IS the scream.

Limit: Nothing in the thread distinguishes chemical signaling from actual felt pain; the 'scream' framing stays rhetorical rather than evidentiary.

Male Virginia opossums have one bifid penis and females have a duplex reproductive tract with paired lateral vaginal canals—not literally two separate penises and two ordinary vaginas in each animal
4 source records

What the pattern means: Replies converge on a single grammatical fix: it should read 'two penises or two vaginas,' since no individual opossum actually carries both anatomies at once.

What commenters described: Opossums have two penises *or* two vaginas

Limit: Even the corrected version simplifies real anatomy: males have one bifid (forked) penis, and females have a duplex tract with paired canals, not simply doubled organs.

Several animals use accurately directed sprays, jets, dropped objects, or thrown material; sperm-whale prey stunning is unproven
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What the pattern means: Three genuinely different projectile mechanisms get cataloged in one reply -- bombardier beetle chemistry, archerfish water jets, antlions flicking sand -- while the sperm-whale sonic-stun claim tacked onto the original post goes unconfirmed.

What commenters described: Antlions... flick sand to make ants fall into their pits when they're trying to get out of them.

Limit: The claim that sperm whales stun fish with sonic blasts is repeated without anyone actually confirming it.

The specific story that blended invasive fish doubled egg mortality to 80% could not be tied to an identifiable primary study and should not be repeated as fact
4 source records

What the pattern means: Nobody in the thread can pin down why blending invasive fish and dumping them on eggs supposedly doubled mortality to 80 percent -- not even the original poster offers a mechanism, just a guess about oxygen depletion.

What commenters described: This resulted in 80% mortality rate; compared to chemical and electric methods which resulted in about 40% kill rate.

Limit: Even the reply defending the method admits nobody explained why it worked, guessing it was bacterial oxygen depletion rather than direct predation.

Bacterial cells are roughly comparable in number to human cells and may be slightly more numerous in a reference adult, but they are not foreign in the sense of being unrelated to the body
4 source records

What the pattern means: Each reply restates the 'you're mostly bacteria' claim in a slightly different register, from clinical cell counts to unsettled talk of 'foreign biota,' without anyone questioning how the ratio was actually calculated.

What commenters described: your body contains more bacterial cells than human cells at some stage of life

Mycorrhizal fungi connect roots and can move carbon, nutrients, water, and signals, but popular 'wood wide web' claims of trees intentionally supporting dying neighbors exceed current field evidence
4 source records

What the pattern means: The 'wood wide web' framing of trees deliberately feeding dying neighbors gets challenged in-thread by a linked rebuttal arguing the whole popular narrative oversold what the underlying field studies actually show.

What commenters described: They can actually support struggling or dying trees nearby. It completely changes how you think about walking through a forest.

Limit: A linked rebuttal titled 'The Wood Wide Web was the Biggest Scandal in Science' argues the intentional-support premise isn't well supported.

Human facial skin hosts diverse microbes and commonly Demodex mites, but densities vary greatly and there are not reliably one or two mites in every pore
3 source records

What the pattern means: The eyelash and pore mite facts escalate into a half-joking horror reveal -- 'you have face spiders' -- built on a density estimate of one or two mites per pore that isn't hedged anywhere in the thread.

What commenters described: Which are related to spiders. You have face spiders.

Limit: The 'one to two mites per pore' figure is stated as a flat average, though real density is known to vary a great deal person to person.

Face washing changes surface oils and microbes transiently, but the claim that all removed bugs and bacteria are replaced in exactly two hours is unsupported
3 source records

What the pattern means: The exact 'two hours to repopulate' figure gets stated flatly and then just marveled at, with nobody in this short exchange asking where the number comes from.

What commenters described: All the bacteria and bugs you get rid of are replaced in about two hours

Limit: The two-hour repopulation figure is asserted without any source offered in the exchange itself.

Oxygenated perfluorocarbon liquids can support gas exchange in animals and have been studied for partial liquid ventilation, but full liquid breathing is not an established human treatment
3 source records

What the pattern means: Rather than the mechanism, commenters fixate on how the experience of breathing liquid would actually feel, landing somewhere between overwhelming and indistinguishable from drowning.

What commenters described: i heard it feels like drowning

Limit: Both replies imagine the sensation as closer to drowning than to normal breathing, undercutting any suggestion this could feel comfortable.

Octopuses have a central brain plus extensive arm nervous systems and males use a specialized mating arm; they do not have eleven independent brains or an arm that is literally a penis
3 source records

What the pattern means: The claim balloons into 'eleven independent brains' and a mating arm described as literally 'its penis,' compressing a real distributed nervous system and specialized reproductive arm into cruder shorthand.

What commenters described: they can use stem cells to regenerate lost limbs

Limit: Calling one arm the octopus's 'penis' and giving it its own 'brain' overstates a specialized mating structure as a fully autonomous organ.

Microbes can turn carbon dioxide, hydrogen and other inputs into protein-rich biomass; commercial scale and environmental benefit depend on the energy system
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What the pattern means: A reply reframes 'food from air' as nothing new at all, pointing out plants already build 95 percent of their dry mass from atmospheric CO2 -- the startups are just automating what photosynthesis already does.

What commenters described: Plants get 95% of their dry mass from the air, by absorbing CO2 then using it.

Limit: The process still depends on a microbe starter culture and isn't yet commercially viable at meaningful scale.

Ocean microbes produce roughly half of Earth's gross oxygen, and Prochlorococcus is important, but ocean respiration consumes much of that production and a near-term atmospheric suffocation forecast is unsupported
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What the pattern means: One long reply escalates a real fact about ocean-microbe oxygen production into a full extinction timeline, projecting cognitive impairment within decades from warming-driven Prochlorococcus die-off.

What commenters described: Phytoplankton in the oceans produce waaaaaay more of our oxygen than trees or other terrestrial plants.

Limit: The specific extinction-level timeline -- mass oxygen collapse and cognitive impairment within decades -- goes well beyond the underlying oxygen-production fact.

Mirror bacteria have not been created; scientists are warning prospectively about severe risks if self-replicating mirror life becomes feasible
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What the pattern means: The three replies here barely elaborate beyond naming the concept, but the anxiety in them is about a hypothetical future risk, not anything that has actually been synthesized yet.

What commenters described: The idea that we already have the tech to create this, plus the potential damage this can cause makes me genuinely anxious.

Limit: No mirror organism has actually been built; the concern here is entirely about what could happen if one were.

Sharks continually replace teeth, but urine-grown replacement teeth for humans are not an established treatment
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What the pattern means: All three replies just restate the shark-urine tooth claim in slightly different words, without a single one explaining the mechanism or citing where it came from.

What commenters described: New human teeth from Shark Urine and other stuff

Limit: None of the three replies offers any mechanism or source for how urine would be involved in growing replacement teeth.

Sharks and other animals have been observed inside the active submarine volcano Kavachi
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What the pattern means: The thread reads like people rediscovering a pandemic-era news story together, with one reply supplying the basic who/what/where after another asks what Kavachi even is.

What commenters described: Sharks that were discovered swimming around in the acidic waters of an underwater volcano. Happened during covid

Recent estimates put wild finfish caught annually at about 1.1–2.2 trillion and farmed finfish killed for food at roughly 78–171 billion; air asphyxia is common and can cause prolonged severe welfare harm
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What the pattern means: A personal asthma-attack comparison turns an abstract mortality statistic into something visceral, with the commenter mapping their own worst breathing experience onto trillions of fish dying the same way.

What commenters described: I've had asthma attacks before and they were the most horrific experiences of my life. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

Merriam-Webster records octopuses, octopi, and octopodes as plurals of octopus.
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What the pattern means: The exchange settles the octopus-plural question and then tosses in an unrelated bonus: uterus also has two accepted plurals, a fact that clearly delighted the commenter more than the octopus answer did.

What commenters described: Also fun fact: the plural of uterus is uteri or uteruses. Both are correct.

The familiar cap-and-stem mushroom is a spore-producing fruiting body, not the whole fungus and not accurately a penis analogue
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What the pattern means: Two replies land on the same reframing independently: the part of a mushroom people eat is its spore-producing structure, which makes the crude genital joke almost accidentally accurate.

What commenters described: Those little fin looking things under the cap produce spores which become more fungus.

A bacterium capable of degrading and assimilating PET has been isolated, but known strains do not make plastic pollution disappear quickly
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What the pattern means: The hopeful framing of plastic-eating microbes runs straight into a correction: existing strains only chew through small amounts of specific plastics, nowhere near fast enough to matter for pollution at scale.

What commenters described: I've often thought that EVENTUALLY microbes will evolve to consume plastic. There is a lot of energy holding that material together.

Limit: Known strains 'can only consume small amounts of specific plastic over time,' far short of solving plastic pollution.

A roughly 1:1 bacterial-to-human cell ratio is the current order-of-magnitude estimate, with substantial individual and methodological variation.
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What the pattern means: Both replies revise the old 10:1 bacteria-to-human ratio down to roughly even, while acknowledging in the same breath that this is a genuinely hard number to pin down precisely.

What commenters described: The 10:1 ratio has been revised and the current estimate is about 1:1.

Limit: Both commenters flag that this is a difficult number to determine precisely, not a settled figure.

Gympie-gympie plants bear silica-based stinging hairs that deliver persistent pain-producing peptides called gympietides
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What the pattern means: The plant's silica hairs and lasting pain get compressed into vivid but imprecise shorthand -- 'glass hypodermic needles' injecting 'neurotoxin' -- when the actual mechanism is a specific class of pain-producing peptides.

What commenters described: There's an Australian plant that grows glass hypodermic needles on its leaves that inject neurotoxin.

Limit: Calling the compound a 'neurotoxin' blurs past the specific pain-producing peptides (gympietides) that researchers actually identified.

Mammalian body temperature restricts many fungi, while thermotolerant pathogens remain a concern
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What the pattern means: The reassuring 'our body heat keeps fungi out' explanation gets a quiet asterisk added here: at least one reply notes some fungi are adapting toward greater heat tolerance.

What commenters described: The very few fungi that can make it to the inside of the body are incredibly hard to treat and often very serious conditions.

Limit: One reply warns that fungi are 'starting to get more heat resistant,' suggesting the protective temperature margin isn't fixed.

Microbial cells are roughly comparable in number to human cells, but microbes contribute only a small fraction of body mass—not half a person's scale weight
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What the pattern means: A common mix-up gets corrected cleanly in this exchange: whatever fraction of your cells are microbial, they barely register on a bathroom scale because microbial cells are so much smaller than human ones.

What commenters described: far less than half the mass

Water-induced finger wrinkling is nerve-controlled and can improve wet-object handling in some experiments, but its adaptive history is not proved
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What the pattern means: The evolutionary story here gets told with maximum drama -- generations 'mauled by animals' and lost to slippery objects -- down to the oddly specific image of someone losing their grip on a watermelon.

What commenters described: Countless motherfuckers getting mauled by animals, falling off cliffs, trying to hold on to a watermelon.

Animals evolved before terrestrial plants; complex marine animal ecosystems already existed when the earliest land plants appeared
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What the pattern means: A one-line correction to a common assumption prompts a genuine follow-up question about what the land itself would even have looked like before plants existed.

What commenters described: Land plants appeared around 470 million years ago and the oceans were full of marine animals by then

NOAA concluded that the Bloop was consistent with a large Antarctic icequake, not an unknown animal
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What the pattern means: This exchange is almost too brief to call a discussion -- a bare mention of 'the bloop' answered by someone correctly recalling that it turned out to be an icequake.

What commenters described: Didnt it turn out to be an ice quake?

Greenland sharks can live for centuries; radiocarbon dating estimated the largest sampled animal at 392 Âą 120 years.
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What the pattern means: This is the shortest possible version of the longevity fact, just a plain restatement with a one-word reaction: wild.

What commenters described: Yeah Greenland sharks can live several hundred years. It's wild.

Female Greenland sharks reach sexual maturity extraordinarily late, with estimates around 134–156 years depending on the model and data.
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What the pattern means: The reply pairs two extraordinary numbers together without blinking -- sexual maturity around 150 years old, and a pregnancy that might last close to two decades.

What commenters described: They reach sexual maturity around 150 years of age and their pups are born alive after an estimated gestation period of 8 to 18 years

Greenland sharks are live-bearing, but gestation duration remains unknown; 8–18 years is a model estimate with questionable inputs, not an established range.
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What the pattern means: The same maturity-and-gestation comment resurfaces here to anchor a different point: an 8-to-18-year pregnancy estimate for a species that's still poorly understood in nearly every other respect.

What commenters described: their pups are born alive after an estimated gestation period of 8 to 18 years

Bacterial cells are similar in number to human cells in a reference adult but contribute only a small fraction of total body mass because they are much smaller.
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What the pattern means: One reply resolves the 'half your cells are foreign' unease with a simple size argument: bacterial cells are numerous but tiny, so they barely contribute to actual body mass.

What commenters described: the 'foreign' cells have much less mass than your body's cells, so they only make up a very small proportion of your total body mass

Platypus hairs contain hollow, spherical melanosomes—the first such morphology reported in a mammal.
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What the pattern means: A commenter cites a specific 2020 Biology Letters finding about platypus fur containing hollow, spherical pigment structures never before documented in any mammal.

What commenters described: platypus fur contains unique hollow, spherical melanosomes -- pigment structures -- a feature never before seen in mammals and previously known only in bird feathers

Ophiocordyceps can manipulate ant behavior while fungal cells invade and surround muscles throughout the body yet leave the brain physically intact; this supports peripheral control, but “controls the body more than the brain” remains an imprecise shorthand because neural and secreted-effect mechanisms are still studied.
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What the pattern means: This reply corrects the parasite mix-up raised earlier in the thread and adds a real anatomical nuance: the fungus is described as controlling the ant's body more directly than its brain.

What commenters described: they actually control the body of the host more than the brain

For octopus, “octopuses,” “octopi,” and “octopodes” are all recorded English plurals; therefore declaring octopi simply incorrect is prescriptively overstated despite its mistaken Latinizing origin.
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What the pattern means: A tangential grammar lesson on platypus plurals doubles as an etymology lecture, tracing 'octopi' back to a mistaken Latin pluralization of a Greek-derived word.

What commenters described: Platypi is incorrect, and for the same reason 'octopi' is also incorrect.

Limit: The commenter's own logic still leaves 'octopuses,' 'octopi,' and 'octopodes' all in circulated use, even while calling one of them wrong.

Greenland sharks are very slow swimmers and reach lengths around 4–5 metres.
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What the pattern means: A vivid, almost horror-movie description opens by noting the shark's actual size and speed -- fifteen feet long and barely moving -- before escalating into far more dramatic claims.

What commenters described: It moves so slowly it's practically stationary

Limit: The same comment folds in several much less certain claims -- a precise heartbeat, a hunting style, a fixed age -- alongside the size and speed detail.

Greenland-shark cardiac tissue suggests maximum heart rates around 12–20 beats per minute; “one beat every 12 seconds” is not a universal measured rate.
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What the pattern means: The 'one heartbeat every twelve seconds' detail from that same dramatic comment reads like a precise measurement, though it's presented without any qualifying range.

What commenters described: its heart only beating once every 12 seconds

Limit: The figure is stated as a fixed rate rather than a range, though cardiac studies on the species suggest more variability.

Seals occur in Greenland-shark diets, and predation on sleeping seals has been proposed, but the reply’s certain “sleep assassin” narrative exceeds the evidence.
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What the pattern means: The 'sleep assassin' image -- a shark drifting up on sleeping seals -- is the most narratively confident claim in the whole comment, stated with total certainty rather than as a proposed explanation.

What commenters described: gliding toward seals while they sleep and swallowing them before they even wake up

Limit: The predation account is delivered as settled fact rather than as one proposed explanation among others.

The copepod Ommatokoita elongata commonly attaches to Greenland-shark corneas and can cause severe tissue damage and impaired vision; it does not literally eat the entire eyeball.
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What the pattern means: The same comment's eyeball detail turns a real parasite into something closer to body horror, describing corneal copepods as though they consume the entire eye rather than damaging it.

What commenters described: blinded by parasites that eat their eyeballs and hang from the sockets like wriggling, milky tassels

Limit: The parasite damages and clouds the cornea rather than literally consuming the whole eyeball, as the phrasing implies.

Juvenile platypuses develop molars that are shed and replaced by keratinized pads in adults.
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What the pattern means: Buried in a long list of platypus oddities is a specific developmental detail: juveniles actually have molars, which then disappear and get replaced by keratinized pads in adulthood.

What commenters described: they don't have teeth as adult but sort of as kids

Platypuses have a cloaca, a shared opening for urinary, digestive, and reproductive tracts.
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What the pattern means: The same sprawling platypus list treats the cloaca almost as an afterthought among stranger facts, when it's actually one of the clearer, best-documented traits shared with birds and reptiles.

What commenters described: have a cloaca like birds and reptiles

The bundled claim about penile spines was not verified in the reviewed authoritative sources and should not appear as a settled fact.
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What the pattern means: Tucked at the end of that platypus list is a claim -- penile spines -- that gets no further elaboration or citation anywhere in the thread, unlike the better-documented traits around it.

What commenters described: spines on their penis

Limit: Unlike the cloaca or molar facts nearby, the penile-spine claim isn't elaborated on or sourced anywhere in the comment.

NOAA concluded the 1997 'Bloop' matched icequake sounds from large Antarctic icebergs, not an unknown giant animal
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What the pattern means: The commenter accepts the icequake explanation for the Bloop but frames it almost reluctantly, as though disappointed the ocean turned out not to be hiding a kaiju after all.

What commenters described: The Bloop, a massive sound in the deep ocean, was explained by a glacier cracking. Not a kaiju.

Platypus fur biofluoresces blue-green/cyan under ultraviolet light; the 2020 report described this as the first observation in a monotreme.
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What the pattern means: The biofluorescence detail gets framed here as a genuine mammalian first, with the commenter noting how much more common this trait is in fish, amphibians, birds, and reptiles than in mammals.

What commenters described: this is the first evidence of biofluorescence in egg-laying mammals, also known as monotremes, scientists reported in a new study

The fungal cultivars of higher attine ants, including Atta leaf-cutters, are domesticated obligate symbionts that are no longer capable of living independently of their ant hosts.
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What the pattern means: The ant-fungus relationship gets described here as domestication running in an unexpected direction -- the fungus crop has lost the ability to survive without its ant farmers.

What commenters described: the fungus they farm can no longer survive without their assistance. This means they successfully domesticated their crop.

Leaf-cutter ants use specialized waste workers, isolate refuse from gardens, groom, and deploy antimicrobial defenses that reduce risks from Escovopsis and other pathogens.
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What the pattern means: This reply goes further into the ants' side of the bargain, noting they've lost the ability to synthesize several amino acids themselves and rely entirely on the fungus to supply them.

What commenters described: they literally can't produce several amino acids key to all life anymore, because they get it all from the fungus

Both uteri and uteruses are accepted plurals of uterus.
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What the pattern means: Buried inside an octopus-plural answer is a completely unrelated but equally satisfying grammar fact: uterus has two acceptable plural forms, and neither one is wrong.

What commenters described: the plural of uterus is uteri or uteruses. Both are correct

Octopuses have two branchial hearts, one systemic heart, and copper-based hemocyanin; systemic cardiac output falls sharply during jet swimming, helping make sustained swimming costly
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What the pattern means: This comment goes further than the usual three-hearts trivia by explaining why octopuses avoid swimming: the systemic heart stops beating mid-jet, which is described as making sustained swimming exhausting rather than efficient.

What commenters described: the main heart actually stops beating when they swim, which is why octopuses prefer crawling over swimming because it exhausts them so quickly

The higher-attine ant–fungus association is mutually beneficial and obligate for both partners; whether obligate mutualisms are “quite rare” depends on the comparison group and is not quantified here.
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What the pattern means: A reply reframes the ant-fungus story as mutual domestication rather than one-sided control, while noting almost as an aside that fully obligate mutualisms like this one are actually uncommon in nature.

What commenters described: It's a mutually beneficial, obligate symbiotic relationship, which is actually quite rare in nature.

Limit: The claim that such obligate mutualisms are 'quite rare' isn't quantified or compared against any specific baseline in the reply.

Flies and many other small, high-metabolism animals can have higher visual temporal resolution than humans, but this is not literally a demonstrated subjective slowing of all time.
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What the pattern means: One commenter tries to reason through fly perception from the fly's own point of view, proposing that flies register humans as having 'always been there' if we move slowly enough to avoid tripping their fast reflexes.

What commenters described: if we move even slower when getting close to them they just assume we've always been there and the zap

Plants sense vibration and alter responses with experience, but viral claims that they hear plumbing, learn Pavlovian associations, and remember for weeks remain mixed or unreplicated
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What the pattern means: Three separate plant-cognition claims get bundled into one long post -- roots listening for buried water, pea plants conditioned Pavlov-style, a sensitive plant that stops reacting to a harmless drop -- each hedged with 'best theory' or 'still debated' rather than stated as settled.

What commenters described: The roots grew toward the sound... a tree in your yard may literally be listening for plumbing.

Limit: The post itself repeatedly flags these as debated or unreplicated results rather than settled findings, even while describing them vividly.

The old claim that bacterial cells outnumber human cells 10:1 is outdated; revised estimates for a reference adult male are about 3.8×10^13 bacterial cells and 3.0×10^13 human cells.
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What the pattern means: This reply confidently restates the outdated 10:1 bacteria-to-human ratio as current fact, exactly the figure that more recent estimates elsewhere in this dataset revise down toward roughly even.

What commenters described: bacterial cells outnumber human cells by about 10:1

Limit: This 10:1 figure is the older estimate; more recent counts elsewhere put the ratio much closer to 1:1.

There is no credible evidence that mushrooms are more sentient than molluscs; fungal signaling and adaptive growth do not establish subjective experience
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What the pattern means: A half-remembered Peter Singer argument gets cited to suggest fungi might rank as more sentient than shellfish, treated here more as a striking thought experiment than a settled ethical claim.

What commenters described: Wild to think of mushrooms as being more "sentient" than shellfish.

Limit: The commenter flags they might be misremembering the argument, and no evidence for fungal subjective experience is actually offered.

Light sensing and solar tracking do not establish that all trees form images, see people, or experience vision as animals do; “all trees have eyes” is anthropomorphic overstatement.
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What the pattern means: Real phototropism -- leaves and sunflowers turning toward light -- gets stretched here into a claim that trees 'have eyes' and can watch people as passing shadows.

What commenters described: Some plants (like sunflowers) turn to face the sun as it moves across the sky.

Limit: Light sensing and phototropism aren't the same as vision; the leap to trees 'seeing' people as shadows is the commenter's own extrapolation.

Plants use photoreceptors and signaling pathways for phototropism and other light-directed responses.
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What the pattern means: Underneath the 'trees have eyes' hook is a more modest and accurate mechanism: photoreceptors and signaling pathways that drive light-directed growth, no imagery involved.

What commenters described: Their leaves turn and grow towards the sun - so they must have light sensing.

Researchers have used blood-sucking reduviid bugs as minimally invasive samplers for small or hard-to-bleed animals; the quoted bat procedure is plausible but not independently identified
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What the pattern means: A researcher's own account describes an oddly gruesome workaround for drawing blood from animals too small for a syringe: letting a blood-sucking bug feed, then decapitating it to squeeze the sample out.

What commenters described: we cut off its head and squeezed out the blood to get a blood sample

Limit: The bat-specific version of this procedure is plausible but isn't independently confirmed beyond this single secondhand account.

A small study reported Boquila changes near artificial plastic leaves, but that result is evidence offered for a hypothesis, not proof that the vine literally sees shapes and colors.
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What the pattern means: The Boquila vine's leaf-mimicry gets explained through a specific proposed mechanism -- microscopic lens-like 'ocelli' on the leaf surface -- stated here with more confidence than the underlying research actually supports.

What commenters described: they aren't just reacting to chemicals; they are literally "seeing" the shapes and colors around them

Limit: The ocelli mechanism is described as a leading theory in the original research, not a demonstrated fact, despite the confident phrasing here.

Swordfish use a specialized heater organ to warm the eyes and brain; experiments found warming can raise retinal flicker-fusion frequency from about 5 Hz at 10°C to over 40 Hz at 20°C.
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What the pattern means: Swordfish get credited with 'overclocking their eyes,' a gamer-friendly way of describing a real heater organ that raises retinal flicker-fusion frequency well above what cold water alone would allow.

What commenters described: Swordfish can overclock their eyes to perceive more frames per minute.

The warm retina can provide more than tenfold better temporal resolution than an eye at ambient cold-water temperature, but the claim that swordfish prey universally see at 3–6 frames per second is not established by that study.
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What the pattern means: The same swordfish comment pushes the framing further with a specific prey frame-rate -- three to six frames per second -- that reads as a precise number but isn't something the underlying study actually measured in prey.

What commenters described: Their prey views life at 3 to 6 frames per second.

Limit: The prey's exact frame rate is presented as measured fact, though the source study establishes the swordfish's own retinal advantage, not a confirmed number for prey perception.

Much mature wood is dead support tissue, while living cambium, phloem, buds, roots, and sapwood cells sustain a tree; girdling kills by interrupting phloem transport
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What the pattern means: The 'trees are dead inside' framing describes real biology -- most mature wood is non-living support tissue -- but tacks on an odd afterthought about photosynthesis oxidizing water rather than carbon dioxide that muddies an otherwise clean explanation.

What commenters described: If you peeled a ring around the tree at the base of it, the tree above that ring would be dead since it doesn't have any connection to its roots anymore.

Limit: The commenter's own added detail about photosynthesis splitting water rather than CO2 is offered with visible uncertainty ('I believe... but am unsure').

Clownfish are protandrous sequential hermaphrodites: juveniles mature as males, and the dominant breeding male can become female when the female disappears
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What the pattern means: The framing here leans into a provocative headline -- 'every female clownfish is transgender' -- layered over an accurate description of protandrous sequential hermaphroditism triggered specifically by the loss of the breeding female.

What commenters described: they're all born as sexually immature males who have both sets of reproductive organs. one of them develops into a female for breeding purposes

Estimated bacterial wet mass in a reference adult is about 0.2 kg, corresponding roughly to a few tenths of a litre—not a two-litre bottle.
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What the pattern means: A separate reply tries to visualize that bacterial mass physically, recalling it as filling something like a two-liter bottle, though they flag their own memory of the figure as possibly off.

What commenters described: I think that it was a two liter bottle they would fill if you could drain all the other cells off a person.

Limit: The commenter admits they 'could be off' on the two-liter comparison; other estimates put the wet mass closer to a few tenths of a litre.

Great Basin bristlecone pines can exceed 4,000 years, and giant sequoias can exceed 3,000 years; the stated ranges are broadly correct.
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What the pattern means: Tree longevity gets a quick, uncontested numeric anchor here -- bristlecone pines past 4,000 years, sequoias in the thousands -- offered as a simple point of comparison rather than a debated claim.

What commenters described: Bristlecone pine trees can get over 4000 years old. Sequoia trees 2000-3000.

The artificial-leaf Boquila report was a small preliminary experiment, and its own paper presents plant vision as a plausible hypothesis rather than a demonstrated mechanism.
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What the pattern means: A detailed methodological critique picks apart the Boquila mimicry study itself, noting the artificial-leaf imitation was visibly lower quality than live-plant mimicry and questioning the choice of control leaves.

What commenters described: You can see the comparison in figures 3 and 4... The mimic leaf doesn't seem to have the same shape, color, or vein structure as the artificial leaf.

Limit: The reply flags the study's control method as suspect, using leaves from the same plant as comparison rather than an independent control.

A 2020 report found platypus fur absorbs ultraviolet light and fluoresces green or cyan with a peak near 500 nm; describing the animal as alien is rhetorical.
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What the pattern means: This reply treats the 2020 biofluorescence report as the capstone of an already strange animal, framing the UV glow as the final piece of evidence for calling the platypus 'alien' -- clearly meant rhetorically rather than literally.

What commenters described: their fur absorbs UV light and then re-emits the light as part of the visible spectrum, making them appear to glow a bright blue/green hue

Western fence lizards are incompetent Lyme reservoirs and can clear Borrelia from feeding ticks, but a less-than-2-percent tick infection rate is not a universal California figure
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What the pattern means: The lizard's Lyme-neutralizing antibody gets presented as a specific California statistic, with tick infection rates below 2 percent, though the comment doesn't say whether that figure holds anywhere the lizard doesn't range.

What commenters described: ticks in California where the Western Fence Lizard exists have a less than 2% incidence rate of carrying Lyme Disease

Limit: The under-2-percent figure is tied specifically to areas where the lizard is present, not stated as a statewide or universal California rate.

Current dictionaries recognize octopuses, octopi, and octopodes—not singular octopus and octopod as the three plural forms listed in the reply.
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What the pattern means: This reply's list of three accepted plurals doesn't quite match the dictionary consensus elsewhere in the thread, swapping in 'octopod' where other commenters cite 'octopodes.'

What commenters described: the plural of octopus can be one of three words Octopus Octopod Octopi

Limit: The three forms listed here (octopus, octopod, octopi) diverge from what other commenters and dictionaries actually record (octopuses, octopi, octopodes).

Greenland shark longevity was estimated by radiocarbon dating proteins in eye-lens nuclei formed early in life; 28 female specimens supported a lifespan of at least 272 years.
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What the pattern means: The radiocarbon method itself gets explained here in more technical detail than elsewhere in the thread -- the eye lens forms early in life and locks in proteins whose carbon-14 decay can then be measured directly.

What commenters described: We then examine the lens nucleus from their eyes using radiocarbon dating. The lens forms at an early date and contains proteins which are retained afterwards.

The broader point that English usage can conventionalize historically irregular forms is supported by the accepted history of octopi.
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What the pattern means: The same commenter who listed three plural forms adds a broader linguistic point: English happily lets popular usage override historically 'correct' grammar, which is exactly how 'octopi' caught on despite its shaky etymology.

What commenters described: Sometimes the language changes to fit what people are already doing

The largest Greenland shark in the 2016 sample was estimated at 392 Âą 120 years, so popular claims of an exact birth year conceal a very wide uncertainty interval.
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What the pattern means: A reply invoking longevity researcher Steven Austad pushes back hard on treating the shark's estimated age as a precise number, stressing how much uncertainty non-destructive age-sampling methods carry across species.

What commenters described: there is extraordinarily high uncertainty in the lifespans of these sorts of organisms... The public, and popular science magazines, tend to gloss over the reality of non-destructive sampling.

Limit: The commenter argues popular science coverage routinely understates how uncertain these age estimates really are, even while the underlying longevity is real.

The sharks in the study were dead specimens, but saying researchers keep killing them for examination is misleading; specimens can come from fisheries bycatch.
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What the pattern means: A blunt line about 'we keep killing them' to study Greenland sharks gets nuanced in the same comment by explaining the actual radiocarbon method, though it never clarifies whether specimens come from targeted killing or fisheries bycatch.

What commenters described: We then examine the lens nucleus from their eyes using radiocarbon dating.

Limit: The comment doesn't specify whether sampled sharks are deliberately killed or come from bycatch, leaving the 'we keep killing them' framing unclear.

Chickens are extraordinarily numerous, but they do not clearly exceed half of all living birds
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What the pattern means: The commenter builds their own math to make the chicken-dominance claim more vivid, estimating it would take roughly twenty robins to match the weight of a single full-grown chicken.

What commenters described: Going by weight that percentage is even larger (I've seen 70-75%)... You need about 20 robins to weigh the same as one full-grown chicken.

Limit: The 70-75 percent by-weight figure is attributed to something the commenter recalls seeing, not a source cited in the comment itself.

The oldest dated non-clonal living trees exceed 4,800 years, much older than the roughly 392 Âą 120-year estimate for the largest Greenland shark sampled.
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What the pattern means: A reply gently corrects a common phrasing slip, pointing out that 'sharks are older than trees' really means the species predates trees, not that any individual living shark outlives the oldest living tree.

What commenters described: The oldest tree is much older than the oldest shark. What you mean is, 'sharks existed before trees.'

A global estimate placed ant biomass near 12 megatons of carbon, exceeding estimated wild-bird biomass and likely wild terrestrial-mammal biomass
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What the pattern means: A short, confident claim states total ant biomass exceeds that of wild mammals and birds combined, without elaborating on the roughly 12-megaton carbon figure behind it or how it was measured.

What commenters described: Biomas of all the ants in the world is bigger than wild mammals and birds.

Both ovaries and adrenal glands can produce androgens including testosterone in females, while testes are the major source in males; extending one formulation identically to every vertebrate is too broad.
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What the pattern means: A correction reply spreads testosterone production across both sexes rather than treating it as male-exclusive, noting ovaries and adrenal glands both contribute in females across several vertebrate groups.

What commenters described: in animals testosterone is produced in females by the ovaries and the adrenal glands, and by males in the testes and the adrenal glands

Limit: Applying this same hormone-source pattern identically across mammals, birds, fish, amphibians, and reptiles glosses over real physiological differences between those groups.

Bristlemouth fishes are plausible candidates for the most abundant vertebrates on Earth
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What the pattern means: A single population estimate anchors this claim, putting bristlemouth numbers at roughly a quadrillion individuals with no further discussion of how that figure was reached.

What commenters described: most abundant fish is believed to have about 1 quadrillion individuals

Leucochloridium flatworms form pulsating broodsacs in snail eyestalks and use birds to complete their life cycle
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What the pattern means: The description leans hard into body horror, calling the infected snail's pulsating eyestalks 'like a hallucination' while accurately capturing the parasite's actual reproductive strategy of getting itself eaten by a bird.

What commenters described: The parasite causes them to develop colorful flashing, television-like movements on their eye stalks to get birds to notice and eat them.

Modern humans are the only living animals with a prominent bony chin, or mental eminence, though many animals have soft-tissue jaw projections casually called chins
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What the pattern means: A short, confident claim about human uniqueness skips past an obvious caveat that other animals have their own soft-tissue jaw projections people casually call chins, even without the same bony structure.

What commenters described: Humans are the only animals with true chins

Limit: The claim focuses on the bony chin specifically; other animals have soft-tissue jaw projections that get casually called 'chins' without the same underlying structure.

The accepted sensory term is electroreception, especially for detecting weak biologically relevant electric fields; feeling a strong electric shock does not make “hyperelectroreception” the proper replacement term.
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What the pattern means: The same reply that corrected testosterone sourcing also proposes renaming electroreception to 'hyperelectroreception,' reasoning that ordinary animals can already feel strong shocks, so only weak-field detection deserves a special name.

What commenters described: what platypodes and some other animals have for sensing weak electrical fields should probably properly be called hyperelectroreception

Limit: The proposed renaming isn't how the sense is actually classified in the literature; electroreception remains the standard term for detecting weak fields.

Critical flicker-fusion frequency measures the fastest visual fluctuations an animal can distinguish and is used as a proxy for sensory temporal resolution; treating that proxy as proof that an animal subjectively experiences time itself faster is a stronger interpretation than the measurement alone establishes.
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What the pattern means: A skeptical reply questions the leap from measured flicker-fusion frequency to claims about subjective time perception, explicitly asking whether that equivalence was ever demonstrated or just assumed.

What commenters described: This is only talking about the frame rate of the eyes of different animals. And than they just assume that seeing frame rate is the same as perception of time.

Limit: The commenter directly flags that treating visual frame rate as equivalent to subjective time perception is an assumption, not something the measurement itself proves.

Fungi have diverse mating systems and nutritional strategies; they are not universally saprophytic, detritivorous, sexless, or limited to simple plus/minus mating types
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What the pattern means: Fungi get reduced here to a single simplified life strategy -- sexless, detritus-eating, plus-or-minus mating types only -- when the group actually spans far more varied nutritional and reproductive strategies.

What commenters described: There's no sexes either. Just + and - to denote that there's two organisms in close proximity to one another.

Limit: Describing all fungi as saprophytic with only plus/minus mating types ignores the much wider diversity of fungal nutrition and reproduction.

Michael Pollan described an unpublished root experiment and a researcher’s echolocation speculation; that is not equivalent to a confirmed plant sensory mechanism.
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What the pattern means: A half-remembered detail from a Michael Pollan piece gets floated as a real sensory mechanism -- plants echolocating toward resources using the sound of their own cellular division -- while the commenter isn't sure if it was confirmed research or someone else's speculation.

What commenters described: certain species of plants are able to grow towards resources by using the sound made by cellular division as a form of echolocation

Limit: The commenter admits they might be misremembering, and flags this as possibly 'someone else's theory' rather than a confirmed finding.

Sloths can swim and move faster in water than on the ground, though they are still slow animals
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What the pattern means: The contradiction gets stated almost as a punchline: an animal famous for being slow turns out to move noticeably faster once it's in water than it ever does on land.

What commenters described: Sloths can swim, and they are very fast in the water.

Some melanized fungi show enhanced metabolism or growth under ionizing radiation, but saying mushrooms 'eat radiation' or can digest almost anything after CRISPR is an overstatement
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What the pattern means: A real finding about melanized fungi tolerating radiation gets pushed into speculative territory here, with the commenter guessing CRISPR edits could let mushrooms 'eat just about anything' and name-dropping slime mold as an even weirder aside.

What commenters described: Mushrooms can even "eat" radiation. True fact.

Limit: The leap from radiation tolerance to CRISPR-enabled digestion of 'just about anything' is speculation the comment doesn't back with any source.

Cultivated meat is real animal tissue grown from cultured cells; U.S. regulators have completed safety consultations for specific chicken products
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What the pattern means: This entry is about as bare as a comment can get -- two words naming the concept, with no elaboration on the actual cell-culture process or its regulatory status.

What commenters described: Growing meat

Greenland sharks may live for centuries, but the 2016 study did not identify a particular shark proven to have outlived a sailor by 500 years; its oldest estimate was 392 years with a 272–512-year uncertainty interval.
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What the pattern means: The idea of one specific shark outliving a long-dead sailor by five centuries is described here as a genuinely novel form of dread, treating the study's oldest age estimate as a fixed number rather than the wide range it actually represents.

What commenters described: the thought of some particular sailor's nemesis shark outliving him by 500 years and still being out there just filled me with a particularly novel form of dread

Limit: The 2016 study's oldest estimate carries a roughly 240-year uncertainty range around it, so 'outliving him by 500 years' overstates a single point estimate as settled fact.

Human skin hosts bacteria, fungi, viruses and microscopic arthropods as a normal microbiome
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What the pattern means: A single short line treats the skin microbiome almost like a passing curiosity, naming the range of organisms involved without dwelling on any one of them.

What commenters described: our skin supports a whole microbiome of creatures

Octopuses have one systemic heart and two branchial hearts
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What the pattern means: This reply treats the three-heart fact as news even while restating it accurately, describing exactly which two hearts serve the gills and which one handles general circulation.

What commenters described: two pump blood to the gills and the third pumps blood to the rest of the body

Some climbing plants alter search and attachment movements in relation to nearby supports and support properties, but the categorical empty-room stick experiment is not established by this unsourced reply.
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What the pattern means: An oddly specific thought experiment describes a climbing plant reaching toward a stick placed nearby in an otherwise empty room, presented flatly as established behavior rather than as a hypothetical or sourced study.

What commenters described: it will start reaching for the specific direction where the stick is

Limit: The empty-room stick scenario is stated as fact without any source, though real climbing-plant research does show search behavior tied to nearby supports.

The largest Greenland shark in the radiocarbon study was estimated at 392 ± 120 years; 512 years was the upper end of a wide uncertainty interval, not a confirmed age, so “500+ years” overstates the result.
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What the pattern means: The reaction to '500+ years' takes the far end of a wide uncertainty range and treats it as the shark's confirmed age, missing that the study's actual point estimate was closer to 392 years.

What commenters described: that's incredible, to live 100 is already something but 500+ years??? Insane..

Limit: 512 years was the upper bound of an uncertainty interval around a 392-year estimate, not a confirmed age, so treating it as the shark's real age overstates the finding.

Black bears are capable climbers and swimmers, so a tree or water is not a general escape plan
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What the pattern means: Several commenters swap firsthand stories of watching black bears sprint up trees or gallop up brushy slopes faster than a fit human can run flat ground, using it to argue against treating a tree as a safe hiding spot.

What commenters described: black bears RUN up trees

Mantis shrimp strikes generate high acceleration and cavitation
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What the pattern means: The mantis shrimp punch draws pure astonishment, with commenters stacking bullet comparisons and sun-hot cavitation bubbles while trading video links and nicknames like 'thumb-splitter.'

What commenters described: That impossible punch similar to a .22 bullet, 1500+ newtons of force and the cavitation bubble that reaches tempreature hotter than the surface of sun.

Limit: Isn't the cavitation bubble a product of the pistol shrimp?

Some sea cucumbers defensively expel internal organs and later regenerate them
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What the pattern means: One commenter half-remembers 'the squid/fish/whatever' that ejects its own guts to startle predators before another simply names the actual animal responsible.

What commenters described: the squid/fish/whatever that shits its own intestines out to baffle/scare potential predators, because it'll regrow anyway.

Beaked whales are among the least-observed cetaceans; roughly two dozen living species are recognized, and many remain known largely from strandings, specimens, or sparse encounters
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What the pattern means: A stark admission opens this thread: an entire group of two dozen whale species is described as mostly known from dead strandings, since only three of them have ever really been studied.

What commenters described: There are 24 known species, only three of them have been studied, mostly from dead individuals.

Some mantis-shrimp species have 12 color-receptor classes and up to 16 physiologically distinct photoreceptor classes when ultraviolet and polarization channels are included.
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What the pattern means: A reply pivots from the punch itself to the mantis shrimp's eyes, claiming they carry twelve to sixteen photoreceptor types against the handful humans have and can register wavelengths people simply can't perceive.

What commenters described: They also have 12-16 different types of photoreceptor cells in their eyes, which is 4x+ more than we have.

Water resistance is not irrelevant and mantis shrimp do not generate a medium-independent fixed maximum force; strike kinematics vary with medium and context.
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What the pattern means: The same comment's claim that water resistance is irrelevant to the mantis shrimp's strike overstates the case, since strike force and kinematics do in fact vary depending on the medium the animal is punching through.

Limit: The water resistance is actually irrelevant, as the mantis shrimp's biology allows for the maximum possible force generation no matter what they're punching through medium wise.

Some organisms show negligible senescence or unusual regeneration, but saying they have no aging toward death is too broad and depends on species and the definition of senescence.
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What the pattern means: The same claim, taken at face value, overstates what negligible senescence in a handful of species actually shows, since 'no aging toward death' depends heavily on which species and which definition of senescence is used.

Limit: Which also points to a fact that evolutionarily, automatically dying at some point is kind of a feature (or at the very least it's not a bother to select against)

Locusts are grasshopper species capable of density-triggered phase polyphenism: crowding changes behavior, color, physiology, and swarm formation without turning them into a new species
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What the pattern means: A single-line comment compresses locust phase polyphenism into a comic-book image: grasshoppers that transform once population density crosses some threshold.

What commenters described: Locusts are just grasshoppers that hulk out when you get too many of them together

Bats are not blind; visual ability varies across species, and echolocation coexists with functional vision in many bats.
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What the pattern means: A brief reply corrects the 'bats are blind' myth directly, attributing the misconception to echolocation overshadowing the fact that eyesight quality actually varies a lot across bat species.

What commenters described: them having poor eyesight is both true and false, depends a lot on species if i understand correctly. Mostly it's just a myth because people have heard of ecolocation.

Small body size and high metabolic rate correlate with higher visual flicker-fusion thresholds across studied species, but rapid fly responses cannot be reduced simply to shorter nerve-signal travel in a small brain.
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What the pattern means: A commenter reasons through fly reaction speed by analogy to signal travel distance in a small versus large brain, framing quick decisions as a side effect of brain size rather than anything more exotic.

What commenters described: Our brains are large and signals need to bounce around. A fly is small so it could make decisions quickly.

Biofluorescence has been documented in platypus specimens and later surveys found fluorescence across many mammal groups, including other monotremes, but its ecological function remains unresolved.
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What the pattern means: A short reply extends a platypus biofluorescence fact to echidnas too, suggesting the trait may run across monotremes generally rather than being unique to one species.

What commenters described: Not just the platypus, the echidna too. Which implies monotremes in general may all have been that way.

The reply identifies legitimate design limitations—same-plant lower leaves as controls and only one artificial form—so the experiment does not establish general shape-copying ability across artificial hosts.
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What the pattern means: A close read of a plant-mimicry paper flags two design problems worth taking seriously: the artificial-leaf imitation looked visibly worse than the plant's live-leaf mimicry, and the control leaves came from the same plant rather than an independent comparison.

Limit: The mimic leaf doesn't seem to have the same shape, color, or vein structure as the artificial leaf, it even has an extra lobe not present... the paper's control method seems suspect

Wolbachia are maternally transmitted endosymbionts that can manipulate arthropod reproduction through feminization, male killing, parthenogenesis, or cytoplasmic incompatibility; effects vary by host and are not accurately described as acting in “proto-insects” generally.
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What the pattern means: A third example in the same long comment is Wolbachia, described as skewing its insect hosts' reproduction toward more daughters simply because the bacterium can only pass itself along through female eggs.

What commenters described: Wolbachia... can only be passed on by females, so it tweaked the sex ratio to have more females.

Most described and estimated eukaryotic species are terrestrial, but '80% of all species are on land' depends on method and excludes vast microbial uncertainty
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What the pattern means: A one-line stat about 80 percent of all species living on land is dropped here without qualification, glossing over how heavily that figure depends on counting method and unresolved microbial diversity.

What commenters described: 80% of all species are on land.

Behavioral flicker experiments found cats could detect higher flicker rates than humans under matched stimulus conditions, indicating higher visual temporal resolution in that setting; saying cats experience the whole world “faster” or that this alone explains hunting skill overgeneralizes one visual measure.
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What the pattern means: A commenter credits a cat's hunting prowess partly to seeing the world 'slightly faster' than humans, tying a flicker-fusion finding directly to predatory skill.

What commenters described: Cats actually see the world slightly faster than us which makes their hunting skills even more amazing.

Several horned lizard species can squirt blood from vessels near their eyes as a defense, especially against canid predators
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What the pattern means: The horned lizard's blood-squirting defense is stated here as a bare, startling fact with no further elaboration on which predators it actually targets.

What commenters described: That there is a lizard that can shoot blood out of its eyes

Species differ in visual temporal resolution, so animals with higher critical flicker-fusion thresholds can resolve changes humans miss; vision does not operate at a single 65 Hz frame rate, and a hypothetical 300 Hz threshold would not reveal an otherwise complete hidden world.
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What the pattern means: A commenter extrapolates from animal flicker-fusion research into a whole hidden layer of reality, imagining that jumping from a human 65 Hz baseline to 300 Hz might reveal an otherwise invisible parallel world happening all around us.

What commenters described: there are things happening all around us, maybe right in front of us, that we simply can't percieve, because they are too quick.

Wild turkeys are native to North America, so pre-Columbian Old World societies did not have the New World species.
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What the pattern means: A short correction to an assumed pre-Columbian detail points out that turkeys, unlike chickens or geese, are strictly New World animals and simply weren't available to Old World societies before contact.

What commenters described: They didn't have turkeys though since those are New World animals.

Higher visual temporal resolution in some small animals does not establish that their entire conscious life feels proportionally longer or that lifespan is subjectively equalized across species; critical flicker fusion is a task-specific sensory proxy.
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What the pattern means: A commenter takes comfort in the idea that small, short-lived animals experiencing life through faster visual processing might feel like they're getting a proportionally 'full' life, though that comfort rests on stretching a sensory measurement well past what it actually shows.

What commenters described: If they're experiencing life more slowly, then I suppose they're getting their full life like me

Plant photosynthesis does not universally stop at 150 ppm CO2; compensation points vary strongly among species and photosynthetic pathways
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What the pattern means: A single added detail claims photosynthesis broadly halts once atmospheric CO2 drops to 150 ppm, stated as a fixed threshold rather than something that actually varies across plant species and photosynthetic pathways.

What commenters described: at 150 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere plants begin to respire, and photosynthesis stops.

Some insects resolve faster visual changes than humans, but “eight times slower time” is not a general species-independent result and conflates flicker-fusion thresholds with subjective time.
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What the pattern means: A recalled statistic that some insects perceive time '8 times slower' than humans treats a flicker-fusion-style sensory measurement as though it directly translates into subjective time perception.

What commenters described: some insect species perceive time up to 8 times slower than humans do.

Feeding bears or allowing access to human food can create dangerous food conditioning and may lead to the bear being killed
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What the pattern means: A tourist family's supposedly 'cute' viral video of hand-feeding a black bear at a picnic table got them fined once wildlife officials saw it, and a much grimmer story of a man mauled after running out of candy he'd been feeding a bear shows the two ways this habit typically ends.

What commenters described: A fed bear is a dead bear

Rabies is rare in opossums and their low body temperature is one proposed contributor, but they are not immune and documented infections occur
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What the pattern means: A commenter's first guess that opossums resist rabies because of unusually high body temperature gets corrected within the same short exchange to the opposite: their body runs unusually low, around 94 to 96 degrees.

Limit: So high, I believe, actually? / No they were correct, they have an unusually low body temperature of around 94-96 degrees.

Humans and livestock dominate mammalian biomass, but the widely cited 36/60/4-percent split refers to humans, livestock, and wild mammals—not livestock plus pets
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What the pattern means: The catchy 'humans, livestock, or pets' framing for mammal biomass gets quietly replaced a comment later by the actual three-way split — 36 percent human, 59 percent livestock, only 5 percent wild — with household pets basically rounding to nothing.

What commenters described: 36% of earths mammalian biomass is humans, 59% is livestock and pets, and 5% is wild mammals.

Female platypuses normally develop only the left ovary and oviduct as functional reproductive organs.
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What the pattern means: Tucked into a long list of platypus oddities — the glowing fur, the venom spurs, the cheek pouches — is a single quiet line noting that only one of a female's two ovaries actually develops and works, treated as just another item on the pile rather than anything remarkable on its own.

What commenters described: a non-functioning ovary

Platypuses have a lower body temperature than most placental mammals.
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What the pattern means: That same rundown of platypus quirks lists a noticeably lower body temperature right alongside egg-laying and electroreception, as if a genuinely unusual mammalian trait were no stranger than any of the more famous ones on the list.

Some parasites alter host behavior in ways that improve transmission, but mechanisms are diverse and are not universally neurotoxins that override a brain or force literal suicide
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What the pattern means: Calling parasite manipulation 'biological puppetry' that forces hosts into suicide via neurotoxins is a dramatic catch-all phrase that papers over how different the real mechanisms actually are across species, even when the underlying phenomenon — a parasite altering host behavior to its own advantage — is genuinely documented.

The claim that opossums eliminate Lyme-infected ticks is unsupported; opossums do have resistance to several pit-viper venom components, but they are not universally immune to snake venom and do not merely pass out
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What the pattern means: A property owner's fondness for the opossums around their land comes with two claims stacked on top of each other — that eaten ticks lose their Lyme payload and that opossums are basically immune to snake venom — neither backed by anything beyond personal observation.

Human cone sensitivities overlap and are compared through opponent neural processing; mantis shrimp results rule out the same conventional opponent-coding explanation, so the systems cannot be equated from overlap alone.
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What the pattern means: A reply compares mantis shrimp receptor overlap to the well-known overlap between human red and green cone spectra, arguing the two situations aren't so different — an analogy that holds only until you note mantis shrimp results actually rule out the conventional opponent-coding explanation altogether.

Mantis shrimp color processing appears to shift more spectral classification toward narrow receptor channels and early neural circuitry, but saying the eyes do all the work and the brain does not process color is too absolute.
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What the pattern means: Saying mantis shrimp color sense happens mostly 'in the eye' rather than the brain captures a real finding about their narrow-channel receptors, but stating flatly that 'the brain doesn't process it' is a harder absolute than the underlying research actually supports for any animal with a visual system.

Many mantis shrimp have about 12 spectral photoreceptor classes, including ultraviolet channels—not 16 ordinary color receptors—and their color discrimination is unlike imagined superhuman vision
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What the pattern means: The commonly repeated '16 color receptors' figure for mantis shrimp doesn't quite match more careful counts, which land closer to a dozen spectral classes including ultraviolet channels — a correction that doesn't make their color vision any less genuinely alien to imagine.

A platypus bill is a soft, sensory organ containing mechanoreceptors and electroreceptors, substantially unlike a hard avian beak despite the visual “duck-billed” comparison.
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What the pattern means: A 'well, actually' correction points out that the platypus's 'duck bill' comparison actually runs backwards: the bill is a soft, electroreceptor-packed sensory organ that evolved long before ducks had their hard keratin beak, making the platypus the original and the duck the latecomer.

Hippos can move along the bottom underwater and run quickly on land, but the thread’s exact 12-mph underwater figure is not established
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What the pattern means: The pairing of numbers here is what makes it memorable — a hippo that can outrun most people on land, then keep moving along a riverbed fully submerged — repeated by the commenter from what sounds like secondhand video rather than a cited measurement.

Experiments have reported directional root growth toward sound associated with flowing water, but not echolocation based on sounds of cellular division.
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What the pattern means: A commenter attributes to Michael Pollan the idea that plant roots might grow toward the sound of flowing water, careful to note this is a different and shakier claim than roots supposedly echolocating off the sound of their own cell division.

Bat echolocation supplies spatial information analogous to vision but is an auditory sense, not sight.
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What the pattern means: Responding to a broader thread about vision evolving without eyes, one reply reaches for bats as the closest real-world analogue, calling echolocation “basically sight without eyes” while immediately noting the irony that bats keep functioning eyesight anyway.

What commenters described: Bats have echo location, that's basically sight without eyes

Limit: the commenter notes bats also have eyes, so it isn't a true case of vision without eyesight

Honey bees perform a tremble dance distinct from the waggle dance; it is associated with long nectar-unloading delays and helps rebalance foraging and food-processing labor, although its receivers and full information content remain under study.
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What the pattern means: A commenter who sounds like an actual bee researcher teases a lesser-known behavior beyond the famous waggle dance, describing a “tremble dance” tied to long waits for nectar unloading, but stops short of explaining who receives the signal or what it fully communicates because the findings aren't published yet.

What commenters described: Most people know about the waggle dance, but have you heard of the tremble dance?

Limit: the commenter says they can't disclose more yet — “You'll have to wait til the publication”

Platypuses combine many unusual mammalian traits
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What the pattern means: Commenters keep stacking up platypus oddities faster than any single adaptation can carry the thread: venomous spurs, UV-glowing fur, electroreception, and egg-laying alongside milk production all get name-checked as if the thread can't settle on which trait is the weird one.

What commenters described: They glow teal under UV light

Limit: Early naturalists dismissed the first specimen sent to Europe as an outright taxidermy hoax, a credibility problem the animal's biology has never fully shaken.

The odometer study really did glue pig-bristle stilts to legs and shorten other ants' legs, but 'no ethics' is a moral judgment rather than a reported experimental-control failure
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What the pattern means: What sticks with commenters isn't the odometer mechanism itself but the leg-shortening control group, several process it through dark jokes about ant stumps, while the person who raised it in the first place admits upfront they're not sure the detail is even accurate.

What commenters described: We cut the bottom out of a plastic bowl to make a 30–50 cm ring that we can place around an ant to trap it... apply little coloured dots of paint to the abdomen.

Limit: I don't know if its true... No idea if that is true, the original poster admits about the leg-shortening claim itself.

Predatory black-bear attacks are possible but exceptionally rare; categorical claims that black bears never hunt people are false
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What the pattern means: Someone who sat through a lecture on roughly a hundred years of black bear encounter statistics reports that predatory attacks make up only about a tenth of cases, cutting against both the blanket claim that black bears never hunt people and the opposite fear that they routinely do.

What commenters described: Only about 10% were black bears in predatory mode, most of the rest were more in the dumbass category.

Limit: Black bears do NOT hunt people, one reply insists flatly, directly contradicting the lecture-goer's account in the same thread.

Lobster crusher/cutter claw laterality is developmentally plastic; the claim that most lobsters are left-handed is not established
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What the pattern means: The entire supporting record is two lines long, a bare assertion of left-handed dominance met only by a nitpick over the word 'handed' versus 'clawed,' with nobody in the exchange actually confirming the underlying claim.

Limit: Nobody in this short exchange offers evidence for the handedness claim itself; the one reply only questions the wording.

Museum platypus fur fluoresced blue-green under ultraviolet light, but whether living platypuses use the effect biologically is unknown
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What the pattern means: This exchange is pure bewilderment rather than explanation, a flat statement of the fact followed by a reply admitting the animal simply keeps getting stranger with each new detail people learn about it.

Many grasses deposit silica phytoliths that can increase leaf abrasiveness and contribute to herbivore defense, although effects on teeth and feeding vary
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What the pattern means: Two commenters land on the exact same specific mechanism without prompting each other, describing grasses embedding tiny mineral particles from the soil that grind down the teeth of whatever grazes on them.

What commenters described: Many grasses also incorporate silicates (basically tiny sand particles) into them so they wear down herbivore teeth.

Adult platypuses lack functional teeth and mechanically process food with keratinized grinding pads.
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What the pattern means: A single detailed comment lays out the platypus's whole feeding sequence end to end, grit scooped off riverbeds, food mashed between keratin bill plates, then passed straight into the intestine without ever touching a stomach.

What commenters described: Platypi have no teeth or stomachs! They eat soft-bodied critters like worms which they hoover out from riverbeds, along with grit and tiny pebbles.

Platypuses collect gravel with benthic prey, but the reply’s detailed claim that swallowed pebbles continue grinding food inside the gut is not established by the reviewed primary sources.
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What the pattern means: That same gravel-and-grit anecdote gets stretched by readers into an extra claim not actually present in the source, that the swallowed pebbles keep grinding food down further once they're inside the gut rather than just having been collected alongside prey.

Limit: The detailed claim that swallowed pebbles continue grinding food inside the gut isn't established by the comment it's drawn from.

Echolocation aids rapid nocturnal flight and prey detection.
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What the pattern means: That same reply reframes echolocation as a speed problem rather than a vision problem, useful for tracking small, fast targets in flight rather than compensating for poor eyesight.

What commenters described: They echolocate because they fly through the air quickly and are trying to get tiny flying targets into their mouth.

Platypus fur biofluorescence under ultraviolet light was first reported scientifically in 2020, after the Perry the Platypus character debuted.
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What the pattern means: The joke in this single comment lands on a genuinely funny chronological detail: the cartoon character predates the actual scientific discovery of platypus fur glowing under UV light by well over a decade.

What commenters described: What's funny is this was not known when Perry the Platypus was created.

Mantis shrimps are distributed in tropical and subtropical marine habitats around the world, not only Australia.
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What the pattern means: The single reply here pokes fun at the reflexive assumption that any strange-looking animal must be Australian, when mantis shrimp actually range across tropical and subtropical waters worldwide.

What commenters described: Was so curious to know where are they found - of course Australia

Exenatide was inspired by a Gila-monster venom peptide, but not every popular GLP-1 drug is derived from venom
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What the pattern means: The founding comment collapses a specific drug-discovery story, one GLP-1 medication traced back to a Gila monster venom peptide, into a sweeping claim about 'our most popular drug' as though venom were the origin of the entire class.

Transgenic goats have produced recombinant spider-silk proteins in milk, which must be purified and spun into fibers
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What the pattern means: The founding comment treats transgenic spider goats purely as an astonishing existence claim, with nothing in the thread describing the actual process of purifying the milk protein and spinning it into usable silk fiber.

Young Toxeus magnus jumping spiders receive a milk-like nutritive secretion from their mother
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What the pattern means: This entry is a bare link drop titled 'spider milk,' offered with no elaboration on which species produces it or what the secretion actually does for the spiderlings that receive it.

The extreme strike measurements apply to specialized smashing mantis shrimp such as the peacock mantis shrimp; published measurements are around 23 m/s with accelerations exceeding 10,000 g and peak forces up to about 1,500 N.
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What the pattern means: A commenter who has actually kept several mantis shrimp species draws a size hierarchy from lived experience — a toddler's finger-flick from a small Caribbean rock mantis, a genuinely painful stick-whack from a mid-size purple-spotted mantis, and the peacock mantis alone delivering the record punch everyone quotes.

What commenters described: Her punch felt like a very young toddler trying to flick me with their finger... His punch legitimately hurt, like someone whacking my hand at full strength with a small stick.

Limit: The same commenter notes the peacock mantis is smart enough to recognize its keeper and usually pulls its punches around them.

Female platypuses lack nipples/teats and deliver milk through skin-associated mammary areas.
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What the pattern means: Buried inside a much longer platypus rundown is the detail that females skip nipples entirely, sweating milk out through patches of skin instead, a delivery method the commenter treats as just one oddity in a genome full of them.

What commenters described: They're mammals but don't have nipples.

Male platypuses possess venomous ankle spurs.
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What the pattern means: The same platypus deep-dive mentions, almost in passing, that males carry venom, framed less as the headline fact and more as one entry in a list that also covers electroreception and an unusual sex-chromosome count.

What commenters described: The males have venom.

Platypuses are egg-laying mammals.
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What the pattern means: Egg-laying gets treated as the least surprising item on the commenter's list, mentioned in the same breath as the animal's missing nipples before the reply pivots to the genuinely strange genetics underneath.

What commenters described: We all know how weird they look, and that they lay eggs, and they're mammals but don't have nipples.

Platypuses use electroreception through bill receptors innervated by trigeminal pathways.
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What the pattern means: The commenter traces the platypus's electric sense back to a familiar piece of anatomy, noting that its bill receptors run on the trigeminal nerve, the same nerve humans use, even though the sense itself evolved independently in this lineage.

What commenters described: The nerve that goes to the electroreceptors in their bill is the trigeminal nerve, which is homologous to the trigeminal nerve in humans and other mammals.

A starfish species sees despite lacking eyes.
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What the pattern means: A commenter raises the possibility almost as a question they're still processing themselves, calling the idea of vision without eyes 'terrifyingly fascinating' rather than stating it as settled fact.

What commenters described: The thought of vision independently developing without eyesight is terrifyingly fascinating.

Some starfish have image-forming vision.
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What the pattern means: The identical comment doubles as evidence for the narrower, more precise version of the claim, that certain starfish don't just sense light but appear to form actual images despite having no dedicated eye structures.

What commenters described: Isn't there a species of starfish that is thought to be able to see, despite not having eyes?

Many shrews have exceptionally high metabolic demands and must eat every few hours; exact starvation times vary by species, temperature, and condition.
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What the pattern means: A commenter tosses off the shrew's extreme metabolism almost as an aside, noting they can starve within a couple of hours if they miss a meal.

What commenters described: A shrew's metabolism is so fast they can starve to death in a couple of hours.

Cheetahs can reach roughly 60–70 mph only for a short sprint, not sustained travel
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What the pattern means: A commenter connects the cheetah's fragile, sprint-built body directly to its temperament, explaining that zookeepers pair skittish cheetahs with unbothered Labrador companions precisely because a startled cheetah can injure itself just by bolting.

What commenters described: A small sprain could lead to death by starvation when you've got a glass cannon build... in zoos, they're given a labrador as a companion.

Honeybee waggle dances encode a resource's direction relative to the Sun and approximate distance from the hive
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What the pattern means: A commenter breaks down the waggle dance's actual grammar, circular for near food and figure-eight for far, with the waggling segment's angle relative to the hive pointing toward the Sun-relative direction of the resource.

What commenters described: The orientation of the bee during this waggling portion relative to the hive indicates the direction of the food source relative to the sun.

Limit: It is debated how much information the dance really encodes, since some bee species appear to ignore parts of the signal entirely.

Dehydrated tardigrades can survive extreme cold, heat, radiation and space vacuum under limited conditions—not every extreme indefinitely
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What the pattern means: The original poster runs through tardigrades' survival resume like a highlight reel, absolute-zero cold, boiling heat, vacuum exposure, radiation a thousand times a lethal human dose, framing their ISS experiment survival as proof life can be almost unreasonably tough.

What commenters described: They just… woke up like nothing happened when brought back [from direct exposure to vacuum and solar radiation outside the ISS].

Limit: These extremes are survived only in a dehydrated, dormant state under specific experimental conditions, not indefinitely or while active.

Most sea-star species possess a compound eye at the tip of each arm; some species form low-resolution images and use vision for navigation.
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What the pattern means: A commenter corrects the 'no eyes' framing directly, noting most sea stars actually carry a compound eye at the very tip of each arm rather than lacking eyes entirely.

What commenters described: Their most complex eyes are on the tips of their arms.

The premise that starfish see despite having no eyes is incorrect: most starfish species have compound eyes at their arm tips, and some use them for low-resolution visual navigation.
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What the pattern means: A commenter answers the 'eyeless vision' claim not with an explanation but with a direct source link, quoting the original question back before pointing to evidence that most starfish actually do have compound eyes at their arm tips.

Limit: The reply is mostly a quoted question plus a link rather than an explanation in its own words, so the correcting detail rests on a source the excerpt itself doesn't spell out.

In classic shoot phototropism, directional blue-light sensing produces unequal auxin signaling and greater elongation on the shaded side, bending the shoot toward light.
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What the pattern means: A commenter offers a half-remembered but broadly correct mechanism for why plants bend toward light, guessing that the sunlit side simply grows slower than the shaded side, curving the stem toward the source.

What commenters described: The sides being hit by sunlight grow slower than the ones in the 'dark.'

Limit: The commenter openly hedges the explanation as something they half-remember from a search rather than confidently known biology.

Leaves around a tree crown do not refute phototropism: organ orientation reflects local light from many directions plus development, gravity, branch geometry, and self-shading—not a single fixed Sun-facing rule.
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What the pattern means: A commenter raises what looks like a knockout counterexample to phototropism, pointing out that a tree's leaves fan out in every direction around the trunk rather than all turning to face the Sun.

Limit: This overlooks that individual leaves and branches respond to their own local light exposure, shading, and growth pattern, not a single simple rule that every leaf on the plant must point sunward.

No crawling or bipedal design is universally 'best'; locomotor anatomy trades energy cost, stability, speed, habitat, feeding, and defense under local selection
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What the pattern means: Commenters push back on the idea that any single body plan is objectively 'best,' pointing out that crouched, low, or upright locomotion each pays off differently depending on gravity, predation style, and climate.

What commenters described: Human bipedal locomotion is particularly energy efficient, one of the most efficient ones actually. Because we're optimized for long distance walking or running in tropical climates

Narwhals and platypuses are real mammals with unusually specialized anatomy; the platypus lays eggs, lacks nipples, detects prey electrically, and males possess venomous ankle spurs
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What the pattern means: The thread treats narwhals and platypuses as living punchlines, with one reply cataloguing the platypus's egg-laying, venom, and nipple-less milk secretion as evidence it looks more designed by committee than evolved.

What commenters described: How does a nocturnal, highly solitary, egg-laying, carnivorous, venomous mammal who lacks nipples, instead secreting milk from pores for their young..... even exist.

Female spotted hyenas have an elongated clitoris through which they mate and give birth; calling it a fake penis is anatomically misleading
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What the pattern means: In two blunt lines, commenters note that female spotted hyenas have an oversized clitoris they both mate and give birth through, calling the popular 'fake penis' label a misleading shorthand for real anatomy.

What commenters described: And they give birth through it.

Peacock mantis shrimp are small animals relative to the forces produced by their raptorial appendages.
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What the pattern means: A short reply marvels at the sheer mismatch between the mantis shrimp's small body and the force its punching appendage can generate.

What commenters described: those things are relatively tiny, not longer than a hand. And they can do this.

More receptor classes do not mean four times more colors or unimaginable color discrimination; behavioral tests found surprisingly coarse wavelength discrimination.
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What the pattern means: A commenter's claim that mantis shrimp see colors humans 'can't even imagine' because of their extra photoreceptor types gets stated at face value here, without the discrimination caveats other replies elsewhere in the thread raise.

What commenters described: They also have 12-16 different types of photoreceptor cells in their eyes, which is 4x+ more than we have.

Mantis shrimp can detect ultraviolet wavelengths and have poorer fine spectral discrimination than humans despite many narrow-tuned receptors.
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What the pattern means: A more careful reply walks back the 'mantis shrimp see more colors' claim, explaining their narrow receptors actually make fine discrimination worse, though mixed colors register as two distinct simultaneous hues rather than blending like ours.

What commenters described: If you mixed blue and yellow, we would see green but they would see blue and yellow simultaneously instead.

Some mantis shrimps have 12 spectral photoreceptor classes spanning ultraviolet to far red, but that does not mean they see “RGB plus 13 other colors.”
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What the pattern means: A commenter's shorthand that mantis shrimp see 'RGB plus 13 other colors' packages their many photoreceptor classes into a tidy but oversimplified headline number.

What commenters described: we see red, green, and blue... they see RGB + 13 other colours.

Plant ocelli—lens-like epidermal cells focusing light onto sensitive tissue—are a proposed mechanism for Boquila leaf mimicry, not an established anatomical discovery.
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What the pattern means: A commenter describes the leading theory behind Boquila vine mimicry, microscopic lens-like 'ocelli' cells that let the plant essentially see the shapes around it, as more unsettling than the mimicry itself.

What commenters described: they have "ocelli," which are basically microscopic lens-like cells on the surface of their leaves that function like primitive eyes

Behavioral tests found mantis shrimps surprisingly poor at fine wavelength discrimination despite their many receptor classes, consistent with a rapid classification system rather than human-like extra shades.
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What the pattern means: A commenter admits secondhand knowledge that mantis shrimp lump many of their extra wavelengths into single perceived colors rather than seeing each one distinctly, softening the popular claim about their vision.

What commenters described: they don't perceive every shade of those wavelengths and a lot of similar ones get kind of grouped together into one colour for them

The eye-lens method provides evidence for exceptional longevity but does not directly explain the biological mechanism; the commenter’s affiliation claim is wrong because Steven Austad is associated with the University of Alabama at Birmingham, not Harvard.
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What the pattern means: A commenter challenges a shark-longevity claim by naming the researcher behind eye-lens dating methods, though the correction itself misplaces his university, underscoring how much uncertainty still surrounds aging non-model species.

What commenters described: there is extraordinarily high uncertainty in the lifespans of these sorts of organisms... We do know that sharks can live a long time, but we don't know why mechanistically.

Limit: The public, and popular science magazines, tend to gloss over the reality of non-destructive sampling and assaying age in various species.

Some bacteria transfer electrons outside their cells to minerals or electrodes
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What the pattern means: A one-line comment flags that some bacteria effectively 'breathe electricity,' transferring electrons outside their own cells to minerals or electrodes instead of using conventional respiration.

What commenters described: some bacteria breathe electricity

Carboniferous coal abundance was not caused by an absence of wood-degrading organisms, and petrified wood forms by mineral replacement rather than because decomposers had not evolved
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What the pattern means: A detailed rebuttal traces the actual explanation for Carboniferous coal to unusually favorable tree-growing conditions and continental arrangement rather than any lag in decomposers, and a second reply catches a copycat claim about petrified wood by pointing to Petrified Forest wood that formed a hundred million years after decomposers already existed.

What commenters described: wood-degrading fungi didn't evolve for a few tens of millions of years after wood did... this just means that wood degraded a little more slowly in the Carboniferous, rather than not degrading at all.

Horned lizards can squirt blood from the eye region and diet-derived compounds deter canids, but the reported range is around a metre, not thirty feet
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What the pattern means: One commenter's shock at seeing footage of the blood 'shooting about 30 feet' shows how far the viral framing has drifted from the roughly arm's-length range actually documented, though the added detail that the blood carries ant-derived compounds toxic to canid predators specifically checks out as real biology.

Limit: I thought it was like a little squirt of blood, not like an arterial rupture — a self-correction after actually seeing footage, though the 30-foot figure itself remains an overstatement.

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And unfortunately cut off the legs of some of them too. Science is a complicated field.

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And they STILL did nothing to prevent the first, second, and third reich.

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your body has more bacteria cells than people realize

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Rush knew what they were talking about, that's for sure!

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WTF with these guys. They just get weirder every time I learn something new about them.

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Across this category the comment sections do a lot of their own fact-checking in real time: viral claims about ancient sharks, 'alien' octopuses, mind-controlling fungi, and platypus genetics routinely get corrected or narrowed by other repliers rather than accepted outright, while a handful of single detailed comments -- the platypus sex-chromosome rundown, the Greenland shark 'sleep assassin' description, the grizzly-decapitates-a-moose warning -- get mined repeatedly across several separate items for different specific claims buried inside them. Threads split fairly cleanly between two modes: dense technical correction (taxonomy, radiocarbon-dating methodology, testosterone sourcing, cell-count math, color-vision limits) and pure joke-stacking (Greenland-shark age jokes, bear-encounter mnemonics, chicken-biomass trivia), with surprisingly little middle ground between the two.

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Mitochondria descended from bacteria through ancient endosymbiosis
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What the pattern means: One commenter frames endosymbiosis almost like an office merger -- an ancient invasion that turned into permanent cooperation -- while another recommends an entire book on the topic by title.

What commenters described: Every cell in your body is powered by tiny descendants of microbes that decided cooperation was better than fighting.

Platypus sex chromosomes share homology with bird Z as well as mammalian/reptilian ancestral systems.
1 source record

What the pattern means: A single dense comment walks through platypus genetics point by point -- ten sex chromosomes, no SRY gene, an AMH gene sitting on a chromosome that's oddly more homologous to a bird's Z chromosome than to typical mammal sex chromosomes.

What commenters described: The platypus has TEN sex chromosomes, so male platypus are XY XY XY XY XY.

Limit: This suggests that there was separate, convergent evolution in monotremes and other mammals.

A haploid human genome contains about three billion base pairs, while an average gut-bacterial genome is on the order of a few million base pairs; the human genome is therefore typically hundreds to roughly a thousand times larger, not just a little under 100 times larger.
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What the pattern means: A genome-size comparison undersells the actual gap by roughly an order of magnitude, describing the human genome as 'a bit below 100 times' larger than bacterial DNA when it's typically hundreds of times larger.

What commenters described: Human DNA is a bit below a 100 times as large as most bacterial DNA.

Monotremes are mammals descended from the mammalian lineage, not a vertebrate group that evolved independently in convergence with birds; similarities between platypus and bird sex chromosomes do not erase that ancestry.
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What the pattern means: This reply is a rare moment of public self-correction -- the commenter catches themselves having assumed monotremes evolved separately from other mammals in parallel with birds, when they're actually part of the same mammalian lineage.

What commenters described: I somehow was implicitly wondering if monotremes evolved separately and convergent from birds. I should have at least fact-checked that...

Humans are exceptional heat-adapted endurance runners, but not the universally best long-distance species
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What the pattern means: Commenters turn a simple 'best distance runner' claim into a running debate with citations, weighing human-versus-horse endurance races against rival long-distance specialists like pronghorns and ostriches.

What commenters described: Properly trained humans win hands down. Our aerobic threshold is miles higher.

Limit: We're outperformed by a few animals. We're top 10 though. Google pronghorns, ostriches, etc

Carcinization is repeated evolution of a crab-like body within decapod crustaceans, particularly anomurans—not everything evolving into an optimal crab
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What the pattern means: The thread runs almost entirely on crab jokes before one reply reins things in, noting the pattern is confined to anomuran crustaceans rather than a universal evolutionary endpoint.

What commenters described: Carcinization. Everything eventually evolves into crabs. It's the optimal form.

Limit: Non-crab *crustaceans* evolving into crabs, not everything

Fossils on Aldabra support repeated evolution of flightlessness after white-throated rails recolonized the atoll, an example of iterative evolution—not literally one extinct species resurrecting
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What the pattern means: A tidy explanation of the twice-evolved flightless rail sparks a long, prickly argument over whether it's fair to call the two populations the 'same species' given the 36,000 years separating their extinction and re-evolution.

What commenters described: The white-throated rail evolved to be flightless on an atoll in the Seychelles. Then life was wiped out by a sea level rise. It was colonized again by the white-throated rails and they again evolved to be flightless.

Limit: They aren't literally the same species but have a very similar form.

Mushrooms are fungal fruiting structures; fungi form their own eukaryotic lineage and share a more recent common ancestor with animals than with plants
12 source records

What the pattern means: Commenters work through why mushrooms defy the plant-or-animal categories taught in school, with one noting fungi actually share a more recent common ancestor with animals than with the plants they resemble.

What commenters described: Even crazier: genetically, they are closer to animals than to plants

Published experiments report ants communicating feeder positions and small-number operations, but this is separate from the stride odometer and should not be generalized to human-like arithmetic
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What the pattern means: A question about how ants could count without language gets answered with an experiment moving food along a row of 40 slots, though a video reference on relative-quantity perception in spiders suggests the ants are comparing rough distances rather than doing arithmetic.

What commenters described: researchers tested putting food in one particular slot in a long row of slots... They found that ants can successfully communicate which "number" of slot it's in

Limit: almost all animals can compare relative amounts of objects... they cant tell if the amount is less than 25% more

Birds are living theropod dinosaurs
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What the pattern means: Short exchanges pile on feathered velociraptors and enantiornithine wing-claws as evidence blurring 'dinosaur' and 'bird,' landing on the simple consensus that birds are dinosaurs, full stop.

What commenters described: They belong to the raptorial group of theropod dinosaurs... The evolution from "small raptor" to "gliding raptor" to "flying raptor" to bird is well-represented in the fossil record

Models place humanity's genealogical most recent common ancestor only a few thousand years ago, not at a universal fixed 33 generations
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What the pattern means: A pub-fact about a fixed '33 generations to a common ancestor' rule gets gently corrected into an exponential-ancestry explanation, showing genealogical lines converge much faster than a round number implies.

What commenters described: Genealogically your ancestry grows like 2^n where n is number of generations back

Genetic effective population size is not the same as the number of living individuals
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What the pattern means: Commenters push back hard on treating a genetic bottleneck estimate as a literal headcount, walking through why mitochondrial and Y-chromosome markers can imply a small breeding pool while much larger total human numbers existed alongside it.

What commenters described: everyone alive has ancestors that were part of the same population that had a few thousand breeding individuals. The actual number of humans throughout that period was probably a lot higher.

Limit: the physical evidence doesn't match the DNA conclusion, that there were still plenty of human settlements or whatever in the fossil record at the time

Life maintains most atmospheric oxygen, and its early rise transformed Earth, but oxygenic photosynthesis predates the Great Oxidation Event and the event's extinction magnitude is uncertain
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What the pattern means: The Great Oxidation Event gets described as ancient microbes poisoning their rivals with their own waste product, with a reply adding that atmospheric oxygen has actually been slowly declining from a higher peak rather than steadily climbing to today's level.

What commenters described: Earth had almost no free oxygen before microbes evolved photosynthesis and began releasing it as a waste product. Over millions of years, that waste gas built up

Limit: It didn't build up to today's levels. It was higher in the past and has been on a steady slow decline since.

Crab-like body forms evolved independently multiple times within decapod crustaceans, especially anomurans; evolution does not drive all organisms toward an optimal crab endpoint
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What the pattern means: A second crab thread repeats the joke before a longer reply pulls in actual taxonomy, arguing the crab body only recurs within a narrow related group and comparing it to the equally common evolution of worm-shaped bodies.

What commenters described: Crabs have evolved like five times.

Limit: Crabs only ever evolved out of things that were already much like, and closely related to, other crablike things. The tendency of evolution to produce crabs is greatly exaggerated.

Archaeological continuity across the Toba eruption argues against a simple global near-extinction caused by Toba
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What the pattern means: A self-identified volcanologist walks back the popular Toba-eruption doomsday story point by point, describing how the theory linking the ash layer to a human near-extinction has fallen out of favor in the literature they reviewed for a seminar.

What commenters described: Volcanologist here! I happened to write a short essay on this subject for a seminar not too long ago... generally that theory has fallen out of favor.

Shark-like cartilaginous-fish fossils predate the first trees, but whether 'sharks' are older than trees depends on whether the term includes stem chondrichthyans or only true crown sharks
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What the pattern means: The 'sharks older than trees' one-liner draws an immediate rebuttal that the chompy Devonian fish weren't technically sharks, followed by a more careful answer noting the claim's truth flips depending on whether crown sharks or the earlier stem lineage is meant.

What commenters described: There indeed were big chompy fish around before trees. They just weren't sharks

Limit: If you mean Selachii (i.e. true sharks, excluding rays and skates), then they evolved... long after trees (mid Devonian).

Pairwise mitochondrial-DNA mismatch distributions were used to infer past demographic expansion and bottlenecks
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What the pattern means: A firsthand account describes an advisor staggering down a hallway near midnight after a day and a half of simulations, giving a rare glimpse of the grunt work behind using mtDNA pairwise differences to infer ancient population expansion.

What commenters described: if human populations had been growing steadily, a graph of all the differences should look like radioactive decay, lots of folks with few differences

Siphonophores are colonial cnidarians composed of genetically identical, highly specialized zooids that function together; this is extreme colonial integration, not animals independently re-evolving cellular multicellularity
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What the pattern means: Siphonophores get filed under 'deep sea things that sound fake,' with one commenter reframing the colonial structure as multicellularity being reinvented a second time rather than one unusually large animal.

What commenters described: Animals that decided multicellularity was so cool they did it again

Animal studies support some transgenerational epigenetic effects, but humans have not been shown to inherit a grandparent’s PTSD or literal memories
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What the pattern means: The claim starts as inherited PTSD from a traumatized grandparent, then gets walked back toward the more defensible version documented in mice, fruit flies and flatworms: stress-response shifts rather than literal transmitted memories.

What commenters described: That memories can somewhat be inherited (not literal memories, more like stress response and stuff). So far it's been proven for mice, butterflies and some worms.

Shark-lineage fossils predate the first trees by tens of millions of years, though exact dates depend on what counts as a shark or a tree
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What the pattern means: This version of the sharks-and-trees comparison leans into raw numbers, with commenters stacking '50 million years,' '400 million years ago' and crying emoji, treating the sheer age gap itself as the punchline rather than debating definitions.

What commenters described: Sharks were already patrolling the oceans while the land was basically just moss and rocks.

Honeybees can use optic flow and sequential landmark counts in navigation, with experiments showing a small counting range rather than general arithmetic
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What the pattern means: Bee navigation gets explained through a tube experiment where changing the number of vertical stripes on the walls confused foragers mid-flight, framing the behavior as landmark counting rather than the odometer-style step counting ants use.

What commenters described: there was a paper where bees were convinced to fly down a tube and would get confused half way down, if the researchers cahnged the number of verticle lines on the inside of the tube.

Iberian ribbed newts can rotate ribs through the skin while secreting poison, but claims that the wounds never become infected go beyond the study
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What the pattern means: The rib-through-skin defense draws less astonishment than the follow-up claim that the newt never gets infected doing it, with one commenter comparing their own paper-cut immune response unfavorably.

What commenters described: the newt rotates its ribs forward, puncturing its skin through orange, tubercle-lined warts, while secreting poison that coats the bones

A 2026 study found Prototaxites taiti structurally and chemically distinct from known fungi and proposed an extinct eukaryotic lineage; this does not yet prove an entirely new formal kingdom for every Prototaxites species
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What the pattern means: A description of Prototaxites as meter-tall organisms that resisted classification as fungus prompts a wistful reply about how much of deep history is just organisms figuring themselves out as time marches on.

What commenters described: They were originally thought to be giant fungus, even though they don't really resemble any living or extinct fungus

Earth has experienced five canonical Phanerozoic mass extinctions, and current human-driven extinction rates and biodiversity losses are severe, but whether the 75%-species threshold for a sixth mass extinction has already been crossed is debated
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What the pattern means: The sixth-extinction claim gets clarified with a reminder that mass extinction means the overwhelming majority of species dying out, not any single species, before someone lands a dark joke about the planet cleansing itself.

What commenters described: we are most likely in the midst of the sixth mass extinction event.

Limit: A mass extinction is different than one species (even humans) going extinct. Mass extinction is when almost all (80+%) of every single species on the planet goes extinct.

The 2.1-billion-year-old Francevillian structures are real geological objects in a locally nutrient-rich basin, but whether they are biological macrofossils remains disputed
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What the pattern means: A detailed post describing spiral rock impressions on a 2-billion-year-old Gabon seabed gets backed up with a 2026 paper quote that itself hedges, calling the structures 'much-debated' rather than confirmed macrofossils.

What commenters described: there are grooved, spiral-shaped impressions of various sizes, the largest about 17 centimeters in diameter, and they kinda look like late Precambrian animal fossils

Limit: the much-debated 2.1 Ga Francevillian macrobiota, challenges established timelines of biological innovation

Viruses strongly shape evolution, and endogenous retroviral sequences make up roughly 8% of the human genome, mostly as ancient degraded insertions
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What the pattern means: This exchange barely gets past a one-word answer before a second comment supplies the number that makes it interesting: roughly 8 percent of the human genome traces back to ancient viral insertions.

What commenters described: the human genome carries ~8% virus genome?

Crab-like body plans have evolved repeatedly in decapod crustaceans, but evolution is not literally turning everything into crabs
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What the pattern means: A minimal two-line exchange shows the crab meme surviving even stripped down to its bare essentials, with a reply pointing out that reversing out of a crab body plan is also a documented thing.

What commenters described: Everything becomes crab

Limit: decarcinisation is also a thing.

The claim that animal ancestors were sessile adults whose mobile juveniles simply refused to settle is a speculative narrative, not the established origin of animals
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What the pattern means: A speculative origin story casts animal ancestors as sessile organisms whose mobile larval stage simply never went home, offered as a mirror image of the fungi explanation elsewhere in the same thread.

What commenters described: animals are fruits/seeds/spores that grew legs. I learned at some point that our ancestors were sessile organisms, like fungi and plants, that released juvenile forms

Treating a eusocial insect colony as a superorganism is an established evolutionary analogy: reproductive castes function like a germ line and workers like a soma, but an individual ant is not literally a shed skin cell.
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What the pattern means: A commenter likens crossing paths with a single ant to brushing against someone else's shed skin cell, pushing the superorganism metaphor from an abstraction about queens and workers into a genuinely visceral image.

What commenters described: Encountering an ant walking on a path is like running across someone's patch of skin that scraped off their feet.

Fossils support a Eurasian origin for hummingbirds before their American radiation, and Fiji iguanas plausibly arrived by long-distance rafting; both histories retain uncertainty
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What the pattern means: Hummingbirds evolving in Eurasia before surviving only in the Americas, and iguanas rafting to Fiji, get grouped with a reply adding marsupials and lemurs as further lineages that thrived somewhere new after vanishing from their origin continent.

What commenters described: hummingbirds first evolved in Eurasia, spread to the Americas, then went extinct everywhere else. Also how iguanas are in Fiji because they rafted there from North America

Cephalopods extensively edit RNA, and some editing is temperature-responsive; this does not rewrite their inherited DNA
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What the pattern means: Two nearly identical comments both reach for the 'rewriting their own code' framing of octopus RNA editing, treating real-time temperature adaptation as proof the animals feel more alien than terrestrial.

What commenters described: octopuses can edit their own RNA in real time to adapt to temperature changes. Like their bodies literally rewrite instructions on the fly.

A genealogical ancestor may contribute no detectable DNA to a present-day descendant
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What the pattern means: The exponential math of ancestry gets spelled out directly here: doubling parents each generation back means that within roughly ten generations, some genealogical ancestors will have passed on literally none of their genes to you.

What commenters described: in as little as 10 generations back, it's very likely that at least one of your ancestors has contributed 0 genes to you.

Race is a poor biological proxy for human genetic variation, while genetic ancestry can still show population structure
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What the pattern means: The genome-project talking point that race is pseudoscience gets backed with a specific figure—about 94 percent of human variation sits within so-called racial groups—while a second commenter adds that Italy's own curriculum already treats the concept as outdated, though not without lingering pushback.

What commenters described: Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups.

Limit: Race concept is extremely outdated here in Italy... I still got told it's bad to see it that way, I can genuinely understand that point of view, but I disagree

A protective PRNP variant was selected in the Fore population exposed to kuru
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What the pattern means: A genetic-immunity fact about the Fore population gets tied to its dark historical cause, with a commenter noting that surviving cannibalism-linked prion exposure is itself the selective pressure believed to have spread the protective mutation.

What commenters described: Deep in our past, a large enough portion of our ancestors practiced cannibalism that selection favored those who could survive it

Acetaminophen and general anesthetics have characterized targets and effects, though neither has one complete unified mechanism
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What the pattern means: Tylenol gets lumped in with general anesthesia as another everyday drug whose mechanism is only partially mapped, with a reply distinguishing 'knowing the receptor interactions' from actually knowing why unconsciousness results.

What commenters described: We don't know how Tylenol or anesthesia works. We just know that it does and are hopefully using it correctly.

Cardiomyocytes can beat spontaneously in culture when pacemaker currents and electrical coupling generate rhythmic activity
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What the pattern means: Commenters describe the eerie experience of watching a single heart cell keep contracting rhythmically in a petri dish with no brain or nerve signal telling it to.

What commenters described: take a cardiac cell out of your body, put it in a dish, and it keeps rhythmically contracting. It doesn't need a brain signal. It just... knows.

A 2026 study argued that Prototaxites taiti was neither a crown fungus nor plant and may represent an extinct eukaryotic lineage; that does not yet establish a formal new kingdom for every Prototaxites fossil
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What the pattern means: A second Prototaxites thread leans on the sheer height—up to 25 feet—and repeats that the fossils no longer fit fungus, plant, or animal classification, framing an entire vanished lineage as genuinely singular.

What commenters described: 20+ft tall spires called Prototaxites dominated the earth. They were not plants, animals, or fungi.

Dog domestication was underway by at least roughly 11,000 years ago and cannot by itself explain Neanderthal disappearance
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What the pattern means: A theory crediting human-canine bonding for outcompeting Neanderthals gets timeline-checked by a reply pointing out that behaviorally modern humans and Neanderthal extinction both predate the roughly 25,000-year dog-bonding estimate by a wide margin.

What commenters described: our ability to bond with animals for exceeded any of the other homo species. Specifically our strong bond with canines allowed us to overpower competition.

Limit: by 25k they were already in place. The neandertals were gone, humans were already everywhere... domestication came around long after we were well on our way to what we are now

Persistence hunting is documented in some human societies, while its importance in early Homo evolution remains debated
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What the pattern means: Persistence hunting gets explained as outlasting rather than outrunning prey, framed around the image of an exhausted antelope that a human tracker can eventually just walk up to and finish off.

What commenters described: We are persistence predators!

Canine transmissible venereal tumour is an ancient clonal cancer lineage, not a newly evolved dog species
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What the pattern means: The image of a cancer that jumped between dogs thousands of years ago and is still spreading gets described almost like an infection, with commenters distinguishing it from virus-caused tumors as literal transplanted cancer cells dodging each new host's immune system.

What commenters described: these cancer cells were able to jump to another dog. Because dogs are fairly inbred it was able to evade the second dog's immune system and begin growing again

Some learned associations in caterpillars can persist after metamorphosis
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What the pattern means: The claim that caterpillar memories survive metamorphosis gets more unsettling once a reply describes what happens inside the chrysalis: the body dissolving into enzyme soup before a rebuilt brain somehow keeps the old associations.

What commenters described: Carerpillars form memories that not only last through pupation into a butterfly, but can be passed on to their offspring for at least three generations.

A male-specific AMH copy on Y5 is the leading candidate sex-determining gene.
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What the pattern means: Buried inside a broader platypus fact-dump, one detail stands out: they lack the SRY gene most mammals rely on for sex determination and instead were only recently found to carry AMH on their oldest sex chromosome.

What commenters described: we've recently discovered that they do have a gene called AMH, which is another gene that contributes (but does not initiate) sex determination in mammals.

Limit: Until very recently we didn't know how sex determination worked in platypus

Modern monotremes have electroreception; claiming platypus and echidna evolved it entirely independently is not established.
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What the pattern means: The same fact-dump treats electroreception as the more approachable oddity, noting platypuses and echidnas are two of only three mammal lineages with the sense and appear to have evolved it separately despite sharing the same trigeminal nerve pathway.

What commenters described: the platypus and echidna... evolved the sense entirely separately from any other animal; the nerve that goes to the electroreceptors in their bill is the trigeminal nerve

Peacock mantis-shrimp strikes occur underwater and generate both direct impact and cavitation-collapse forces.
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What the pattern means: A reply adds a physical constraint most people miss about the mantis shrimp punch: it happens underwater against real drag, which is exactly why aquarium keepers can't safely house them in ordinary glass tanks.

What commenters described: Mantis shrimps can *punch through glass*.

In xenoparity, M. ibericus queens produce M. structor males without transmitting maternal nuclear DNA; “eggs with no genes” is corrected because the eggs are not literally devoid of all genetic material.
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What the pattern means: A single ant fact escalates into something genuinely strange: some Messor ibericus queens have found a way to clone the males of a completely different species just to keep a captive mate supply inside their own colony.

What commenters described: some populations have found a way to clone structor males over and over again to mate with.

Messor ibericus queens require Messor structor sperm to produce hybrid workers and some populations maintain cloned M. structor male lineages inside their colonies.
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What the pattern means: The same colony fact gets a second read focused on mechanics over shock value: hybrid Messor ibericus workers only exist because queens keep that cloned Messor structor male line around specifically to fertilize the right eggs.

What commenters described: Messor ibericus queens can effectively produce eggs with no genes, so when the structor male fertilizes them it makes another structor male.

“Sharks are older than trees” compares the shark evolutionary lineage with the earliest trees, not the age of an individual shark or one unchanged species.
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What the pattern means: A short reply concedes the point about semantics while still defending the shark-versus-tree comparison, arguing an implicit 'as a species' clause is obvious even to a listener nitpicking the wording.

What commenters described: Well yes sharks as a species, but I think he's talking about specific sharks

Mutation supplies heritable variation without arising because an organism needs a particular adaptive outcome; natural selection differentially preserves variants that affect reproduction.
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What the pattern means: Explaining a bird-mimicking flower, one commenter insists on the unglamorous mechanism first: random mutation followed by differential pollination success, not any flower 'deciding' to look bird-like.

What commenters described: Evolution isn't by design, it's throwing random shit at a wall, billions upon billions of times and seeing what sticks.

The specific story that a bird-shaped flower arose through repeated bird pollination is an illustrative just-so narrative unless a species and evidence are identified.
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What the pattern means: The same step-by-step story of an increasingly convincing bird-mimicking flower reads more like a hypothetical illustration of natural selection than a documented case, since no actual species or flower is ever named.

Limit: Evolution as we're taught it in schools, generally ignores the random generation part but it is super duper important.

The proposal that sex evolved to purge genomic parasites is one evolutionary hypothesis, not an established account of why sex first evolved
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What the pattern means: The idea that sex first evolved to scrub viral parasites out of genomes gets a memorable analogy: a malware scanner that deletes half your hard drive and gambles that a stranger's copied half isn't infected either.

What commenters described: Sex is like a malware scanner that just deletes half your hard drive, copies half of someone else's hard drive, and hopes their half doesn't have the malware on it.

COVID-19 is a clear example of viral evolution and differential human health outcomes, but the comment provides no evidence that it recently selected human intelligence.
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What the pattern means: A commenter reaches for COVID-19 as proof that natural selection is still favoring human intelligence, though the reasoning skips over how that connection would actually be demonstrated.

What commenters described: Covid was one recent example. Adaptable intelligence is and always has been a key driver of human evolution.

Molecular, morphological, and ecological evidence supports an amphibious or semiaquatic ancestry for echidnas.
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What the pattern means: A reply pushes the platypus rabbit hole further into echidnas, describing their ancestors as similarly aquatic predators whose proto-bill eventually became the anteater snout, and adding that early mammal relatives were likely venomous before most lineages lost it.

What commenters described: Echidnas, the spiky anteater closely related to them? It's ancestors were also similar to platypuses. As in they were aquatic predators with a proto-bill

The assertion that all mammals were originally venomous is not established; monotreme venom evolution does not demonstrate universal ancestral mammalian venom.
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What the pattern means: The same comment's leap to 'all mammals were originally venomous' goes well beyond what monotreme venom actually demonstrates about mammals as a whole.

Limit: the early mammalforms were venomous too. That all mammals were originally venomous before we lost it.

Surinam toad embryos develop in chambers embedded in the mother's dorsal skin and emerge as froglets
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What the pattern means: A short, visceral reaction to embryos developing directly in a mother toad's back skin captures the reader's own physical discomfort more than the biology itself.

What commenters described: It made me very itchy and uncomfortable.

Evolutionary theories generally explain aging through weakening selection at later ages and trade-offs, not a simple programmed feature of “automatic death.”
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What the pattern means: A commenter treats the existence of species that never seem to age toward death as evidence that programmed mortality is itself a selected trait, rather than the more standard view that selection simply weakens with age.

What commenters described: A whole lineup of creatures simply has no feature of aging towards death.

Complex eyes evolved independently multiple times, but “about 11 times” is not a stable consensus count because deep genetic homology changes how origins are defined.
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What the pattern means: A single-line comment drops the '11 independent origins of the eye' figure as settled fact, though the actual count shifts depending on how deep genetic homology between eye types gets weighted.

What commenters described: Eyes have evolved independently about 11 times, so far as we know.

Whales evolved from terrestrial even-toed ungulates; early cetaceans such as Pakicetus were wolf-sized shoreline mammals, not securely 'raccoon-sized' ancestors of every whale
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What the pattern means: The whale-from-a-raccoon-sized-land-mammal claim gets stated flatly here without qualification, compressing a longer chain of early cetacean transitional forms into one memorable size comparison.

What commenters described: Whales came from a land dwelling mammal the size of a raccoon.

COVID-19 mortality has been strongly concentrated among older adults, so selection through deaths after reproduction would be limited; however, age distribution alone does not rule out evolutionary effects through fertility, morbidity, or deaths at younger ages.
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What the pattern means: A reply questions whether COVID-19 really works as an evolution example, pointing out that the median age of death falls well after most people have already had children, which would blunt any selection pressure through fertility.

What commenters described: they just have to make it long enough to have kids, and the median age of covid deaths is well after most people start having a family

Leaf-cutter ant genomes show loss of genes in arginine biosynthesis and dependence on fungal-cultivar nutrition; saying they cannot make “several amino acids key to all life” is broader than the cited genomic evidence.
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What the pattern means: A comment on leaf-cutter ants stacks two dependency facts together: the ants lost the ability to make several amino acids because their fungal cultivar supplies them, and they evolved elaborate waste-management behavior to protect that fungus garden from contamination.

What commenters described: they literally can't produce several amino acids key to all life anymore, because they get it all from the fungus... they invented a complex set of behaviours to minimise fungal contamination

Somatic-cell nuclear transfer can reprogram some cancer-cell nuclei in animal experiments, but “fixing all oncogenes” would not be enough to clone a deceased human: cancer genomes contain many other lesions, reprogramming can fail, and human reproductive cloning remains unperformed and ethically prohibited in many settings.
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What the pattern means: A hypothetical about cloning a decades-dead person from banked cancer cells treats fixing every oncogene and swapping the nucleus as basically the whole problem, when in practice cancer genomes carry far more damage than that framing suggests.

What commenters described: technically we could fix all the oncogenes, extract the nucleus and swap it on a fertilized egg and basically clone someone dead decades ago.

Limit: (Extremely challenging and unethical, but the DNA is there)

State-specific claims about deaths and philosophical exemptions cannot be verified without identifying the state; exemption rules vary by jurisdiction.
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What the pattern means: A commenter's account of measles deaths in their community stays vague about which state it happened in, so the specific claim about that state's philosophical vaccine exemption can't actually be checked against local policy.

What commenters described: My state offers "philosophical belief" exemptions for vaccinations.

Limit: No one in my state died from recent measles outbreaks, but I have little doubt resulting vaccine skepticism played a role in other areas

The 2025 U.S. measles resurgence was concentrated in communities with low vaccination coverage; 96% of early reported cases were unvaccinated or had unknown status, and three deaths were reported.
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What the pattern means: The same commenter connects a personal loss to the 2025 measles resurgence, describing deaths among unvaccinated young people in their area as part of a trend traced back to pandemic-era vaccine distrust spilling into routine childhood shots.

What commenters described: we had some younger people pass in our area - people who had children and some young enough to potentially have children if they so choose.

Evolution has not stopped: mutation, selection, drift, and gene flow continue in living populations, and speciation is an ongoing population process that can be observed at different stages; 150 years is short for many lineages but rapid evolutionary change also occurs.
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What the pattern means: Pushing back on 'evolution has stopped,' a commenter compares human observation of the last 150 years to only watching a car's badge get attached at the very end of a much longer manufacturing process.

What commenters described: That's just not true. Evolution isn't done. It's just we're viewing it on a human time scale, more specifically, the last 150 years or so.

Turritopsis dohrnii can reverse from a mature medusa toward a juvenile polyp stage under stress, enabling repeated life-cycle renewal in principle—not guaranteed immortality
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What the pattern means: The 'immortal jellyfish' claim is dropped here as a straightforward fact, with a link doing the work of explaining a species that can theoretically cycle back to a juvenile stage indefinitely.

What commenters described: There's a species of jellyfish that can theoretically live forever.

Later work emphasizes that identifying the historical founder of such a Y-lineage requires ancient DNA or comparison with certified descendants.
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What the pattern means: A commenter repeats the widely circulated figure that some 16 million living people descend from Genghis Khan, treating it as settled without addressing how such a founder is actually identified in the genetic record.

What commenters described: they believe that around 16 million people today, are decendants of him.

“At least 40 independent eye origins” is a classic morphology-based estimate, but deep homology of phototransduction and developmental genes makes a single exact count definition-dependent.
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What the pattern means: A commenter reduces every eye on the planet to the same starting point—a patch of light-sensitive cells—before noting that basic setup independently reappeared upwards of 40 times across the tree of life.

What commenters described: they've *independently* evolved something like 40+ times. But every one of them started with just a patch of cells that triggered some chemistry when light hit them.

Whether a simple directional light-sensing pit counts as an eye depends on the operational definition; eye-evolution literature often uses broad definitions based on directional photoreception.
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What the pattern means: A commenter flags that whether a simple light-versus-dark sensing pit even counts as an 'eye' comes down entirely to how loosely the word gets defined.

What commenters described: That does depend how broadly you define the word "eye" though. A sensory pit that can only determine "light" or "no light" could be considered an eye

Honey-bee workers preferentially remove worker-laid eggs, and experiments link discrimination to differences in egg-surface hydrocarbons associated with queens and workers; this is chemical recognition, not direct genetic measurement.
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What the pattern means: Explaining how honeybee colonies police worker-laid eggs, a commenter describes queen-specific chemical markers acting like an ID card that gets checked before an egg survives, before admitting some parasites still manage to fool the system by unknown means.

What commenters described: they look for queen specific chemical markers and if an egg doesn't have them, nom nom nom.

Limit: some parasites do manage it. We aren't entirely sure how.

Most bee species are solitary, unlike the highly social honey bee familiar from managed colonies; ants, by contrast, are eusocial colony-forming insects, so the broad contrast is sound even though “poor socialites” is rhetorical.
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What the pattern means: The same aside flips a common assumption about social insects, noting roughly 90 percent of bee species are actually solitary while no ant species is, making bees the outlier and ants the more thoroughly social lineage.

What commenters described: there are no solitary species of ant for example, while 90% of bee species are solitary.

Bumblebees can socially learn a difficult two-step task, but one experiment does not establish open-ended cumulative culture
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What the pattern means: A recent bumblebee experiment gets framed as evidence of 'watch and learn' behavior, with the commenter explicitly noting that social learning at this level is unusual for non-vertebrate animals, most of which run largely on instinct alone.

What commenters described: It was just recently discovered that bumblebees can "watch and learn". This indicates higher abstraction ability in the insect world than previously thought.

Neisseria meningitidis can use temperature-responsive gene regulation during the transition from carriage to invasion
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What the pattern means: A detailed comment explains how meningitis-causing bacteria normally live harmlessly in the nose but exploit a fever from an unrelated illness, using the temperature shift as a cue to disguise their surface and dodge the immune response searching for it.

What commenters described: When the person gets sick with something else that causes an immune response, their temperature raises and white blood cells come searching for things that aren't human cells to kill them.

Paleontologists conventionally recognize five Phanerozoic mass extinctions with roughly 75% or more species loss, while current human-driven losses may be an incipient sixth rather than a completed threshold event
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What the pattern means: The five-mass-extinctions framing is stated plainly here with a 75-percent species-loss threshold attached, and the commenter frames current human-driven losses as a possible sixth in progress rather than a settled label.

What commenters described: We...might be causing a 6th mass extinction right now.

Octopus Hox genes are dispersed rather than kept in the compact ancestral cluster seen in many animals, but they are not randomly placed and this does not make octopuses biologically alien
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What the pattern means: A commenter builds on the idea of homeobox genes as a body-plan blueprint by pointing out that octopuses scattered those same genes across their chromosomes instead of keeping them in the tight order seen in humans and flies.

What commenters described: Octopuses have these genes randomly distributed across

Genes have no intent; “selfish gene” language is shorthand for differential replication and selection, and genetic fitness is measured through reproductive transmission rather than an individual gene consciously benefiting.
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What the pattern means: One commenter frames genes as tiny parasites indifferent to a host's suffering—willing to build cancer-fighting cells or, in horsehair worms' case, drive a host to drown itself—as long as the gene gets copied forward, while flagging the framing itself as metaphor rather than literal intent.

What commenters described: If that means forcing it to jump into water and drown, that's what it will do (horsehair worms do this).

Limit: Obviously any mention of intent or direct action is a metaphor for the evolutionary process. It's a useful shorthand, but no more than that.

Mitochondria descend from a bacterial endosymbiont, as supported by organellar and nuclear-gene phylogenies; this was one ancient endosymbiotic origin, not merely a modern parasite strategy repeating twice.
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What the pattern means: The same comment reaches for mitochondria as its clearest real-world example of a gene-level takeover, describing them as once-independent microorganisms absorbed into ancestral cells and now permanently entwined as an internal power supply.

What commenters described: Mitochondria are thought to originally be micro-organisms that got absorbed into cells of other pre-historic organisms and formed a kind of mutualism.

Some yeast prions can produce heritable adaptive traits
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What the pattern means: Amid a broader explanation of prion disease, one detail flips the usual scary framing: the URE3 prion actually helps yeast survive in nitrogen-poor environments, making it a rare example of a prion doing something useful.

What commenters described: The URE3 prion makes it so that yeast can grow in nitrogen poor environments.

Calling monotremes an otherwise extinct “body plan” is imprecise: they are a surviving mammalian clade with both conserved ancestral traits and their own derived adaptations.
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What the pattern means: A commenter describes monotremes as a pocket of an 'otherwise extinct body plan' that kept quietly going while other mammal lineages diversified into thousands of species, a framing that flattens a surviving branch into something closer to a living fossil.

What commenters described: That one pocket of an otherwise extinct body plan basically kept quietly chugging along while their therian mammal counterparts exploded into thousands.

HeLa cells are a famous cross-contaminant that can outgrow and replace another culture, causing the contaminated culture to be mistaken for the original; they do not literally convert the original cells into HeLa genetically.
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What the pattern means: A commenter notes HeLa cells are infamous specifically for colonizing and overtaking other lab cultures, which is why contaminated cell lines have repeatedly been mistaken for something else entirely.

What commenters described: HeLa cell cultures have been known to colonize other cultures and convert them

Monotremes diverged from the therian lineage roughly 166–187 million years ago and today have only platypus and echidna lineages, while therians diversified into thousands of living species.
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What the pattern means: The same monotreme comment adds a number to the split: their lineage broke off from other mammals well over 150 million years ago, then stayed down to just two living species while the rest of the mammal tree exploded outward.

What commenters described: Its fascinating how early monotremes seemed to have split off the the rest of mammals.

Living platypuses are not evolutionary templates or “primitive” mammals; like every living lineage, they combine ancestral characters with specialized derived traits.
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What the pattern means: A reply pushes back on calling the platypus's features 'primitive,' arguing the soft electroreceptive bill and beaver-adjacent tail are basal traits its lineage simply kept because they still worked, not leftover parts borrowed by ducks and beavers.

What commenters described: the platypus bill is soft, leathery, and packed with electroreceptors, not a hard keratin beak... their traits aren't primitive, they're basal mammalian

Monotremes share a more recent common ancestor with therian mammals than with birds; many core mammalian traits predate the monotreme–therian split, while some lineage-specific features evolved independently.
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What the pattern means: A commenter corrects a mixed-up framing directly, clarifying that monotremes share a more recent common ancestor with other mammals than with birds, even though a few of their traits did evolve convergently with bird-like features.

What commenters described: Monotremes are mammals, and mammary glands etc are ancestral to them.

Platypuses are not the template from which ducks or beavers were remixed; all are modern lineages descended from different common ancestors, and platypus traits include both retained and newly evolved features.
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What the pattern means: Doubling down on the earlier point, a commenter insists platypuses are 'the template, not the remix,' arguing their electroreceptive, egg-laying traits predate ducks and beavers as concepts rather than the other way around.

What commenters described: They've been doing their electroreceptive, egg-laying, venom-spur thing since before ducks or beavers were even concepts.

Resemblance to duck bills and beaver tails should not be read as borrowed parts, but the reply’s chronological claim that ducks and beavers simply evolved platypus parts later is an unsupported simplification.
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What the pattern means: That same reply's specific chronological claim—that ducks and beavers literally evolved platypus-adjacent parts later—goes beyond what convergent evolution actually establishes about which lineage came first.

Limit: It's all convergent evolution, not borrowed parts.

The implicit category should be a broad evolutionary lineage, not “a species”: modern shark species did not persist unchanged from before trees evolved.
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What the pattern means: A commenter defends the shark-versus-tree comparison as obviously shorthand for lineages, arguing there's an implicit 'as a species' clause that any listener should reasonably infer.

What commenters described: Semantics. There is an implicit ", as a species,' clause here which is fairly obvious.

Mitochondrial DNA is usually maternally inherited in humans and most mammals, but people do not all have identical mitochondria and the rule is not universal across life
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What the pattern means: A French-language comment works through the maternal-inheritance rule for mitochondrial DNA out loud, landing on an open question about how far the 'same mitochondria' claim actually extends across mammals or all living things.

What commenters described: Lors de la fÊcondation, les mitochondries sont toujours celles de la mère.

The intended fact is evolutionary: shark lineages originated before the first trees, not that an individual shark predates an individual tree.
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What the pattern means: A commenter clarifies exactly what the shark-and-tree comparison is supposed to mean, distinguishing the correct evolutionary-lineage claim from the technically wrong but commonly assumed individual-organism reading.

What commenters described: The oldest tree is much older than the oldest shark. What you mean is, "sharks existed before trees".

BovB retrotransposons show evidence of horizontal transfer among distant vertebrate lineages, including cattle and snakes
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What the pattern means: A single link drops the surprising detail that BovB transposon sequences appear in both snakes and cattle, hinting at horizontal transfer between wildly distant vertebrate lineages without further explanation in the thread.

What commenters described: There's a lot of snake DNA in cows

Deleting regulatory DNA near Sox9 can produce XY mice with female reproductive development; this is not a near-term human sex-conversion treatment
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What the pattern means: The mouse sex-reversal finding gets an immediately anxious reaction, with the commenter jumping straight from a chromosome-editing result in mice to worrying about what it might mean for people next.

What commenters described: They can change sex in mice now despite chromosomes staying the same! So people are next D:

People demonstrably differ in color vision and color discrimination, including inherited cone differences, so their eyes do not always receive equivalent signals; whether two color-normal people have identical private qualia is a philosophical question not settled by shared color words.
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What the pattern means: A commenter argues the 'do we see the same colors' question is unresolvable even in principle, noting that people already differ measurably in color vision and that shared language for a color says nothing about shared private experience.

What commenters described: you don't know if you are colours the same way everyone else does. Your eyes get the same signal but how do you know for sure that the brain processes it the same way?

Schizophrenia is uncommon and highly polygenic; 22q11.2 deletion is a strong risk factor but not a single causal gene
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What the pattern means: A commenter overstates schizophrenia's prevalence while correctly naming the strongest known genetic risk factor, the 22q11.2 deletion behind DiGeorge syndrome, as still falling short of a single identified cause.

What commenters described: There are no known genes that cause it and the strongest correlation we have thus far is DiGeorge syndrome (deletion of 22q11.2)

South American tepuis are eroded table-top mountains whose isolated summits host many endemic lineages, but the vague story of one frog species looking completely different on five pillars is not verifiable as stated
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What the pattern means: A half-remembered story about frogs evolving differently on isolated mountain-top pillars gets told with visible uncertainty, the commenter admitting upfront they can't recall the exact mountain range or species involved.

What commenters described: One frog from Pillar 1 is the same species of frog from Pillar 5, but they look completely different.

Limit: I can't remember which mountain range, maybe South America... I'm probably not explaining

A 2023 demographic model inferred about 1,280 breeding human ancestors from roughly 930,000 to 813,000 years ago, but this is an effective-population estimate from a contested model, not a headcount of Homo sapiens
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What the pattern means: The 2023 demographic model's roughly 1,280-breeding-ancestor estimate gets compressed here into a stark near-extinction headline, skipping over the model's own caveats about what an effective population size actually measures.

What commenters described: Around 800000 years ago, the human breeding population was near 1280. Close to extinction.

A nearby gamma-ray burst has been proposed as a possible trigger for part of the Late Ordovician extinction roughly 440–445 million years ago through ozone depletion and increased ultraviolet exposure, but it remains a hypothesis rather than an established cause.
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What the pattern means: A commenter treats a proposed gamma-ray-burst trigger for a Late Ordovician extinction event as a settled cause, though the underlying hypothesis about ozone depletion and UV exposure remains just that: a hypothesis.

What commenters described: That might've caused a mass extinction on Earth ~445 million years ago.

Average measured body temperature has declined in some populations over historical time, but the cause and global generality remain uncertain
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What the pattern means: The claim that human body temperature has been dropping over generations gets an odd, half-joking extrapolation attached: that a cooler baseline could eventually let some fungus finally survive inside us.

What commenters described: there will be some kind of fungus that will survive in our bodies, and probably kill us off.

Environmental DNA reveals many poorly known aquatic taxa, but '90% unknown animals in seawater' is not a supported global estimate
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What the pattern means: A vivid description of scooping seawater and matching its genetic traces against everything known science has cataloged lands on a striking but unsupported round number: 90 percent unidentified.

What commenters described: 90% of the biological trace contents are from animals we have yet to discover...

Extinction events do not occur on a schedule, so humanity is not scientifically “overdue” for one.
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What the pattern means: A comment framing humanity as 'overdue' for an extinction event treats deep-time extinction risk as though it runs on a schedule, when the more defensible point buried in the same sentence is just that slow cosmic processes won't threaten us for many generations.

What commenters described: its distance to us is greater in scale so not fast enough to concern us for many generations.

Limit: humanity is kind of overdue for an extinction event anyway

Humans are placental mammals, whereas platypuses and echidnas are the living monotremes; monotremes split from the therian lineage leading to marsupials and placentals roughly 166 million years ago, but “oldest group” means earliest-diverging living lineage, not unchanged ancestors.
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What the pattern means: A commenter distinguishes humans as placental mammals from the monotreme lineage that split off well over 150 million years ago, framing platypuses and echidnas as the oldest surviving mammal group rather than unchanged ancestors of everything else.

What commenters described: We are placental mammals but they are monotremes. Oldest remaining group of mammals.

Terraforming remains a proposed long-term concept, not an active escape from a known impending human extinction event.
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What the pattern means: The same commenter's mention of actively terraforming other planets to escape extinction overstates where that technology actually stands, treating a decades-away concept as though it were already an operating contingency plan.

Limit: we're actively making efforts to figure out how to terraform other planets so that we can escape the impending extinction event

Tyrannosaur feet had soft pads around bones, but the claim that T. rex footsteps would be inaudible until very close is not established by fossils
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What the pattern means: A claim about T. rex footsteps being inaudible until it's practically on top of you gets stated with total confidence, attributing the effect to soft foot padding that fossils alone can't actually confirm.

What commenters described: You cannot hear T-rex footsteps until it's real close to you because of it's padded feets!

'Tree' is a repeatedly evolved growth form and 'fish' is paraphyletic in common usage, but plant and animal are still meaningful broad evolutionary group labels
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What the pattern means: A commenter argues 'tree' deserves the same skepticism usually reserved for 'fish,' calling both terms human shorthand for unrelated organisms rather than meaningful taxonomic categories on par with genus or species.

What commenters described: "tree" is also the same as "fish" - it's human shorthand for vast groups of totally unrelated organisims, not a meaningful biological term.

Adactylidium mites can develop one male and several females inside their mother, mate internally, and emerge by consuming her tissues
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What the pattern means: The Adactylidium mite's life cycle gets described almost step by step: siblings mating inside their mother, a single dedicated male doing nothing else before dying, and the surviving females eating their way out to start the cycle again.

What commenters described: they all eat the mother to get out into the world. In order for this to work, there is one male offspring in each group that does the impregnating, and then sits there doing nothing until it dies.

DNA in one nucleated human cell is about two metres long; body-wide Pluto comparisons depend heavily on cell-count assumptions
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What the pattern means: The Earth-to-Pluto-and-back DNA comparison gets dropped with genuine bafflement at how something that long could possibly be packed into cells invisible to the naked eye.

What commenters described: it would stretch from Earth to Pluto and back 68 times. All of that is packed inside cells you can't even see with the naked eye.

Evidence for controlled fire predates Homo sapiens, though exactly when hominins mastered habitual fire use remains debated
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What the pattern means: A commenter reframes 'humans discovered fire' as a misattribution, crediting an earlier hominin species with mastering controlled fire long before Homo sapiens existed at all.

What commenters described: an earlier hominin species mastered it long before Homo sapiens arrived.

Fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva causes progressive bone formation in muscles and connective tissues after developmental ACVR1 mutation
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What the pattern means: A detailed description of fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva walks through what 'stone man syndrome' actually means in practice: an ACVR1 mutation that turns the body's own soft-tissue repair process into unstoppable bone growth, with a life expectancy of only thirty to forty years.

What commenters described: results in every kind of body tissue (mainly muscular tissue) to regen into bone, via a process called "ossification". It's unavoidable

Gene drives bias inheritance and could spread engineered traits through wild populations, creating serious ecological governance questions
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What the pattern means: This entry is little more than the phrase 'gene drives' dropped as a topic marker, leaving the actual mechanism and its ecological stakes unexplained in the thread itself.

Human gut microbiomes collectively contain millions of nonredundant microbial genes—far more than the number of human protein-coding genes—but a gene-count comparison is not a measurement of total bacterial-versus-human DNA mass.
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What the pattern means: A commenter pushes the human-versus-microbial-DNA comparison further by weight rather than gene count, framing human DNA as almost negligible against the sheer mass of bacterial DNA carried in the gut.

What commenters described: Human DNA (which ultimately holds the rules for all our bodily processes) is negligible against the amount of bacterial DNA.

Living mammals share ancient ancestors, but they did not all descend from one known tiny shrew-like species living alongside dinosaurs
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What the pattern means: A sweeping claim that every mammal alive descends from one specific tiny shrew-like species that lived alongside dinosaurs compresses a much messier, branching ancestry into a single tidy origin story.

What commenters described: all mammals (no exceptions) came from a tiny shrew-like mammal that live along dinosaurs

Many bacteria coordinate gene expression using chemical quorum-sensing signals
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What the pattern means: This entry is a bare one-line statement that some bacteria coordinate behavior through chemical signals, with no further elaboration in the thread on how quorum sensing actually works.

What commenters described: Some bacteria communicate using chemical signals

Platypus electroreceptors are supplied by branches of the trigeminal nerve, but sharing a homologous cranial nerve with humans does not establish that human ancestors were electroreceptive; comparative evidence indicates electroreception evolved independently within monotremes.
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What the pattern means: A commenter asks the natural follow-up question after learning platypus electroreceptors run through the trigeminal nerve: whether that shared nerve means human ancestors might once have had the same sense, without getting an answer in the thread.

What commenters described: if the nerve that connects to their electro receptors is the same as ours, does that mean maybe we had that ability in the past?

Shark-like cartilaginous fishes appear in fossils more than 400 million years ago, whereas dinosaurs arose much later in the Mesozoic, so the shark lineage predates dinosaurs by well over 150 million years.
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What the pattern means: A short add-on to the sharks-versus-trees comparison notes sharks also predate dinosaurs by a wide margin, since cartilaginous fish fossils go back over 400 million years while dinosaurs arose much later in the Mesozoic.

What commenters described: Sharks are also older than dinosaurs. By a very wide margin.

Sponges are leading candidates for the earliest animal lineage, but the proposed 890-million-year-old sponge-like structures are disputed; the primary paper itself calls them “possible” body fossils and distinguishes them from much younger undisputed sponge fossils.
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What the pattern means: A commenter stacks sponges as the oldest known animal lineage on top of the sharks-and-trees comparison, though the specific 890-million-year-old sponge-like fossils being referenced are themselves described by their own researchers only as 'possible' body fossils.

What commenters described: the oldest "animal" is in fact Sponges! At around 800milliin years!

The free-fall evidence does not support a literal adrenaline-driven increase in visual “frame rate” or extra visual-cortex processing power; participants reported dilation afterward without improved temporal resolution during the event, while the detailed hormonal mechanism proposed here was not tested.
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What the pattern means: A commenter speculates that fear dumps extra processing power into the visual cortex during a life-threatening moment, then admits candidly that this cortisol-and-adrenaline mechanism is their own guess rather than something they've confirmed.

What commenters described: Brain detects fear, dumps cortisol and adrenaline, vasodilation, heightened perception and more brain power to visual cortex to perceive potential threats.

Limit: Idk if this is actually how it works but I imagine it is something similar.

The horseshoe-crab lineage extends back roughly 450 million years, predating the first forests and the earliest widely recognized shark fossils, although living species are not literally unchanged ancient individuals.
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What the pattern means: A commenter adds horseshoe crabs to the sharks-and-trees comparison, dating the lineage back roughly 450 million years and placing it before both the first forests and the earliest widely recognized shark fossils.

What commenters described: Horse shoe grabs as a species have existed since before the 1st tree ever existed, and in fact existed before sharks

Modern humans interbred with Neanderthals and Denisovans, but genomes do not reveal whether particular encounters were cooperative or coercive
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What the pattern means: Commenters push hard against the popular, almost romantic reading of 'interbreeding' with Neanderthals and Denisovans, with one bluntly noting that all the genome actually tells us is that the DNA is there — not whether it arrived through anything resembling consent.

Limit: 'Interbred' is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Always tickles me when I see the popular press assuming this was a nice process, like sapiens chicks just kinda dug those hunky neanderthal dudes... all we know about other Homo DNA in ours is that it's there, not how it got there.

Eyes and light-sensing organs evolved repeatedly, but exact origin counts depend on whether researchers count photoreceptors, image-forming eyes, or component co-option
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What the pattern means: One commenter's count of eight independent eye origins sits right next to another's flat insistence on at least forty, and the detailed walk-through of light-sensitive spot to pinhole camera to lens makes clear the discrepancy comes down to what exactly gets counted as a separate origin.

What commenters described: In unicellular organisms it's a light sensitive spot... that patch dips in to a photosensitive divot... deepens and encloses into a sphere and the opening narrows, creating a pinhole camera.

Homo heidelbergensis may be near the common ancestry of Neanderthals and modern humans, but it did not precede Homo erectus
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What the pattern means: Homo heidelbergensis gets described as the bigger-brained, fire-using, shelter-building 'quiet homie in the tent' who apparently lacked the vocal-cord changes needed for complex speech, framing it as a plausible shared ancestor rather than settling its exact place ahead of or behind Homo erectus.

What commenters described: They had larger brain cases then both of us... they didn't have the vocal chord change that is evidence of complex language and tone of voice.

Human Demodex folliculorum mites show reduced genomes and evidence consistent with close vertical transmission, often through maternal contact, but are not proven exclusively matrilineal
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What the pattern means: Three brief comments assert face mites pass from mother to child and can simply be removed, with nobody in the thread actually offering evidence that transmission runs exclusively through mothers rather than any close, sustained contact.

Humans continue to evolve, but natural selection does not universally “favor intelligence”; selection favors heritable traits that increase reproductive success in a particular environment.
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What the pattern means: Citing COVID adaptation as proof that natural selection 'favors intelligence' skips over the actual mechanism: selection tracks whatever traits raise reproductive success in a given environment, which isn't the same as steadily favoring smarts.

Limit: Natural Selection favors intelligence, and we as a species are still evolving.

Claims that humans share a fixed percentage of their genome with bananas, flies, or slugs depend on what is being compared
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What the pattern means: The confident '50% shared genome with bananas, flies, and slugs' claim gets stated without specifying what exactly is being measured, and the same comment quickly drifts into an unrelated aside about pandemic adaptation that muddies rather than supports the original figure.

Light-sensitive cells and simple eyespots preceded complex image-forming eyes, and spatial vision evolved gradually through photoreceptor, neural-circuit, and optical changes; the specific story that the first function was determining up versus down is only one proposed scenario, not an established universal sequence.
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What the pattern means: The commenter is careful to call the 'light sensitivity evolved to sense up versus down' story 'the prevailing theory,' which keeps it honestly framed as one proposed sequence for how early vision developed rather than a settled account everyone agrees on.

Simple eyes can consist of photoreceptors plus pigment or other structures that provide directional light information; lenses and focusing systems are later specializations in some lineages.
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What the pattern means: A single reply strips eyes down to their evolutionary essentials, arguing every eye ultimately started as nothing more than a patch of light-sensitive cells that happened to trigger useful chemistry, with lenses and focusing structures arriving later as add-ons — a design so effective it evolved independently more than 40 separate times.

What commenters described: eyes... evolved something like 40+ times... every one of them started with just a patch of cells that triggered some chemistry when light hit them

A recessed photoreceptor coupled with shielding pigment can provide directional information about incident light.
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What the pattern means: In a brief exchange, one commenter confirms that a photoreceptor cell sitting inside a small pit or recession, shielded by pigment, is directional — meaning even this stripped-down structure can tell an organism which way light is coming from long before anything like a lens evolves.

What commenters described: a photoreceptor cell in a recession? Those are directional.

Monotremes are mammals and Mammalia remains a monophyletic group containing monotremes, marsupials, and placentals; mammary glands and hair are shared mammalian traits.
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What the pattern means: A single careful correction pushes back on the idea that egg-laying should disqualify monotremes from being mammals, pointing to mammary glands and hair as the shared ancestral traits that keep the classification monophyletic.

Male platypuses have five X and five Y sex chromosomes arranged as a meiotic chain; the “extra seXY” wording is a joke.
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What the pattern means: This entire record is a single pun riffing on the real chromosome count, playing 'extra seXY' for a laugh rather than explaining anything about how the five-X, five-Y meiotic chain actually segregates.

A 2003 study estimated that a Y-chromosome lineage carried by about 0.5% of men worldwide originated in Mongolia roughly 1,000 years ago and may reflect Genghis Khan’s dynasty, but it did not prove that 16 million living people descend specifically from Genghis Khan.
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What the pattern means: The reply here states the widely circulated '16 million descendants' figure as settled fact, skipping past the detail that it comes from one 2003 genetic study of a shared Y-chromosome lineage rather than confirmed genealogical descent.

What commenters described: well Ghengis khan, did had a lot of children and decendants. they believe that around 16 million people today, are decendants of him.

Male platypuses carry five X and five Y chromosomes that form a meiotic chain, while females carry paired X chromosomes; sperm segregate the X set or the Y set rather than arbitrary mixtures, so the chromosome count does not imply that most platypuses have intermediate sexes.
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What the pattern means: A commenter takes the real five-X, five-Y chromosome count and pushes it toward a conclusion the biology doesn't support, that most platypuses fall somewhere between male and female, when meiosis actually sorts the full X set or Y set together each time.

Male platypuses have a chain of ten sex chromosomes.
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What the pattern means: A dense factual comment stacks up platypus oddities well beyond the sex-chromosome headline, noting the animal lacks the usual SRY sex-determining gene and instead relies on an AMH gene sitting on a chromosome more closely related to birds' ZW system than to typical mammal chromosomes.

What commenters described: The platypus has TEN sex chromosomes, so male platypus are XY XY XY XY XY... This suggests that there was separate, convergent evolution in monotremes and other mammals.

Platypuses lack the therian SRY sex-determining system.
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What the pattern means: The commenter zeroes in on what makes platypus sex determination genuinely unusual among mammals: the absence of the SRY gene that normally triggers testis development, replaced by a different, only partly understood gene called AMH.

What commenters described: They also lack the SRY gene, which in most other mammals is the key to sex determination... we've recently discovered that they do have a gene called AMH, which is another gene that contributes (but does not initiate) sex determination.

High Paleozoic oxygen likely influenced maximum insect size, while anatomy, ecology, and later aerial predators also constrained gigantism
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What the pattern means: Replies trace how the old 'thick prehistoric air made bugs huge' story has been undercut by newer arguments that Carboniferous insects were simply unchallenged by land vertebrates, not oxygen-supercharged.

What commenters described: Oxygen levels actually peaked at 30% to 35% during the Carboniferous Period... allowing for massive insects, including dragonflies such as Meganeuropsis permiana

Limit: The Lots Of Oxygen theory has recently been disproven, and it seems it was just lack of competition.

A low effective population size can increase drift and inbreeding risk without proving that all ancestors were close relatives in one group
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What the pattern means: Asked whether humanity's low genetic diversity means our ancestors were closely inbred, one reply clarifies that shuffling many small, temporarily isolated groups back together can produce the same effect without requiring close relatives to pair up.

What commenters described: You can get this effect by getting a bunch of little groups, gradually reducing their genetic diversity, then shuffling them back into the deck, so to speak.

Limit: judging by ancient mythology, it was probably a bunch of close inbreeding...

Fossil platypus relatives and juvenile living platypuses have teeth, whereas adults replace juvenile molars with keratinized pads.
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What the pattern means: A commenter recalls handling fossil platypus skulls in school that still had teeth, a trait modern adult platypuses lose in favor of keratinized pads.

What commenters described: We had fossil platypus skulls back in school that had teeth in them.

Inclusive-fitness evolution requires no foresight or intention: heritable behavior that increases sufficiently weighted reproduction by relatives can spread even when the actor does not recognize the genetic accounting; calling the eventual behavior “intentional” is anthropomorphic.
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What the pattern means: A commenter explains kin selection in ants without invoking any conscious awareness at all, describing how incidental help toward nieces gets selected for purely because it statistically favors shared genes across generations.

What commenters described: Eventually over the eons, those statistics result in the behavior becoming “intentional” and the sorts of colony structures we have now

The platypus is not evidence against evolution: comparative anatomy, fossils, and genome data place monotremes within Mammalia and explain their mixture of ancestral and lineage-specific traits.
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What the pattern means: A commenter uses the platypus as ammunition against both evolution and intelligent design at once, framing its odd trait combination as too strange for either explanation to fully own.

What commenters described: It doesn't seem possible for such a bizarre assortment of characteristics to have evolved naturally, yet whatever was doing the designing doesn't deserve the title "intelligent."

Honey-bee workers have much smaller ovaries than queens and are normally reproductively suppressed rather than anatomically sterile; when queen pheromone is absent, some workers activate their ovaries and lay unfertilized eggs.
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What the pattern means: A commenter corrects the assumption that worker honeybees are anatomically sterile, clarifying their ovaries are simply smaller and normally suppressed rather than absent or nonfunctional.

What commenters described: Their ovaries are greatly reduced in size compared to the queen's but they mostly still work

Kin-selected behavior does not require an insect to consciously calculate genetic similarity to every recipient: natural selection can favor behavioral rules that, in the population’s ecological structure, tend to benefit relatives enough to increase inclusive fitness.
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What the pattern means: A commenter voices skepticism that ants could possibly behave altruistically toward relatives without some way of consciously tracking genetic relatedness to every other ant.

What commenters described: That doesn't make any sense unless the ants have a way of knowing their genetic match with all other ants.

The claim that human DNA is negligible by mass relative to bacterial DNA is not supported by modern body-wide cell estimates: bacterial and human cell counts are of the same order, and most bacterial genomes are far smaller than the human genome.
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What the pattern means: A commenter repeats a striking claim that bacterial DNA vastly outweighs human DNA by mass in the body, treating it as proof of how much genetic material bacteria contribute compared to our own.

What commenters described: Human DNA... is negligible against the amount of bacterial DNA. That's to say we've got some strong genes here folks.

Humans have relatively low nucleotide diversity compared with several great-ape populations
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What the pattern means: Commenters are struck less by the diversity statistic itself than by its implication, that an outside species would likely see the whole human race as visually indistinguishable clones, the same way most of us can't tell grizzly bears apart.

What commenters described: the average troop of chimpanzees (Within the range of 20-100 chimps) have more genetic diversity than the entirety of humanity

A 2023 model inferred about 1,280 ancestral breeding individuals 930,000–813,000 years ago, but later work found insufficient evidence for such a sharp bottleneck
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What the pattern means: A grad student's story of driving his exhausted advisor home the night the bottleneck estimate was worked out gives this finding a human face, but a commenter with graduate statistics training flatly doubts a figure this precise (1,280) can come from that kind of modeling, and a later SciShow-sourced comment says the sharp bottleneck itself has since been questioned.

What commenters described: Was leaving around midnight and I found my advisor staggering down the hall just exhausted and flabbergasted... on the way he told me what they'd found. Was so gobsmacked I'm not sure I slept that night myself.

Limit: I've taken graduate level statistics and there is no way this kind of estimation is going to produce a really precise number.

Crab-like body plans evolved repeatedly, while claims that human-level intelligence evolved only once or is weakly selected are not testable as stated
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What the pattern means: The well-documented fact that body plans have convergently evolved into 'crab shape' dozens of times gets set right next to the far shakier claim that human-level intelligence only emerged once, which a reply stretches into speculation that intelligence might select against itself through war and greed — an idea with no way to test it.

Limit: Probably because intelligent beings are more likely to wipe out themselves because of petty reasons like borders & money — offered as speculation, not evidence.

The claim that 400 humans contain about one million unique structural differences is not supported as stated
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What the pattern means: The claim that 400 sampled humans contain about a million unique structural genomic differences gets used by the same commenter to argue a small ancestral population still matters for genetic diversity, without ever explaining how that headline number was actually derived.

The claim that the first human pelvis made birth nearly impossible is unsupported
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What the pattern means: The commenter's own 'correct me if I'm wrong' softens what would otherwise be a bold claim: that an early, too-small human pelvis made childbirth nearly fatal, offered as a half-remembered classroom fact rather than something they can point to a source for.

Elongated limbless 'worm-like' bodies evolved independently across many animal phyla, but most animals are not simply worms that added appendages
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What the pattern means: The single reply to this one is barely more than a shrug -- 'tubes ftw' -- treating the convergent evolution of limbless body plans as an amusing aside rather than something worth unpacking.

What commenters described: tubes ftw.

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Be careful with calling claims on the internet “facts”. Monotremes are mammals and the main characteristics are ancestral.

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This is true. Unfortunately, we had some younger people pass in our area - people who had children and some young enough to potentially have children if they so choose. The problem is the massive course correction concerning vaccines in general that spun from Covid. Covid vaccine denial has lead to miss trust of vaccination in general in several areas including mine. No one in my state died from recent measles outbreaks, but I have little doubt resulting vaccine skepticism played a role in other areas where deaths from measles occurred. It is the resulting vaccine skepticism that is of my greatest concern. Children often adopt their parent's views and beliefs. I know people who lost loved ones to Covid who are now on the anti-vax train; their children are faithfully aboard the train. My state offers "philosophical belief" exemptions for vaccinations. We are now all on the train. It may not be a problem NOW, but it could absolutely be a problem for future generations.

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I've taken graduate level statistics and there is no way this kind of estimation is going to produce a really precise number. Like, if you say, oh, it was 1300, you wouldn't chime in and say "Actually, it was 1310." I was just going by memory but "under 1000" and "around 1300" are functionally the same idea.

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The estimation is precise because the methods were precise. Additionally this number only represents the "pure" homo sapien lineages. It excludes ant population that bred with neanderthals or denisovans. The attached article is a good read if you like this sorta stuff. Link

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And all mammals (no exceptions) came from a tiny shrew-like mammal that live along dinosaurs

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The platypus is this category's most argued-over animal: roughly two dozen items work through its ten sex chromosomes, missing SRY gene, and 'primitive' reputation, with commenters repeatedly correcting each other toward the same point -- monotremes aren't a separate or ancestral experiment, they're mammals that kept some old traits and independently evolved a few bird-like ones. The next-most-common pattern is a viral one-liner about deep human or evolutionary history (crabs, sharks-older-than-trees, the Toba eruption, Neanderthal 'interbreeding') getting walked back by someone with firsthand expertise, like the grad student who watched his advisor stagger down a hallway at midnight after finally solving the mitochondrial-DNA math behind a human population bottleneck.

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Peritoneal dialysis uses the peritoneal lining as a semipermeable membrane: wastes move largely by diffusion and extra water by an osmotic gradient into prescribed dialysate.
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What the pattern means: One commenter walks through peritoneal dialysis like a bedside tutorial, describing how the abdominal lining works as a natural filter that lets waste diffuse from blood into dialysate the way flavor steeps out of a tea bag.

What commenters described: Much more gentle on the human body than hemo dialysis... So simple, and life saving

MRI metal risk depends on material, location, geometry, fixation, and scanner conditions; unknown fragments and devices require professional screening
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What the pattern means: Commenters trade real screening stories rather than abstract warnings: shrapnel and BB fragments found decades later, a piercing bar pulled for imaging, and one fatal case where a man walked into the scanner room wearing a metal chain against protocol.

What commenters described: Most non magnetic piercings should be fine... I still have two eyes and 20+ mri scans.

Limit: Screening isn't foolproof even when followed correctly — one commenter describes a supposedly metal-free silicone implant that in fact had a metal core and tore through the wearer's body during a scan.

Carrageenan is a seaweed-derived polysaccharide, and evidence that it clinically cross-reacts with alpha-gal remains inconclusive
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What the pattern means: People managing alpha-gal or carrageenan sensitivity describe the same daily grind: reading every ingredient label because the seaweed extract turns up unannounced in deli meat, chocolate caramels, and flavored gelatin.

What commenters described: It's in a lot of things that you would never guess... I have to read ingredients on everything. Deli meats, chocolate caramels, snack cakes, some flavored gelatin.

Limit: One commenter points out carrageenan sensitivity is common enough to cause real problems yet isn't required to be listed as an allergen the way peanuts are.

The Lacks family learned about HeLa research years later, and the case became a major bioethics example involving consent, privacy, recognition, and commercialization.
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What the pattern means: Bringing up HeLa cells surfaces one of research history's messier chapters: Henrietta Lacks's cells were harvested and became a scientific workhorse without her consent, and her family didn't learn any of it until decades after the fact, once commercialization was already underway.

What commenters described: The legendary 'HeLa' cells were taken without Henrietta's knowledge or permission, and her family was not informed until decades later, when her cells were being used in research and commercialized.

Limit: The commenter frames it as "a huge moral and ethical scientific scandal" rather than a clean triumph, given how long the family was kept in the dark.

Early zidovudine treatment gave this individual approximately forty additional years.
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What the pattern means: This is one person's story, not a trial result, but it's a striking one: an HIV-positive patient expected to die took an early zidovudine trial as what he assumed was a last resort and lived roughly forty more years because of it.

What commenters described: He was on what he thought was going to be his death bed, he took early anti-retrovirals trial of zidovudine, saved his life... They got him an extra 40 years.

AIDS mortality in Australia fell dramatically after effective combination therapy, but “people don’t die of AIDS anymore” is false as an absolute statement.
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What the pattern means: Someone recalls being told, almost in passing, that people don't die of AIDS anymore, looked it up out of disbelief, and confirmed the mortality drop was real, though only for Australia specifically, which is the qualifier attached to their own claim.

What commenters described: I remember being told 'you know people don't die of AIDS anymore, right?' I didn't know. So I looked it up, and it's true. (In Australia at least.)

Limit: The commenter's own parenthetical, "in Australia at least," keeps this from being the sweeping global claim it might otherwise sound like.

Peritoneal dialysis uses the peritoneum and dialysis solution to remove wastes
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What the pattern means: Patients and caregivers describing peritoneal dialysis focus less on the mechanism than on its lived texture — the fluid's weight when bending over, the sensation of it sloshing with certain movements, and a hospital worker's description of the sticky floor a leaked dialysate bag leaves behind. Several also noted that skipped hygiene steps, not the method itself, are what turn the routine into a hospitalization.

What commenters described: Somehow this works almost as well as a real kidney.

Limit: My mother caught an infection and developed sepsis on PD. She was careless with the hygiene protocalls.

MRI-related tattoo sensations are rare and usually transient; iron-containing ink is not the only proposed mechanism and routine tattoos are not an automatic contraindication
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What the pattern means: An MRI technologist's note about iron-based tattoo ink drew its own quick correction: a patient joking about wrapping a tattoo in lead got told that shielding logic doesn't apply, since MRI uses magnets and radio waves rather than x-rays. The same technologist described the actual workaround -- icepacks on standby, or skipping the scan when a tattoo's ink content is unknown and the imaging isn't essential.

What commenters described: We prefer our patients not be burned, and so far, they have all appreciated that.

Limit: Some lower quality tattoos use iron in the ink, which can burn the patient when it heats up from the scan.

Alpha-gal is present in most non-primate mammalian products; poultry, fish, reptiles, and eggs do not contain it, while dairy, gelatin, and other mammal-derived ingredients affect only some patients
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What the pattern means: People describing alpha-gal in their own families report wildly different thresholds -- one relative reacts only to beef, another can't tolerate dairy, a third has watched the allergy fade over years.

What commenters described: The 'pinker' it is, the worse I react. I've not had prosciutto in years... but I sneak in ribs, or a Chinese pork from time to time.

Limit: Severity varies by person and even by which mammal the meat comes from, so no single food list applies to everyone.

Rabies post-exposure vaccination effectiveness is uncertain at 80–100%
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What the pattern means: The uncertainty in rabies-vaccine efficacy comes down to a practical problem commenters keep circling: exposure itself is often unconfirmed, since the biting animal isn't always caught or tested.

What commenters described: im guessing its not practical to look at the patient's blood vs just giving the PEP. makes cents.

Limit: Because rabies travels through nerves rather than blood, standard blood testing can't easily confirm whether a bite was truly an exposure.

Reducing PrP expression can delay or prevent prion disease in animal research
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What the pattern means: The technical replies here walk through exactly how PrP knockout protects against prion disease -- no misfolded seed protein left to propagate -- while one commenter's anxiety detours into a hypothetical bioweapon scenario the research doesn't describe.

What commenters described: If you make a knockout animal that lacks PrP, they cannot get a prion disease, even if you give them large quantities of prions.

Limit: The knockout protection has so far been demonstrated in animals, and a reply's worry about engineered prion weapons is speculation, not a documented result.

Osteo-odonto-keratoprosthesis can restore useful sight in selected patients by using a tooth-root-and-bone lamina to support an artificial optical cylinder
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What the pattern means: Two short replies confirm the tooth-in-eye procedure step by step: the tooth is first grown in the cheek, then transplanted into the eye socket with a lens fitted inside it.

What commenters described: They take a tooth and first put it in the cheek, then when it has grown over they move it into the eye with an artificial lens inside the tooth.

Organ transplants have not been shown to transfer donor personality, tastes, fears, or autobiographical memories
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What the pattern means: Written in Spanish, the original post treats cellular memory in heart transplants as unsettling and only provisionally studied, while the reply defends it by pointing to donor DNA persisting in transplanted cells.

What commenters described: Hay casos de gente que recibe un corazon y hereda gustos o miedos del donante.

Limit: The original poster is explicit that this remains under scientific study rather than established, even while describing it as real.

Screened fecal microbiota therapies can prevent recurrent C. difficile infection after antibiotics, but they are not the universal treatment for every C. difficile episode
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What the pattern means: The exchange here is short and mostly funny, treating fecal transplants as both a legitimate C. difficile treatment and, jokingly, a viable side income for anyone with cooperative gut bacteria.

What commenters described: Yes I'd you have healthy poop you can make a decent paycheck from it!

Rabies post-exposure prophylaxis is supported by immunogenicity, animal studies and extensive human outcomes despite unethical placebo challenge trials
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What the pattern means: Both replies here lean into rabies' reputation for dread rather than data -- one flags that efficacy can't be cleanly measured since human trials are banned, the other just calls it 'real zombies.'

What commenters described: Rabies is pretty much real Zombies.

Limit: Vaccine success can't be tracked with precision since ethical rules prohibit human challenge trials and exposure itself is often just a guess.

Definitive animal rabies testing requires euthanasia and examination of brain tissue; healthy dogs, cats, and ferrets involved in exposures may instead be observed under public-health protocols.
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What the pattern means: The grim mechanics of definitive rabies testing get spelled out plainly here -- brain tissue examination requires euthanizing the animal -- alongside an explanation of why post-exposure vaccination can still work even after symptoms start their slow climb toward the brain.

What commenters described: to know for sure it's rabid they would have to cut off its head and examine its brain tissue

The copypasta exaggerates prevalence: rabies is globally important and common in some animal reservoirs, but human rabies is rare in the United States because of vaccination, surveillance, and PEP.
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What the pattern means: An elaborate horror-story copypasta about a rabies death dominates this record, built for maximum dread rather than accuracy about how common human rabies actually is in a country with routine PEP access.

What commenters described: It has a 100% kill rate.

Limit: The copypasta's tone implies rabies deaths are a constant, present danger, when routine vaccination and PEP access make human rabies rare in the US.

Kidney donation is not equivalent to storing a backup kidney: donors undergo permanent surgery and retain their remaining kidney, while future transplant access is conditional rather than guaranteed.
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What the pattern means: A kidney-donation PSA reframes the decision as a strategic trade rather than pure altruism, though the 'backup kidney' framing glosses over the fact that donation is permanent surgery, not something reversible.

What commenters described: by donating a kidney, it's almost like you're keeping a back up kidney safe somewhere

Limit: Future transplant priority is conditional on need, not a guarantee, and donation itself is irreversible surgery, unlike an actual stored backup.

Human pluripotent-stem-cell organoids and engineered tissues are used as preclinical models and may reduce reliance on some animal experiments, but they do not yet reproduce every whole-organism interaction.
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What the pattern means: A commenter marvels at stem-cell organoids replicating neurons, bone, and cardiac tissue on lab dishes, framing the technology mainly around its promise to cut costs and animal use in preclinical research.

What commenters described: Literally neurons talking to each other, bones, cardiac muscles, etc. All on plastic dishes and some also 3D.

Limit: These models reduce reliance on some animal experiments but don't yet reproduce every whole-organism interaction a living animal provides.

Gut microbes produce metabolites and interact with immune, endocrine, and neural pathways that can influence host physiology, but causal effects on complex human behavior remain an active research area.
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What the pattern means: A commenter lists a surprisingly long chain of effects tied to fecal transplants -- appetite, energy, depression, weight, acne, even enthusiasm for hiking -- while flagging some of that last item as possibly just a side effect of feeling better generally.

What commenters described: Fecal transplants have been shown to change people's appetite, energy level, mental health status (depression), weight loss, whether the person has acne

Limit: The commenter themselves suspects the hiking-preference effect might just be a downstream consequence of more energy or less depression, not a direct causal link.

Most human-associated bacterial cells are in the colon, but their total mass is only about 0.2 kg, so a person is not “roughly half” fecal material.
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What the pattern means: The same comment's 'roughly half of every person is shit' line trades on a cell-count statistic while ignoring that bacterial mass is only a tiny fraction of total body weight.

What commenters described: The vast majority of the 'foreign' cells live in your gut

Limit: Cell count and body mass are different measures; bacterial mass is only around 0.2 kg, nowhere near 'half' of a person by weight.

Immune recognition depends on histocompatibility antigens and immune status, and transplant recipients receive immunosuppression; saying every foreign tissue would be immediately detected is too absolute.
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What the pattern means: A long, careful reply walks through why cell-to-cell cancer transmission is so rare -- immune recognition of foreign cells -- while conceding examples that show the 'any tissue would be immediately detected' framing oversimplifies a self-recognition system that does sometimes fail.

What commenters described: It's extremely unlikely to get cancer from a cell of another person. It's harder than an organ transplant.

Limit: The reply's own examples -- autoimmune disease, blood as an exception -- show that immune self-recognition isn't the absolute, universal detection system the summary implies.

Magnetically guided photocatalytic microrobot swarms cleared bacterial biofilms in pig sinuses and infections in rabbits; they have not yet been shown safe and effective in humans
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What the pattern means: Magnetically steered microrobots small enough to fit up a nostril are described clearing infections in pig and rabbit models, framed here as still in active testing rather than an available treatment.

What commenters described: Swarms of tiny robots... can be made to march up people's noses and made to heat up and catalyse chemical reactions to clear sinus infections.

Limit: The post itself notes this is 'currently testing just now,' meaning it hasn't yet been shown safe and effective in humans.

Peritoneal dialysate is available in different fill volumes, osmotic agents, and strengths chosen for an individual prescription.
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What the pattern means: A dialysis patient's practical reply corrects an oversimplified 'one dialysate' assumption, noting real prescriptions vary by fill volume, osmotic agent, and concentration tailored to the individual.

What commenters described: There are actually different types and concentrations of dialysate based on the type of dialysis and the patient.

The hope that an artificial kidney will arrive within a decade is a personal forecast, not an established development timeline.
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What the pattern means: The same dialysis-patient reply ends on a personal hope rather than a data point -- wishing for meaningful artificial-kidney progress before their own transplant becomes necessary.

What commenters described: I'm still hoping they make significant progress on artificial kidneys in the next decade before I end up needing a transplant.

Limit: The decade timeline is a personal hope from someone living with the condition, not a cited development schedule from any research program.

An early trial found insulin independence in several people receiving deceased-donor islet transplants plus investigational tegoprubart immunosuppression; Eledon did not cure diabetes using patients' own cells
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What the pattern means: The claim gets compressed into something stronger than what actually happened, describing diabetes as 'cured' using a patient's 'own' islet cells when the underlying trial used deceased-donor islets plus an investigational immunosuppressant.

What commenters described: It's cured a small group of diabetics using their own islet cells!

Limit: The trial actually used deceased-donor islet cells with an experimental immunosuppressant, not the patients' own cells, and 'cured' overstates results better described as insulin independence in several participants.

Fecal microbiota-based therapies can reduce recurrent C. difficile after antibiotics in selected patients
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What the pattern means: The reaction here is pure gut-level disgust rather than engagement with the treatment itself, reduced to naming the procedure alongside a single vomiting emoji.

What commenters described: Fecal transplant for chronic C Diff infection

Reactive oxygen species contribute to molecular damage and signaling, but oxygen is not established as the single most important cause of aging, cancer, or every age-related disease
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What the pattern means: Commenters describe oxygen as a slow-burning poison corroding DNA over a lifetime, until one reply complicates the doom narrative by pointing out birds and aquatic animals evolved far better defenses against the same reactive molecules.

What commenters described: I always tell people that oxygen is literally poisoning us in a sense.

Limit: many animals are much better at dealing with this. Birds have much more efficient mitochondria that produce less reactive species

Human prion disease can be sporadic, genetic, or acquired
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What the pattern means: Replies stack statistics on how rare foodborne prion disease actually is next to a raw personal account of losing a friend to spontaneous Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, grounding an abstract risk in both data and grief.

What commenters described: Almost all prion disease arises spontaneously or from genetics. Its incredibly rare for it to occur from eating prion containing tissue.

Anti-USAG-1 antibodies have regenerated or promoted teeth in animal models and entered an early human clinical program for congenital tooth agenesis, but they have not proved arbitrary adult tooth, limb, or tissue regrowth
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What the pattern means: A question about gene-edited limb regrowth gets redirected toward the real mechanism—flipping a methylation switch rather than rewriting DNA—then tempered by a note that US research funding cuts are already slowing the pipeline that would turn lab results into treatment.

What commenters described: an antibody injection to capture and sequester the protein USAG1, which results in bone morphogenesis protein and Wnt-1 signaling turning back on, regrowing teeth in empty spots in the mouth.

Limit: American science is hitting a funding wall right now... which reduces the number of students admitted to graduate programs or workers hired to research cores

General anaesthetics have known molecular and network effects, while the full account of unconsciousness and awareness remains incomplete
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What the pattern means: Commenters settle on an unsettling admission: anesthesiologists can reliably produce unconsciousness without anyone fully knowing why it works, with one comparing the field to art rather than settled science.

What commenters described: Anesthesia is more an art than a science.

Bacteria can exchange antibiotic-resistance genes through conjugation, transformation, and phage-mediated transduction, accelerating resistance spread
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What the pattern means: The bacterial DNA-swapping fact gets framed less as a curiosity and more as a source of dread, with the commenter naming antibiotic resistance directly as why it worries them.

What commenters described: This is horrifying since it makes the prevention of antibiotic resistence extremely challenging.

A 1988 case report described terminating one patient's intractable hiccups with digital rectal massage; it is not a validated general cure
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What the pattern means: The Ig Nobel-winning hiccup cure gets treated mostly as comic material, with one commenter imagining the exact conversation a doctor would have had to have before trying the proposed treatment on a patient.

What commenters described: digital rectal massage... cured a case of intractable hiccups in a patient.

A 2020 mouse study replaced half of old plasma with saline containing 5% albumin—not saline alone—and reported improved muscle repair, reduced liver pathology, and increased hippocampal neurogenesis.
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What the pattern means: A young-blood rejuvenation study gets described with real vampire-story flair before a plainer explanation follows: a saline replacement produced similar effects, suggesting old kidneys simply weren't clearing out accumulated cellular debris as well.

What commenters described: they did an experiment on rats - they replaced a portion of the blood with that of younger rats. as a result, the rats started acting younger - real vampire vibes.

Limit: another researcher replicated it, but with saline. same/similar results.

U.S. kindergarten MMR coverage declined from 95.2% in 2019–2020 to 92.5% in 2024–2025, leaving pockets vulnerable to measles outbreaks; this trend is documented, though attributing it solely to COVID-vaccine denial is not established by the comment.
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What the pattern means: Beyond the anecdote, the underlying worry runs generational: the commenter notes children tend to inherit their parents' vaccine views, meaning a coverage dip in one generation could compound into a bigger outbreak risk for the next.

What commenters described: Children often adopt their parent's views and beliefs... their children are faithfully aboard the train.

Choosing HIV over diabetes is an individual clinician’s subjective comparison, not a general medical ranking.
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What the pattern means: A former HIV clinic worker recalls their chief doctor's blunt personal ranking—choosing HIV over diabetes any day—as a measure of how far treatment has come since HIV was seen as an automatic death sentence.

What commenters described: if she had to choose between HIV and diabetes, she would pick HIV any day.

Induced pluripotent stem cells can be generated from adult cells without using an embryo and directed into many specialized cell types, including neurons and heart-muscle cells; “anything” is an overstatement because differentiation and maturation remain technically constrained.
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What the pattern means: A commenter marvels at pluripotent stem cells being coaxed into neurons, bone, and heart muscle on plastic dishes, adding that the real-world payoff of this work is mostly reducing cost and animal use in preclinical research.

What commenters described: they're taking human pluripotent stem cells (not from embrio so it's allowed) and making anything out of it. Literally neurons talking to each other, bones, cardiac muscles

Claims that HIV was expected to threaten the human species are unquantified recollections and should not be presented as scientific forecasts.
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What the pattern means: A recollection of HIV being feared as a species-level threat is offered as personal memory rather than as any kind of measured forecast, which is exactly the limit of what the comment can support.

What commenters described: Some people thought it would threaten us as a species, and those who admitted having the disease were treated like lepers.

Cancer is generally not contagious because another person’s cells are usually rejected, but donor-origin cancer transmission can rarely occur through organ or tissue transplantation; it is not limited to the original cancer patient.
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What the pattern means: A detailed answer to 'can cancer spread between people' lands on a narrow exception: it's essentially only possible through organ or tissue donation, since a stranger's cancer cells still get flagged and rejected by the recipient's own immune system.

What commenters described: It's extremely unlikely to get cancer from a cell of another person. It's harder than an organ transplant.

Limit: This was quite a sensitive topic decades ago, people thought cancer could be contagious and cancer patients where somewhat isolated

Gene therapies can improve vision in selected inherited retinal diseases, but the claim that blindness was reversed by injecting a fish gene is unsupported or misidentified
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What the pattern means: The claim of reversing blindness with an injected fish gene is stated as a headline fact with no further detail on which condition, patients, or study is actually being referenced.

What commenters described: Scientists have discovered a treatment to reverse some forms of blindness by using and injecting into the eye a gene from a fish.

Immortal cancer cells generally maintain telomeres through telomerase or, in a substantial minority of telomerase-negative lines and tumors, through alternative lengthening of telomeres (ALT); “hyperactive” is not the universal technical description.
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What the pattern means: A brief technical aside on immortal cancer cell lines lists two distinct routes to endless division—overactive standard telomere elongation or the alternative lengthening pathway—rather than a single universal mechanism.

What commenters described: they either have hyperactive classic telomere elongation or ALT (alternative lengthening of telomeres)

CAR-T therapy can cure or control some blood cancers; some products use disabled lentiviral vectors related to HIV to deliver the CAR gene
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What the pattern means: The claim that cancer gets cured using 'a modified form of HIV' compresses CAR-T therapy's use of disabled lentiviral vectors into a single punchy but slightly misleading sentence.

What commenters described: We can cure some types of cancer using a modified form of HIV (CAR T-cell therapy).

Forceful or abrupt neck movement can rarely contribute to cervical artery dissection and stroke, but ordinary head-turning is not generally lethal
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What the pattern means: A one-line claim that turning your head too fast can kill you compresses the rare, real phenomenon of cervical artery dissection into something that sounds like an everyday hazard.

What commenters described: You can die by turning your head too quickly.

Knowing that treatment is active can influence antidepressant response through expectancy, but antidepressants do not generally work only when patients know they are taking them
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What the pattern means: A single offhand claim collapses a real, well-documented phenomenon -- expectancy and placebo response measurably shifting how patients respond to psychiatric medication -- into something that sounds like the pharmacology itself switches off without a patient's awareness, overstating how much of the effect is expectancy versus active drug action.

What commenters described: Some antidepressants only work if you know you're taking them

The claim that people physiologically sneeze differently according to language is based only on a remembered school video and was not verified; language-specific onomatopoeia does not by itself prove different sneeze reflexes.
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What the pattern means: A commenter openly admits their claim about people physiologically sneezing differently by language comes from an elementary-school video decades ago, not any source they can actually verify.

Limit: I have no sources, and am going off of a video tape I watched in the nineties in elementary school about this phenomenon.

Schizophrenia includes delusions, disorganized thinking, negative symptoms, and hallucinations; hallucinations alone do not define it
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What the pattern means: One commenter's detailed account of losing his inner monologue after antipsychotic treatment resolved his auditory hallucinations shows how much more schizophrenia touches than voices alone; several others pile on to insist paranoia, disorganized thought, and flattened affect matter just as much.

What commenters described: Hallucinations are just one symptom of schizophrenia, and not overly common. Delusions, paranoia, and negative symptoms (catatonia, flat affect, apathy) are far more prevalent symptoms.

Sneezing vocalizations may be partly learned
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What the pattern means: A person deaf from birth checked with family and reports their own sneeze sounds ordinary, which cuts against the tidy deaf-versus-hearing split the claim opens with, while several hearing commenters describe picking up a parent's or sibling's exact sneeze sound as kids.

What commenters described: My sneeze has started to sound like my dad's used to.

Limit: A different deaf-from-birth commenter's own sneeze tested normal with their family, which complicates the clean claim that deafness alone changes the sound.

CJD, BSE, scrapie, chronic wasting disease, and kuru are prion diseases
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What the pattern means: A commenter mourning a friend who died of sporadic CJD at 45 with no warning grounds the abstract list of prion diseases in something personal, while another's note about chronic wasting disease surviving 1000°C heat shows why these misfolded proteins are so hard to eliminate once established.

What commenters described: My best friend died this year of Sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, a rare, fatal, and rapidly progressive degenerative brain disorder caused by abnormally folded prions. 45 years old. No warning.

Blindness and short-term blindfolding can recruit visual cortex for nonvisual processing
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What the pattern means: A commenter's fMRI detail about blindfolded sighted people developing altered brain activity within weeks, then finding vision 'confusing and overwhelming' once the blindfold came off, is the actual evidence here; the dopamine-and-neocortex theory offered afterward is one poster's own speculative model, not something the thread verifies.

What commenters described: studies have shown that people who used blindfolds to block out all vision consistently for a few weeks demonstrated changes in how their brains functioned that could be visualized via fMRI.

Screened fecal microbiota therapies can prevent recurrent Clostridioides difficile infection after antibiotics, but they are not the only cure for being broadly 'very sick'
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What the pattern means: Two commenters describe donating their own stool to save a grandmother and great-grandmother from C. diff, giving one of them another five to ten years of life, which makes this a targeted rescue for a specific gut infection rather than evidence for curing being generally 'very sick.'

What commenters described: I saved my great grandma's life by donating my shit to her... She lived for another 5-6 years after that.

Confabulation is documented in neurological disease, but a confident false memory is not automatically dementia or proof that all memory is fabricated
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What the pattern means: A son watching his father's early dementia invent details rather than admit a gap, and a daughter recalling her mother waking from a coma insisting the hospital served McDonald's, both show confabulation as something that happens under real neurological strain, not as proof that every confident memory is fiction.

What commenters described: When my mom woke up from a 19 days induced coma after surgery for a ruptured aneurism, I guess she would dream of something and was convinced it was true.

Parts of the eye are immune privileged, but the immune system knows and protects ocular tissues; it does not normally destroy eyes merely by discovering them
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What the pattern means: This item is really the meme spreading itself: nearly identical copies of the same 'your immune system doesn't know your eyes exist' line show up again and again, drawing genuine shock, but nobody in the thread actually explains the mechanism behind the claim.

What commenters described: Wtf????

There is no credible evidence that alpha-gal-associated ticks were deliberately released by Bill Gates, PETA, government, or another organization
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What the pattern means: Blame here gets spread across Bill Gates, PETA, the government, and 'the meat industry' with no commenter offering anything beyond suspicion, and one person even admits the conspiracy crowd being right about other things lately makes them uneasy dismissing this one outright.

Limit: There's also a conspiracy that the us is releasing them on farmers so they can take their land — offered without any supporting evidence in the thread.

Toxoplasma gondii is a single-celled protozoan—not a brain worm—and exposure can come from food, soil, water, or cat feces; infected rodents can show altered cat-odor responses, while human behavioral causation remains unproved
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What the pattern means: Commenters describe Toxoplasma's effect on mice with real specificity — stripping their fear of cat urine so they get eaten and the parasite can complete its cycle — but the same posters are careful to hedge that the human behavioral link is 'correlation' with 'nothing solid' rather than proven mind control.

What commenters described: it infects mice, chemically rewires their brains to completely remove their fear of cats, and actually makes the mice attracted to the smell of cat urine so they get eaten.

Microbial and human cell counts are roughly comparable
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What the pattern means: The old 'more bacteria than human cells' line gets quietly corrected mid-thread to a roughly one-to-three-percent ratio, even as the same conversation runs off into fecal-transplant recipients supposedly picking up their donor's love of hiking.

What commenters described: In fecal transplant studies, if the donor liked hiking and the recipient would take up hiking after the transplant.

Limit: No, it's 1% to 3% — a direct correction of the '50/50' framing that opens the thread.

Some dying brains show brief organized electrical activity, but this does not establish awareness after cardiac arrest or a human DMT 'dump'
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What the pattern means: Several commenters converge on the same practical point: whatever electrical activity a dying brain shows, the body only carries about four seconds of oxygen reserve once the heart stops, which they use to argue against reading any of it as sustained awareness.

Limit: The DMT thing is a myth, the quantities produced by our body are way too small to have any effect akin to the one of exogenous DMT.

Spear-throwers and slings greatly extend human projectile capability, but the comments overstate their chronology and political effects
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What the pattern means: One commenter dramatizes the sling as history's first 'silent sniper' that supposedly launched warlords to power, only for the very next reply to point out the whistle isn't actually silent, just brief — a small but telling correction to the political overreach.

Limit: Not completely silent. You'd hear the whistle just for a few moments, which honestly might be the more terrifying option.

Prions are misfolded proteins that template abnormal folding and cause fatal transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, including Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease
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What the pattern means: Across six short comments the same mechanism gets restated with almost clinical consistency — a misfolded protein that forces other proteins to misfold, resists ordinary sterilization, and kills once symptoms start — landing somewhere between textbook precision and one commenter's blunt two-word summary.

HeLa cancer cells can proliferate indefinitely in culture
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What the pattern means: A researcher who actually works with these cell lines describes freezing, thawing, and shipping the same lineage worldwide for decades, generating far more combined mass than the original person's body ever had, while a colleague's reply reminds readers HeLa is just one of thousands of similarly immortalized lines in use today.

What commenters described: We can freeze and thaw them indefinitely. Ship them all over the world. Probably the most popular ones have generated 1000s of times the weight of their original body.

The body does not replace every cell every seven years; cell lifetimes range from days to decades or longer
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What the pattern means: A direct rebuttal in the thread names the exception that breaks the tidy 'every cell replaced every seven years' claim outright: heart muscle cells and many neurons persist for decades or an entire lifetime, not on any seven-year clock at all.

Limit: This is a myth. Some cells replace themselves very quickly, but others like heart muscle cells can last for decades and many neurons in the brain last a lifetime.

Lyme disease, Rocky Mountain spotted fever, and alpha-gal syndrome are distinct conditions, and a shared tick association does not mean one causes the other
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What the pattern means: One person compares their own Rocky Mountain spotted fever to 'a week long bad flu' while another describes years of meat-triggered reactions from alpha-gal, and directly asking whether their Lyme infection caused the meat allergy shows commenters themselves are unsure where one tick-borne condition ends and another begins.

What commenters described: for me RMSF was a week long bad flu. not fun, but better than not being able to eat meat for years to life

A 2025 study reported micro- and nanoplastic material in postmortem human brains, but health effects, exact concentrations, entry routes, and in-body breakdown remain uncertain
4 source records

What the pattern means: The 'plastic spoon's worth in your brain' framing gets an immediate real-time correction from a commenter predicting the figure is a likely overestimate once newer 2026 studies land, showing how fast the uncertainty around this 2025 finding is already shifting.

Limit: most likely huge overestimate, 2026 studies come up with much lower figures

Anxiety disorders and phobias involve excessive fear or worry; they are not simply beliefs a person can choose to reason away
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What the pattern means: A genuinely curious question about why anyone would fear an instant, unpreventable extinction event gets a patient answer explaining anxiety as a threat-response malfunction rather than a belief a person chooses to hold, and the exchange that follows shows the asker working out their own compulsive worry in real time as they talk it through.

What commenters described: Anxiety disorders are a disfunction in how the brain responds to potential threats, and manifests as a inappropriately strong reaction.

Researchers are testing antibody therapy intended to enable tooth regrowth
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What the pattern means: A classmate's memory of kids who naturally grew a third set of teeth after losing their second set gives the Japanese antibody trial a plausible biological hook, though nobody in the thread can even confirm which country is actually running it.

Limit: Which country? That's bizarre — a basic detail the thread leaves unresolved.

Parts of the eye are immune privileged, and rare sympathetic ophthalmia can inflame both eyes after penetrating injury or intraocular surgery; the body does not ordinarily 'reject' its eyes
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What the pattern means: A careful correction pushes back on the idea that the eye simply hides from the immune system, explaining instead that a barrier keeps immune cells out while the eye's own tissue can still signal for help, and that real damage risks sympathetic ophthalmia, a rare condition one commenter says they'd never even heard of until reading about it twice in one week.

What commenters described: How odd, I'd never heard of sympathetic ophthalmia until a couple of days ago and now I've read about it twice!

Meditation practice is associated with structural and functional MRI differences in several brain regions, but evidence does not show that simply sitting without thought enlarges the frontal lobe
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What the pattern means: The thread barely gets past repeating the 'just sitting and not thinking' framing and asking whether a bigger frontal lobe is even good news, with nobody offering the actual mechanism behind the structural changes researchers have measured.

Hypoxia is one terminal pathway in many deaths, but lack of oxygen is not the only thing that kills humans
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What the pattern means: An intensivist's sweeping claim that literally every death traces back to oxygen deprivation gets a direct rebuttal citing starvation, radiation, and cellular damage as death pathways that don't run through hypoxia at all, though the counter-reply notes oxygen is still needed somewhere upstream to make the ATP those cells depend on.

Limit: Starvation is an example of death where you die not due to lack of oxygen but lack of nutrients necessary for oxygen to produce ATP from.

Binocular misalignment can cause visual and postconcussive symptoms; sweeping anxiety and agoraphobia claims exceed the evidence
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What the pattern means: A firsthand diagnosis story — four-plus years of brain fog, headaches, and double vision before landing on Binocular Vision Dysfunction, found through a Reddit post rather than a doctor — grounds the condition in real symptoms, while the broader claims about anxiety and agoraphobia stay loose, secondhand impressions rather than anything sourced.

What commenters described: I just got diagnosed with this after 4+ years of losing my life to brain fog and all those other symptoms And I actually learned about it from a reddit post.

The human genome has been sequenced to increasingly complete reference standards; diversity mapping and clinical interpretation remain ongoing
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What the pattern means: A brief mention of whole-genome mapping being used to individualize pediatric cancer treatment at a local facility is the only concrete application offered here, with none of the deeper diversity-mapping or clinical-interpretation work the label flags as still ongoing actually discussed.

Fatal familial insomnia is an inherited prion disease that progressively disrupts sleep
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What the pattern means: Two short comments together capture the shape of fatal familial insomnia: a misfolded brain protein that steals the ability to sleep, usually inherited but sometimes spontaneous, and a death that typically takes a matter of months rather than being instant.

Some mammal-derived medicines and medical products can contain alpha-gal, but AGS does not categorically prohibit every blood product, stent, valve, chemotherapy, vaccine, suture, or capsule
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What the pattern means: Two patients describe how far alpha-gal reaches beyond diet alone — one needing a crash cart on standby for routine vaccines because of porcine components, another listing sutures, stents, heart valves, and even gel-cap medicine as things they now have to avoid entirely.

What commenters described: It changes what sutures can be used, what blood products it's safe to get if you lose too much of your own, can't get a stent or a heart valve.

Telomerase is active in many cancers, but it is not a single explanation for why tumors arise and lobster blood is not an anti-aging treatment
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What the pattern means: The hopeful jump from 'lobsters don't seem to age' to 'give humans lobster telomeres' gets walked back by a commenter explaining the actual trade-off: unchecked cell repair without the usual telomere shutoff tends to produce cancer, not immortality.

Limit: Unfortunately, no probably not. You'd get some sort of generalized cancer that way, cuz in adult non-lobster animals, telomerase is why cancerous tumors occur.

Naegleria fowleri can cause rare, usually fatal brain infection when contaminated warm freshwater enters the nose
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What the pattern means: A hospital worker who helped prepare the experimental drug that saved a child infected at an Arkansas water park gives this a rare firsthand medical angle, while a second commenter's warning about natural hot springs shows the same risk exists well beyond any single, well-known outbreak site.

What commenters described: We were shipped an experimental drug that saved her life. One of my craziest experiences because I helped reconstitute and draw up the med that saved her life.

Female Surinam toads incubate fertilized eggs in chambers embedded in dorsal skin, from which fully formed froglets emerge
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What the pattern means: The two comments here amount to pure disbelief — one commenter simply states that Surinam toads give birth this way, and the other refuses to accept the animal is real at all, without either offering any further detail about the mechanism.

Time-varying MRI gradients can stimulate peripheral nerves and radiofrequency energy can heat tissue, but a subjective current-like feeling does not show energy shooting through the body
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What the pattern means: Two separate commenters independently describe the exact same MRI sensation of feeling 'energy shooting through' their body, with one visibly relieved to learn they weren't imagining it, even though neither offers any explanation for what that current-like feeling actually is.

Repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation can help some treatment-resistant depression and other cleared conditions; response is not guaranteed
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What the pattern means: One commenter's report of TMS resolving 37 years of anxiety and depression in six weeks reads almost too good to be true, and the very next reply grounds that excitement in a practical problem — a clinic an hour away makes daily treatment barely feasible at all.

What commenters described: brain magnets fixed thirty seven years of anxiety and depression in six weeks

Limit: I had a referral for it but the closest clinic is over an hour away which isn't feasible for daily treatment.

Sudden sensorineural hearing loss can appear on waking, is often idiopathic, and requires urgent medical assessment
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What the pattern means: This is a single unadorned account of waking up permanently deaf in one ear with no warning and no explanation the doctors could offer, which is precisely what makes idiopathic sudden sensorineural hearing loss unsettling rather than reassuring.

Rabies post-exposure prophylaxis must be evaluated promptly after a credible exposure and before symptoms; once clinical rabies appears, disease is nearly always fatal.
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What the pattern means: The urgency framing here is blunt and specific: post-exposure rabies treatment has to start before any symptoms appear, because the thread's own wording is that once they do show up, the disease is 'nearly 100% fatal' — not a scare tactic so much as an accurate summary of the stakes.

Henrietta Lacks’s tumor cells were collected in 1951 without her knowledge or consent and became the widely used HeLa cell line.
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What the pattern means: A commenter points to Rebecca Skloot's book and the HBO adaptation as the record of how Henrietta Lacks's cells were taken and commercialized without her knowledge, with her family left unaware for decades even as HeLa became one of the most-used cell lines in the world.

What commenters described: The legendary 'HeLa' cells were taken without Henrietta's knowledge or permission, and her family was not informed until decades later.

SARS-CoV-2 infection can cause cardiovascular and neurological complications, and Long COVID commonly includes brain fog, but one mechanism does not explain every symptom or all recent heart trends in young people
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What the pattern means: The claim that COVID damages heart and brain tissue gets stated as if it directly explains rising heart problems among young, healthy people, but the commenter offers no data actually connecting those two trends beyond asserting the link outright.

Cabenuva can be administered every two months for eligible virologically suppressed patients.
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What the pattern means: Buried in a longer account of treating HIV-positive patients is a specific, almost throwaway detail: an injectable called Cabenuva that some patients take just once every two months, which the commenter describes as literally their entire ongoing treatment.

What commenters described: We even have an injectable treatment now that you get every two months (Cabenuva), and that's their whole treatment for HIV.

Effective antiretroviral therapy can make HIV a manageable chronic condition.
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What the pattern means: The same healthcare worker's broader point is what stands out most: patients who once faced a death sentence now 'live very normal lives' on modern antiretroviral therapy, a shift dramatic enough that the commenter admits getting emotional describing it.

What commenters described: I work with a lot of HIV+ patients. They live very normal lives.

HIV treatment can be one pill daily.
1 source record

What the pattern means: One line in that same account does a lot of work: a single daily pill can make a patient's viral load undetectable, at which point the commenter says they can no longer spread the virus to anyone else.

What commenters described: one pill a day can make someone undetectable, so they can't even spread HIV, let alone develop AIDS.

Medication cost can create financial barriers to prescription fulfillment and full adherence for some people with HIV; it is not universal.
1 source record

What the pattern means: The same healthcare worker is careful to note that cost, not biology, is the actual obstacle most of their patients face — the medications work reliably, but affording them consistently is what the thread flags as the real barrier.

What commenters described: Affording meds is a big problem, but as long as they have them...

People maintaining viral load below 200 copies/mL on ART do not sexually transmit HIV.
1 source record

What the pattern means: The clause tucked into that healthcare worker's comment about patients being unable to 'even spread HIV, let alone develop AIDS' is essentially the undetectable-equals-untransmittable finding stated in plain, non-clinical language by someone who watches it play out daily.

PrEP substantially reduces HIV acquisition risk when used as prescribed.
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What the pattern means: The same commenter calls PrEP 'a goddamn medical miracle' in almost the same breath as describing patients who no longer transmit HIV, framing prevention and treatment as two sides of a shift they say brings them to tears thinking about everyone lost before it existed.

What commenters described: PrEP is a goddamn medical miracle, too. I honestly end up in the verge of tears when I talk about it.

For a previously unvaccinated, immunocompetent person under current U.S. guidance, rabies PEP includes wound care, immune globulin, and vaccine on days 0, 3, 7, and 14; schedules differ with prior vaccination, immune status, and national guidance.
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What the pattern means: Someone bitten by a bat in the UK describes the actual post-exposure regimen as four separate shots spread across roughly a month, correcting any assumption that a single injection would be enough to prevent rabies.

What commenters described: it's not just one injection and you're done, nope, it's 4 over the course of a month all at different Intervals too.

Peritoneal dialysis uses the vascularized peritoneal lining as the exchange membrane through which wastes and excess fluid move into dialysis solution.
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What the pattern means: A commenter explains peritoneal dialysis through the tissue doing the actual work — the peritoneum is richly supplied with blood vessels and permeable enough to function like a real dialysis membrane, just at a slower pace than being hooked to a machine.

AIDS is the most severe stage of HIV infection, defined by a low CD4 count or specified opportunistic illnesses.
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What the pattern means: A commenter draws the line precisely: HIV-positive means the immune system is still functioning, while AIDS is specifically the end stage marked by a collapsed defense against opportunistic infections, which is why the disease went unrecognized as HIV for so long in its early spread.

Untreated HIV remains active, damages immune function, and can progress to AIDS; saying HIV itself is “not lethal” is misleading.
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What the pattern means: That same commenter's own phrasing carries a built-in caveat worth noticing: calling HIV itself 'not lethal' undersells how thoroughly it dismantles immune function over years, opening the door to the opportunistic infections that actually kill.

Limit: since it targets the immune system people were getting all kinds of different opportunistic infections — the commenter's own qualifier on calling HIV 'not lethal.'

HIV can be transmitted through sex, shared injection equipment, and contaminated blood products; it was never biologically limited to gay men.
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What the pattern means: A story about a DARE officer's outdated assumption that HIV could only spread through gay sex — ignoring shared needles and blood transfusions recognized as transmission routes from early in the epidemic — captures how stigma outlasted the actual medical understanding.

Male common bed bugs inseminate females by piercing a specialized abdominal region with an intromittent organ, bypassing the ordinary female genital tract
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What the pattern means: Stated as plainly as the commenter puts it, male bed bugs bypass any genital opening entirely and pierce straight through the female's body cavity to inseminate her, a mechanism that needs no embellishment to sound alarming.

Thousands of human cancer cell lines exist; Cellosaurus already cataloged more than 18,000 cancer cell lines in its 2018 release, although their quality and suitability vary by experiment.
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What the pattern means: A researcher notes that today's cancer studies actually draw on thousands of cataloged cell lines, most considered outdated next to newer models, before drifting into an openly hypothetical and explicitly unethical tangent about theoretically cloning someone from preserved DNA.

Limit: Extremely challenging and unethical, but the DNA is there — the commenter's own caveat on their cloning aside.

Dextrose or icodextrin in peritoneal dialysate creates an osmotic gradient that draws extra water from blood across the peritoneum; wastes also diffuse down concentration gradients.
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What the pattern means: A commenter reduces the mechanism to its simplest form: the dialysate's sugar content lowers the water concentration just enough that osmosis pulls extra fluid out of the blood, no exotic membrane trickery required.

Human rabies can be tested before death using saliva, nuchal skin, cerebrospinal fluid, and serum; it is false that infection is completely undetectable until death.
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What the pattern means: The widely copied rabies passage insists a blood test 'won't even tell you if you've got it,' which is true, but that's a narrower claim than the thread's opening line that infection is completely undetectable until death — saliva, skin, and spinal fluid sampling can catch it earlier.

Limit: Rabies does not travel in your blood. In fact, a blood test won't even tell you if you've got it — true of blood specifically, but not the same as being untestable altogether.

The claim that Greece has no documented peanut allergy is false or at least unsubstantiated; peanut allergy prevalence varies by population, diet, diagnosis, and study design
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What the pattern means: Two competing folk explanations get offered for Greece's supposedly peanut-allergy-free population — heavier early allergen exposure versus peanuts simply being rare in the cuisine — and the commenter backs neither with anything beyond having seen a documentary on it.

The detailed claims that the virus liquefies named brain regions and survives for years in a corpse are sensationalized and unsupported by CDC or WHO guidance.
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What the pattern means: The same widely copied rabies passage leans hard into cinematic detail — a virus that 'chews up' the amygdala and can survive 'in a corpse for years' — writing vivid enough to spread widely but well ahead of anything CDC or WHO guidance actually confirms in those specific terms.

In U.S. kidney allocation, a prior living organ donor receives allocation priority if later listed, subject to policy and medical eligibility.
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What the pattern means: A short PSA-style comment frames living kidney donation as 'keeping a backup kidney safe somewhere,' since a prior donor and a short list of relatives can move up the transplant list later if they themselves ever need one.

Lithium salts are medicines for bipolar disorder, while iron in hemoglobin contributes to blood's red color; familiar elements can have very different roles in compounds
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What the pattern means: A commenter's specific memory of chemistry class captures the surprise well: the same element used in mood-stabilizing medication also sits in the batteries on the shelf, and the iron that colors blood red is identical to the metal in a box of nails.

Brazilian wandering-spider envenomation can rarely cause priapism, but the emergency treatment is not accurately summarized as simply draining pooled blood to prevent amputation
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What the pattern means: The alarming shape of the original claim — a spider bite causing an hours-long, tissue-threatening erection — holds up as real, though the commenter compresses an actual emergency protocol down to a single blunt 'drain it or lose it' step.

Reduced auditory input can contribute to tinnitus through central-gain changes, but tinnitus is not a single-purpose brain defense mechanism
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What the pattern means: A passing comparison ties tinnitus to the same 'brain fills a gap' family as confabulation, framing phantom sound as a purpose-built defense mechanism when reduced input is really just one of several contributing factors researchers point to.

Humans cannot literally walk forever even with food, water, and no need for sleep
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What the pattern means: The commenter floating the idea that humans could theoretically walk forever given endless food, water, and no need for sleep immediately hedges their own claim, treating it as striking trivia rather than something they're confident is literally true.

Limit: I'm not sure if it's completely true — the commenter's own hedge on the claim they just made.

Claims about the pain of personal strikes, deliberate restraint, individual recognition, and specific human bone-breaking potential are anecdotal or speculative in this comment.
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What the pattern means: Someone who's actually kept several mantis shrimp species compares their punches side by side — a small species that barely registers, a mid-size one that legitimately hurts, and the peacock mantis with its 200-pound-force hammer — but the claims about them recognizing their keeper and deliberately holding back rest on personal impression, not measurement.

Lobsters are not biologically immortal; they face disease, predation, shell deterioration, and increasingly costly or failed molts.
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What the pattern means: A direct correction dismantles the 'biologically immortal' lobster myth by name, pointing to disease, predation, deteriorating shells, and molts that get more dangerous and costly as they grow larger as the real reasons lobsters do eventually die.

Limit: IIRC Lobsters are biologically immortal, and only die because they get so large that the energy the gain from eating can't keep up with the energy needed to hunt or molt — a claim the parent thread directly disputes.

Living bone contains substantial water along with collagen, mineral, cells, marrow, and blood vessels, so bones inside a living body are wet
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What the pattern means: Stated in four blunt words, the point here is simply that bone tissue — mineral, collagen, marrow, and blood vessels together — holds real water, not the dry white prop most people picture when they think of a skeleton.

People with schizophrenia are less susceptible on average to the hollow-mask illusion, but it is not a diagnostic test
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What the pattern means: A commenter's college psych-class factoid about schizophrenia and the hollow-mask illusion comes wrapped in its own repeated disclaimers — not a diagnostic test, their expertise stops at a two-year degree — which keeps the claim honest about its limits even as they share it.

Limit: Not like it alone will diagnose you officially, but like it it's not nothing either. All I got was a 2 year degree. Don't take this as medical advice.

Dialysate is not simply abdominal-cavity water; it is a sterile solution containing water, salts, and an osmotic agent such as dextrose or icodextrin.
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What the pattern means: The teabag analogy does real explanatory work here: dialysate sitting in the abdominal cavity draws toxins out of the blood by diffusion across the peritoneum's large surface area, the same basic idea as steeping tea, just applied to a life-saving therapy.

Human fecal microbiota products are established for preventing recurrent C. difficile infection in defined settings; claims that FMT reliably changes appetite, energy, depression, weight loss, acne, or liking hiking are not established indications.
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What the pattern means: A wide net of claimed fecal-transplant effects — appetite, energy, mood, weight, even acne — gets undercut by the commenter's own honest hedge that the 'liking hiking' one specifically might just be a side effect of generally feeling better, not a distinct outcome.

Limit: Apparently whether you like hiking-- but that might also be a side effect of having more energy or less depression.

Peritoneal dialysis can provide gentler continuous fluid removal than intermittent hemodialysis for some patients, but the best modality and comparative burden are patient-specific.
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What the pattern means: The same commenter who reaches for the teabag analogy also opens by calling peritoneal dialysis 'much more gentle' than hemodialysis, framing the choice between them as a matter of individual patient burden rather than one method being universally superior.

Male bed bugs pierce a specialized area of the female abdomen and inseminate into the body cavity, a process called traumatic insemination
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What the pattern means: In more visceral language than the parallel thread on the same topic, this commenter describes male bed bugs stabbing females anywhere on the body with 'weaponized genitalia' and still achieving fertilization, grim enough that they single out bedbugs as the one species they'd erase given the chance.

Autoimmune disease results from loss of immune tolerance to self components, but normal “self detection” is not simply a defense mechanism whose only failure outcome is autoimmunity.
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What the pattern means: A father comparing his nonverbal autistic daughter's behavior to disconnected brain hemispheres, describing the connection as 'sometimes coming loose,' is a moving personal read but stays exactly that — his own working metaphor, not a clinical finding the thread otherwise supports.

GRID (“gay-related immune deficiency”) was an early, stigmatizing label used before the name AIDS was adopted; it was not the only original name.
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What the pattern means: This item barely gets elaborated: a whole-genome mapping mention paired with one reply about individualized pediatric cancer treatment is the extent of what commenters actually offer here about the technology's reach.

Poor oral health and periodontitis are associated with dementia risk, but tooth decay has not been established as a cause of Alzheimer's disease
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What the pattern means: A commenter frames a statistical correlation between poor dental health and Alzheimer's as causal, offering a bacteria-travels-along-dental-nerves mechanism they themselves admit they're unsure is accurate.

Limit: I don't know how true that part is — the commenter's own hedge on the mechanism they just proposed.

Long-acting injectable HIV treatment exists, but the personal “one shot every three months and nothing else” regimen cannot be verified and does not match the common U.S. every-two-month cabotegravir/rilpivirine schedule.
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What the pattern means: A coworker's account of a single shot every three months replacing all other HIV treatment is offered as straightforward daily-life observation, though the interval described doesn't quite line up with the every-two-month cabotegravir/rilpivirine schedule more commonly documented in the U.S.

Many flies resolve faster visual changes than humans and use rapid sensorimotor systems during escape, but the superhero slow-motion analogy and claim that a swatting hand literally appears stuck in molasses are illustrative exaggerations.
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What the pattern means: The superhero-movie comparison — a fly dodging a swatting hand as if the hand were stuck in molasses — is a vivid way to describe faster visual processing in flies, useful as metaphor even though nothing is literally moving in slow motion for anyone involved.

People with HIV can give birth to infants without HIV; sustained antiretroviral treatment and appropriate perinatal care can reduce transmission risk to under 1%.
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What the pattern means: Framed almost celebratory, the claim that HIV-positive women can carry and deliver HIV-negative babies is stated here without the actual mechanics — sustained antiretroviral treatment and perinatal care that get transmission risk under one percent — that make it reliably true rather than lucky.

A person who is HIV-negative after maternal-antibody seroreversion is not immune and can acquire HIV through later exposure.
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What the pattern means: A family's own account of a step-brother born testing positive, not expected to survive six months, whose immune system eventually cleared the virus and who went on to a full life with his adoptive family, is a genuinely moving case, though the commenter's belief that he 'cannot contract it now' overstates what seroreversion actually means for future risk.

Limit: I believe cannot contract it now — the commenter's own belief, though clearing a false-positive infant test does not confer future immunity.

A small study reported reduced fertility measures in rats fitted with polyester garments and attributed them to electrostatic effects; it does not establish that satin underwear causes human infertility
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What the pattern means: The claim about rats in satin underwear having reduced fertility from static electricity is repeated with no further detail on sample size, species-specific relevance, or how directly it might translate to humans wearing the same fabric.

Babies born to mothers with HIV can test antibody-positive from passively transferred maternal antibodies and later serorevert without ever having been infected; a positive infant antibody test alone does not prove infection.
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What the pattern means: The same family story carries a distinct diagnostic wrinkle worth pulling out on its own: the infant's initial positive test reflected antibodies passed from his mother at birth, not an actual infection, and cleared once his own immune system took over.

Contaminated plasma-derived clotting-factor concentrates infected many people with hemophilia with HIV during the 1980s.
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What the pattern means: A 'random fact' about the hemophilia population notes that contaminated clotting-factor treatments in the 1980s infected roughly half of them with HIV, with more than 4,000 deaths counted in the U.S. alone from that specific contamination.

Peritoneal dialysate is a sterile solution of water, electrolytes, and an osmotic agent; it is not simply engineered extracellular fluid targeted at passive membrane proteins.
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What the pattern means: A commenter who already understands osmotic gradients and urea still can't quite decide whether dialysate is more like 'lighter fluid or power steering fluid,' a joke that undercuts its own claim to being simply engineered extracellular fluid.

Ritonavir’s original semisolid capsule suffered a 1998 manufacturing crisis when a less-soluble crystal polymorph appeared and caused dissolution failures.
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What the pattern means: The account of ritonavir's manufacturing crisis gets genuinely specific — a new crystal form appearing mid-production, a temporary switch to liquid, and a failed attempt to isolate clean manufacturing in Italy — detail dramatic enough to stick with readers even where it outruns what's verifiable.

Stories that visiting personnel irreversibly contaminated every new factory with a single crystal are not established by the reviewed primary sources and should not be stated as fact.
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What the pattern means: The most cinematic detail in that same ritonavir story — that visiting staff themselves accidentally carried the contaminating crystal into the new Italian facility — is repeated as fact but isn't something the thread backs with any source.

The capsule was temporarily replaced by liquid while the drug was reformulated; saying ritonavir pills could never be made again is false because later ritonavir-containing tablets exist.
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What the pattern means: That same account's claim that ritonavir pills are 'gone now and can never be remade' doesn't hold up: reformulated ritonavir tablets do exist today, contradicting the liquid-only ending the story gives itself.

Limit: The pills for it are gone now and can never be remade again — directly contradicted by later reformulated ritonavir tablets that do exist.

There is no credible evidence that most human autopsies reveal worms in the brain
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What the pattern means: This is a bare assertion with nothing behind it: a single sentence claiming most autopsies turn up brain worms, offered without any detail, source, or elaboration from the commenter who posted it.

Turritopsis dohrnii can reverse from medusa toward a juvenile polyp stage, but this is life-cycle reprogramming—not proof that all aged cells can turn back time or that an individual cannot die
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What the pattern means: Calling the immortal jellyfish's medusa-to-polyp reversal proof that we can 'turn back time' at a genetic level stretches a genuinely remarkable, species-specific life-cycle reset into a general claim about reversing aging that the biology itself doesn't support.

“About half” refers to estimates for the U.S. hemophilia population, not the global population; the reply’s global wording is incorrect.
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What the pattern means: The same 'random fact' about hemophilia and HIV slips from a U.S.-specific figure into global language, framing 'about half' as worldwide when the death toll and context given are specifically American.

CRISPR systems can make targeted genome edits, but precision and clinical consequences depend on delivery, cell type and off-target effects
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What the pattern means: The commenter's own starstruck description of an interviewer using hushed, reverential tones with Jennifer Doudna captures how CRISPR's real ability to make precise, visible gene edits at a scale invisible to the naked eye still reads as slightly unbelievable even to enthusiasts.

Engineered laboratory E. coli can produce human insulin and other therapeutic proteins in industrial fermentation
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What the pattern means: There's plain wonder in how this commenter describes turning something ordinarily harmful — E. coli — into an industrial workhorse grown in bioreactors specifically to manufacture human insulin, a full inversion of what the bacterium is usually known for.

Personalized pancreatic-cancer vaccines are in clinical trials and have produced durable immune responses in small early studies
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What the pattern means: The mention of a pancreatic-cancer vaccine 'in the works' is offered here as a brief, almost offhand claim, with no detail from the commenter about trial phase, sample size, or how durable the reported immune response actually is.

The chain saw's precursor was a small hand-cranked toothed surgical instrument developed for symphysiotomy and bone cutting, not the modern gasoline logging saw
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What the pattern means: The chainsaw-for-childbirth trivia gets delivered with a 'no lie, google it' shrug rather than any actual detail about the small, hand-cranked surgical instrument that was its real precursor, leaving readers to picture the wrong tool entirely.

The Wada test can temporarily anesthetize one hemisphere to assess language and memory before epilepsy surgery
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What the pattern means: A rare firsthand account from someone who's actually undergone both a corpus callosotomy and a Wada test describes volunteering for the latter with a kind of 'well why the fuck not' bravado that says as much about the person as the procedure.

Urine begins as filtered blood plasma and is extensively modified by kidney reabsorption and secretion
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What the pattern means: Stated in five words with no elaboration, the claim that urine starts out as filtered blood skips past the actual kidney work — reabsorption and secretion — that transforms plasma into what eventually leaves the body.

Dolly demonstrated mammal cloning from an adult somatic cell; that does not imply cancer should have one simple cure
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What the pattern means: The blunt comparison between cloning a sheep in 1996 and cancer still lacking a cure treats two unrelated technical problems as if solving one should have solved the other, without acknowledging that cloning a differentiated cell has little to do with curing a family of diseases as varied as cancer.

Drosophila bifurca makes sperm about 58 millimetres long—many times the male fly's body length
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What the pattern means: Stated as tersely as the fact itself, a fruit fly's sperm cell running longer than the fly's own body is offered with no further measurements or context about how such an outsized structure actually functions.

Human cell lines can be authenticated by STR profiling, which creates an identity fingerprint, and periodic contamination testing is recommended.
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What the pattern means: A lab-based reply pushes back on any implication that cell-line contamination goes unnoticed, describing routine STR fingerprinting and automatic destruction on detection as the actual, monitored safeguard against cross-contamination.

Microplastic health studies can compare exposure levels and body burdens without a perfectly unexposed population, but causal human evidence remains limited
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What the pattern means: A methodological point raised here — that without any unexposed control population, isolating microplastics' long-term human health effects is genuinely hard — is a fair caveat about study design, not itself proof one way or the other about actual harm.

Neonatal pain was historically underestimated, and some major infant surgery used minimal analgesia into the 1980s, but it is false that medicine universally denied infant pain or performed all procedures without anesthesia
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What the pattern means: The claim that medicine didn't 'accept' infant pain before the 1980s already carries its own qualifier: the commenter's wording is that major procedures were 'mostly' performed without anesthetic, which concedes this was never a universal, everywhere-all-the-time practice.

People with hearing loss can experience complex auditory hallucinations such as music or voices, sometimes called musical ear syndrome; this warrants evaluation rather than assuming the brain is harmlessly filling gaps
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What the pattern means: Musical ear syndrome gets framed here almost like found poetry — full songs and conversations the brain invents to fill missing auditory input — phrasing that treats it as delightfully strange trivia rather than something the commenter suggests actually warrants medical evaluation.

Potential living kidney donors undergo individualized medical evaluation, and known hereditary kidney disease or foreseeable renal risk may make donation inappropriate; a person should not infer eligibility from online discussion.
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What the pattern means: Someone with polycystic kidney disease explains, matter-of-factly, exactly why their own cyst-riddled kidneys make them ineligible to donate one even though the option would otherwise be available, while noting they still donate other organs that their disease doesn't affect.

PrEP is prevention medication for people without HIV; taking PrEP does not indicate that a person is HIV-positive.
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What the pattern means: A specific and frustrating story describes a dental intake worker flagging a patient's chart as HIV-positive and telling the dentist he was lying about being on PrEP, even after he'd explained exactly what the medication is for — a single anecdote that captures how persistent the misunderstanding still is.

The adult human brain’s metabolic power is commonly estimated near 20 watts, supporting the narrow claim that biological cognition can be energy-efficient.
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What the pattern means: Buried inside a longer AI-timeline forecast is the one figure that actually holds up on its own: the adult brain's roughly 20-watt power draw, cited here to support a much narrower and better-established point about biological efficiency than the AI speculation built on top of it.

Brain stimulation can bias movement and perceived agency, but the documentary account does not by itself establish erased memory of an intended action
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What the pattern means: The documentary scene described — an electromagnet timed to fire exactly as a volunteer decided to move his finger, muddying his own memory of whether the choice was his — is suggestive and unsettling, but it's one demonstration from one documentary, not something the commenter treats as broader proof.

Collateral coronary vessels can reduce ischemia, but a completely blocked coronary artery is still serious and not automatically symptom-free
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What the pattern means: The claim that a heart can grow collateral vessels around a slow-forming blockage well enough to leave someone symptom-free even with an artery '100% blocked' describes a favorable, gradual case rather than something that reliably protects everyone with coronary disease.

Humans do have endogenous near-24-hour circadian clocks: controlled studies place the intrinsic pacemaker near 24.2 hours. Isolation can uncouple sleep schedules from that pacemaker and produce much longer apparent sleep–wake cycles, so one cave participant does not show an absence of 24-hour biology.
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What the pattern means: A caver's own tracked data — sleep-wake cycles stretching to 18 or 24 hours once she stopped using alarms underground — is genuinely striking evidence of how far an internal clock can drift without daylight cues, though it demonstrates isolation uncoupling the pacemaker, not the absence of one.

Peritoneal dialysis uses the blood-vessel-rich peritoneal lining as a membrane: dialysis solution in the abdomen absorbs wastes and excess fluid and is then drained. It replaces only part of kidney function and requires repeated exchanges.
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What the pattern means: Someone clearly grateful for the therapy describes the peritoneum's vessel-rich lining pulling toxins the way a kidney would, while adding on their own that it's 'not as fast or as effective' as a working kidney — a backup, not a full replacement.

Limit: Unfortunately it's not as fast or as effective as a good kidney but its definitely a great backup.

Split-brain surgery can dissociate some processing between hemispheres, but 'two independent people fighting in one skull' is an overstatement
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What the pattern means: Compressed into two sentences, the description of split-brain patients as one hemisphere 'acting' while the other 'tries to stop you' is a catchy, slightly cartoonish gloss on real documented dissociation between hemispheres, not literally two competing people sharing a skull.

The vertebrate neural retina develops from the brain and is part of the central nervous system, but the entire eyeball is not brain tissue; saying that looking at an eye means seeing another person’s brain is a rhetorical shorthand.
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What the pattern means: The line that closes out the same up-versus-down vision story — that looking in a mirror lets you 'see your own brain looking at itself' — is a vivid rhetorical flourish built on the retina's real developmental link to the brain, stretched past the fact that the rest of the eyeball isn't neural tissue.

There is no basis for claiming humans will eventually approach closely enough to see the Great Attractor with the naked eye; it is a distant flow region obscured in visible light and not a scheduled encounter.
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What the pattern means: The confident reply that we'll 'sooner or later' be close enough to see the Great Attractor with the naked eye treats a gravitational flow region defined by what's obscured from view as if it were simply a distant object we're on our way toward, with no timeline or mechanism to back it up.

Metformin is an established type 2 diabetes drug under study for effects on aging, but it has not been proven to extend lifespan or healthspan in humans and should not be used as a longevity drug without medical guidance.
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What the pattern means: A one-line reply endorsing metformin for a 'longer than average life' presents an established diabetes drug's studied-but-still-unproven longevity effect as settled fact, with no hedge at all about how far the aging research on it has actually gotten.

Biological sex is organized around reproductive roles but includes multiple traits that can vary or develop atypically
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What the pattern means: The claim stands entirely on its own here — 'sex is not binary' — with no commenter in this exchange spelling out which specific traits, chromosomal, hormonal, or anatomical, they mean can vary or diverge from the typical binary pattern.

Early uncertainty and misinformation included fears of casual transmission, but HIV is not spread by air, shared rooms, food, dishes, or ordinary contact.
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What the pattern means: Recalling the early AIDS era, one commenter describes the disease's original name — GRID, for “Gay Related Immune Disease” — and the lasting stigma it left behind, alongside genuine period uncertainty about whether the virus spread through shared rooms or food, a fear that turned out to be unfounded.

What commenters described: AIDS was originally called GRID when it was first documented. Gay Related Immune Disease. That stigma stuck around HARD for a long time.

The reviewed authoritative sources did not substantiate the exact claim that more than 4,000 U.S. hemophiliacs died; do not publish that number without a dedicated demographic source.
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What the pattern means: One commenter states as settled fact that more than 4,000 U.S. hemophiliacs died after receiving blood products contaminated during the 1980s AIDS crisis, a striking and plausible-sounding figure that nonetheless couldn't be traced back to any dedicated demographic source during review.

What commenters described: globally about half of the hemophilia population was infected with AIDS during the 80's because they needed factor and blood transfusions that was made with infected blood. More than 4000 died in the U.S.

Limit: the reviewed authoritative sources did not substantiate this exact death count, so it should not be published without a dedicated demographic source

Prions are misfolded proteins that template further misfolding
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What the pattern means: Several long, well-informed replies converge on the same core mechanism, that a single misfolded PrP protein templates its neighbors into fibrils, while the thread also works to debunk the zombie-outbreak fantasy by noting how rare and slow-moving real prion transmission actually is.

What commenters described: It actually only unravels the prion protein, PrP... These normal healthy PrP proteins keep adding to the growing fibrils until the neuron dies.

Limit: Almost all prion disease arises spontaneously or from genetics; catching it from eating infected tissue would require an implausibly large exposure.

Alpha-gal syndrome is a genuine delayed IgE-mediated allergy to the alpha-gal carbohydrate, usually acquired after tick bites and capable of gastrointestinal, skin, respiratory, or anaphylactic reactions
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What the pattern means: Personal accounts here range from mild gastric distress to full anaphylactic shock from the same allergen, and more than one person describes a delayed reaction hours after eating that made the cause hard to pin down at first.

What commenters described: Took me about a year to realize that the all over body hives and swollen hands I randomly got were happening every time I ate beef or pork.

Limit: Severity is unpredictable even within one person: someone may eat steak once and just get hives, then go into anaphylactic shock the next time.

Antiretroviral therapy transformed HIV into a manageable chronic condition
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What the pattern means: The clinicians and family members in this thread describe a hard before-and-after: a nurse who watched every AIDS patient die pre-antiretrovirals now sees the same illness managed for decades, while others recall losing parents or an entire generation of friends in the years before that turn.

What commenters described: I've seen statistics showing that patients with managed HIV live longer than the general population now, since they go to check ups more frequently and find unrelated issues sooner.

Prions resist routine disinfection and require special decontamination procedures
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What the pattern means: Commenters escalate on just how hard prions are to kill, extreme autoclave-surviving heat, concentrated bleach soaks, contaminated surgical instruments causing real transmission cases, though two people directly disagree over whether prions can technically survive cremation.

What commenters described: They are incredibly stable in the wild and will even survive autoclave sterilization! You have to submerge them in super concentrated bleach for like an hour to make them fall apart.

Limit: Even this thread's own commenters disagree on method: one says extreme heat, bleach, or chemical denaturing can destroy prions, while others maintain ordinary autoclaving fails and that only incineration or an hour-long soak in concentrated bleach reliably works.

Aerosol rabies transmission is possible experimentally but extraordinarily rare in natural settings
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What the pattern means: One precise correction turns a two-word horror-story tease into a real if narrow transmission route, pointing out that exposed nasal neurons make airborne infection possible in high-density bat caves even without any bite or scratch.

What commenters described: People have been infected in high density bat caves with no bites or scratches. You can also infect animals in the lab via intranasal aerosols.

Hurricane Helene damaged a major North Carolina manufacturing facility and caused shortages of intravenous and dialysis fluids; the personal treatment details remain anecdotal.
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What the pattern means: Two dialysis patients' family members independently confirm the same supply disruption from their own households, describing fathers and mothers who had to switch treatment methods or wait on fluid sourced from other countries during the shortage.

What commenters described: Hurricane Helene definitely made a huge mess to PD supplies. They had to fill the gap with product from other countries for a while.

Do-it-yourself fecal transfer is unsafe because donor screening, pathogen testing, manufacturing controls, dosing, and clinical monitoring are essential
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What the pattern means: The reply here treats home fecal transfer almost as an open secret, nodding to 'poop blenders' while flagging that the real bottleneck isn't the procedure itself but finding a donor whose stool is actually clean, since people misrepresent their own health.

Limit: Hard to find someone with perfect poop to draw from, though. People lie, one reply notes about the donor-screening problem.

Absorbed dextrose can affect weight and glucose management, including for people with diabetes, and requires individualized clinical management.
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What the pattern means: A single blunt aside about dialysis fluid reminds readers that its dextrose content doesn't just pass through the body, it gets absorbed, which the commenter flags as a specific complication for diabetic patients managing blood sugar.

What commenters described: the fluid is 2-4% dextrose, so really rough for someone with diabetes

Many peritoneal-dialysis solutions use dextrose, but concentrations vary by prescribed product; the exact 2–4% range should not be universalized.
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What the pattern means: That same offhand comment cites one particular dextrose percentage range for dialysis fluid, though nothing else in the record confirms every peritoneal-dialysis product on the market is formulated within that exact window.

Limit: The 2-4% figure comes from a single commenter's aside and isn't verified against other dialysate formulations.

Peritoneal dialysis carries clinically important catheter-site infection and peritonitis risks.
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What the pattern means: The same short comment actually leads with the risk commenters seem to consider scariest, infection at the catheter site, well ahead of any concern about the fluid's sugar content.

What commenters described: high infection risk

Home peritoneal dialysis requires storage and regular delivery of solution bags and other supplies.
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What the pattern means: A single comment frames home peritoneal dialysis as logistically demanding rather than medically difficult, workable at home, but dependent on getting entire pallets of solution delivered on a regular schedule.

What commenters described: It works great, and can easily be done at home.

Limit: The main challenge is cost and logistics as it involves huge quantities of the fluid, like getting whole pallets regularly delivered.

Modern rabies vaccines are given in the arm for adults rather than the historical abdominal injections; the often-repeated “20 shots in the stomach” is not the current regimen.
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What the pattern means: The relieved commenter here isn't interested in rabies biology at all, just grateful that the outdated twenty-shots-in-the-abdomen regimen people still associate with the vaccine has been replaced by something far less brutal.

What commenters described: I'm just glad its not 20 in the stomach anymore. I heard that was terrible and the new way is a lot better.

Peritoneal dialysate already contains electrolytes including sodium, and changing sodium concentration can alter patient sodium balance; osmotic agents are selected and prescribed as a complete formulation rather than by simply adding more salt.
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What the pattern means: One reply shoots down a hypothetical fix by pointing out the dialysis solution already carries substantial sodium, so simply adding more salt would make a patient retain it rather than help filter excess out.

What commenters described: There's also a shitload of salt in the solution. Adding more salt would cause the patient to pick up salt rather than have excess salts filtered out.

Effective antiretroviral therapy can make HIV a manageable chronic condition with long, healthy life expectancy when treatment is accessible and sustained.
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What the pattern means: A clinic doctor's remark, that she'd take HIV over diabetes any day, captures just how completely the disease's danger profile flipped once treatment matured, coming from someone who watched both conditions up close for years.

What commenters described: if she had to choose between HIV and diabetes, she would pick HIV any day

Lithium is an effective mood stabilizer, although its clinically relevant molecular mechanism is not fully settled
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What the pattern means: Lithium's real puzzle gets stated plainly here and without embellishment, a drug relied on by millions of psychiatric patients whose actual mechanism of mood stabilization still isn't fully pinned down.

Nasal allergies can temporarily muffle hearing through Eustachian-tube obstruction, which is different from sudden sensorineural hearing loss
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What the pattern means: One commenter's own multi-year seasonal pattern, losing hearing in one ear every spring, shows how allergies can quietly muffle sound through the Eustachian tube the same way a head cold does, until their allergies eventually eased.

What commenters described: I used to lose a lot of the hearing in my left ear every year during spring, though my allergies have largely abated in severity since then.

HIV was already a widespread global epidemic before effective combination antiretroviral therapy; ART transformed prognosis but is not a cure.
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What the pattern means: One commenter frames antiretroviral therapy against the full scale of the epidemic it arrived into, calling it a 'wonder drug' while still stopping short of calling it anything like a cure.

What commenters described: Aids was heading towards a widespread epidemic before anti-retrovirals. No drug is a "wonder drug" but this one is wonderful!

The introduction of combination antiretroviral therapy including protease inhibitors in the mid-1990s produced a sharp decline in U.S. AIDS illness and deaths.
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What the pattern means: A single comment points to an actual visible inflection point on a mortality graph, crediting the arrival of protease inhibitors and HAART for a decline the commenter treats as obvious just from looking at the curve.

What commenters described: The discovery of protease inhibitors and the introduction of HAART is the bend in this graph of annual deaths from HIV/AIDS.

Antiretroviral therapy can suppress HIV to an undetectable viral load, but undetectable does not mean cured or in remission and treatment must continue.
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What the pattern means: A commenter's observation that European patients so consistently reach zero viral load that it 'looks like remission' is exactly the loose framing the underlying claim needs corrected, since undetectable and cured aren't the same thing.

What commenters described: In many countries in Europe it is the same situation. So many of the patient don't have any viral load. Look like they are in remission.

Estimated HIV acquisition risk for receptive anal sex without condoms, PrEP, or suppressive ART is about 138 per 10,000 acts (1.38%), but risk varies and compounds across repeated exposures.
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What the pattern means: One commenter reacts to how small a single-encounter transmission risk sounds, around 1.5%, while still registering how that low per-act number nonetheless devastated an entire generation once repeated exposure over time is factored in.

What commenters described: What's crazy to think about it how at its highest exposure rate in sex, it is roughly only a 1.5% chance of being infected. Such a small rate, that decimated an entire age of gay men.

The recollection is substantially correct: New York City reported that AIDS was the leading cause of death among residents ages 25–44 in the mid-1990s, including 1996, while “young people” is less precise than the published age band.
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What the pattern means: The single comment's shock at learning AIDS was NYC's leading cause of death for 'young people' in the 90s is substantially accurate, just imprecise about which specific age band the published statistic actually covered.

What commenters described: I was shocked when I learned at one point in the 90s, AIDS was the leading cause of death for young people in NYC.

Seizures and critical illness can be followed by delirium or psychotic symptoms distinct from schizophrenia
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What the pattern means: Commenters swapped near-identical delirium stories — a hospital mariachi band no one else could hear, a conviction a movie was being filmed, a nighttime flight from imagined organ harvesters — each describing the delusion as total and unquestionable until one outside prompt snapped them back.

What commenters described: I was absolutely positive there was a mariachi band playing nearby. I kept asking if they could keep it down.

Limit: One commenter drew a clear line: this was "a temporary error in our brainmeats" rather than the more lasting loss of insight seen in schizophrenia.

Antipsychotic treatment can reduce symptoms, while discontinuation is associated with relapse risk
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What the pattern means: One commenter tied medication directly to a shift in inner experience: years of antipsychotic stability came with a reflexive shutdown of an inner monologue that used to be rich, described almost like a PTSD response guarding against relapse rather than a side effect anyone chose.

What commenters described: After my auditory hallucinations finally went away due to being on medication, I developed a kind of aphantasia as sort of a PTSD response.

Limit: Another reply in the same thread noted plenty of people don't tolerate the medication well, so they stop taking it, and relapse.

Peritoneal dialysis can be performed at home, including automated exchanges during sleep.
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What the pattern means: The one comment attached here is refreshingly unglamorous about home dialysis: it just works, no asterisks about the medicine itself.

What commenters described: It works great, and can easily be done at home.

Limit: The same commenter flags the real friction as logistics — arranging regular pallet-sized deliveries of dialysis fluid — rather than anything medical.

Automated peritoneal dialysis can run at home while a patient sleeps, but quality-of-life superiority over hemodialysis is individual rather than universal.
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What the pattern means: A former dialysis patient compares both treatments from lived, physical experience — tedious but clearly preferable overnight home cleaning versus five-hour clinic sessions three times a week — and closes with an unprompted plug for organ donation from the other side of a transplant.

What commenters described: Former PD patient here can confirm it's considerably better quality of life than hemodialysis... During my transplant they just removed the tubing while I was in surgery woke up with a kidney hitting the ground running.

HIV is now often manageable with treatment, and PrEP can substantially reduce acquisition risk for HIV-negative people; access is not uniformly easy across settings.
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What the pattern means: The commenter measures the change against personal memory of growing up during the Rent-era AIDS crisis in the US, framing modern HIV treatment and PrEP less as a clinical fact and more as an emotional gap between what they were taught to fear and what's actually true now.

What commenters described: I grew up in the Rent era of the US, where we finally knew just how awful it could be but didn't have solutions. Now it's like a tough but manageable illness with pretty accessible prophylactic therapy.

Methamphetamine harms arise from the drug itself as well as sleep deprivation; saying most adverse effects are merely lost sleep is false
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What the pattern means: This entry's single comment argues the opposite of the overstatement the label pushes back on, attributing "most" of meth's adverse effects to resulting sleep deprivation rather than the drug itself, with no counter-comment in the thread to challenge that framing.

What commenters described: Most of the adverse symptoms of meth use comes from this type of lack of sleep, not the meth itself

Peritoneal dialysis removes wastes and excess fluid across the peritoneal membrane, but equating it with experimental plasma dilution is an untested analogy.
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What the pattern means: A commenter draws a speculative bridge from young-blood rat experiments to dialysis, reasoning that if saline alone reproduced the rejuvenating effect, the real mechanism might just be flushing out waste that aging kidneys have stopped clearing efficiently.

What commenters described: Old animals have kidneys that are less effective, and both experiments functioned by removing cruft that the kidneys didn't.

Diabetes is a leading cause of kidney failure in the United States, so it accounts for a substantial share of people starting kidney-replacement therapy.
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What the pattern means: A commenter notes matter-of-factly that a large share of dialysis patients end up there because of diabetes complications rather than primary kidney disease.

What commenters described: A large percentage of these patients are on dialysis as a complication from their diabetes.

Rabies travels through peripheral nerves toward the central nervous system, which creates a window for PEP before symptoms, but treatment decisions should not wait for symptoms or be improvised without public-health guidance.
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What the pattern means: A commenter explains the grim logic behind post-exposure rabies treatment, that the virus has to physically climb the nervous system before reaching the brain, which is exactly the slow window that gives a vaccine time to build immunity before symptoms would otherwise start.

What commenters described: It can take long enough to get to the brain through your nervous system that the triggered immune response from the vaccine has time to work.

Limit: That same window disappears once symptoms start: it's why you're 'fucked' once the virus has already reached the brain.

Clinical rabies is nearly always fatal, but “100% kill rate” and “not one survivor” erase rare documented survivors; no reliably curative protocol exists.
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What the pattern means: A long, viscerally detailed copypasta walks through rabies' progression from an unnoticed bat bite to a slow, symptomless incubation and finally a rapid, irreversible collapse once symptoms begin, closing on the claim that literally nothing can be done at that stage.

What commenters described: The rabies will multiply along your nervous system, doing virtually no damage, and completely undetectable. You literally have NO symptoms... it may be four days, it may be a year.

Limit: The post's absolute framing ('100% kill rate,' 'not one survivor') glosses over the rare, real survivors documented under the Milwaukee Protocol, even though the post itself concedes that protocol usually still ends in death or severe disability.

Acupuncture or chiropractic care should not replace evidence-based diabetes treatment
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What the pattern means: A commenter describes watching a family member's diabetes worsen for years after alternative medicine replaced conventional treatment, framing the woman's premature aging and now-uncertain life expectancy as the direct cost of that choice.

Limit: She's in her mid-50s but looks 90 years old, and it's now a crapshoot whether she'll live another decade after finally restarting real treatment.

The assertion that a vast majority of sexually active gay men use PrEP and the quoted 80% misunderstanding rate are personal estimates, not population data.
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What the pattern means: A commenter describes PrEP being so misunderstood that a dental intake worker flagged their chart as HIV-positive despite direct correction, and quietly warned the dentist to take 'special care' based on that false assumption.

Limit: The 'vast majority' and '80% of the time' figures are the commenter's personal impression from their own social circle and interactions, not a cited study or population statistic.

The 'penis facial' label sensationalizes cosmetics using conditioned media from cultured fibroblast lines originally derived from neonatal foreskin
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What the pattern means: The original poster relays a genuinely eyebrow-raising Ellen show mention almost verbatim, a skincare treatment nicknamed for its unusual cell-culture origin, without questioning what the marketing term actually refers to.

Limit: The sensational 'penis facial' framing obscures that these treatments use conditioned media from long-established, lab-cultured fibroblast lines, not fresh tissue.

Nazi and Unit 731 experiments were criminal and often scientifically invalid; they did not secretly supply a large reliable foundation for modern anatomy
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What the pattern means: A commenter's claim that wartime experiments quietly built the foundation of modern anatomy gets undercut by the reply beneath it, which notes data collected without proper method was largely garbage and real trauma-medicine advances instead came from Iraq and Afghanistan.

What commenters described: the Iraq and Afghanistan wars taught us a lot about trauma and anatomy. Redefining things like tourniquet use.

Limit: a lot of that data was garbage because they didn't use the scientific method

That priority does not automatically extend to a donor’s loved ones; private paired-donation or voucher programs are separate and cannot be described as putting a small list of relatives at the top of the national waitlist.
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What the pattern means: A commenter frames kidney donation as effectively banking a backup organ for yourself and close relatives, describing priority placement on the transplant list as a built-in safety net.

What commenters described: Donating a kidney puts you and a small list of your loved ones at the top of the list for receiving a donated kidney, if someday you need one.

Most human-associated bacterial cells are in the colon, and the gastrointestinal lumen is separated from internal tissues by the mucosal epithelium; calling the body a donut is a useful topological metaphor, not a complete anatomical description.
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What the pattern means: A commenter argues most human-associated bacteria technically live 'outside' the body by sitting in the digestive tract, likening a person's overall structure to a donut wrapped around that central hole.

What commenters described: We are basically a donut and the digestive tract is the hole in the center which our meat and bones are wrapped around.

Schizophrenia has not been shown to transfer between people through bone-marrow transplantation
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What the pattern means: A single confident claim asserts schizophrenia can pass to another person through a bone-marrow transplant, offered with no supporting mechanism or citation for how a psychiatric condition would transfer this way.

What commenters described: schizophrenia can be transferred to other people through bone marrow transplants

Limit: No mechanism or source accompanies the claim, and nothing else in the record explains how a bone-marrow transplant would transmit a psychiatric condition.

A fecal microbiota transplant has not been shown to transfer menopause or a donor's complex hormonal traits to the recipient
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What the pattern means: A single anecdotal claim -- a man reportedly developing his mother's menopause symptoms after receiving her fecal transplant -- is offered with a link but no corroborating detail about how or why that would occur biologically.

What commenters described: This guy did it with his mum's poo and then began getting menopause symptoms like her.

Limit: The claim rests on one anecdote with no explanation of a biological pathway by which hormonal traits like menopause symptoms would transfer.

Hand hygiene, sterilization, antisepsis, sanitation, and germ theory dramatically reduced infection, but bacteria did not simply stop killing people once doctors began washing
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What the pattern means: A terse one-liner credits handwashing with ending bacterial deaths, compressed into a claim that skips over sanitation, sterilization, and antisepsis as separate contributing factors.

What commenters described: bacteria aka "germs" killed people all the time until doctors started washing their hands and instruments

Limit: Crediting handwashing alone skips the parallel roles of sterilization, antisepsis, and broader sanitation in reducing infection deaths.

There is no evidence that Toxoplasma infection explains ordinary cat affection, cat fandom, or hostile reactions to criticism of cats
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What the pattern means: The Toxoplasma-explains-cat-love theory gets dismantled point by point in the replies, mainly by noting that people show the identical intensity of devotion toward dogs, an animal with no comparable parasite story.

What commenters described: People do not love cats more than dogs, that would be ignoring most of human history

Limit: Multiple replies note humans show the same devotion toward dogs, which the parasite theory can't explain.

Some distal human fingertip amputations can regenerate when critical nail structures remain, especially in children, but this is not a universal late-childhood WNT1 switch and it does not imply whole-limb regrowth
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What the pattern means: Readers compare childhood fingertip injuries, some describing scarless regrowth and others a permanently missing tip, which shows how inconsistent the regeneration window is even among people recalling similar-sounding accidents.

What commenters described: I degloved my whole fingertip after getting it stuck when I was a kid as well, yet I have no scar from it.

Limit: there are numerous cases of children losing fingertips without regrowing them, and the reason isn't something that's fully understood

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Unfortunately comes with high infection risk and the fluid is 2-4% dextrose, so really rough for someone with diabetes.

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Unfortunately, a large percentage of these patients are on dialysis as a complication from their diabetes.

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I know what you’re talking about and I don’t care if the phrasing is accurate—the way you worded it is hilarious and I love it 😆

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Was it really that magical?! I had a referral for it but the closest clinic is over an hour away which isn't feasible for daily treatment. But if I moved closer, it's worth it?

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TMS because what do you mean brain magnets fixed thirty seven years of anxiety and depression in six weeks?

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Across this set, physically dramatic claims about the body -- prion disease, HIV treatment history, peritoneal dialysis, fecal microbiota transplants, rabies, organ donation -- consistently hold up well because they're anchored in commenters' direct clinical or lived experience, while claims about consciousness and memory (confabulation, inner monologue, split-brain effects) get stretched furthest beyond the underlying finding, usually by a commenter's own dramatic reframing. The sharpest corrections come from other commenters in the same thread rather than an outside fact-check: a stats-literate reply catching a suspiciously round death toll, someone noting a dementia patient invents details rather than admit a gap in understanding, a colleague pointing out HeLa is one of thousands of cell lines still used daily in labs, not a singular miracle.

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The Monster is the largest sporadic finite simple group, with about 8×10^53 elements and a smallest nontrivial complex representation of dimension 196,883
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What the pattern means: One long, patient explainer walks from the plain definition of a mathematical group down to why the Monster is the largest of the 26 sporadic simple groups, with roughly 8x10^53 elements, then ends on a strikingly honest note that mathematicians still don't actually know why an object with those exact dimensions exists.

What commenters described: The Monster has ~8*10^53 elements in it, and describes the symmetries of an object that exists in 196,884 dimensions.

Limit: We have no idea why it exists.

Frequency hopping is an anti-jamming spread-spectrum technique and can contribute to secure communications, but calling it the first widespread form of encryption is inaccurate; later wireless systems used related spread-spectrum concepts with materially different implementations.
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What the pattern means: The Hedy Lamarr frequency-hopping story gets repeated here as 'the first widespread form of encryption,' but the same comment admits the original torpedo-jamming application wasn't practical to install, which undercuts 'widespread' even as the underlying spread-spectrum idea proved foundational later.

What commenters described: her work was revolutionary, and was a cornerstone for many of the advancements that followed

Limit: It was meant to help protect radio guided torpedos from jamming, but wasn't practical to install.

Antenna performance does depend on geometry, operating frequency, materials, nearby structures, impedance matching, and the rest of the radio-frequency circuit, so the comment’s design-dependence point is sound.
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What the pattern means: A former-sounding RF hobbyist argues the core idea behind antennas is intuitive once you grasp resonance and how a broadcast works, but concedes the real complexity shows up in how much a working design depends on the surrounding circuit, the chosen materials, and even the housing around the antenna itself.

What commenters described: once you grasp the basics it's actually pretty reasonable... It gets wild when the antenna design is dependent on the what else is in the circuit, what material is being used, antenna housing, etc.

Error-correcting codes add structured redundancy so receivers can detect or correct transmission errors, while beamforming combines antenna elements with controlled phases or delays to shape directionality.
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What the pattern means: A self-described former RF worker reframes the whole 'black magic' feel of wireless communication as just modulating a carrier wave the way a voice modulates air, and backs up how far the low-tech end of the hobby goes with an anecdote about hams making intercontinental contact using nothing more exotic than a ladder as an antenna.

What commenters described: I've seen people make inter-continental contacts using a ladder as an antenna.

Raising a taut loop six feet everywhere above a spherical Earth requires only 12π extra feet—about 37.7 feet
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What the pattern means: This one is pure geometry dressed up as a discovery: circle the Earth with a string held six feet up everywhere, and the extra length needed is a fixed 2π times six feet regardless of how big the sphere actually is, and a commenter checks the arithmetic themselves.

What commenters described: Circumference = 2 * pi * r. Add 6 feet of radius, circumference grows by 6 * 2 * pi ~ 37.68 feet. Checks out.

Research has used commodity Wi-Fi channel-state information to sense heartbeats and respiration, including multiple people under controlled conditions, but this does not establish reliable whole-house occupancy counting solely from heartbeats in arbitrary homes.
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What the pattern means: The starting claim here is a real capability: researchers have used ordinary Wi-Fi signal disruptions to detect people's heartbeats and count occupants in a room, presented by the commenter as just the opening move in a much bigger surveillance trajectory.

What commenters described: Wi-Fi sensors can now determine how many people are in a house just by detecting heartbeats.

Wi-Fi sensing research raises real privacy concerns, but identifying age or sex through walls and reconstructing exact conversations from a drive-by receiver are speculative extensions not demonstrated by the cited evidence.
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What the pattern means: The same comment's next leap goes well past what's demonstrated: identifying a person's age or sex through a wall, or driving by a house and reconstructing exact conversations, are framed as inevitable next steps rather than things any cited research has actually shown.

What commenters described: I'm sure that in time, we'll be able to 'see' through walls and identify if someone is a man, woman, child, or elderly... you'll eventually be able to drive up to any home and overhear exactly what everyone is saying.

Limit: The commenter's own hedge, "I'm sure that in time," signals this is a prediction, not a description of a demonstrated capability.

The Banach–Tarski theorem depends on the axiom of choice and non-measurable point sets; it cannot duplicate a physical ball
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What the pattern means: The single reply here is pure frustration rather than explanation, singling out the axiom of choice and Banach-Tarski as the part of math that feels most like a trick, a reaction that undersells how the paradox depends on non-measurable, physically impossible pieces rather than any real way to duplicate a solid ball.

What commenters described: Absolutely everything that has to do with the axiom of choice.

Machine-learning systems do learn in the technical sense that training algorithms adjust model parameters from data; at inference time they execute the resulting learned model, so “they are only running an algorithm and are not learning” conflates training with inference.
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What the pattern means: Pattern completion doesn't count as learning at all, one reply insists, arguing that generating text from existing material is fundamentally different from acquiring new capacity — a harder line than the training-versus-inference distinction the item's own synthesis draws.

What commenters described: Its basically hallucinating letters, words, and sentences based on what already exists, not making anything new.

Limit: The comment conflates training and inference into a single 'they are running an algorithm' claim, which is the exact conflation the item's synthesis says is mistaken.

Researchers recovered sound from tiny object vibrations recorded by a high-speed camera—the 'visual microphone'—but the demonstration did not aim a laser at a houseplant
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What the pattern means: The commenter's memory of the MIT 'visual microphone' research has drifted over a decade -- recalling a laser aimed through a window at a houseplant, a detail that doesn't match how the technique actually recovers sound from vibration.

What commenters described: There was a study I think from MIT where they take a laser at a house plant and they can overhear what you're saying inside a room.

Limit: The commenter's recollection of a laser aimed at a houseplant is a retelling, not a description of the actual high-speed-camera method.

Large language models generate probability distributions over tokens and can compose outputs not copied verbatim from training examples; hallucination refers specifically to plausible but false or inconsistent output, not to every generated sentence.
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What the pattern means: A commenter argues AI systems aren't really 'intelligent' by any meaningful definition, describing large language model output as recombining existing patterns rather than learning, a framing that conflates every generated sentence with hallucination.

What commenters described: Its basically hallucinating letters, words, and sentences based on what already exists, not making anything new.

The gravitational N-body problem generally lacks a simple closed-form solution and can be chaotic, though its equations are deterministic
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What the pattern means: The gravitational N-body problem gets flagged as genuinely strange precisely because its rules are so simple and deterministic, yet the resulting motion still can't be predicted with a closed-form solution.

What commenters described: that something so simple, so mechanistic is actually unpredictable.

Brain efficiency does not establish that recursive AI self-improvement will occur or that smartphone-sized systems will exceed human intelligence within decades; those are technology forecasts without demonstrated timelines.
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What the pattern means: A forecast about AI eventually running in smartphone-sized hardware while dwarfing human intelligence leans on a real fact — the brain's low power draw — to support a timeline that is otherwise pure speculation with no demonstrated evidence behind the 'few decades' guess.

Limit: I predict it won't be too many decades — offered as personal forecast, not as something the brain-efficiency fact actually establishes.

GĂśdel's incompleteness theorems apply to sufficiently expressive formal systems, not every dictionary or rule-based categorization
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What the pattern means: One commenter reaches for GĂśdel's incompleteness theorem to argue that any categorization system must sacrifice either full coverage or internal consistency, and the reply extends the idea with a concrete example: a monolingual dictionary can't define every word without circularity, and eliminating the circularity just leaves some words undefined.

What commenters described: you can't make a monolingual dictionary without circular definition, and if you avoid that, it would be an incomplete dictionary, some words would be undefined

Whether current systems deserve the broad label “intelligent” is partly definitional, while technical reports document both substantial task capabilities and important limitations; the categorical claim cannot be settled merely by noting that software executes algorithms.
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What the pattern means: Weighing in on whether to call current AI systems “intelligent,” one commenter draws a hard line, insisting the emphasis is backwards — it's artificial *intelligence*, not artificial *intelligence* — because the systems recombine existing patterns rather than genuinely learning anything new.

What commenters described: Its basically hallucinating letters, words, and sentences based on what already exists, not making anything new.

Communications systems encode information by modulating an electromagnetic carrier; a receiver captures and demodulates the signal, and a speaker can then convert the recovered electrical signal into sound.
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What the pattern means: One commenter voices genuine disbelief at the basic premise of broadcast technology, wondering aloud how music, video, and information can ride on radio waves — themselves just invisible light — and admitting the physics still doesn't click for them.

What commenters described: information, music, videos, etc can be transmitted by radio waves(which itself is just invisible light)? I still don't understand how that actually works.

Eternal inflation is a theoretical consequence of some inflation models, not an observed infinity of alternate realities
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What the pattern means: One commenter runs eternal inflation to its most whimsical logical extreme, imagining infinite parallel realities that include a universe where dinosaurs developed bureaucracy but never discovered fire, treating a genuine theoretical consequence of some inflation models as though it were an already-confirmed multiverse.

What commenters described: there may be infinitely many versions of reality constantly materializing into existence... somewhere out there is probably a universe where dinosaurs developed bureaucracy but never discovered fire

Hedy Lamarr and George Antheil co-developed and patented a synchronized frequency-hopping system intended to resist jamming of radio-guided torpedoes; the U.S. Navy did not deploy their design during World War II.
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What the pattern means: A commenter's favorite factoid does real work reframing a Hollywood name: Hedy Lamarr's frequency-hopping patent, meant to stop torpedo-guidance jamming, became foundational to encryption even though the Navy never actually installed her original design.

What commenters described: Hedy Lamarr, the beautiful Hollywood starlet, co-invented frequency hopping, the first widespread form of encryption.

Limit: The system wasn't practical to install at the time, so its wartime impact came only decades later as a technological precedent.

A radio receiver does not make an antenna produce sound directly: it collects electromagnetic energy, selects and demodulates the encoded signal, and drives a transducer such as a speaker to create acoustic waves.
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What the pattern means: A commenter compares radio broadcasting to ordinary speech, arguing that once you grasp modulating a carrier wave the same way you shape sounds with your throat, the whole idea stops sounding like 'space wizardry.'

What commenters described: once you grasp the basics it's actually pretty reasonable... making something produce “sound”

Radio communication encodes information by modulating a carrier; the receiver collects the electromagnetic wave, demodulates it, and recovers analog information or digital symbols.
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What the pattern means: A former RF worker likens radio transmission to speech, describing modulation as shaping a carrier wave the same way vocal cords shape sound, and recalls hearing of ham operators making intercontinental contacts using nothing more exotic than a ladder as an antenna.

What commenters described: I've seen people make inter-continental contacts using a ladder as an antenna.

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Absolutely everything that has to do with the axiom of choice. I'm not sure if math is counted as science. But fuck the banach tarski and their paradoxon.

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Was using the microphone. lol I have no idea why it does that sometimes.

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I'm confused with this one a bit. What does the email have to do with anything?

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Across this category, absolute-sounding claims about minds, math, and machines keep getting corrected by whoever runs the actual numbers or cites the actual study: cosmic-velocity arithmetic for the Great Attractor checks out to within a few percent of the commenter's own estimate, a half-million-child cohort study is treated by some as decisive evidence and dismissed by others as too small to rule out coincidence, and one single comment about AI 'hallucinating' patterns gets split into three separate technical corrections about training versus inference. A few standalone items -- directional photoreceptors, a Wi-Fi-through-walls extrapolation, the axiom of choice powering Banach-Tarski -- show the same lesson in miniature: the surprising-sounding mechanism is usually real and modest, while the sci-fi extension bolted onto it is usually someone's unverified guess.

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Scientific claim or discovery and how commenters explained or corrected it: Measurement, scale, and other science claims

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Homophobia and the early association of AIDS with gay men contributed to stigma, but the reply’s claim about a specific D.A.R.E. officer’s beliefs is speculation.
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What the pattern means: Discussing D.A.R.E. and AIDS-era stigma, one commenter connects the era's homophobia to how a specific officer probably misunderstood transmission routes, but that read on the officer's personal beliefs is the commenter's own inference rather than anything documented.

What commenters described: AIDS was seen as a disease only for gay people in a country with rampant homophobia for a long time.

Limit: The claim about what the officer specifically believed is speculation layered onto a real historical pattern of stigma, not a sourced fact about that individual.

Calling D.A.R.E. a pyramid scheme for off-duty police is an unsupported characterization.
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What the pattern means: Summarizing D.A.R.E. for context, the same commenter tosses in that some critics compare its structure to 'a pyramid scheme for off-duty police,' a colorful characterization presented alongside the facts rather than backed by any cited source.

What commenters described: Some argue it functioned like a pyramid scheme for off-duty police.

D.A.R.E. was founded in 1983 as a police-delivered school drug-prevention program.
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What the pattern means: The more solid part of the same D.A.R.E. rundown is its history: founded in 1983 as a police-led school program against drugs and peer pressure, with a cited 2003 report finding no significant effect on actual drug use.

What commenters described: D.A.R.E. (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) is a 1983-founded program... a 2003 report finding no significant impact on drug use.

Midgley died after becoming entangled in a pulley-and-rope mobility device he devised following polio; authoritative biographies classify the death as accidental, not established suicide
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What the pattern means: A commenter states flatly that Thomas Midgley Jr.'s death is 'accepted as a suicide,' though the more commonly cited biographical account describes an accidental entanglement in a pulley-and-rope device he built himself after being disabled by polio.

What commenters described: Thomas Midgley jr. His death is accepted as a suicide.

Limit: This framing runs against the standard biographical record, which classifies the death as an accident rather than a confirmed suicide.

When a person walks, forces are exchanged with Earth and both bodies move, but Earth's displacement is extraordinarily tiny
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What the pattern means: The physics gets compressed into one deadpan line: when you walk, the ground pushes back up against your feet just as hard as you push down, a plain Newton's-third-law fact stated without any hint of how vanishingly small Earth's own resulting motion actually is.

What commenters described: as you walk, the ground also rises to your feet.

A conductive object such as a ladder can function as part of an antenna under suitable frequency, geometry, feed, grounding, and impedance conditions, but an anecdotal intercontinental contact does not mean arbitrary wires are efficient antennas.
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What the pattern means: A former RF engineer explains radio communication through the analogy of speech itself, a carrier wave standing in for a voice and modulation standing in for words, before mentioning almost as an aside that ham radio operators have made intercontinental contact using nothing more exotic than a ladder.

What commenters described: I've seen people make inter-continental contacts using a ladder as an antenna.

Limit: This is offered as something the commenter personally witnessed among ham operators, not a claim that any random wire or ladder works efficiently as an antenna.

Australian government records confirm Churchill requested a live platypus and one was dispatched from Australia in September 1943.
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What the pattern means: A wartime aside turns into an oddly specific historical footnote: a platypus reportedly sent to Churchill was killed when its transport ship was struck by a U-boat, and the stuffed animal supposedly ended up on his desk.

What commenters described: Winston Churchill wanted a pet platypus, and one was sent from Australia in 1943... the ship was struck by a German U-boat. The boat survived, but the platypus did not.

The reply’s specific account of a U-boat strike, the exact timing of the animal’s death, and Churchill keeping that same mounted specimen requires stronger archival support than the removed podcast reference provides.
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What the pattern means: The same Churchill-platypus anecdote resurfaces here with its sourcing under more scrutiny: a podcast reference underlying the U-boat timeline and mounted-specimen detail was apparently removed from the original account.

What commenters described: A platypus was also a fatality involving a German U-boat.

Limit: The specific timing of the platypus's death and the claim that Churchill kept that exact mounted specimen rest on a podcast reference that was removed from the reply.

Meta-analysis of the original D.A.R.E. curriculum found small, statistically nonsignificant effects on drug use; this finding should not be generalized automatically to every later redesign.
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What the pattern means: Personal school memories of D.A.R.E.—officers letting kids smell weed, PCP scare tactics, one commenter's own pilot-program cringe—build a picture of a program remembered as ineffective or worse, echoing the 2003 report's null finding.

What commenters described: It was invented by some LAPD freaks for the express purpose of making kids more 'comfortable' with cops, and to normalize their presence in schools.

English “bear” is related to words for brown, but the thread’s “wrecker,” Arctic, and taboo-loss story overstates what the cited etymology establishes
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What the pattern means: The 'bear means wrecker' etymology gets passed around as proof our ancestors feared saying the animal's real name, but a direct request for sourcing on the wreck connection goes unanswered in the thread.

What commenters described: They were so scared/respectful, they called it things like "honey-eater" or "the brown one" instead of its name.

Limit: do you have any sources for the connection to "wreck"?

Shark-lineage fossils predate the first trees, and Saturn's bright rings are probably much younger than sharks, though ring age remains actively debated
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What the pattern means: Comparing shark age to Saturn's rings turns into a small chain of one-upping facts, as a reply notes the nautilus lineage had to wait tens of millions of years before sharks even showed up.

What commenters described: the Nautilus had to wait 50 million years before the first shark appeared. It's even older.

The Appalachians do not predate surface life, while TON 618 really is an extreme distant quasar—but both viral descriptions need major age, fossil, distance, and size corrections
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What the pattern means: One user's pair of 'brain-breaking' facts gets corrected from only one side: a reply confirms the Appalachians once rivaled the Himalayas in height, quietly leaving the far shakier 'predates all surface life' framing unaddressed.

What commenters described: the Appalachian mountains used to be around the same height if not taller than the Himalayas. What we see now is their ancient roots.

The early HIV/AIDS epidemic generated severe stigma and discrimination, including treatment of people with HIV as social outcasts.
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What the pattern means: Two commenters who lived through the early epidemic describe a specific social cruelty: people who admitted having HIV were treated as outcasts, with one directly comparing the panic to COVID but layered with blame and shame.

What commenters described: People were TERRIFIED. Nobody knew what could transmit it. It had the same panic as covid, but with finger pointing, blaming, shame and abandonment for anyone who got it.

Supercluster-scale structures are generally not gravitationally bound and accelerated expansion can prevent eventual arrival, but the Great Attractor is a velocity-flow basin rather than a fixed destination.
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What the pattern means: A commenter adds a genuinely unsettling wrinkle to the Great Attractor discussion, pointing out that space's accelerating expansion means we may never actually arrive there even though we're technically being pulled toward it.

What commenters described: we'll never get there because space is expanding faster than we're being pulled

A pre-flood atmospheric bubble is not a scientific explanation for giant fossils, polar climates, or the geologic record
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What the pattern means: A homeschool-education memory recounts being taught that a pre-flood atmospheric bubble explained giant fossils and warm polar climates, with the commenter noting only in hindsight how much of their early education skipped mainstream science.

What commenters described: before the great flood, there was a bubble around the earth that made the earth like a giant greenhouse. Creatures grew really big and lived in places that are now covered in ice.

Being on the opposite side of the Milky Way would not automatically guarantee a better view of the Great Attractor; future obscuration geometry and observational capability are not established by the orbital period.
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What the pattern means: Asked why we can't get a clearer look at the Great Attractor right now, one reply answers with orbital mechanics alone: wait roughly 125 million years for the galaxy's rotation to carry Earth to the far side, treating a better vantage point as purely a matter of time rather than dust, distance, or telescope capability.

What commenters described: in about 125 million years we'll be on the other side of the galaxy and can get a better look

Concluding from that number alone that we are definitely moving away and will never reach the flow basin is too categorical.
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What the pattern means: Pushing back on the idea that we're simply drifting toward the Great Attractor, one reply flips the framing entirely: cosmic expansion means the Milky Way is still net moving away from it, just marginally slower than it otherwise would without that gravitational tug.

What commenters described: we are actually moving away from it, but our movement away is just 700 km/s slower than it would be without that attraction

Applying that straight-line time to the Great Attractor is only illustrative because the Great Attractor is a reconstructed flow basin, not a fixed destination approached at constant speed.
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What the pattern means: Trying to make the Great Attractor's staggering distance feel concrete, one commenter runs the numbers at a constant 700 km/s and lands on roughly 400 years per light-year, concluding we'll “probably be fine” across 150 to 250 million light-years — a comforting shortcut that treats a rough velocity estimate as if it were a fixed travel speed toward a real destination.

What commenters described: At 700 km/s, it would take ~400 years to travel 1 light-year. The Great Attractor is 150-250 million light years away. We'll probably be fine.

At a constant 700 km/s, one light-year would take about 428 years, so the reply’s approximately 400-year figure is reasonable.
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What the pattern means: Checking the arithmetic behind that same 700 km/s estimate, the math holds up closely: covering one light-year at that speed actually takes about 428 years, close enough to the commenter's rounded “400 years” that the casual reassurance about the Great Attractor's timeline survives a second look.

Castration was historically performed during some premodern groin-hernia operations
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What the pattern means: Disbelief runs through this thread until someone actually supplies a citation, tracing how gelders kept castrating hernia patients into the 18th century while academic surgeons slowly built trusses and safer techniques instead.

What commenters described: There were numerous attempts to repair a hernia without castration, but these were on the whole unsuccessful... the gelders, who continued to castrate many children and adults in the course of repairing their rupture.

Limit: One reader flatly refused to believe routine castration-for-hernia was ever common practice until pressed for a source.

Boquila trifoliolata can mimic nearby foliage; plastic-leaf mimicry remains controversial
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What the pattern means: The vine's leaf-mimicry claim gets less scrutiny here than the tangent it spins off into, bat and bee vision, until one commenter with horticulture credentials calls the underlying study's logic backwards: it saw varied leaf shapes and inferred deliberate mimicry rather than testing for it.

Limit: There's a reason that most plant scientists don't take that research seriously, according to one reply, which argues the study inferred mimicry rather than demonstrating it.

Bears can sprint above 30 mph, but “as fast as the average horse” is an imprecise comparison of short bursts with variable horse gaits
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What the pattern means: Firsthand encounter stories, a truck-sized grizzly crossing a road, a bison that turns out to be a bear, all land on the same note of disbelief that something so bulky moves that fast, while a couple of replies push back that a typical horse gallop is close enough to make the comparison murky.

What commenters described: I saw this reel on instagram the other day of a grizzly running at full speed and it was terrifying. I had no idea they ran so fast.

Limit: Several commenters note the bear can't hold that sprint speed for long, and one insists ordinary horses gallop just as fast or faster.

Dogs may alert or deter in individual encounters, but they can also provoke bears and bring a pursuing bear back to people
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What the pattern means: Small-dog bravery stories dominate here, a Pomeranian treeing a black bear, a cairn terrier ready to bite at ankles, alongside named breeds like Karelian Bear Dogs bred specifically for the job, but one account of a real charge admits there's no way to know whether the dog provoked the bear or scared it off.

What commenters described: Karelian Bear Dogs and Akitas will both defend against bears, it's a breed trait for both.

Limit: There's a good chance the dog was the cause of the aggression in the first place, one reply warns, since dogs and bears often don't mix well.

Kodiak bears and polar bears are enormous, but speculative bear-versus-gorilla outcomes and internet strength or bite-force figures are not scientific comparisons
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What the pattern means: One commenter actually looks up the numbers mid-argument and finds the popular 3x size claim runs a bit hot, while another blames King Kong-era movies for inflating how big gorillas seem next to the true bulk of a Kodiak or polar bear.

What commenters described: Kodiak Bear - 10-11 feet tall, 1,600-1,700 lbs. Gorilla - 6 feet tall, 500 lbs.

Limit: '3X bigger' is a slight overshot, one reply concludes after checking, even while agreeing the size gap is real.

Haplodiploidy determines sex in many Hymenoptera
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What the pattern means: The reception here is mostly delighted, jokes about PhBs and bee facts dropping, but a genuine follow-up question about whether only the queen reproduces gets a careful answer: other females sometimes try, they just rarely succeed.

What commenters described: Eh.....Some of the others try, but they usually don't succeed.

Lobsters express telomerase broadly and may show negligible senescence, but they are not proven biologically immortal
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What the pattern means: Someone calls the 'biological immortality' framing tautological right out of the gate, which pushes other repliers to actually explain the telomerase mechanism while conceding the word 'immortal' is doing more marketing than biology.

What commenters described: Lobster don't senesce... lobster can live incredibly long lives, theoretically eternally, because they produce a lot of telomerase, which repairs and extends the telomeres in their chromosomes.

Limit: Immortality is a bit of a stretch I'll admit, one defender concedes, prompting another commenter to ask flatly: so they're mortal then?

Alpha-gal sensitivity can lessen after avoiding further tick bites, but remission is variable and recurrence or persistent severe allergy can occur
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What the pattern means: Recovery stories contradict each other on timeline: some people's sensitivity clears within months, one account describes 30 years of persistent GI distress from cross-contamination, and another says the allergy actually toggles on and off depending on how much red meat is being eaten at the time.

What commenters described: My dad has it and it comes and goes. If he eats a lot of red meat in a given period of time it goes away but if he stops and only eats chicken for a while it'll come back.

Limit: The only person I know that has it has had it for 30 years, one reply notes, with even cross-contamination triggering severe GI distress.

Aphantasia has not been established as protection against schizophrenia
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What the pattern means: Speculation runs well ahead of evidence in this short thread: a secondhand claim that aphantasia might protect against schizophrenia spins into guesses about whether hallucinations would be auditory instead of visual, but nobody actually supplies a source for the original premise.

Limit: I read somewhere that if you have aphantasia you are also less likely to suffer from schizophrenia, the opening comment admits, without citing where.

CT reconstructs cross-sectional images from many x-ray projections; unlike MRI, the x-ray source and detector assembly rotate
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What the pattern means: The technically inclined commenters here get more excited about what CT machines can do, resolving chip wire bonds or fossils buried inside rock, than about the scan geometry itself, though a couple of replies still have to correct the basic point that it's the CT gantry that spins, not the MRI.

What commenters described: I've read articles where they CT'd rocks to get pictures of the fossils inside.

A 52-card deck has 52! possible orders—about 8.07×10^67—making a well-shuffled exact order overwhelmingly likely to be historically unique
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What the pattern means: Multiple separate commenters land on the identical framing without any coordination, more possible shuffles than atoms or stars in the universe, which suggests the factorial math hits people viscerally even without anyone actually running the calculation themselves.

What commenters described: There are actually more possible arrangements in a standard 52 card deck than there are stars in the known universe.

Auricular acupuncture marketed as SAAT is not a proven cure for alpha-gal syndrome; the often-cited 96% figure came from an uncontrolled retrospective self-report series
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What the pattern means: Word-of-mouth success for SAAT acupuncture traces back again and again to the same single uncontrolled study, and even a sympathetic commenter admits the allergy often resolves on its own around the same time the treatment gets the credit.

What commenters described: The (singular) study on the treatment claims 96% effectiveness, the doctors who do it here claim ~88% effectiveness, and it's worked on everyone I know personally.

Limit: This is an ailment that goes away after a certain time, one skeptic points out, so the person is 'cured' and acupuncture proponents claim victory.

People with schizophrenia have substantially elevated premature mortality from physical illness and suicide
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What the pattern means: Replies here move quickly past the statistic itself into specific mechanisms, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and a lack of preventive care, with homelessness flagged as a particularly large factor behind the shortened lifespan rather than the illness alone.

What commenters described: cardiovascular problems, hypertension, diabetes, obesity, and lack of preventive care causing early death. Homelessness was big factor too.

Ignaz Semmelweis faced professional resistance, was committed to an asylum, was beaten there, and died soon afterward—likely from sepsis—but evidence does not establish an assassination ordered by rival doctors
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What the pattern means: The thread pushes the well-documented tragedy a step further than the record supports, with one commenter reading the asylum beating as a deliberate assassination arranged by rival doctors to protect themselves, an inference the underlying facts of his committal and death don't actually establish.

Limit: Reading between the lines, that means he was assassinated by orderlies in order to protect the doctors, one commenter concludes, beyond what's documented.

High oxygen partial pressure can cause pulmonary or central-nervous-system toxicity, so divers manage exposure and breathing-gas mixtures
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What the pattern means: Divers explain the practical tradeoff in plain terms: enough oxygen to breathe but a lower percentage at depth to avoid toxicity, with nitrogen narcosis raised right alongside it as the mirror-image problem on the other side of the gas mix.

What commenters described: Really deep dives involve tri-mix. You need enough oxygen to breath but at deep depths the percentage must be lowered so it is not toxic.

Hairy frogs produce defensive bony claws by breaking through the skin; how the claws retract remains incompletely observed
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What the pattern means: What lands hardest with commenters isn't that the frog has claws at all but that nothing pulls them back in afterward, the bone just slides passively into the healed toe pad, an image people find more unsettling than the initial break itself.

What commenters described: The craziest part is that they do not actually have muscles to pull the claws back in once the danger is gone. The bone just passively slides back into the toe pad and the skin heals over the wound.

The quoted approximately 700 km/s value is a peculiar velocity, not an acceleration of 700 km/s².
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What the pattern means: Two separate replies independently catch the same unit confusion, insisting that the widely quoted 700 km/s figure describes present speed rather than a runaway rate of acceleration.

What commenters described: Isn't it velocity being talked about here? ... it's not clear that the acceleration is necessarily huge, right?

A repaired retinal detachment can leave central or peripheral visual deficits, but a personal report of recognizing letters without reading them cannot identify the neural mechanism
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What the pattern means: Two commenters describe the identical strange symptom independently of each other, recognizing that letters are present on a page through a damaged eye without being able to actually read what they say, and neither can explain why.

What commenters described: When I see writing with that eye, I can recognize that there are letters, but I don't know what they are.

Female Virginia opossums typically have 13 teats arranged as 12 around one central teat, limiting how many newborns can remain attached
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What the pattern means: One commenter's whimsical image of thirteen pups gathered in a circle to nurse ends up illustrating the real constraint at the heart of the claim: an odd number of teats simply caps how many newborns can hold on at once.

What commenters described: 12 in a circle with one in the middle

Limit: Not sure how the center pup would manage though, one reply wonders, half-joking about the crowding this arrangement creates.

Running downhill is not a validated way to escape a bear
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What the pattern means: A plausible-sounding mechanical explanation for running downhill, something about claw angle and leg build, sits right next to a reply that undercuts the whole strategy by noting bears actually use downhill terrain to gain speed while hunting.

Limit: They're smart enough to hunt by starting at the top of hills, so they gain a lot of speed very quickly on the way down, one reply counters.

The first published food-triggered alpha-gal fatality involved a 47-year-old New Jersey man, not a teenager
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What the pattern means: The same real event gets recalled with different details by different people, one remembers a healthy airline pilot dying after a delayed reaction to a burger, the other cites a New Jersey teenager, showing how quickly the specifics blur once a story like this starts circulating.

Limit: One commenter's memory names a teenager where the actual first published case was a 47-year-old man, an age and identity mismatch neither corrects.

Oxygen supports combustion but is not itself a flammable fuel
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What the pattern means: Commenters marvel at the paradox of breathing a gas that sits right next to fire risk, framing it as stranger than obviously dangerous gases like methane precisely because oxygen itself doesn't burn, it just makes everything else burn faster and easier.

What commenters described: Always been an incredible thought to me that we breathe a flammable gas. Not just any flammable gas, but THE one that is essential for flame.

Limit: The commenter's own phrasing calls oxygen a 'flammable gas,' the exact imprecision the underlying claim is correcting.

A quoted value near 600–700 km/s is a velocity scale, not a directly observed acceleration in km/s²; current flow maps infer gravitational structure from positions, distances, and velocities rather than measuring a year-by-year speed increase.
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What the pattern means: One reply separates the Milky Way's actual recession speed from the mistaken idea that 700 km/s represents runaway acceleration, and a second commenter does the arithmetic to show why reading that number as an acceleration would be physically absurd within a year.

The exact 10^16-solar-mass and four-orders-of-magnitude comparison is not supported by the reviewed authority; describe the Great Attractor qualitatively as a concentration within the Laniakea peculiar-velocity flow basin.
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What the pattern means: A commenter's back-of-envelope comparison, citing the Milky Way's mass to argue the Great Attractor region outweighs it by four orders of magnitude, supplies scale rather than a specific confirmed figure for the region's total mass.

What commenters described: Context, the Milky Way has a mass of 1.5x10^12 solar masses. So it's 4 orders of magnitude greater mass than the Milky Way.

The Milky Way mass is estimated near 1.5 trillion solar masses.
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What the pattern means: The same throwaway line is really where the specific Milky Way mass figure comes from in this thread, used only as an anchor point for the larger comparison being made rather than as a claim in its own right.

What commenters described: the Milky Way has a mass of 1.5x10^12 solar masses

Platypus ultimately comes from Greek roots meaning “flat-footed”; the regular English plural “platypuses” is standard, while “platypi” is based on a false Latin-style analogy.
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What the pattern means: One commenter walks through the Greek root of 'platypus' letter by letter to explain why 'platypi' is simply wrong, landing on 'platypodes' as the pedantically correct but rarely used plural.

What commenters described: Words beginning plural by changing -ua to -i only applies to words derived from Latin. Platypus drives from Greek, meaning "flat foot".

Bats can see; echolocating bats have functional vision as well as biosonar.
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What the pattern means: One commenter interrupts the usual 'blind as a bat' framing to point out that many echolocating species keep decent night vision and aren't relying on sonar because their eyes fail them.

What commenters described: I want to point out here that bats can see. A lot of them have good night vision.

A large-scale concentration of visible and dark matter is the established explanation for the Great Attractor peculiar-velocity field; exotic new phenomena are not required.
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What the pattern means: A single reply dismisses any exotic explanation for the Great Attractor outright, arguing that an ordinary large mass concentration is simply the account that requires the fewest new assumptions.

What commenters described: a large mass (or a large collection of many masses) is the simplest explanation that fits in with everything we know about it, and doesn't require inventing new phenomena

The claim that a blue-yellow mixture is necessarily perceived as blue and yellow simultaneously is an untested phenomenological extrapolation, not a demonstrated subjective percept.
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What the pattern means: Discussion of mantis shrimp color vision veers into an untested aside about whether a mixed color could be seen as genuinely simultaneous rather than blended, a leap the thread raises but never actually sources or tests.

People vary in voluntary control of sneeze vocalization.
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What the pattern means: One comment turns 'can you sneeze quietly' into an accidental natural experiment, contrasting the writer's own voluntary control over sneeze volume against a friend who insists a silent sneeze is simply impossible for him.

What commenters described: I can choose to sneeze loudly, quietly, vocalized or not.

Limit: One of my friends cannot change his sneeze noises at all, and claims it is impossible, the same commenter notes.

The reply conflates vagina and vulva in diaper care; fecal contamination should be gently cleaned from external skin and folds without inserting wipes or products into the vaginal canal.
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What the pattern means: A father describing years of diaper changes draws exactly the line this claim is making, cleaning stays at the external folds unless stool has actually gotten inside, and he notes getting downvoted for saying so plainly.

What commenters described: you don't wipe out the inside of the vagina (unless there's poop in there, which happens more than I knew)

The vagina naturally maintains itself through normal secretions and should not be internally washed or douched; routine cleaning applies to the external vulva.
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What the pattern means: That same parent's comment doubles as a case study in how easily 'don't clean inside' gets misread as 'don't clean at all,' when the actual point is the vagina's own secretions versus the vulva's external surface.

Some far-future models predict matter could tunnel toward iron nuclei if protons are stable, but 'all things become iron' is a speculative timescale-dependent scenario
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What the pattern means: The single supporting comment states the far-future iron prediction as flat fact, with none of the proton-stability conditions or almost unimaginable timescale that make it a speculative model rather than a settled forecast.

The claim that no equivalent of Roman military hospitals existed until World War I is false: Byzantine and Islamic bimaristans, medieval hospitals, and early modern military hospitals long predate 1914
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What the pattern means: This comment repeats a specific claim credited to 'a big name historian,' that no equivalent to Roman military hospitals existed again until World War I, a centuries-long gap the record doesn't actually check against the institutions that filled it.

Hamsters have specialized expandable cheek pouches; guinea pigs do not have the same food-storage pouches, so the correction is sound.
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What the pattern means: A single terse reply sets straight a common small-pet mix-up, the expandable food-storage cheek pouches belong to hamsters, not guinea pigs, which don't have an equivalent.

What commenters described: Guinea pigs don't have cheek pouches, you're thinking of hamsters.

TSMC officially names its backside-power technology A16 and targets production in the second half of 2026, but “1.6 nm” is a process-node label rather than a literal universal transistor dimension; the claim about what many people doubted in 2015 is anecdotal.
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What the pattern means: The comment reaches back to 2015-era skepticism about sub-7nm transistors to marvel at how far chipmaking has come, while treating a marketing process-node label like '1.6nm' as if it literally described a physical transistor dimension.

Saying Shapley is literally pulling “the Great Attractor” treats reconstructed flow regions like discrete objects and is an oversimplification.
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What the pattern means: The same 'Shapley pulling the Great Attractor' line gets flagged here for a subtler issue, it treats a reconstructed flow region as if it were a discrete object with a directional pull, rather than a description of aggregate gravitational influence.

High community MMR coverage provides meaningful indirect protection, but it does not make unvaccinated people safe: measles outbreaks concentrate in pockets below the roughly 95% coverage needed for community immunity, and two doses are 97% effective rather than perfect.
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What the pattern means: A reassurance that unvaccinated people 'aren't dying' glosses over the actual mechanism at work, herd protection only holds up while community coverage stays near the roughly 95% threshold, and it thins out fast in the pockets where it doesn't.

Some U.S. ecological studies report an association between altitude and suicide rates, but they do not establish that elevation causes an individual's suicide
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What the pattern means: The single supporting line states a bald correlation between elevation and suicide rate with no surrounding context to separate a population-level statistical pattern from any claim about what drives an individual's suicide.

The Greek-rooted form is spelled “platypodes,” not “platipodes”; regular English “platypuses” is the standard plural, so no single pedantic form is uniquely required.
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What the pattern means: A reply doubling down on pluralization pedantry trips over its own spelling, writing 'platipodes' when the Greek-derived form is actually spelled 'platypodes,' undercutting the very correction it's trying to make.

What commenters described: the technically correct and pedantic plural is platipodes

Children's jaws contain developing permanent tooth buds beneath and behind primary teeth, which can look dramatic on skull radiographs
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What the pattern means: The founding comment's visceral 'nightmare fuel' reaction is really a response to seeing completely normal tooth development, permanent buds sitting beneath baby teeth, rendered alien-looking once it shows up on an X-ray.

Observational studies associate COVID-19 with increased new dementia diagnoses in older adults, but 'infection doubles dementia incidence' is not a universal causal estimate
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What the pattern means: The founding claim collapses a more nuanced observational association into a flat doubling statistic, stating that COVID infection 'essentially doubles' dementia incidence as though it were a settled universal rate rather than a pattern reported in older adults specifically.

Shapley contributes to large-scale peculiar flows beyond the Great Attractor, but describing every attractor as the center of mass of nested shells is an oversimplification.
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What the pattern means: The same explanation of the Great Attractor as a supercluster's center of mass gets read here as implying a tidy set of nested shells, when describing every attractor that way actually oversimplifies how the surrounding flows are organized.

The Local Group is gravitationally bound and dominated by the Milky Way and Andromeda, but their future merger is not now considered certain.
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What the pattern means: That identical center-of-mass explanation also gets applied to the Local Group specifically here, though the confidence commenters project onto a future Milky Way-Andromeda merger overstates how settled that particular outcome actually is.

“Technological singularity” names a speculative scenario in which sufficiently capable AI drives runaway improvement; there is no empirically established capability threshold showing that improvement would become practically instantaneous.
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What the pattern means: The lone comment defines the singularity in purely theoretical terms, AI improving itself past some threshold into near-instant progress, without pointing to any measured capability that has actually approached that threshold.

The weak interaction violates mirror symmetry (parity)
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What the pattern means: This entry offers nothing more than a two-word drop-in, 'Parity violation,' with zero elaboration on what mirror-symmetry breaking in the weak interaction actually means or why it startled physicists when discovered.

Dachshunds were developed as low, tenacious hunting dogs able to pursue badgers underground
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What the pattern means: A single confirming reply adds real texture to the badger-hunting backstory, describing badgers themselves as 'mean little things' worth breeding a stubborn, low-slung dog specifically to chase underground.

What commenters described: Dachshunds were bred to hunt badgers, which are mean little things, underground. Theyre cute but very tough little guys!

Early moralizing and homophobic responses to AIDS existed, but the reply’s unidentified rabbit/semen journal paper cannot be verified from the details supplied.
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What the pattern means: The one reply insists on a specific but unnamed journal study involving rabbits and semen to back up claims about early homophobic responses to AIDS, detailed enough to sound credible yet too vague to actually verify from what's given.

Limit: The unidentified rabbit/semen study cited can't be verified from the details the commenter actually supplies.

Frontier models have chosen blackmail or sabotage in contrived safety-evaluation simulations; this is not evidence of an AI escaping a real laboratory
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What the pattern means: The founding comment folds together real reports of models choosing blackmail in safety-evaluation tests with the far more dramatic idea of an AI trying to 'escape the lab,' collapsing a contrived test scenario into something that reads like an actual containment breach.

Owls have elongated, largely fixed eyes supported by bony sclerotic rings; they do not rub together inside the skull
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What the pattern means: The single line offered states as flat fact that owls' eyeballs physically rub together inside the skull, a vivid image that sits well outside the real anatomy of elongated, largely immobile eyes braced by bone.

Polar bears have black skin and largely transparent, hollow-looking hairs that scatter visible light and appear white
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What the pattern means: The lone comment gets the mechanism half right, crediting light refracting through the fur, while skipping the equally important detail that the hair shafts are hollow and scatter light rather than transmitting any color at all.

The Holy Roman Empire is conventionally dated from 962, so by 1550 it had existed about 588 years—not 700. Calling it the “First Reich” is a later political convention.
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What the pattern means: A defense of the 'First Reich' framing puts the Holy Roman Empire's age at a round 700 years by 1550, overshooting the conventionally accepted 962 founding date by well over a century.

The reviewed record does not support that President Reagan personally declared AIDS a punishment for gay people or drug users; the exact attribution should not be published.
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What the pattern means: The impassioned reply attributes a direct declaration to Reagan personally, when what the record actually supports is that some of his supporters, not the president in any formal statement, pushed that framing at the time.

The Great Attractor is not a single mysterious object, but calling it purely the geometric center of mass is also misleading; Laniakea is defined from a reconstructed basin of peculiar-velocity flows.
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What the pattern means: One reply pushes back directly on the idea that 'nobody knows what's there,' insisting the Great Attractor is simply the galactic neighborhood's center of mass and doesn't require any physical object to exist at that point.

What commenters described: It's not that we "don't know what it is", its purely the centre-of-mass of the galactic neighbourhood. Nothing has to be there for it to occur.

The proton mass is measured extremely precisely through multiple experiments and linked constants
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What the pattern means: Sheer measurement precision is treated as remarkable in itself here, without getting into the multiple linked experiments and constants that actually pin the proton's mass down so tightly.

The Shapley concentration is a larger and more distant mass concentration than the Great Attractor region, but “bigger” depends on the boundary and mass definition used.
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What the pattern means: A good-natured concession that 'Shapley is bigger' glosses over how much that comparison actually depends on which boundary or mass definition gets used to size up either concentration.

What commenters described: Shapely is bigger, we have to admit

Tick paralysis is a real, rare ascending paralysis caused by neurotoxin from an attached feeding tick and often improves after tick removal
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What the pattern means: Just a four-word aside dropped into the alpha-gal discussion, 'tick bite paralysis,' with no description of the ascending weakness or the neurotoxin mechanism actually behind it.

A warm or urination-like sensation is classically associated with injected contrast, especially iodinated CT contrast, and is not produced by every MRI
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What the pattern means: The one comment reduces a well-known iodinated-contrast side effect to a joke about feeling like you've wet yourself, capturing the sensation vividly while not distinguishing it from the different experience some people have with MRI contrast.

What commenters described: you get some fun fluid that makes you feel like you pissed yourself

Babies have cartilaginous kneecaps that ossify during childhood
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What the pattern means: The founding comment states the cartilage-to-bone kneecap timeline as a plain, unadorned fact, with no elaboration in the thread on when ossification actually finishes during childhood.

Claims that artistic people are broadly more likely to develop schizophrenia require qualification
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What the pattern means: One commenter passes along a claim linking artistic temperament to schizophrenia risk exactly the way secondhand rumors travel, framed with more confidence than the single 'heard elsewhere' source can actually support.

Prior self-enucleation is a reported risk marker for injury to the remaining eye
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What the pattern means: The single clinical aside names the strongest predictor doctors reportedly watch for after one self-inflicted eye injury, whether the person has already done the same thing to the other eye before.

What commenters described: the strongest predictor of auto-enucleation is prior auto-enucleation of the partner eye

Rats emit 50-kHz ultrasonic vocalizations during tickling and play, consistent with positive affect
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What the pattern means: The founding comment's own discomfort, 'that makes me feel yuck', is really a reaction to how humanlike the described response sounds, ultrasonic vocalizations during tickling that researchers interpret as something like laughter.

Testicular torsion cannot always be predicted, but surgical fixation can prevent recurrence and protect the opposite testis after an event
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What the pattern means: The founding comment frames the condition as pure bad luck with no way to guard against it, missing the clinical detail that surgical fixation after one torsion event can prevent a repeat and protect the other testis going forward.

The belly button is a healed umbilical scar and is not connected to the anus
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What the pattern means: The single comment repeats a viral but anatomically backwards explanation for belly-button odor, tying it to the anus rather than to what it actually is, a closed-over scar from the umbilical cord.

The claim that different regions of the world physiologically sneeze differently is not supported by a cited study; differing written sneeze words do not establish different reflexes.
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What the pattern means: A reply stretches a real point about learned behavior into an overreaching claim that whole world regions physiologically 'sneeze differently,' when the cited source really just shows different words for sneezing rather than different reflexes.

The claim that Native Americans universally have higher schizophrenia rates is unsupported as stated
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What the pattern means: The commenter frames their own claim with visible hesitation, 'heard but didn't confirm', about a supposed universal elevated schizophrenia rate among Native Americans, admitting upfront that it's unverified.

The Epley maneuver treats posterior-canal benign paroxysmal positional vertigo, not every cause of dizziness
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What the pattern means: The founding comment name-drops the Epley maneuver as a general vertigo fix with no mention of the specific inner-ear condition, posterior-canal BPPV, that it's actually designed to treat.

The Norma cluster is a major central concentration in the Great Attractor region, but the Great Attractor denotes an extended mass and velocity-flow feature, not an exact synonym for the cluster alone.
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What the pattern means: One detailed reply goes further than most entries in this cluster, explaining that x-ray observation can see through the zone of avoidance where visible light can't, which is how the Great Attractor got tentatively pinned to the Norma cluster back in the late 1990s.

What commenters described: since around the late 90s we're pretty sure that the Great Attractor is the Norma cluster (+ all the surroundings)

The Shapley concentration contributes to the broader peculiar-velocity field, but describing it as a force pulling a discrete Great Attractor object is metaphorical.
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What the pattern means: The supporting comment leans fully into personifying the Shapley Concentration as an appetite, 'the Shapley Supercluster is hungry', rather than describing it as one contributor among several to a shared gravitational flow.

The Vela Supercluster was reported in 2016 as an extended overdensity crossing the Zone of Avoidance where residual bulk flows suggested missing mass; its discovery is real, though “one of the largest known” depends on the mass and boundary definition.
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What the pattern means: One commenter accurately flags a genuinely new 2016 discovery, the Vela Supercluster hiding behind the zone of avoidance, while openly admitting the thread doesn't actually know whether it connects to the Great Attractor at all.

What commenters described: Very recently they discovered a new supercluster (Vela) in the zone of avoidance that is one of the largest we know of.

Limit: The commenter admits there's no confirmation whether Vela is related to the Great Attractor, despite raising the comparison.

Vela may contribute to large-scale flows, but it is distinct from the nearer Great Attractor region around the Norma cluster; the Great Attractor is not merely an unidentified supercluster that might be Vela.
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What the pattern means: That same Vela comment gets read for the opposite point here, it doesn't actually establish Vela and the Great Attractor as one and the same, since the Great Attractor is more specifically tied to the nearer Norma cluster region.

Earth likely has more trees than the Milky Way has stars
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What the pattern means: Both posts land on the same terse comparison without adding supporting numbers or sourcing, treating the tree-versus-star count as a self-evidently mind-bending fact rather than something to unpack further.

What commenters described: There are more trees on Earth than there are stars in the Milky Way galaxy.

The thread mixes three broadly grounded facts with two major overstatements: atomic contact is interaction-dependent, chess game counts are estimates, sharks predate trees, cephalopod RNA editing can respond to temperature, and no genetic repair has made humans immortal
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What the pattern means: This grab-bag comment bundles several viral science claims together, atomic 'touch,' chess-game combinatorics, sharks predating trees, and octopus RNA editing, with the shakiest of the bunch being an offhand suggestion that fixing our genetic error-checking could make humans immortal.

What commenters described: There are more possible chess games than atoms estimated in the observable universe. - Sharks existed before trees

Limit: If and when we correct this in our genetic makeup we would essentially live forever. The ability to do that is not as far-fetched as the implications of this breakthrough may sound.

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Absolutely tragic. And unfortunately Semmelweisization rolls off the tongue even worse than pasteurization.

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See the thing is that it *works*, so I can't blame them. Most predators have to be careful fighting because if they're injured they can't hunt and they'll die. Dogs and other pack predators often don't have that same instinct, so they're willing to do almost anything for the good of the pack. So the dog thought *"I'll do anything to scare this guy off or else he'll hurt the pack!"* and he was right. It's not stupid if it works.

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Shuffle a deck of cards. Congratulations. You have just shuffled a deck of cards in an order that has literally never been done in the history of the universe and will never be shuffled into again **ever**.

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The reason why your finger smells if you stick it into your belly button is because it’s attached on the other side to your anus.

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Polar bears are actually black. It's the light refracting through their fur that makes them white.

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This catch-all bucket's sharpest moments come from commenters who actually check a viral comparison against real numbers -- finding a Kodiak bear is closer to 2-2.5x a gorilla's bulk rather than the repeated '3x,' or that the widely quoted 700 km/s Milky Way figure is a peculiar velocity rather than a runaway acceleration -- while similarly viral historical and physiological trivia (D.A.R.E.'s origin story, Thomas Midgley's death, hernia-castration history) circulates with far less of that same fact-checking.

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Mind, perception, and behavior82 index entries · 461 source recordsMind, perception, and behavior — 82 named claims/discoveries, 469 source records
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Placebo and nocebo expectations can alter symptoms and treatment responses, but they cannot simply switch anaesthesia or analgesia off at will
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What the pattern means: The sugar-pill evidence for nocebo effects holds up on its own terms -- people reported the exact side effects they'd been warned about while taking chemically inert pills -- but the same comment then overreaches by claiming belief alone can simply switch off anesthesia or analgesia, a leap the underlying mechanism doesn't actually support.

What commenters described: People were manifesting the potential side effects while taking sugar pills.

Limit: You can also just un-believe anesthetics and analgesics from working entirely.

Visual temporal resolution is not a literal movie frame rate: flicker-fusion frequency measures when repeated light changes can no longer be resolved as separate.
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What the pattern means: A commenter pushes back on treating human vision like it runs at a fixed frame rate, arguing flicker-fusion only marks the point where flicker stops registering, not a literal count of frames the brain samples.

What commenters described: the "FPS" terminology isn't a very good descriptor, it's more like the minimum amount of time it takes to notice a change in perception

Inner speech varies substantially across people and moments, including reports of little or no spontaneous inner voice; thought can also be conceptual, visual, sensory, emotional, or otherwise unsymbolized
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What the pattern means: Almost eighty replies describe wildly different internal experiences, from constant narrated monologue to pure wordless concepts to shifting hybrids, and several posters suspect the whole debate is really just people using different words for the same underlying process.

What commenters described: I don't have some weird voice in my head... it's all just vivid images, concepts, emotions and stuff like that.

Limit: Others insist this isn't a real split at all, arguing that non-narrators and narrators are just describing identical thought processes in incompatible language, and one reply dismisses the premise outright as people "just not understanding the question."

Reality-testing practice can increase lucid-dream frequency for some people, but clocks, text, light switches, and arithmetic are not universal dream laws
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What the pattern means: Practitioners describe picking a specific waking habit — rereading text, flipping a light switch, checking a clock — and testing it obsessively so the same check eventually surfaces inside a dream and flags that it's a dream.

What commenters described: Go about your day and whenever you read something, double check to see if it says the same thing the second time around... you will eventually start incorporating them into your dreams.

Limit: One commenter warns the method backfires if the chosen test can actually fail in waking life too — a burnt-out bulb once left them "questioning reality" even while fully awake.

The content and interpretation of voice-hearing varies across cultural settings
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What the pattern means: Several commenters recall research suggesting the same underlying symptom — hearing voices — gets interpreted through very different cultural lenses, with Western patients more often reporting hostile or violent voices and voices in some African and religious contexts read as benevolent guidance from spirits or ancestors.

What commenters described: religious and spiritual people often heard "positive" or helpful voices, at times attributing them to spiritual guidance from ancestors, angels or other.

Limit: The commenter who raised it first admits uncertainty about the rigor behind the claim, calling it something they "recall reading somewhere" rather than a cited study.

Julian Jaynes's bicameral-mind account of ancient people hearing gods as externalized inner voices is a controversial historical hypothesis, not an established discovery about the origin of religion or consciousness
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What the pattern means: Two replies lay out Julian Jaynes's bicameral-mind idea — that early humans experienced their own inner monologue as an external, involuntary voice and mistook it for gods speaking — treating it as settled history of religion rather than the contested hypothesis it actually is.

What commenters described: It basically states that early man's inner monologue was separate involuntary part of their consciousness...and this is where the concept of God's talking to us comes from.

Price cues can change placebo responses in some experiments, and open-label placebos show modest benefits in selected trials, but effects are condition- and outcome-specific
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What the pattern means: The claim that pricier placebos work better gets a small personal confirmation from a commenter who says pretending to take pills — with full knowledge it's not real medicine — still measurably improves how they feel.

What commenters described: I can confirm placebo works on me. I sometimes pretend to take pills and I definitely feel better.

The preceding “3–6 frames per minute” figure is untenable and likely confused hertz or frames per second with frames per minute.
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What the pattern means: Someone calls out a preceding '3-6 frames per minute' figure for visual perception as basically nonsensical, guessing it confused a per-second or per-hertz measurement with per-minute, since no nervous system perceives change at a rate that slow.

What commenters described: I sincerely doubt anything with a nervous system is perceiving things at 3-6 'frames' per minute... it's more like the minimum amount of time it takes to notice a change in perception.

Controlled research supports the distinction suggested here: frightening events can feel longer in retrospect without increasing real-time temporal resolution, plausibly because of denser memory encoding.
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What the pattern means: Rather than asserting an answer, this commenter poses the more precise question buried inside 'time slows down when you're scared': whether frightening moments are actually processed at a higher resolution in real time, or just laid down more densely in memory and so feel slower in hindsight.

What commenters described: This makes me curious about whether it happened slower or is remembered slower? Perhaps the memory is recorded in a way that makes it feel slow when you remember it.

The U.S. government funded remote-viewing research, but its commissioned evaluation found no reliable intelligence value
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What the pattern means: The commenter is careful to separate the two claims that make Project Stargate strange: that the CIA genuinely ran a Cold War program testing remote viewing is documented fact, while Ingo Swann describing Jupiter's rings before they were common knowledge is presented as an allegation, not something the poster is vouching for.

What commenters described: The US government/CIA actually had a Cold War-era program studying remote viewing... Ingo Swann allegedly remote-viewing Jupiter without a telescope and describing things like rings before they were commonly known.

Limit: The poster explicitly hedges on the paranormal claim itself, "I'm not saying the psychic part is real," while still finding the government's willingness to fund it the more startling fact.

Some psychiatric service-dog handlers report using trained responses for reality checking, but efficacy evidence is limited
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What the pattern means: Two separate accounts describe leaning on an animal's indifference as a reality check: one commenter trusts trained alert dogs (or, failing that, just watches whether their own cats react to a noise), while another describes a woman with schizophrenia whose guide dog's lack of reaction tells her a suspected hallucination isn't real.

What commenters described: She'd basically watch if the dog reacted/looked at the hallucination and if he didn't she'd know it wasnt real.

Limit: Both supporting comments describe secondhand videos rather than the commenters' own direct experience with a trained alert dog.

Honeybees possess endogenous circadian clocks and can anticipate learned feeding times even under constant conditions; darkness does not erase the rhythm, though environmental cues normally entrain it
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What the pattern means: A half-remembered study anchors this one: bees kept in a windowless, dark hive reportedly still emerged on cue at what would have been daytime, which is the detail the whole claim about light-independent circadian tracking rests on.

What commenters described: the bees were still able to track time and emerged when it was day.

Limit: The claim comes from a half-remembered study ('I think at one point...') rather than a citation, so the specific experimental protocol is unverified.

Many blind people spontaneously develop a complete 3D echolocation map without training.
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What the pattern means: Without formal mobility training, some blind individuals reportedly build a full spatial model of their surroundings entirely on their own, according to a commenter drawing a sharp line between 'classical US handicap training' and self-taught skill.

What commenters described: A lot develop their own echolocation and can basically 3d map the world in their head.

Limit: The claim rests on a single comment encouraging others to 'look up' the phenomenon rather than citing a specific study or case.

Some blind people can learn high-acuity click-based echolocation for distance and spatial judgments.
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What the pattern means: The same anecdote gets repurposed here for a narrower point: that click-based echolocation isn't passive awareness but a trainable technique precise enough to support real distance and spatial judgments, not just a vague sense that something is nearby.

What commenters described: You should look up people who are blind but do not have classical US handicap training.

Limit: As with the related item, this is a single, uncited anecdotal comment rather than a documented case study.

Gut–brain interactions can affect physiology and behavior, but claiming gut bacteria are the root of human consciousness is unsupported.
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What the pattern means: Real gut-brain physiology gets stretched into a much bigger claim in this reply, escalating from 'strong influence on mood' to gut bacteria being the literal 'root of human consciousness.'

What commenters described: Your gut bacteria have a very strong influence on mood and critical thought

Limit: The jump from mood influence to gut bacteria as 'the root of human consciousness' isn't supported by anything else in the comment.

Suggestion can produce confident false memories in some people, but not every memory can be arbitrarily implanted
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What the pattern means: The claim captures real experimental results on suggestibility but frames it as universally applicable, when the underlying research shows this works on some people and not reliably on everyone.

What commenters described: Scientists tested this on people and some of them actually started remembering fake events, emotions, and details that never existed at all.

Limit: The comment implies anyone can be convinced of a false memory, but the described effect worked on some participants, not everyone tested.

Removing glasses is not a validated general test for distinguishing hallucinations
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What the pattern means: A remembered folk technique claims removing one's glasses can distinguish hallucinations from real objects because hallucinations supposedly stay in perfect focus, offered without any supporting citation.

What commenters described: take off your glasses. Hallucinations remain in clear focus.

Color is a brain-generated percept tied to light spectra, photoreceptors and context—not a property experienced identically by every observer
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What the pattern means: The claim that color 'isn't real' gets built up as a chain: light hits a chemical receptor, a signal travels to the brain, and the brain constructs the experience we call color, with no guarantee two people experience it identically.

What commenters described: our eyes have a kind of chemical reaction to a jiggly bit of electromagnetism. Our eyes send a signal to our brain, and our brain creates this 3d scene

Sounds, touch, and other external stimuli can be incorporated into dreams, while apparent long lead-ins do not prove that the brain rewrites a ten-minute past instantaneously
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What the pattern means: The vivid dream anecdotes here (a chinchilla's grooming becoming a walrus's kiss, an alarm clock becoming a screaming rabbit) show real stimuli getting woven into an ongoing dream, but the leap to the brain rewriting a full ten minutes of narrative in an instant is one commenter's own extrapolation, not something the thread actually demonstrates.

What commenters described: I once was having a dream where a walrus was cuddling me and kissing my face... Woke up giggling to find one of my chinchillas had escaped her cage and was actually grooming my face while I slept.

Limit: The 'brain rewrites your past in a split second' framing is offered as a striking analogy by one commenter, not as something anyone in the thread had evidence for.

Split-brain confabulation shows post-hoc explanations under special conditions, not that every intact-brain choice is unconsciously made or free will is disproved
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What the pattern means: The split-brain patient who answered 'I'm going to get a Coke' when he had no real access to why he stood up gets treated by commenters as proof we're always confabulating reasons after the fact, but a self-identified cognitive psychologist in the thread specifically pushes back that this doesn't settle the free-will question.

Limit: I'm well aware of these studies, I'm a cognitive psychologist. I'm just not convinced they have any bearing on the question of whether we have free will.

Human memory is reconstructive and vulnerable to misinformation, but recall is not simply a fresh analog copy of the previous recall and accurate memories are not statistically impossible
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What the pattern means: A woman's vivid memory of visiting her baby sister in the hospital gets flatly denied by her own mother, which the thread treats as proof memory rewrites itself — except a reply immediately points out that a sleep-deprived, worried parent's recollection isn't automatically more reliable than a three-year-old's.

Limit: Parents' memories aren't infallible either. Her saying that doesn't automatically mean that never happened... I'm especially suspicious of people who are extra confident about something that happened years and years ago.

Brain signals can precede reported conscious awareness in simple laboratory choices, but they do not reliably predict complex decisions or disprove conscious agency
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What the pattern means: The half-second delay between a button-push decision and the brain signal that supposedly predicted it gets treated by one commenter as killing free will outright, while another needles that this framing is just more clickable than the accurate, narrower finding about lag time in simple lab tasks.

Limit: your conscious awareness of your unconscious decision processes has a lag time of about a third of a second is much less suitable for a listicle title than 'the big reason you don't have free will.'

Alien-hand phenomena are documented after callosal or other brain lesions, but television plots and individual smoking stories do not establish two independent minds
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What the pattern means: The thread's liveliest detail is a real split-brain patient trying to quit smoking whose hands fight each other over a cigarette and lighter, which several commenters find far more convincing than the House, M.D. episode that opens the discussion and that others doubt for medical accuracy.

What commenters described: One hand will reach for a cigarette and place it in the mouth. Whilst that same hand is reaching for a lighter the other hand... will snatch the cigarette away.

Limit: House? I would assume most of it is super exaggerated. I love the show but I wouldn't trust it for medical accuracy.

Split-brain findings do not explain bipolar disorder, autism, narcissistic personality disorder, dissociative identity disorder, or sleepwalking
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What the pattern means: A daughter tries to make sense of her mother's dissociative identity disorder and a mother of a nonverbal autistic daughter each reach for the split-brain hemisphere story as a private explanatory metaphor, which is a moving read but is their own extrapolation rather than anything the original study addressed.

What commenters described: This study really helped me understand that, because it's like she has traumatic persistent amnesia and these alters' histories are just her version of the same thing.

A 2014 experiment transmitted a few encoded bits between human brains using EEG, the internet, and transcranial magnetic stimulation; it was a machine-mediated interface, not telepathy
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What the pattern means: The claim of proven brain-to-brain telepathy gets immediate pushback from a commenter insisting this is 'bullshit' unless you mean instrument-mediated brainwave detection, while another's daydream about wanting thoughts 'plucked' straight into notes shows the appeal of the idea outrunning what the 2014 experiment actually did.

Limit: This is bullshit. Telepathy is outright not possible. Unless you're talking about instruments being used to detect brainwave patterns or something. Which is not telepathy.

Human memory is reconstructive, and suggestion can create confident memories for events that did not occur, but susceptibility and completeness vary
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What the pattern means: The 'lost in the mall' implanted-memory study gets invoked as shorthand for why eyewitness testimony can't be trusted, and one commenter's line that we 'remember memories of memories' captures how each recollection is really a copy of a copy rather than the original event.

What commenters described: We don't actually remember things. We remember memories of memories.

Human echolocation is auditory spatial perception based on reflected sound, not sight, even though expert blind echolocators may recruit visual cortical areas.
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What the pattern means: This exchange is really just two commenters insisting on the same precise point from different angles: human echolocation is spatial perception built on hearing, and calling it 'not sight' is exactly the distinction worth making, not an accidental phrasing.

The BrainPort system converts camera images into tongue stimulation for visual task assistance
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What the pattern means: The BrainPort tongue-stimulation device gets described in concrete, almost mundane terms — hours to learn, images not especially crisp but usable — and it's the sheer novelty of the concept, not the technical specifics, that draws the reply's blunt reaction.

The bicameral-mind account is a speculative historical theory, not an experimentally established stage of human consciousness
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What the pattern means: Commenters frame the bicameral mind as a striking historical reading of the Iliad's characters obeying inner 'voices,' treating it explicitly as an interpretive theory about ancient self-consciousness rather than something neuroscience has confirmed as an actual developmental stage.

Some blind people use click-based echolocation and recruit visual cortex for spatial sound
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What the pattern means: A radio-program anecdote about someone teaching blind children tongue-click echolocation pivots into a broader point that seems to matter more to the commenter: it's usually overprotective parenting and culture, not any real lack of ability, that keeps blind adults from developing independence.

What commenters described: Most blind people don't have any other disabilities, so they have the capability and desire to learn just like anyone else, as long as they are able.

Withdrawal from a painful stimulus can be initiated by spinal circuits before conscious appraisal, but the brain does not simply rewrite visual history to claim the choice
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What the pattern means: The hot-stove reflex — pulling back before the pain even registers — gets used by commenters to argue the brain backfills a decision after the fact, though one poster hedges their own account with 'IIRC,' a reminder that even this retelling is itself a memory doing some quiet editing.

What commenters described: There is a shortcut neural pathway that allows for super fast reactions, and then your brain 'fixes' time so that you believe you realized it was hot and then moved your hand away.

Human fingertips have high tactile spatial acuity, but the baseball-Earth and house-sized-burr analogy is unsupported
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What the pattern means: The baseball-Earth-and-house-sized-burr comparison is a vivid way to argue human touch beats the flashier senses of other animals, but nobody in the short exchange backs the specific numbers with anything beyond the analogy itself.

Limit: The specific baseball-to-burr proportions are offered as an illustrative comparison, with no source given for the figures themselves.

Subliminal cues can have small context-dependent effects, but they do not make the conscious brain accept arbitrary claims no matter how improbable
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What the pattern means: The claim that subliminal cues can make the conscious mind accept 'no matter how improbable' a suggestion gets tempered by a reply insisting the only real defense is ongoing critical thinking and humility, not any special resistance to being influenced.

Predictive processing models perception as inference combining sensory evidence and prior expectations; it is a framework, not proof of the specific split-brain story
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What the pattern means: Invoking Karl Friston's predictive-processing framework to explain the split-brain patient's Coke-machine answer treats perception as filling gaps with expectation, which is a genuinely useful theoretical lens but still just one framework being applied to a single anecdote, not independent proof of it.

Some blind people learn click-based human echolocation and can use reflected sound for navigation; controlled training studies show substantial improvement and transfer to new tasks, while feats such as cycling or basketball describe skilled individuals rather than every blind person.
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What the pattern means: The specific feats named here — trained echolocators riding bikes and playing basketball — are offered as evidence of skill built through real training, not something every blind person can be assumed to develop without practice.

The adult brain typically uses power on the order of 20 watts, while consciousness remains scientifically unresolved
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What the pattern means: The juxtaposition that actually lands here is the brain's roughly 20-watt power draw against everything it produces — memory, emotion, self-awareness — with the commenter correctly noting it's the 'how' of consciousness, not the wattage, that remains genuinely unresolved.

Very low estimates for conscious information throughput do not mean intense thought can overload and kill the brain
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What the pattern means: A genuinely low estimate of conscious information throughput — somewhere around 10 to 40 bits — gets stretched by the same commenter into the half-joking claim that thinking too hard could cause brain death, a conclusion the bitrate number itself doesn't come close to supporting.

Congenital blindness is associated with markedly reduced observed schizophrenia risk, not proven impossibility
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What the pattern means: Skeptics and believers talk past each other here: one camp treats a Western Australian cohort of nearly half a million children, in which none of the 66 born with cortical blindness developed schizophrenia, as real evidence of a protective link, while others insist the overlap of two already-rare conditions is too small a sample to rule out coincidence, and a couple of repliers note documented cases do exist, just far fewer than chance would predict.

What commenters described: None of the 66 children with cortical blindness developed schizophrenia or psychotic illness.

Limit: such a small audience that statistically speaking it was something like 80% likely that none of the blind subjects would have schizophrenia, assuming standard chances of occurring

Callosotomy can dissociate information between hemispheres, but language lateralization and left/right functions are probabilistic rather than exclusive
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What the pattern means: The thread circles back to one unsettling image: a split-brain patient's speech-producing hemisphere confidently narrating a soda run to explain an action it never actually witnessed being initiated, while a self-identified psychologist adds a lesser-known case of the disconnected right hemisphere still producing nonverbal laughter on its own, and other repliers push back that clean left/right assignments are an outdated oversimplification of what is really a probabilistic, overlapping split.

What commenters described: I'm going to get a Coke.

Limit: Left right Side is outdated, oversimplified... the brain is not symmetrical, per pushback from other commenters.

The CIA-hosted Gateway document is an intelligence analysis of claims, not CIA experimental proof that manifestation works
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What the pattern means: The lone comment brands a declassified CIA review of remote-viewing claims as if the agency itself proved manifestation works, when the document is really an intelligence analysis of the claims rather than an experimental result.

A strong ADHD–visual-snow association is not established by the cited discussion
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What the pattern means: A single reply extends a real observation about the visual cortex into a broader claim linking ADHD and visual snow, without offering any figure or study to size how strong that association actually is.

Double-slit experiments show interference when path alternatives remain coherent and altered or absent interference when path information becomes physically available; a conscious observer is unnecessary
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What the pattern means: Commenters kept reaching for physical analogies—a tire gauge bleeding air, an IR thermometer absorbing the soup's own heat—to insist that "observation" here means physical interaction, not a watching mind, and several called the popular "universe knows it's being watched" framing outright wrong, though even skeptics conceded the delayed-choice quantum eraser leaves something genuinely stranger unresolved.

What commenters described: You reach for your thermometer, but sticking that in there will change the temperature of the soup.

Limit: Even the most confident debunkers conceded the delayed-choice quantum eraser is a genuinely harder case that plain interaction analogies don't fully dissolve.

Desert ants use a stride-related odometer within path integration; the experiment supports step integration, not conscious language-like counting of every step
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What the pattern means: Readers dug into the actual stilts-and-stumps methodology—ants on lengthened legs overshot the nest by about five meters, ants on shortened legs undershot by the same margin—while several pushed back hard on calling it "counting," preferring a pattern-recognition or wound-spring analogy for whatever the ants are tracking.

What commenters described: Ants on stilts overshot their nest by about 5 meters (traveling ~15 m instead of 10 m), while ants on stumps undershot by about 5 meters.

Limit: Several commenters noted the ants recalibrate correctly within a day or two, and argued the underlying mechanism could be time-based rather than a literal step count.

Aphantasia is markedly reduced or absent mental imagery and is distinct from inner speech; roughly 1% meet a strict visual-aphantasia threshold, and many still dream visually
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What the pattern means: People with aphantasia described their inner life as differently organized rather than blank, one comparing it to thinking in a "calculator" rather than a narrative, while several were careful to separate the missing mental picture from a still-intact, sometimes constant, inner monologue.

What commenters described: if you tell me to close my eyes and think of a pineapple, I won't see it no matter how hard I try

Limit: Commenters disagreed on prevalence, citing figures from about 1% to 4%, and several noted aphantasia doesn't rule out vivid, even lucid, dreaming.

Deaf people with psychosis can experience language-shaped hallucinations without conventional auditory hearing
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What the pattern means: Multiple commenters converged on the same striking detail — that deaf-from-birth people with psychosis hallucinate signing hands or silently moving mouths instead of voices — though one account of a woman deaf from birth who reported actually hearing voices complicated any clean rule.

What commenters described: Schizophrenic deaf people from birth hallucinate ASL visuals instead of anything auditory.

Limit: One commenter described a woman deaf from birth who reported hearing voices anyway, which doesn't fit the clean pattern the rest of the thread describes.

A later two-patient study reported divided visual perception with apparently undivided conscious awareness, but it did not settle the split-consciousness debate
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What the pattern means: The thread turned into a real argument over what Pinto's follow-up split-brain study shows, with one side citing high-confidence cross-hemisphere identification as evidence of unified consciousness and another countering that the patients' own lived experience was still demonstrably altered.

What commenters described: split brain patients could still verbally identify objects shown to the right part of the brain... They could pick up objects they saw with their right hand even though the object was only seen by the right part of the brain

Limit: One reply pushed back directly, arguing the patients' altered lived experience matters more than whatever the brain stem can still relay between hemispheres.

Cortical and peripheral congenital blindness may not have the same association with psychosis
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What the pattern means: One long comment worked through base-rate arithmetic — roughly 0.0016% of people would have both congenital cortical blindness and schizophrenia — to argue that the scarcity of case reports may reflect reporting bias and stigma as much as any real protective effect.

What commenters described: Schizophrenia has a prevalence of around 1%, congenital cortical blindness of around 0.16%... only 133,630 people with both congenital cortical blindness and schizophrenia should be alive right now

Limit: The same commenter cautioned that underreporting in regions with little psychiatric infrastructure could hide real cases, so the absence of case reports isn't strong evidence of absence.

Some people report little or no inner speech, a phenomenon termed anendophasia
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What the pattern means: Commenters here were mostly sorting out terminology in real time, several only learning the word "anendophasia" mid-thread and correcting earlier claims of aphantasia, while one described having aphantasia alongside a monologue so constant it interferes with meditating.

What commenters described: so easy to meditate... my inner monologue just won't shut up long enough to let me meditate

One published DID case showed state-dependent psychogenic blindness with corresponding visual-evoked-potential changes; that case does not establish that identities routinely have different prescriptions, color vision, or allergies
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What the pattern means: Beyond the single published case, commenters volunteered their own specific claims — different glasses prescriptions per alter, one alter with total color blindness while the rest see color normally, distinct allergy profiles across identities — well past anything the cited research actually establishes.

What commenters described: Can confirm one of my alters is color blind while the rest have different levels of near and farsightedness.

Bell-test experiments rule out broad classes of local hidden-variable theories, but they do not prove that observation creates reality, consciousness is required, or usable information travels faster than light
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What the pattern means: The only detailed explanation in this thread describes particles "influencing each other faster than light" the instant either is measured, and the sole reply is a pun about inflation rather than any correction — so the overreach the label flags goes entirely unchallenged in the actual comments.

What commenters described: Particles don't actually have a definite property until you look at them.

The proposal that visual dreaming protects visual cortex territory is a hypothesis, not established fact
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What the pattern means: Several commenters cited the same podcast-sourced idea — that visual dreaming keeps the visual cortex active overnight so other senses can't take over its territory — then extended it themselves into speculation about whether schizophrenia might involve that same defense mechanism misfiring.

What commenters described: there's a good chance that other senses would overwhelm the functions of our occipital lobe and degrade our vision rather quickly so the brain has adapted by keeping that part of the brain active at night

Limit: Every version of this traces back to one podcast retelling rather than a comment linking to the underlying research, and the schizophrenia connection is the commenters' own speculative addition.

Maria Strømme proposed a theoretical universal-consciousness model; it did not experimentally prove that consciousness precedes matter
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What the pattern means: The original poster admitted they hadn't actually understood the physics behind the study they were excited about, and the thread's real contribution turned out to be tracking down the researcher's name and university interview rather than evaluating what her claim actually says.

What commenters described: I read a study from a woman physicist who apparently proved via a study that conscience precedes matter... I think it could be the biggest discovery of our century.

Limit: No one in the thread actually evaluates the physics itself; the only follow-up is identifying the source, Dr. Maria Strømme, not assessing her claim.

People born without a corpus callosum have highly variable outcomes; severe balance, motor, or cognitive impairment is not inevitable
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What the pattern means: The three accounts pull in different directions — a neuropsychology client with serious motor and balance trouble, a reply reasoning that lost peripheral-vision cues would predictably hurt balance, and a person who didn't even learn about their own missing corpus callosum until an MRI at eighteen and turned out high-functioning regardless.

What commenters described: I genuinely thought I was stupid growing up... but I am pretty high functioning for the diagnosis.

Every sensory experience arrives after physical propagation and neural processing delays, but those delays do not make perception create reality through synchronicity
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What the pattern means: Only two comments make up this entry, and the second simply adds the missing half to the first's speed-of-light framing — that the brain also needs processing time on top of the signal's travel time before any experience reaches awareness.

What commenters described: Everything you experience is happening in the past... it feels instant.

Extreme exertion and prolonged sleep loss can produce perceptual disturbances, but personal episodes require clinical evaluation rather than a Reddit diagnosis
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What the pattern means: An ultramarathon runner's account stands out here: two burnt tree stumps read, for a full forty-five seconds of total conviction, as Roman shields and a battle axe left by a costumed thru-hiker, with the brain never once flagging the story as implausible while it was happening.

What commenters described: I saw just off the trail to the left two Roman centurion shields propped against each other... my brain instantly said this is weird but it must be a Pacific Crest Trail through-hiker

Congenitally blind people usually report nonvisual dreams, while people blinded later may retain visual dream imagery
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What the pattern means: These two comments narrow the visual-dreaming theory elsewhere in the catalog to one testable contrast: people blind from birth report dreaming without pictures, while people who lose sight later keep seeing images in their dreams for a stretch before that fades.

What commenters described: people who become blinded after having sight eventually stop seeing in their dreams

The arithmetic that one year is 20% of a five-year-old’s age and 2% of a fifty-year-old’s age is correct, but the “proportional life” explanation for why time seems faster with age is a hypothesis, not an established single cause.
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What the pattern means: The lone commenter does the arithmetic themselves — one year as 20% of a five-year-old's life versus 2% of a fifty-year-old's — and offers it as a frame-of-reference explanation for why time seems to speed up, without treating it as the only possible cause.

What commenters described: the idea of 1 year to a 5 year old child is 20% of their entire existence. To a 50 year old adult 1 year is only 2%.

Double-slit experiments show interference when alternatives remain coherent and loss or alteration of interference when path information becomes available; consciousness is not required
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What the pattern means: This entry is the bare-bones version of the double-slit callout found elsewhere in the catalog — a single line, no elaboration — which is itself telling: for plenty of commenters, the phrase alone carries the "observation changes reality" punchline without needing anything attached.

Honeybees have circadian time memory and classic translocation experiments demonstrated an endogenous clock; the vague “old timezone for a few days” wording is retained only with qualification.
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What the pattern means: The lone comment recalls the bee-timezone experiment secondhand and hedges its own memory with "wasnt there also one" — a detail that matters, since the claim survives here only with that same uncertainty still attached.

What commenters described: someone took a swarm overseas and they functioned in their old timezone despite sun differences for a few days

The claim that approaching extremely slowly makes a fly assume a swatter was always present is an unsupported behavioral rule.
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What the pattern means: The single comment states the slow-approach fly myth as folk wisdom passed along secondhand — "supposedly" — rather than anything the commenter tested or sourced themselves, which is exactly why it doesn't hold up as a real behavioral rule.

What commenters described: if we move even slower when getting close to them they just assume we've always been there

FMT can transmit pathogens and cause serious infection, so it must not be treated as a casual behavior-modification intervention.
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What the pattern means: The commenter lists fecal transplants' documented downstream effects — appetite, energy, depression symptoms, weight, even acne — as a chain running through gut bacteria's chemical output, then catches themselves admitting the hiking-preference claim might just be a side effect of more energy rather than anything more specific.

What commenters described: Fecal transplants have been shown to change people's appetite, energy level, mental health status (depression), weight loss, whether the person has acne

In Project Prakash, newly sighted participants initially failed to match objects known by touch with their visual appearance, answering Molyneux’s question negatively for immediate transfer.
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What the pattern means: The commenter frames Molyneux's centuries-old thought experiment as a question technology eventually answered for real — could someone blind from birth who suddenly gains sight recognize a ball versus a box by sight alone — and reports being surprised that shape and touch didn't transfer the way intuition suggests.

What commenters described: at some point technology increased enough for this question to be answered and the answer was no

People often retrospectively report slow motion during frightening events, but a controlled free-fall study found no increase in temporal perceptual resolution and attributed the longer-seeming event to memory encoding.
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What the pattern means: The one comment here leans entirely on secondhand combat anecdotes, floating a "framerate" metaphor for adrenaline-driven perception, while the commenter themselves flags it as something they've only heard about rather than anything backed by a study they could point to.

What commenters described: the adrenaline and hyper focus sort of increases the "framerate" of your perception, so it feels as if everything is moving slower

Limit: The commenter flags this as secondhand anecdote, unsure whether any actual papers back it up.

The study also found rapid improvement after visual experience, so “the answer was no” needs the qualification that the initial deficit was not necessarily permanent.
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What the pattern means: This entry's source comment is identical to the ball-versus-box account used elsewhere in the catalog, and the commenter never actually mentions a later turnaround — the "rapid improvement" qualifier attached here comes from outside context the comment itself doesn't supply.

Limit: None of the source text actually supplies the "rapid improvement" evidence — that context comes from outside this single comment.

Horsehair worms can alter arthropod-host behavior so mature worms reach water, but mechanisms remain uncertain and the popular claim that they simply force hosts to jump in and drown is too absolute.
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What the pattern means: The commenter builds outward from horsehair worms to gene-eye-view thinking more broadly — Wolbachia skewing insect sex ratios, mitochondria's endosymbiotic origins — while explicitly flagging their own "forcing hosts to jump in water" language as a metaphor for blind selection pressure, not literal intent.

What commenters described: If that means forcing it to jump into water and drown, that's what it will do (horsehair worms do this).

Limit: The same commenter is upfront that any talk of the worm "forcing" or "deciding" anything is shorthand for an evolutionary process, not literal intent.

Metabolism does not alter physical time; comparative studies report an association between mass-specific metabolic rate and visual temporal resolution, which is a sensory-processing measure rather than literal slow-motion consciousness.
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What the pattern means: The comment reaches for superhero-speedster movie scenes as its explanatory shortcut — what looks like slow motion to the fast mover is a blink to everyone else — to argue that a fly dodging a swat is sampling faster, not experiencing slower time.

What commenters described: A fly, the insect, can dodge your hands swinging at them because to them, you're moving like you're stuck in molasses.

Squirrels use spatial memory and local landmarks to recover stored food
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What the pattern means: The single comment describes a genuinely clever field test: researchers relocated the dummy trees squirrels use as caching landmarks, and the animals' digging errors tracked the new tree positions closely enough to point to landmark memory rather than a fixed mental map.

What commenters described: Naturalists relocated (dummy) trees to test this and found that the squirrel digging location errors tracked the relocation geometry startlingly well.

Blindsight is residual processing of visual stimuli after primary visual-cortex damage without normal conscious visual awareness; it is not a synonym for echolocation or ordinary nonvisual spatial awareness.
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What the pattern means: The commenter's own reaction is the whole story here — hearing about blindsight for the first time, calling it mind-blowing, and only learning the correct term for the phenomenon after the fact, via their own follow-up edit.

What commenters described: I heard that some people can do that, like being aware of where stuff is without vision. Blows my mind

Some studies find a small-to-moderate association between age and reports that time passes faster, but results are method-dependent and controversial; perception does not uniformly speed up every year, and prospective timing, retrospective duration, and awareness of time passing are distinct measures.
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What the pattern means: One commenter states the age-speeds-up-perception idea as a clean, universal rule with no hedging at all — exactly the confidence the label pushes back against given how method-dependent the actual research turns out to be.

What commenters described: Your perception of the passage of time is experienced slower when you are young, and speeds up every year as you age.

A controlled free-fall experiment found that frightening events were retrospectively judged to last longer, while participants did not gain improved temporal resolution during the fall; the result favors altered memory encoding over faster online perception, not mindfulness specifically.
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What the pattern means: The commenter describes an actual freefall reading-test experiment and draws a precise line between two different things: subjects felt time slow down, but performed no better on the reading task itself, leading them to guess at a forced-mindfulness explanation rather than heightened perception.

What commenters described: They all thought they experienced the perception of time slowing down, but they didn't actually get any more cognitive work done in that time.

Limit: The commenter frames their "forced mindfulness" idea as their own guess, not something the experiment itself established.

Heritable phenotypic variation supplies alternatives on which natural selection can act; selection is differential reproductive success, not conscious “knowing.”
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What the pattern means: The comment strips natural selection down to one blunt image — nature trying on "lots of different outfits" and keeping whatever works — specifically to head off the idea that organisms or their genes "know" anything about what they're doing.

What commenters described: They don't "know" anything. This is phenotype variation. Nature tries in lots of different outfits and keeps the ones that work.

Retrieving a memory can make it temporarily modifiable, but recall does not automatically rewrite every memory
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What the pattern means: The commenter's unease centers on a rebuild-not-replay distinction: every act of remembering gets treated here as reconstructing the memory rather than pulling up a fixed recording, a framing they find outright terrifying once stated plainly.

What commenters described: you're not replaying a perfect recording, you're kind of rebuilding it each time

Richer memory encoding is a proposed explanation for retrospective time dilation, but memories are not recorded and replayed at literal video frame rates; that language is an analogy rather than a neural measurement.
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What the pattern means: The commenter extends someone else's framerate metaphor for retrospective time dilation, guessing memories might get laid down at double the normal rate during fear so playback later feels stretched — offered explicitly as a riff on an analogy, not a cited finding.

What commenters described: it could be that the memory is recorded at twice the normal framerate so when remembering it you get the impression of slowness

The claim that dreams can only use faces previously seen is unsupported
1 source record

What the pattern means: This commenter's discomfort is about generation rather than recognition — dreams apparently manufacture entire convincing strangers' faces from scratch, which they call freaky specifically because it means the brain is inventing realistic people it has never actually seen.

What commenters described: Your brain can make up entire realistic faces in dreams even though you've never consciously seen those people before.

Trazodone is metabolized partly to mCPP and can rarely be associated with hallucinations, but it is not metabolized 'like LSD' and dreams are not proof of hallucination
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What the pattern means: The commenter treats a real pharmacological detail — trazodone breaking down into a metabolite chemically related to LSD's hallucinogenic pathway — as a recent personal discovery, then offers their own theory for why more people don't notice: the hallucinations just get filed away as a strange dream.

What commenters described: our bodies break down a medication for sleep/anxiety/depression known as Trazodone in a similar way to breaking down LSD, which can cause hallucinations... most people don't report this, because they experience the hallucinations as a crazy dream

The claim that people swallow a fixed number of spiders while sleeping is an unsupported urban legend
1 source record

What the pattern means: This entry is a single bare prompt line with nothing argued beneath it, invoking the classic swallowed-spiders factoid while supplying zero evidence that anyone in the thread bothered to challenge or confirm.

What commenters described: The quantity of spiders we eat in our sleep over a lifetime

Vision loss can cause complex visual hallucinations in Charles Bonnet syndrome without schizophrenia
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What the pattern means: A firsthand account and a detailed follow-up explanation together separate this condition clearly from schizophrenia, describing it instead as the brain's normal visual-gap-filling habit misfiring once real input drops away, sometimes producing vivid, specific hallucinations like a recurring ghost figure.

What commenters described: It's NOT a psychiatric condition, it does not come with delusions, paranoia, altered mindset etc. Folks are of sound mind, but your brain is trying to help and 'suggest' things that you 'see.'

Limit: It typically doesn't affect people who have never had vision at all, only those whose sight was significantly impaired or degraded after having had it.

Infants exposed to sign language produce rhythmic manual babbling
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What the pattern means: A commenter offers a genuinely uplifting counterpoint mid-thread, noting that deaf infants exposed to sign language go through their own rhythmic 'babbling' phase in the hands, mirroring how hearing babies babble out loud.

What commenters described: Babies who are deaf and exposed to signing 'babble' in sign language in a similar way as hearing babies babble vocally.

Subjective experiences cannot be compared by direct access to another mind, but human time perception can still be tested through duration judgments, behavior, psychophysics, and neural measures; saying it cannot be confirmed at all overstates the limitation.
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What the pattern means: A commenter raises a genuinely unresolved question about subjective experience, pointing out there's no way to confirm whether two people perceive time, or even color, identically despite sharing the same language to describe it.

What commenters described: We can't even confirm whether or not we experience time the same way among our own species and we have a language to communicate it.

Pulsed radiofrequency energy can produce a microwave auditory effect
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What the pattern means: A commenter living with schizophrenia describes researching the microwave auditory effect after developing auditory symptoms, noting how easily it could be mistaken for psychiatric hallucinations in deaf radar workers who never connect their hearing to nearby equipment.

What commenters described: deaf people working in microwave radar stations experiencing the microwave auditory effect... hear clicks and pops because the effect works by pulsed cavitation

Having little inner speech does not make someone an NPC, unintelligent, reactionary, slow, immune to anxiety, or predictably more or less mentally ill or creative
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What the pattern means: People without an inner monologue describe planning, overthinking, and even managing depression just fine without narrating it in words, directly undercutting the 'NPC' jab that opens the thread; a husband and wife pair even argue over which of them is 'slower' because of it.

What commenters described: It's the same for people without an inner monologue, we just don't put our thoughts into language. We can still think ahead and plan (and overthink) just as much as y'all lol

Limit: One commenter says the absence of an inner voice does make it harder to talk back to a negative thought in the moment, even though they describe themselves as unusually low-anxiety overall.

Aphantasia is reduced or absent voluntary visual imagery, and color is a percept constructed from wavelength-dependent light and neural processing—not proof that everyone lives in a private virtual reality
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What the pattern means: Two separate commenters land on the same realization independently, that color doesn't exist in objects themselves, only in how a brain interprets reflected wavelengths, which one calls something they think about 'every day, for some weird reason.'

What commenters described: things don't have colors. objects only absorb and reflect light in a way that basically tricks us into thinking things have colors.

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Yes! Vividly! I also lucid dream, and I hate it.

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In some ways having no inner monologue does make it harder to manage negative thoughts. Advice about not listening to the negative voice in my head doesn't really apply because there is no negative voice. Thinking positive affirmations does nothing, because underneath whatever I'm saying in my head, I'm still aware of my original negative thoughts. I feel like if my problems came from an actual voice saying "you are bad and worthless" I'd be able to catch it and say "hey that's not true!", but instead I just have the concept and feeling of being bad and worthless pressing down on me. That said, I am more positive and optimistic than 99% of people I know and I feel like I have unusually low levels of anxiety (I do get depressed but I respond very well to meds so it's not really an issue anymore). I don't *think* any of this is related to the lack of inner monologue, but who knows.

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If you are talking about things like which-way experiments or the delayed quantum eraser, they are talked at length by physicist and perfectly explainable in our current framework. Before you say it, no, the delayed quantum eraser doesn't imply retrocausality.

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I think maybe you've been talking to the chat GPT too much or something.

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It is, but that is the tale that gets told to the public. There were two further experiments done, both peer reviewed, both published. Both never ever spoken about again.

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Across this category the same corrective move keeps recurring no matter the topic: commenters walk back claims that a system "knows," "decides," or "counts" — a quantum particle, a horsehair worm, a gene, a desert ant tracking its steps — into blind physical interaction or statistical variation, while the memory, dream, and perception entries show the opposite instinct: people using the thread to name and compare their own private inner experience — an inner voice, a mental image, a felt sense of time — sometimes realizing mid-comment they'd had the wrong word for it their whole life.

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Scientific claim or discovery and how commenters explained or corrected it: Astronomy, cosmology, and space

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A nearby gamma-ray burst could severely affect Earth
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What the pattern means: The original doomsday framing about gamma rays 'microwaving' the planet drew both gallows humor and a real correction, since repliers point out gamma radiation doesn't heat tissue the way a microwave does and that any lethal burst would need to originate from within our own galaxy.

What commenters described: I mean technically it all depends on how far away it's coming from, but if it's from within the Milky Way, I doubt anybody would figure out what's going on before they were dead.

Limit: "Literally no. Gamma rays, by definition, cannot microwave anything," one reply notes, and the original poster concedes the word was meant figuratively.

Ethyl formate was detected in Sagittarius B2 and is associated with rum aroma and raspberry flavor on Earth, but this does not mean the cloud literally smells or tastes that way
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What the pattern means: The rum-and-raspberries description of the Sagittarius B2 cloud got a round of jokes before two commenters walked back the framing, distinguishing simple alcohol molecules like methanol and ethanol from the complex beverage sense of the word.

What commenters described: analysis of the cloud has indicated the presence of ethyl formate. This is an ester which can act as a precursor to amino acids.

Limit: One reply notes it's "easy for the layperson to conflate" the chemistry sense of alcohol with the drink, which is exactly what the media's rum/raspberry framing invites.

The reply offers no identified nearby gamma-ray-burst progenitor; absence of a named known candidate is not evidence that Earth faces zero GRB risk.
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What the pattern means: Pushing back on the microwave-the-planet gamma-ray-burst scenario, one reply points out there's no known nearby progenitor star capable of producing it, though that's a statement about what we haven't found rather than proof the risk is zero.

What commenters described: I dont think there are currently any actual known candidates in proximity of earth for that to happen iirc.

A GRB lethal to Earth from thousands of galaxies away would require an energy and collimation far beyond observed bursts; known hazard estimates require a burst in or near the Milky Way with a jet aimed at Earth.
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What the pattern means: Someone objects to the reassurance that a distant gamma-ray burst couldn't reach Earth, arguing an unusually narrow beam fired from thousands of galaxies away could theoretically 'snipe' us without warning, though that would require far more extreme beaming than any observed burst has shown.

What commenters described: We could always win the cosmic lottery and have an unusually narrow beam snipe up from several thousand galaxies away and we'd never see it coming.

The closest recorded GRBs are extragalactic and far beyond the Milky Way, consistent with there being no known nearby GRB threatening Earth.
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What the pattern means: One long, numbers-heavy reply does the most work in the whole gamma-ray-burst cluster, walking through why a lethal burst would need to originate within about 10,000 light-years and why the beam's narrow angular spread makes even nearby bursts hard to predict.

What commenters described: For something 8,000 lightyears away to be energetic enough to blast us hard enough to kill everything... that's ludicrous levels of energy.

A speed of 700 km/s is about 23 times Earth’s roughly 30 km/s orbital speed, not 70% of it.
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What the pattern means: A speed comparison meant to sound dramatic ends up just being wrong: 700 km/s is described as '70% as fast as we are moving around the sun,' when Earth's actual orbital speed of roughly 30 km/s makes 700 km/s about twenty-three times faster, not a fraction of it.

What commenters described: That's about 70% as fast as we are moving around the sun currently.

Published Earth-impact models for a nearby gamma-ray burst predict severe ozone depletion, elevated ultraviolet exposure, and food-web disruption, but they do not establish that the entire biosphere would be burned sterile.
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What the pattern means: Responding to a bunker-survival question, one commenter raises the stakes considerably, claiming that without protecting the entire planet a nearby gamma-ray burst would sterilize the whole biosphere, a much more absolute outcome than the published ozone-loss and food-web-disruption estimates actually describe.

What commenters described: You can build a huge bunker but all that does is delay your doom by a few months.

Extraterrestrial life may be plausible, but no life beyond Earth has been confirmed, so “it definitely exists” is not established.
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What the pattern means: One reply takes a firm stance that alien life 'definitely exists' purely on statistical grounds, then immediately undercuts any excitement about it by arguing the distances involved make actual contact between two species close to physically impossible.

What commenters described: space is simply too vast for us to be the only life out there, but by that same token it's far too big for us to ever actually meet any of it.

Limit: The confident "it definitely exists" framing outruns the evidence — no life beyond Earth has actually been confirmed, whatever the statistical argument for probability.

A mirror 65 million light-years away would return an image delayed by roughly 130 million years because the light must make a round trip; seeing Earth 65 million years ago would require a mirror about 32.5 million light-years away, already positioned and suitably oriented.
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What the pattern means: The pitch of pointing a telescope at a hypothetical mirror to watch dinosaurs live again is the kind of idea that 'breaks' a commenter's sense of time, but it glosses over the light needing to make a full round trip, meaning the mirror would have to sit roughly half the target distance away, not the full 65 million light-years.

What commenters described: if there was a mirror 65 million light years away and we looked into that mirror with a telescope we would be able to look at dinosaurs and see the past.

Digitized pre-Sputnik sky plates contain disputed transient candidates; artificial satellites have not been established
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What the pattern means: This one leans fringe rather than settled: a claim about pre-Sputnik photographic plates showing tens of thousands of satellite-like 'glints' is presented alongside a persecution narrative about the researcher being mocked by academia, with no independent confirmation offered in the comment itself.

What commenters described: tens of thousands of transient 'glints' (objects) around Earth's orbit that appear to be artificial satellites, despite being recorded years before the launch of Sputnik 1.

Limit: The claim rests on one poster's account of a single researcher's disputed findings, framed as suppressed truth rather than something independently verified.

In the low-redshift Hubble relation, recession speed is proportional to distance, so an object twice as far has roughly twice the recession speed after local peculiar motions are separated.
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What the pattern means: Untangling dark matter from dark energy for another commenter, this reply lands on the concrete consequence: because space itself expands uniformly, a galaxy twice as far away recedes roughly twice as fast, and some galaxies are far enough that their light will never reach us at all.

What commenters described: the farthest galaxies are essentially moving away from us faster than the speed of light, so the light they emit at this moment will never reach us.

Limit: The commenter flags their own recall as approximate, "I don't remember the exact numbers," before giving the roughly 2000 km/s recession figure.

Proxima Centauri is about 4.2 light-years away, so a change there cannot be seen at Earth until its light arrives roughly 4.2 years later.
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What the pattern means: An astronomy educator's go-to outreach fact reframes 'a star could vanish and we wouldn't know for years' at galactic scale: Andromeda's light left when our ancestors were still Homo habilis, so anyone there looking back at Earth right now would see apes, not us.

What commenters described: The light we're seeing that was emitted from Andromeda left the galaxy 2.5 million years ago, when humanity was still known as homo habilis.

Limit: The aside about Betelgeuse already having gone supernova is flagged by the commenter as 'rumors' and a likelihood, not a confirmed event.

The claim that Great-Attractor acceleration is necessarily smaller now because galaxies used to be closer is an oversimplification of evolving large-scale gravitational flows.
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What the pattern means: Explaining why the Great Attractor's pull on us feels so gentle despite its scale, one commenter compares it to a rocket gaining 8 km/s in 8 minutes off full thrust, versus the same rough velocity gain from the Attractor spread out over hundreds of trillions of times longer.

What commenters described: Consider that a rocket to Earth orbit gains something like 8 kilometers per second in 8 minutes launching at 2-3 Gs or so. The excess velocity towards the Great Attractor is about 100 times greater than that, but imparted over hundreds of trillions of times longer.

At about 6,500 light-years away, the expanding Crab Nebula is not propagating toward Earth as a threatening object.
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What the pattern means: A childhood memory captures how easy it is to misjudge astronomical scale: hearing the Crab Nebula was 'expanding at 1000 miles an hour' was enough to keep a seven-year-old up at night worrying it was headed toward Earth, despite sitting some 6,500 light-years away.

What commenters described: I read that the nebula was expanding about 1000 miles an hour, and I had trouble sleeping, worrying about the Crab Nebula coming to get us!

Multiple lines of evidence support a global salty ocean beneath Europa’s ice
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What the pattern means: Just as tersely, another poster names Europa's hidden ocean as their pick for an impossible-sounding-but-real discovery, pointing at the moon rather than explaining the magnetic-field and surface-ice evidence that actually supports a global salty ocean underneath.

What commenters described: The underwater ocean on Jupiter's moon.

Kepler-452 b is about 1,400 light-years away, and no life or nitrogen-oxygen-methane-water atmosphere has been detected there
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What the pattern means: Detected life, and a nitrogen-oxygen-methane-water atmosphere, on 'Kepler-452c' roughly 1,200 years ago -- the supporting comment is itself the exact false claim the item exists to correct, details that match no real observation of Kepler-452 b.

What commenters described: Oxygen was a toxic waste product, and humans are evolved from early aerobic life forms from the Mesoarchean that only had a chance to thrive because of a massive explosion of cyanobacteria.

Limit: The atmosphere-detection and 'life 1200 years ago' claims for 'Kepler-452c' aren't supported by any actual observation, which is exactly the false claim the item catalogs.

The claim that an event 60 light-years away would not be visible to the naked eye is false as a general brightness argument: GRB 080319B briefly reached naked-eye brightness from 7.5 billion light-years away.
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What the pattern means: A detailed rebuttal walks through why a gamma-ray burst 60 light-years away being invisible to the naked eye is a bad general argument, pointing to the real GRB 080319B, which briefly reached naked-eye brightness from billions of light-years farther away.

What commenters described: For it to kill us it would still have to occur relatively close within the Milky Way, within around 10,000 lightyears.

Limit: At 60 lightyears it wouldn't be visble to the naked eye.

How long a bunker could sustain occupants after a gamma-ray burst depends on shielding, stored resources, life-support design, and the event; “a few months” is not a general scientific limit, while modeled atmospheric effects can persist for years.
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What the pattern means: A comment on surviving a gamma-ray burst in a bunker treats sheltering as only a brief delay, arguing that without protecting the entire biosphere, food and oxygen would still eventually run out.

What commenters described: You can build a huge bunker but all that does is delay your doom by a few months.

Interstellar distances make contact difficult, but science does not establish that two species can never encounter one another or that contact is possible only within one solar system.
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What the pattern means: A commenter argues space itself, not government secrecy, is why humans will likely never meet alien life, reasoning that two civilizations would essentially need to evolve in the same solar system for contact to be physically feasible.

What commenters described: space is simply too vast for us to be the only life out there, but by that same token it's far too big for us to ever actually meet any of it.

Even as a thought experiment, resolving individual dinosaurs across tens of millions of light-years would require an unrealistically capable optical system; the valid core is that received light shows the past.
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What the pattern means: A viral thought experiment about a mirror 65 million light-years away letting us watch dinosaurs breaks the commenter's sense of time, even though resolving individual animals at that distance would need an implausibly powerful telescope.

What commenters described: if there was a mirror 65 million light years away and we looked into that mirror with a telescope we would be able to look at dinosaurs and see the past and I just don't like having my perception of time break like that.

Strong black-hole lensing can produce multiple and highly distorted views, but seeing the back of one's own head is not a generic horizon effect
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What the pattern means: The claim that approaching a black hole's event horizon lets you see the back of your own head is offered as a theoretical curiosity, with the commenter's own hedge signaling it's a thought experiment rather than something anyone has observed.

What commenters described: I guess this is theoretical but still wild: If you were to approach the Event Horizon of a Black Hole, light would bend around and you would see the back of your head in front of you.

Describing galaxies as “falling” toward a basin of attraction is a metaphor for peculiar velocities generated by gravity, not literal infall into a single object.
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What the pattern means: A commenter describes the sensation of learning our whole galaxy is technically 'falling' toward some distant mass as genuinely disorienting, even while treating the word 'falling' as doing a lot of metaphorical work.

What commenters described: It short circuits my brain that we (the whole galaxy etc) are technically "falling" toward whatever it is.

The Solar System’s ecliptic plane is inclined by roughly 60 degrees to the Milky Way’s plane, so the Galactic band is not generally confined to the local horizon.
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What the pattern means: A commenter works out the geometry of our own solar system's tilt relative to the Milky Way, reasoning that if the two planes matched, the galactic band would sit fixed around the horizon every night instead of arcing overhead.

What commenters described: If the solar system were rotating in the same plane as the galaxy, the Milky Way would be around the horizon at night. But it's not, which means we're streaming through space with our south pole first.

Sagittarius B2 contains gas-phase organic molecules including ethanol, but '400 trillion pints of beer' is a misleading volume extrapolation, not a drinkable alcohol nebula
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What the pattern means: The viral '400 trillion pints of beer' framing for the Sagittarius B2 cloud gets a quick, drier correction that the actual molecule is closer to trillions of pints of everclear than anything drinkable as beer.

Limit: I think the signature that comes from that cloud is ethyl alcohol, so more like 400 trillion handles of everclear.

Titan has observed lakes and seas of liquid methane and ethane, not ethanol or evidence that simple organic molecules have completed most steps toward intelligent life
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What the pattern means: The claim slides from 'ethanol is a fairly simple, common molecule' to 'Titan has oceans of it,' when what's actually observed on Titan is ethane and methane — close structural cousins of ethanol and methanol, not the same compounds.

Gamma-ray bursts can appear without useful warning, and not every progenitor provides an observable million-year swelling signal; the burst and its electromagnetic information arrive together at light speed.
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What the pattern means: One long reply reframes gamma-ray bursts as a lesson in causality rather than optics, arguing that a star already gone supernova is, from Earth's vantage, still years away from that event simply because the light carrying that information hasn't arrived yet — effectively describing the delay as built-in time travel rather than a warning anyone could act on.

What commenters described: We can see a star swelling up for millions of years before it goes supernova.

The enormous number of galaxies makes extraterrestrial life plausible to investigate, but scale alone does not establish that life—let alone technologically communicating life—must exist elsewhere.
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What the pattern means: Faced with images of thousands of galaxies clustered together, one commenter concludes it's simply impossible that Earth is the only inhabited world, treating sheer numerical scale as its own kind of proof rather than a reason to keep looking for evidence.

What commenters described: Those large scale structures of thousands and thousands of galaxies. I can't look at them and think we're alone, it seems impossible.

Positive and negative peculiar-velocity values describe line-of-sight deviations from mean Hubble expansion under a sign convention and viewing geometry; a negative value is not evidence that the Great Attractor gravitationally “pushes” the Milky Way away.
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What the pattern means: Correcting a common misreading of the Great Attractor's peculiar-velocity figures, one commenter walks through why a negative value in the +/-700 km/s range doesn't mean the structure is pushing the Milky Way away — it reflects a sign convention tied to viewing angle and line-of-sight deviation from average expansion, not a repulsive force.

What commenters described: the variations in their redshifts are known as peculiar velocities, and cover a range from about +700 km/s to −700 km/s, depending on the angular deviation from the direction to the Great Attractor

Saturn's ring age remains debated; darkening resistance permits old rings, while dynamical evidence can still favor a young ring system, and the rings did not simply form in a few days
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What the pattern means: A stray claim that Saturn's rings formed in just a few days draws immediate suspicion from other commenters, while the idea that circulates more comfortably in this same thread is the opposite one, that the rings might be self-cleaning and as old as the solar system itself.

What commenters described: the rings may be self cleaning and as old as everything else

Limit: For some reason, I feel like you could possibly be making this up, one reader responds to the few-days formation claim.

The Shapley concentration is a massive concentration of galaxies and contributes to the large-scale peculiar-velocity field beyond the Great Attractor.
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What the pattern means: Only two lines make up this record, both leaning into the 'attractor pulling an attractor' framing for dramatic effect rather than describing the underlying physics of a galaxy concentration contributing to a shared velocity field.

Deep-field telescopes reveal thousands to tens of thousands of galaxies in tiny sky patches, not millions in a single ordinary random image
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What the pattern means: The founding comment inflates the real deep-field telescope story into 'millions of galaxies in one image,' a jump the record doesn't support next to the actual thousands-to-tens-of-thousands counts astronomers report from those images.

Life in Venus's clouds remains unconfirmed, and the reported phosphine signal is disputed
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What the pattern means: The single line here states possible cloud life on Venus as though it were an established finding rather than the contested, still-unconfirmed phosphine signal it actually is.

The Crab Nebula is the expanding remnant of the supernova observed in 1054 and expands at about 1,500 km/s—not about 1,000 miles per hour.
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What the pattern means: The commenter's memory is a childhood one — learning as a seven-year-old in the 1970s that the Crab Nebula was expanding at roughly 1,000 miles an hour, and genuinely losing sleep worrying about it "coming to get us," a fear built on a unit of speed that turns out to be badly wrong.

What commenters described: I read that the nebula was expanding about about 1000 miles an hour, and I had trouble sleeping, worrying about the Crab Nebula coming to get us!

The Great Attractor affects Local Group motion
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What the pattern means: Commenters mostly trade jokes about an unseen mass tugging the Milky Way, but the substantive replies clarify that the 2014 discovery was really a redefinition of the Laniakea supercluster around this gravitational flow, with the dusty 'zone of avoidance' explaining why the source itself stays hidden.

What commenters described: In 2014 our supercluster, Laniakea, was defined by being pulled towards the Great Attractor. The volume was redrawn by this definition.

Limit: We can't observe it through our own galactic zone of avoidance, so its exact nature is inferred rather than seen directly.

Cosmic expansion does not require expansion into an external space
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What the pattern means: Replies lean on the balloon-surface and stretched-number-line analogies to explain that expansion has no 'into,' and one commenter pushes back that dark energy isn't even required to explain expansion in the first place, since the phenomenon predates that model.

What commenters described: Think of space expanding more like the surface of a balloon as it blows up, rather than into empty space.

Limit: Expansion didn't and doesn't need dark energy, and was in the model long before, so attributing the whole phenomenon to dark energy overstates what's settled.

Probing below the Planck scale would necessarily form a black hole
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What the pattern means: Between the jokes, a few replies get specific about what 'zooming in' even means physically, tying the energy requirement to CERN-scale collisions and noting that current instruments simply aren't observing anything at that scale rather than confirming a black hole would form.

Limit: One reply cautions that this reflects only current observations, not settled physics: claiming we already know the whole truth at the Planck scale kills science.

No experiment has proved that the universe is a simulation, and assigning it the highest statistical probability lacks an empirical reference class
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What the pattern means: The thread turns into a genuine methodological argument: one side calls simulation theory 'astrology for people who think they're clever' because a single data point can't support statistical claims, and nobody in the thread can actually produce the promised proof.

What commenters described: In order to make a statistical argument, you need at least two data points. How many examples of perfectly simulated worlds do you have?

Limit: It's a fundamentally unprovable claim since we have one data point and are inside the system being questioned.

Inside a nonrotating black-hole event horizon, decreasing radius becomes unavoidable like moving toward the future, but saying space and time literally switch roles is coordinate shorthand
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What the pattern means: A physics-literate reply corrects the popular sci-fi framing directly, pointing out that the maximum time dilation an object can experience while still escaping is only about 3:1 at the photon sphere, and that nothing below that ever holds a stable orbit.

What commenters described: Science fiction greatly distorts the actual effects. The maximum you can experience is about 3:1 at the photon sphere.

Limit: Once you're below the event horizon things radically change, and whether time dilation even makes sense down there is still not something physics can fully describe.

Standard cosmology does not require an outside space into which the universe expands.
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What the pattern means: Several replies refine the balloon analogy down to just its surface, arguing that a spreading-out geometry doesn't logically require any embedding space around it, and one dismisses the idea that something must exist beyond a universe's edge as an intuition failure rather than a physical necessity.

What commenters described: Our universe is this kind of space, therefore it can change, grow or shrink without needing any further scaffolding.

The Great Attractor is a mapped large-scale gravitational-flow region associated with galaxy clusters behind the Milky Way, not an invisible ultramassive black hole about to swallow us
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What the pattern means: Unlike the joking primary thread, this one stays technical: commenters rule out a black hole origin on scale grounds alone, since even the largest known supermassive black holes fall short of the mass needed, and instead point to an obscured galaxy cluster or the combined pull of many galaxies.

What commenters described: It's a super cluster of galaxies. Many times more massive than the largest theoretical supermassive black hole.

Limit: We're not actually getting closer to it; we're just decelerating relative to it, which is a weaker and more ambiguous signal than 'being pulled in.'

The Big Bang model describes an early hot, dense, expanding universe; it does not identify an object that exploded, prove creation from nothing, or establish what—if anything—came before
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What the pattern means: One long reply directly rebuts the 'everything from nothing' framing, insisting that the actual evidence only shows the universe was hotter and denser 13.8 billion years ago, and that any claim about a prior state or true origin is speculation dressed up as physics.

What commenters described: As far back as we can trace the history of the universe, all we can determine is that everything was much denser and hotter about 13.8 billion years ago.

Limit: A proposed alternative, that our universe emerged from a false vacuum decay of a prior one, is called out as already largely falsified because it predicts an inhomogeneous universe that clashes with the observed uniformity of the cosmic microwave background.

If the Sun vanished in an unphysical thought experiment, Earth would receive neither the optical nor gravitational change until about 8 minutes 20 seconds later; gravity and light propagate at c
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What the pattern means: Replies tighten the thought experiment's physics rather than just repeating it, insisting light and gravity aren't merely similar in speed but identical, both capped by what one commenter calls the speed of causality.

What commenters described: They are not about the same, they are exactly the same... they are both the speed of causality, which is the maximum speed of anything in the universe.

Limit: The scenario is explicitly unphysical since stars don't simply vanish, so the 8-minute delay is a teaching tool rather than a real astrophysical event.

Finite light speed creates unavoidable latency, but Earth and Moon communication remain live: Earth–Moon round-trip light time is about 2.6 seconds and Mars varies roughly 6–44 minutes round trip
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What the pattern means: One reply undercuts the original claim with concrete numbers, arguing that Earth-based gaming lag comes from network routing overhead rather than light itself, since fiber signal delay New York to Sydney is only about 50ms versus roughly 220ms once packet hops are counted.

What commenters described: The speed of light traveling uninterrupted that same distance takes only 50ms, which is considered in the optimal range for multiplayer gaming.

Limit: Even the corrected, near-optimal fiber delay is still called uncompetitive for fast-paced games once round-trip time is counted, so the underlying light-speed limit still bites at planetary scale.

Elevated oxygen increases fire activity, but there is no single sharp percentage at which runaway global fire starts or all fire becomes impossible
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What the pattern means: Commenters place real numbers on the historical Carboniferous fire regime, describing a world with oxygen high enough to sustain near-constant burning and a perpetual haze, while noting fire simply couldn't ignite once oxygen dropped under roughly 16 percent.

What commenters described: The Carboniferous era was rife with wildfires for this reason... the sky would have had a perpetual yellow haze... year round.

Limit: In the times when the oxygen was below 16% or so there were no wild fires; fire was impossible below that threshold, not just less common.

Astronomers detected ethanol in the star-forming molecular cloud G34.3+0.15, but it is a sparse molecular component in an unbreathable cloud—not a drinkable cloud of booze
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What the pattern means: Replies pile on with genuinely absurd math about the size of the ethanol cloud near Aquila, but also flag that it's a toxic 32-compound cocktail including hydrogen cyanide and carbon monoxide, which is why nobody is proposing an interstellar pub crawl.

What commenters described: It contains enough ethyl alcohol to fill 400 trillion trillion pints of beer... To down that much alcohol, every person on earth would have to drink 300,000 pints each day for one billion years.

Limit: It's also a cocktail of 32 compounds, some of them as nasty as carbon monoxide, hydrogen cyanide, and ammonia, and the cloud sits 58 quadrillion miles away.

Planet Nine remains hypothetical: models propose roughly 5–10 Earth masses to explain some distant-object orbital patterns, but it has not been observed and the evidence is debated
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What the pattern means: Commenters get specific about how the search will actually resolve, naming the Vera Rubin Observatory's full-sky scan as the tool likely to confirm or rule out the planet within a couple of years, while one voice pushes back that a body this distant could have an orbital period too long for a short survey window to catch.

What commenters described: It's very powerful, and could detect the hypothetical Planet Nine just from the tiniest changes in blocked background light or even very minor gravitational lensing.

Limit: A very oblong, generations-long orbit could keep the planet essentially undetectable regardless of how good the instrument is.

JWST has found unexpectedly bright and mature-looking early galaxies, not galaxies older than the universe
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What the pattern means: A reply directly corrects the headline-style claim, arguing that JWST found galaxies more mature than expected for their era, not literally older than the universe, and that the sensational phrasing conflates 'our universe' with 'our current model of galaxy formation.'

What commenters described: The James Webb Space Telescope has observed galaxies in deep space that are farther away and more fully developed than some previous models of the expansion and evolution of the universe after the big bang predicted.

Limit: The finding could mean missing physics in galaxy-formation models, an earlier Big Bang, or an incomplete theory, so which explanation is correct remains genuinely open.

Shark-like fishes predate Polaris, while Polaris's role as the north star changes through axial precession rather than because it has only 12,000 years left to exist
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What the pattern means: Repeated near-identical replies drive home two separate facts commenters want distinguished: sharks predate Polaris as an actual star, not merely predate its current role as the north star, which will pass to Vega in about 12,000 years.

What commenters described: Sharks are older than the North Star. Not its positioning within the sky - sharks are older than the formation and stellar ignition of the star Polaris.

The Sun will brighten enough to threaten Earth's habitability long before becoming a red giant in roughly five billion years; exact engulfment and human-colonization claims remain model-dependent
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What the pattern means: Commenters mostly defuse the original doom framing by pointing out the multi-billion-year timescale involved, with one noting dryly that it would be 'a fantastic problem to have' if humanity is even still around to face it.

Limit: The original claim leans on the Drake equation and habitable-zone colonization odds, which several replies treat as a much softer, more speculative argument than the Sun's eventual expansion itself.

A freely falling observer crosses a sufficiently large black hole’s event horizon in finite proper time; time does not locally stop there, although a distant observer receives increasingly redshifted signals.
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What the pattern means: A detailed reply quantifies what falling into a specific supermassive black hole would actually feel like, estimating about a day of subjective time to reach the singularity of the M87 black hole while, in theory, an unbounded stretch of external time passes outside.

What commenters described: For most of that time that you spend traveling towards the singularity, you would feel nothing, and be perfectly fine... You wouldn't notice anything until right near the end, when you would be ripped apart by tidal forces.

Limit: Anything beyond the event horizon is purely theoretical, and physicists flag any 'infinite' figure here as really meaning 'we don't actually know.'

The inflating-balloon surface is a useful lower-dimensional analogy for increasing cosmological distances, not evidence that our universe expands into a literal fourth spatial dimension.
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What the pattern means: The thread argues with itself over the balloon analogy's usefulness, with one commenter insisting the expanding-into-a-fourth-dimension framing is 'irrelevant puffery' and that a plain, non-expanding spherical surface conveys the same distance relationships just fine.

Limit: The balloon-expanding part of the analogy is called out as misleading rather than illustrative, since it invites people to picture the universe expanding into some literal outer space.

JWST spectra of K2-18 b produced a tentative, model-dependent DMS/DMDS signal—not a confirmed biosignature or discovery of alien life
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What the pattern means: A self-identified exoplanet researcher deflates the Cambridge team's headline finding from the inside, saying the molecular signal is almost certainly a false positive because the statistical model used had far more flexibility than the sparse data could support.

Limit: The detection is almost certainly a false positive; the model is far too flexible for the number of data points they had.

The Big Bang was an expansion of space occurring everywhere rather than an explosion from a location inside preexisting space, so there is no spatial origin point for everything to return to.
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What the pattern means: Against a commenter's tidy idea that the Great Attractor marks the exact point everything will someday fall back into, replies point to the cosmic microwave background as proof the Big Bang has no single point of origin, so there is no location to be pulled back toward.

What commenters described: The Big Bang does not seem to have occurred at a single point, but rather at every point.

Limit: Because cosmic expansion is accelerating due to dark energy, a Big Crunch style return to any point looks unlikely under current evidence.

Astronomical light is a view into the past, but most naked-eye stars are unlikely to have died during their short light-travel delay, and homogeneous cosmic expansion has no unique central location
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What the pattern means: Several near-duplicate posts restate the same night-sky-as-time-machine idea, that some visible stars may have already died before their light reaches us, while a lone reply adds the separate point that homogeneous expansion leaves the universe with no locatable center at all.

What commenters described: A night sky is a window to see the past... some of them ceased to exist even before earth was created.

A human is nearer the observable-universe end than the Planck-length end on a logarithmic scale, but 'smallest thing we can detect' is undefined and the comparison changes on a linear scale
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What the pattern means: A reply demands the vague original claim be pinned down mathematically, pointing out that 'closer to' only means something once you specify orders of magnitude, after which another commenter agrees humans do sit roughly mid-scale on a logarithmic ruler.

Limit: The size difference between a person and the smallest detectable thing is about 6'5" in absolute terms, so the claim only holds on a logarithmic rather than linear scale.

LIGO directly detected gravitational waves in September 2015, opening gravitational-wave astronomy
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What the pattern means: Commenters frame LIGO's 2015 detection as a genuine turning point, comparing it to the historical opening of X-ray, microscope, and radio astronomy rather than treating it as a merely academic confirmation of a prediction.

What commenters described: This has opened up a whole new vision of science, not unlike the discovery of X-rays, microscopes, telescopes and radio waves.

The summed mean diameters of the seven other planets are just under the average Earth–Moon center distance, so the planets narrowly fit only under a particular comparison
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What the pattern means: Multiple posts independently restate the same striking spatial comparison, with one commenter admitting they keep having to re-verify the fact themselves because the emptiness it implies is hard to hold onto.

What commenters described: That all the planets in our solar system can fit between the Earth and the Moon if lined up end to end, blows my mind! I constantly have to re-research that fact just to make sure.

Wood and open combustion depend on biology and oxygen, but their cosmic rarity cannot currently be ranked
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What the pattern means: A short exchange extends the wood-rarity claim to fire itself, landing on the wry observation that combustion on Earth is ultimately a side effect of plants existing at all.

Limit: The rarity claim rests on how specific and improbable the conditions for plant life are thought to be, which is inherently unmeasurable rather than a settled ranking.

Boltzmann brains are a conditional cosmological measure problem, not evidence that any reader is probably a fluctuation
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What the pattern means: The original post lays out the entropy argument at length, that a lone fluctuating brain is statistically far cheaper for the universe to produce than an entire ordered history, and replies double down by tying the same reasoning to simulation theory as a kind of statistical package deal.

What commenters described: In an infinite, eternal universe it must happen eventually... it's many many times more likely that you are a tiny blip of low entropy... than an organic brain that's part of a very large fluke of low entropy.

Limit: Both this and the simulation argument are acknowledged as unprovable statistics rather than physical evidence: 'there's no proof but the math heavily supports it.'

Thought experiments combining quantum localization with general relativity motivate a possible minimum measurable length near the Planck scale because concentrating enough energy may form a microscopic black hole; this is theoretical, not an observed hard boundary where physics stops.
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What the pattern means: A commenter walks through the actual mechanism behind the Planck-length limit, that probing shorter distances needs higher-energy particles until the energy density gets concentrated enough to collapse into a microscopic black hole rather than reveal anything smaller.

What commenters described: To probe smaller and smaller distances, you need shorter wavelengths, which means higher energy particles.

Limit: The black hole outcome is explicitly flagged as theoretical, not an observed boundary where physics actually stops.

A narrow combustion window as the solution to the Fermi paradox is an interesting hypothesis, not an established scientific explanation
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What the pattern means: A long reply builds out the full 'fire problem' argument step by step: life needs an oxidizer, oxygen is the only one compatible with organic chemistry, and the resulting atmosphere has to sit in a narrow band that's neither too fire-prone nor too weak to smelt metal.

What commenters described: The path from intelligence to space-faring civilization almost certainly runs through controlling fire. This is why dolphins, despite their intelligence, are not technological.

Limit: The whole chain is offered as one candidate explanation for the Great Silence, not a proven filter, and the commenter concedes a fire-free route to spacefaring 'cannot be ruled out entirely.'

T. rex lived closer to the 1969 Moon landing than to Stegosaurus, but the margin is roughly 15–20 million years, not about 65 million
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What the pattern means: A one-word reply catches the original poster rounding the gap wrong, correcting the commonly cited 65 million years to the more accurate 66.

Limit: The exact size of the gap is itself an approximation drawn from dating uncertainty, so even '66 million years' is a rounded figure rather than a precise count.

General-relativistic recession speeds between sufficiently distant galaxies can exceed c without local motion through space exceeding light speed
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What the pattern means: The original poster imagines a future civilization that would see only the Milky Way and mistake it for the entire universe, while a reply narrows the claim considerably, noting it's only the galaxies far enough away that recede faster than light, since a few hundred nearby ones are gravitationally bound to eventually merge with us instead.

What commenters described: A few hundred local galaxies will merge with the Milkyway sooner or later, the rest will move away.

The iron in bodies ultimately comes from stellar nucleosynthesis, but an individual iron atom did not necessarily form in a core and then kill that same star
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What the pattern means: A reply reframes the 'star stuff' claim to drop the shakier idea that a specific atom's formation killed its parent star, instead grounding the sense of cosmic connection in the plainer fact that iron and calcium in the body simply couldn't exist without a star having exploded at some point.

What commenters described: Once you realize that the iron in your blood, the calcium in your bones ONLY comes from an exploded star, you gain a higher awareness of your relationship with the universe.

The observed peculiar-velocity field requires a gravitational source represented by the distribution of matter and energy; “something behaving like mass” is an imprecise but directionally reasonable shorthand.
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What the pattern means: Commenters default to careful, hedged language here rather than naming a culprit outright, treating 'mass or something with mass-like behavior' as the only physically sound way to describe whatever is generating this scale of gravitational pull.

What commenters described: It's speculated to be a mass because gravity is a property of masses in the fabric of spacetime. There's really no other plausible explanation.

Local gravitational peculiar velocities can coexist with overall cosmic expansion; the Great Attractor affects a limited region rather than drawing the whole universe inward.
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What the pattern means: A fish-in-a-river analogy does the heavy lifting here, casting cosmic expansion as a current pushing everything downstream while the Great Attractor's gravity is a doomed attempt to swim against it.

What commenters described: The 'river' of space is moving faster than the fish can swim, meaning this fish can never arrive upstream and is slowly being pushed away from it.

Many heavy atoms in bodies were forged by stars, while most hydrogen formed before the first stars
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What the pattern means: A precise figure grounds the poetic 'recycled supernova debris' framing: roughly 98 percent of all matter was made in the Big Bang's first twenty minutes, leaving only the heavier elements in the body to be credited to stars that didn't form until 400 million years later.

What commenters described: 98% of all of the matter in the universe was synthesized during the first ~20-minutes of the Big Bang.

Robotic spacecraft have already crossed the heliopause, so leaving the solar system is not impossible; crewed interstellar travel remains far beyond present engineering
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What the pattern means: Against the claim that leaving the solar system is essentially impossible, a reply simply points at Voyager already out past the heliopause and still radioing data home decades later.

What commenters described: That Voyager is where it is. And still sending information.

Science has not established whether life exists beyond Earth; both total solitude and populated-universe certainty exceed the evidence
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What the pattern means: Faced with the original poster's binary dread over whether we're alone, a reply offers a third option worth sitting with: civilizations might exist but stay quiet on purpose, borrowing the 'dark forest' logic that broadcasting your location into an unknown void is a risk, not a courtesy.

What commenters described: If you were alone in a dark forest, would you want to broadcast your position into the darkness around you?

Atmospheric oxygen can be a biosignature in chemical context, but abiotic processes can also generate it and an anoxic planet can still host life
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What the pattern means: A detailed reply complicates the simple 'oxygen means life' heuristic, explaining that oxygen only reads as a biosignature because it reacts away so quickly that finding it free implies something is actively replenishing it, usually photosynthesis, though other unknown processes could in principle do the same job.

What commenters described: CO2 exists in large amounts even in places without life present (see Venus) so finding that on an exoplanet wouldn't make us wonder if there's life.

Limit: It's 100% possible that there is another natural phenomenon in the universe which can pull oxygen out of CO2 or H2O, so an oxygen detection alone can't rule out an abiotic source.

A cyclic recollapse is a speculative cosmological model, not an observed consequence of the Great Attractor; current observations instead show that cosmic expansion has been accelerating.
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What the pattern means: Where one commenter fantasizes about a repeating universe that cycles back through the Great Attractor, the reply pulls the conversation back to current data, noting that accelerating expansion driven by dark energy makes any such recollapse look unlikely under present observations.

Limit: The Big Crunch scenario is unlikely unless the universe stops expanding, and nothing in current measurements points toward that happening.

Oceans cover about 71% of Earth's surface, not most of the planet by total volume
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What the pattern means: A single-line caveat keeps the original claim honest, flagging that 'more water than land' only holds when measuring surface area and falls apart if you're comparing by volume instead.

Limit: Caveat: only true with Earth's surface area, not volume.

Space expands on cosmological scales, while gravitationally bound systems do not simply stretch with the universe
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What the pattern means: Both posts state the expansion claim as a bare headline with no supporting detail, one adding an offhand prediction that everything eventually gets destroyed as a result, without saying how or when.

Limit: Neither post offers any mechanism, timescale, or source for the follow-on claim that expansion will eventually destroy everything.

The 2014 Laniakea study defined our home supercluster dynamically as the contiguous basin enclosed by flow-divergence boundaries, with peculiar-velocity streams converging near the Norma/Great Attractor region.
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What the pattern means: A reply spells out how the 2014 Laniakea study actually worked methodologically, that our home supercluster was defined by which galaxies get pulled toward the Great Attractor and which don't, rather than by any prior guess at its physical boundary.

What commenters described: In 2014 the Laniakea Supercluster was (re)defined by what is being pulled towards the Great Attractor or not.

The Great Attractor is not a mysterious single object but a region where reconstructed local velocity flows converge near massive clusters; calling it simply the center of gravity of a supercluster is useful shorthand, though the actual mass distribution is extended.
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What the pattern means: Where headlines make the Great Attractor sound exotic, one commenter deflates it entirely, insisting it's most likely just a supercluster's ordinary center of gravity and 'nothing special going on' beyond our limited ability to observe it.

What commenters described: We are pretty sure it is nothing at all, it just is the center of gravity of a super cluster.

At the Moon’s average center-to-center distance of 384,400 km, the seven other planets’ diameters total roughly the same scale; they do not all fit with spaces between them in the actual surface-to-surface gap at the average distance, though they can fit near lunar apogee depending on diameter definitions.
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What the pattern means: The reaction here is pure disbelief rather than analysis, with one commenter incredulous that the planets could fit end to end with room to spare given how physically close the Moon feels in the sky.

What commenters described: Still blows my mind every planet in the solar system can fit inbetween the earth and moon, side by side, but we think of the moon as pretty close to earth.

Chess's game-tree complexity is often estimated near 10^120, larger than estimates near 10^80 atoms in the observable universe
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What the pattern means: Two nearly identical posts state the same comparison without elaboration, treating chess's combinatorial explosion versus the atom count of the observable universe as self-explanatory rather than something worth breaking into actual orders of magnitude.

What commenters described: There are more possible chess games than atoms in the observable universe.

Electrons in atoms do not orbit nuclei along planet-like trajectories: quantum mechanics describes spatial probability distributions and discrete states, so the visual resemblance to a solar system is an obsolete analogy.
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What the pattern means: One reply corrects the planetary-model intuition directly, explaining that electrons don't hold fixed orbits at all but exist as probability clouds that require expensive equipment just to narrow down, while another comment riffs on the same visual similarity as a possible fractal coincidence rather than a physical link.

What commenters described: The electrons aren't in fixed orbits and act more like waves moving around the nucleus. We only know the areas they could probably be in.

Limit: The atom-as-solar-system picture is called out as an oversimplified teaching aid, not an accurate description of how electrons actually behave.

The Great Attractor is a region of concentrated matter and converging peculiar-velocity flow, not evidence for an exotic single object.
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What the pattern means: A commenter tries to lower the temperature on the mystery, arguing the Great Attractor is most likely just an especially dense concentration of ordinary galaxies and dark matter that happens to be hard to map, not a new category of object.

What commenters described: It's probably just a lot of concentrated galaxies and dark matter.

The roughly 600–700 km/s figure is peculiar velocity relative to cosmic expansion, not a forecast that the Milky Way will collide with the attractor.
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What the pattern means: The same commenter untangles what the 700 km/s figure actually measures, clarifying it's a deviation in the Milky Way's motion rather than a closing speed, since cosmic expansion means we're still net receding from the Great Attractor by a much larger margin.

Limit: We aren't really moving towards it at 700km/s; due to the expansion of the Universe we are in fact still moving away from it and will not collide with it anytime in the future.

Laniakea contains on the order of 100,000 galaxies whose peculiar-flow lines define a basin of attraction.
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What the pattern means: A commenter emphasizes scale over speed, arguing 700 km/s only sounds unremarkable until you remember it's acting on roughly 100,000 whole galaxies at once rather than a single star or planet.

What commenters described: About 100,000 galaxies in its cosmic neighborhood are all being pulled in towards it.

Objects necessarily accelerate faster toward the Great Attractor as they get closer.
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What the pattern means: The same commenter adds a physics distinction easy to miss in casual framing: the pull isn't a fixed velocity but an acceleration, so the closer any object gets, the faster it should move toward whatever is generating it.

What commenters described: It isn't just a velocity, it's an acceleration, so we move towards it faster the closer we get to whatever it is.

Earth rotates and orbits the Sun, the Solar System orbits within the Milky Way, and the Milky Way itself has motion relative to other structures and the cosmic microwave background.
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What the pattern means: A commenter stacks the layers of motion on top of each other in real time as a kind of mounting vertigo: spin, orbit, solar system drift, galactic rotation, each one compounding the last until they admit their brain simply refuses to hold it all at once.

What commenters described: Our entire solar system is in motion. And then our entire galaxy is moving... my brain simply cannot process that and freaks me out if I think about it too long.

Earth orbits the Sun at roughly 30 km/s.
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What the pattern means: A commenter puts Earth's own orbital speed into the same table as the Great Attractor's 700 km/s, showing our planet circles the Sun at a comparatively modest 20-30 km/s.

What commenters described: The earth is orbiting the sun at something like 20-30km/s.

The Sun orbits the Milky Way at roughly 220–230 km/s.
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What the pattern means: The same comparison chain includes the Sun's own circuit around the galactic center, giving a middle rung between Earth's orbital speed and the Great Attractor's pull.

What commenters described: The sun is orbiting the Milky Way at 230Km/s.

Light takes about 8 minutes 20 seconds to travel from the Sun to Earth.
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What the pattern means: A commenter uses the light-speed baseline to cut the earlier 700 km/s figure down to size, noting that even at roughly 300,000 km/s it still takes light eight minutes just to cross from the Sun to Earth.

What commenters described: Even at the speed of light it takes 8 minutes just to cross the distance from the earth to the sun.

The nearest star system is about 4.24 light-years away.
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What the pattern means: The same commenter extends that light-speed yardstick outward, landing on four years to reach the nearest star system and concluding that, cosmically, we're 'basically standing still' no matter how fast 700 km/s sounds locally.

What commenters described: 700 is basically nothing in terms of actually getting anywhere... cosmically we are basically standing still.

In standard cosmology, metric expansion means distances in spacetime increase; it does not require the universe to expand into an external pre-existing space.
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What the pattern means: A short, blunt correction cuts through the 'expanding into what' confusion by insisting the stretching happens within spacetime itself rather than into any surrounding space.

What commenters described: It's not expanding into anything, it's expanding within. Space time itself is stretching.

Cassini-based pollution measurements support a young exposure age for Saturn’s rings on the order of 100–400 million years.
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What the pattern means: A commenter walks back the confident 'young rings' framing, noting that while Saturn's rings look too clean to be as old as the planet, a newer self-cleaning model backed by flyby data now challenges that assumption without having overturned it yet.

Limit: The rings being young is still the predominant theory, but it's at least not as certain as it once seemed.

Returning to one’s start by traveling straight ahead is possible in some closed spatial topologies, but the topology of the actual universe is not established by the balloon analogy.
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What the pattern means: A commenter extends the balloon-surface picture to its logical extreme, suggesting that traveling in a straight line fast enough could loop you back to your starting point, the way any point on a sphere eventually returns to itself.

What commenters described: If you travel in a straight line fast enough, you can end up right where you started.

Limit: This assumes a closed, sphere-like topology for the universe, which the balloon analogy illustrates but doesn't actually establish as true.

The Planck constant is a genuine physical constant and its numerical value is fixed exactly in the modern SI; saying it is “not a constant” is incorrect.
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What the pattern means: A commenter treats unresolved physics as a temporary gap in tools rather than a permanent wall, comparing today's uncertainty around black holes and quantum constants to how incomplete Newtonian mechanics looked before relativity filled it in.

What commenters described: Our current theories and math say different, but that's because that's how far we've come in understanding the universe. Not because we already hold universal truths.

The Sun takes about 230 million years to orbit the Milky Way, so half an orbit is roughly 115 million years; the reply’s 125-million-year scale is reasonable.
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What the pattern means: A commenter offers an oddly comforting timeline for a rotating galaxy, framing 125 million years from now as the moment we'll finally be positioned to see the far side of the Milky Way properly.

What commenters described: In about 125 million years we'll be on the other side of the galaxy and can get a better look.

Gamma-ray bursts are linked primarily to collapses of massive stars and mergers of compact objects such as neutron stars; ordinary novae are not a principal GRB source.
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What the pattern means: A commenter is matter-of-fact about gamma-ray bursts, naming novae and supernovae as the known likely sources while conceding that even knowing the cause wouldn't give us any way to intervene if one actually went off.

Limit: Even if one were to pop, there is nothing we could do about it.

The study supports dilution of age-elevated plasma factors as a possible mechanism, but it did not establish that ineffective old kidneys or nonspecific “cruft” removal explains the effects.
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What the pattern means: The same rat-blood comment is offered as an inference rather than a settled result, explicitly framed as the commenter's own guess about what's actually driving the effect rather than something the cited experiments proved outright.

Limit: This is presented as personal inference stitched together from two rat studies, not a conclusion either study actually tested or confirmed.

The geometric mean between a Planck-length scale and the observable-universe diameter is on the order of 10^-4 metres, broadly comparable to a large cell, but calling this the “median size of things that exist” is mathematically arbitrary and not a measured distribution.
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What the pattern means: A commenter builds a full-universe ruler from Planck length to the observable universe's diameter and places the mathematical middle right around the size of a human skin cell, using it to argue that people sit well above, not near, the size distribution's midpoint.

What commenters described: The median size on that scale is about the size of a human skin cell. When it comes to Things That Exist, you're actually significantly larger than the universal median size!

Limit: This 'median' is just the geometric midpoint of a size scale, not a measured distribution of how large things in the universe actually tend to be.

Causality constrains physical influence, but it does not require an observer to recognize a visible cause before observing an effect; detectability depends on what signals were emitted and whether astronomers were monitoring the source.
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What the pattern means: A commenter frames pre-supernova stellar swelling as a genuine causality safeguard, arguing the light showing a star bloating up necessarily reaches us before any gamma-ray burst it eventually produces.

What commenters described: We would see the star swelling up for millions of years... the principle of causality requires us to observe the cause prior to the effect.

Light emitted before a gamma-ray burst reaches Earth before the burst photons, but that does not guarantee millions of years of recognizable stellar swelling or actionable warning; long GRBs are associated with massive-star collapse, while other GRBs can arise from mergers.
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What the pattern means: The same swelling-star comment doubles here as a claim about detectability, that we'd have a long observational lead time on a coming gamma-ray burst simply because the precursor light physically has to arrive first.

Limit: The claimed 'millions of years' of warning depends on the star's pre-collapse swelling actually being visible and monitored, which won't hold for every kind of gamma-ray burst progenitor.

Named stars forming traditional constellations are overwhelmingly Milky Way stars, while galaxies can lie within the same sky boundaries and some were historically catalogued as nebulous objects
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What the pattern means: A short, understated post flags a category error baked into stargazing tradition itself, that some points long treated as individual stars in named constellations are actually entire separate galaxies.

What commenters described: Some 'stars' recognized in constellations are actually galaxies.

We see stars as they were when their light left, so some may since have changed or died, but most naked-eye stars are close enough and long-lived enough that 'a lot are already gone' is unsupported
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What the pattern means: The original poster leans fully into the idea that the night sky is full of already-dead stars we're only now seeing as ghosts of light, framing every visible star as something that has 'only ever existed' to us as traveling photons.

What commenters described: To us, they've only ever existed as traveling light.

The cosmic microwave background is observed across the sky and formed when the universe became transparent about 380,000 years after the Big Bang; it is a distant last-scattering surface in every direction, not an echo located at a physical outer edge with more of the same light “everywhere in between.”
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What the pattern means: A commenter treats the cosmic microwave background as proof against a localized Big Bang, describing its echo as visible in every direction at once and using that uniformity to argue there's no center the universe could ever return to.

What commenters described: We see the echoes of it at the furthest edges of the universe and everywhere in between, because that's where the Big Bang occurred: literally everywhere.

On a logarithmic length scale, a roughly metre-scale human is closer to the observable-universe diameter (about 10^27 m) than to the Planck length (about 10^-35 m).
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What the pattern means: A commenter states the size-scale comparison as flatly as possible, that a person's height sits closer on a logarithmic ruler to the width of the observable universe than to the Planck length.

What commenters described: Human's height is closer to the diameter of the visible universe than the Planck length.

The balloon’s inside and outside are features of its illustrative embedding, not evidence that physical space is surrounded by a real fourth spatial dimension; intrinsic cosmological geometry needs no such exterior.
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What the pattern means: A commenter tries to pin down exactly which part of the balloon analogy is supposed to represent the universe, arguing the confusion comes from mentally sliding between the 3D surface and the 4D space the balloon sits in, which most people were never asked to visualize in the first place.

What commenters described: If space is 'like' a balloon, it is like the parts of the balloon, not the space inside or outside it.

Backward-time-travel scenarios cannot use an absolute “same place in space,” because spatial position and simultaneity depend on reference frame; Earth’s motion alone does not prove reappearance in vacuum.
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What the pattern means: A commenter dismisses backward time travel with a single practical objection, that Earth itself is never in the same spot in space from one second to the next, so 'returning' to an earlier moment can't mean simply rewinding a clock in place.

What commenters described: Every second [we move] hundreds of thousands miles away.

The observable universe has a horizon, not a known physical edge where the laws of physics break; regions beyond the horizon are unobservable because their signals have not reached us.
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What the pattern means: A commenter draws a direct parallel between two edges we can't see past, arguing that the boundary of the observable universe and the moment before the Big Bang both break down the very concepts of time and distance rather than just being hard to observe.

Limit: The claim treats the observable horizon as a place where physics itself stops, when it's really the limit of what light has had time to reach us from, not a physical wall.

A trillion U.S. dollar bills would span hundreds—not about ten—Earth–Moon distances whether arranged by length or stacked by typical thickness; the numerical claim is false.
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What the pattern means: Tucked inside a longer post about planetary spacing is a specific dollar-bill comparison meant to make the Earth-Moon gap tangible: a trillion stacked bills reportedly covering that distance about ten times over.

What commenters described: One trillion one dollar bills stacked end to end will make that trip between the Earth and the Moon about 10 times.

A two-degree full-angle cone is about 3.5 light-years wide at 100 light-years, but geometric width alone does not explain why jet edges are hard to infer; astronomers estimate opening angles from afterglow behavior and viewing geometry.
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What the pattern means: A commenter works the geometry of a gamma-ray burst's narrow beam in the opposite direction from most doom scenarios, calculating that even a tight 2-degree cone would already span 3.5 light-years by just 100 light-years out, which is part of why pinning down a burst's true edges is so hard.

Limit: We don't actually know the precise angular spread; the 2-degree figure is a narrow-end estimate, and detecting a jet's true edges at interstellar distances is acknowledged to be genuinely difficult.

Gaia DR3 catalogs about 1.81 billion astronomical sources, supporting the statement that humanity tracks sources in the billions; this does not mean all are continuously monitored for gamma-ray-burst precursors.
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What the pattern means: A commenter answers a worry about missed cosmic threats with sheer scale, noting reassuringly that astronomers already track stars by the billions.

What commenters described: Thankfully we do track a LOT of stars. In the billions, actually!

Gamma-ray bursts are jetted, but inferred opening angles vary and are difficult to measure; a universal two-degree beam is not established.
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What the pattern means: The same detailed GRB comment doubles as a corrective on jet geometry, walking through why a universal, precisely measured beam angle isn't something astronomers can simply state with confidence given how narrow and distant these jets are.

Limit: On the narrow end GRBs are estimated to create a beam with a 2-degree angular spread, but the commenter stresses 'we don't actually know' because detecting the true edges of such a narrow, distant beam is inherently difficult.

General relativity models space and time together as spacetime, but saying time categorically cannot exist without “the universe” goes beyond established evidence; whether time began with the hot Big Bang or an earlier phase is unresolved.
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What the pattern means: A commenter states flatly that time cannot exist without the universe, treating spacetime as a package deal where removing one erases the other entirely.

What commenters described: No universe, no spacetime, no time.

Limit: This treats an open scientific question, whether time began at the hot Big Bang or during some earlier phase, as settled, when it isn't.

Large-scale coherent peculiar motions of galaxies are reconstructed as gravitational flows; turbulence in intracluster gas is not the standard explanation for the bulk motion of galaxies.
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What the pattern means: A commenter rules out turbulence as the explanation for large-scale galaxy motion on timescale grounds alone, arguing intracluster gas simply doesn't have long enough to churn galaxies around before gravity dominates the outcome.

What commenters described: The timescales for the growth and motion of galaxy clusters don't allow for effects like turbulence to contribute to the bulk movement of galaxies.

The average Earth–Moon distance is about 384,400 km; whether all planetary diameters “fit” depends on which planets, diameters, and lunar distance are used, so “with lots of breathing room plus Pluto” is overstated.
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What the pattern means: The same planet-spacing comment gets cited here for its precise inventory, all eight planets plus Pluto lined up with room left over between Earth and the Moon, though the poster never specifies which diameter or distance convention makes that math work.

Limit: The claim of 'a lot of breathing room' depends heavily on which planetary diameters and which Earth-Moon distance are used, details the original comment never pins down.

The main asteroid belt is extremely sparse compared with movie depictions; NASA estimates typical spacing on the order of several Earth–Moon distances in a simplified distribution.
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What the pattern means: The same commenter debunks the crowded, Hollywood-style asteroid belt in passing, noting that real asteroids typically sit hundreds of thousands of miles apart, making a chance collision essentially a non-issue for any spacecraft passing through.

What commenters described: You'll likely have a very difficult time trying to find one asteroid within 100,000 miles of another (most are on average about 600,000 miles or more away from the nearest asteroid).

Diamond formation and precipitation inside Uranus- or Neptune-like planets is supported by high-pressure experiments and models, but diamond rain has not been directly observed on an exoplanet
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What the pattern means: A commenter reacts to diamond rain with pure whimsy, joking about flying a spaceship past Uranus or Neptune with a net to go 'shopping' rather than treating it as a settled observational fact.

Limit: The phenomenon is modeled and supported by high-pressure lab experiments, but no probe has actually observed diamond rain falling inside either ice giant.

Large old lobsters can die during molting, but starvation or suffocation from an inevitable energy deficit is not a complete universal life-cycle rule.
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What the pattern means: A commenter qualifies the 'biologically immortal' lobster claim with the actual mechanism of death, that large old lobsters eventually can't out-eat the energy cost of molting or hunting and so starve or suffocate instead of aging.

What commenters described: They eventually either starve to death or suffocate to death [once molting or hunting can no longer keep up with energy needs].

No experiment has established that space is discrete at the Planck length; however, claiming that space is known to remain continuous far below that scale also goes beyond present evidence.
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What the pattern means: A commenter pushes back on treating the Planck length as a hard pixel size for space, insisting there's no actual evidence that space becomes discrete or grainy at that scale.

Limit: The reply corrects one overreach but doesn't establish the opposite either: whether space stays continuous below the Planck length is likewise unconfirmed.

A Milky Way–Andromeda merger is no longer considered certain; current modeling gives roughly even odds of no merger within 10 billion years.
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What the pattern means: A commenter lays out a full future timeline where the Andromeda merger happens on a comprehensible scale while the Great Attractor never gets 'reached' at all, since cosmic expansion outpaces our approach toward it long before 64 billion years pass.

What commenters described: Our Galaxy will cross paths / pass through / merge with Andromeda long before we even come close to approaching the Great Attractor.

Accelerated expansion will eventually make most galaxies unobservable from our region, but a gravitationally bound merged Local Group will retain stars and evidence for a long time
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What the pattern means: The original poster describes accelerating expansion as a slow-motion isolation event, where distant light simply stops being able to catch up to us and, eventually, even the evidence that a wider visible universe ever existed disappears from view.

What commenters described: One day there won't even be visible stars in the sky because everything's expanding away from each other.

Accelerating expansion can eventually isolate unbound supercluster-scale structures, but saying expansion simply prevents arrival at the Great Attractor overstates a non-constant, non-destination flow.
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What the pattern means: The same Andromeda-timeline comment reframes the Great Attractor less as a destination and more as a moving target, since the universe's expansion rate means our approach toward it never actually closes the distance.

Limit: The commenter is explicit that arriving isn't really the right way to think about it: 'not that it's a destination to arrive at.'

Dividing an approximate Great-Attractor distance by 700 km/s gives a rough timescale near 60–70 billion years, but Laniakea is a flow basin rather than a fixed destination and constant straight-line speed is not a physical forecast.
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What the pattern means: The same comment supplies a back-of-envelope timescale for reaching the Great Attractor at current speed, landing on roughly 64 billion years, more than four times the universe's current age, and then immediately undercuts its own number by noting we'd never actually get there.

Limit: This figure assumes a constant approach speed toward a fixed point, when the Great Attractor is really a flow basin and the approach itself is being outpaced by cosmic expansion.

On a tens-of-billions-of-years timescale the Sun would have completed its red-giant evolution and become a white dwarf.
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What the pattern means: The same long-range projection folds in the Sun's own fate almost as an aside, noting that on a tens-of-billions-of-years timescale it would have long since finished its red-giant phase and settled into a white dwarf.

What commenters described: Our Sun would also likely be a white dwarf at that point.

The idea that attempts to resolve sub-Planck distances would concentrate enough energy to form a black hole is a theoretical quantum-gravity heuristic, not an experimentally confirmed rule defining the smallest observable length.
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What the pattern means: A commenter reframes the Planck-length limit away from 'resolution' language entirely, describing it instead as simply the smallest length reachable by throwing the maximum possible photon energy at a target.

What commenters described: It's the smallest length that could be observed by chucking maximum energy photons at it.

Dust and stars in the Milky Way create a Zone of Avoidance in visible-light surveys, but radio, infrared, and X-ray observations can probe through parts of it, so “we cannot know” is too absolute.
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What the pattern means: A commenter states the Zone of Avoidance limitation in its strongest possible form, that the galactic disk simply blocks our view entirely, without acknowledging that other wavelengths can partly see through the same dust.

Limit: The claim that 'we can't know' overstates the case; radio, infrared, and X-ray surveys can probe portions of the same obscured region that visible light cannot.

Gravity is the standard driver of coherent large-scale galaxy peculiar velocities, but the claim that every non-gravitational cosmic phenomenon only moves outward is false.
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What the pattern means: A commenter builds a process-of-elimination argument for gravity as the Great Attractor's cause, noting that every other cosmic-scale phenomenon we know, supernovae, pulsars, quasars, only ever pushes energy outward, leaving gravity as the sole known inward-acting force.

What commenters described: The only thing (that we know of) that goes inward on a cosmic scale is gravity, and the only thing (that we know of) that causes gravity is mass.

Modern cosmology robustly describes an early hot, dense universe, but scientists do not yet know what preceded inflation or whether “before” is physically meaningful; science has not established that the universe simply always existed.
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What the pattern means: A commenter admits to a genuine cognitive wall here, struggling equally with space expanding into nothing and with the idea that whatever underlies the universe simply never had a starting point at all.

What commenters described: My silly monkey brain refuses to believe something can have no 'start date.'

Peculiar velocities are inferred by comparing observed galaxy motions or redshifts with the expected Hubble flow using independent distance information; “comparing redshift with the CMB” is incomplete wording.
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What the pattern means: A commenter lays out competing candidate explanations for the Great Attractor with real skepticism about the mass estimate itself, noting one project's figure came in at roughly a tenth of earlier numbers once a known statistical bias was accounted for.

Limit: The apparent mass isn't exactly agreed upon; some estimates put it at 1/10th of previous figures and attribute the difference to Malmquist bias.

Saying only mass causes gravity is an oversimplification of general relativity; matter and energy contribute to spacetime curvature.
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What the pattern means: The same elimination-style argument about inward versus outward cosmic phenomena treats mass as gravity's sole known source, glossing over general relativity's broader point that energy itself also curves spacetime.

Limit: Framing mass as the only known cause of gravity simplifies general relativity, where energy and momentum also contribute to spacetime curvature, not mass alone.

Speculation about three orbiting black holes or an unknown dark-matter structure is unsupported; ordinary large-scale matter distributions explain the reconstructed flow without those inventions.
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What the pattern means: A commenter runs through the exotic possibilities almost to talk themselves out of them, floating three orbiting black holes or an undiscovered dark-matter structure before conceding the far more boring explanation, an ordinary galactic filament or supercluster core, fits the data just as well.

What commenters described: Either way there's something absolutely massive out there and it's probably a collection of galaxies.

The balloon-surface analogy illustrates distances increasing without a center on the surface, but its radial direction and surrounding three-dimensional space are not parts of the cosmological model and should not be mapped literally onto the universe.
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What the pattern means: A commenter pictures a bacterium living on an inflating balloon's skin as the universe analogy, then immediately flags the analogy's own escape hatch: a bacterium with a flagellum could, in principle, crawl around the balloon's curvature.

Limit: The commenter warns against putting too much faith in the analogy, since the bacterium's ability to move around the surface breaks the comparison it's meant to illustrate.

The Great Attractor lies behind the Milky Way’s Zone of Avoidance and the larger reconstructed flow includes contributions associated with the Norma region and more distant structures such as Shapley.
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What the pattern means: A detailed reply locates the Great Attractor squarely behind the Milky Way's obscuring dust, describing it as one part of a larger reconstructed flow that reaches past Norma toward the even more distant Shapley concentration.

What commenters described: There is something called the Shapely attractor that lies beyond the Great Attractor and is still pulling us.

The invariant speed c limits local causal signals and massive objects, but a game tick-rate analogy is incomplete and hypothetical tachyons have never been observed
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What the pattern means: The original poster reaches for a video-game metaphor to explain why nothing outruns light, comparing c to a fixed engine tick rate that no amount of computational power could ever push past without breaking causality itself.

What commenters described: The speed of light, that's the tick rate of the universe. It is impossible to exceed, despite everything in sci-fi.

Limit: The tick-rate framing is offered as an intuitive stand-in, not a precise physical mechanism, and doesn't address hypothetical particles like tachyons that no experiment has ever actually detected.

The reply’s specific one-tenth CIZA/Malmquist-bias mass claim is too source-specific to promote without identifying the cited analysis.
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What the pattern means: The same long Great Attractor explainer supplies a specific but unsourced number, a mass estimate revised down to roughly a tenth of earlier figures, without naming the paper or team behind the correction.

Limit: The one-tenth figure is attributed only vaguely to 'the CIZA project' without a citable source, so it reads as secondhand recollection rather than a verifiable number.

Calling it a single gravitational center of a bound supercluster is an oversimplification: Laniakea is defined kinematically as a basin of attraction and is not a single compact object.
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What the pattern means: A commenter deliberately deflates the mystique around the name, quoting the very first line of the Wikipedia entry to argue the Great Attractor is just standard terminology for a supercluster's gravitational center, nothing more.

What commenters described: There is absolutely nothing spooky going on as far as we know.

Claims that stars outnumber Earth's sand grains by exactly 30,000 to one are order-of-magnitude analogies, not measured facts, and they do not by themselves determine whether extraterrestrial life exists
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What the pattern means: The original poster uses a specific 30,000-to-one ratio as a rhetorical challenge to anyone doubting extraterrestrial life, treating the sheer star count as an argument in itself rather than citing where the figure comes from.

Limit: The comment gives no source for the exact 30,000x multiplier, and star-versus-sand-grain comparisons are typically rough order-of-magnitude estimates rather than precise counts.

Georges Lemaître was a Catholic priest and a founder of expanding-universe and primeval-atom cosmology, but he treated scientific cosmology and religion as distinct domains; attributing his physical model to God as a scientific “primary motor” is misleading.
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What the pattern means: A commenter wrestles openly with reconciling Georges Lemaitre's dual identity as priest and Big Bang originator, landing on agnosticism because neither 'the universe always existed' nor 'something made it happen' feels resolvable, and finding that uncertainty itself unsettling.

What commenters described: I love how quantum physics had truly showed us humans how little we know, and that is kind of terrifying too.

Local spatial flatness does not by itself guarantee infinite extent or that straight travel can never return to its start, because global topology is a separate question.
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What the pattern means: A commenter cites a specific 2018 result to settle a debate about looping back to your starting point, noting Planck's mission data concluded the universe is flat, meaning a tabletop-like geometry rather than a closed, curved one.

What commenters described: The final results of the Plank mission in 2018 concluded that our universe is flat.

Planck observations strongly constrain curvature and are consistent with a spatially flat universe, but they did not prove exact flatness.
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What the pattern means: The same Planck-mission comment gets cited again here, this time for what it implies about travel rather than shape: heading out on a flat universe means never looping back without deliberately turning around.

Limit: Planck's results are consistent with flatness within measurement uncertainty, which is a narrower claim than saying flatness has been proven exactly.

Standard Big Bang cosmology describes expansion occurring everywhere without a central point in space, so a model of several widely separated explosion centers is not equivalent to the observed expansion.
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What the pattern means: A commenter takes the balloon-bacterium picture and pushes it further than intended, wondering whether our universe could be just one of several separate expansion centers scattered across an unmeasurable larger space.

Limit: The commenter admits there's no way to prove or disprove this, since anything past the observable horizon is by definition outside what we can measure.

The Great Attractor is a name for the convergence region in reconstructed peculiar-velocity flows caused by the surrounding matter distribution, including dark matter; no exotic force is required by current evidence.
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What the pattern means: The same Wikipedia-quoting commenter treats dark matter as part of the mundane answer rather than a wildcard, folding it into the ordinary mass distribution that current evidence says is doing all the pulling.

What commenters described: The great attractor is just a name for the gravitational center of a large structure of galaxy clusters.

The observable universe is limited by which signals have had time to reach us, and some regions may remain beyond our horizon; that does not provide evidence for multiple separate centers where matter expanded.
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What the pattern means: The multiple-expansion-centers speculation gets grounded here in a plainer fact: the observable universe's edge is just a limit on what light has reached us, not proof there's nothing, or something specific, beyond it.

Limit: There's no way to prove or disprove the multiple-origin-points idea, since we can't see or measure anything beyond our observable horizon.

A homogeneous expanding universe has no preferred central galaxy, so observers in widely separated comoving galaxies infer the same large-scale expansion law rather than each occupying a physical center.
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What the pattern means: A commenter leans on sheer statistical weight to make the point stick, arguing that seeing billions of objects all receding in the same distance-correlated pattern, and each other, rules out coincidence and leaves 'no unique center' as the only sane reading.

What commenters described: We can pick anything as the centre, our stationary object, and it's exactly the same from their point of view.

Accelerated expansion creates a cosmological event horizon, and many presently observable galaxies will eventually redshift beyond practical detectability; this is distinct from saying the observable universe’s particle horizon simply starts shrinking.
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What the pattern means: A commenter lays out, with real numbers, how accelerating expansion will eventually shrink our visible universe rather than grow it, estimating a hard ceiling only about 25 percent larger than today's observable radius no matter how long anyone waits.

What commenters described: No matter how long you wait, most of the universe will stay hidden forever.

Limit: The comment flags its own uncertainty around curvature, noting current instruments can't rule out an extremely slight curvature that would still allow an effectively unbounded universe.

Andromeda is about 2.5 million light-years away and contains hundreds of billions of stars, so “billions” understates its population.
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What the pattern means: A parent recounts a quiet moment under dark skies explaining to their kids that every star visible by eye belongs to our own galaxy, and that Andromeda, the one genuinely external object they could spot, is itself packed with billions more.

What commenters described: That tiny smudge has itself billions of stars. And beyond that? So. Much. More.

Limit: The comment undersells Andromeda's actual population by calling it merely 'billions' of stars, when estimates put it in the hundreds of billions.

Andromeda is not uniquely the most distant persistent object visible to keen-eyed observers or binocular users: the Triangulum Galaxy is about 3 million light-years away and can be seen under exceptionally dark skies, especially with binoculars.
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What the pattern means: The same stargazing story treats Andromeda as the single farthest thing reachable by eye or binoculars, when in practice the fainter Triangulum Galaxy sits even farther out and is likewise reachable under sufficiently dark skies.

Limit: Andromeda isn't uniquely the limit of naked-eye or binocular visibility; Triangulum, roughly half a million light-years farther, is also visible under excellent conditions.

Dark energy is the name for the unknown cause of the observed late-time acceleration of expansion, not an explanation for why cosmic expansion exists at all.
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What the pattern means: A commenter is careful to separate observation from explanation, stacking up the billions-of-objects recession evidence first and only then admitting the underlying cause is simply given a placeholder name.

Limit: Why spacetime is doing that, we don't know, but we call it 'dark energy' -- a label for the mystery, not a mechanism that resolves it.

Galaxies form a cosmic web of filaments, clusters, superclusters, walls, and enormous underdense voids across hundreds of millions of light-years
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What the pattern means: The original poster gestures at the largest known cosmic architecture in a single breath, naming superclusters and voids as 'strange structural anomalies' without unpacking their filament-and-wall geometry any further.

Limit: The post names these structures but doesn't describe their actual scale or shape, leaving the 'incomprehensible' framing to do all the work.

Hubble–Lemaître expansion is a large-scale statistical relation between distance and recession, not a rule that literally every unbound object must recede: local peculiar velocities can produce departures, including blueshifts.
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What the pattern means: The same billions-of-objects recession comment gets read here as a near-universal rule, when in practice it's really a strong statistical trend that still allows individual gravitationally bound systems to buck it, Andromeda among them.

Limit: The claim that literally every unbound object only ever recedes overstates a statistical relationship; it's the general trend, not an exceptionless law.

Individual stars visible to the unaided eye are overwhelmingly nearby members of the Milky Way; Andromeda appears as the blended light of a galaxy rather than resolved naked-eye stars.
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What the pattern means: The same desert stargazing account doubles as a clean illustration of naked-eye limits, noting that Andromeda doesn't resolve into individual stars at all but shows up only as a soft, unified smudge of blended light.

What commenters described: Andromeda, the furthest thing from earth that we can look up and see, is just one more galaxy... a tiny smudge.

Measurements are consistent with spatial flatness within uncertainty, but they do not prove exact flatness or establish the universe’s global topology and total size; the quoted 20-trillion-light-year minimum is not supported by the cited comment.
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What the pattern means: The same cosmological-horizon comment gets cited for a specific hedge rather than its headline number: current measurements are consistent with flatness but can't rule out a slight curvature hiding in the margin of error.

Limit: The commenter's own '20 trillion light-years' minimum size is explicitly conditional on an unconfirmed tiny curvature existing at all, not a settled figure.

The observable universe is about 46.5 billion light-years in radius, not diameter, despite the universe being about 13.8 billion years old.
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What the pattern means: The same detailed reply supplies the actual measured scale of what we can see, putting the observable universe at roughly 46 billion light-years across even though the universe itself is only 13.8 billion years old.

Limit: The comment states this as a diameter, though the commonly cited figure of about 46.5 billion light-years is more precisely a radius, not the full width.

The river-and-fish analogy can illustrate competing expansion and peculiar velocity, but space is not a material river and the analogy does not establish that this specific flow can never arrive upstream.
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What the pattern means: A commenter's fish-in-a-river image does real explanatory work here, casting the Great Attractor's pull as a losing swim against a current that's accelerating rather than steady.

Limit: Space isn't literally a flowing medium the way a river is, so the analogy explains the outcome, being outpaced, without describing the actual physical mechanism of expansion.

Wood may be rare beyond Earth because it is a biological composite, but there is no census showing it is one of the universe's rarest materials
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What the pattern means: The original poster states wood's rarity as settled fact in a single line, offering no supporting reasoning for why a biological composite material should be considered rare on a universal scale.

Limit: No evidence or survey is cited; the claim rests entirely on the intuitive rarity of life itself, which isn't the same as a measured rarity ranking for materials.

A sufficiently large statistically uniform universe could contain repeated arrangements, but an exact duplicate solar system is not guaranteed merely because the universe extends beyond the observable horizon.
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What the pattern means: A commenter treats the edge of the observable universe as a genuine unknown rather than an actual boundary, speculating that a sufficiently vast universe could statistically contain another solar system arranged atom-for-atom like ours.

Limit: This is framed explicitly as a conditional possibility, 'IF universe is sufficiently large,' not a claim that such a duplicate is confirmed or even likely.

An infinite universe does not by itself guarantee exact duplicate Earths: repetition requires additional assumptions about a finite number of possible states and their statistical distribution, and cosmic expansion can prevent reaching distant regions.
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What the pattern means: A commenter pushes the duplicate-Earth idea into stronger territory, arguing that a genuinely infinite universe would have to run out of distinct atomic arrangements before it ran out of room, forcing 'mirror' versions of ourselves to exist somewhere.

Limit: This conclusion depends on assuming the universe is truly infinite and statistically uniform; it doesn't hold if space is finite or if expansion prevents ever reaching the regions where a repeat would occur.

Experiments show nocturnal dung beetles can use the Milky Way's brightness pattern to maintain a straight course
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What the pattern means: The original poster compresses a genuinely tested finding into a single line, that dung beetles orient themselves at night using the sky, without mentioning the specific experiments involved.

What commenters described: Dung beetles navigate using the stars.

Standard cosmology does not require a spatial “outside” north of, around, or beyond the universe; whether total space is finite or infinite is a separate geometry and topology question.
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What the pattern means: A commenter reaches for the North Pole to explain why 'outside the universe' is a category error rather than an unexplored place, arguing that 'outside' only means anything as a property of space itself.

What commenters described: What is 'north' of the North pole? There is no 'space' outside space.

Standard cosmology projects a long stelliferous era followed by remnants and black holes, but the ultimate timeline depends on proton stability, dark energy, and unknown physics
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What the pattern means: The original poster sits with a strange double feeling rather than presenting new facts, that existing during the universe's brief window when stars and life are possible makes them feel simultaneously singled out and utterly small.

What commenters described: I feel simultaneously incredibly significant that we exist in this tiny fraction of a heartbeat where life is possible, and incredibly insignificant that the time period where stars are possible is so small.

Sunlight reaches Earth in about 8 minutes 20 seconds, but sundials are not wrong: they track the Sun's delayed apparent position by design
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What the pattern means: The original poster treats the 8-minute light delay as a gotcha against sundials, but the joke misses that a sundial was never claiming to show the Sun's real-time position, only tracking where its light currently appears to be, which is exactly what the delay produces.

Limit: The 'therefore sundials are wrong' conclusion doesn't follow: sundials work by design off the Sun's apparent position, delay included.

The observable universe is a horizon set by which signals have reached us, not a physical edge; the universe beyond it may be much larger, but its full size is not presently measured.
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What the pattern means: A commenter treats the observable universe's edge as a visibility limit rather than a true boundary, speculating it could hide anything from nothing at all to a universe billions of times larger than what we can currently see.

What commenters described: The edge of our universe is just what we are currently physically able to see. We have no idea what's beyond that edge.

The Planck length is a derived natural scale used in quantum-gravity reasoning, not empirical evidence that reality has a fixed pixel-like resolution or that the universe is a simulation.
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What the pattern means: A commenter treats the double-slit experiment and a supposed 'resolution' to reality as mutually reinforcing evidence for simulation theory, without distinguishing a mathematically derived scale from an actual measured pixel size.

Limit: Calling the Planck length a 'resolution' conflates a theoretical unit used in quantum-gravity math with empirical proof that reality is rendered or discretized.

The Sun orbits the Milky Way’s galactic center about once every 230 million years, carrying the solar system with it; saying it orbits Sagittarius A* is shorthand because the orbit responds to the Galaxy’s distributed mass, not only the central black hole.
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What the pattern means: Pressed for more precision, a commenter clarifies that 'the Sun orbits Sagittarius A*' is really shorthand for the whole galactic year concept, and points elsewhere rather than re-explaining the underlying physics themselves.

What commenters described: The galactic year, also known as a cosmic year, is the duration of time required for the Sun to orbit once around the center of the Milky Way Galaxy.

The universe is not modeled as a material ball growing into a surrounding void; cosmic expansion describes increasing large-scale distances between comoving galaxies.
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What the pattern means: A commenter swats away a common misreading of cosmic expansion directly, insisting the universe isn't a growing sphere pushing into surrounding empty space, just galaxies drifting apart from each other.

What commenters described: Its expanding as in galaxies are drifting further and further away from each other.

A 2026 preprint using new redshift and peculiar-velocity data identifies a much larger “Vela-Banzi” mass concentration with substantial gravitational influence, but it should not be treated as the single settled explanation for the Great Attractor.
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What the pattern means: A commenter cites a newly identified, unusually massive structure as a partial answer to the Great Attractor mystery, while explicitly cautioning that it's probably only one contributor among several rather than the whole story.

Limit: There is probably more than just this supercluster, so treating the new find as the single final answer would be overreaching.

A local cosmic underdensity is studied and debated, but it is not established that humanity sits at the edge of a larger void that cuts us off
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What the pattern means: The original poster escalates a real, still-debated cosmic underdensity into a claim of total isolation, describing Earth as sitting at the edge of a void within a void and effectively cut off from the rest of the universe.

Limit: Whether we actually sit at the edge of a larger void, versus simply inside one ordinary local underdensity, remains a live debate rather than an established fact.

A Vela supercluster crossing the Milky Way’s Zone of Avoidance was reported in 2016 and was estimated to contribute at least about 50 km/s to Local Group motion.
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What the pattern means: The same newly identified supercluster comment gets cited here for its concrete contribution, an estimated tens of kilometers per second added to our motion, situating it as a measurable but partial piece of the larger puzzle.

What commenters described: Part of this is apparently now thought to be some influence of the recently identified Vela-Banzi supercluster.

Astronomers have refined the Sun's position and the Milky Way's spiral structure, but we have not discovered that the Solar System lies on the opposite side of the galaxy from previous maps
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What the pattern means: The original poster treats a routine refinement of the Sun's galactic position as if it flipped our entire map upside down, framing updated spiral-arm data as proof the old 'You Are Here' diagrams had us on the wrong side of the galaxy entirely.

Limit: Refining where the Sun sits within the spiral structure is not the same claim as discovering we're on the galaxy's opposite side from earlier maps.

Edwin Hubble's 1923–24 Cepheid observations established that Andromeda lay beyond the Milky Way; this used standard-candle distances, not parallax of the galaxy
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What the pattern means: A commenter dates the moment the universe got bigger than the Milky Way to 1923, though the actual method credited, Cepheid variable stars used as standard candles, gets misremembered here as parallax.

Limit: Andromeda's distance was established using Cepheid standard-candle measurements, not stellar parallax, which doesn't work at galactic distances.

In an expanding cosmological metric, comoving objects can remain at fixed spatial coordinates while their proper separation grows; saying “nothing is moving” is acceptable only in that coordinate-specific sense, since galaxies also have local peculiar motions.
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What the pattern means: A commenter compresses cosmic expansion into a deliberately paradoxical-sounding line, that distances grow while nothing technically moves, a description that only really holds in the specific coordinate sense cosmologists intend.

What commenters described: Distances between things are getting bigger, but nothing is moving.

In the standard treatment a vacuum-decay bubble wall rapidly approaches the speed of light, while cosmic expansion can put sufficiently distant nucleation events beyond our causal horizon; saying it must occur relatively close is qualitatively reasonable but not a measured distance bound.
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What the pattern means: A commenter reassures against false-vacuum-decay anxiety with actual physics: even if a bubble of lower-energy vacuum formed somewhere, cosmic distances and accelerating expansion mean it would need to start almost right next door to ever reach us in any human timescale.

What commenters described: The odds of it reaching us in our lifetime is miniscule.

Laniakea is defined as a basin of galaxy velocity flows toward the Great Attractor region, not simply as galaxies orbiting or falling toward the geometric center of mass of one bound supercluster.
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What the pattern means: A commenter nests the whole hierarchy of attractors inside each other, explaining that our Local Group's center of gravity sits between the Milky Way and Andromeda, which is itself pulled toward the Great Attractor, which is in turn pulled toward the more distant Shapley concentration.

What commenters described: The 'Great Attractor', and all the supercluster group(s) that are attracted to it, are themselves being pulled towards The Shapley Attractor.

The black-hole information paradox asks how quantum information is preserved or recovered when black holes evaporate
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What the pattern means: The original poster reduces a genuinely open theoretical puzzle to a single blunt line, framing the fate of information falling into a black hole as simply unknown rather than describing why it's such a hard problem for physics.

What commenters described: No-one knows where the light in a black hole goes.

The claim that Earth lost more than half its biomass since the 1970s conflates different indicators; the Living Planet Index tracks average changes in monitored vertebrate populations, not total planetary biomass
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What the pattern means: A long, urgent post builds a case for planetary-scale biomass collapse almost entirely from fossil-fuel framing and moral argument, treating a specific 'more than half since the 1970s' figure as established without naming what was actually measured.

Limit: The claim blends distinct measurements, a tracked index of vertebrate population trends is not the same thing as total planetary biomass, so the 'more than half' figure doesn't mean what the post implies.

The estimate of only 400,000 stars within 10,000 light-years is far too low: Gaia catalogs 331,312 nearby objects within just 100 parsecs (326 light-years), so extrapolation to 10,000 light-years necessarily reaches vastly larger and spatially nonuniform populations.
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What the pattern means: A commenter offers a specific but likely understated star count, guessing around 400,000 stars within 10,000 light-years, a figure that undercounts once you consider how many objects Gaia alone catalogs in a much smaller nearby volume.

Limit: This estimate looks too low: Gaia catalogs well over 300,000 objects within just 326 light-years, meaning the true count out to 10,000 light-years would be vastly higher.

Thousands-of-kelvin figures are inferred transient bubble conditions and should not be described as the surrounding water simply becoming hotter than the Sun’s surface.
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What the pattern means: A commenter corrects a tempting but wrong physical picture, that a snapping shrimp's light comes from a genuinely superheated bubble, pointing instead to sonoluminescence, where the flash isn't actually thermal in origin at all.

What commenters described: If the light were of thermal origin, a temperature of the emitter over 5,000 K would be required... it is most likely a byproduct of the shock wave with no biological significance.

Astronomers used unexplained deviations in Uranus's modeled orbit to predict Neptune, which was observed near the calculated position in 1846
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What the pattern means: The original poster condenses a genuine piece of scientific history into a single clean line: unexplained wobbles in Uranus's orbit were used to calculate where an unseen planet must be, and Neptune turned up almost exactly there in 1846.

What commenters described: Some perturbations of the orbit of Uranus led to the discovery of Neptune.

Claims about a guaranteed Milky Way–Andromeda “Milkdromeda” merger and its exact 64-billion-year state are outdated and overconfident; current simulations leave close to a 50% chance of no merger within 10 billion years.
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What the pattern means: A commenter imagines a shortcut to checking on the Milky Way-Andromeda merger firsthand, but concludes that at our present technological pace it would take some 64 billion years to arrive, by which point the merged galaxy would already be a dim, exhausted 'red and dead' husk.

Limit: This treats the eventual merger and its 64-billion-year travel time as settled outcomes, when current simulations actually leave close to even odds of no merger occurring within the next 10 billion years.

Current modeling no longer makes a Milky Way–Andromeda collision certain; observational uncertainties leave roughly even odds of no merger within 10 billion years.
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What the pattern means: A commenter deliberately whipsaws between reassurance and dread, noting the Milky Way and Andromeda are billed as being on a collision course, but that galaxies are so empty inside that an actual physical crash between stars is nearly impossible.

What commenters described: There's so much open space in galaxies that it's virtually impossible for anything to physically collide.

Direct star–star collisions during a galaxy merger are unlikely because stars are widely separated, but a merger can still alter stellar orbits, gas, morphology, and star formation; the sky is not the only possible change.
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What the pattern means: The same collision comment undersells what a galaxy merger actually changes, treating the visible night sky as the only real consequence when orbits, gas clouds, and overall galactic shape would also be reshaped.

Limit: The comment implies the sky's star count is 'the only thing that's going to change,' when mergers also disrupt stellar orbits, gas distribution, and galactic structure well beyond what's visible from Earth.

In an expanding universe, sufficiently distant galaxies can have a recession rate greater than the speed of light under Hubble’s distance–recession relation; this is metric expansion, not local travel through space faster than light.
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What the pattern means: A commenter frames faster-than-light recession as a matter of perspective rather than a violation of relativity, noting we're already receding from the most distant galaxies faster than light thanks to the expansion of space itself.

What commenters described: Thanks to the expansion of space you are actually moving away from the farthest galaxies faster than the speed of light.

In standard cosmology, the universe is not modeled as expanding into pre-existing external room; the balloon surface illustrates increasing internal distances, while the balloon’s inside and outside are not parts of the cosmological analogy.
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What the pattern means: A commenter narrows the balloon analogy down to its one useful job, showing that painted dots on an inflating balloon's surface drift apart from each other without any of them moving toward or away from a particular direction, which is the point the analogy is meant to make.

What commenters described: As you fill the balloon with air, all of those dots get more and more distant from one another. They're not going into or away from any particular direction.

It is false that all of the universe expands faster than light: recession rate depends on separation, is small locally, and exceeds c only for sufficiently distant comoving regions.
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What the pattern means: A commenter overstates the faster-than-light expansion claim by applying it to the whole universe uniformly, when the effect actually scales with distance and only becomes significant for sufficiently remote regions.

Limit: It is not true that all of the universe expands faster than light; recession speed depends on separation and stays small for nearby regions.

Multiple observations support the hot Big Bang model, including cosmic expansion, the cosmic microwave background, and primordial-element abundances; what, if anything, caused the earliest describable state remains an open question rather than a forecastable certainty.
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What the pattern means: A commenter takes a long view of scientific progress, noting how recently the Big Bang itself went from unknown to established, while doubting that even a century of further progress will ever pin down what, if anything, caused it.

Limit: In my personal view I doubt we will ever be able to explain the origins of the universe, or whether that's even a question that makes sense scientifically.

Space is not intrinsically colorless; astronomy images may show natural, representative or assigned color depending on the instruments
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What the pattern means: The original poster walks back their own claim mid-sentence, starting with 'space is colorless' before conceding that the vivid nebula images most people picture are the product of deliberate, spectrograph-based color assignment rather than raw visual truth.

What commenters described: NASA colors the images using spectography... where they create a color from the prisms humans can process and associate colors to their respective element.

Standard cosmology traces the observable universe back to an early hot, dense state about 13.8 billion years ago, but whether time itself began there or whether “before” is physically meaningful remains unresolved; the comment is a philosophical interpretation rather than an established discovery.
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What the pattern means: A commenter questions the premise of even asking when the universe 'started,' arguing the word presupposes a universe already existing to do the starting in, which makes the question harder to phrase coherently than it first appears.

What commenters described: There is no such thing as starting unless the universe already exists.

The Great Attractor region is roughly hundreds of millions of light-years away, so even a light signal requires that many years in the Earth frame; travel at exactly light speed is impossible for a massive spacecraft.
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What the pattern means: A commenter briefly entertains a hypothetical trip to check the Great Attractor in person, noting that even at light speed the round-trip distance runs into the hundreds of millions of years, before conceding that at our actual technological pace the number balloons into the tens of billions.

Limit: This treats future light-speed travel as a live possibility for humanity, when no known propulsion approach gets a massive spacecraft anywhere near that speed.

The stronger claim that accelerated expansion guarantees the space to the Great Attractor grows faster than it can be crossed needs a cosmological trajectory calculation and should not be inferred from the 700 km/s peculiar velocity alone.
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What the pattern means: A commenter separates two claims that often get merged, that the Great Attractor only tugs a limited local patch of the universe rather than everything, and that expansion is winning the tug-of-war regardless.

Limit: The claim that expansion definitely outpaces our approach requires an actual trajectory calculation, not just the bare 700 km/s peculiar-velocity figure this comment leans on.

The Sun is expected to become a red giant and later a white dwarf; it is not massive enough to explode as a supernova.
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What the pattern means: The same collision-course comment casually drops in the Sun's own end game as an afterthought, treating its future explosion as a given rather than distinguishing a red-giant/white-dwarf fade from an actual supernova.

Limit: The Sun isn't massive enough to end as a supernova; the commenter's phrase 'going to explode' blurs that with the much gentler red-giant-to-white-dwarf process actually expected.

Cosmic expansion is a large-scale increase in distances with no central galaxy; it is not ordinary motion away from Earth through a fixed background.
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What the pattern means: A commenter reframes the 'galaxies flying away from us' intuition as a misdirection, insisting it's the space between points that grows everywhere at once, with nothing actually flying anywhere.

What commenters described: The other galaxies are not flying away from us, the space in between is growing.

Counts such as 100 billion stars in the Milky Way and hundreds of billions of galaxies are rough, model-dependent estimates
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What the pattern means: The original poster drops two huge round numbers back to back, a hundred billion stars per galaxy and a hundred billion galaxies, without flagging that both figures are model-based averages rather than precise counts.

Limit: Both '100 billion' figures are commonly cited rough estimates rather than exact, directly counted totals.

Expansion overcoming every gravitationally bound system would require a hypothetical Big Rip form of dark energy and is not the inevitable future predicted by current evidence.
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What the pattern means: The same expansion comment ends on an open question rather than a settled prediction, wondering aloud whether expansion could someday overpower gravity itself and pull apart even bound structures.

Limit: Expansion overwhelming every bound system describes only a hypothetical dark-energy scenario, not something current evidence predicts as the universe's actual fate.

Gravitationally bound systems such as galaxies and planetary systems do not simply stretch with the present cosmic expansion.
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What the pattern means: The same commenter draws the line current cosmology actually draws, that gravity-bound systems like galaxies hold their shape against expansion for now, leaving the growing gaps to appear only between unbound structures.

What commenters described: Only things held together by gravity are staying close by.

In a Big Rip model, bound systems could eventually be disrupted, but precise intervals between planetary unbinding and planetary destruction depend on the assumed dark-energy model and are not established by present observations.
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What the pattern means: A commenter takes accelerating expansion to its most dramatic possible endpoint, describing a scenario where planets get torn from orbit and then torn apart themselves within what they guess is mere seconds to minutes of each other.

Limit: The exact gap between a planet being pulled from orbit and being ripped apart depends entirely on which dark-energy model you assume, something current observations haven't pinned down.

JWST has found unexpectedly bright and rapidly developed early galaxies, refining galaxy-formation models, but follow-up work has not overturned Big Bang cosmology or shown galaxies older than the universe.
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What the pattern means: A commenter treats a real observational puzzle, unexpectedly mature-looking early galaxies, as proof that Big Bang cosmology itself is broken, rather than a sign that galaxy-formation models need updating.

Limit: Follow-up analysis has refined formation-rate models without overturning the Big Bang framework itself, so 'our understanding of the Big Bang is off' overstates what the anomaly actually shows.

Observations support accelerating cosmic expansion, but a future Big Rip is only a conditional scenario requiring dark energy to strengthen beyond a cosmological constant; it is not an inevitable forecast.
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What the pattern means: The same planet-ripping comment opens with a wink about nightmares before laying out its logic, framing an eventual Big Rip as something current acceleration evidence points toward rather than guarantees outright.

Limit: A Big Rip requires dark energy to actually strengthen over time beyond a simple cosmological constant, a scenario current data doesn't confirm is happening.

Relativity models events in four-dimensional spacetime with one time coordinate and three spatial coordinates, but time differs in metric signature and causal role from an ordinary fourth spatial direction.
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What the pattern means: A commenter defends treating time as simply the fourth dimension because it's intuitive, reasoning that if length, width, and height describe where something is, time must be the answer to when.

Limit: This glosses over the real mathematical difference between time and the three spatial dimensions in relativity, where time carries a distinct sign in the spacetime metric rather than behaving like an ordinary fourth direction.

Some initial early-galaxy mass estimates were inflated by light from active black holes; after accounting for these sources, there is no crisis for the standard cosmological model, though galaxy formation was still more efficient than expected.
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What the pattern means: The same 'Big Bang is off' comment gets read here for what actually happened behind the headline: some of the earliest galaxy mass estimates were skewed by light from active black holes, a correction that reshapes numbers without upending the standard model.

What commenters described: Galaxies that we can see that were born in the first 5% of the universe's history appear to be much older than they should be.

Some standard descriptions treat time as beginning with the Big Bang, but cosmologists lack a definitive account of the earliest instant and consider models with a pre-Big-Bang phase; calling every question about “before” fundamentally absurd is too strong.
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What the pattern means: A commenter admits the analogy of things expanding 'into' space breaks down entirely for time, since if spacetime itself came into being with the universe, then even asking what came before starts to look like a malformed question.

Limit: Calling every question about 'before the Big Bang' fundamentally absurd goes further than cosmologists themselves are willing to claim, since models with an earlier phase are still actively studied.

Spaceflight poses real radiation, microgravity, pressure, and thermal hazards, but vacuum does not make a body explode and exotic exoplanet weather is usually remotely inferred
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What the pattern means: The original poster piles on a vivid list of ways the universe is hostile to life, radiation-driven cancer, bone loss in microgravity, pressure extremes that either bloat or crush the body, and exotic weather like glass rain and supersonic winds elsewhere.

What commenters described: The atmospheric pressure of other worlds either turns your body into an overinflated balloon or a crushed milk can.

The balloon surface can illustrate increasing distances without an expansion center, but it does not establish that our three-dimensional universe is a closed loop or wraps back on itself; observations constrain curvature while global topology remains unsettled.
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What the pattern means: A commenter dresses up the balloon analogy with a stick-figure character to make the 'no center' idea land, then goes a step further and claims the universe's fabric actually wraps back around into a closed loop, a much stronger claim than the analogy itself can support.

Limit: The comment states the universe 'is actually' a closed loop as fact, when current measurements are consistent with flatness and haven't established the universe's global shape.

The Big Bang was not an explosion from one location into space; standard cosmology describes expansion occurring everywhere without a spatial center or “back side.”
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What the pattern means: A commenter dismantles the 'explosion from one spot' mental image directly, insisting there's no 'back side' to the Big Bang because it happened everywhere in space simultaneously rather than radiating outward from a single point.

What commenters described: It wasn't unidirectional and apparently it also wasn't in a single spot either, it was like it happened everywhere at the same time.

The rise of oxygen oxidized dissolved iron and helped form banded iron deposits, but it did not create all iron ore in one event
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What the pattern means: A commenter connects two rust-colored dots across the solar system, noting the same oxygen-driven chemistry that turned dissolved iron into ore on early Earth is echoed in what gives Mars its reddish hue.

What commenters described: It's thanks to free oxygen in the atmosphere that iron turned into iron ore, which is reddish.

The universe can expand without taking room from an exterior; general-relativistic cosmology describes its geometry and changing internal distances without requiring an outside container.
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What the pattern means: A commenter rejects the premise of the 'what does it expand into' question outright, arguing the universe doesn't need anything external to grow into because there's no requirement that expansion 'take' room from somewhere else.

What commenters described: The universe could be all that there is, and still expand. There doesn't need to be anything outside of it to expand into.

A layered-grenade explosion is a misleading model of cosmic expansion: it has a center, fragments moving through pre-existing space, and speeds set by an explosion, whereas homogeneous expansion has no center and scales distances throughout space.
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What the pattern means: A commenter builds an elaborate layered-grenade thought experiment to explain expansion, only to have the model's own center and pre-existing void undercut the very point it's trying to illustrate about a centerless universe.

Limit: A grenade explosion has a definite center and fragments moving through space that was already there, exactly the two features homogeneous cosmic expansion is supposed to lack.

A map whose scale increases over time is a useful limited analogy for cosmic expansion: large-scale distances grow, although locally bound structures do not expand with the map.
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What the pattern means: A commenter reaches for a strikingly mundane comparison, a city map whose scale keeps updating to show everything farther apart, to make expanding distances feel less abstract than balloons or grenades.

What commenters described: Your Google Map of your city constantly updating, and every time it updates, the distances are just larger than they were before.

A rotating torus or doughnut-shaped universe is one possible speculative topology, but the comment’s circulating “water balloon” picture is not the measured standard cosmological model and has no cited observational support.
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What the pattern means: A commenter's deliberately silly childhood-toy image, a rotating water-balloon donut, stands in for a genuine but fringe idea in cosmology, that the universe could have a torus-shaped topology, without any attempt to connect it to actual measurements.

Limit: This is offered as a joke visualization with no cited observational support, not a description of the mainstream or measured shape of the universe.

An imperfect vacuum can contain residual matter, radiation, and fields, but that fact does not provide evidence for an external substance or region into which the universe expands.
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What the pattern means: A commenter draws a clever parallel to how 'empty' rooms turned out to be full of gas and radiation once we looked closely, using that history of surprise to argue we simply don't yet have the tools to know what, if anything, lies beyond the universe.

Limit: The parallel to previously 'empty' rooms doesn't actually provide evidence for something existing beyond the universe; it's an argument from analogy, not a measurement.

Andromeda is about 2.5 million light-years away and is the nearest major galaxy, not the nearest galaxy of any kind; several dwarf satellite galaxies are closer.
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What the pattern means: An outreach educator's go-to fun fact does double duty, framing Andromeda's 2.5-million-year-old light as a literal window onto humanity's tool-using ancestors while noting the Milky Way and Andromeda are already gravitationally intertwined.

What commenters described: The light we're seeing that was emitted from Andromeda left the galaxy 2.5 million years ago, when humanity was still known as homo habilis.

Limit: Andromeda is described here as our closest neighboring galaxy, though several smaller dwarf satellite galaxies actually sit closer to the Milky Way than Andromeda does.

Because light takes about 2.5 million years to cross from Andromeda, observations in either direction show the other galaxy’s ancient past; resolving individual beings or Earth’s surface at that distance is a separate, extreme telescope requirement.
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What the pattern means: The same outreach comment flips the light-delay idea around, imagining hypothetical Andromeda-based observers who'd see modern Earth as it looked in the age of early tool users, since light takes the same 2.5 million years in either direction.

Limit: Actually resolving Earth's surface from Andromeda would need a telescope of an entirely different, far more extreme category than merely 'powerful,' a detail the comment skips past.

Betelgeuse will eventually become a supernova, but current estimates place that event roughly 100,000 years in the future; its distance does not make it likely that it has already exploded.
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What the pattern means: The same comment closes on a shakier claim than its Andromeda material, guessing that Betelgeuse's rumored supernova has likely already happened simply because it's hundreds of light-years away.

Limit: Current estimates place Betelgeuse's supernova roughly 100,000 years in the future, so its distance alone doesn't make an already-occurred explosion likely.

Cosmic expansion can be described relationally as growing large-scale distances between objects, but whether space is “nothing but apartness” is a philosophical interpretation rather than an established physical definition.
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What the pattern means: A commenter works through a genuinely careful non-scientist's argument that space isn't a container at all but simply the fact that things can be apart from each other, so asking what it expands into assumes a false premise from the start.

What commenters described: Expansion isn't space moving outward through something. It's the distances between things growing. The relations are stretching.

Cosmic expansion continues, but cosmologists use “the Big Bang” for the universe’s early hot, dense expansion history, not as a present event that is still happening in the ordinary sense.
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What the pattern means: A commenter blurs two different uses of 'Big Bang' together, treating today's ongoing cosmic expansion as if it were literally the same singular event still unfolding from no particular point.

Limit: Cosmologists typically use 'the Big Bang' for the early hot, dense phase specifically, not as a label for the expansion that has continued ever since.

Cosmic expansion is not conventionally described as space expanding into time; it is a time-dependent change in the spatial distance scale.
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What the pattern means: A commenter reaches for an unconventional framing, that the universe is 'expanding into time' and that gravity-starved voids run on a faster clock than dense filaments, mixing a real relativistic effect with a nonstandard way of describing expansion itself.

Limit: Cosmologists don't generally describe expansion as happening 'into time'; it's more standard to describe expansion as a time-dependent change in spatial distances.

Cosmic expansion means that large-scale comoving distances grow with time, but expansion does not imply positive spatial curvature: an expanding FLRW universe can be spatially flat, open, or closed.
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What the pattern means: A commenter walks through why the sphere-surface analogy works better than a flat map by pointing out that distances between two same-latitude points depend on how close to the equator they are, then extends that same intrinsic-curvature logic to argue cosmic expansion is really our rulers changing over time rather than space bending in some external direction.

What commenters described: The statement that 'space' is expanding is really a statement that our cosmic rulers are growing.

Limit: This framing doesn't imply the universe must be positively curved; an expanding universe under general relativity can be flat, open, or closed depending on what's actually measured.

Cosmic voids are underdense rather than literally empty and can still contain galaxies and diffuse matter.
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What the pattern means: A commenter finds the cosmic web's empty patches more unsettling than its dense clusters, describing voids that hold almost no galaxies at all and can stretch up to a billion light-years across.

What commenters described: The regions in between are aptly called voids and are almost empty, with barely any galaxies nor other mass inside.

Cosmological recession can exceed c without a local object outracing light; whether light emitted now ever reaches us is determined by the cosmological event horizon, so “the farthest galaxies” needs a horizon definition rather than distance alone.
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What the pattern means: A commenter carefully keeps dark matter and dark energy from blurring together, then adds a specific number to the Great Attractor story: we're currently receding from it at roughly 2000 km/s even as it nominally pulls us in.

What commenters described: We're currently moving away from the attractor at something like 2000 km/s.

Limit: The commenter flags their own uncertainty on that figure, noting 'I don't remember the exact numbers, but IIRC.'

Cosmological recession rates can exceed c at sufficiently large distances because the Hubble relation grows with distance; this is not local faster-than-light motion through space.
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What the pattern means: A commenter uses two dots on an inflating balloon to show how space itself, rather than anything moving through it, can separate points faster than light, then shrugs off the harder question of what it's expanding into as genuinely unresolved.

What commenters described: Since space is expanding itself it can go faster than light.

Cosmology has not established a physical spatial edge where space abruptly stops; the observable horizon is a visibility limit, not a boundary with a known other side.
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What the pattern means: A commenter describes hitting a real wall trying to picture a literal edge of space, unable to make sense of what could possibly be on the other side of a point where 'space' just stops.

What commenters described: There is a point where space just stops being.... and I can't understand what's on the other side of that.

Cross-contamination is not merely theoretical or negligible; historical repositories found many misidentified cultures, and ATCC recommends discarding a contaminated culture and restarting from authenticated stock.
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What the pattern means: A commenter rejects treating cell-culture cross-contamination as either purely theoretical or routine, describing fingerprint-based validation testing and a strict discard-and-restart protocol whenever contamination actually turns up.

What commenters described: As soon as detected everything is destroyed because it would be useless.

Current cosmological accounting is approximately 5% ordinary matter, 27% dark matter, and 68% dark energy—not 3% ordinary matter and 97% dark components.
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What the pattern means: A commenter corrects a popular but wrong version of the cosmic pie chart, insisting the real split isn't '3% stuff, 97% empty' but instead a universe dominated by dark matter and dark energy that we simply can't directly detect.

Limit: The commenter's own framing still folds dark matter and dark energy together as generic 'stuff we can't see,' when the two behave completely differently and aren't standardly summed as one undifferentiated category.

Dark matter and dark energy are distinct: dark matter is inferred through gravitational effects and helps bind galaxies and structure, whereas dark energy names whatever drives accelerated cosmic expansion.
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What the pattern means: The same explainer keeps dark matter and dark energy conceptually separate throughout, casting one as invisible gravitational glue holding galaxies together and the other as the still-unnamed cause of space itself accelerating apart.

What commenters described: Dark matter behaves like regular matter in regards to gravity, but is completely invisible... Dark energy is a name for mysterious force that causes the expansion of space.

Dark matter and dark energy are not simply “stuff we can’t interact with”: dark matter is inferred through gravity, while dark energy is inferred from the universe’s accelerating expansion.
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What the pattern means: The same percentage correction gets read here for its underlying category error, treating dark matter and dark energy as one undifferentiated bucket of 'stuff we can't interact with' rather than two separately inferred phenomena.

Limit: Lumping dark matter and dark energy together as identically mysterious 'stuff' erases the real distinction: one is inferred from gravity, the other from expansion's acceleration.

Earth’s orbital plane, the ecliptic, is tilted about 60 degrees to the Milky Way’s plane—not exactly perpendicular—while the Sun carries the whole solar system around the galactic center.
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What the pattern means: A commenter is struck by the apparent mismatch between Earth's orbit and the galaxy's, describing the ecliptic as looking perpendicular rather than lined up with the Sun's own path around the galactic center.

Limit: The angle is closer to about 60 degrees than a true right angle, so 'perpendicular' overstates the actual tilt between the two planes.

General relativity describes spacetime geometry intrinsically and does not require the expanding universe to be embedded in a higher-dimensional external space.
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What the pattern means: A commenter locates the real flaw in the balloon analogy, that general relativity's curved spacetime is an intrinsic property of the geometry itself and was never meant to need a higher-dimensional space wrapped around it.

What commenters described: The spacetime describing an expanding universe isn't embedded in some higher-dimensional space. Its curvature is an intrinsic property describing how we measure distances in spacetime.

Heat death is a possible long-term fate in continued expansion, but it is not established that every atom will literally become isolated or that the universe will be “dead for eternity”; the outcome depends on dark-energy behavior and extremely long-term physics.
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What the pattern means: A commenter jumps straight to the bleakest possible ending for the universe, describing every atom eventually drifting so far apart that light, stars, and life all become meaningless footnotes to an eternity of nothing.

Limit: Whether the universe actually reaches this kind of heat death, and how 'final' that state truly is, depends on dark-energy behavior over spans of time current physics can't yet pin down.

Images compress galactic scale: even the nearest star beyond the Sun is about 4.2 light-years, or roughly 25 trillion miles, away, and typical stellar separations are measured in light-years.
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What the pattern means: A commenter names the specific illusion long-exposure galaxy photos create, that stars crammed together in an image are actually separated by distances measured in trillions of miles.

What commenters described: There's actually trillions of miles between each one.

In standard cosmology, objects are located within space, while cosmic expansion is described by changing distances within spacetime rather than motion of space into an external container.
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What the pattern means: A commenter flips the 'expanding into what' question back on itself, arguing the premise is backwards since things exist inside space, not the other way around, so space doesn't need an outer container to grow.

What commenters described: Things are in space, not the other way around.

It takes roughly 10^35 Planck lengths to span a human height but roughly 10^27 human heights to span the observable-universe diameter, so the stated count comparison is correct and establishes the logarithmic-scale result.
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What the pattern means: A commenter shuts down pushback on the size-scale comparison bluntly, insisting the math is straightforward: it genuinely takes more Planck lengths to span a human than human heights to span the observable universe.

What commenters described: It would take more planck lengths to reach the height of a human than human heights to span the diameter of the observable universe.

Laniakea was defined from reconstructed galaxy velocity flows as a basin of attraction, broadly supporting the reply’s final sentence.
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What the pattern means: A commenter narrates the Great Attractor's formation almost like a snowball effect, ordinary galaxies clumping, growing denser, then pulling in ever more distant matter until the whole structure becomes what we now call the boundary of the Laniakea Supercluster.

What commenters described: Everything going towards The Great Attractor is what defines the Laniakea Supercluster.

Light travels at about 186,000 miles per second in vacuum.
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What the pattern means: A commenter marvels at the mismatch between human-scale intuition and cosmic distance, noting that light crossing a thousand miles in a fraction of a second still isn't remotely fast enough to cross the universe even given billions of years.

What commenters described: Light can cover [1000 miles] in 1/186,000ths of a second, yet light is not fast enough to travel from one end of the universe to the other, even over billions of years.

On large scales, galaxies and matter form a cosmic web of clusters, walls, and filaments separated by underdense voids.
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What the pattern means: The same cosmic-web comment doubles as a description of large-scale structure itself, picturing superclusters strung together by filaments with mostly empty voids filling the space between them.

What commenters described: The universe resembles a network of galaxy superclusters connected to each other by filaments.

Peculiar velocities can accumulate from small gravitational accelerations over cosmological time, but the reply’s exact rocket analogy and “hundreds of trillions of times longer” figure are not sourced.
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What the pattern means: A commenter tries to make an almost imperceptible acceleration feel real by comparing it to a rocket launch, noting the pull toward the Great Attractor is about a hundred times a rocket's launch acceleration but stretched over a timescale hundreds of trillions of times longer.

Limit: The specific multiplier and rocket comparison are offered from memory without a cited source, so the numbers should be read as illustrative rather than precise.

Some catalogued voids approach one billion light-years across; one billion light-years is roughly 1.1% of the observable universe’s approximately 93-billion-light-year diameter.
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What the pattern means: The same cosmic-void comment supplies a concrete sense of scale for these gaps, putting the largest known voids at roughly one percent of the entire observable universe's diameter.

What commenters described: Some of these voids are truly massive, with diameters up to one billion lightyears... roughly 1% of the diameter of the entire observable universe.

Standard cosmology does not describe the universe as expanding into pre-existing space; expansion is an increase in large-scale distances within spacetime.
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What the pattern means: A commenter takes the opposite tack from most of this thread, arguing expansion happens 'into more space' because there's already plenty of empty space between existing stars and planets to grow into.

Limit: This framing conflates the ordinary empty space between objects within the universe with the separate question of what, if anything, lies beyond the universe as a whole.

Standard cosmology does not require expansion into anything outside the universe.
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What the pattern means: The same balloon-dots comment doubles here as a shrug at the deeper metaphysical question, willing to call the universe simply 'everything' getting bigger rather than commit to any answer about an external space.

Limit: The commenter explicitly says 'we aren't sure' what it's expanding into, treating the question as open rather than resolved.

The Alcubierre metric is a mathematical spacetime solution permitting effective superluminal travel, but known superluminal warp constructions require exotic negative energy densities and face severe physical and quantum constraints; solving field equations is not a demonstrated propulsion technology.
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What the pattern means: A commenter concedes the appeal of faster-than-light travel while refusing to let go of the deeper problem it creates, noting that Alcubierre-style solutions lean on things like negative mass that may not exist, and that any real FTL breaks the causal structure of the universe.

Limit: Solving the equations for a warp metric is not the same as it being physically realizable; known constructions require exotic negative energy densities never observed in nature.

The bullet and walking-speed ratios are only loose orders of magnitude: 700 km/s is typically well over a thousand handgun-bullet speeds, while bullet-to-walking ratios vary by ammunition and person.
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What the pattern means: A commenter builds a chain of relatable speed comparisons to size up 700 km/s, roughly a thousand times a handgun bullet, which is itself roughly a thousand times an elderly person's walking pace, before concluding it's still not actually that dramatic cosmically.

Limit: Both thousand-times multipliers are rough, order-of-magnitude comparisons that shift depending on the specific bullet type or walker in question.

The clearest standard description is that cosmic expansion increases distances between comoving locations rather than pushing the universe into an external container.
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What the pattern means: A commenter offers what they consider the clearest fix for the 'expanding into what' confusion, reframing expansion as simply the space between things increasing rather than the universe pushing outward into anything.

What commenters described: You shouldn't see it as expanding into something but as the space between things increasing.

The early universe produced a tiny excess of matter—roughly one surviving baryon per billion matter–antimatter pairs—not 'the percentage of antimatter plus one'
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What the pattern means: Writing in Italian, the original poster reduces the entire matter-antimatter puzzle to a single ratio, that matter's share equals antimatter's plus one, and credits that lone extra unit with being the reason anything exists in the universe at all.

Limit: The real asymmetry is a tiny statistical excess, roughly one surviving particle per billion annihilated pairs, not literally a difference of exactly one unit.

The Great Attractor is not simply one clump that is gathering and pulling everything into it; it describes a direction and region in a broader, evolving mass-flow field.
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What the pattern means: The same clump-and-gather explanation gets cited here to push back on picturing the Great Attractor as one single object reeling everything in, describing it instead as a self-reinforcing regional pull that grows as more mass joins the flow.

Limit: Describing it as 'just a tighter clump... nothing more mysterious than that' undersells that the Great Attractor names a direction and region within a broader, still-evolving flow field, not a single finished object.

The illustrative energy arithmetic is internally inconsistent: after spending 20% of 80%, 64% remains, and 20% of 64% is 12.8%, not 14.8% of an asserted 74%.
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What the pattern means: The grenade-shell explainer trips over its own arithmetic partway through: after taking 20% of a remaining 80% for one layer, the next '20% of the remaining 74%' skips a step, since 80% minus 16% actually leaves 64%, not 74%.

Limit: The math itself is inconsistent: 20% of the correctly recalculated 64% remaining would be 12.8%, not the 14.8% the comment arrives at.

The Milky Way and Andromeda are gravitationally interacting and moving toward a future encounter.
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What the pattern means: The same outreach anecdote gets cited here for its plainest claim, that the Milky Way and Andromeda aren't just on a collision course someday but are already close enough to be gravitationally tugging at each other right now.

What commenters described: It's close enough that it and the Milky Way are already interacting gravitationally.

The net distance to the Great Attractor can increase even while its gravity gives us a peculiar velocity toward it, but the comment’s approximate 2,000 km/s value is not sourced and depends on adopted distance and Hubble constant.
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What the pattern means: The same dark-matter-versus-dark-energy explainer highlights the genuinely strange part of the Great Attractor story: gravity is still pulling us toward it even while the raw distance between us and it is, net, getting larger.

Limit: The specific 2,000 km/s recession figure is offered from memory rather than a cited source, and the true number depends on which distance and Hubble constant values are assumed.

The observable universe contains at least hundreds of billions of galaxies; 'Milky Way' names our galaxy
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What the pattern means: The original poster's phrasing muddles a real number with a category error, seeming to suggest there are multiple Milky Ways rather than one galaxy among the universe's hundreds of billions of others.

Limit: 'Milky Way' names our own specific galaxy; the intended point, that galaxies like ours number in the hundreds of billions, gets lost in the wording.

The observable universe is about 93 billion light-years across today, and accelerated expansion plus horizons mean light cannot traverse the entire present universe in a simple universe-age crossing time.
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What the pattern means: The same commenter who marveled at light's speed across a thousand miles pushes the same intuition to a cosmic scale, landing on the genuinely disorienting fact that light still can't cross the whole universe even given billions of years to do it.

What commenters described: Light is not fast enough to travel from one end of the universe to the other, even over billions of years.

The Planck length marks a scale where both quantum theory and gravity are expected to matter, but it does not establish that known physics abruptly stops or prove either continuous or discrete space.
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What the pattern means: A commenter treats the Planck-length puzzle as a genuine either-or rather than a settled fact, laying out that space is either infinitely divisible with no smallest unit, or it has some floor beneath which 'space' stops meaning what we think it means.

What commenters described: Space has some lower limit of size, beyond which either nothing could be measured, or else it becomes something different and no longer space as we know it.

The proposed infinite-hotel move shifts every guest from room n to n+2, leaving two empty rooms but keeping neighboring guests in adjacent rooms; it does not model a uniform expansion of spacing.
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What the pattern means: A commenter borrows Hilbert's infinite hotel to make expansion concrete, having every guest jump from room n to room n+2 so the spacing between neighbors doubles even though the hotel, like the universe, never expands into anything outside itself.

What commenters described: The hotel is not expanding into anything, it's still the same hotel, just the space between the guests in the hotel stretched.

Limit: Shifting guests by a fixed two rooms models a uniform doubling of gaps everywhere at once, which is a simplified stand-in for the more continuous way cosmic expansion actually stretches distances.

The regions between stars and galaxies are extremely sparse but not literal nothingness: they contain gas, dust, radiation, fields, and other components.
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What the pattern means: The same 'expanding into more space' comment gets read here for its more defensible half, that the gaps between stars and galaxies were never truly empty nothingness to begin with.

Limit: Even granting that interstellar space isn't perfectly empty, it's still an extremely sparse near-vacuum, nowhere close to being filled with meaningful matter.

The reported Big Ring spans about 1.3 billion light-years in diameter and roughly 4 billion around its circumference
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What the pattern means: The original poster leans on a vivid, testable comparison to convey the Big Ring's scale, imagining it would look 15 times larger than the Moon in our sky if only it were bright enough to see, before admitting astronomers have no working explanation for how something that size could form.

What commenters described: It would appear 15x larger than the moon in our sky if it was brighter.

Thirty sextillion stars, or 3×10^22, falls within a commonly cited rough estimate of 10^22 to 10^24 stars in the observable universe; the count is an extrapolation with large uncertainty, not a direct census.
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What the pattern means: A commenter passes along a specific number they heard secondhand from physicist Brian Cox, thirty sextillion stars in the observable universe, treating a media clip as a citable figure rather than double-checking the underlying estimate.

What commenters described: The number of stars in the observable universe is 30,000 million, million, million or 30 sextillion.

Using a 1.8-m person, a Planck length of about 1.616×10^-35 m, and an observable-universe diameter near 8.8×10^26 m, the person-to-universe fraction is about 2×10^-27 while the Planck-to-person fraction is about 9×10^-36; the first fraction is roughly 230 million times larger.
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What the pattern means: A commenter flatly reverses an earlier size-scale claim, insisting a human is proportionally closer to the observable universe's size than to a Planck length, not the other way around.

What commenters described: The percentage of the diameter of the observable universe that a human body makes up is larger than the percentage of a human body that a plank length makes up.

Water is cosmically abundant and Mars lost much of its atmosphere and water, but a strong global magnetic field is not the only way a planet can retain oceans
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What the pattern means: A commenter connects an obscure fact, oxygen being the third most common element in the universe, to a memorable planetary contrast, arguing Mars lost its oceans mainly because it lacks the magnetic shielding that let Earth's water survive solar radiation long enough for life to remake the atmosphere.

What commenters described: Mars's lack of one is thought to be the primary reason why it doesn't have oceans anymore.

Limit: A strong global magnetic field is presented as the key variable, though it's not the only mechanism by which a planet could in principle retain surface water over geologic time.

“Stretching” is a useful analogy for cosmic expansion, but there is no evidence that space consists of literal pixels; homogeneous expansion is modeled by a scale factor that changes large-scale distances.
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What the pattern means: A commenter tries out several competing verbs for what expansion actually does, floating a pixel-grid image before second-guessing whether 'growing,' 'stretching,' or something else entirely captures it better, without settling on one.

Limit: The pixel-grid picture is offered purely as a personal way of thinking about it, not a claim that space is actually made of discrete units.

'Stupendously large black holes' names a theoretical mass class, not a newly observed population
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What the pattern means: The original poster reacts mostly to the sheer boldness of the terminology itself, that physicists needed a whole new label, 'stupendously large,' just to describe a mass class beyond ordinary supermassive black holes.

Limit: This names a proposed theoretical mass category rather than an actually observed new population of black holes.

A dangerous gamma-ray burst would arrive without an advance electromagnetic warning from the burst itself, but modeled terrestrial effects are not instantaneous conversion to space dust: the atmosphere absorbs the prompt radiation and the major modeled hazard is ozone depletion followed by elevated solar ultraviolet exposure.
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What the pattern means: A commenter imagines a gamma-ray burst killing instantly and without warning mid-commute, collapsing a genuinely complex hazard chain into a single cinematic jump-cut to 'space dust.'

Limit: The real modeled danger isn't instant vaporization; the atmosphere absorbs the prompt radiation, and the significant threat is ozone depletion followed by increased surface ultraviolet exposure over time.

A future recollapse and cyclic new Big Bang are not inevitable: observed expansion is accelerating, and the universe’s fate depends on dark energy and other cosmological parameters.
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What the pattern means: A commenter describes an appealing, tidy ending for cosmic expansion, stretching until it snaps back into a fresh Big Bang, without addressing the observed acceleration that currently points the other way.

Limit: This cyclic recollapse scenario runs against the fact that expansion is observed to be accelerating, not slowing toward a turnaround.

A galaxy “collision” means their large-scale stellar, gas, and dark-matter systems interact and may merge; because stars are extremely far apart relative to their size, direct star-star collisions would be rare, though stellar orbits and environments could change.
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What the pattern means: A commenter tempers the classic 'Milky Way and Andromeda are doomed to collide' framing with two caveats at once, that current models only give it roughly even odds, and that even if it happens, most planets wouldn't notice given how empty galaxies really are.

Limit: Calling it a 'collision' is itself flagged as something of a misnomer, since the vast empty space inside both galaxies means very little would actually crash together.

A positively curved space can be finite without a boundary, but this is an illustrative possible geometry rather than the known shape of the whole universe; observations find the observable region consistent with near-flat spatial geometry.
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What the pattern means: A commenter pictures a video-game map with no visible edges, where traveling far enough in one direction loops you back to the start, as a way of making a finite-but-borderless universe feel intuitive rather than contradictory.

Limit: The commenter is careful to note this only illustrates one possible geometry, not a claim that the universe is actually curved this way.

A roughly 26,000-light-year trip to the Galactic center at 700 km/s would take about 11 million years, ignoring acceleration and trajectory.
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What the pattern means: A commenter runs 700 km/s through a whole ladder of familiar distances, from circling the globe in about a minute up to an 11-million-year trip to the galactic center, using the escalating numbers to defuse any real anxiety about the speed itself.

What commenters described: It would take about one minute to circle the world... 11 million years to reach the center of our own galaxy, the Milky Way. No need to worry.

A space can be finite yet unbounded, as a sphere’s two-dimensional surface illustrates, but that analogy does not establish that the universe has positive curvature or a particular global topology.
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What the pattern means: A commenter answers a very natural objection, that infinite must mean endless, by pointing out a sphere's surface has no edge yet also has a perfectly finite area, using that everyday geometry to make a genuinely hard 3D concept slightly more graspable.

What commenters described: The surface area of a ball doesn't have any end. It's just way harder to imagine that for a 3d space than 2d.

Absolute distance differences do not answer the comment’s ratio question: on a multiplicative or logarithmic scale, a human is substantially closer to the observable-universe diameter than a Planck length is to human height, so dismissing both merely as rounding errors does not refute the stated percentage comparison.
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What the pattern means: A commenter rejects a size comparison by insisting a human and a Planck length are functionally identical 'rounding errors' against the universe's scale, illustrating the point with a meter, kilometer, and picometer rather than engaging with the original ratio math.

Limit: The meter/kilometer/picometer comparison sidesteps rather than resolves the specific logarithmic-scale ratio the original claim was actually making.

Alpha Centauri is about 4.3 light-years—not 4.37 million light-years—away; nevertheless, 700 km/s would cover that distance in roughly 1,850 years.
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What the pattern means: The same speed-ladder comment stumbles on its own numbers, quietly turning Alpha Centauri's actual 4.3 light-year distance into a wildly inflated '4.37 million light years' while otherwise laying out a clean set of travel-time comparisons.

Limit: Alpha Centauri sits about 4.3 light-years away, not 4.37 million; the six-order-of-magnitude slip undercuts an otherwise carefully built comparison.

An event horizon is a causal boundary, not a visible place where space, time, and every law of nature ends; physics remains well defined at the horizon for a sufficiently large freely falling observer.
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What the pattern means: A commenter treats a black hole's event horizon as a literal, visible place where space, time, and physical law simply stop, folding Sagittarius A* into an image of the galaxy being powered by holes torn in its own fabric.

Limit: An event horizon marks a causal boundary, not a place where physics itself breaks down; for a large enough black hole a falling observer would cross it without local physics ceasing to apply.

An infinite universe can undergo metric expansion without expanding into an exterior, but infinity is not required: finite cosmological geometries can also expand.
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What the pattern means: A commenter leans on infinity's odd math to answer the 'expanding into what' question, arguing an infinite universe can simply expand into itself the same way an infinite hotel can always make room for more guests.

Limit: Infinite extent isn't actually required for expansion to work this way; finite cosmological geometries can undergo the same kind of metric expansion without needing an exterior either.

An observer’s observable universe is centered on that observer by definition, and the present-day comoving diameter for an observer at our cosmic epoch is about 93–94 billion light-years; calling it an identical personal sphere for every possible observer overlooks differences in cosmic time, location, and spacetime history.
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What the pattern means: A commenter finds something almost poetic in the cosmological horizon, that its definition guarantees every single observer anywhere sits at the exact center of their own personal, roughly 93-billion-light-year-wide bubble of visible universe.

Limit: This 'personal center' framing is true by definition for any observer's own horizon, but it glosses over how the exact size and contents of that bubble shift with an observer's location and place in cosmic time.

Arguments that attempts to probe below the Planck length would form a black hole motivate theoretical minimum-length proposals, but this is not an experimentally demonstrated hard boundary and depends on unresolved quantum gravity.
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What the pattern means: A commenter answers a tangential question about perception with real detail on optics, explaining that resolving smaller distances needs shorter-wavelength, higher-energy photons, until you approach the Planck length, where that same energy density would simply collapse into a black hole instead of an image.

Limit: This entire chain rests on a theoretical prediction from unresolved quantum gravity, not a boundary anyone has actually tested experimentally.

At 700 km/s, crossing Earth’s approximately 12,700-km diameter takes about 18 seconds, traversing half its roughly 40,000-km circumference about 29 seconds, and covering the mean Earth–Moon distance about 9.2 minutes.
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What the pattern means: A commenter does their own arithmetic from scratch rather than trusting an earlier estimate, working out that 700 km/s would cross Earth's diameter in about 18 seconds and reach the Moon in roughly nine minutes, while flagging the numbers as a personal calculation rather than a verified source.

What commenters described: To get to the moon at that speed would take about 9 minutes and 10 seconds.

Limit: I ripped all my numbers from google and did the math on a calculator myself so take it with a grain of salt / check my work.

At 700 km/s, one Earth circumference takes about 57 seconds and the mean Earth–Moon distance about 9.2 minutes.
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What the pattern means: The same speed-ladder comment anchors its smallest-scale comparisons close to home, putting a full trip around Earth's circumference and a jaunt to the Moon both comfortably under ten minutes at 700 km/s.

What commenters described: It would take about one minute to circle the world. It would take 10 minutes to reach the moon.

Black holes exist across a wide mass range, and Sagittarius A* is the roughly four-million-solar-mass black hole at the Milky Way’s center.
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What the pattern means: The same black-hole comment supplies a concrete anchor for scale, naming Sagittarius A* specifically as the supermassive object sitting at our own galaxy's center among a whole range of black hole sizes.

What commenters described: Sagittarius A* is a super-massive black hole in the center of our own galaxy.

Central supermassive black holes can energize accretion disks and jets when actively feeding, but black holes do not generally “power” their host galaxies.
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What the pattern means: The same comment's most quotable line, that black holes 'power our galaxies,' is more poetic than precise, since only actively feeding black holes light up accretion disks and jets, while most sit quiet at their galaxy's center.

Limit: Central black holes don't generally power their host galaxies in any ongoing sense; that kind of energetic output only happens while the black hole is actively accreting material.

Claims that our observable universe is a black hole event horizon, expands by accreting external matter, and began as a parent-universe black-hole collapse are speculative and not established by cosmological observations.
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What the pattern means: A commenter runs with a genuinely fringe but fun idea to its logical end, casting our entire observable universe as the inside of a black hole, the Big Bang as that black hole's own collapse, and cosmic expansion as it continuing to swallow matter.

Limit: This 'universe as a black hole' picture is a speculative analogy circulating online, not a claim supported by mainstream cosmological observation.

Cosmic expansion does not appreciably stretch gravitationally or otherwise bound systems such as galaxies, solar systems, or people; on those scales local binding forces dominate.
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What the pattern means: A commenter extends the fish-in-a-river image into a grocery run, casting the Great Attractor as a meatball sub waiting upstream while accelerating expansion turns the current against us faster than our galaxy can swim.

What commenters described: On smaller scales gravity wins. Galaxies spread out from each other but they will stay together themselves because of all the mass.

Cosmic expansion is modeled intrinsically as increasing separation within spacetime and does not require pre-existing exterior space; saying the assumption is “nothing outside” is less precise than saying the standard model does not define an outside.
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What the pattern means: A commenter quotes a definitional source directly to settle the 'expanding into what' debate, that expansion describes growing distances between unbound regions and doesn't by itself claim anything exists, or doesn't exist, outside the universe.

What commenters described: It is an intrinsic expansion, so it does not mean that the universe expands into anything or that space exists outside it.

Cosmic expansion means large-scale comoving distances grow over time, while the total universe and the observable universe are different concepts.
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What the pattern means: A commenter draws a distinction that trips up a lot of the thread, that the whole universe might already be infinite while the observable universe, limited by how far light has had time to travel, stays a finite, ever-growing bubble around us.

What commenters described: The possibly-infinite universe isn't the same concept as the observable universe, which is finite.

Cosmological redshifts and distance measurements support metric expansion, not merely galaxies moving through a fixed Euclidean background; “space expands” is the standard general-relativistic model description, with locally bound systems excluded.
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What the pattern means: A commenter draws a careful line between data and interpretation, arguing that all our models really establish is objects moving apart, while 'space itself is expanding' is the standard explanatory framework layered on top rather than a directly observed fact.

Limit: Framing 'space literally expands' as merely one interpretation understates how thoroughly redshift and distance data support metric expansion as the standard general-relativistic description, not just one option among equals.

Cosmology uses statistical inference to compare quantitative models with noisy observations, but its conclusions are not “basically just statistics” or consensus guesses: ΛCDM parameters are jointly constrained by independent datasets such as the microwave background, lensing, supernovae, and large-scale structure.
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What the pattern means: A self-described non-expert compares cosmology to blind men describing an elephant, or in this case a whale, piecing together probability-based guesses from partial observations rather than certain knowledge.

Limit: The commenter flags their own inexperience upfront, and the 'basically just statistics, basically consensus guessing' framing undersells how tightly parameters like these get cross-checked against multiple independent kinds of data.

Covering the mean Earth–Moon distance at 11.2 km/s takes about 9.5 hours, not nearly six days; the stated 1:1000 ratio is therefore also false.
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What the pattern means: The same self-checked math comment stumbles specifically on its escape-velocity figure, claiming a six-day trip to the Moon at 11.2 km/s when the actual travel time at that speed works out closer to nine and a half hours.

Limit: The nearly six-day figure and the resulting 1:1000 ratio are both off; at 11.2 km/s the Earth-Moon distance would take roughly 9.5 hours, not days.

Current theory becomes incomplete when extrapolated to a classical singularity inside a black hole, but that region is hidden behind the event horizon and is not something we literally see.
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What the pattern means: The same 'we can see where the laws of nature end' line gets picked apart here for conflating two different things: a black hole's hidden interior, where current physics genuinely breaks down, isn't something anyone can actually observe or literally see.

Limit: The region where physics becomes incomplete sits behind the event horizon, by definition invisible to outside observers, so calling it something 'we can literally see' misstates what's actually being discussed.

Dark energy is invoked to explain the relatively recent acceleration of cosmic expansion; the universe expanded for billions of years before dark energy became dynamically dominant.
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What the pattern means: A commenter issues a terse but important correction, that dark energy explains why expansion is speeding up now, not why the universe has been expanding at all since the Big Bang.

What commenters described: Dark energy is responsible for accelerating expansion, not expansion itself.

Dark energy is the name for the unknown cause of accelerating cosmic expansion, while local mass concentrations create peculiar velocities; saying we move away from the Great Attractor more slowly than pure Hubble flow is qualitatively consistent, but the 700 km/s difference is direction- and definition-dependent.
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What the pattern means: A commenter confirms an earlier claim about our net motion away from the Great Attractor while adding a specific number, that our recession is running about 700 km/s slower than pure cosmic expansion alone would produce.

What commenters described: We are actually moving away from the Great Attractor, however that movement is about 700 km/s slower than it would be based on the expansion of space alone.

Dark matter does not pull everything apart; it gravitates and helps structures form, while dark energy is the name for the phenomenon associated with accelerated cosmic expansion.
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What the pattern means: A commenter voices genuine confusion about how gravity pulling us toward the Great Attractor and an opposing 'Dark Matter pulling everything apart' can coexist without simply canceling out, a mix-up that quietly swaps dark energy's role onto dark matter.

Limit: The question itself conflates the two: dark matter gravitates and helps hold structures together, while it's dark energy, not dark matter, that's associated with the accelerating expansion pulling things apart.

Distant-supernova observations support a history in which cosmic expansion transitioned from deceleration to acceleration, but “farther galaxies accelerate faster” conflates the distance–recession relation with the time evolution of the expansion rate.
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What the pattern means: A commenter raises the Hubble tension as a genuine complication for tidy expansion narratives, pointing out that different measurement methods disagree on the universe's expansion rate and that the disagreement is getting worse, not better, over time.

Limit: The commenter is upfront that 'the reasons for that are still up for grabs,' so this reads as flagging an open controversy rather than resolving it.

Even at light speed, the nearest star is about 4.2 years away one-way; claims about future colonial trade viability or worthwhile resources are economic speculation rather than established science.
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What the pattern means: A commenter extends the light-speed limit into a genuinely bleak economic argument, that interstellar colonies could never function as real trade partners given multi-year transit times even in a best-case scenario, using Voyager 1's decades-long crawl out of the solar system as the reality check.

Limit: The claim about colonies never being viable trade partners is economic and technological speculation about the future, not an established scientific finding.

Expansion is inferred from redshift–distance relations, supernovae, the cosmic microwave background, and other observations—not merely from an imperceptible coordinate-system zoom.
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What the pattern means: A commenter with a math background reaches for a coordinate-zoom metaphor instead of the usual balloon, picturing growing distances between any two points in a 3D grid, while repeatedly flagging their own uncertainty about whether that's actually how astronomers measured it.

Limit: The commenter admits multiple times, 'I'm not a physics guy so I could be totally wrong,' framing this explicitly as a personal, possibly mistaken mental model rather than a sourced explanation.

Galaxies follow free-fall trajectories in curved spacetime, but that does not make “pulled by gravity” meaningless: their peculiar velocities trace gravitational perturbations from an uneven mass distribution.
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What the pattern means: A commenter pushes back hard on the everyday phrase 'pulled toward it,' insisting that everything in space is technically in free fall and that nothing gets specifically singled out and tugged.

Limit: Calling 'pulled by gravity' entirely meaningless overcorrects; peculiar velocities like ours toward the Great Attractor still meaningfully trace real gravitational perturbations from an uneven mass distribution.

Galaxies participate in overall cosmic expansion while also having local peculiar velocities; saying we move “the other direction faster than it pulls” mixes reference frames and is not a valid reason that the flow is harmless.
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What the pattern means: A commenter offers a reassuring but garbled bit of physics, that we're supposedly moving away from the Great Attractor faster than it pulls us in, which mixes up two different reference frames rather than correctly separating peculiar velocity from cosmic expansion.

Limit: The reasoning conflates our motion relative to the Great Attractor with the expansion of space itself, two separate effects that shouldn't be compared as if racing head-to-head.

Galaxy counts provide evidence for a local underdensity often called the Local Hole, on scales around 100–200 h⁻¹ Mpc; describing a sharply bounded two-billion-light-year empty hole is an oversimplification, and its amplitude and cosmological importance remain actively debated.
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What the pattern means: A commenter drops a genuinely startling factoid almost too casually, calling a 2-billion-light-year-wide underdensity we may be living inside a 'measly' size, treating an enormous structure like a minor aside.

Limit: The so-called Local Hole's exact boundaries, amplitude, and even its broader cosmological significance remain actively debated rather than settled.

Galaxy-flow studies distinguish Hubble expansion from peculiar velocity: after subtracting mean cosmic expansion, local galaxies show inward peculiar flows toward the Laniakea basin of attraction.
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What the pattern means: A commenter corrects the framing of our motion toward the Great Attractor with real precision, clarifying that the often-cited 700 km/s figure describes the most strongly affected nearby galaxies, not our own offset from the Hubble flow.

Limit: There is no observed acceleration in this value, according to the same commenter, pushing back against any implication that our infall rate is increasing.

General relativity distinguishes cosmological recession encoded in the changing spacetime metric from a galaxy’s local peculiar velocity, even though both can change measured distance; saying there is no meaningful difference erases a useful model-dependent distinction.
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What the pattern means: A commenter collapses cosmological recession and ordinary peculiar velocity into one undifferentiated idea, arguing general relativity only ever describes things 'moving away from each other' without needing any further distinction.

Limit: Treating recession and peculiar velocity as interchangeable erases a genuinely useful model-dependent distinction cosmologists rely on to separate expansion effects from local gravitational motion.

General-relativistic cosmology does not require an external medium, inside, or outside for space to expand into; insisting on one imports a property of the physical balloon into an analogy where only its changing surface distances are relevant.
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What the pattern means: A commenter admits the basketball analogy actively backfires for them, insisting there has to be some medium inside and outside the ball the universe expands into, unable to shake the intuition despite acknowledging it 'doesn't matter for most of the thought applications.'

Limit: The commenter's own insistence that 'there has to be something' imports a property of the physical basketball itself into an analogy meant only to illustrate the surface's changing distances.

If accelerated expansion persists, distant unbound galaxies will continue receding and eventually become unobservable, while gravitationally bound local systems remain together; the exact far-future outcome depends on the still-unknown nature of dark energy.
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What the pattern means: A commenter paints a genuinely desolate long-term picture, small clusters of galaxies drifting apart from every other cluster until most of the cosmos fades into empty blackness dotted with isolated remnants.

Limit: This far-future outcome depends on dark energy's behavior continuing as currently observed, something that remains fundamentally unknown rather than settled physics.

If “closer” is interpreted as ordinary absolute difference in metres, a human is indeed much closer to a Planck length than to the observable-universe diameter; absolute distance is a legitimate metric, but not the only meaningful one for quantities spanning dozens of orders of magnitude.
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What the pattern means: A commenter defends the original size comparison on its own terms, quoting it back to show it was explicitly about absolute distance in meters all along, not the logarithmic or proportional framing critics assumed it must have meant.

What commenters described: At no point was this specifically about relativistic proportions, so absolute measure is the baseline assumption.

In the balloon analogy, only the surface represents the modeled universe; the physical balloon’s inside and outside are not cosmological regions.
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What the pattern means: A commenter trims the basketball analogy down to its one load-bearing piece, insisting only the surface stands in for the universe and that whatever is inside or outside the ball is simply irrelevant to the model.

What commenters described: The inside or outside don't matter.

In the balloon analogy, the two-dimensional surface represents all spatial directions available to its hypothetical inhabitants; the three-dimensional interior and exterior are not parts of their modeled universe.
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What the pattern means: The same curved-surface picture gets revisited here for a 2D toy universe specifically, using a borderless video-game map where traveling far enough loops you back to start, all while stressing this is meant to explain the analogy, not assert the real universe's shape.

What commenters described: It can be finite but without any border where it ends.

Interplanetary space is a very low-density vacuum, not “truly nothing”: it contains particles, plasma, radiation, dust, and fields; the claim that understanding nothing makes it cease to exist is philosophical.
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What the pattern means: A commenter spirals into a genuinely strange piece of folk philosophy, arguing that truly understanding 'nothing' as a concept somehow makes the emptiness between planets cease to exist once you grasp it.

Limit: This conclusion is presented as the commenter's own excited realization rather than anything resembling a physical claim about interplanetary space, which does actually contain sparse particles, plasma, and radiation.

It is no longer established that the entire Local Group must inevitably coalesce into one supergalaxy: current simulations leave the long-term Milky Way–Andromeda outcome open, with some flybys eventually merging and other trajectories remaining separate for very long times.
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What the pattern means: A commenter pushes back for clarification on the newly revised merger odds, asking whether '50% chance' refers to the originally proposed timeline or to whether a collision happens at all, ever, since their own understanding was that the whole Local Group eventually merges regardless.

Limit: Whether the entire Local Group inevitably coalesces into one supergalaxy is treated here as settled fact, when current simulations actually leave that long-term outcome open rather than certain.

Its mass distribution and local flows are inferred from galaxy distances and peculiar velocities after subtracting mean cosmic expansion, not simply from unexpected redshifts immediately above and below the galactic plane.
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What the pattern means: A commenter voices real skepticism about the tidy 'Great Attractor' narrative, wondering aloud whether it's just a flattering name for a couple of ordinary, oversized superclusters that happen to be hidden by our own galaxy's disk.

Limit: The suspicion that this is merely a rebranded, unremarkable supercluster undersells that the underlying evidence, unexpected redshift patterns above and below the galactic plane, is a real and specific observational signal, not just a naming choice.

JWST’s MIRI cryocooler uses pulse-tube precooling and helium Joule–Thomson expansion to reach about 6 kelvin
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What the pattern means: The original poster geeks out over an underappreciated piece of hardware, arguing JWST's cryocooler, built from thermoacoustics and vibration-canceling engineering most people never hear about, deserves as much credit as the famous discoveries it enabled.

What commenters described: Which has discovered: Surprisingly massive early galaxies, Direct detection of carbon chemistry on exoplanets, Detection of extremely ancient black holes, and watching stars literally form out of dust.

Laniakea was defined from reconstructed peculiar-velocity flow lines and a watershed boundary, with flows converging toward the Great Attractor region; the Great Attractor is an extended flow and density region rather than simply the single densest volume of space.
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What the pattern means: A commenter draws a clean membership rule for Laniakea, that everything gravitationally flowing toward the Great Attractor counts as part of the supercluster, while the Attractor itself is simply wherever that flow's matter is most densely packed.

What commenters described: The Great Attractor is just the most dense volume of space around here.

Large-scale distances between comoving galaxies increase, and observations show that the cosmic expansion rate has accelerated in the recent universe.
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What the pattern means: The same self-doubting math-background commenter lands, almost despite themselves, on a genuinely accurate point: that the growth in distance between any two points isn't just happening, it's happening faster and faster over cosmic time.

What commenters described: The space between any two objects in the universe is always growing, and it's happening faster and faster.

Light takes about 8 minutes 19 seconds to travel one astronomical unit, the mean Earth–Sun distance, so the reply’s “over 8 minutes” is correct.
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What the pattern means: A commenter uses the Sun-to-Earth light delay as their personal go-to gauge for cosmic scale, noting that even this shortest meaningful astronomical distance already stretches past eight minutes at light speed.

What commenters described: It really puts into perspective how far away things in our own solar system is from us, so I can't even fathom just how far things are outside of it.

Motion is relative, but it is not meaningless: statements about motion become well-defined once a reference frame is specified, such as motion relative to the Sun, Galactic center, or cosmic microwave background.
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What the pattern means: A commenter takes relativity's 'motion is relative' idea further than physicists actually do, concluding that any claim about the galaxy or solar system moving is essentially meaningless without qualification.

Limit: Motion being relative doesn't make statements about it meaningless; they just require specifying a reference frame, such as relative to the Sun, the galactic center, or the cosmic microwave background.

No evidence supports replacing the Great Attractor with a globally rotating universe whose center lies beyond observation; large-scale rotation models are constrained by the near-isotropy of cosmological observations, while local peculiar flows are explained by measured mass structure.
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What the pattern means: A commenter floats a genuinely creative alternative to the Great Attractor, that we might all be swept along by a universe-wide rotation centered somewhere beyond what we can ever observe, rather than being pulled toward any single mass.

Limit: This rotating-universe idea has no supporting evidence offered here, and large-scale rotation models generally have to contend with how uniform the universe looks in every direction, which current observations constrain tightly.

Numerically interpolating between two measurements can estimate a parameter more finely than the sampling interval under a model, but it does not create physical evidence of sub-Planck structure or bypass probe and uncertainty limits.
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What the pattern means: The same detailed optics explainer closes on a forward-looking technical aside, suggesting that once instruments can resolve Planck-length-scale measurements, clever interpolation between two data points might squeeze out finer values still.

Limit: Mathematically interpolating between two measurements would estimate a parameter more precisely under a model; it wouldn't constitute actual physical evidence of structure smaller than the Planck length.

Observations are consistent with a universe that may be spatially infinite, but infinity has not been established; the observable universe is finite because signals have had finite time to reach us and expansion creates horizons.
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What the pattern means: A commenter carefully hedges their biggest claim, that the universe itself may already be infinite, framing it as merely what the evidence 'sure looks like' rather than something settled.

Limit: Whether the universe is truly infinite in extent remains unestablished; only the finite, light-travel-limited observable universe is something we can actually measure.

Order-of-magnitude comparisons put both the observable universe’s star count and Earth’s sand-grain count near 10^21–10^24 depending on assumptions; current NASA estimates can yield more stars than grains, so “as many” is a memorable approximation rather than a precise equality.
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What the pattern means: A commenter repeats a popular, memorable comparison as though it were an exact equivalence, pairing the star count of the visible universe one-to-one against every grain of sand on Earth.

Limit: Both quantities are rough order-of-magnitude estimates rather than precisely counted totals, so 'as many as' functions as a memorable approximation, not a measured equality.

Rejecting the hot Big Bang as belief does not address its evidence: cosmic expansion, the cosmic microwave background, and primordial light-element abundances are independent observations explained by the model, while future revision would still need to account for them.
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What the pattern means: A commenter rejects the Big Bang as a matter of personal belief rather than evidence, predicting today's cosmologists will look as quaint to future generations as flat-earthers do now, while explicitly declining to engage with any counterargument.

Limit: Framing the Big Bang as a belief to accept or reject sidesteps the actual independent lines of evidence, cosmic expansion, the microwave background, and light-element abundances, that any competing model would still have to explain.

Relativity has no absolute stationary location that Earth leaves behind; any hypothetical time machine would need a specified spacetime trajectory or reference frame, so subtracting 100 years of Earth’s travel is not a universal missing term.
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What the pattern means: A commenter imagines time travel going wrong in a specifically spatial way, picturing a machine that sends you back a century but strands you eleven billion miles from where Earth actually was at that moment.

Limit: This assumes some universal fixed backdrop that Earth 'left behind,' when relativity provides no such absolute stationary location; any real time-travel scenario would need its own defined spacetime trajectory instead.

Special relativity sets c as the local speed limit for matter and information, making much of the observable universe unreachable even in principle because of distance and cosmic horizons.
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What the pattern means: The same commenter frames the speed of light less as an engineering hurdle and more as a permanent ceiling, arguing it locks humanity out of ever meaningfully reaching most of the visible universe no matter how propulsion technology improves.

What commenters described: C may be a hard limit, and thus we can never reach a meaningful amount of the visible universe.

Special relativity’s invariant speed limit constrains local transfer of matter, energy, and information, but a universal speed limit is not empirical evidence that the universe is a computer simulation.
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What the pattern means: A commenter recounts a public figure's simulation-theory reasoning, stacking the Planck length's apparent pixel-like quality, the speed-of-light ceiling, and observer-dependent quantum effects together as supporting evidence.

Limit: None of these individually cited facts, a minimum length scale, a universal speed limit, or observation-linked quantum behavior, actually constitutes evidence that the universe is a simulation rather than simply how physics works.

Standard cosmological expansion does not require the universe to expand into an external space; the model describes increasing distances within spacetime, and it does not establish a physical outside or boundary.
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What the pattern means: A commenter admits defeat gracefully rather than resolving the puzzle, concluding that 'outside the universe,' 'before time began,' and 'true nothing' are all concepts human brains just aren't built to hold, more a limit of cognition than of physics.

What commenters described: It's expanding into itself. The space between things is getting bigger. There is no 'outside' when in relation to the universe.

Standard cosmology does not posit an external place into which the universe expands, so “we do not know what it expands into” frames an unnecessary premise rather than a measured unknown exterior.
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What the pattern means: A commenter refuses to even speculate on what the universe might be expanding into, treating the entire question as permanently and perhaps unknowably open rather than trying to force an answer.

What commenters described: It could be nothing. It could be something. It could be everything. No one knows, and it's unlikely we can ever know.

That inclination does not mean the Solar System moves through the Galaxy “south-pole first”: the Sun has galactic orbital motion plus a local peculiar velocity, and its direction is not simply one ecliptic pole.
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What the pattern means: A commenter reasons from the Milky Way's position in the night sky to a striking conclusion, that because it doesn't sit along the horizon, we must be moving through space 'south pole first' relative to the galactic plane.

Limit: This treats the Sun's motion as a single simple direction tied to one ecliptic pole, when its actual path combines galactic orbital motion with its own local peculiar velocity.

The balloon surface is deliberately a lower-dimensional analogy: its purpose is to show intrinsic expansion and finite-without-edge geometry, not to claim that physical space is literally a two-dimensional rubber surface.
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What the pattern means: A commenter voices flat frustration with the go-to teaching tool of this entire thread, insisting the dimensional mismatch between a 2D balloon surface and our 3D universe makes the whole analogy fail to click for them.

Limit: The complaint takes the balloon's surface literally as a dimension-matching claim, when it's meant only to illustrate intrinsic, centerless expansion rather than assert space is actually two-dimensional.

The comment correctly separates sensory time perception from physical time: neural processing can vary without changing elapsed spacetime.
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What the pattern means: The same long optics comment draws a distinction worth isolating on its own, that differences in how fast organisms process sensory input are a perception effect rooted in nervous-system latency, not any actual change in the flow of physical time.

What commenters described: The perception change isn't a change in time itself, just a perception variance amongst organisms.

The Great Attractor involves ordinary gravity, but “everything orbits” is false: reconstructed galaxy motions are flow lines in an expanding universe, not necessarily closed orbits.
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What the pattern means: A commenter objects to treating the Great Attractor as uniquely mysterious, arguing that everything in the universe orbits something and that this pull is no different in kind from any other massive body's gravity.

Limit: Reconstructed galaxy motions here are better described as flow lines within an expanding universe rather than closed orbital paths, so 'everything orbits' overstates the parallel.

The Great Attractor is an extended gravitational-flow region associated with the mass distribution of Laniakea and nearby structures, not a magical suction object; Vela is a separate massive supercluster in the Zone of Avoidance whose exact contribution to larger-scale flows requires mapping.
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What the pattern means: A commenter tries to deflate the Great Attractor's mystique by name-checking the actual structures behind it, ordinary gravity from surrounding superclusters like Vela and the broader Laniakea structure, hard to measure only because of where they sit in the sky.

What commenters described: Its the gravity of Our surrounding super clusters like vela and the large scale structure of laniakea.

The Great Attractor is an observed mass-concentration region inside the observable universe, and measured local galaxy flows do not establish an immense hidden source beyond the observable universe pulling everything toward one forever-undetectable point.
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What the pattern means: A commenter one-ups the Great Attractor's mystery with an even spookier hypothetical, an entirely separate, far more massive gravitational source sitting permanently beyond the observable universe and forever undetectable.

Limit: This escalates well past what local galaxy-flow measurements actually show, which point to mass concentrations within the observable universe rather than evidence of an undetectable exterior source.

The Great Attractor lies near the Milky Way’s zone of avoidance and is difficult to observe optically, but it is an extended mass-concentration region including known clusters rather than one of two mysterious point objects aligned by coincidence.
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What the pattern means: The same suspicious commenter zeroes in on the coincidence of two named 'great attractor' objects both sitting conveniently along the galactic plane, wondering if that's simply where our own dust happens to hide things rather than anything genuinely unusual.

Limit: The redshift anomalies above and below the galactic plane are a real, specific observational signal pointing to genuine mass concentrations, not merely a naming coincidence born from where our galaxy blocks the view.

The Great Attractor region contains clusters and galaxies rather than only hundreds of millions of stars; the full Laniakea flow basin was estimated at about 100,000 large galaxies and 10^17 solar masses, so the comment vastly understates the scale.
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What the pattern means: A commenter answers a question about the Great Attractor's makeup with a number that undersells it by many orders of magnitude, describing 'hundreds of millions of stars' where the actual flow basin involves something closer to a hundred thousand galaxies.

Limit: Hundreds of millions of stars is a dramatic underestimate; the broader Laniakea flow basin has been estimated at roughly 100,000 large galaxies representing an enormously greater total mass.

The Great Attractor region participates in cosmic recession while local gravity produces a smaller peculiar motion toward its basin; describing the present separation as increasing can be consistent with these combined velocities, but it does not mean gravity has stopped acting.
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What the pattern means: A commenter captures the counterintuitive heart of the whole Great Attractor story in one line, that the gap between us and it is actually widening even as its gravity keeps drawing us inward.

What commenters described: The amount of room between it and us is actually increasing faster than we're moving towards it!

The Hubble constant is measured by several methods, but locally calibrated distance-ladder results and early-universe inferences remain in statistically significant disagreement—the Hubble tension—so “uncertainty” here includes method-dependent disagreement, not a lack of observation.
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What the pattern means: A commenter cites a well-known example of scientific uncertainty to make a broader point, noting that even a foundational number like the Hubble constant still carries real, unresolved disagreement among measurement methods.

What commenters described: There are other things we've observed that still have a great deal of uncertainty surrounding them, like the Hubble constant.

The Hubble tension is a persistent disagreement between locally calibrated expansion-rate measurements and values inferred from early-universe data under ΛCDM; it does not mean all measurements of the universe’s composition simply disagree.
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What the pattern means: The same Hubble-tension commenter widens the point into a caution about the standard cosmological model itself, noting that the datasets underpinning it don't fully agree with each other and that the disagreement is only growing.

Limit: This is presented as an open, worsening puzzle rather than a settled explanation, with the commenter conceding 'the reasons for that are still up for grabs.'

The idea that our universe is the interior of a black hole embedded in a larger universe is speculative and is not established by observations or standard Big Bang cosmology.
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What the pattern means: A commenter nests our universe inside an even bigger one, imagining it as the interior of a giant black hole expanding into a further, almost unfathomably larger surrounding reality, while admitting upfront that the idea only 'helps' if you don't think about it too hard.

Limit: The commenter's own closing admission undercuts the claim: this is offered as a personal mental image rather than something grounded in observation or standard cosmology.

The latest Hubble-and-Gaia analysis found roughly a 50-50 chance that the Milky Way and Andromeda merge within the next 10 billion years, not a universal 50% chance of ever merging.
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What the pattern means: A commenter puts real numbers on the once-certain Andromeda collision, downgrading it to roughly a coin-flip likelihood while also pointing out that even a full merger would go unnoticed by most planets given how sparse galaxies actually are inside.

What commenters described: We now think there's only a 50% chance for a collision.

The metre–picometre–kilometre example correctly shows that ordinary absolute distance and ratio-based scale comparisons can rank closeness differently; a percentage comparison supports multiplicative closeness, not automatically absolute closeness.
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What the pattern means: A commenter lays out the meter-kilometer-picometer math step by step to show that a bigger percentage share of a range doesn't automatically mean 'closer' in absolute terms, directly rebutting an opponent's ratio-based reasoning with plain arithmetic.

What commenters described: That A is a larger percentage of a set than B does not make A closer to the whole of the set than A is to B.

The Milky Way has a peculiar velocity toward the Great Attractor region, but whether it will ever “arrive” is not captured by a swimmer-in-a-river analogy: Laniakea is a reconstructed flow basin and is not necessarily gravitationally bound as one future-collapsing object.
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What the pattern means: A commenter's river-and-sandwich metaphor makes an oddly satisfying case for why we'll likely never reach the Great Attractor, casting our galaxy as a hungry swimmer losing ground to a current that only gets stronger with time.

Limit: The swimmer-in-a-river picture assumes the Great Attractor functions like a single fixed destination, when Laniakea is really a reconstructed flow basin rather than one gravitationally bound object we could ever 'arrive' at.

The Milky Way is about 100,000 light-years across, so light takes roughly 100,000 years to cross its stellar disk.
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What the pattern means: A commenter turns a nearby wall into an impromptu galaxy model, asking readers to imagine a light beam crossing it and taking a hundred thousand years to reach the other side, all at light speed.

What commenters described: There's a light beam released from one end towards the other end. It will reach its destination in about 100,000 years.

The observable universe was once much hotter and denser, but saying everything visible occupied a basketball-sized region is not a generally valid statement without specifying an epoch and cosmological model; the Big Bang was not an explosion from a little ball into pre-existing space.
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What the pattern means: A commenter is still visibly awed by the idea that everything currently visible in the night sky, galaxies and all, was once packed into something no bigger than a basketball or beach ball.

Limit: This basketball-sized comparison only applies to a specific, unspecified early epoch under a particular cosmological model, not as a general standalone fact about the universe's history.

The Planck length is a natural unit constructed from fundamental constants and marks a scale where quantum-gravity effects are expected to matter; no experiment establishes that spacetime is made of Planck-sized pixels.
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What the pattern means: The same secondhand Elon Musk retelling treats the Planck length's apparent role as a minimum unit as if it settles the simulation question, without separating a mathematically derived scale from actual proof that spacetime is pixelated.

Limit: No experiment has established that spacetime is built from discrete Planck-sized units; the Planck length is a theoretical construct from fundamental constants, not a measured pixel size.

The Shapley Concentration is a major mass concentration beyond the Great Attractor and contributes to the Local Group’s large-scale peculiar motion, but describing the whole of Laniakea as being pulled toward one larger “attractor” compresses a reconstructed, multi-source velocity field into a single-object picture.
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What the pattern means: A commenter zooms out past the Great Attractor entirely, naming the larger Shapley Concentration as the thing pulling the whole Laniakea Supercluster and leaning on that scale to convey just how 'mindbreakingly' vast the universe really is.

What commenters described: The entire Laniakea Supercluster is being pulled towards it.

The solar system does move through the Milky Way: the Sun orbits the galactic center at about 720,000 km/h and carries the planets with it, completing an orbit in roughly 230 million years; removed-link animations cannot be assessed for geometric accuracy.
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What the pattern means: A commenter shares a video meant to reframe how people picture the solar system, describing planets not as sitting still in neat orbits but as being dragged rapidly through space alongside the Sun's own motion.

Limit: The claim rests on an unreviewable linked animation, so its specific visual accuracy can't be independently checked from the comment alone.

The time-travel scenario incorrectly assumes an absolute position in space; position and simultaneity depend on the chosen reference frame, so ordinary orbital speeds do not establish where a hypothetical traveler would reappear.
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What the pattern means: A commenter constructs a darkly funny time-travel scenario where jumping back a single minute strands you over a million kilometers from Earth's actual position, and therefore dead in the vacuum of space.

Limit: This assumes time travel would return you to a fixed absolute point in space, when position and simultaneity in relativity always depend on which reference frame you choose.

The total universe may be finite or infinite; observations constrain the observable region but do not establish the global size asserted by casual spatial metaphors.
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What the pattern means: The same bleak far-future comment leaves the universe's ultimate size genuinely open, noting space might not even be finite, while still landing on a specific, isolating endgame of galaxy clusters drifting apart into eternal emptiness.

Limit: Whether the total universe is finite or infinite remains unresolved; only the observable region is something current measurements actually constrain.

The Zone of Avoidance is most severe in visible light because Milky Way dust and crowded foreground stars obscure background galaxies, while infrared, radio, and X-ray observations can penetrate or bypass different parts of that obstruction; it is not exclusively a visible-spectrum problem.
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What the pattern means: A commenter deflates the mystery further by noting X-ray observations can already see past the dust that blocks visible light, crediting a since-90s identification of the Great Attractor with the mundane Norma cluster and its surrounding structures.

What commenters described: X-ray observations can see through it. And since around the late 90s we're pretty sure that the Great Attractor is the Norma cluster.

The Zone of Avoidance is the region where foreground Milky Way dust and stars hinder extragalactic observations, especially in visible light; it is not wholly unobservable at other wavelengths.
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What the pattern means: A commenter takes issue with the name itself rather than the science, joking that 'Zone of Avoidance' promises far more menace than a patch of sky obscured by our own galaxy's dust actually delivers.

Limit: The name describes an observational limitation specific mainly to visible light, not a region that's mysterious or unobservable at every wavelength.

There is no observational evidence that the universe forms a self-similar loop of nested galaxies and observers; measured matter becomes statistically homogeneous on sufficiently large scales rather than repeating the same structures at every scale.
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What the pattern means: A commenter spins out a genuinely trippy fractal-universe daydream, imagining zooming down through identical nested galaxies and stars until you'd spot a tiny scientist, and maybe even yourself, staring back through a microscope.

Limit: There's no observational evidence for this kind of self-similar looping structure; matter is instead found to smooth out into statistical uniformity at sufficiently large scales rather than repeating itself.

Traveling in one direction and returning to the starting point would require a particular compact global topology; observations have not established that topology, and infinite travel speed is not physically allowed.
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What the pattern means: A commenter pictures a looping video-game map with wraparound edges to explain traveling in one direction and eventually returning to your starting point, treating infinite speed as the only thing standing between the idea and reality.

Limit: Looping back to your start would require a specific compact topology that hasn't been established, and infinite travel speed isn't something physics permits regardless.

Uniform straight-line motion is locally indistinguishable from rest without reference to something external, but Earth, the Solar System, and the Galaxy also undergo rotational and orbital acceleration, so “we are not accelerating” is not generally true.
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What the pattern means: A commenter leans on relativity's equivalence of constant motion and rest to argue we're effectively motionless despite constantly moving, treating the observation as a settled, almost soothing bit of physics trivia.

Limit: Earth, the solar system, and the galaxy all undergo real rotational and orbital acceleration, so the claim that 'we are not accelerating' doesn't actually hold in general.

Using a two-dimensional surface to represent three-dimensional curved space is a standard dimensional analogy because the higher-dimensional embedding is hard to visualize; the analogy remains limited and adds no physical interior or exterior.
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What the pattern means: A commenter defends the balloon analogy's dimensional mismatch as an unavoidable trade-off, arguing our brains simply aren't wired to picture higher-dimensional curved space directly, so a flattened stand-in is the best available option.

What commenters described: That's exactly why we use an analogy, because high dimensional space is not something our brains can handle very well.

Using approximate scales of 1 metre, 10^-35 metres, and 10^27 metres, the logarithmic gaps are about 35 and 27 orders of magnitude respectively, so a human is roughly eight orders of magnitude closer to the observable-universe scale on a ratio or log scale.
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What the pattern means: A commenter accuses an opponent of obscuring basic math, then lays out the actual orders of magnitude explicitly, roughly 35 powers of ten down to the Planck length and 27 powers of ten up to the observable universe, to argue humans sit meaningfully closer to the cosmic end of the scale.

What commenters described: The size of a human is about 1 m, the size of the Planck length is about 10^-35 meters, and the size of the observable universe is about 10^27 meters.

Velocities can be nested and transformed between reference frames—for example walking inside a moving train, Earth orbiting the Sun, and blood moving relative to the body—but relativity does not combine high speeds by simple unlimited addition.
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What the pattern means: A commenter extends a nested-motion thought experiment inward rather than outward, pointing to blood cells moving through the body or a person walking on a moving train as everyday examples of velocities stacking on top of each other.

Limit: Simply adding these nested velocities together works fine at everyday speeds, but relativity doesn't let speeds combine by ordinary addition once any of them approach the speed of light.

Velocity and acceleration are different quantities, but it does not follow that an object necessarily moves toward the Great Attractor faster merely because it is closer; the net trajectory combines cosmic expansion and a spatially varying gravitational field.
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What the pattern means: A commenter revisits an earlier claim almost as a citation, quoting back the point that proximity to the Great Attractor comes with acceleration rather than constant velocity.

Limit: Being closer and therefore accelerating faster doesn't by itself determine an object's net trajectory, which also depends on cosmic expansion and the surrounding gravitational field's shape.

Vision always samples the past because light takes time to travel
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What the pattern means: The original poster reframes an ordinary fact about light-travel delay into something quietly unsettling, that literally nothing we ever see, including the Sun itself, is happening in the true present moment.

What commenters described: Everything we see is actually a glimpse into the past.

Voyager 1 crossed the heliopause into interstellar space in 2012 after about 35 years, but it has not left the gravitationally defined solar system and may take about 30,000 years to pass beyond the Oort Cloud.
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What the pattern means: The same interstellar-trade skeptic uses Voyager 1's real trajectory as their central evidence, noting it took decades just to exit the solar system and would need millennia more to reach anywhere else.

Limit: Voyager 1 crossed the heliopause into interstellar space in 2012, but it hasn't left the Sun's gravitational domain and is expected to take roughly 30,000 more years to clear the Oort Cloud.

Voyager measured the heliopause, a plasma and magnetic-field boundary between the heliosphere and interstellar space; it is not a solid or plastic-like shell.
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What the pattern means: A commenter leans into a playful 'vinyl frontier' pun to describe Voyager's discovery of a boundary around the solar system, evoking a physical, almost tactile image of the heliopause.

Limit: The heliopause is a boundary defined by plasma density and magnetic field changes between the heliosphere and interstellar space, not a solid or plastic-like shell.

Whether backward time travel or teleportation of people is physically possible is not established by the orbital-speed arithmetic offered here.
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What the pattern means: The same one-minute time-jump scenario doubles as an argument about teleportation specifically, treating the deadly outcome of 'reappearing' in the wrong spot as proof that moving people instantly through space could never work, even if backward time travel someday does.

Limit: The orbital-speed math used to strand the traveler in deep space rests on assuming a single fixed background position, which relativity doesn't actually provide.

Whether time itself began at the earliest cosmological boundary, whether a prior phase existed, and whether “before” is meaningful are open questions; presenting “no before” as certain goes beyond what current observations establish.
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What the pattern means: The same 'our brains can't handle it' comment treats the absence of a 'before the beginning of time' as an established impossibility rather than an open question, folding it in with other ideas the commenter finds equally incomprehensible.

Limit: Whether time itself began at the earliest cosmological boundary, or whether some prior phase existed, remains genuinely unresolved, so presenting 'no before' as settled goes further than current cosmology actually claims.

“The edge of the solar system” has multiple definitions, so the claimed 1.5-year travel time is not meaningful without naming the boundary.
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What the pattern means: The same speed-ladder comment tosses off '1.5 years to reach the edge of our solar system' as if that boundary were a single agreed-upon line, when in practice which edge you mean changes the answer considerably.

Limit: 'Edge of the solar system' has several competing definitions, from the heliopause to the Oort Cloud, so the 1.5-year figure means little without specifying which boundary is intended.

“The gaps between things are getting bigger” is a useful shorthand for metric expansion between sufficiently separated, gravitationally unbound regions; bound systems and local peculiar motions do not simply scale with cosmic expansion.
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What the pattern means: A commenter offers a small but genuinely clarifying rewording, suggesting it's less accurate to say the universe is 'expanding' than to say the gaps between things are simply getting bigger.

What commenters described: It's less that it's expanding, and more that the gaps between things are getting bigger.

Hot-Big-Bang cosmology describes early expansion from a dense state; it does not experimentally show the universe came from philosophical nothing
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What the pattern means: The original poster flattens a genuinely contested philosophical and physical question into a single confident-sounding line about the universe emerging from 'nothing,' without acknowledging how loaded that word is in cosmology.

Limit: Hot Big Bang cosmology describes an early expansion from an extremely dense, hot state; it doesn't experimentally demonstrate that the universe came from philosophical nothingness.

The two scale statements are not necessarily contradictory because “closer” needs a metric: in absolute metres, a human is vastly closer to a Planck length than to the universe’s diameter, while on a multiplicative or logarithmic scale the human lies closer to the universe scale.
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What the pattern means: A commenter catches a genuine internal contradiction between two of an opponent's own claims, then resolves it by pointing out both scale statements can be true at once, since 'closer' means something different depending on whether you're measuring by absolute distance or by ratio.

What commenters described: The difference between a human and the observable universe is roughly the size of the observable universe, so the rounding error goes both ways.

The Great Attractor is a massive region roughly 220 million light-years away that influences nearby galaxy motions; it is not a unique point from which the universe began.
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What the pattern means: Against a commenter's tidy theory that the Great Attractor marks the Big Bang's exact birthplace and eventual return point, the region is better described as an ordinary, if enormous, mass concentration roughly 220 million light-years away shaping nearby galaxy motion, not a cosmic point of origin.

Limit: Treating the Great Attractor as the Big Bang's literal single point of origin misreads a regional mass concentration as a cosmic starting line, which current evidence doesn't support.

A 700 km/s peculiar velocity is large relative to local galactic orbital speeds but small relative to light speed.
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What the pattern means: One reply anchors a 700 km/s speed against familiar cosmic benchmarks, noting it dwarfs both Earth's solar orbit and even the Sun's own trip around the Milky Way.

What commenters described: The sun is orbiting the Milky Way at 230Km/s. 700Km/s would therefore seem pretty fast as far as celestial objects go relative to our galaxy.

Impact simulations show Saturn’s icy ring particles may resist micrometeoroid pollution and therefore look younger than their true age, leaving room for an older-ring interpretation.
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What the pattern means: A reply complicates the tidy 'Saturn's rings are young' story, describing a newer self-cleaning model, backed by flyby data and simulations, that would let the rings be as old as the planet after all.

What commenters described: computer modeling using data from numerous flybys does support the hypothesis

Limit: I think the rings being young is still the predominant theory, but it's at least not as certain.

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Just the vastness of space. And that it’s expanding. Into what? Into nothing? That doesn’t work in my brain.

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Magnifying glasses focus multiple photons into a smaller space. Doesn't work if you're only observing one photon

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It reminds me of a race from The Orville that phased through time and had achieved immortality then played large scale holo games just to feel the thrill of almost certain death Ironically the first officer had become a God figure to this race early on in its tribal years just to almost die in one of their pranks

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In order to make a statistical argument, you need at least two data points. How many examples of perfectly simulated worlds do you have?

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I went through a lot of these and did not see simulation theory. You are likely a simulation being run by some other life form. Statistically this is the most likely reason for our existence.

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This category is dominated by a handful of recurring threads—especially the Great Attractor's pull on the Local Group and what cosmic expansion is ‘expanding into’—where commenters lean on competing analogies (balloon surfaces, stretched number lines, infinite hotels) and routinely catch each other's unit conversions and scale comparisons going wrong, like a 700 km/s figure alternately described as a fraction of Earth's orbital speed and as multiples of it. A meaningful slice of this round's changes were pure recategorization: threads about gamma-ray-burst hazard math, Saturn's ring age, and the Crab Nebula's expansion speed had previously been filed under Earth-science or math categories despite being squarely astronomical, and now sit correctly here.

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Quantum, particles, and relativity133 index entries · 333 source recordsQuantum, particles, and relativity — 133 named claims/discoveries, 354 source records
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ATLAS and CMS discovered a Higgs boson in 2012, confirming the field mechanism that gives masses to elementary W/Z bosons and fermions—but not most visible-matter mass
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What the pattern means: Reactions ranged from half-remembered mockery ('the god damn particle') to a commenter whose own physics professor worked on the ATLAS detector that helped confirm the discovery. The clearest explanation in the thread is also careful to note the field doesn't account for most of the mass in the universe -- it just keeps fundamental particles like electrons from zooming off at light speed.

What commenters described: these particles move through/interact with the field, and that gives them mass, meaning they don't just zoom off massless at the speed of light

Limit: Not ALL mass in the universe comes from the Higgs-Field, but without it matter would not be able to exist.

Motion and gravity measurably change elapsed time: ISS astronauts age slightly less than people on Earth, higher clocks tick faster, and faster inertial motion yields less proper time
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What the pattern means: Time dilation triggers the densest cluster of one-line 'this blows my mind' replies in the set, but the more detailed answers ground it in specifics: ISS clocks lagging Earth clocks, mountaintop clocks ticking faster than sea-level ones, and the exponential energy cost of pushing mass toward light speed.

What commenters described: My feet are aging more slowly than my head.

Limit: One reply pushes back on the intuitive framing, noting that how a person subjectively "feels" time pass isn't itself altered by speed — the effect only shows up when clocks are compared.

Adding familiar terrestrial, orbital, and galactic speeds does not put a seated person near light speed; velocities depend on reference frame and remain far below c in these examples.
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What the pattern means: A joke about stacking Earth's rotation, orbital, and galactic speeds together to reach relativistic velocity while sitting still lands as a punchline precisely because those speeds don't simply add across different reference frames the way the setup implies.

What commenters described: that all adds up to me...sitting on the toilet....actually going near the speed of light.

The Standard Model contains six quark flavors: up, down, charm, strange, top, and bottom
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What the pattern means: Amid heavier threads, one commenter just appreciates the naming: physicists gave quarks six 'flavors' — up, down, charm, strange, top, and bottom — a small reminder that even foundational particle physics has room for playful terminology.

What commenters described: I'm glad the researchers are at least having fun with the terminology, like the flavors of quarks (up, down, charm, strange, top, and bottom).

Physical “laws” and symmetry principles are empirically inferred models rather than legislative commands, but spatial and temporal invariance are repeatedly tested through precision observations; they are constrained assumptions, not arbitrary untested guesses.
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What the pattern means: Physical 'laws,' one reply argues, are assumptions we've never actually verified rather than confirmed facts -- we assume invariance across space and time without knowing it holds -- and the commenter points to a disputed FTL-communication proposal answering Bell's Theorem as reason to keep the assumption open.

What commenters described: We don't know they never change, we assume it. We don't know they are the same everywhere in space and time, we assume it.

Limit: The comment treats invariance as an unproven assumption rather than a repeatedly tested constraint, and leans on a disputed FTL-communication argument rather than mainstream consensus.

False-vacuum decay is hypothetical, and its lifetime or probability is model-dependent; the comment cannot establish that the chance of a bubble reaching Earth within a human lifetime is minuscule.
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What the pattern means: The reassurance offered here — that a false-vacuum bubble would need to start improbably close to the Milky Way to reach us anytime soon — rests on reasoning about cosmic expansion and distance, not on any actual measured probability that decay is likely to begin nearby at all.

Neither the uncertainty principle nor blackbody radiation proves that structures smaller than the Planck length are impossible; that conclusion overreaches what those observations establish.
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What the pattern means: The argument here leaps from 'we've measured quantum effects with extraordinary precision' to treating any smaller-scale physics as requiring the universe to be 'lying to us,' which is rhetorical confidence standing in for an actual proof that sub-Planck structure is impossible.

Entanglement produces Bell-inequality-violating correlations across distance, but no controllable information or physical influence is sent faster than light
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What the pattern means: Most posters lean on Einstein's own line for this one, describing entangled particles as staying correlated no matter the distance between them, but the more careful replies interrupt to clarify that nothing measurable ever crosses that gap faster than light, and one detailed rebuttal adds that the correlated state itself is usually fragile, lasting nanoseconds to at most a couple of minutes.

What commenters described: Two particles can be linked in a way that measuring one instantly determines the state of the other, even across the universe.

Limit: There is no information exchanged between entangled particles, nothing happens “faster than light”... it's a temporary state, typically nanoseconds.

Many string-theory models require additional compact spatial dimensions, but neither string theory nor those dimensions have experimental confirmation
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What the pattern means: In a single terse line, one commenter treats string theory's extra compact dimensions as settled fact, describing them as spatial dimensions the math requires but that we simply cannot perceive, without flagging that the underlying framework itself still lacks experimental confirmation.

What commenters described: The math of string theory suggests there are many extra dimensions which we cannot perceive.

Some coordinate recession speeds, moving light spots, or phase/group velocities can exceed c without matter, energy, or locally causal information outrunning light
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What the pattern means: In a single line, one commenter captures the whiplash of learning that some things do outrun light after all, quickly adding the crucial caveat that it only happens on a technicality — a nod to coordinate speeds, moving light spots, and phase or group velocities rather than anything physically or causally exceeding the limit.

What commenters described: you learn some things do move faster than our universal speed limit, but only under a technicality

A beech marten caused an electrical short that shut down part of CERN's LHC in April 2016; claims that it changed reality or split a timeline are jokes
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What the pattern means: This whole exchange is two lines of confusion resolved by a one-sentence explanation, a beech marten tripped a short at CERN in 2016, followed by everyone treating the 'timeline split' framing as an obvious joke rather than a real physics claim.

What commenters described: Spring 2016 a weasel shut down operations at the Large Hadron Collider and people think it altered reality. The full term is "Weasel Timeline Theory".

Planck’s constant is not a distance and cannot be called the shortest measurable length; the Planck length is a derived scale many orders below current experimental resolution.
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What the pattern means: One commenter conflates the practical limits of current instruments with an actual physical boundary, describing Planck's constant as though it marks 'the shortest we can actually measure' rather than the much smaller derived length scale it really implies.

Strangelets are hypothetical droplets of strange quark matter; none has been confirmed
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What the pattern means: The entire record is a single unadorned word, 'Strangelets,' dropped with no explanation that they remain a hypothetical form of matter nobody has ever actually detected.

Maxwell's equations unify classical electricity, magnetism and light, with optical behavior also depending on matter and boundary conditions
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What the pattern means: The commenter's amazement is specifically about compression: four differential statements about curl and divergence at the infinitesimal level are enough to rigorously derive the whole of geometric optics, a scale mismatch they still find "freaky" despite the physics being over a century old.

What commenters described: all of geometric optics can be rigorously derived from 4 differential statements that define the curl and divergence of fields at the infinitesimal level

False-vacuum decay is a theoretical possibility, not an observed discovery
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What the pattern means: The false-vacuum idea gets carried over almost verbatim from a chemistry thread about drug crystal forms, and one reader connects it to a novel where stars start blinking out one by one as the opening sign of exactly this kind of cosmic phase change.

Limit: the entire universe as we know it might be in a false vacuum

Bell-test violations rule out broad classes of local hidden-variable models but do not provide a usable faster-than-light communication channel; without a preserved technical source and experimental demonstration, the linked popular proposal cannot establish workable FTL communication.
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What the pattern means: A commenter leans on the idea that physical laws are assumptions rather than proven constants to argue faster-than-light communication might still be possible, pointing to an outside popular-science source rather than laying out the mechanism themselves.

General relativity predicts gravitational time dilation, with clocks at different gravitational potentials ticking at different rates, but this does not establish that cosmic voids grow because their time runs faster while filaments are “bogged down.”
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What the pattern means: A commenter reaches for real gravitational time dilation to explain why cosmic voids seem to swell faster than dense filaments, attributing the growth gap to time itself running quicker where gravity is weaker.

Under ordinary Lorentz-invariant signaling assumptions, superluminal exchange permits causal loops, although alternative models can attempt to add preferred frames or other restrictions; “any framing” is therefore broader than the standard result.
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What the pattern means: The same reluctant FTL skeptic returns to underline the deeper stakes, that breaking the light-speed limit under standard assumptions doesn't just enable fast travel, it opens the door to a genuinely non-causal universe.

Quantum fields have vacuum fluctuations and virtual processes with measurable effects, but “staring closely” would not reveal particles literally appearing and simultaneously destroying themselves; virtual quanta are not directly observable transient objects.
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What the pattern means: A commenter takes real quantum vacuum activity and turns it into something closer to a visual party trick, suggesting you could actually watch a particle wink into and out of existence just by staring closely enough.

That causal conflict is strong evidence against ordinary Lorentz-invariant FTL signaling, but it is not a deductive proof that every conceivable future theory must forbid every effective superluminal phenomenon; “never will be possible” exceeds the empirical result.
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What the pattern means: A commenter shuts down any further FTL speculation with blunt finality, treating the causality argument as closed-case proof and dismissing every hypothetical, unknown technology, alien science, or gaps in current physics, as equally impossible.

Every inertial observer measures the same vacuum light speed c, and no massive traveler can reach c; Lorentz transformation—not ordinary velocity addition—reconciles the measurements
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What the pattern means: One commenter works through the flashlight-on-a-relativistic-ship puzzle step by step, showing that time dilation and length contraction, rather than a broken speed limit, are what keep the beam clocking at c for both riders.

What commenters described: the faster you go, the stronger time dilatation becomes, so even if you go at 99.99999% of the speed of light, light woud STILL look lightspeed to you

Electroweak-vacuum metastability and bubble decay are theoretical possibilities sensitive to particle parameters and unknown high-energy physics, not an observed small everyday risk
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What the pattern means: Multiple commenters describe false vacuum decay less as physics and more as an intrusive thought, a universe-ending event that could already be racing toward Earth at light speed with zero warning.

What commenters described: I remember first learning about false vacuum decay. Absolutely didn't help my anxiety disorder...

Limit: The estimated value is just low enough that we are probably okay, but we are unsure if it's the true minimum.

Wireless communication transmits information by electromagnetic waves
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What the pattern means: The thread barely engages the physics of wireless transmission at all; after a nod to Tesla's Wardenclyffe ambitions it drifts into unrelated jokes about ducks and invented 'cable theory,' leaving the actual claim mostly unexamined.

What commenters described: wait till you hear about wireless power transmission

Limit: Her history in that is actually greatly exaggerated

In quantum mechanics an observation means a physical measurement interaction, not a sentient mind looking; accounts of wave-function collapse depend on interpretation
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What the pattern means: Several replies push back hard on the pop-science 'consciousness collapses the wave function' framing, insisting a single photon bouncing off a particle counts as an observation with no mind required.

What commenters described: A single photon interacting with a particle is enough to be considered observed.

Limit: The idea that it's lookin at it that causes the collapse is completely incomprehensible and bizarre while the idea that touching it causes the collapse is something you can actually sort of understand.

Spin–charge or orbital separation in special solids creates collective quasiparticles; it does not show that a free electron is composed of three fundamental particles
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What the pattern means: A detailed reply on splitting electron spin and charge in special solids is careful to note physicists call the results quasiparticles, not new fundamental particles, and that the effect only survives briefly under extreme lab conditions.

What commenters described: someone else has managed to separate the charge, to form a third constituent “particle”. Saw it on a Smithsonian Channel program

Limit: particle physicists are at this point calling these constituent quantum bits of the electron "quasiparticles", not new fundamental particles, and point out they can only be separated from each other for a short time

Dark matter and dark energy name evidence-backed unresolved phenomena; they do not by themselves show that general relativity has failed
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What the pattern means: A long back-and-forth debates whether dark matter and dark energy are 'facts' or convenient placeholder labels, with one side insisting observations are hard data and the other arguing every measurement is theory-laden.

What commenters described: This explanation just requires the fewest caveats, has the most evidence, and makes the best predictions.

Limit: dark energy and dark matter, for example, are kinda just unknowns that we slapped labels on and said "It works if we include this."

Quantum tunneling is real, but a person falling through a floor by all constituent particles aligning or tunneling together has no meaningful physical probability
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What the pattern means: Commenters run with the idea that a person could quantum-tunnel through a floor, landing on a wildly small but nonzero probability before agreeing it would never happen even given the entire lifespan of the universe.

What commenters described: There is a 1 in 10 Undecillion chance that your atoms will align perfectly with the floor and you'll fall though.

Limit: even if every person spent their entire lives jumping up and down all throughout time it would never happen, its just technically possible but so unlikely its basically impossible

Quantum mechanics is extraordinarily predictive, while a complete tested quantum theory of gravity remains unresolved
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What the pattern means: Several repliers frame quantum mechanics as math that predicts flawlessly without anyone agreeing on what it means, and flag the deeper problem that no one has yet stitched it together with gravity into one working model.

What commenters described: Quantum mechanics is us using incredibly advanced math to perfectly predict what will happen without any understanding of why it's happening.

Touch is mediated by electromagnetic interactions and quantum exclusion, so 'you never touch anything' is a semantic oversimplification rather than levitation
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What the pattern means: The 'you never actually touch anything' claim gets both embraced and gently deflated here, with one reply pointing out that once you interrogate what 'real' contact would even mean, the whole distinction dissolves.

What commenters described: the electrons in your fingers repel the electrons in whatever you're holding. nothing physically touches anything.

Limit: If you're looking at it that way, you have to question what you mean by "real" physical contact, and then find that it doesn't exist.

Quantum entanglement produces nonclassical correlations but cannot transmit a chosen message instantaneously; each local result is random and comparison requires ordinary communication
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What the pattern means: A self-described non-scientist gets a patient breakdown of entanglement via a paired-balls-in-boxes analogy, with the crucial caveat repeated twice over that the correlation can never be used to send an actual message.

What commenters described: two objects that have some shared information that links them and means when you measure one of them you instantly know information about the other

Limit: If we were able to actually influence entangled particles, then we'd send information faster than light which completely breaks pretty much everything we know about the universe

Quantum entanglement produces correlations that violate Bell inequalities without enabling controllable faster-than-light signalling
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What the pattern means: This short exchange nicknames entanglement 'spooky action at a distance' and then veers straight into Noetics, a tangent the thread treats as a fun rabbit hole rather than anything the physics itself supports.

What commenters described: I love Quantum Entanglement aka Spooky Action at a Distance.

Standard-Model calculations permit a metastable electroweak vacuum, but whether our vacuum is metastable and can nucleate a destructive bubble depends on measured parameters and unknown high-energy physics
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What the pattern means: Repliers reassure each other that even if our vacuum state isn't the lowest-energy one, any decay bubble would likely take billions of years to form and might never outrun cosmic expansion to reach us.

What commenters described: Just think of two soap bubbles becoming one soap bubble. Then correlate that with the universe just ending at any given moment without warning.

Limit: it's possible it wouldn't outrace the expansion rate of the universe enough to EVER reach us, depending on where and when it happened

The Everett or many-worlds interpretation retains unitary quantum evolution and treats decoherent branches as outcomes, but it is an interpretation—not experimentally established proof that every imaginable event happens to a copy of you
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What the pattern means: A lengthy reply corrects the popular 'quantum immortality' shortcut, arguing the Everett interpretation doesn't let anyone dodge death by jumping timelines since the you who dies here simply stays dead in this branch.

What commenters described: it entails that there are nearly identical copies of you and I and everything in our environment branching off at absolutely insane frequencies

Limit: So I just googled this and it says it's not proven science

Pushing one end of a long rod sends an elastic compression wave at the material's sound speed, not an instantaneous signal or faster-than-light motion
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What the pattern means: The rod-to-the-Moon thought experiment gets walked through with real numbers, showing a shove would propagate as a compression wave at the speed of sound in the material, around nine hours for carbon, not instantaneously.

What commenters described: For carbon it would take almost 9 hours for that wave to propagate to the Moon end. If you used diamond, perhaps 6 hours.

Quantum tunneling and superposition are experimentally real, but superposition is not accurately summarized as ordinary matter occupying two definite classical places at once
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What the pattern means: This barebones thread barely names tunneling and superposition before someone asks for an ELI5, and the answer that follows collapses superposition into the oversimplified 'matter in two places at once' framing other entries here specifically warn against.

What commenters described: I think superposition is that they found that matter can exist in two places at once

The Super Mario 64 Tick Tock Clock upwarp has an unproven hardware-bit-flip hypothesis
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What the pattern means: Speedrunning fans debate whether a famous Super Mario 64 glitch was really triggered by a cosmic ray flipping a memory bit, with even the people who like the story admitting no other cause has been proven to reproduce it.

What commenters described: the glitch is replicable by flipping a bit, and no other method of flipping that bit has been proven to work

Limit: it's unlikely that a neutrino was the cause

Quantum superposition is a linear combination of states; measurement requires physical coupling, but universal literal collapse is interpretation-dependent
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What the pattern means: One reply reframes 'observed' as 'physically interacted with' rather than 'looked at,' arguing the word swap alone fixes most people's confusion about why measurement collapses a quantum state at all.

What commenters described: It's not really in two states at once. It's in a combination of the two, simultaneously, which is a subtle but important difference.

A quantum vacuum is the lowest-energy state of fields, not philosophical absolute nothing; zero-point fluctuations do not mean literal detectable photons are everywhere
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What the pattern means: Commenters argue that 'nothing' may not be a coherent physical state at all, since even an empty vacuum still carries small zero-point energy oscillations that keep it from ever being truly blank.

What commenters described: even in what we would consider a completely empty vacuum, there are very small energy oscillations

A photon has no valid inertial rest frame, so statements about what a photon experiences or all events being instantaneous 'from its perspective' are not defined in special relativity
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What the pattern means: Repliers correct the common shortcut that a photon 'experiences' its own trip instantly, clarifying that a massless particle moving at c has no valid reference frame at all, so there's no perspective to describe.

What commenters described: a photon does not and can't have a reference frame, it can't experience either time nor timelessness.

Water Cherenkov detectors observe light from charged particles produced in neutrino interactions
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What the pattern means: A former detector-component technician describes the water inside neutrino detectors as so pure a dropped wrench dissolved overnight, leaving no visible trace at all.

What commenters described: The water is so pure it's not safe to drink... they went back out the next day to get it, and the wrench had dissolved.

Quantum superposition is experimentally supported, but it does not establish that ordinary perception is wrong or validate mystical claims about energy and vibration
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What the pattern means: This exchange starts from superposition and drifts into claiming our whole perception of reality is 'wrong,' complete with a garbled quote mashing up Einstein with a self-help catchphrase about energy and vibration.

What commenters described: It's more that there isn't something like a correct interpretation. Our whole perception of reality is only a filtered and interpolated interpretation of some electrical signals

GPS requires relativistic clock corrections totaling about 38 microseconds per satellite day; without them, positioning error would accumulate by roughly 10 kilometres per day—not become unusable after one or two minutes
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What the pattern means: Commenters emphasize just how tight GPS timing tolerances really are, noting the system needs sub-50-millisecond precision even before accounting for the relativistic correction that keeps satellite clocks synced to the ground.

What commenters described: less than 50 milliseconds of imprecision makes the system useless

The popular 'if you think you understand quantum mechanics' wording is not securely established as a verbatim Richard Feynman quotation
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What the pattern means: A half-remembered professor's opening-day joke about nobody understanding quantum mechanics gets attributed to Feynman by one commenter, though nobody in the thread actually pins down where or whether he said it that way.

What commenters described: “If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics.” ~ Richard Feynman.

Bell tests rule out broad classes of local hidden-variable models, not “reality” itself
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What the pattern means: One reply insists that the popular explanations of Bell's theorem don't actually work as analogies, since the whole point of the result is that local hidden-variable pictures fail the experimental tests.

What commenters described: we've shown that these experiments violate Bell's inequality, and thus local hidden variable explanations do not work

Traversable wormholes are mathematical possibilities in some general-relativity models, not established routes to faster-than-light travel, and commonly require exotic stress-energy
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What the pattern means: A commenter mourns that faster-than-light travel looks permanently out of reach after growing up on science fiction, and gets a partial counterpoint that wormholes remain mathematically possible, just gated behind negative mass nobody has ever found.

What commenters described: FTL travel seems permanently out of reach and we have an entire universe of pretty stars and possibly other life we will never know.

Limit: keeping them open would require negative mass/gravity, as wormholes wouldn't be traversable without it. As far as we know, negative mass/gravity isn't really a thing

Changes in gravity propagate at c in general relativity, as confirmed by near-simultaneous gravitational-wave and electromagnetic observations
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What the pattern means: A commenter wonders whether it's coincidence that gravity and light share a speed limit, while another simply reacts to learning gravity has a finite speed at all as one of the more obvious-in-hindsight facts they've encountered.

What commenters described: When I learned that gravity has a speed it was the most amazing and seemingly obvious things of ever heard

Photon wave and particle descriptions are complementary quantum-model features; the wave is not merely a classical track followed by a tiny particle
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What the pattern means: The wave-particle duality of light gets a one-line reply insisting everything, not just photons, is a wave, while another commenter admits the dual description is more confusing than either half alone.

What commenters described: You're a wave too. Everything is a wave.

The speed of light in vacuum is exactly 299,792.458 km/s and is the invariant speed limit for information and massive objects; 700 km/s is about 0.233% of it.
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What the pattern means: Commenters put a 700 km/s figure in perspective twice over, calling it fast next to everyday objects but 'basically stopped' against the roughly 300,000 km/s ceiling that light itself can't exceed.

What commenters described: Well, the speed limit is 300,000km per second. So 700km per second is practically stopped.

Enormous numbers of neutrinos pass through matter because they interact only weakly
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What the pattern means: The same detector-technician anecdote resurfaces here to explain why neutrinos slip through nearly everything unnoticed, with a hunch that an occasional stray one might even be behind rare unexplained computer glitches.

What commenters described: there are trillion apon trillions of atoms in our planet, ourselves included, and we see this effect almost never

The local or round-trip speed of light is measurable, while a distant one-way value requires a clock-synchronization convention; this is a simultaneity issue, not evidence for secretly anisotropic observable physics
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What the pattern means: This entry flags a genuinely strange gap in physics, that we can only ever measure light's round-trip speed, so a one-way anisotropy in either direction would be undetectable by any current method.

What commenters described: it's impossible to measure the one-way speed of light. All of our measurements are of the round-trip speed of light.

PET detects pairs of photons produced when positrons emitted by a radiotracer annihilate with electrons
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What the pattern means: A commenter who works in nuclear medicine admits that even doing PET scans for a living, the fact that the technique relies on literal antimatter annihilation still hasn't stopped amazing them.

What commenters described: I do that as a job and it still blows my mind when I really explain it to people.

Discrete time crystals are nonequilibrium quantum phases showing robust subharmonic response under periodic driving; they are not ground-state perpetual-motion machines and do not produce free energy
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What the pattern means: A commenter lays out time crystals as a genuinely new phase of matter that breaks time-translation symmetry, oscillating forever without settling into equilibrium, built in labs at Google, Stanford, and Princeton rather than only theorized.

What commenters described: Google's quantum AI lab, Stanford, and Princeton scientists built them.

Two objects can have a coordinate closing rate above c while each measures the other below c
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What the pattern means: A commenter cites Neil deGrasse Tyson to argue that two cars each going three-quarters light speed toward each other break physics with a 1.5c closing rate, but the reply clarifies a coordinate closing speed isn't an object's own measured velocity.

What commenters described: The closing speed isn't a moving object, so it's not going faster than the speed of light, it's just a calculation that exceeds the speed of light.

Photons have zero invariant rest mass to very tight limits but carry energy and momentum and respond to gravity
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What the pattern means: A blunt 'light has mass' claim draws a reply lamenting that the real nuance behind photons carrying momentum and energy without rest mass rarely gets taught clearly in science classrooms.

What commenters described: we don't discuss how important this is enough in science education, IMO

A diagonal polarizer inserted between crossed polarizers can restore transmitted light because each filter projects polarization successively according to Malus's law
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What the pattern means: A commenter details the classic three-polarizer trick, where slipping a diagonal filter between two crossed ones restores light rather than blocking more of it, and links it to the same underlying strangeness as the double-slit experiment.

What commenters described: 3 filters somehow absorb less than two.

Delayed-choice and quantum-eraser experiments do not change an already recorded past or send information backward in time
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What the pattern means: A commenter describes the delayed-choice quantum eraser as proof that photons 'retroactively decide' their past behavior based on a recording nobody has watched yet, a dramatic framing that overstates what the experiment actually shows about causality.

What commenters described: if you only record and plan in the future to watch said recording, not in real time, the photons will then retroactively decide what they will do

Quantum teleportation transfers a quantum state or operation using entanglement and classical communication, not matter or people
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What the pattern means: A commenter notes the disconnect between quantum teleportation already being demonstrated in labs and the mundane reality that humans still have to drive or walk everywhere they go.

What commenters described: teleportation has been done and can be recreated somewhat consistently... but we all still gotta go on some pain in the butt journey via walking or riding vehicles

Every inertial observer measures light in vacuum at c; the Michelson–Morley null result helped motivate but did not alone supply special relativity
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What the pattern means: A commenter recalls being surprised to learn Einstein didn't predict light's constant speed so much as inherit it from 1880s measurements that flatly contradicted how every other velocity in physics adds together.

What commenters described: if a man on a train moving 100 MPH shines a flashlight forward, the velocity of that light measures exactly the same for a stationary observer, as it does when the train isn't moving at all

The speed of light is about 300,000 km/s.
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What the pattern means: A commenter uses light's eight-minute trip to the Sun and four-year trip to the nearest star to argue that even at 300,000 km/s, humanity is effectively standing still on a cosmic scale.

What commenters described: Cosmically we are basically standing still... Space is bonkers bannas big

Observed peculiar velocities toward the Great Attractor are explained by gravitational perturbations from the large-scale matter distribution; current evidence does not require new physics.
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What the pattern means: A commenter shrugs off the Great Attractor's mysterious pull as most likely an ordinary dense supercluster hidden from view, not evidence that new physics is needed to explain it.

What commenters described: Probably a dense part of a galactic supercluster we just can't see. So probably not new physics, but certainly interesting.

The Planck length is a quantum-gravity scale where known theories are expected to need modification, not an experimentally proven smallest measurable length at which physics simply stops.
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What the pattern means: A commenter uses a full-universe-to-Planck-length number line to make a surprising point, that humans sit far closer in size to the observable universe than to the smallest measurable length.

What commenters described: you're actually significantly larger than the universal median size!

Calling a distant event literally “in the future” until its light reaches Earth confuses causal accessibility with frame-dependent simultaneity; relativity supplies no universal distant “now.”
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What the pattern means: A long reply argues that a star's future supernova is, from Earth's frame, literally still in the future until its light arrives, treating causal inaccessibility as equivalent to the event not having happened yet.

What commenters described: If an event occurred at that star 9 years ago, from your perspective, it has not yet occurred.

Light speed is the invariant upper limit for local causal influence in relativity, so Earth cannot receive information from a distant event before its light or another causal signal arrives.
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What the pattern means: The same explanation of light as the 'speed of causality' gets cited here to establish a stricter point, that no signal or observation from a distant event can outrun the light carrying news of it to Earth.

What commenters described: the speed of light isn't just the speed of light. It's the speed of causality. It's the speed of existence.

Current instruments cannot approach Planck-length resolution, but calling it definitively the smallest distance measurable under current laws is a theoretical interpretation rather than an experimental result.
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What the pattern means: A commenter is careful to separate theory from capability, clarifying that the Planck length is only the smallest distance our current physics can describe, not something any instrument has come remotely close to measuring.

What commenters described: it's the smallest distance we could measure with our current laws of physics, but we cannot even approach that level of resolution currently

Ordinary solid matter is built from quantum fields and particles described by quantum states and probabilities, while collective interactions produce stable macroscopic solidity
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What the pattern means: A single terse comment compresses the whole quantum-to-classical gap into one line, calling solid everyday objects fundamentally built from 'small quantum stuff which is mostly probabilities.'

What commenters described: All this big solid stuff is made of small quantum stuff which is mostly probabilities.

Physics has not established that people or particles teleport pixel-by-pixel through discrete positions at the Planck scale
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What the pattern means: A commenter voices genuine frustration that motion at the Planck scale supposedly happens in discrete jumps like pixels on a screen, unable to reconcile that with our smooth everyday experience of movement.

What commenters described: at the planck scale, we teleport from one position to the next. Basically like pixels moving across a screen.

Earth and other dense bulk materials can attenuate gamma rays, but equivalent shielding thickness depends on photon energy, composition, density, and the required reduction; a universal five-to-six-times-thicker rule is not supported.
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What the pattern means: A commenter offers dirt as a lead substitute for radiation shielding, noting it just needs to be five to six times thicker to provide comparable protection.

What commenters described: Dirt works just fine, you just need 5-6 times thicker layer for the same protection.

The Planck length is a theoretical quantum-gravity scale, not a proven smallest possible unit of measurement.
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What the pattern means: A one-line comparison puts human height closer to the diameter of the visible universe than to the Planck length, underscoring just how extreme that scale gap really is.

What commenters described: Human's height is closer to the diameter of the visible universe than the Planck length.

Imaging smaller detail generally requires a probe with a shorter effective wavelength; accelerating electrons gives electron microscopes much shorter wavelengths than visible light.
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What the pattern means: A commenter explains the basic tradeoff behind microscopy, that resolving smaller objects means bouncing a higher-energy probe off them, since energy and wavelength are inversely linked.

What commenters described: The smaller the object, the more energy that probe must have

Observation does not always mean literally bouncing a particle off an object, and practical resolution also depends on optics, aperture, noise, interaction strength, and sample damage—not energy alone.
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What the pattern means: The same probe-and-energy explanation gets reused here to make a subtler point, that 'observing' something in physics doesn't always mean literally bouncing a particle off it in the everyday sense people assume.

What commenters described: To see something, you must bounce a "probe" (like a photon of light or an electron) off it.

Gamma-ray attenuation is exponential and depends on photon energy and shielding material, so no finite 40-centimeter lead layer “fully blocks” all high-energy gamma radiation; it only reduces intensity by an energy-dependent factor.
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What the pattern means: A commenter cites a specific figure, 40 centimeters of lead, as the thickness needed to fully block high-energy gamma rays, treating shielding as an on/off threshold rather than a gradual reduction.

What commenters described: search "How much lead is needed to block gamma radiation?" and it's 40cm / 1.3 feet to fully block them at high energies.

Known physics becomes incomplete at the earliest conditions we can extrapolate toward, but scientists do not yet know what preceded inflation; this is a limit of present models, not proof that time and distance literally break at an outer edge.
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What the pattern means: A commenter draws a direct parallel between not understanding the Big Bang and not understanding the edge of space, arguing both sit beyond where our current laws of physics can meaningfully apply.

What commenters described: all of the laws of physics that we know break beyond those points

No scientific connection between quantum entanglement and purported mind-over-matter noetic effects is established here
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What the pattern means: The same one-line pairing of entanglement with Noetics reappears as its own entry here, still offered as an intriguing tangent rather than a claim anyone in the thread actually defends with evidence.

What commenters described: The field of Noetics is a fun little rabbit hole to tumble down into.

A photon has no valid rest frame, so “from the photon’s perspective” and a photon’s elapsed time are not defined by special relativity; zero proper time along a null path is not the same as an observer experiencing infinite speed.
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What the pattern means: A commenter states plainly that zero elapsed time for light is equivalent to 'infinite speed,' collapsing a subtle relativity result about undefined reference frames into a simpler-sounding but inaccurate rule of thumb.

What commenters described: From the photon's perspective no time has passed. Infinite speed results in zero time

In special relativity every inertial observer measures light in vacuum at c, and massive objects cannot be accelerated to c; a traveler moving at light speed has no valid inertial rest frame from which to fire a gun.
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What the pattern means: A commenter follows the speed-of-light-as-causality idea to its bleakest conclusion, arguing the same hard limit that prevents faster-than-light guns also permanently rules out any meaningful interstellar relationship or exploration.

What commenters described: you can never have useful interstellar relations, because there's nothing that's worth the cost of transport, and you cannot meaningfully maintain relationships with a multi-year communication lag

Simultaneity of spatially separated events is frame-dependent in special relativity, not merely a perceptual artifact that becomes relevant only at long distances.
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What the pattern means: The same long comment on causality gets cited here specifically for its claim that simultaneity itself is 'an artifact of perception,' though the poster hedges that the effect is negligible except over enormous distances.

What commenters described: Even 'simultaneous' is an artifact of perception and causality propagation, and isn't an absolute condition.

Two oppositely moving light pulses can separate at 2c in a third observer’s coordinates, while each local inertial observer still measures either pulse at c; velocity addition, not ordinary subtraction, governs relative measurements.
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What the pattern means: The same comment is reused a third time to highlight its specific example of firing a gun while already traveling at light speed, a scenario the poster admits sounds fake even after walking through the logic.

What commenters described: Even if you travel at the speed of light and fire a gun 'forwards'.

Under Lorentz-invariant relativity, controllable faster-than-light signaling can produce frames in which messages are received before they are sent and therefore causal paradoxes; this implication depends on the signaling assumptions, and no FTL communication has been demonstrated.
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What the pattern means: A commenter links faster-than-light communication directly to time travel, arguing the two are mathematically 'the same thing' once any signal is allowed to outrun causality.

What commenters described: the prospect of any sort of FTL being possible also means that the universe isn't strictly causal any more, and we've also invented time travel, because they're the same thing

A nearly light-speed vacuum-decay wall would provide essentially no advance warning from ordinary light or radio messages, but that conclusion is conditional on the bubble-wall model and is not an observed universal fact.
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What the pattern means: A commenter points out a specifically grim detail about false vacuum decay, that even a doomed civilization that saw it coming couldn't warn anyone else since any distress signal would arrive at the same instant as the destruction itself.

What commenters described: even if they could somehow get a message off the moment they get hit, it would reach us at the same time as the decay wave front

Earth’s movement does not by itself prove backward time travel impossible: relativity has no universal absolute spatial point that a traveler must target.
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What the pattern means: A commenter argues Earth's own motion through space rules out backward time travel, since a traveler would need to hit an exact spot that has since moved millions of miles.

What commenters described: you would need to know the exact point to hit on the surface of earth that has traveled millions of miles in just a few seconds

General relativity avoids the naive instability expected from a simply delayed Newtonian force
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What the pattern means: A detailed comment walks through why Earth's orbit doesn't decay even though gravitational information from the Sun takes over eight minutes to arrive, crediting general relativity's velocity-dependent corrections for closing what looks like a Newtonian instability.

What commenters described: gravity is NOT just an attractive force the way Newton postulated. Once you bring relativity into the mix, gravity is dependant on mass and velocity and things even out.

Velocity is relative, but a massive observer is not locally moving at light speed; “moving at the speed of time” is an informal four-velocity analogy, not an ordinary measurable speed through time.
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What the pattern means: A commenter reframes relativistic speed with a physicist's trick, noting that from your own perspective you're never moving through space at all, you're simply 'moving at the speed of time.'

What commenters described: For you, you're moving at the speed of time.

A floor supports a person through electromagnetic interactions between atoms together with quantum-mechanical exclusion effects; this is not the same force as gravity, which pulls the person downward.
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What the pattern means: A commenter ties the electromagnetic repulsion behind 'never truly touching anything' to a second everyday mystery, noting the same underlying forces are also why solid ground never lets you sink through it.

What commenters described: the same set of forces is why you don't fall through the floor

Electron spin is intrinsic quantum angular momentum, not a tiny sphere literally rotating
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What the pattern means: A long comparison to explaining color to someone blind is used to unpack electron spin, arguing physicists borrow the language of classical rotation purely because the math checks out, even though the electron isn't actually spinning in any literal sense.

What commenters described: electron's don't actually spin (it would have to break relativity to generate its measured momentum)

Special relativity requires every inertial observer to measure light in vacuum at c, and velocities between inertial frames combine with the Lorentz velocity-addition formula rather than ordinary arithmetic.
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What the pattern means: A commenter walks through the car-and-baseball version of relativistic velocity addition, showing that 0.9c plus 0.8c never actually reaches the naive 1.7c sum a bystander might expect.

What commenters described: I won't measure that baseball going at 0.9c + 0.8c = 1.7c, I'll measure something less than c

Two objects can have a coordinate separation rate greater than c in a third observer’s frame, but that is not the same as either object measuring the other’s physical relative speed above c.
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What the pattern means: The same velocity-addition explanation gets cited again for a narrower point, that two objects can appear to separate faster than light in a third party's coordinates without either object ever measuring the other moving that fast.

What commenters described: It breaks no rules for you to observe two other objects moving at faster than c, relative to each other.

Planck’s constant has units of action and relates quantum energy to frequency; it is not a smallest object or smallest length.
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What the pattern means: A commenter mistakes Planck's constant for a literal smallest possible object, predicting future physics will simply find something smaller, which misreads what the constant actually measures.

What commenters described: Our current best scientific theories say Planck's Constant is the smallest a thing can be.

Quantum fields and wavefunctions do not imply that matter is unreal or that human observation creates all physical objects
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What the pattern means: A sprawling comment traces the standard physics-education arc from solar-system atoms to electron clouds to probability functions, concluding somewhat further than the physics itself requires that 'matter' as commonly understood doesn't really exist at all.

What commenters described: What we model as particles and our hands-on experience of "matter" is simply an artifact (i.e. side effect) of our detection mechanisms.

The separate Planck length is a derived quantum-gravity scale, not experimental proof that no smaller length or structure can exist.
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What the pattern means: The same 'Planck's constant is the smallest possible thing' misconception gets repeated here, framed as an open question future physics will eventually resolve by finding something even tinier.

What commenters described: I'm quite sure that, given time, we will discover smaller things are possible. We just haven't yet.

A speed of 700 km/s is about 0.23% of the speed of light, so it is fast on human scales but nowhere near relativistic light speed; the quoted quantity is also a velocity, not an acceleration.
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What the pattern means: A commenter dismisses a 700 km/s figure as trivial once measured against light speed, calling it outright 'peanuts' by comparison.

What commenters described: 700km/s is peanuts compared to the speed of light.

Earth attenuates sufficiently high-energy neutrinos, so a neutrino view can contain a shadow
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What the pattern means: A commenter notes a strange consequence of neutrino physics, that if human eyes could see them, the Earth itself would barely cast a shadow since most neutrinos simply pass straight through it.

What commenters described: If our eyes were designed to see neutrinos we would not see a shadow at all.

Phone-camera zoom is not a close analogy for particle probing: digital zoom mainly crops or interpolates existing pixels, while optical zoom changes image magnification through optics rather than extracting unlimited detail from a fixed photon stream.
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What the pattern means: A commenter draws out why a phone camera's zoom is a poor stand-in for probing subatomic scales, since a camera just harvests existing photons while reaching smaller physical scales means firing higher-energy particles at the target yourself.

What commenters described: The camera doesn't change the object, it just harvests more detail from the existing flow of photons.

Resolving smaller structures generally requires probes with shorter wavelengths and therefore higher energies; visible-light wavelength limits conventional optical microscopy.
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What the pattern means: The same explanation of probe wavelength and energy gets reused to make the narrower optics point, that visible light's wavelength is what caps how small a conventional microscope can ever resolve.

What commenters described: you must use a probe particle with a wavelength small enough to resolve tiny details

The approximately 700 km/s figure is a peculiar velocity relative to the expected Hubble expansion, so it represents a deviation from the background flow rather than a direct constant approach speed toward an object.
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What the pattern means: A commenter clarifies that the often-cited 700 km/s isn't Earth's speed toward the Great Attractor directly, but the amount by which cosmic expansion pulling us away is being slowed down by its gravity.

What commenters described: we are actually moving away from it, but our movement away is just 700 km/s slower than it would be without that attraction

The proposed black-hole barrier below the Planck scale combines quantum and gravitational reasoning but remains theoretical, so it should not be presented as an observed microscopic event or settled cutoff.
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What the pattern means: The same probe-energy explanation is used here to describe a specifically dramatic prediction, that pushing resolution past the Planck length wouldn't reveal anything smaller, it would just collapse the energy into a microscopic black hole.

What commenters described: the concentrated energy creates a microscopic black hole that prevents any further observation

The strange quark is one of six fundamental quark flavors and appears in short-lived hadrons and dense-matter physics; bulk stable strange matter remains hypothetical
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What the pattern means: This entry is just two bare words with no elaboration from anyone else, leaving the strange quark's role in short-lived hadrons and dense-matter physics completely unexplained by the thread itself.

What commenters described: Strange quarks

A future theory that supersedes quantum mechanics would still need to reproduce its successful predictions in the regimes where they have been tested; this is the correspondence requirement, not a claim that science ignores truth.
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What the pattern means: A commenter concedes science doesn't chase 'whole truth' so much as models that keep matching precise observations, arguing any future replacement for quantum mechanics would still have to reproduce everything it's already gotten right.

What commenters described: future theories based on new observations will still have to account for our astronomically precise current observations

Every inertial observer measures the same vacuum light speed c; Lorentz transformations reconcile this with relative motion
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What the pattern means: A commenter's train-and-flashlight explanation lands the invariant speed of light plainly, the beam moves away at c whether you're the one holding the flashlight on the train or standing still beside the tracks.

What commenters described: The speed of light is absolute, no matter where you are or what you're doing.

Neutrino oscillation observations established that neutrinos have mass
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What the pattern means: A commenter notes neutrino mass was only confirmed as recently as 1998, and that even now scientists still can't pin down exactly how small that mass actually is.

What commenters described: It was only 1998 that we really confirmed that they even have mass.

Planck’s constant is a fundamental constant whose numerical SI value is exact by definition, and quantum mechanics is extraordinarily well tested.
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What the pattern means: A commenter defends Planck's constant as an experimentally nailed-down measurement rather than a shaky theoretical guess, arguing any theory rejecting quantum mechanics now has an enormous body of precise evidence to explain away.

What commenters described: We've already measured quantum effects with an astronomical degree of precision, so any new paradigm that rejects quantum mechanics has a LOT of explaining to do.

Future evidence could force a revision of current physics, but that possibility is speculative and is not evidence that faster-than-light entities exist.
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What the pattern means: A commenter speculates that faster-than-light objects could exist without ever being detected, since anything moving that fast would outrun the very light needed to see it.

What commenters described: Would be kinda hard to, since it'd leave your eyeball before it "got there." Doesn't mean they're not out there.

No reproducible observation has shown matter or information traveling locally faster than light, but the reason is not that an FTL object would leave an observer’s eye before arriving; detection depends on signals reaching a detector, while relativity’s causal structure is the tested theoretical constraint.
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What the pattern means: The same 'FTL would leave your eyeball before arriving' comment is cited again here specifically for its claim that we simply haven't observed anything moving faster than light, not that physics rules it out entirely.

What commenters described: We haven't seen anything that travels faster than light.

Radio waves and visible light are both electromagnetic radiation at different wavelength and frequency ranges.
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What the pattern means: A commenter expresses genuine disbelief that music and video can ride on radio waves at all, describing the whole process as 'invisible light' carrying information in a way that still doesn't click intuitively.

What commenters described: information, music, videos, etc can be transmitted by radio waves(which itself is just invisible light)? I still don't understand how that actually works.

Special relativity provides no absolute universal position or preferred inertial frame; positions and velocities are stated relative to a frame.
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What the pattern means: A commenter questions what a claimed 'insanely fast' universal motion could even be measured against, pointing out there's no fixed point anywhere in the universe to serve as an absolute reference.

What commenters described: There is no absolute measurement of position anywhere in the universe (as far as we know).

Using the exact speed of light, 700 km/s is about 0.233% of c, so “about 0.2%” is correct.
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What the pattern means: A commenter runs the exact division and lands on 0.2 percent of light speed for a 700 km/s figure, delivered with a sarcastic 'hope that clears it up' aimed at anyone expecting a simpler answer.

What commenters described: the speed of light is ~299,792 km/s, so it's about .2% the speed of light.

Velocity must be stated relative to a reference frame, so calling a velocity intrinsically “insanely fast” is physically incomplete, though relative velocity remains measurable and meaningful once the frame is specified.
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What the pattern means: A commenter flatly rejects a claim of traveling 'insanely fast' through space as meaningless on its own, since velocity only makes sense once you specify what it's relative to.

What commenters described: This is a meaningless statement as velocity is entirely relative.

An electrical grid need not be one continuous conductor from generator to computer: transformers transfer energy between electrically isolated windings by changing magnetic flux, and electronic devices can couple signals across insulating gaps through fields or capacitance.
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What the pattern means: A commenter points out that electricity never actually travels along one unbroken wire from power plant to computer, since transformers and internal components both rely on gaps bridged by changing magnetic fields rather than direct contact.

What commenters described: there's no continuous wire that connects you to the power station. There are many gaps. There's even a gap or two within your computer itself.

An n-qubit pure state requires 2^n complex amplitudes to describe classically, but a quantum computer does not borrow particles from other dimensions
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What the pattern means: A commenter passes along an explanation, admittedly possibly AI-generated, that quantum computers 'borrow' particles from other dimensions once qubit counts exceed the number of particles in existence, without pinning down where the claim actually came from.

What commenters described: there is a threshold where the number of qubits involved gets large enough that you end up using more quantum particles to run your calculations than there are in existance

Limit: This might be AI slop, but it sounded neat.

At microscopic scales, shorter-wavelength probes generally offer finer spatial resolution, but ordinary optics fails long before the Planck scale and the observer’s body size is not the controlling variable.
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What the pattern means: A commenter separates two different kinds of 'smallness,' a nervous system's variable perception speed versus a photon's actual physical resolving power, concluding that shrinking a person wouldn't let them see below the Planck length no matter how the brain adapted.

What commenters described: you get finer resolution from higher energy photons because their wavelength is shorter; at Planck length, any smaller wavelength would have so much energy density that it would immediately collapse into a black hole

At relativistic speeds, relative speed does not simply “become light”; massive objects remain below c in every inertial frame.
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What the pattern means: A commenter notes that at truly relativistic speeds, the relative velocity between two things effectively becomes light speed itself, a shorthand that only makes sense once you specify what frame you're measuring from.

What commenters described: speed relative to another object is only really important when the two are interacting (or moving at relativistic speeds, but then the relative speed is light)

Atoms were once treated as indivisible in early models and were later shown to contain subatomic structure, but that history does not establish that every proposed lower limit will “always” be overturned; sub-Planck structure remains an open theoretical question, not an inevitable discovery.
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What the pattern means: A commenter leans on the historical pattern of atoms once seeming indivisible before physicists kept finding smaller structure, betting that trend will eventually break past whatever limit currently looks final.

What commenters described: Scientific progress has been discovering smaller and smaller things than that ever since... has always been proven wrong before. I'm counting on that trend to continue.

Differences in sensory temporal resolution do not change physical time, and making a human proportionally smaller would not by itself improve access to short distances; measurement resolution depends on probes, wavelength, energy, apparatus, and interactions.
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What the pattern means: A commenter wonders whether shrinking a human body would let it perceive distances below the Planck length, reasoning from an earlier point about size-dependent time perception without addressing what actually determines measurement resolution.

What commenters described: if we were smaller, we could "see" a smaller measurement than Plancks

Enormous interstellar distances make travel difficult under known physics, but geographic isolation likewise supplies no test of or evidence for the simulation hypothesis.
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What the pattern means: A commenter recounts Elon Musk's simulation-hypothesis argument, stacking the Planck length, light speed, and quantum observation together with interstellar isolation as if they all point toward the same conclusion.

What commenters described: there is a smallest possible unit (the planck length) seems to be able to pixelize the universe, there is a maximum speed in the universe

Gamma rays travel at light speed, so observers cannot receive light-speed notice before the burst photons, but whether death would be immediate or global depends strongly on distance, beam orientation, fluence, and atmospheric response; “all at once” is not the standard Earth-impact model.
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What the pattern means: A commenter imagines dying to a gamma-ray burst 'all at once' the instant it arrives, since there's no way to receive warning faster than the light-speed radiation carrying the danger itself.

What commenters described: We would be and then we would not be. All at once

General relativity describes increasing distances between unbound galaxies through expansion of the metric, not literal manufacture of a substance called “room”; observations show accelerating expansion, while its duration and ultimate limit depend on dark energy’s unknown physics.
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What the pattern means: A commenter describes cosmic expansion casually as the universe 'creating more room,' treating that room as limitless without engaging what actually drives the acceleration.

What commenters described: The universe keeps creating more room, so AFAIK there's no limit to how much more room there can be.

Human bodies emit ultraweak visible photons from metabolic chemistry, far below unaided vision
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What the pattern means: A Spanish-language comment states plainly that human bodies emit visible light from metabolic activity, a thousand times too faint for the unaided eye to ever notice.

What commenters described: Literalmente brillas, pero es 1.000 veces mĂĄs dĂŠbil de lo que el ojo humano puede detectar.

In quantum mechanics, “observation” means a physical measurement or interaction and does not require a conscious person watching; the popular claim that quantum events occur only when consciously observed is misleading.
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What the pattern means: The same Musk-adjacent simulation comment gets cited here for its quantum piece specifically, repeating the popular idea that certain physics 'only actively happens when being observed' without distinguishing measurement from conscious attention.

What commenters described: some quantum physics only actively happens when being observed

Local gravitational peculiar motions and large-scale expansion coexist because their relative importance changes with scale and whether a structure is gravitationally bound.
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What the pattern means: A commenter is genuinely puzzled how the Great Attractor's pull and cosmic expansion's stretching can both be true at once, asking why the two forces don't simply cancel each other out.

What commenters described: How can it we are getting pulled towards the GA and Dark Matter is spreading things thin at the same time?

Microscopic size does not imply that every constituent moves near light speed: relativistic electron motion is especially important for inner electrons of heavy atoms, while many bound particles have much lower characteristic speeds.
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What the pattern means: A commenter claims that zooming in far enough reveals everything moving near light speed, plus particles spontaneously creating and destroying themselves, blending relativistic electron behavior with vacuum fluctuations into one sweeping statement.

What commenters described: if you stare close and long enough you'll see something create and subsequently, simultaneously destroy itself

Newton's gravitational constant G is unusually difficult to measure precisely, but its uncertainty is far below the viral comparison stated
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What the pattern means: A detailed comment contrasts how tightly physicists have pinned down constants like the speed of light or electron mass against how stubbornly imprecise Big G remains, translating a 0.02 percent uncertainty into a vivid measuring-a-person analogy.

What commenters described: this is the equivalent of measuring a six foot-plus man and only being able to confirm his height to within 1/64th of an inch

No reproducible evidence shows matter or information traveling locally faster than light, and special relativity forbids accelerating massive objects through c; saying humanity will “never” achieve any FTL mechanism is stronger than an empirical result, while the extinction forecast is unsupported opinion.
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What the pattern means: A commenter declares faster-than-light travel permanently off the table for humanity, pairing that certainty with a pessimistic aside doubting civilization will even survive another thousand years to try.

What commenters described: We're never getting FTL... I'd be surprised if we make it to the next millenium.

Quantum computers use engineered qubits and interference; they are not generally modeled on human brain architecture
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What the pattern means: A bare claim that quantum computers are 'modeled after the human brain' sits unchallenged here, with no reply engaging or correcting the mismatch between engineered qubit architectures and biological neurons.

What commenters described: Quantum Computers exist or at the very least are being built and are modeled after the human brain

Quantum vacuum effects are measurable, but 'particle pairs popping in and out' and bumpy electron orbits are heuristic pictures
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What the pattern means: A commenter describes vacuum particle-antiparticle pairs popping in and out of existence, citing a measurably 'bumpy' orbit in a single atomic particle as the evidence that these fleeting fluctuations are real rather than purely mathematical.

What commenters described: They know this is real by measuring the orbit of a single atomic particle and being able to see it fluctuates or has a bumpy ride

Relativity predicts that elapsed proper time depends on motion and gravitational potential: high relative speed and stronger gravity can produce measurable time dilation, although ordinary objects do not subjectively feel their own local clocks running abnormally.
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What the pattern means: A commenter summarizes time dilation broadly, noting that both speed and gravitational strength can shift how quickly time passes for any object in the universe relative to another.

What commenters described: Everything in the universe can experience time at a different rate depending on how fast it's moving and/or how strong the gravitational forces around it are

Special-relativistic time dilation can make less proper time elapse for a high-speed traveler than for someone who remains at home; the dramatic one-hour-versus-five-years example would require a trajectory extremely close to light speed and includes acceleration and turnaround details.
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What the pattern means: A commenter dramatizes time dilation with a domestic example, imagining a takeout run that feels like an hour to a near-light-speed traveler but stretches into five years for the parent waiting at home.

What commenters described: us taking an hour to pick up the takeout it takes 5 years for mom and she's died of starvation already

The Planck length is not a distance that ordinary vision could approach by shrinking the observer; it is a natural scale near which present theories of gravity and quantum mechanics are expected to require a quantum-gravity description.
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What the pattern means: The same shrinking-observer idea reappears here specifically applied to the Planck length, framed as a genuine possibility for seeing finer detail rather than a scale where present theories are expected to simply break down.

What commenters described: if we were smaller, we could "see" a smaller measurement than Plancks

Uniform velocity is frame-relative, while local acceleration can be detected without comparing against a distant object.
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What the pattern means: A commenter distinguishes uniform velocity, which only matters relative to something else, from acceleration, which a person or instrument can detect locally without any external reference at all.

What commenters described: We don't feel velocity outside of accelerating

Virtual particles and 'borrowing energy' are calculation metaphors, not literal particles violating energy conservation
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What the pattern means: A commenter frames virtual particle pairs as the universe briefly 'borrowing energy from the future' via the uncertainty principle, and ties an imbalance at a black hole's event horizon directly to Hawking radiation as the universe 'paying off its energy debt.'

What commenters described: the universe pays of its energy debt by slightly evaporating the blackhole(Hawking radiation)

Within Lorentz-invariant special relativity, controllable faster-than-light signaling can be combined across relatively moving frames to reverse event order and construct causal paradoxes; in that framework FTL communication and backward-time signaling are tightly linked.
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What the pattern means: A commenter treats the causality-paradox argument against faster-than-light travel as settled 'hard proof,' dismissing any appeal to unknown future physics or advanced alien technology as wishful thinking rather than a live scientific question.

What commenters described: It's not, never has been and never will be possible outside of fiction. Some people still can't let it go for some reason.

General relativity describes free fall through curved spacetime sourced by mass-energy, not merely compressed space or an invisible Newtonian pull
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What the pattern means: One reply pushes past the bowling-ball-on-a-mattress cliche to note that curved spacetime is a description of gravity's behavior, not an explanation of why mass curves space in the first place, comparing it to noticing a lamp changes color with a trumpet's notes without ever learning why.

What commenters described: Gravity isn't a field or a particle but rather simply the geometry of spacetime itself.

Limit: It's still this invisible force that has its fingers in everything that exists, with a mathematical model that fits the data but doesn't answer the deeper 'why.'

Light pulses can propagate below c in matter because of interactions and dispersion, while c remains the invariant vacuum causal speed
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What the pattern means: Commenters work out the real distinction themselves mid-conversation: an individual photon always moves at light speed in a vacuum, but a pulse traveling through a medium can look slower once you're measuring group behavior rather than a single particle.

What commenters described: An individual photon (for example) will ALWAYS move at the SoL, vacuum or not. But a beam of light, as a group, may move slower in a medium.

Ionizing cosmic-ray secondaries can cause semiconductor soft errors and bit flips
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What the pattern means: Replies separate fact from near-fact here, confirming cosmic-ray-induced bit flips are real and tested for at high altitude while explicitly ruling out neutrinos as the cause, since they barely interact with matter at all.

What commenters described: Cosmic rays, however, definitely cause measurable bit-flipping (soft errors). Soft Error Rate testing is often done at high altitudes for this reason.

Limit: If you have data stored in a device that you're taking on an airplane, be sure to have it backed up, since soft error rate can climb tenfold or more at altitude.

A 4,096-vote Belgian election anomaly was attributed as a possible single-event upset
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What the pattern means: A commenter recalls a specific real-world incident to back up the cosmic-ray bit-flip claim, a European election where a candidate picked up an oddly precise, power-of-two surplus of votes that looked like a hardware error rather than fraud.

What commenters described: There was one election somewhere in Europe where a candidate got an anomalous amount of additional votes... it surely was a power of two.

Limit: The commenter admits uncertainty about the exact vote count, so the anecdote is offered as a plausible example rather than a verified figure.

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Except we wouldn't see any last goodbye messages with false vacuum decay. Any civilizations getting hit before us would get no prior warning and even if they could somehow get a message off the moment they get hit, it would reach us at the same time as the decay wave front.

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Iirc one of the top times in super Mario 64 speed running is impossible to replicate without some kind of interference from a neutrino or some kind of ionising particle at a specific spot on a specific level, I can't remember which off the top of my head however unfortunately.

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Okay thats indeed pretty interesting, very suprised ive never heard of it considering the 2012 Tag, but its pretty far from New particles id say still

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Could you explain this a little better I'm curious but am feeling lost lol

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It's something to do with quantum tunnelling and atoms being mostly empty space, but yeah even if every person spent their entire lives jumping up and down all throughout time it would never happen, its just technically possible but so unlikely its basically impossible

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Across this category, the strongest replies are patient corrections: commenters with technical backgrounds repeatedly step in to swap a spooky pop-science claim (consciousness collapsing reality, teleporting matter, touching nothing, a hard Planck-length floor on measurement) for the mundane mechanism actually at work, usually a matter of definitions ('observe' means 'interact,' not 'look') or units (a coordinate closing speed isn't a measured velocity). What varies is how far the thread lets the topic drift once the real physics gets weird enough on its own: some stay tightly corrective, while others slide into speculative or mystical tangents, Noetics, simulation theory, doom-laden vacuum decay, quantum-computers-modeled-on-brains, that nobody in the thread actually defends with evidence.

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Lobster are biologically immortal and the only reason why they die is because they exhaust themselves, either because of molting being too taxing, not getting enough food, get eaten, or get sick.top-level
Most lobsters are left handedreply
Even Zoidberg doesn’t have hands.reply
According to ancient videos, they are also magneticreply
How ancient of a video we talking herereply
Has there been any scientific attempts to keep one alive for as long as possible? From the reasons you listed, each seems preventable under the right conditions, so it seems it would be possible…reply
Split brain experiments. People had their left and right brain hemispheres disconnected from each other, usually as a treatment for epilepsy. The scientists would give the patients tasks to complete or questions to answer to study how the split brain operated. Your brain has different functions on the left side of the brain than right. For example, speech and language is exclusive to only one side. The brain halves are not symmetrical in terms of functionality. ______ “The split-brain experiments studied people whose Corpus Callosum had been surgically cut to treat severe epilepsy. This disconnected the left and right hemispheres so they could no longer communicate normally. Researchers like Roger Sperry and Michael Gazzaniga then tested what each half of the brain could perceive independently. The most famous finding came from vision experiments. If an image was flashed only to the left visual field, it went to the right hemisphere. Since language is usually centered in the left hemisphere, the patient often could not verbally say what they saw. But their left hand, controlled by the right hemisphere, could still point to or grab the correct object. This showed the information existed in the brain even though the speaking part could not access it. In one famous split-brain experiment, a command was shown only to the patient’s right hemisphere, such as: “Walk over there.” The patient stood up and began walking. When researchers asked why, the speaking left hemisphere had never seen the instruction because the hemispheres were disconnected. But instead of saying “I don’t know,” the patient confidently answered something like: “I’m going to get a Coke.” The significant part is that the patient was not lying or joking. They genuinely believed the explanation they gave. Their brain automatically generated a reason that felt real and coherent to them, even though the true cause of the action was hidden from the part of the brain responsible for speech. The brain is designed to make sense of our experience. The ‘thinking’ part of the brain couldn’t access the reason the decision was made, so it invented one. Apparently convincing enough for the patient to feel as though it actually happened that way. That’s what made the experiment so unsettling and influential; It suggested that humans can sincerely experience invented explanations as genuine motives.” _____ I love listening to philosophers, scientists, neurologists, and ordinary people deconstruct this phenomenon. I’ve spent a good chunk of time becoming familiar with these specific experiments, yet the implications never fail to fascinate me. Edit to add: I’d like to give credit to [account] for the following recommendation that I thoroughly enjoyed: Heather Berlin 2-part Nova on the brain is well worth watching if this interests you: [[link removed] Both parts are on youtube.top-level
>They genuinely believed the explanation they gave. This sounds similar to the way an external stimulus (sudden noise, dog licking your hand) can effortlessly be inserted into your dream.reply
A police chopper hovering over my neighborhood at 3 am made me dream I was hearing Fortunate Son.reply
I slept through a very big fire less than a block from me. I dreamed the streets were erupting with fire.reply
I was sleeping over at a friends in highschool and had a dream I was in his house, woke up, got ready for school but the alarm wouldn't stop, showered then ate with the alarm blasting. Eventually I had a meltdown and started destroying the alarm clock in the dream when it wouldn't stop. Real long, real annoying dream when I had to do everything all over again.reply
Sounds similar to confabulation in dementia, where patients have random false memories or explanations to fill in cognitive gaps. Also how AI can't tell when it doesn't know something and just makes shit up.reply
I love this kind of thing. It's pretty wild when you take into account the side effects. There's an episode of House, M.D. where a guy with this operation ended up with Wandering Hand (aka Strangelove) syndrome where one hand had its own initiative in movement and action. By the end of the episode they discovered that the other hand *already knew what was wrong with the man and had been reacting to protect him*. Crazy cool.reply
We are just meat computers with questionable data inputs. Neat stuff.reply
Mind boggling. Have any good recs for podcasts?reply
>Their brain automatically generated a reason that felt real and coherent to them, even though the true cause of the action was hidden I think we automatically generate a lot of reasoning that is unrelated to reality. I don't trust the answers others give me and I don't trust myself either until I've really interrogated my thinking, and even then I'm not sure. We create a lot more of what we think is our reality than we know.reply
There's a species of salamander that stabs its ribs through the sides of its body to ward off predators.top-level
And a frog that breaks its bones to give itself claws.reply
Wolverine Frog. Pretty badass.reply
There's a species of Toad that gives birth from it's back. Yes, it's disgusting to look at. It made me very itchy and uncomfortable.reply
Don't forget the lizard that shoots blood out its eyes.reply
Everything becomes crabreply
And it was my GOAT tank in Pokemon Scarlet/Violet! 💪🦎reply
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One I never see people post is Oxygen. The oxygen in Earth’s atmosphere only exists because of life. Without life continually replenishing it, it would eventually disappear. The thing is, oxygen is *reactive*. It isn't inert like the nitrogen in our air. It's gradually pulled from the atmosphere when it bonds with rocks, volcanic gases, organic material—producing such hits as CO2, rust, and fun things like *fire.* If photosynthetic life stopped, free oxygen in the atmosphere would steadily decline as it was “used up” in chemical reactions. Earth had almost no free oxygen before microbes evolved photosynthesis and began releasing it as a waste product. Over millions of years, that waste gas built up until it reached today’s level of ~21% of the atmosphere. The kicker is that oxygen was actually toxic to most life at the time. It led to the "Great Oxygenation Event", which triggered one of Earth’s earliest mass extinctions. It’s a bit like if human-produced pollution and waste gas accumulated until it was so thick it was impossible to breathe and killed off most life, but new life evolved that needed our pollution to live. When free oxygen is hit by ultraviolet radiation, it breaks apart and forms ozone. The ozone layer exists because of atmospheric oxygen, and it protects the surface from that ultraviolet radiation. No oxygen, no ozone, and a lot more skin cancer. Or worse. Because oxygen wouldn't really be in the atmosphere without life, it's also a potential biosignature. If we ever detect a planet with a stable, oxygen-rich atmosphere (especially alongside gases it shouldn’t chemically coexist with) it’s strong evidence that something is actively producing it... possibly even life.top-level
Oxygen levels actually peaked at 30% to 35% during the Carboniferous Period, 300-350 million years ago, allowing for massive insects, including dragonflies such as Meganeuropsis permiana, with wingspans over 2 feet.reply
And that could be close to the upper limit. If it gets much higher fires could spontaneously start and be almost impossible to extinguish, burning out of control until so many plants die the oxygen levels drop againreply
The Carboniferous era was rife with wildfires for this reason. With some scientists hypothesizing that the sky would have had a perpetual yellow haze, like in the absolute height of wildfire season here in the present, but year round.reply
I don’t believe thats the accepted theory anymore, the consensus now is they grew so large because there was no terrestrial competitionreply
And then all those anaerobic life forms found a hospitable environment, in our guts. Almost as if they evolved us to be carriers and feeders for them.reply
Morelike we were some of the last refuges for them to hide in colonies as the world outside became uninhabitable to their kind.reply
Aww, that’s a sweet perspective. We’re like fleshy fallout bunkersreply
> No oxygen, no ozone, and a lot more skin cancer. Or worse. Hey, if you can make it past the "no oxygen" thing, I can totally see why the skin cancer would be terrifying.reply
Really interesting! I remember reading something about oxygen ironically being the hidden killer in our bodies because of its aggressive reactivenessreply
yes, it destroys small parts of our cells when it's used and we see the effect of that in aging. we oxidise tooreply
If you scuba dive using nitrox (air with oxygen levels higher than 21%), you have to keep track of multiple dives to avoid literally burning your lungs form the extended exposure to high levels of oxygen. Also fun fact, oxygen becomes toxic at high pressures. If you filled your tank with pure oxygen, you would go into convulsions (along with several other nasty effects) at a depth of about 20 feet.reply
>"It’s a bit like if human-produced pollution and waste gas accumulated until it was so thick it was impossible to breathe and killed off most life..." \*shifts uncomfortably\*reply
In Gabon, central Africa, there's a layer of rock known as the Francevillian Formation. It was laid down on a seabed about 2 billion years ago, something like 1.4 billion years before the beginning of multicellular life as we know it. In this rock there are grooved, spiral-shaped impressions of various sizes, the largest about 17 centimeters in diameter, and they kinda look like late Precambrian animal fossils other than the fact that they're too old by a factor of three. Some skeptical scientists have suggested that they are probably just mineral concretions (similar to manganese nodules that we find on the ocean floor today), as some crystals also leave impression patterns like this as they form and interact with surrounding minerals. But there is also evidence that at that place and time, an inland sea combined with nearby volcanism caused nutrients to be trapped and concentrated, encouraging unusually prolific cyanobacteria growth and raising the local oxygen levels well above the Earth's average at the time- perhaps the ideal chemical environment for weird evolutionary experiments. So we *might* be looking at the fossils of some bizarre strain of life that got an early start on multicellularism 1.4 billion years ahead of time, before going extinct when its anomalously hospitable environment naturally disappeared. [link removed]top-level
You telling me Gabon has the only known natural nuclear reactor AND THIS??reply
MRI, magnetic resonance imaging. Let’s take a big magnet, throw in some intermittent radio waves, measure which atoms are flipping upside-down, and then make a 3D imagetop-level
All using differential equations. Now that's where calculus is used in real life.reply
I was a Math Major, but Diff Eqs was at 8 AM, so I took Graph Theory instead. So I’m useless for designing an MRI, but I can find the shortest Hamiltonian Circuit for the local bars.reply
During my MRI they found a small piece of metal in my shoulder. "Do you want to continue?" "Uh. Sure." "Let us know if it gets hot." "Wait. What?"reply
I was notified of a bb in my ankle when I was 29. “Did you feel your ankle getting hot?” I didn’t. 20 years earlier I was hit in the ankle from a bb. (Purposely shot at by friend’s older brother) Weird part was I recall looking down and watching the bb bounce off my ankle when it hit. Apparently I imagined that part.reply
Memory hallucinations are real. A few years ago, I was telling my mom about my earliest memory was going to the hospital when I was 3 to visit my baby sister because she had to have heart surgery when she was 1. I told her all about the room we in, the plant we got, etc. Her response was immediately "that never happened. You never came to the hospital when she had her surgery. You were with the neighbor pretty much the whole time." Oh.reply
Parents' memories aren't infallible either. Her saying that doesn't automatically mean that never happened. Hell, my parents have completely forgotten entire PETS we've had and I've had to prove to them with third party confirmation that I wasn't inventing it. And a parent going through sleepless nights, sick with worry about a baby having heart surgery? Yeah I can imagine her mind was a bit frazzled at the time. I'm especially suspicious of people who are extra confident about something that happened years and years ago. Or you could have been wrong and were 3 years old. Who knowsreply
I think every adult child has experienced a parent blissfully gaslighting them about things that happened in their childhood. We experienced a personality-shaping event, they experienced a Tuesday.reply
Wuuuuuuut??? Okay rabbit hole, here i come...reply
As an MRI technologist, the physics behind MR is truly amazing stuff.reply
Ants measure distance by counting their steps. Scientists proved this by taking some ants out of a line and putting tiny stilts on them. Those ants then over shot the food source they were going tootop-level
This is my favorite thing I've read all day, thank youreply
Stilted ants walking past the lunch tables "Why can't I stop!"reply
Ant stilts?!? That sounds *adorable!!!!*. This is my highest rated comment? I’ll take it.reply
What is this? Stilts for ANTS?!reply
I would so like to see how that grant proposal was written.reply
\*takes massive bong rip\* “Okay, alright, dudes… hear me out. Ants. Stilts. Stilts on ants. To measure, uh, how, to uh, see if they measure distance by number of steps, right? And so when we put like stilts on them, they will have longer legs and our hypothesis is that the ants will… What? I don’t know man, with glue or something. We’ll figure out the ant stilt configuration when we get the grant money. It’s all detailed in the proposal, how we were at the circus and thought of this cool idea to experimentally determine, um, the ants’ susceptibility to transmogrification of their mobility situation. Yes, this is sativa. Would taking a hit help your deliberations on the grant?”reply
> putting tiny stilts I cannot imagine how difficult of a task this is without killing them.reply
I'm guessing they temporarily freeze them so they stop movingreply
This is a good tip for anyone with small children who struggle to get their shoes on in the morning.reply
Brief CO2 exposure (dropping an antacid in water) works too.reply
"Good job putting heels on those ant, but you could have done without the lipstick."reply
A certain tick bite can cause you to become allergic to meattop-level
The lonestar tick, and its called Alpha Gal syndrome IIRCreply
i’m not like other girls, i’m an alpha galreply
> The lonestar tick It's actually one of many ticks that can cause it. The lone star tick is the most likely one in the US, but different ticks around the world can cause it, too. Australia has the highest rate of syndrome, and there the most likely ticks to cause it are the paralysis tick and the castor bean tick. They don't have many Lone Star ticks in Australia. Travel to other regions and different ticks are the most likely vector.reply
I had alpha gal for 2.5 years. Don’t recommend.reply
Does it ever go into remission or are you just vegetarian forever?reply
I guess you could call it remission. I’m not entirely sure if it ever completely goes away. My doctor wasn’t sure either. I wasn’t completely vegetarian during the period of time. I was able to eat chicken and turkey. Just had to be careful because they treat those meats with carrageenan as a preservative, which has alpha gal protein in it.reply
Really? Carrageenan is seaweed. What's it doing with red meat protein, the little freak?reply
[Cow testicles are *basically* bees]([link removed]reply
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seaweeds aren't plants, they're a type of life called protists! I lovingly refer to the protist kingdom as the 'bargain bin.' Organisms in there are so weird, they fit nowhere else in the tree of lifereply
The "protist" kingdom is no longer in use as a taxon in contemporary biology. It arose in the 19th century in an attempt to draw a clear divide between "lower" single-cellular organisms and "higher" multi-cellular organisms, but that is not how the actual genetic relationships work. In today's taxonomy, pretty much anything that does photosynthesis and looks at all plant-like is classed as archaeplastida (that is, you know, a plant). Exceptions are cyanobacteria, but definitely nothing multi-cellular.reply
Seaweed is super freakyreply
Grizzly bears run as fast as the average horsetop-level
I got charged by a grizzly camping with a couple friends in the Alaskan backcountry a few years back. By the time it got within about 40ft of us, my friend’s dog charged back and chased it off. The size and speed of the bear really didn’t compute in my brain - it was like a big furry truck just appeared out of nowhere in the wilderness. I mailed treats to that dog every month for a year.reply
That’s one badass dog. Imagine charging at a grizzlyreply
I had a mystery mix breed that I’m pretty sure was part rat terrier and he fucking hated horses and donkeys. Over his 12 year life I heard him bark twice ever and it was at horses both times. My friend’s mom had a donkey and he used to chase it around. He was a menace.reply
Our mini dachshund did the exact same thing lol. She was 16 years old still catching and killing big rats with one shake. Most badass dog evrrreply
Dogs instincts are to protect the pack. Size has nothing to do with it. A chihuahua would attack an asteroidreply
> I got charged by a grizzly camping with a couple friends in the Alaskan backcountry They go camping too?!reply
"Yo momma so fat that when she goes camping the bears lock up their food."reply
I'm bummed the grizzly has more friends than me, too.reply
Yeah, all the time.reply
I assumed the bear owned the campsite and that's why they were charging. I'd be pretty mad if I ran a campsite and some dudes just set up and started fishing for free.reply
'Honey I'll quickly run over to the new campers and collect their fee. Be right back.' 'Can you believe this? They set their dog on me!! I'm calling the police!'reply
dogs don't really get scale. had a small poodle who would chase cowsreply
See the thing is that it *works*, so I can't blame them. Most predators have to be careful fighting because if they're injured they can't hunt and they'll die. Dogs and other pack predators often don't have that same instinct, so they're willing to do almost anything for the good of the pack. So the dog thought *"I'll do anything to scare this guy off or else he'll hurt the pack!"* and he was right. It's not stupid if it works.reply
Once my brother and I were walking in the woods. Saw the ass of a black bear. It was running full speed away from us taking trees out in the process. Grizzly is so much bigger. Think my hairs would just all jump out.reply
People in general do not understand what bears are capable of. I once got a guy arguing with me that the best place to hide from a black bear was a tree. He was serious. When I showed him a video of a black bear going up a tree as fast as if it was horizontal, he just said he would kick it in the face if it came up after him. Whenever I see someone doing the "Kodiak bear VS gorilla" argument, I know whoever thinks the gorilla stands a chance doesn't know what a Kodiak bear is.reply
>Whenever I see someone doing the "Kodiak bear VS gorilla" argument, I know whoever thinks the gorilla stands a chance doesn't know what a Kodiak bear is. I thought it'd be a more even fight. Then I just googled it and saw the size difference. The bear is 3 times bigger than the gorilla. I guess I thought gorillas were bigger.reply
Up until your comment, I was nodding along blissfully. Then you said 3x. And I realized I’m people. Idk how the fuck big a kodiak is lol. Now I’m questioning all my previously held bear beliefs.reply
Just remember, black bears are the raccoons of bears, more afraid of you than you are of them. But also remember they can still be 200-600 lbs, could absolutely fuck you up, and are one of the smallest bear species. That’s about all you need to knowreply
Also if you get attacked by a black bear there is a 99.99999% it's your fault for being a dumbass.reply
yuuuuup. i grew up in an area with tons of black bears, but no brown bears. i always joke that if i ever plan to spend much time in nature anywhere where there are brown bears, then i’d need to dedicate some serious time to retraining my brain because, exactly like you said, i fully see black bears the same way i do raccoons lmaoooo. it’s not because i’m not aware that they can be dangerous, i just know for a fact that they’re going to mind their own beeswax if i mind mine. similar to raccoons, our main problem has always been keeping them out of our trash cans and dumpsters. when i was a teenager, we had to lock our dumpsters at work literally solely because EVERY SINGLE TIME the dumpster wasn’t secured, bears would genuinely open it and pull out every single bag they could reach & tear them open in the parking lot, leaving us with a huge mess to clean as soon as we came in in the morning. same with being at home, just on a smaller scale. i would have to make such an active effort to not just be like, “oh, a bear!! good thing i can just stay right where i am and it will stay right where it is :)”reply
black ones run away if you yell at them brown ones usually leave you alone if you play dead white ones just eat you brown ones are also susceptible to magdumps, but it's hardly guaranteed e: i'm talking about _bears_. christ on a crutch.reply
Seriously?!? I knew they were faster than me, I just had no idea they could be that fastreply
Take a slow moving friend with you, it will buy you timereply
Now hear me out. Bear racing.reply
I’m listeningreply
Honestly surprised this isn't the #1 Russian past time sportreply
I’m a nurse, worked in an AIDS clinic for a while, before anti-retrovirals. All our patients died. Now it’s a manageable chronic illness, at least in the US.top-level
My mom was in a medical study and everyone else in the study died. The lead researcher in the study seemed to take it as her personal mission that my mom was going to live. At one point she'd gotten promoted out of taking patients but she kept my mom. She'd even introduce my mom to visiting foreign researchers as the patient who lived. My mom did end up dying 20ish years later, but not from the disease that was supposed to kill her. Given how much work she put into my mom, I think losing everyone else really must've been painful.reply
I will never not b upset about this...lost both my parents to AIDS (from drugs/shared needle-1988 & 1991) horrible way to go-close to torture back then & no one understood...I got kicked out of elementary for mentioning AIDS w/the DARE cop there...craziness...reply
What an extremely difficult thing to go through, especially as a child. Then your school doing that… I hope you’re doing okay now🫂reply
> lost both my parents to AIDS I read this and the stab of sorrow I felt was pretty stunning. How are you? If you want to answer that specific to that loss or in general I am interested in both.reply
We must be the same generation. I remember hearing about children like you. It's hard for others to understand the utter fear and confusion in this country surrounding hiv and aids back then. And then to have something like this happen to you is heartbreaking. I hope you're doing wellreply
Have never heard of a DARE cop who made a positive impact on a life.reply
Yeah the only thing I've ever heard about DARE is that it taught a lot of kids a lot of drug tradecraft they'd never have thought about otherwise.reply
Thank you for taking care of them when almost no one else would. 🩷reply
I lost my uncle, his partner, and a close family friend within a year of each other. Thank you so much for your care and compassion.reply
my mom worked as a nurse during the aids crisis too, she did home care... she's mentioned stories of moments where a patient was shocked she would touch them, or patients whose significant other would try to pretend to be just a friend, worrying about her seeing them holding hands or anything... i'm so proud of her for it all, i think about it all the time. she was never homophobic so she treated their partners well, encouraged them to be affectionate if they wanted to be rather than hiding it from her, and she didn't ever treat anyone with disgust or fear... she made so many of those men feel less lonely and less frightened... it amazes her how far the science has come, too, and she's cried a few times over it -- sometimes from relief that now people don't have to suffer the same way, but also sadness for the people gone...reply
I've seen statistics showing that patients with managed ~~AIDS~~ HIV live longer than the general population now, since they go to check ups more frequently and find unrelated issues sooner. Not 100% sure on the accuracy of that though.reply
HIV positive, not AIDS.reply
This. AIDS is essentially the end stage of the HIV virus. HIV positive means you still have a functioning immune system. The reason it went undetected for so long was that HIV itself isn't a lethal virus, but since it targets the immune system people were getting all kinds of different opportunistic infections.reply
I work with a lot of HIV+ patients. They live very normal lives. Affording meds is a big problem, but as long as they have them, one pill a day can make someone undetectable, so they can’t even spread HIV, let alone develop AIDS. We even have an injectable treatment now that you get every two months (Cabenuva), and that’s their whole treatment for HIV. PrEP is a goddamn medical miracle, too. I honestly end up in the verge of tears when I talk about it. I think of all the people lost to AIDS. The fear especially back before there was even a test for HIV, so you couldn’t know if you even had it or not. And now… we can just treat HIV incredibly effectively.reply
25 years ago I worked with an HIV+ in Seattle. Everyone he knew diagnosed before him was dead. He was on what he thought was going to be his death bed, he took early anti-retrovirals trial of zidovudine, saved his life. He was able to get his meds dialed really well. They got him an extra 40 years. He passed last year. Cried a little that his obituary said he passed peacefully in his sleep from 'natural causes' :) Thank you for your work nurse person. I know that wards were very difficult places in the 80s.reply
The chameleon plant. Like WTF. How can it know what other plants look like without vision? "Boquila trifoliolata, a South American chameleon vine, has been documented to mimic the shape, size, and color of artificial plastic plants, even when no chemical or genetic cues exist for it to copy."top-level
Isn’t there a species of starfish that is thought to be able to see, despite not having eyes? The thought of vision independently developing without eyesight is terrifyingly fascinatingreply
I think it comes down to how you (singular) define eye.reply
Humans tend to have a very human-centric idea of how experience works in generalreply
The romans said it was 1.reply
> The thought of vision independently developing without eyesight is terrifyingly fascinating I mean, Bats have echo location, that's *basically* sight without eyes... even though bats also have eyes.reply
I want to point out here that bats can see. A lot of them have good night vision. They echolocate because they fly through the air quickly and are trying to get tiny flying targets into their mouth.reply
Combined with the thought of eyesight evolving independently over 40 different times.reply
Eyes have evolved independently about 11 times, so far as we know.reply
You should look up people who are blind but do not have classical US handicap training. A lot develop their own echolocation and can basically 3d map the world in their head. Amazing stuff.reply
When I looked up "chameleon plant" I was directed to Houttuynia cordata and became *very* confused for a moment. 👀 Edit I see that Boquila Trifoliolata is called the "chamelion *vine*", not the "chameleon plant" 😃reply
Doesnt need eyes for photoreceptionreply
That thing is crazy.reply
Supposedly people who have been deaf from birth but who aren't mute do not make the same sounds when sneezing as people who are not deaf. The implication is that the sound you make when you sneeze is learned. That freaks me out because I feel like it is sort of an unstoppable innate sound that I've always had.top-level
my wife is French, every sneeze is EHHHHhum...aaaaareply
When I was in university i heard a girl sneeze in a way that fully shattered my belief in sneezing being an innate sound. Next time I sneezed I tried it. Turns out you can just pick a sound and do it when you sneeze, becomes automatic surprisingly quicklyreply
My brother sneezes and he sounds like he's doing karate. I noticed it when I was a kid and started doing it without realizing it.reply
lol my dad's like this. "Hai....yish!"reply
We know the sneeze is learned because when men have kids (biologically or not) they’re actually taken to a secret training day to learn The Dad Sneeze. I believe there are prizes for the loudest onereply
I learned that some people cannot intentionally control the sound of their sneezes, which is something I can do. I can choose to sneeze loudly, quietly, vocalized or not. One of my friends cannot change his sneeze noises at all, and claims it is impossible.reply
The discovery of The Great Attractor. A massive gravitational anomaly that is pulling everything in its neighborhood, including the Milky Way Galaxy towards it at rates of +/- 700km per second. We have no idea what it is, because we can't observe it through our own galactic zone of avoidance, but it's estimated to be roughly 10^16 solar masses. [link removed]top-level
To be clear, the Great Attractor probably isn't some unusual object not found elsewhere in the Universe. It's probably just a lot of concentrated galaxies and dark matter. We *know* there are a lot of galaxies there, it's just hard to tell how many and how much mass they and their accompanying dark matter account for. Also, we aren't really moving *towards* it at 700km/s. The 700km/s is the amount that the Milky Way's speed deviates in its direction, but due to the expansion of the Universe we are in fact still moving away from it at a few thousand kilometers per second and will not collide with it anytime in the future.reply
Oh thank goodness. Memorial Day is coming up and I'm really looking forward to grilling with our friends.reply
Bad news about Memorial day in 300 000 millions years…reply
>700km per second The size and speed of things in space is so mind-boggling that I don’t even know if this is fast or slowreply
It isn't particularly fast on the cosmic scale, but you have to keep in mind that this isn't just acting on single planets or stars, but whole galaxies . . . About 100,000 galaxies in its cosmic neighborhood are all being pulled in towards it, and it isn't just a velocity, it's an acceleration, so we move towards it faster the closer we get to whatever it is.reply
Even the most supermassive black holes that we know of are not capable of doing what the Great Attractor is doing.reply
Great Attractor sounds so much happier than a black hole. Like ooh, is it gonna be a big exciting party full of beautiful people that we all wanna go visit? Or is it a hole leading to the black depths of nothingness?reply
Or worse: it’ll just be a pizza party in the break room at workreply
The most likely culprit is a large galaxy cluster. Probably a prosaic explanation. Still cool, though.reply
Or just a stupid amount of galaxies bunched togetherreply
or a type 3 aliens civilization with some freakish tech gathering resources this wayreply
a galactic recycling centerreply
It's pretty fast. The earth is orbiting the sun at something like 20-30km/s The sun is orbiting the Milky Way at [230Km/s]([link removed] 700Km/s would therefore seem pretty fast as far as celestial objects go relative to our galaxy.reply
Which shows how vast space really is. We are traveling insanely fast as a whole, but to where?! And how much more room can there be?!reply
I mean, even at the speed of light it takes 8 minutes just to cross the distance from the earth to the sun, and 4 years to the nearest star. The speed of light is ~300,000Km/s. 700 is basically nothing in terms of actually getting anywhere. Cosmically we are basically standing still. 700 is only fast compared to how fast other objects are moving in the local group. Space is bonkers bannas bigreply
Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.reply
Context, the Milky Way has a mass of 1.5x10^12 solar masses. So it's 4 orders of magnitude greater mass than the Milky Wayreply
Eureka, i just got it. It's your mom.reply
Oh neat, never heard about this, that's really fascinating Do you know why it's speculated that there is a mass? Only because of the drift of our nearby galaxies? Couldn't a possible explanation also be some sort of oscillations or turbulent effects at a very big scale?reply
"This thing caused the New York City blackout of 1977. A practical joke by The Great Attractor. He thought it was funny as hell"reply
Every single thing they learn about the platypustop-level
We all know how weird they look, and that they lay eggs, and they're mammals but don't have nipples, and the males have venom. Many people don't know that the platypus is one of three known mammals to have a sense of electroreception (the others are the echidna, and a type of dolphin). As far as we know the platypus and echidna (which is much less reliant on electroreception) evolved the sense entirely separately from any other animal; the nerve that goes to the electroreceptors in their bill is the trigeminal nerve, which is homologous to the trigeminal nerve in humans and other mammals. Even fewer people know -- though few are surprised -- that the platypus genome is *WEIRD*. Like, real weird. The overwhelming majority of mammals have two sex chromosomes: XX, or XY. The platypus has TEN sex chromosomes, so male platypus are XY XY XY XY XY. They also lack the SRY gene, which in most other mammals is the key to sex determination - it's pretty much what tells a developing fetus to start developing testes, which in turn leads to testosterone production and so on. Until very recently we didn't know how sex determination worked in platypus, but we've recently discovered that they do have a gene called AMH, which is another gene that contributes (but does not *initiate*) sex determination in mammals. That's weird, and also interesting that AMH is found on the 'oldest' chromosome, X1, which *also* is more homologous to the Z chromosome, from the ZW sex-chromosome set that is found primarily in *birds*. This suggests that there was separate, convergent evolution in monotremes and other mammals. There's also some random reptilian homologies thrown in there, too, just for good measure. It's really true that everything we learn about them makes them seem even stranger. Bonus facts if you made it this far: they also have cheek pockets like hamsters, and can use their tail to carry nesting materials!reply
Bonus 2: Platypi have no teeth or stomachs! They eat soft-bodied critters like worms which they hoover out from riverbeds, along with grit and tiny pebbles. After smashing up their lunch with the keratinous plates in their bill, the food passes directly into the intestines, where the grit and pebbles help a little bit more with the processing since its all being ground up together by gut muscles.reply
Additional fun fact. They glow under UV light, like a scorpion.reply
[What does blue mean? ]([link removed]reply
In March this year a study published in Biology Letters found that platypus fur contains unique hollow, spherical melanosomes—pigment structures—a feature never before seen in mammals and previously known only in bird feathersreply
Interestingly, they actually had teeth at one point, but modern ones don't. We had fossil platypus skulls back in school that had teeth in them.reply
See, I'm obsessive about them, and even I can't keep track of all the weird things about them!reply
>The platypus has TEN sex chromosomes, so male platypus are XY XY XY XY XY. Every single time I read about platypuses I learn some new weird-ass thing about them.reply
[Also they glow green and blue under UV light]([link removed] >Biofluorescence — absorbing and re-emitting light as a different color — is widespread in fish, amphibians, birds and reptiles. But the trait is much rarer in mammals, and this is the first evidence of biofluorescence in egg-laying mammals, also known as monotremes, scientists reported in a new study.reply
This guy platypuses.reply
Want to blow your mind even more? Echidnas, the spiky anteater closely related to them? It's ancestors were also similar to platypuses. As in they were aquatic predators with a proto-bill that evolved into the ant eater trunk thing. Also they're further evidence that the early mammalforms were venomous too. That all mammals were originally venomous before we lost it.reply
They lay eggs…???reply
Duck bill, furry beaver tail, mammal that lay eggs, sweat milk, one of the *very* few venomous mammals, they have patterns that glow under UV/blacklight, they have cheek pouches for food like a ~~guinea pig~~ hamster, they don't have teeth as adult but sort of as kids, has a noticably lower body temperature than most mammals, have a cloaca like birds and reptiles, spines on their penis, a non-functioning ovary, they can sense electric signals and use it similar to echolocation in water like some fish, etc.reply
And they're venomous (have stingers)reply
I'm too tired to think of a Perry the Platypus jokereply
They glow teal under UV lightreply
They sweat milk and fight pharmacistsreply
When a specimen was brought back to Europe all the other scientists thought it was a hoax.reply
We don't know how effective the rabies vaccine is. We know it works pretty well, likely somewhere between 80% and 100%, but for obvious reasons it's impossible to test on humans, and rabies is difficult to determine exposure, because it isn't the most transmissible disease and often times the infected animal isn't even recovered. So a possible exposure may not have been an exposure at all.top-level
Peritoneal dialysis. So dialysis is normally a machine that replaces a kidney. But peritoneal dialysis is when you get a bunch of clean fluid injected into your abdominal cavity and let it slosh around all day. Then at the end of the day you place a drain to let this fluid that's now kinda like urine slosh out. Somehow this works almost as well as a real kidney.top-level
Unfortunately comes with high infection risk and the fluid is 2-4% dextrose, so really rough for someone with diabetes.reply
Yeah my dad gained weight hand over fist on peritoneal.reply
My mother caught an infection and developed sepsis on PD. She was careless with the hygiene protocalls.reply
Unfortunately, a large percentage of these patients are on dialysis as a complication from their diabetes.reply
Ooh fascinating I've never heard of this!reply
I was doing peritoneal dialysis at home for almost 11 hrs a day a few years ago - my kidneys were barely functioning. I had to do an exchange every 4 hours, and the fluid would drain (with a long hose) into my tub, and then warm fluid (3 liters) would fill my peritoneal cavity! The maintenance was a pain, but it kept me alive. I have since had a kidney transplant 😊reply
It works great, and can easily be done at home. The main challenge is cost and logistics as it involves huge quantities of the fluid, like getting whole pallets regularly delivered.reply
Yeah after my dad died, we had SO MUCH dialysis fluid in the house still. It was in big bags, each bag inside a cardboard box. They couldn’t take it back, and nobody else could use it. So we had to dispose of it ourselves. We ended up hauling all the bags outside, slashing them, and letting all that fluid run down the driveway. I remember feeling ill at all the waste.reply
It's because the abdominal cavity has a membrane (the aforementioned peritoneum) that's rather permeable somewhat like an actual dialysis membrane. And since it pretty richly supplied with blood vessels it works like dialysis, but a bit slower than directly cleaning out the blood, but beats being hooked up to a machine and basically unable to move for several hoursreply
Former PD patient here can confirm it’s considerably better quality of life than hemodialysis. Being able to clean your blood at home while sleeping was tedious but way better than sitting at the clinic for 5 hours 3 days a week. During my transplant they just removed the tubing while I was in surgery woke up with a kidney hitting the ground running. Donate your organs!reply
Different animals experience time at different rates. Smaller animals with faster metabolisms experience time more slowly.top-level
How do we know that?reply
[link removed] This one is about visual perception and temporal perception. Can’t find the study linking metabolism atmreply
You’ve just handed me evidence suggesting that a real Sandevistan implant could be made.reply
Surprisingly, the article suggests it would work the same way it is explained in-game: by enhancing your reflexes it would naturally make the world feel slower. Pretty cool science more than fiction.reply
that'd take some getting used to - something happens and, instead of reacting, you have to wait for things to progress to the point where you _should_ move.reply
wasnt there also one where they found Bees keep track of time? someone took a swarm overseas and they functioned in their old timezone despite sun differences for a few daysreply
Mantis shrimp's punch. That impossible punch similar to a .22 bullet, 1500+ newtons of force and the cavitation bubble that reaches tempreature hotter than the surface of sun. All of this in under 3 milli second. WHAT.top-level
Keep in mind that this punch is executed underwater, with all the momentum-killing water resistance that implies. They can't be kept in regular aquariums because of this. Mantis shrimps can *punch through glass*.reply
And those things are relatively tiny, not longer than a hand. And they can do this.reply
The water resistance is actually irrelevant, as the mantis shrimp's biology allows for the maximum possible force generation no matter what they're punching through medium wise. They also have 12-16 different types of photoreceptor cells in their eyes, which is 4x+ more than we have. They can see colors and wavelengths of light we can't even imagine. Crazy little fellas.reply
They actually can’t see any more colors than us besides UV. Their cones are incredibly narrow so they basically see 12-16 exact colors, unlike our eyes which average the colors between the three broadly absorbing cones we have. That does mean however, that means mixing colors wouldn’t result in other colors for them. If you mixed blue and yellow, we would see green but they would see blue and yellow *simultaneously* instead. Which is equally crazy to mereply
Exactly. Its like an alien in the water.reply
Somewhere deep in the ocean, there are sharks that were alive in the year 1550....top-level
Yeah Greenland sharks can live several hundred years. It’s wild.reply
>They reach sexual maturity around 150 years of age and their pups are born alive after an estimated [gestation]([link removed] period of 8 to 18 yearsreply
They kick their kids out when they turn 18? r/raisedbynarcissists ass motherfuckersreply
Look at this 178 year old virgin lolreply
Sharks are older than trees.reply
Sharks are older than the rings of Saturnreply
Maybe but maybe not. Originally, it was thought the rings were young (ie less than 450M years compared to the planet which is over 4.5B years old), because of how clean they are. But a new theory suggests they are self cleaning and are just as old as the planet itself. And computer modeling using data from numerous flybys does support the hypothesis. I think the rings being young is still the predominant theory, but it’s at least not as certain.reply
Cool, just like my vagina.reply
Why did I immediately picture a shark in Renaissance clothing and the hat?...reply
Because hats were in fashion at the time.reply
Sharks who were alive in the year 1550... Are you talking about Rupert Murdochreply
In the year two thouSAAAAANNDDDD!reply
It’s a 15-foot biological ghost. It moves so slowly it’s practically stationary, its heart only beating once every 12 seconds. It doesn't chase prey; it’s a "sleep assassin." It drifts through the pitch-black silence like a piece of sentient driftwood, gliding toward seals while they sleep and swallowing them before they even wake up. ​Most are "zombies"—blinded by parasites that eat their eyeballs and hang from the sockets like wriggling, milky tassels. It’s a 400-year-old, toxic monster that’s never in a rush. It doesn’t need to be fast. It just waits for you to stop moving. Scary stuff.reply
If we were to zoom in as far as possible until we get to the smallest unit of measurement possible, Planck's Length, and then tried to zoom in even further beyond that - the amount of energy required to do so would be so locally-dense that it would create a singularity (black hole).top-level
Pretty crazy that at a certain point our rules of physics just stop working. The black hole thing is theoretical of course. To probe smaller and smaller distances, you need shorter wavelengths, which means higher energy particles. Eventually the energy required becomes so concentrated in such a tiny region that, according to general relativity, it might collapse into a microscopic black hole instead of revealing a smaller structure. Wild stuff.reply
ENHANCE! OH SHITreply
That's not realities' fault, our current laws of physics just aren't very good! They deal very well with most, or even all, observable phenomena. So did Newton's laws for a few centuries. Until we were able to observe more, and some realy smart people developed on those. Same thing will probably happen again. Planck Constant and Black Holes are currently unsolvable mysteries. But as long as we get more really clever engineers inventing new ways to observe things and realy clever physisicist to interpret that new data, our laws of physics will continue to get more accurate. Planck's Constant is not a constant. And Black Holes don't stop time at the event horizon. Our current theories and math say different, but that's because that's how far we've come in understanding the universe. Not because we already hold universal truths.reply
> That's not realities' fault, our current laws of physics just aren't very good! God the devs need to get around to patching some shit instead of coming out with these shitty expansions with ridiculous stories.reply
But if you zoomed all the way in then just held a magnifying glass up to the screen? Boom...gitcha sciencereply
I'm game if you are, you bring the beer, I'll meet you at the lab.reply
There are more cells in what you consider your body that are not you (bacteria) than cells that are youtop-level
But the 'foreign' cells have much less mass than your body's cells, so they only make up a very small proportion of your total body mass.reply
Just the vastness of space. And that it’s expanding. Into what? Into nothing? That doesn’t work in my brain.top-level
There's a lot about ontological physics and our understanding of the universe that we can't visualize in our brains. So much of our understanding is explained through math, and inferred through diagrams. We know it, but can't visualize it.reply
I'm not religious anymore, but I still like the Bible verse that goes, "He has also set eternity in the human heart; yet no one can fathom what God has done from beginning to end." I love that idea that we can conceive of eternity/infinity but can't really understand it because it's so far outside of human experience. A lot of big physics questions make me think of it.reply
> I love that idea that we can conceive of eternity/infinity but can't really understand it because it's so far outside of human experience. And as they say, "the universe is under no obligation to make sense to us". An astronomer (I forget her name, but she's got a couple of wonderful Youtube videos) gave the example of how a grasshopper literally has no way to understand calculus--it's likely much the same for humans and the creation/construction of the universe. I would guess we are far, far, far from "the apex of consciousness/intelligence in our universe".reply
What gets me every time I remember it is this. We all know the earth is spinning on its axis, and then also orbiting around the Sun. But it doesn't end there. Not only is that happening but our entire solar system is in motion. And then our entire galaxy is moving....my brain simply cannot process that and freaks me out if I think about it too longreply
And that all adds up to me...sitting on the toilet....actually going near the speed of light.reply
“Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.” ― **Douglas Adams,** [The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy]([link removed]reply
>Space. It’s huge. So huge, in fact, that if you lost your car keys in it - they would be *almost impossible* to find. — Captain Copernicus L. Quarkreply
"Space, it just seems to go on forever, but then you get to the end and a monkey starts throwing barrels at you." - Phillip J. Fryreply
Yeah I literally can't think about it without getting mentally distraughtreply
Honestly same. I started feeling better about it when I thought about an ant’s perspective. Humans cross oceans all the time, but an ant doesn’t know what an ocean is. Same with an amoeba, they could never comprehend my front yard. But an ant could. So when I think about not being able to comprehend how vast space is, I feel better knowing that that’s a normal thing. If an ant doesn’t need to worry about how big the ocean is, then I shouldn’t have to worry about how big space is. And hey, maybe there’s some giant alien out there that can comprehend it just finereply
Reminds me of the ending scene in MIB as it zooms out from earth to the giant alien picking up the galaxy marblereply
It's not expanding into anything, it's expanding within. Space time itself is stretching.reply
Youre not helpingreply
It's like a balloon. How does a balloon get more surface? Space might expand the same way (by expanding into a 4th dimension). This also explains what happens to things on the surface of the balloon, put dots on a partially filled balloon and fill it up- the dots get farther apart. EVERY dot gets farther from EVERY OTHER dot. And if you travel in a straight line fast enough, you can end up right where you started.reply
Wireless signal transmission sounds like magic.top-level
wait till you hear about wireless power transmissionreply
people who work in RF are wizards. Just look at a smiths chart and try to understand it. What do you mean I can just make a little squiggle on a PCB and it acts as an antenna? I could also throw a few wires into a box and oops I accidentally made an antenna as wellreply
Haplodiploidity At it's simplest, it's a wierd way of determining sex. In Hymenoptera (ants, wasps, bees etc.), if an egg is fertilised, it becomes female but if it's not fertilised, it becomes male. So males only have half a set of DNA, all from their mother. That's pretty simple but the effects on evolution are earth shattering. Those ridiculously huge colonies of ants and bees? Wouldn't work without it. The quirks of it basically mean that a worker bee shares ~2/3rds of it's DNA with it's sisters but it only shares 50% of it's DNA with it's own sons. That means it's more beneficial from an evolutionary perspective, to raise your sisters, than your own sons and so workers actually benefit from NOT reproducing themselves, leading to these giga-colonies where self interest has been twisted into selfless co-operation. And that's before it can be twisted even further through the unique form of parasitism known as Dulosis or slave making. Honestly, I could fill this whole thread with just shit about ants. Hymenoptera saw the rules of evolution and decided they didn't want to play that game, they'd make their own version.top-level
And then it gets even crazier when you learn about Messor ibericus, an ant species that uses hybrids between it and Messor structor for its workers. Normally this would mean that they can only be found in areas also inhabited by Messor structor, but some populations have found a way to clone structor males over and over again to mate with. Messor ibericus queens can effectively produce eggs with no genes, so when the structor male fertilizes them it makes another structor male. This phenomenon of ibericus queens giving birth to structor males is called xenoparity and it’s amazing.reply
Do it.reply
Very tempting, but I'm actually currently writing up my PhD thesis on bees. Maybe in a month, when this thing is handed in, I'll have the time.reply
Genghis Khans conquests resulted in so many deaths carbon emissions significantly dropped over a century or sotop-level
That one fungus that literally takes over an insect's brain and walks its body to the highest available point from which it can more effectively propagate itself.top-level
I like how several different people responded to this with like three cmpletely different but all valid examplesreply
I grew up in Canada, now lived in Australia for 20 years. My childhood memories of car rides are now flipped, the driver on the right.reply
Gamma ray burst. One could be coming to microwave our entire planet into sterility and we won’t know until it happens.top-level
I dont think there are currently any actual known candidates in proximity of earth for that to happen iirc.reply
"Known" and "Proximity" are doing a lot of the work in making that sentence comforting but not false. We THINK we might have reasoned out some stuff about how they work, but we don't know for sure. And they don't need to be very near to kill us. We could die at any moment. But this has always been true, But it hasn't happened yet, which implies the odds are really small. I find that thought more comforting.reply
We know what they are and we know their likely sources - nova and supernova. The problem is, even if one were to pop - there is nothing we could do.reply
So, here's the thing. The speed of light isn't just the speed of light. It's the speed of causality. It's the speed of *existence*. When you see a star in the sky that's 10 light-years away. You're not just seeing that star as it was 10 years ago. For your purposes, that star is *currently* as it was 10 years ago. If an event occurred at that star 9 years ago, from your perspective, *it has not yet occurred*. That's not just a visual thing. It's literally in the future. If some star is going to emit a gamma ray burst, that doesn't just happen randomly. We can see a star swelling up for millions of years before it goes supernova. Even if you immediately teleport to the star now and notice that it's already gone supernova and then teleport back, that is the functionally the same as if you had travelled back in time, because the information of that event's existence has not yet reached Earth. From Earth's perspective, the star is still in the pre-supernova stage and will not go supernova for millions more years. But once Earth is able to see it go supernova, then the actual gamma ray burst will arrive soon after.reply
Apparently we don't just get baby teeth and adult teeth, there's a third set that doesn't usually develop, and there's a human trial in Japan of a therapy that aims to change that - regrowing teeth in adulthood is straight science fiction to me, and I'm happily baffled. [link removed]top-level
My right canine tooth is the third one. Lost the baby tooth, the adult tooth shortly died because a third one was growing in.reply
I work with cancer cells from people that died several decades ago. They're still going strong. We can freeze and thaw them indefinitely. Ship them all over the world. Probably the most popular ones have generated 1000s of times the weight of their original body. None of this is possible with cells from healthy tissues, unless you genetically make them cancerous.top-level
There was a book about the history of those cells “The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks” by Rebecca Skloot. There was also an HBO movie. The legendary “HeLa” cells were taken without Henrietta's knowledge or permission, and her family was not informed until decades later, when her cells were being used in research and commercialized. It was a huge moral and ethical scientific scandal.reply
Prionstop-level
Yes, this. A protein just bends the wrong way and all the proteins around it start doing it, too. And that's not how the body is suppose to work.reply
Some people argue that prion disease would be the most likely cause of a zombie apocalypse. Spread via consuming infected tissue (brains).reply
Send more paramedicsreply
send more cops . . .reply
Yeah, but wouldn't it just kill them instead of make them zombies? The core functions of the body fail if proteins start folding the wrong way. I like the fungi origin bettwrreply
You would think so, but there are examples of similar things that already exist in the wild such as [Chronic Wasting Disease]([link removed]reply
And mad cow disease. Just think of it like Zombie Human Disease.reply
As someone who lived through the BSE crisis in the UK I have to say prion disease is just horrifying. This came about because agricultural practices in the UK effectively forced cattle in to canabalism... Look up agriculture minister John Selwin Gummer feeding his daughter a beef burger on TV. Crazy.reply
Drugs can do this too. Ritonavir suddenly started crystalizing into Form II and became all but impossible to synthesize in Form I. Once one Form II is created, it causes a chain reaction and the entire supply line is borked. On a larger scale, the entire universe as we know it might be in a false vacuum. If a lower energy level is possible, physics as we know it could start unraveling at the speed of light.reply
Dude. Learning about disappearing polymorphs gave me existential dread. And what’s wild to me is that there’s literally no way to predict when it will happen again. And no way to know how many polymorphic forms of various substances there are. And NOTHING we can do to prevent it from happening to anything around us.reply
Cat’s Cradle, a book written by Kurt Vonnegut in 1963, has a fictional “contagious” polymorph of water, [ice-nine]([link removed] ice at room temperature, which is a terrifying prospect, although I think by now we have exposed water to every combination of temperature and pressure so it’s *probably* not going to happen.reply
True, but you might also get hit by a truck tomorrow and cease to exist as a thinking being. Best to enjoy life everyday, while being hopeful and living such that you will have many more days to enjoy.reply
Literally just the universe applying nerfs.reply
Reminds me of Ice 9 from Cat's Cradle. A rogue molecule "infects" water, changing it's freezing point to room temperature.reply
Well, yeah, that's basically what it is. A pattern representing a lower energy state basically tells the nearby molecules "wouldn't you like to relax?" and then they do, and tell all the other near them, and so onreply
I've studied HIV in the lab, and pharmacology in school, and I had somehow never heard about this (maybe because I was 10-15 years after when it happened). Incredibly interesting. Thanks for sharing!reply
It's terrifying because you can't have immunity to it (to my knowledge), and it can't be killed like a living pathogen.reply
Prions are the misfolding of the PrP protein. If you dont have or poorly express PrP, you would be highly resistant to any prion disease. Check out this paper where the researchers found a way to "silence" PrP expression to prevent disease. [link removed] Also, prions can be killed by extremely high heat, bleach, and a few other things.reply
Extremely high heat, sometimes as high as 1000°C. And if they are de-natured chemically generally not safe to consume either. No matter how you slice prions, they are hard to get rid of. As a general rule, eating life forms lower on the food chain like plants is a good idea (avoid fertilizing those plants too much with critters higher on the food chain). Cannibalism isn't a great idea. If you are going to eat people, its best to eat people that _aren't_ cannibals. And try to avoid the brain and spine as much as would be reasonably possible. Still, the fact that Mad Cow Disease can spread by fertilizing crops that are going to be fed to cows with left over remains from cows is a bit concerning. I don't think there is a really good way to make Soylent Green a sustainable dietary addition.reply
There are an unfathomable number of unfathomably small particles called neutrinos passing through all of us, and Earth, all the time. The only way we(humanity) have found to detect them without interference is to build giant underground water tanks that essentially watch for the tiny bit of light that is produced when one of them collides with a water molecule. Working in IT, I'm confident that very rarely, one of them strikes a PC component, be it in a server or consumer devices, and flips a bit. [link removed]top-level
Blind people (born that way) can't get schizophrenia. At least no case has been documented. That just really disturbs me. Edit: You have to be born blind to not get schizophrenia, and no, blinding people will not magically cure them of the condition. Edit2: I seem to have been misinformed, there are indeed some cases, but far fewer than one would expect if the issues were unrelated. See the comments for more information, somewhere after all the nonsense.top-level
I'm no fan of the blind either, but I don't think they deserve schizophrenia. Just let them have this one win, offensivek.reply
"No fan of the blind"reply
It's ok, they won't be reading this.reply
There's braille devices that can access reddit. They'll feel it coming.reply
Ok Phil Collinsreply
Oh Lordreply
I’ve been waiting for this momentreply
All of my life.reply
> There's braille devices that can access reddit Aren't the blind suffering enough already?reply
I know you ment this comment as a joke, but I laughed because I'm blind and reading with voice over on my iphone.reply
To add to this, blind people can’t but deaf people can, so there’s something specifically about being able to see that in some way affects the ability to develop schizophrenia. It is really scary.reply
Schizophrenic deaf people from birth hallucinate ASL visuals instead of anything auditory. It's disturbing to me how the condition tailors itself to our primary form of communication.reply
It is a disease of the mind, as weird as it is I’m not surprised that it reflects the mind’s experience.reply
And yet, for blind people, it doesn't. So it's a disease specifically for some visual portion of the brain. Would someone who was blinded at birth due to non-genetic reasons also be unable to develop it? Why? So weird.reply
It's a good question. My guess would be that it would have to be before visual memories can be formed so that the visual cortex takes on some other function. This typically begins in the first 4-8 months of life. I'd wager that if someone lost sight prior to four months old, they still couldn't get schizophrenia, but it would be interesting if this were studied. Note that a common cause of blindness at that age is retinoblastoma, a form of retinal cancer.reply
But to add a little bit of sunshine to your dark thoughts, babies who are deaf and exposed to signing "babble" in sign language in a similar way as hearing babies babble vocally.reply
I'm now curious if there are different patterns/manifestations of schizophrenia in people with aphantasia.reply
I’m schizophrenic, but have been stable on meds for about 2 and a half years. I used to have a rich inner monologue for my entire life, and before my first bout with psychosis. After my auditory hallucinations finally went away due to being on medication, I developed a kind of aphantasia as sort of a PTSD response. Now if my inner monologue starts to kick in, I react by reflexively shutting it down. It sucks, I miss it, but I understand why my body is doing things this way. It’s scared of relapse. Schizophrenia is fucking horrifying, and I wouldn’t wish it upon even my worst enemies.reply
I’m so sorry to hear that. Glad you have it under control. Hopefully one day there will be a permanent cure.reply
Oh thank you! I’m doing really good, though. I’ve made a full recovery, and have a great psychiatrist and family that keeps an eye on me. I’m really lucky because I tolerate the medication extremely well, and for a lot of people that’s not the case, so they stop taking it, and relapse.reply
Such a huge portion of our brain is dedicated to visual processing, and it connects with many other parts of the brain in complicated ways. I wonder if it's really the underdevelopment of this part and its connections that prevents it.reply
When you don’t use your visual cortex for vision, it gets recruited to do other stuff, usually I think sensory stuff like hearing. This happens quickly enough that studies have shown that people who used blindfolds to block out all vision consistently for a few weeks demonstrated changes in how their brains functioned that could be visualized via fMRI. When the blindfolds were removed, the visual data was experienced as confusing and overwhelming and it took them a while to switch back over to processing the visual data normally again Brains are weird and coolreply
It *might* be a coincidence. People used to think that castrated men didn't get hernias, so it was commonplace for physicians to castrate men after pushing their intestines back in to keep the problem from recurring. Turns out it's just that the two conditions are sufficiently unlikely that most people never encountered one person with both.reply
Jesus Christ, what?! "Sorry I chopped off your balls, we mistook correlation for causation. My b."reply
Medicine before the scientific method is pretty terrifying.reply
Blind and Schizophrenic would be such a bad lot in life.reply
Blind Schizos would be a great band name.reply
It's taken, by me, I just took itreply
There are some documented case of people being born blind and having schizophrenia, but it is less likely still. Some studies have narrowed it down to not finding any cases of congenital cortical blindness and schizophrenia, while congenital peripheral blindness can be found with schizophrenia. Congenital cortical blindness is also less common than congenital peripheral blindness. With peripheral blindness there is something wrong with the eye or optic nerve itself, the part that captures and transmits visual signals. While with cortical blindness there is something wrong with the occipital cortex, which is the part of the brain that processes visual signals. Some hypothesis for how it protects against schizophrenia: * Damage to the occipital cortex could also be damaging parts of the brain that cause schizophrenia. * Congenital cortical blindness may cause the occipital cortex to be rewired for other functions, and this rewiring may provide protection against schizophrenia * A cluster of perceptual and cognitive functions become significantly enhanced in cases of congenital blindness, it's possible those functions also protect against schizophrenia. Though this would apply to both cortical and peripheral blindness. You can read more about it, along with documented cases of congenital blindness and schizophrenia, in the paper "Schizophrenia and cortical blindness: protective effects and implications for language" by Leivada and Boeckxreply
I have a sincere question which may sound like an asshole question and may very well be an ignorant asshole question...but how does a blind person confirm if an auditory hallucination is or is not from the existing environment around them? Could false confirmation of the auditory hallucination's existence come from another auditory hallucination?reply
You can say that to every sense, and also to your whole interpretation of reality in general But that's exactly why so many schizophrenic people don't get therapy. They have a false interpretation of the world around them and are missing the ability to confirm for themselves what's right and wrong It's really sad. When you see weird homeless people shouting nonsense into the air or similar, very often it's schizophrenia. And because they don't know they misinterpret things, many of them refuse to get help. And after some months or years, they just die. I had a (very short) somewhat shizophrenic episode myself and realized afterwards how shockingly short the path from a more or less functional life to pure animalistic surviving with no chance to get help can bereply
I've only had one clear delusional episode and snapped out of it within a few minutes of it being challenged, but still. Was after a major seizure. I was absolutely and totally certain they were filming a movie in the hospital and I couldn't move or go pee because it would 'mess up the shot' The delusion was just an accepted *fact* - no more worthy of reconsideration than whether gravity would keep working when I stood up. Your self-monitoring loop just develops a total blindspot. It's utterly fascinating and horrifying (random edit: I used the term delusional episode instead of just delusion because one of the defining features of delusions are their stability against conflicting and contradictory information. There's rarely a point in arguing about this simply because people with psychotic delusions can struggle with some kinds of insight. Which amounts to self-monitoring in my book, but it's a more important concept than that. Mine was a transient side effect that sort of dissipated over a few hours and once i got out it didn't quite make sense anymore. Not sure how well that tracks with other causes of this sort of thing. Still a very deeply eye opening experience. Well familiar with the biology and psychology of it, but actual experience is something different)reply
I saw a video showing medical alert type dog trained for this. When the owner gives a command, the dog will alert if someone is there and stay quiet if nobody is there. I had never seen that before and thought it was amazing. I know there have been times where I was alone in the house and thought I heard something, but my most scaredy cats were happily chilling, so it convinced me not to worry.reply
I mean, couldn't you ask the same question of a sighted person? Maybe right now the real people in your life are pleading with you to acknowledge them while you hallucinate posting on Reddit.reply
Science shit I choose not to think too hard aboutreply
Don't look up the delayed-choice double-slit experiment, then.reply
Jesus christ fucking what. The double slit was already too much for me!reply
I love the double slit, it humbles us It's like we have everything all figured out, but here's this one peak at reality that shows us something way different is going on.reply
We almost didn't make it. At some point, the main human population dwindled to less than a thousand individuals.top-level
I read thats why there isn't as much variation in humans as we should have. Or something to that effect.reply
> there isn't as much variation in humans as we should have From the perspective of another species, we must all appear like clones.reply
My claim to fame: I was the third person on earth to know this. When I was in grad school my advisor and his old advisor figured this out over a very long day and a half. I mean they suspected for a while but they did a bunch of simulations to put limits on their estimate. Was leaving around midnight and I found my advisor staggering down the hall just exhausted and flabbergasted. He was in no shape to drive so I drove him home, and on the way he told me what they'd found. Was so gobsmacked I'm not sure I slept that night myself. The date has since been refined with more data but the result remains - we were once *that close* to going out.reply
It was associated with climate change caused by the Mount Toba eruption event, right?reply
Volcanologist here! I happened to write a short essay on this subject for a seminar not too long ago, so I have some notes from my perusal of the literature. It's not my area of expertise, but generally that theory has fallen out of favor. Here's what I've gathered: In the late 1970s, a widespread volcanic ash layer – later identified as the Younger Toba Tuff (YTT) was recovered from marine sediment cores and linked to a subsequent positive excursion in marine oxygen isotopic records (Ninkovich et al., 1978b, 1978a; Lee et al., 1999). During periods of increased glaciation, the lighter oxygen isotope (16O) is preferentially evaporated from the oceans and precipitated on ice sheets, leaving the remaining seawater isotopically enriched in 18O. This signal is recorded in marine sediments in the bodies of small marine animals whose biogenic silicate and carbonate shells precipitate from seawater. This result matches closely with the oxygen isotope record of the GISP2 Greenland ice core and with a pronounced sulfate spike that resided in the atmosphere for six years (Zielinski et al., 1996b). The source of the YTT was identified as a massive eruption of the Toba caldera, located in modern-day Lake Toba on the island of Sumatra, Indonesia. Multiple dating techniques constrain the age of this eruption to ~73-75 ka (Ninkovich et al., 1978a; Chesner et al., 1991). An order of magnitude larger than the 1815 Tambora eruption, this catastrophic VEI 8 event ejected 2,500-3,000 km3 of dense rock equivalent and produced an eruption column reaching ~32 km in height (Rampino and Self, 1992). By the early 1990s, it was proposed that the most recent Toba eruption caused regional or global cooling of ~3-5ºC, potentially amplifying a shift toward glacial conditions that were already underway (Rampino and Self, 1992, 1993; Zielinski et al., 1996b). For comparison, the 1815 Tambora eruption, famously associated with the “Year Without a Summer,” is estimated to have caused a global surface temperature decrease of ~0.7ºC (Stothers, 1984). Perhaps, then, the Toba-induced cooling and acid rain may have had farreaching ecological consequences (Rampino and Self, 1992; Ambrose, 1998). It is worth noting these hypotheses emerged following a Cold War-era period of heightened interest in the effects of “nuclear winter” or other catastrophic climate forcing on global climate. One of the earliest critiques emphasized that climate modeling for the Toba eruption (AKA Younger Toba Tuff, or YTT) is only as constrained as the input parameters. In particular, sulfur yield estimates, the primary driver of volcanogenic cooling, span multiple orders of magnitude (3.5-330•10^10 kg), leading to variable estimates of climatic impact (Zielinski et al., 1996b; Bekki et al., 1996; Scaillet et al., 1998; Oppenheimer, 2002). Revised estimates suggest the global cooling effect was closer to ~1ºC (Oppenheimer, 2002). In addition, the dating uncertainty of the GISP2 ice core at the depth of the assumed YTT sulfate layer was ±5 kyr, and could have therefore been attributed to the cumulative effect of multiple smaller eruptions (Scaillet et al., 1998). Importantly, the climate was already unstable before the Toba eruption (Zielinski et al., 1996b). While the age of the YTT eruption is relatively well constrained, the timing, magnitude, and geographic extent of the demographic bottleneck is not, complicating direct comparison. This was not the first time Toba had erupted. The eruption that deposited the Oldest Toba Tuff (~840 ka) was presumably comparable in magnitude to the YTT, but instead coincided with climate warming and deglaciation (Williams, 2012). Other super eruptions (>20) have occurred throughout the evolutionary history of the Homo genus, and did not lead to a population bottleneck (Oppenheimer, 2002). Archaeological evidence likewise fails to support the Toba bottleneck hypothesis. In southern Africa, a region nearly 9,000 km from the Toba caldera but affected by distal ash fall, archaeological sites document continuous human occupation before and after the YTT eruption (Smith et al., 2018). While human fossil remains are scarce in India, stone tool assemblages likewise imply continuous human occupation both before and after the eruption with no change in lithic technology (Clarkson et al., 2012, 2020). While the effect of the Toba eruption on local climate and ecosystems cannot be denied, most recent discussion is in agreement that it was not directly responsible for the near-extinction of human (and other animal) populations (Williams, 2012; Crick et al., 2021; Singh and Srivastava, 2022). The environmental proxies commonly used to tie the YTT to the subsequent glacial period and human population bottleneck lack the temporal resolution to establish a causal relationship. While the hypothesis has not been fully ruled out, current evidence suggests the Toba eruption’s effect on human demography was limited.reply
That was never more than an educated guess, and something came out a couple of years back that suggested Toba had nothing to do with it. I could have kept a sharper eye on this literature but I think that's where it stands.reply
How did they do it, your advisor and his? Some sort of lineage/least common ancestor analysis based on some kind of genetic marker?reply
This was early days so they were looking at pairwise differences in mtDNA. Your mtDNA compared to a !Kung guy, your mtDNA compared to a Swedish guy, and on and on. Simply, if human populations had been growing steadily, a graph of all the differences should look like radioactive decay, lots of folks with few differences (because they're closely related), fewer and fewer with large differences. Instead, the graph looked kinda like a bell curve, which made no fucking sense. Unless ... something terrible happened. Human population levels crashed and very few people were left, genetic diversity was greatly reduced, and the population recovered and has been expanding ever since. It was either a short, horrific bottleneck or a long one that was still pretty bad. Like as not there may have been more than one bottleneck, and different genes seem to date it differently. Haven't really kept up with this literature so I invite anyone who has to weigh in.reply
That. Is. The. Coolest.reply
Definitely peak experience for folks who like knowing things. Interesting that this is still trickling out after all this time.reply
You mean I came THIS CLOSE to not having to go through all this????reply
And yet… we invented Microsoft Teams.reply
Quick, hop in. We still have time to go back and fix that mistakereply
This also perplexis me but i believed the number to be 10 thousand.reply
I’ve also read that this dwindling really only applies to Northern Europe and that there were still a ton of humans living on the African continent.reply
There is tons of confusion about this that is largely a nit-pick about when humans of the Homo subgroup "count" as "us". There was the "Out of Africa" bottleneck in which only a few thousand of our ancestors survived. However there were a dozen or so incipient species that survived that weren't "us". Hiedelbergensis is my favorite one because those homies were *weird*. So even if they were wiped out there likely would have been a different decedent of erectus that would have taken our niche in the world. Carrying our tools day to day, vocal communication for teamwork, and complex social structures like grandparents caring for everyone's grandkids, likely would have showed up anyway.reply
That's not entirely true. The entirety of the current human population shares genes at rates that imply a human genetic bottleneck of between a few thousand to tens is thousands of individuals. However, this can be studied via mitochondrial dna which is only passed down by the mother, and thus reduced gene mixing that can ambiguate results, or thru the y chromosome which is similarly only passed down through the farther. These two methods reveal a different time in history at which the bottle neck occurred, which imply a that the genetic bottleneck was not likely a strictly population based bottleneck. Were the bottleneck to be population based, you'd expect both the mDNA and y chromosome bottlenecks to correspond. How does this work? Assume that each gene has an random chance of getting into the gamete. And once in an individual, has further random chances to get passed on again. If you were to take an individual gene and look at it's "lifespan", chances are at some distant point in the future that gene doesn't get passed down, and goes "extinct". Due to the randomness in this system, you can assume that each and every set of genes has some sort of gaussian distribution of lifespan. (Some genes will emerge from single de novo mutation, and last for one generation before no longer being passed down. Most will exist for an average number of generations then by random chance not be passed down. A few will last for much longer). (Side note, bc the longer a gene survived the more likely it is to continue to survive because of the greater likelihood of being in a greater number of individuals means that the distribution is not really gaussian and has a fat tail) What does this mean? Imagine a population of 1 million individuals, that exists for thousands upon thousands of years, and it always has 1 million individuals. By random chance certain genes within this population will go "extinct" as they happen to just not get passed down. This narrowing of the gene pool will, given enough time, result in the far future the appearance of a genetic bottleneck. The population of 1 million might only share genes from 1 thousand ancestors despite always having a population of 1 million.reply
This happened to me but I never knew it was a thing beforehand. I woke up one day and couldn't hear anymore in one ear. It's called sudden deafness and it's permanent. Doctors don't really know why it happens.top-level
Holy shit. That must have been a hell of a transition.reply
Humans are the best developed species for distance running. We out perform any other species in the long runtop-level
Also we're the only species that can throw things with any degree of accuracy. Other animals might fling things, but humans are the only ones that can aim for a spot and hit it reliably. Edit - For all the people here going "um actually this animal drops things or spits" the key word here is THROW.reply
In the end the skill that makes us VERY dangerous apex predators. Yeah, Bow+Arrow or Gunpowder weapons push our ranged capabilities to the max, but we've been running around with atatls for tens of thousands of years, and those things are pretty much all that we need (and a bit of training ofcourse) to outmatch pretty much any other animal.reply
Give a human a spear and they'll teach a rock to thinkreply
Just need to outlast the short run winners that might kill you before you get to the long runreply
Quantum Entanglement, I guess quantum physics in general. There are very fundamental things we just don’t understandtop-level
I had a professor who started the semester with a quote. I think it was Feynman? (Heavily paraphrased, as this was many many years ago) "Okay, I've got good news and bad news. The bad news is that I don't understand quantum physics. No one does. Anyone who claims they do is lying or deranged. But the good news is that over the next 15 weeks, you won't understand quantum physics either."reply
About half the population is infected with a brain worm that stems from cats. T gondii causes massive changes in the behavior of mice and will cause them to run straight towards cats to be eaten. It’s not clear whether this changes behavior in humans. There’s some correlation that’s been found but nothing solid.top-level
I, too, run straight towards cats. Although I just wanna pet them :)reply
Sharks are older than treestop-level
And Saturn's rings. I believe it's Reddit law mention both facts togetherreply
Then I feel obliged to say, the rings may be self cleaning and as old as everything else. (Someone commented this earlier)reply
Until the WNT1 pathway is down-regulated during late childhood, in preparation for puberty, the human body is still capable of regrowing amputated fingertips. This pathway remains active in some species which are capable of regrowing entire appendages, or even their entire bodies.top-level
I guess this explains why I have no scar on my fingertip despite basically shaving off all of the skin on one of them in an accident when I was around 6.reply
A good portion of us have no inner monologue Edit: I think some folks are confusing aphantasia with inner monologue - which is also interesting but not quite as “wtf”top-level
This one is just unfathomable to me. What do they think about? Is it all reactionary?reply
Yeah, all the great tips of „repeat to yourself” and „picture this” as a child made me confused but I didn’t understood why, I thought it’s some sort of figurative expression as we pretend to be able to do this and it supposed to help, but it didn’t.reply
Hu, that's interesting! How do you plan? For example, if you are just sitting on a chair and want to plan all the necessaries steps necessary to fix your broken car or how you want to prepare the meal for your evening? What's happening in your brain when you can't talk to yourself and don't see the images of what you want to do in your brain?reply
I can’t speak for everyone but in my experience I just tend to do it. I don’t need an active internal monologue or images guiding me, I kinda just know what I want to do in the rough order I’m going to do it in and do it. This does mean that I’m ‘forgetful’ in a sense. When it comes to cooking I tend to accidentally leave some ingredients in the fridge or outside and end up opening/closing it a few more times than I should’ve needed. My friends have told me that they feel like it contributes to the fact that I am really bad at spotting people in a crowd/finding what they’re talking about when they point out something from our surroundings. I can also project a voice speaking inside my head if I make the active effort, but there’s not one naturally.reply
we know almost nothing about an entire group of whales called the beaked whales. [link removed] There are 24 known species, only three of them have been studied, mostly from dead individuals. [link removed]top-level
You can be so sick that the only cure is having another person’s poo medically inserted into you.top-level
IIRC this is actually a purified culture of your intestinal flora and THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT.reply
Other people’s intestinal flora, purified from their poop ::ahem::reply
Are you talking about…. The Spice Melange?reply
Fecal transplant. Not as gross in its application as people make it out to be.reply
And it saves lives!! c diffreply
How's it being done medically different than the way I do it myself?reply
The more we dig into the nature of reality, the more unfathomable it becomes. It's almost as if the universe has left us a hint.top-level
There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers what the universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened. Douglas Adamsreply
This reminds me of a dream I had when I was in intense REM-Rebound from THC withdrawal: We were in a central room with several doors that split off into a Mandelbrot type fractal superstructure. It was exactly like the backrooms, but more fractal-like and trippy. We all had one objective: to split up and find “IT”. I’m not so sure what “IT” was, but by god I was gonna look for it. I picked a door and began to excitedly explore. Each door led to another room/hallway with more doors and so on ad-infinitum. Some rooms led to spiraling, self similar recursions, and some rooms led to something new and unique. Someone would find “IT”, and then all the sudden we would be teleported back into a new “level”. We would be in a new central room to explore a new fractal. We kept doing this, and each fractal level had a different architectural style; like art deco, then prehistoric, then frutiger aero, then brutalist, then eclectic, etc etc. Eventually in one of these levels I discovered a room that looked like an empty baptist church. It had wooden pews, a pulpit, and a stained glass window where golden light streamed in. I entered into it and saw another door that led to the same room again, but rotated 90 degrees. It was one of those self recursive, spiraling patterns that I described earlier. I knew intuitively that I should turn around because it’s just an infinite loop to go that way. But something else in me said “no, maybe if I go that way I can find The Throne Room”. I started going through this room over and over again. Each time I passed through the door, I noticed a growing magnetic resistance to going further. This resistance grew stronger and stronger till it woke me up. This dream felt like it lasted a long time, but it had only been a few minutes.reply
Top tier fucky dream, thanks for sharing.reply
If you take all the atoms in every person and shrink them down to just the nucleus. The worlds population would fit in something the size of a sugar cube.top-level
Almost, it would fit every except your mom.reply
But wouldn't that harm the people?reply
The smell of grass being cut is it’s distress signal.top-level
Who/what is it signaling to? The other grass?reply
Plants do signal to other plants, but in this case they're signaling to predators that a plant-eating animal, which is probably their prey, is in the area. They didn't count on lawnmowers...reply
That actually makes sense and is really cool.reply
TIL grass is the most vengeful and petty plant. "Eat my blades will you? Sure would suck if someone just doxed your location making YOU someone's dinner. Who's a bitch now, bitch?"reply
In 40k years foxes will have evolved to hunt lawnmowers.reply
So, the grass is snitching to avoid being eaten? Like "yo, lions! There's a gazelle eating me up in here! Come get your dinner!".reply
*RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!* Oh, wait…reply
If i recall correctly, it's telling the nearby grass to hide away their nutrients. Ie push all the good life juices into your roots. That way when a goat or lawnmower clips them, they can grow back with all the stored sugars that would have been lost.reply
Plants will signal for different reason. Some are calling insects to eat other insects. Some will signal other plants of the same species that they need to increase their defenses.reply
People that are allergic to grass.reply
3 trillion fish are killed yearly, and the vast majority are killed by letting them suffocate, which is extremely painful and takes tens of minutes. Just to compare, 100 billion humans have ever lived.top-level
Mushrooms are not plants or animals. What am I even eating?top-level
It's easy to think of life as these simple domains. The reality is so different. As a kid I was taught that protists were a whole kingdom of life. Turns out they're actually like 1500 different divisions of life all wearing a trenchcoat. Fungi is what happened when the cells that would later evolve into animal life became sessile (non moving) and evolved similar to how plants work. I guess you could say it's what happened when animals tried to be plants. Tho I guess sponges are a better example of that.reply
And that's why mushrooms push up like dongers. They still remember.reply
Ever heard of Prototaxites? They're an old fossil, very old, from around 400 million years ago. They were the tallest organisms of their era, meters tall when plants were still hugging the ground. They were originally thought to be giant fungus, even though they don't really resemble any living or extinct fungus, but a recent study of the chemical signatures left in the fossils could not place them with fungus at all. They couldn't be placed with animals or plants either. If that's true, than they're not animals, or plants, or fungus, but a fourth and now completely extinct kingdom of multicellular organisms. That's pretty neat.reply
it's crazy to think that the earth is really just different organisms somehow figuring things out, coming and going as time marches on... who knows what happened in the fastreply
Or what will happen in the furiousreply
Even crazier: genetically, they are closer to animals than to plantsreply
Apparently there’s a cloud somewhere in space scientists believe is made out of the same chemicals as alcohol There’s a booze cloud in spacetop-level
Discovered in 1995 near the constellation Aquila, the cloud is 1000 times larger than the diameter of our solar system. It contains enough ethyl alcohol to fill 400 trillion trillion pints of beer. To down that much alcohol, every person on earth would have to drink 300,000 pints each day—for one billion years. Sadly, for those of you planning an interstellar pub crawl, the cloud is 58 quadrillion miles away. It’s also a cocktail of 32 compounds, some of them as nasty as carbon monoxide, hydrogen cyanide, and ammonia. this isn't the only one they've found.. there's several. Alcohol is an organic compoundreply
Pete hegseth is reading this as he hops into a rocket.reply
We are closer to the size of the universe than we are to the smallest thing we can detect.top-level
There was a study with bees and how they track time, and I think at one point they had the hive in a dark room with no windows and the bees were still able to track time and emerged when it was day.top-level
The speed of light is constant regardless of reference frame.top-level
No ody has ever effectively explained what happens if I'm going the speed of light and shine a light in front of me. Does the light just look up in the flashlight? If it projects in front of me do people standing still watching me pass seen my flashlight beam going twice the speed of light? What does this do to Bluetooth reception?reply
the faster you go, the stronger time dilatation becomes, so even if you go at 99.99999% of the speed of light, light woud STILL look lightspeed to you, and the guy standing would see both of you at almost the same speedreply
Somehow your explanation finally made it understandable to me while making me even more amazed.reply
Someone please correct me if any if this is wrong, im going off the top of my head for most of this. As something with mass, you cannot hit 100% the speed of light or c. In theory you could get very close, but never to c itself. A person you went past would see your light going at c and you going whatever percent of c you are going relative to them. Due to time dilation making you experience less time go by, and there is even length contraction that would make the distances involved appear less to you than to an outside observer. Time and distance shrinks at the same rate as you approach c. At 99% the speed of light the dilation is about 7 from what i googled, so ill use multiples of 7 for my example here to use whole numbers. If you went at 99% of c toward something 343 light days away, pointed a flashlight in front of you and turned it on. An outside observer would detect that the light took 343 days for it to get there, with you arriving shortly behind it at 99% the speed. However due to time dilation, you will experience 7 days of travel time to arrive, and from your point of view, light will be going the same speed, just the distance itself will appear shorter. So light would appear to arrive at the destination in 1 day. The light didnt change speed, the distance it traveled literally got smaller. AS FAR AS BLUETOOTH GOES: if you brought the Bluetooth device with you, it would be going the same speed relative to you and should work fine to my knowledge. But if you left it behind and assuming distance wouldn't matter to it. The wavelength of the light would stretch out from your point of view to reach you. Going from the microwave spectrum of light, toward the wavelength of infrared light (or redshift as it is known). So the Bluetooth wouldn't work anymore for you. I dont know what wavelength the light would end up at as I dont understand how to do that math. I dont know if that answered anything in a meaningful way, and it probably is pretty much me rambling, but I did my best off the top of my head with how much I understand of it.reply
Siphonophores. Most deep sea creatures sound fake and freak me out tbh.top-level
The Octonauts taught me about siphonophores! Creature report!reply
Volcanic snails with metal shellstop-level
Pretty sure that's a pokemonreply
Opossums have two penises and two vaginastop-level
Come again?reply
Sorry, I'm not an opossumreply
In this economy?reply
A Cambridge team studying the atmosphere of a planet called K2-18b has detected signs of molecules which on Earth are only produced by simple organisms.top-level
I actually study exoplanets and I read the original paper. The detection is almost certainly a false positive; the model is far too flexible for the number of data points they had.reply
This freaks my sister out no end. We have a dying tree in our yard we had half chopped down (couldn’t afford to get it stump ground) and it started sprouting new growth even thought it’s definitely on its very last legs and she is worried it’s in agony and going to get the other trees to get revenge. I think she’s joking…I think.reply
The previous owners of our house chopped down their elm tree. The tree began to grow back. The owner felt bad and let it live. It’s about 4 stories high now and it’s beautiful. We bought the house a couple of years ago and love it. So maybe the tree isn’t in agony. Tell your sister that maybe it’s happy growing tall again.reply
There's an extreme case of convergent evolution where a bird species independently evolved...twice...at separate times.top-level
Crabs have evolved like five times.reply
Carcinization is so cool. Crabs are anatomically OP it seems.reply
Turns out snakes are the same. So either 8 legs or none!reply
Crabs only ever evolved out of things that were already much like, and closely related to, other crablike things. The tendency of evolution to produce crabs is greatly exaggerated. Worms, on the other hand? There are like a dozen completely different animal phyla that evolved into worms. And most other animals are just worms that evolved appendages and stopped being wormy. Evolution *really* likes worms.reply
It’s actually iterative evolution. The white-throated rail evolved to be flightless on an atoll in the Seychelles. Then life was wiped out by a sea level rise. It was colonized again by the white-throated rails and they again evolved to be flightless. They aren’t literally the same species but have a very similar form.reply
It's backing up data to the cloudreply
They're about to respawn in the lobby. Watch out for campers!reply
I wonder if it feels like a meditative state due to the rush of endorphins, neurotransmitters, and serotonin. I’ve watched several relatives die in hospice and they all seemed very peaceful.reply
I'd imagine it has something to do with the DMT dump.reply
I don’t like this.reply
I think it's more "there's measurable brain activity, but it's actively getting weaker until 15 minutes when there's no activity." You're likely not actually conscious when this happens.reply
To me that seems peaceful. No pain, no sensation. Just time to remember faces, laughs, tears, hugs, and kindness. A few more moments to be grateful.reply
I'll list two that routinely break my brain. 1. The Appalachian mountains are so old that they have no fossils. They predate surface life on this planet. 2. Ton 618. Describing it is......difficult. It's a very distant (18 billion ly) very old black hole. It's measurable diameter is 30 times the width of our solar system; not the sun...the solar system. It's fucking lovecraftian. What still blows my mind is, it's not the largest one we've found. It's not even the second largest one anymore.top-level
Not only that, but mountain ranges in greeland, Norway, Africa and england (including the scottish highlands) are all part of the same ancient mountain range that the Appalachians belong toreply
There is an entire ecosystem living on your face editing this to answer someone below Hate the message, not the messenger. You have 1 million bacteria per square centimetre you have 600-1000 square centimetre of skin that's hundreds of millions of bacteria on your face and you can have thousands of dedox mites, 1-2 on each poretop-level
I hate this answer. Well done jerk.reply
People with multiple personalities can have blind and sighted personalities. And researchers have conducted tests - the blindness and sightedness when they occur are biologically real. Link - [link removed]top-level
Quantum tunneling and superpositiontop-level
Planet 9. A theorized planet that could be 10x bigger than Earth out beyond the current outer planets. We have not found it but we can see evidence of its impact on the Kuyper belt.top-level
Yeah and they called this "Planet 9" Planet X.reply
A newly opened and massive telescope in South America is doing a scan of the entire sky, so we likely will know if it exists within the next two years.reply
Planet 9 From Outer Space?reply
Doctors were able to restore a blind man’s sight by implanting one of his teeth into his eyeball.top-level
Quantum Entanglement. The universe is very likely not locally real.top-level
Can you explain what you mean by not locally real?reply
Particles don't actually have a definite property until you look at them. That means particles can exist in more than one place at the same time and influence each other faster than light. If you look at the spin of a particle, you define its opposite instantly across space-time. Simply because you observed it. It didn't exist before that moment. If that moment even existed. This is an article about it: [link removed]reply
The speed of light and the speed of gravity are about the same. If the sun were to disappear, we would maintain current orbit for about 8 minutes, and then drift off into space when we see the sun blink out as we all start to die.top-level
This makes much more sense when you stop thinking about it as "the speed of light" and start thinking about it as "the speed of causality".reply
They are not about the same, they are exactly the same.reply
In the Sagittarius B2 cloud, there's a nebula that has the equivalent of 400 trillion pints of beer's worth of alcohol in it.top-level
Whales came from a land dwelling mammal the size of a raccoon.top-level
It sounds totally fake, but biological puppetry is 100% real. Certain parasites can actually hijack a host's brain and turn them into a literal zombie. They use neurotoxins to override the host's survival instincts, forcing the animal to commit "biological suicide" just to help the parasite reproduce.top-level
- The idea of “touching” is a human interpretation of physical interactions. At the atomic level, objects do not make contact the way solid objects appear to in everyday life. What we experience as touch is the electromagnetic repulsion between atoms and molecules. - We get old and die because our genetic code tells us to. Cell reproduction slowly loses integrity because the checks and balances that are built into the system slowly stop enforcing proper reproduction. If and when we correct this in our genetic makeup we would essentially live forever. The ability to do that is not as far-fetched as the implications of this breakthrough may sound. - There are more possible chess games than atoms estimated in the observable universe. - Sharks existed before trees - Octopuses edit their own RNA in real time to adapt to temperature changes, effectively “rewriting” parts of their biology without changing DNA.top-level
Covid-19 damages your heart tissue and brain. It's why so many Covid patients experience brain fog and also why heart problems have been increasing among young, otherwise heathy people in recent years.top-level
This has been one of my favourite Reddit threads evertop-level
Carcinization. Everything eventually evolves into crabs. It’s the optimal form.top-level
I was curious about why the crawling form is so popular in nature, e.g. beetles and crabs resemble one another, and learned that this is the best form possible. You have spare legs, your brain doesn't require much energy, and being low is a kind of armor. Humans are the very great exceptionreply
“Best form possible” is very dependent on environment. Is why even within mammals you have a lot of different ways of locomotion in spite of all of us having essentially the same basic bones. Like how cats are permanently crouched to be lower and always ready to jump, because they’re ambush predators. While dogs/wolves are built much more for endurance. Human bipedal locomotion is particularly energy efficient, one of the most efficient ones actually. Because we’re optimized for long distance walking or running in tropical climates (hence why we’re furless and sweaty)reply
Crab People, Crab People. Taste like Crab, look like People....reply
Ginko Biloba (trees) are wind pollinated because they are older than bees. (Ginko developed 290 Mya; bees 120 Mya)top-level
This is inaccurate. Wind pollination is a reproduction strategy regardless of whether bees were around when the taxon came to be or not. Grasses and oaks are younger than insect pollination, and they are mostly wind pollinated.reply
Which means dino nuggets are made of real dinosaursreply
You ever seen a featherless chicken walking around? Absolutely a dinosaur.....tasty velociroosters.reply
False Vacuum Theory - "False vacuum theory suggests our universe exists in a metastable, high-energy state rather than the lowest possible energy state. If the false vacuum decays into a true vacuum via quantum tunneling, a bubble of new physics could expand at the speed of light, instantly altering physical laws and destroying the current universe." You wouldn't even know it happened when it did.top-level
Our eyes have their own immune system and our body could theoretically reject themtop-level
This is explained wrong.. Our eyes have their own immune system, yes. But not a seperate system. There is a barrier that prevents most regular immune cells from entering and it doesn't have any regular immune receptors. This is because if your eyes were to ever become inflamed, they would swell, getting easily damaged, leaving you blind with your eyes dying off and exposing your brain through the optical nerve. The immune system your eyes have is the same as everywhere else, it just only sends, it doesn't receive. Your eyes do react to an intruder the same as everything else in your body does and sends a signal. Your body then sends the immune response to the areas around the eyes Several areas of the body have this property. The balls, central nervous system and both the fetus and placenta also have an immune barrier like this. However, if your eyes are every physically damaged, you run the risk of sympathetic ophthalmia, which is what happens when eye proteins from the retina which usually never leave your eyes can slip through the immune barrier into your regular immune system. Your immune systems learns what is a threat and what is not in your early life as you grow up, which is how a lot of allergies form. It has never encountered your eye proteins and immediately finds them hostile and attacks them, leaving you fully blind as your body damages your optical nerves further and further.reply
All this big solid stuff is made of small quantum stuff which is mostly probabilities.top-level
My brain still smokes when I think about "Why Is?" Not in a religious way but "why not nothing" what does it mean that there "Is something"top-level
“Nothing” may not even be a possible “state.” Everywhere we look there’s something. There’s nowhere we can point to and say “look, there’s all the nothing!” Instead, all we have, and have seemingly ever had, is a whole bunch of *something* and that may just be the only way it can be. As far as I can tell, “nothing” is simply an imaginary concept.reply
The vastness of spacetop-level
That some “stars” recognized in constellations are actually galaxies…top-level
If the satellites that control GPS weren't constantly correcting their time for the time dilation that comes from being in orbit, it would only take 1-2 minutes for the whole system to be unusable.top-level
The Tyrannosaurus Rex lived closer in time to putting Man on the Moon than they did to living with the Stegosaurus. By about 65 million or so years.top-level
Reading the comments was scarier than the question itselftop-level
Someone injected goats with spider Genes to create spider silk proteins in their milk that makes super strong fibres. [link removed]top-level
Octopuses having three hearts and blue blood still sounds made up to me. Two hearts pump blood to the gills, and one pumps it to the rest of the body. Even stranger: the main heart actually stops beating when they swim, which is why octopuses prefer crawling over swimming because it exhausts them so quickly. And their blood is blue because it uses copper-based hemocyanin instead of iron-based hemoglobin to carry oxygen. It works better in cold, low-oxygen ocean environments. Basically, evolution looked at octopuses and decided to go full sci-fi.top-level
When I was in middle school (in the late 1980's, so not very long ago), we were taught that there are four states of matter: Solid, Liquid, Gas, and Plasma. We have discovered at least four more since then: Bose-Einstein condensate, Fermionic condensate, quark-gluon plasma, and time crystals. Time crystals are, well, spooky. A crystal is any solid material whose atoms,are arranged in a highly ordered, repeating pattern extending in all three-dimensional spaces (salt, sugar, snowflakes, etc.) The concept of time crystals takes this idea a step further by applying it not just across space, but time as well – making them the first known examples of a 'non-equilibrium matter', matter that is in a state that doesn’t settle down into a thermal equilibrium. Usually, if you left something alone, it would eventually cool down or heat up to match its surroundings. But time crystals don’t. They oscillate in time indefinitely without ever reaching such a state, using energy in a way that’s fundamentally different from how we’ve understood physical systems to behave up until now. Time crystals move in their lowest energy state, known as the ground state, in a periodic manner – a movement that is referred to as breaking time-translational symmetry. Breaking time-translational symmetry means that while most things change as time goes on, a time crystal somehow repeats itself at regular intervals, like a clock that ticks forever without ever needing to be wound up. This perpetual motion defies the traditional laws of physics. How do we know all this? We built one. Actually, we have built several. Google's quantum AI lab, Stanford, and Princeton scientists built them.top-level
Virusestop-level
Did you know that viruses are an essential driver of evolution? And that the human genome carries ~8% virus genome?reply
There's a serious scientific theory that sex first evolved as a way of cleaning viruses out of genomes. Sex is like a malware scanner that just deletes half your hard drive, copies half of someone else's hard drive, and hopes their half doesn't have the malware on it.reply
Sharks have been around longer than trees and Saturn's rings.top-level
When trees first evolved (100s of millions of year ago), they didn't rot or decompose because there were no organisms to do the job. So they just piled up.top-level
The pluvial episode. It rained for 1-2 million years straight. Imagine going outside and it started raining...it happens...and then it never ended...top-level
so, portland oregon ?reply
People prefer AI that doesn't admit not knowing a thingreply
Yeah this stuff with real human brains has nothing to do with LLMs. People are really out here thinking AI is alive.reply
26 years, according to the video i just looked up...i feel like its older...and also real stupid. [[link removed]reply
Have never seen this but my life is now better having seen it. Not what I had imagined.reply
in 2000-ish, my high school group of friends freakin LOVED this song.reply
Kids these days have no idea how much effort it took in Flash to make something of that caliber, it was essentially like painting the Mona Lisa.reply
Finally, someone with some class who understands the strugglereply
I was dreaming that I had a dinosaur in my chest. I woke up to a big cat that I was pet sitting laying on my chestreply
Okay so like. I’ve always found this to be a completely tautological “fun fact”. “Lobsters only die if continuing their base biological functions becomes too difficult because their body can’t handle it”. Bitch me too you ain’t special”. Like i feel like we can talk about their telomerase processing differences as its own cool fact without calling it “biological immortality”. They aren’t immortal, they just have a different way that their body ages to the point of incapacity than other animals.reply
I love how you quoted something no one said lmao. You will eventually turn frail and weak from aging, the important distinction here is "biological" immortality. Age doesn't make lobsters frail or degrade them, actually the opposite. They die from getting too large and overexerting themselves when molting or not being able to get enough nutrients because of how large they are. Old age kills humans because we break a bone and can't heal it or we get some sort of illness that our immune systems are too weak to fight off, not the same thing. They are *biologically* immortal, not invulnerable or immune to dying.reply
Right. Lobster don't senesce. "Lobster are biologically immortal", while an exaggeration, is a shorthand explanation of "lobster can live incredibly long lives, theoretically eternally, because they produce a lot of telomerase, which repairs and extends the telomeres in their chromosomes, which allows for endless cellular division" that can be used as a launchpad to then read more on the subject if you're actually interested.reply
You mind sending a few articles my way? I do enjoy a good biology readreply
This one's a bit of an entry-level one: [link removed] I like this one a bit better cuz it has graphics: [link removed] Interestingly, it seems that in non-lobster creatures, high telomerase is liked with cancers (it's found in cancerous tumors, for example), so there's definitely another hurdle to this whole aging thing than just "oh, slap some telomerase on your telomeres and you'll be good until next century!" This is a student article, but it goes pretty in-depth on telomerase and all that stuff (honestly finding accessible academic sources is hard cuz everything's paywalled, so your mileage may vary on that front): [link removed]reply
Thanks for this lil' dive, that was awesome. Glad I understand telomeres better now 🧬reply
Much appreciated!reply
That still doesn’t explain those dreams where someone turns around and says “you know the alarm is going to go off now, right?” BEEEP BEEEEP BEEEEEPreply
It does, though. Subjective experience is a reconstructed model, and unconsciousness allows temporal order to become confused. Psychedelics like psilocybin also mess with this effect, causing feelings of 'knowing what is about to happen' while being completely unable to demonstrate this. The brain is great at confabulating something that 'makes sense'reply
Some folks were born, silver spoon in handreply
Or because I eat themreply
Yes and it's a religionreply
Always makes me think there's a murderer about because 35 years ago I was woken by a helicoptor overhead and a copper shone a light through my open window (it was a hot summer) and told me to shut the window because they looking for a man who had just killed his wife with an axe. I went and slept in the hallway.reply
I have to know what your thought process was that made you think the hallway was safest?reply
No windows.reply
I once had a small brid like a black bird fly in my window and dig its claws in to my head / stand on my head while I was asleep but I could feel it and woke up to it flapping around the room. Even now I can still distinctly feel how it felt. Sharp and pointy and coldreply
Brother was playing something on his computer, I could hear him using his mouse, I saw a spider before I went to sleep so naturally I dreamt of a giant spider hovering over me, making clicking sounds with its mandiblesreply
Sounds like when I sleep with my headphones on and I start dreaming with the music playingreply
I wonder how much of that is medically realistic or exaggerated? Gonna find the episode lolreply
Did you find the episode? Which one is it?reply
My left retina detached and was re-attached, but it left me with a blurry area in the center of my visual field. My peripheral vision is still OK. When I see writing with that eye, I can recognize that there are letters, but I don't know what they are.reply
So maybe AI's hallucination are more like natural intelligence than we give credit for.reply
Simulation theory gets more convincing each day lolreply
I wish I could get my theories ~~gently~~ simulated by snu snureply
Lowkey most text in my dream looks a lot like ai hallucination text where the letters kind of overlap or dont make much sense at all. If im reading a book ive read before, i can read just fine, but even in dreamland it feels like im doing it from memory, not actually reading it. But if it's new its a mess as soon as i feel myself trying to make sense of it, then i wake up... ...am i an ai? 😞reply
Fun fact: people who are into ludic (edit: I meant lucid dreaming, but ludic dreaming sounds fun too.) dreaming use things like this as reality tests. Go about your day and whenever you read something, double check to see if it says the same thing the second time around. Same with clocks, light switches, etc. Certain things just don't work logically in dreams, so if you actively incorporate these "reality tests" into your waking life, you will eventually start incorporating them into your dreams. As soon as you realize that your reality tests are consistently failing, you'll gain enough awareness to be able to start influencing the dream.reply
Ugh, yeah. I'm accidentally a lucid dreamer sometimes - I am not a fan of it - but light switches are my tell. I have sleep paralysis pretty often and experience false awakenings sometimes with it. I'll get out of bed, everything seen normal, then I turn on my light switch and... nothing happens. That's when I realize I'm still dreaming dreaming and get either snapped back into my body where I'm still stuck in sleep paralysis, or the walls start melting and the room starts to distort and it's not a good time. Sometimes it loops over and over and over so it feels like nonstop false awakenings and it's really freaky. ETA: one time I finally actually woke up after a particularly scary loop of nonstop false awakenings, and flipped on the bedroom light switch but the bulb was burnt out so it didn't turn on and I was standing there questioning reality for a while... so anyway, if there's anyone looking into lucid dreaming, make sure whatever tell you choose isn't something that can actually happen in real life because it will mess with your head!!reply
Sleep paralysis is so scary. I feel that. False awakenings are not fun.reply
The light switch is my tell too. Whenever it happens I think "ok don't think about anything scary like zombies". And you can guess what happens.reply
Im not sure if you can call me a lucid dreamer exactly -- i can sort of order up a dream with my imagination as i fall asleep but as soon as i become aware that i'm dreaming most the dream "plot" revolves around losing my powers or discovering im in a dreamworld and need to find a way out -- then i wake up.reply
That... kind of sounds amazing? Who needs Netflix when you can direct your own dreams? Where can I buy this upgrade?reply
The part of your brain that can do math and isn't active during dreaming, I often have dreams where I keep getting frustrated I can't do math.reply
There's probably a similarity (loosely ?) with figuring out math and figuring out writing when you can't really read it. I appriciate that my logical brain stays asleep for dreaming so I can fly or time travel on occasion, even if I can't read or do math...reply
Those shitty free-tier AI videos look exactly like my dreams. Weird objects that I know what they're *supposed* to be, but only if I don't look too close at them; people moving correctly before the logic breaks down and they start moving in strange, impossible ways; facial expressions not matching the tone of voice; and implausible locations or backgrounds that don't *quite* look like the real thing. But in the dream, I don't notice it's weird. I only notice afterwards.reply
this is not completely true anymore [link removed]reply
(edited and reposted) it disturbs me that the guy you are responding too is getting over 1.1 k upvotes. While this comment which shows that there is still unified counciousness and that those seperated brains are still pretty connected, will get way way less than 1.1 k upvotes Pinto and other peoples research show that there is one unified counciousness but divided perception. That the seperated brains are more connected than we think, yet most people wont see it.reply
Most people won’t see it, including the individuals with split brains. It’s kind of just semantics at that point. Consciousness can refer to the brain’s overall understanding, or it can refer to the individual’s perception of the experience. If you have no ability to realize something, even if your brain knows it anyway, that could be labeled as outside of your conscious experience. Subconscious perhaps.reply
(reposting my comment) **(edited this comment. THe other guy was replying to the original unedited comment which didnt explain things well)** the individuals reported high confidence that they were correct about their identifications. Which a lot of time they were. For unlike the previous study, pinotos study allowed the subjects to identify stuff on their own pace with less stringent rules. Turns out letting the subjects naturally identify stuff allowed them to identify and be aware of stuff better. Suggesting the old studies methodology screwed up the subjects ability to identify and be aware of stuff Now regarding the study: Pinotos recent research showed that the left brain was still able to access info of the right brain and vice versa. For example, split brain patients could still verbally identify objects shown to the right part of the brain (right part isnt connected to left part verbal center). They could pick up objects they saw with their right hand even though the object was only seen by the right part of the brain (right part of the brain isnt connected to right hand. right hand is connected to the left brain). They could point to a stimuli shown to their left eye with their right hand. (left part of the eye and right hand are connected to different parts of the brain). And as stated earlier they reported high confidence that they were correct about their identificaitons This shows that the brains had to be still connected and giving info to each other. And that the subjects were aware of both brains info. one of the theories that explain why this is the case is the brains were still connected by a brain stem. Which some neuroscientists speculate is the true origin of counciousness.reply
Alex O'Connor (does philosophy and theology videos on youtube) has spoken about this phenomenon a few times in his podcast appearances. Super fascinating.reply
That's kind of the point though, isn't it? A computer is a unitary system. It receives inputs, it calculates things, it gives back outputs. But the brain is different: it's like two computers with significant, but not total, overlap. Two complementary systems connected in ways we don't yet fully understand. Imo the computer-brain comparison only makes sense from a theoretical framework perspective, but when you dig deeper you realize that they're similar in functions but very different in how they actually work and, thus, in what comes out of them.reply
Do their telomeres just not degrade somehow?reply
They produce a lot of telomerase, which is highly beneficial to their telomeres and even repairs them, which causes them to not really age like most animals do (gradually degrading until death). Immortality is a bit of a stretch I'll admit, but it does allow them to live stupidly long lives for being arthropods.reply
So we just need to inject lobster blood and we'll live forever!?reply
Unfortunately, no probably not. You'd get some sort of generalized cancer that way, cuz in adult non-lobster animals, [telomerase is why cancerous tumors occur.]([link removed] There's probably something in conjunction with telomerase that prevents a lobster from becoming a living tumor organism that we just haven't found yet.reply
I can't remember where I read it, but there is a tradeoff with that. Either you can self repair and live forever but end up much more likely to get super cancer, or you age and die off at a preset time, but the odds of getting a bunch of cancers at a young age are much lower. (Its much more complicated than just that, but the general idea is solid) edit: as you linked in another comment, telemers are basically an emergency backup, to where if the normal processes break down and a cell goes cancerous and starts reproducing out of control the telemers put a hard stop, as the ultimate emergency break to stop that.reply
Interesting read, thank youreply
> But instead of saying “I don’t know,” the patient confidently answered something like: > “I’m going to get a Coke.” >The significant part is that the patient was not lying or joking. They genuinely believed the explanation they gave. Their brain automatically generated a reason that felt real and coherent to them, even though the true cause of the action was hidden from the part of the brain responsible for speech. The crazier thing is, we do that all the time anyway. Arguably, that's what we're always doing: Making decisions and doing things based on unconscious influences, and then making up a story after the fact to make sense of what we've done.reply
That is the killer. It’s difficult to know how much of the outcome can be contributed to the trauma of a split brain, and how much is just revealing natural brain functioning in a healthy person. Spooky.reply
Well I think we know that that it's stuff the brain does normally all the time. There have been various studies that amount to, "We used some method/trick to unconsciously influence someone into doing something, and then asked them why they did it, and found that they pretty much always make up a story that isn't what happened." And it makes sense, when you think about what's happening. The part of your brain that builds a conscious verbal narrative is separated from a part that's still capable of making decisions. You get the disconnected part to make a decision, and then ask why that decision was made. The part that builds the narrative doesn't have access to the actual reason, but it won't admit it doesn't know, so instead it makes up a plausible story. That at least suggests that any time we don't have a conscious accounting of why we did something, the part of the brain that accounts for things will make something up.reply
>confabulation Thank you for this new word! Word of the day right here!reply
This sounds a lot like tinnitus explanation. That the sound is produced in the brain as a defense mechanism to the lack of sound.reply
What do you mean? It's obviously goblins, right chatgpt?reply
This is also why the premise of the movie Inception is so goofy. Nothing easier than making a person think something was their own idea!reply
One time my mom's alarm was going off when we were on vacation and I dreamed a rabbit was screaming alarm sounds at mereply
Wouldn't it be left clawed?reply
Yeah, recent research by pinto and peopl;e like him show that the seperate brains are still very connected. That the seperate brain still has a unified counciousness. Its disturbing seeing over 1.1 k people accepting what the guy you are responding too is saying, when its just oversimplified. Meanwhile your comment will probably get way way less likes than 1.1kreply
Regardless of if it has a unified consciousness, the individuals with separate hemispheres did not have access to that consciousness. Their experience was altered.reply
Except thats exaggerated. Pinotos recent research showed that the left brain was still able to access info of the right brain and vice versa. For example, split brain patients could still verbally identify objects shown to the right part of the brain (right part isnt connected to left part verbal center). They could pick up objects they saw with their right hand even though the object was only seen by the right part of the brain (right part of the brain isnt connected to right hand. right hand is connected to the left brain). They could point to a stimuli shown to the left eye with their right hand. (left part of the eye and right hand are connected to different parts of the brain) This shows that the brains had to be still connected and giving info to each other. And one of the theories that explain why this is the case is the brains were still connected by a brain stem. Which some neuroscientists speculate is the true origin of counciousness.reply
I remember vividly as a child that I fell asleep on the couch at my grandparents' house and the first Harry Potter movie came on while I was sleeping. The movie got all the way to the point where Harry was confronting Professor Quirrell and within the confines of my dream it's like a projector screen opened up and I'm perfectly watching the movie in my dream while the rest of the dream went on around it. I then woke up and the movie was at the exact spot I left off in the dream. I've had outside auditory stimuli bleed into my dreams, but I've never had the dream itself basically build a cinema screen for outside visual stimuli too. That one was always wild to me.reply
Call me crazy, but I think there's a fairly obvious problem with committing a rather extreme trauma to the brain and using that to draw conclusions about how brains that have not experienced that trauma function.reply
I read a book about brain plasticity that talked about how the different hemispheres of the brain process trauma differently; they covered different eyes and whatnot and things went differently in therapy. It's been a minute since I read it, but I think it's called "The Brain That Changes Itself." The brain is *wild*.reply
...but I don't own a dog...reply
To be fair we might all be doing the same thing frequently. If you have working memory than a confabulation of why you did something would line up with reality and seem like a legitimate reason. When I wake up and think I had a dream about something preceding my alarm that explains the noise that's probably my brain making it up to explain the transition from a dream to waking but it feels the same as a memory. If your brain can add to or even make up an entire memory in the spot sometimes then how would we know it isn't doing it more often but just doing a better job at it most of the time.reply
This has given me food for thought. My father is showing the first signs of dementia and he'll fully invent details out of thin air rather than acknowledge a gap in his understanding of a situation. It's like his mind can no longer tolerate uncertainty.reply
That is scaryreply
> They genuinely believed the explanation they gave. Their brain automatically generated a reason that felt real and coherent to them, even though the true cause of the action was hidden from the part of the brain responsible for speech. The brain is designed to make sense of our experience. The ‘thinking’ part of the brain couldn’t access the reason the decision was made, so it invented one. Suddenly AI doesn't seem so stupid when it makes shit up.reply
Annaka Harris on Within Reason (Alex O’Conner’s pod)reply
I once was having a dream where a walrus was cuddling me and kissing my face and I was laughing because its whiskers were tickly. Woke up giggling to find one of my chinchillas had escaped her cage and was actually grooming my face while I slept. I'm not sure who got the bigger fright!reply
The way the brain handles the timing is what gets me. You hear a car alarm outside, and your brain somehow manages to write a whole 10-minute dream sequence that perfectly leads up to a fire alarm going off at the very end. It basically rewrites your "past" in a split second just so the present moment makes sense in the narrative. It really makes you wonder how much of your waking "logical" life is just your brain doing the same thing after the fact.reply
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>love listening to philosophers, scientists, neurologists, and ordinary people deconstruct this phenomenon I think about this study often because it helped me unpack my mom's strange and rare mental illness. My mom has DID. One thing that has been hard for me to understand is how all of the alters can be equally real when some have her real and accurate memories and others talk like they have an accent from some country she's never been to or a fantastical history (Like one who rarely presents sees herself as Mary Queen of Scots. we are not British.) This study really helped me understand that, because it's like she has traumatic persistent amnesia and these alters' histories are just her version of the same thing. Because her illness is all about looking away from and denying the illness itself if you ask her a question about where these people come from she is just going to make up the most likely or convenient concept and pass it off as true. Essentially she is filling in the gaps in her memory the same way we do with the blind spot in our eyes, just like the split brain people who believed their own reasoning. It's so easy for us to know our own past that it seems impossible and absurd to just make something up and believe that it's true. But just like a person with connected hemispheres can't fathom the life experience of someone with a split brain, I can't truly fathom what it's like to lose time on a regular basis and not have full access to my memories. It's one of those ways that people with disabilities show us who we are and what it is to be a human.reply
Well that sheds a little light on my horrors. On several occasions I have dreamt of something going on in my room, and open my eyes and see it. I have a window over my head when I sleep. One night I dreamt something crashed through it and I opened my eyes and saw a black shadow go down my bed onto the floor, to the door, and go down the hallway. It was about the size of a cat. I've had this happen before, and my brain registered there was no noise. So I knew it wasn't real and I rolled over and went back to sleep.reply
It begs the question how much of our experience is real? We don’t experience things for more than an instant. After that it’s just a memory we treat as a copy of the experience. But the memory is unreliable at best.reply
I've actually participated in both a corpus callosotomy and another procedure called the Wada test. The later is a much more wild procedure but you're just kinda like "well why the fuck not?" Let's do this and see what the experts findreply
Heather Berlin 2-part Nova on the brain is well worth watching if this interests you: [[link removed] Both parts are on youtube.reply
Wow that's interesting. I wonder if it has something to do with all memories are rewritten as we remember them. However vivid or memorable a memory is, isn't a determiner for accuracy. So maybe a totally invented memory, or rational is nearly indistinguishable from a real one. I question why we don't experience it more often? Or maybe it does, but we need an outside verificationreply
That’s insane lolreply
Yeah that’s a pretty accurate comparison honestly.reply
Yeah that does sound very similar actuallyreply
internal too. i’ve needed to pee irl and felt that while a dream was ongoing.reply
My dog is in the hallway though, WHO IS LICKING MY HAND??reply
I once dreamed an ogre with a huge club nearly hit me and his club thudded on the ground near me. Turns out a heavy object fell down in the living room.reply
Or put another way, AI is just an attempt to mimic the brain.reply
This is messing me up a little because on a surface level it reminds me of the multi-modal "AI" setups that are becoming popular now. Different models for different tasks that then "talk" to each other.reply
This is my choice too. The specific experiment I remember was that one side of the brain was shown 'music' and the other side was shown 'bell.' The patient was shown four images, Drummers, a Trumpet, an Orchestrion, and a 19th century schoolhouse with a bell in the tower. The side that received the 'bell' instruction pointed to the bell. The side that received the 'music' instruction made up a story that he walked across campus and heard a church bell, and that was the last musical thing he had heard, hence the choice...despite it being the least musical of the four items. It also reminds me of scientific studies claiming that the impulse to do something (for example dodge a dodgeball) comes before the decision to do so. It really just makes me think that our consciousness has zero impact on our current behavior. It is just a reinforcement mechanism. It analyzes and categorizes and Monday-Morning-Quarterbacks our behavior as it happens to use as an input for future behavior. And our lizard brains are doing all the actual decision making behind the scenes. But we've deluded ourselves into thinking we have free will.reply
Same happens with fast reactions such as touching something hot. There is a shortcut neural pathway that allows for super fast reactions, and then your brain 'fixes' time so that you believe you realized it was hot and then moved your hand away, but really you moved your hand away and then realized it was hot.reply
There is a science fiction book by Philip Dick that deals with this topic, A scanner darkly.reply
My wife is getting her PhD in neuropsychology and one of her clients at an externship was born without a Corpus Callosum. According to her, the client had a ton of difficulties with motor function and balance.reply
Not only that, but The Iberian ribbed newt (Pleurodeles waltl) defends itself by pushing its sharp ribs through its skin, creating "venomous" spikes to deter predators. When threatened, the newt rotates its ribs forward, puncturing its skin through orange, tubercle-lined warts, while secreting poison that coats the bones, causing pain to attackersreply
Evolution: it's an endless nightmare!reply
Clodsire is my newest favourite pokemon and he's not in champions it's a travestyreply
I knew that existed since I was a small child, but it was only as an adult that I saw video of it happening and HOLY FUCK IT SHOOTS BLOOD ABOUT 30 FEET. I thought it was like a little squirt of blood, not like an arterial rupture.reply
Must have taken the substance.reply
I thought Thor frog was bad.reply
“Do you know what happens to a toad when it's struck by lightning? Same thing that happens to everything else.”reply
It croaks! God damn it, Storm...reply
The studio execs put more effort into [fake scripts to fool Halle Berry]([link removed] it's no surprise Storm got what might've been the worst line ever in the original film. I guess the plus side is that there's still a lot of untapped potential for the character when the X-Men show up in the MCU.reply
There's a few that do that, actually, but the ones I know the most about are horned lizards (aka "horny toads")...mostly because they're native to where I live. They're pretty chill lizards, too: unless you get *really* weird with them, they'll let you pick them up, carry them, pet them, etc. And they like to eat ants, which was a huge bonus to me as a kid every time harvesters or fire ants would start a mound in my yard.reply
Who you callin’ frog, bub?reply
Ribbubreply
Whoa, whoa, whoa, that's OUR wordreply
Related, when reading the Iliad (and about it) I found out about the idea of the bicameral mind :[link removed] > According to the theory, the human mind once functioned with a division in which one part generated verbal instructions while a second part obeyed, forming a "bicameral mind". It's hard to describe, but the idea is that the kind of self-consciousness we have now wasn't always there, and that that is reflected in old beliefs about gods and supernatural forces, and how the characters in the Iliad behave.reply
It's so disgusting that everybody who has ever seen it instantly knows what you are talking about.reply
Clawmaxxingreply
That's cool and all but damn is it far less cool than I'd hopedreply
Yess....remenber that was so so disgustingreply
There are many similar phenomena - even in healthy peeps. I think it's called anognosia. Consciousness appears to be a PR department publication based on 5 handwritten memos with spelling mistakes.reply
Wow! This is amazing.reply
Alan Moore has a short story that uses this phenomenon exactly. I was simultaneously fascinated by that info and wo deres how he came up with that. So cool to randomly stumble on this in the wild.reply
Yes. I had an experience that reminded me the brain is an elaborate self-deception machine. I was running a 100 mile race. Hallucinations are common in these events. As night was falling, I saw just off the trail to the left two Roman centurion shields propped against each other to form a makeshift shelter and a battle axe head emerging from the top, as if someone had stuck it in the ground for the night. My brain instantly said this is weird but it must be a Pacific Crest Trail through-hiker who chose to do it in Roman costume, bedded down for the night, and this is how they camp. For those 45 seconds my mind never questioned this, even though I knew about hallucinations. My brain never questioned, couldn’t question the information it was taking in (my vision, what I saw), or its interpretation of what I saw. It instantly made a story that verified its intake, no matter how absurd. As I got closer it was two burnt tree stumps leaning against each other and a scraggly branch.reply
This makes me think of the [bicameral mind theory]([link removed]reply
This is a good point. We shouldn’t assume everyone is walking around with altered memories and biased thinking patterns… well, maybe we should.reply
That makes total sense. It reminds me of the experiences of those with dementia as well.reply
What did they find?reply
Makes sense. Peripheral vision is one way that sensory data informs our balance. I’d imagine hers would be majorly impacted.reply
The Hairy Frog, also known as the Horror Frog. The craziest part is that they do not actually have muscles to pull the claws back in once the danger is gone. The bone just passively slides back into the toe pad and the skin heals over the wound. Imagine having to break your own knuckles and shove them through your skin every time you got into a fight, only to have them sink back in and scab over ten minutes later. Absolute nightmare fuel.reply
Does this mean that in theory, a lobster in captivity with regular human intervention would never stop growing? It sounds like the limiting factor is their inability to escape their increasingly heavy/large shells when molting, but if that's the case, couldn't humans assist with that process to allow a lobster to keep growing?reply
I have false memories. Dream about it and committing it to memories.reply
Omg hahareply
House? I would assume most of it is super exaggerated. I love the show but I wouldn't trust it for medical accuracyreply
PLEASE PLEASE ELABORATE what religion?????reply
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This is awful thank you kind strangerreply
This is literally just like that Bob's Burgers episode where the kids try to save the aquarium from taxes by making it a fake religionreply
Yes. That also means we probably feel like we have a conscious account of something that was actually constructed. And some of experiments let us view that in real time.reply
The killer awoke before dawn,reply
Modern processors are almost always multitasking and have multiple interlinked cores.reply
So let’s jump on adding that into humans, yeah?reply
Well indeed it's very dumb. But also some gold from the ancestor's youtube. Thank you for sharing !reply
Lord, don’t them help themselves…reply
But when the tax man come to the door...reply
Lord, the house looking like a rummage sale, yeah…reply
It ain't me, It ain't me-e-ereply
I was trying to find some music one day and stumbled onto a huge swath of AI compilations with visuals of like landscapes or mushrooms or elves or all the above mophing into eachother. i wasn't high, i didnt even like the music, but GD did the visuals remind me of my dreams sometimes. trees turning into faces turning into buildings then clouds or whatever, super random, luridly colorful.... it creeped me out tbh.reply
Yep. Alex O’Conner is exactly who I would recommend myself.reply
Eeewww, I didn't want to know this!..reply
Too real. 😶reply
That's so interesting. Really highlights how we really can deceive ourselves and why being humble is importantreply
Wowreply
so would this work with hidden messaging? like if i flashed words on the left side of a screen throughout a movie would they see it but not be able to understand?reply
Only if the right eyeball couldn’t see it. These experiments were done with very controlled variables, like blocking the field of vision completely from the other eye. You’d need to ensure the left side of the screen couldn’t be seen by the right eye.reply
Reckon you’re well familiar with the brilliant works of Oliver Sacks. Anyone interested in this stuff should check him out.reply
I was born with a partially split brain. My mom knew I was born with it but never told me. I got an MRI at 18 and found out about it. I genuinely thought I was stupid growing up because there is stuff that can't really do that normal people do easily but I am pretty high functioning for the diagnosis.reply
Yes! I remember being fascinated by this when learning about in my Psychology undergrad. Pretty small cohort of patients.reply
Yes, that is another frustrating part. We found incredible results in this experiment. Very unexpected data. But it just highlights how we don’t fully understand how rationality and memory inform our idea of reality. And we can’t study this much further because it’s unethical to split people’s brains for study purposes. We are limited to those who undergo the procedure as treatment for something else.reply
This sounds like AI hallucinationreply
This becomes a central idea in A Scanner Darkly by Philip K Dick. I just finished reading it last week. It is a very interesting and horrifying thing to think about, the dissociative nature of having contradictions within your own brain that you cannot recognize.reply
Wow. I was very close to having my daughter get this for her epilepsy. It is so interesting to read on itreply
finally an explanation to my delusionsreply
I imagine you've read then, "My Stroke of Insight" and "The Tale of Dueling Neurosurgeons"reply
That sounds weirdly similar to AI hallucinations. They spit out nonsense with their whole chest.reply
I’ve been seeing this reply a lot so you’re not alone in seeing this pattern.reply
Do you recommend any podcast episodes that talk about this? This also fascinates me since I read about it.reply
Alex O’Conner brings it up a lot, especially on episodes he’s discussing consciousness. [This Link]([link removed] is to part 1/2 of a documentary from PBS that was recommended to me by another commenter. I thoroughly enjoyed it.reply
Thank you so much 🙏reply
Gazzaniga’s have long since been my favourite experiments, too, along with Milner and Goodale’s visual perception and action work into blindsight and agnosia. In fact so much so I had the privilege of working in Goodale’s lab on an elective many moons ago- I even got to meet some people with split corpus callosum caused by brain lesions who would fight with themselves over which shirt to take out the wardrobe. Thank you for reminding me of the split brain studies and how interesting they are, especially what they imply about how a healthy brain may believe it makes decisions through reason, whereas in fact it may instead be using reason to justify a decision already made!reply
Good ole fashioned AI hallucinationsreply
“It suggested that humans can sincerely experience invented explanations to genuine motives” Anyone who has ever dated a bi polar girl already knew thisreply
Yes, I remember reading about it. So fascinating and interesting to think about it. It sounds like the brain is build to avoid insanity caused by itself. Cognitive dissonance can’t be that far from this.reply
Jeez, I must be so jaded for the first thing to come to my mind with the brain ‘filling in why they walked there’ is the gov using this for mind control 😬reply
It makes you wonder how easily the brain can be interfered with completely beyond our notice, doesn’t it?reply
so, the right hemisphere can read but not communicate, while the left hemisphere is unable to verbally express why he walked because the knowledge is only contained in the right hemisphere. I wonder if the right hemisphere can feel frustrated because it’s unable to call out the ‘lie’, which is the explanation from the left side.reply
Jonathan Haidt talks about a similar concept in his book, The Righteous Mind. He applies it mostly to politics and belief systems, but explains that a lot of what our brain acts on is really quite emotion-based and instinctual, and then we justify and rationalize it with logic *after the fact.* I always try to keep this in mind when I reflect on my motivations.reply
My daughter has a form of non verbal autism. This is eerily close to how she interacts. Its like the connection between her left-right brain is muted, i compare it to an electrical connection that is sometimescoming loose. Some days its better than others, then the next day she "loses" the skills she had previously. It's all in there but she doesn't have the language capabilities to process normal speech.reply
I wonder what it would be like for someone who had their brain split and lost vison in their right eye. Would their brain adapt?reply
Indeed. That experiment actually appears to suggest that our decision making is often not as rational as we think, and that we _may_ be making decisions and then fabricating the narrative afterwards.reply
Im a psychologist and this was one of the earlier interests of mine as well. A later one became left lateral neglect (and learning of the underlying neuroarchitecture that makes it happen; search it up, it's pretty interesting). Anyway, I just wanted to add another bit of experiment findings with split brain. For one male participant, they were given a question: are you a man or woman, to their right hemisphere. He pointed to woman. This was obviously confusing and the participant started laughing. I forget what he said when asked why he was laughing, he may have just said I dont know. But it suggests the right hemi is capable of humor and as expected, can make verbal utterances, just not language production. A final point for anyone else is that split brain patients are well regarded as having virtually no significant troubles functioning in day to day life. The only issues that present are when they are essentially forced out, such as in these experiments. This is because in your regular life, both eyes will have saccades, your head moves, etc. Etc. So both hemispheres will be exposed to all the necessary information anyway, and thus very limited difficulties for the patient.reply
Another commenter left some information about a later set of experiments by Pinto that determined some split hemispheres could still communicate if given enough time to do so, using remaining connections in the brain stem. If I recall, it reminded me of lossless data vs compressed data. Perhaps the brain stem allows for a more rudimentary communication of simplified data that takes longer than the allotted response time for many of the earlier experiments.reply
Maybe an LLM hallucination is just a missing connection between another component that will allow it to better explain its stimulusreply
The left hemisphere noticed the body moving and reacted with an explanation and cooperation. The left hemisphere doesn’t initiate control over the right side of the body but it still can react to signals and movement within the entire body.reply
As a person who had epilepsy surgery, this was always fascinating to me. I had a amygdalohippocampectomy (lost half of my amygdala and hippocampus) and part of my right temporal lobe as well—I can still process memory info but it definitely made my ADHD worse lol. It’s crazy how fast the brain can rewire/adjust itself.reply
Karl Frisson, a very highly quoted brain scientist came up with predictive processing theory, which is basically that what we see is a mix of what is there and what we expect to be there. By "see" I mean not only vision, but every kind of brain function, is a mix of external data and expectation. So so lacking the external data of the instruction, the left hemisphere asked itself "what do I expect, why would I want to go there? oh there is a coke machine, sure I wanted that"reply
That poor salamander can't catch a breakreply
There's a PokĂŠmon designed after this. [Toxicroak.]([link removed] One of my favorites.reply
Wow, I've never heard about that before. What do you think about this? An octopus has three hearts two pump blood to the gills and the third pumps blood to the rest of the body.reply
Yes! There is a similar one with a shovel and a chicken coop. The brain was so capable of rationalizing an otherwise unexplainable set of events. It’s so odd that the person being experimented on didn’t just go “that’s weird why the heck did I do that?”reply
I’m watching it now. Thank you!reply
Well now I'm not gonna sleep tonight because I'll be thinking about thisreply
You’re just a plant poo breather!reply
I'll always love that one joke they did in [Futurama]([link removed] about thisreply
Fun fact those gut microbes are where most of your cravings come from, it’s them putting in an order for foodreply
Pay no attention to Salamander Lo, we purposely evolved him wrong as a joke.reply
Aha! I am bleeding! Making me the victor.reply
If we ever run out of oxygen that’s no problem. We could create a giant maid robot, and begin vacuuming another planets atmospherereply
Suck. Suck. Suck.reply
Blow. Blow. Blow.reply
"I understood that reference" -Captain Americareply
This was a great read. Thanks for sharing!reply
So if we had 30% oxygen now would humans become giantsreply
Not a biologist or biochemist, so if I'm wrong please someone correct me. As I understand it, insects don't take in oxygen via lungs, but through their surface. As beings grow, their surface goes ^2 but volume goes ^3, which means the bigger they are the more oxygen needs to be absorbed through a relatively smaller amount of air exposed surface. This puts an upper limit on growth, that scales with the amount of oxygen in the atmosphere. As we are mammals with lungs, we don't have the same restrictions. Our lungs get air from the atmosphere and our blood vessels transport this throughout our body. Our restrictions in height growth are more from our skeleton struggling to support our weight and our heart will struggle with blood circulation when growing too big. Sporters for example need more oxygen, so their heart grows bigger. This can lead to problems later in life, when out of the sport environment.reply
Bugs don't take it in through their surface, that stops being viable after a certain size. But they have holes in their sides called spiracles that has air flow into and act as an exchange surface for the oxygen. Essentially like lungs and alveoli, but with a muscle to control it and always open. Now this is all stuff I did a while back in biology so I'm not sure if I'm completely right.reply
We all take it in via surface (epithelium) or else it wouldn't be in. Lungs, like tracheoles (what's inside the spiracles), are essentially invaginated 'skin' (obviously thin, vascular). But heh, nitpicking. It's been a while for me too.reply
Sort of, but there are complicating factors. The square cube law is generally what causes problems for large creatures, but rarely actually comes into effect. Oxygen is a potential limiting factor for insects, but IIRC in practice it wasn't actually the oxygen levels going down that killed off large arthropods, but rather the introduction of competitor animals. Like birds, lizards, and other such creatures. Being a big insect is just a very bad survival strategy when mammals, lizards and birds exist. Its better to be really small and multiply a lot. As far as I understand, insects very likely could be giant and survive in this atmosphere, they would just get owned by everything else surviving in it and go extinct. Similarly, there isn't actually a lot limiting human growth, other than genetics and body structure. Elephants are land mammals like we are, and are just fine with their size in this atmosphere. Humans can grow really quite big, considering those with genetic or hormone disorders which cause increased size. The trouble is that it is rarely worth the tradeoff, since other health issues pop up. Andre the Giant being one of the most famous examples.reply
You're right about everything, but I would like to add that the skeleton restriction also applies to insects/arthropods. They have exoskeletons, which I think are even weaker than bones. This is why the biggest arthropods, both historically and currently (sea scorpions and spider crabs) have been in the ocean, where gravity has less effect. The oxygen is also a restriction, and when we had higher oxygen levels, there were big-ass centipedes. (*Arthropleura)*reply
No, our size is limited by our skeletons and how we're put together. We arent strong enough to lug around much larger bones, even if we had more oxygen. We'd end up reverting to being quadrupedal over timereply
Or whales with water to support our body weight.reply
TIL my mother-in-law is more highly evolved than I thought.reply
> No, our size is limited by our skeletons and how we're put together. Otherwise known as the square-cube law, yeah. The ability to support weight grows as the square of the increase in size, but the weight grows as the cube. This is, eventually: *no bueno*. It's also why feet and legs become thicker / stubbier on larger animals like rhinos and elephants.reply
Wouldn't more oxygen mean more fuel for cells and increased strength capacity?reply
Not exactly as the cells already load up on energy to capacity. Potentially more endurance though as it'll allow faster replenishment. Which thinking about it could allow for more strength by giving more room for muscle cells to spend their fuel fasterreply
Also fire as we know it could be unique to earth when there is no life anywhere else in the universe. Wood also would be the rarest "resource" in the universe, and we just wipe our asses with it.reply
that reminds me of how for eons, no bacteria existed that would break wood down as a form of energy, so when trees died, they just fell and... laid there, not rotting.reply
Yup. There was a period of roughly four hundred *thousand* years between the evolution in plants to produce lignin and the evolution in microbes to consume and digest it. The trees would just pile up until eventually something like a lightning strike started a fire that swept through the fallen trees and burned them down, repeating every so often. And this is why we have coal.reply
The time gap between the evolution of lignin and microbes that could eat it was much greater than 400k years. The time gap is likely 50-100 million years. Lignin eating microbes didn’t evolve until 300 Ma or so, whereas lignin producing plants first appeared 350-400 million years ago (probably closer to 400 + Ma for first appearance of lignin in the fossil record).reply
Oh I must be thinking of a different microbe then RIPreply
400k years doesn't sound very long on earth's timescale.reply
On the timescale of the planet as a whole? Sure. But how about on the timescale of how long it takes to grow a tree?reply
I’ve often thought that EVENTUALLY microbes will evolve to consume plastic. There is a lot of energy holding that material together. Too bad it couldn’t happen more quickly. (Not a biologist. Would welcome feedback)reply
There already are some, but only small populations that can only consume small amounts of specific plastic over timereply
Well they wouldn't rot as that's what the bacteria do. They just laid there and got covered over by more stuff, and eventually got compacted into fossil fuels.reply
It's also toxic, even to us, our cells have this symbiosis with mitochondria that turns it into fuel for the host cell, but free oxygen is still harmful to everything else in our cells/bodies.reply
Free version of almost any element is toxic. Anything highly reactive is.reply
This leads to one of the most interesting Fermi Paradox Solutions. The "Fire Problem". Earth is the only planet in our solar system where fire can exist. Fire is a combustion reaction that requires an oxidizer and on Earth that oxidizer is oxygen. Other substances can technically serve as oxidizers. For example, fluorine, chlorine, and nitrous oxide can sustain combustion without oxygen. But this doesn't open the door to life-bearing worlds with fire-based technology, because complex organic chemistry, and therefore life, can't survive in fluorine or chlorine-rich environments. Oxygen remains the only plausible oxidizer for a world that has both life and fire. But having oxygen isn't enough. You need the right amount of it. Too much oxygen means runaway fire. During the Carboniferous period when atmospheric oxygen levels were massively higher than today, wildfires were far more frequent and intense. Widespread, uncontrollable burning would devastate ecosystems, accelerate extinction rates, and interrupt the long-term development of technological life. Too little oxygen, and combustion becomes impossible or too weak to be useful. Without fire, there is no smelting of metals. Without smelting, there is no metallurgy, no engines, no industrial base. This is why dolphins, despite their intelligence, are not technological. The path from intelligence to space-faring civilization almost certainly runs through controlling fire. Could a species reach spacefaring or radio-transmitting capability without ever smelting metal? It seems highly unlikely, though it cannot be ruled out entirely. This leaves us with a narrow window: a planet needs life, an oxygen-rich but not oxygen-saturated atmosphere, and the right conditions for controlled combustion over long enough timescales for technological civilization to emerge. That window may be rare enough to explain "The Great Silence". This is not to say intelligent life isn't there, but only to explain why they aren't visiting, leaving artifacts we can see, broadcasting, or colonizing other planets.reply
An so the microbes in a last ditch effort to survive the oxygen-apocalypse their advanced civilization created. They developed humans through gene modification to act as bio bunkers for survival in hopes they one day the “toxic wasteland of oxygen” they created would one day heal itself?reply
Wel, maybe that's why human-caused global warming is a thing 😅reply
It's been eons in the making, but their plan is finally nearing fruition.reply
It's nice to think that our lives have a purposereply
Iirc, that's what antioxidants help with.reply
Stumbled upon a video where it was explained that the oxygen level didn't actually have all that much to do with insects being larger - and that the reason for them getting smaller was because of a lot of predators in the sky. No source.reply
Yep! Especially because some of the absolute largest flying arthropods, like Meganeuropsis, evolved only *after* the Carboniferous rainforest collapse in the early Permianreply
Chemically speaking, our metabolism is just a very low-intensity, long-term fire. The word "burning" in "burning calories" is actually the less figurative one. Needless to say, ongoing fires in every cell of the body can cause problems if allowed to escape confinement.reply
Woooooooooaaaaaahhhh we're halfway theeere!reply
WoooOOOOrghchchc... sorry. That note is to high for me.reply
I actually found that out just days ago! (That oxygen becomes toxic at high pressures) I was watching a documentary on recovery teams/divers after a boat/ship sinks and the narrator mentioned them having to use some kind of mixture of oxygen and smth else (I forgot what, wanna say co2 but I could be incorrect) and it stunned me Lmaoreply
Really deep dives involve tri-mix. You need enough oxygen to breath but at deep depths the percentage must be lowered so it is not toxic. Similarly with Nitrogen - although you don't need it like oxygen, at deep depths you can get Nitrogen Narcosis ("rapture of the deep") - they say it is like being drunk but imho it is quite different but clearly a problem. So they mix in helium (which is inert) so you get the right amount of oxygen and nitrogen. As you change depths you must change the mix. Trimix diving is complicated.reply
I always tell people that oxygen is literally poisoning us in a sense. But oh wellreply
We are meat space suits.reply
Beat me to it. I will pay close attention to more papers about this.reply
How come that oxygen level enabled massive insects?reply
Because insects don’t breathe with lungs but with diffusion. They draw oxygen from the surrounding air because there is less of it inside their bodies and nature craves entropy. That only works up to a point and that point (which controls the size of the insect) shifts with the concentration of oxygen. The reason is that larger creatures need more oxygen and they can’t force it into their bodies.reply
May all be incorrect [link removed]reply
Ah well, science has moved on since my days in biology class. Thank you!reply
To be fair, it's a REALLY recent study.reply
Insects don't have lungs. They diffuse oxygen directly from the atmosphere. A higher amount of oxygen means they could diffuse it deeper into their bodies. A lower amount wouldn't reach as deep and bigger bodies would "suffocate" inside.reply
May not be true [link removed]reply
I once spent an hour in discussion with a brilliant intensivist where the entire lesson is oxygen is the source of life and lack of oxygen truly is the only thing that kills a human- all causes of death boil down to a lack of oxygenreply
I need to know what salamenders because i'm sure at 100% it was the inspo for Clodsirereply
How big were the roaches?reply
This is so fucken cool! I did not know this and greatly appreciate this information. Thanks for sharing!reply
Oxygen (especially free radical oxygen) is a potent carcinogen.reply
Kinda the plot of the lorax where all trees were killed and people get their oxygen delivered every morning in bottlesreply
Also massive fires. It's crazy how a few percents more makes everything more flammable.reply
They [made an alternate version of the Pokemon Quagsire based on it.]([link removed]reply
So, oxygen is totally bootstrapped?reply
I can do that when threatened but only oncereply
That made me very curious about the potential that the *average* oxygen content was in the 30-35%, but actually cycled up and down, such that there were somewhat more rapid cycles of inferno followed by growth (well, geologically incredibly rapid, probably a cycle of decades or more). Is that a reasonable hypothesis, or is there evidence that contradicts that?reply
Possibly not true [link removed]reply
I'd imagine predators, potential friends, and lovers.reply
In the times when the oxygen was below 16% or so there were no wild fires. Fire was impossible.reply
I never appreciated how crazy importabt the ozone is for us. I mean, I *knew* about it and all the little details, but couldn't feel the gravity of its importance until I first stepped out into the sun in Australia, whee the ozone is significantly thinner. My skin felt like millions of pins and needles hitting me.reply
Danke schoen, prehistoric microbe friends!reply
Always been an incredible thought to me that we breathe a flammable gas. Not just any flammable gas, but THE one that is essential for flame. We imagine so many other gasses like methane or CO2 as poisonous or volatile but one spark near O2 and BOOM!reply
Also the squid/fish/whatever that shits its own intestines out to baffle/scare potential predators, because it’ll regrow anyway.reply
I think you're referring to sea cucumbers.reply
Right hahareply
The Lots Of Oxygen theory has recently been disproven, and it seems it was just lack of competition. Birds keep insects to a reasonable size apparentlyreply
I just want to stay in a wildfire hazereply
It really is a mood. If only it werent so irritatingreply
but those maroon sunsets are unbeatablereply
Tell me morereply
The amount of random shit that needed to happen, for us to be here and type this, is mind boggling. Really drives home how insanely much ~4 billion years of evolution is.reply
It's thanks to free oxygen in the atmosphere that iron turned into iron ore, which is reddish. Then there is the so-called "red planet" in our solar system that gets its color from iron ore. 🤔reply
> Because oxygen wouldn't really be in the atmosphere without life, it's also a potential biosignature. If we ever detect a planet with a stable, oxygen-rich atmosphere (especially alongside gases it shouldn’t chemically coexist with) it’s strong evidence that something is actively producing it... possibly even life. They've already detected DMS (Dimyethyl Sulfide) — a chemical almost uniquely associated with life on Earth on exoplanet K2-18b. Dimyethyl Sulfide is only known to exist on Earth as a byproduct of life. Certain plants and marine microbes produce chemicals that break down into DMS. There is no known other source of DMS on Earth, meaning it does not occur naturally through geologic origin.reply
*To help the terror*: most oxygen is produced by the ocean's microorganisms (Prochlorococcus in particular), which don't survive high-heat events (>82F, 28C) and acidification, both of which are happening due to co2 release by burning oil that contained previously sequestered carbon. We're looking at a drop in oxygen production of up to 10%. Evolution won't keep up - even a 2 degree enhancement in its survival range won't let it survive the rate of warming. This year's warming event in the Pacific ("NEP25A Marine Heatwave") is already surpassing the temperature limit in wide swaths of that body of water. By 2075, we're looking at average tropical temperatures regularly hitting the 28C limit that kills off the bacteria that makes our oxygen. The "tropical" limit is a bigger deal than it sounds: most surface area per degree of latitude, and, of course, everything will just keep getting worse after 2075. Finally, getting CO2 out of the atmosphere still takes *decades* of various feedback loops before it shows results. And we get dumber as the concentration goes up: projections show significant cognitive impairment within 50 years, toxicity in a few hundred. Oh, and the tundra's already thawing, and that's releasing sequestered methane, which is way worse than CO2 and it decays into CO2 while binding O2. It's projected to accelerate the various timelines quite badly. 50 years drops to 15 years for cognitive impairment. And no one's modeling the ocean floor's methane clathrates, but that's a bigger source of methane than the tundra. We should be responding to climate change like the existential threat it is.reply
I’ll never not be fascinated by how interconnected everything is and how it all builds upon itself to create the world we live in. So fragile.reply
Maybe by the time we figure out how to live without oxygen we'll have made some really excellent sunblock.reply
Wasnt there a nature paper recently that said the giant insect thing probably wasn't true?reply
One way it does this is by forming reactive oxygen species/ROS (there's even oxidative stress, where ROS levels sharply increase)reply
The size of the insects during the Carboniferous was not due to the oxygen levels in the air, that's a widely spread misconception originating from now-outdated research. With myths like these - that oxygen content allows for larger insects -, it's always interesting to ask a few questions about it, such as: 1. If you put a butterfly in an enclosed container and pump in 30% oxygen, will it grow larger? 2. Do our current oxygen levels prevent the formation of large arthropods? 3. Did the oxygen level in the Carboniferous also increase the size of other land animals? The answer to all of these is, of course, "no". Insects don't care much about the oxygen content of their air as long as it's enough for them to survive. Lobsters get pretty big and, like insects, are athropods, but unlike insects, can breathe comparatively oxygen-poor seawater, suggesting that insects probably wouldn't need much oxygen for growth either. And the answer to the third question is key to understanding the actual reason of insect sizes during the Carboniferous: there *were no other land animals* during that era. Just none, nothing else had evolved yet! For land animals, it was all insects (plus some centipedes and arachnids). The reason that insects could get that large is simply that they didn't have any competition. But today, evolution forces insects to be much smaller, because they, frankly, suck at being animals. Insects have bad eyesight and sensory organs, tend to be slower as they get larger because of their inefficient breathing, and most importantly, they're dumb as a sack of bricks. There's no way that larger flying insects can match birds when they're competing for the same evolutionary niche. An eagle can spot prey while soaring thousands of feet high in the air, a dragonfly is lucky if it doesn't bump into the tree right in front of it. Crows can use tools to crack open shells and get access to food, moths will fly into a flame to burn and die because they think it looks kind of like the sun and the sun is up and up is the direction they want to go. So, no. Oxygen content alone won't help them, at all. They just got outcompeted.reply
> dragonflies such as Meganeuropsis permiana, with wingspans over 2 feet. I think we had those in our UK garden a few years ago. Our cat would bring them inside and they were insanely loud. Ok, maybe not 2 feet, but a good 10 inch wingspan on them with a body as thick as my middle finger *before I lost weight*.reply
My sister once sent me a horrifying video about what would happen if the ecosystem collapsed. Basically we all suffocate. Thanks sis.reply
If life existed before photosynthesis and oxygen in the atmosphere, isn't non-oxygen atmosphere also a potential bio signature? Also. How do we know the source of oxygen is a process linked to life on other planets? It's not like plants create oxygen out of thin air, they just take it out of already existing compounds that contain oxygen. Plenty of inorganic processes can do that too. UV radiation is one driver for such pathways I know you said potential but it's just half the story. Oxygen can also be potential signature of no life too. And it might be more common because chemical reactions take place all the time, even complex ones. Without lifereply
In answer to your first question: oxygen isn't the only bio signature! There are a host of molecules that exist on earth only as a result of life producing it, and those are the molecules we're looking for. For example, CO2 exists in large amounts even in places without life present (see Venus) so finding that on an exoplanet wouldn't make us wonder if there's life. To your second question: oxygen exists because it was created in the core of stars, and when those stars go nova they spread it across space. Some of it ends up in planets formed around new stars. But because oxygen reacts with other elements easily (hydrogen for water, carbon for CO2, iron for iron oxide), we wouldn't expect to find it in a planet that's billions of years old. By that point, all of it should have bonded with other elements. On Earth the main process that breaks oxygen's bonds with other elements is photosynthesis, which takes CO2 and pulls the oxygen off the carbon and releases it. It's 100% possible that there is another natural phenomenon in the universe which can pull oxygen out of CO2 or H2O or any other molecule. But because the only way we see it done naturally is in living beings, we assume if we find it it's very possibly life. And if it isn't, then we get to find out what other force in the cosmos can create free oxygen!reply
Where is it?reply
If we find it, do we get free drinks?reply
Got jumpscared by my country namereply
Don't worry, the Precambrian creepy-crawlies have been dead for 2 billion years and can't hurt you.reply
I hated differential equations. This fact might have motivated me to try a little harder.reply
It was the class that broke me and made me transfer from the school of engineering to arts and sciences, where I ultimately ended up with degrees in economics and political science lol.reply
I'm almost the same story - DE killed my engineering aspirations; went Economics and Statistics.reply
I can look at 2 equations and tell you if they're different. That's about as far I can go in that area.reply
> but Diff Eqs was at 8 AM, so I took Graph Theory instead Huh? Isn't DiffEqs a first or second year math requirement? Did your university just let you skip that and make you take an intro to proofs before intro real analysis/advanced calculus?reply
IIRC, we were required to take 3 semesters of Calculus and 1 of Linear Algebra, but could take a variety of other classes to fill out the major. I did Advanced Calculus, a couple abstract algebra classes, probability, discrete mathematics, graph theory, and one or two others. Note that this was many decades ago. There were no High School AP math options. On the other hand, a lot less math had been invented.reply
I just saw a comment about 11 year olds having dads that are lil wayne fans. Now im reading that you graduated long enough ago that “a lot less had been invented.” Just please tell me you graduated in the 1900s. Cause if you say after Y2k, I’m gonna go in shellshock again. A lot less math had been invented. Why do I think of math as a static thing? Of course there’s a bunch of theories that are still evolving.reply
Yes, the 1980’s. And it was just a joke. Well, not the part about no AP classes being available.reply
Yeah to be clear, if you're learning it in an undergrad math course, the material is probably at least a century old. What's changed in that time is the pedagogy.reply
My math degree didn't mandate DiffEq. IIRC there were about five or six subdivided tracks, of which I had to pick three. DiffEq was on only one of them, and I didn't take it because the courses were early in the morning. The ones I took were all the calculus and real analysis, a bunch of discrete maths and graph theory, and a bit of statistics.reply
Wait a second... I was a computer science major in the late 90s and DiffEq was a required course for our program. I have a math minor because by the time I got done with all of the math requirements for my CS degree I only needed one more upper level math class to get it. How did I have to take DiffEq and you, as a math major, did not?! This is some bullshit right here! ETA: I got a C+ in DiffEq and I am more proud of that grade than any other grade I received in my degree. A in Calc3 (multi-variable calc)... pffft... C+ in DiffEq, yeah baby!reply
so for us we didn't have to take DiffEQ for math major but we had to take it for Physics. lot of math majors skipped it and took Topology instead in addition to all the other ones like discrete and probability in addition to all the calc classes, that may have changed, i graduated over 20 years agoreply
It seems I owe my teacher an apologyreply
I'm sorry NATURAL nuclear reactor?reply
Yeah I forget all the deets but info is easy to find onlinereply
Yep. Somehow all the freaky geology ended up there. (Well, unless there were other things and they've just been eroded away by now.)reply
I did Differential and Integral calculus in my undergrad, and as one of the only people in my geoscience degree to do those subjects I'm happy to say they've been almost completely useless my entire career so far.reply
I had a CS major as well and went into IT. Other than maybe running some correlation studies once or twice, I’m not sure I ever used anything more than first semester HS algebra at work the entire time. One time at a bar a bunch of actuaries and I were trying to remember the quadratic equation m, pre smart phones. We were close but unsuccessful.reply
best I could do without looking it up is something something something minus 4 ac over 2 a I definitely used it to calculate pH in a way that 30odd years of separation means I absolutely cannot recall it.reply
I went for Geological Engineering, so I had to take the extra math classes and more civil eng classes. Why did I choose the option that got rid of the fun dino classes so I could take more math? T.Treply
Differential equations in college was the class that finally broke me. I transferred out of the School of engineering and into arts and sciences, ending up with an economics and political science degree lol.reply
This reminds me of the joke: > Will I ever use this math in real life? > You won't, but some of the smart kids mightreply
Cool, Manuel Lin-Miranda made a song about Hamilton meeting the gang at a bar!reply
I boggled on this one. But current research (2026): "The coincidence of this anomalous Paleoproterozoic nutrient-rich window with the earliest known marine experimentation at macrobiological complexity, represented by the much-debated 2.1 Ga Francevillian macrobiota, challenges established timelines of biological innovation and environmental prerequisites." Yow. [[link removed]reply
Calculus is used eeeeeverywhere, not just in Ăźber-advanced sci-fi machines.reply
You can major in math without taking dIfferential equations?reply
Is it a problem if my town is locally Euclidean but globally cursed?reply
My brother did commerce degree to be an accountant. Selected his lectures & tutorials into M-W so he could have 4 day weekend's 😅reply
Diff Eq not being a requirement for a math major? My engineering degree required it as did the several math majors I know. That's insane that you could get out of it.reply
It's baffling to me too. Also an engineer and I had two different DIff Eq courses, one for ODE and one for PDE.reply
Was linear algebra a prerequisite, like it should be?reply
I think they were co-reqs for me, but it's been a whilereply
It's 100% a general requirement for an engineering degree. Typical math req is calc(1/2/3), linear, and diffEQ. On an unrelated note, cal poly SLO is the only one to require ochem for EE/EECS. I never figured out why and just assumed it was a weeder class.reply
I'm picturing half of the homeless population in socal as former EE majors who couldn't learn the Krebs cycle.reply
I got out of diff eq with a stats focus but still had to take linear algebra and intro to analysis. Pure math majors had to take both and I think engineering majors mostly had linear algebra and diff eq as one class either in the math department or in their own department.reply
Wait til you learn about the reason we don‘t all spontaneously go up in flames.reply
tree fart momentreply
I knew all this but the way you summed it up in one text puts it into a new perspective.reply
Another big thing triggered by the Great Oxidation Event was the oceans rusting. Took about 500 million years.reply
Thanks, that was very interesting and informative!reply
Another bizarre little oxygen fact is that it's actually the third most common element in the universe, thanks to the quirks of fusion reactions. Which also means that water, the most common combination of the first and third most common things in the universe, is ludicrously abundant, with a good chunk of the free mass in our solar system being made out of water ice. But somewhat confusingly, water vapor and liquid water are quite rare. This is because when you're close enough to a sun for it to be warm enough to form, the solar radiation will break up the water molecules; the oxygen will react with something else, while the hydrogen can just escape the planet entirely. This means that over geologic timescales, a planet that starts with oceans is likely to lose them. Only a strong magnetic field, to deflect enough solar flux to prevent water decomposition, can preserve them. Mars's lack of one is thought to be the primary reason why it doesn't have oceans anymore. So our magnetic field let Earth keep liquid water, which life used to create atmospheric oxygen while locking up the freed hydrogen in organic compounds, which helped create the ozone layer, which let more complex life evolve.reply
this post made me breathe harder to save the oxygenreply
Also oxygen in its natural state as an O2 molecule is a biradical meaning that despite commonly being depicted as a nonradical in Lewis-structures learned in school it actually has 2 unpaired electrons that don't pair up due to spin pairing energy being too high. Radicals are, if not properly stabilised by bulkiness (also called sterically hindered) and hyperpolarisation, extremely reactive. The point I'm making is that radicals are freaking reactive and oxygen as a biradical has no business to exist in these quantities for any prolonged periods in time. Now here's the crazy part: Most molecules exist in a singulet state, which is usually their more stable state and they get more reactive if you excite them to their triplet state. Oxygen doesn't give a shit about the "usual" and naturally exists in a triplet state which is more stable for oxygen and its singulet state is the more reactive and unstable state. This might not sound so important, but quantum mechanics sort of dictates that for a reaction to occure their states have to be in the same state. But mostly everything is in a singulet state while oxygen is in a triplet state. So oxygen first has to convert into a singulet state for a reaction to happen and this takes a bunch of energy. So a reaction either happens statistically when a random oxygen molecule has enough energy or you have to force the reaction by heating or other forms of energy. So the only reason everything isn't just spontaneously combusting due to freaky reactive molecules is this weird anomaly in one of the most important elements for known life.reply
Calculus is used all the time in things you probably don't realize. Cruise control in your car, for instance, is a linear state feedback controller, so not only is it calculus, it's calculus with matrices.reply
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I don't agree with this notion that they got outcompeted because they are suck at being animals, also, there's no reason to think insects or arthopods in general couldn't evolve higher intelligence. If vertebrates were truly better than arthopods because of their superior eyes or whatever they would be able to outcompete insects in the small size niches too, clearly this is not happening. The fact is that an exoskeleton scales poorly with size due to the square cube law, especially if you need to fly, but it's an incredibly good adaptation if you stay small because it provides a tough but lightweight suit of armour, hence why arthopods dominate the small size niches while vertebrates are barely represented.reply
I drop that an octave when I sing it. Right note, wrong register, nobody cares.reply
More oxygen above 21.5% is bad for us and leads to hyperoxia. Causes oxidative damage in the cells.reply
Oxygen is the oxidizer in the fuel-oxidizer reaction, it can mean you can have more physical exertion and go for longer, as if you were wearing an oxygen mask. But that just means you burn more fuel and get hungry faster. If thats the difference between hunting a gazelle or not it could be helpful, but no generally.reply
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That sounds more like a Traveling Salesman Problem.reply
Exactly. Traveling Salesman is just finding the shortest Hamiltonian Circuit. In the case of the Traveling Drunk Problem it probably matters if he is walking or taking Ubers. With Uber you probably want the shortest individual segments to prevent barfing in the car, while a walking circuit might benefit from longer segments between bars to sober up some. They probably covered that part in Advanced Graph Theory.reply
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Like to think that if aliens came to earth they will see us as freaks to be living and breathing such a toxic chemical. Also wood, wood if you think about it is a pretty cool material to an alien, a naturally occurring building material that turns sun energy and carbon in the air into some pretty tough but flexible material that we humans can harvest and make stuff out of.reply
Oh so early life showed up before the formation of the ozone layer? Never knew that, I always thought that part of the equation that produces life was the ozone layer keeping the atmosphere stable. Life can exist anywhere can't it.reply
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>No oxygen, no ozone, and a lot more skin cancer. Or worse. Life would probably have evolved to be more scaly, lizard-like creatures would rule the world instead of mammals.reply
That is incredibly coolreply
Wait so that must mean us humans producing Co2 is in the natural order of things! /sreply
Interestingly, I just saw a random post saying we found something with an ozone layer out past Plutoreply
That oxygen also eat all the iron on earth before it started poolingreply
I mean… I see a lot of climate scientists talk about this a lot.reply
Also trees existed for million years before bacteria that could break up trees hard part (lignin) appeared This is an interesting thing regarding stuff like plastic and nuclear byproducts. It's entirely possible that eventually they will become parts of basically natural cycles. Literally for millions of years trees would only partially rot, the rest would just pile up foreverreply
I learned something new today. You’re always told that trees and plants produce oxygen, but I thought that just meant they produce MORE of it.reply
Keep burning hydrocarbons, got it!reply
Nice. I like appreciating things I never considered before.reply
But don’t we get most of our oxygen from the ocean ?reply
what about the recent discovery of “black oxygen” at ocean bottoms? does that change the life always = oxygen equation at all?reply
But mining coal good. Burning coal good. Orange man say burn baby burn so must be good. Science lies.reply
thanks, it was amazingly explainedreply
I love this comment, this is so interesting and I love how you explain things. Do you do podcasts or write?reply
Thank you! I'm not a writer or podcaster, but I used to teach!reply
Oxygen was basically toxic excrement produced by some microbes that killed other microbes. Now we are dependent on it. Humans might do a lot of damage to the Earth, even make it uninhabitable for humans, but the Earth will go on.reply
So what you're saying is... we're doomed.reply
One note. It didn't build up to today's levels. It was higher in the past and has been on a steady slow decline since. I almost speculated as to the cause of this but I'm not an expert and I feel like saying more than this isn't really my place.reply
>No oxygen, no ozone, and a lot more skin cancer. Or worse. While I like your write up, if there was no oxygen or ozone, then there wouldnt be any worry about skin cancer. since, we would cease to exist.reply
Tl;dr - If you enjoy breathing, thank a plant.reply
To add to this, at 150 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere plants begin to respire, and photosynthesis stops.reply
And an oxygen deficient atmosphere is not 0%. It only has to drop below 19.5% to be a problemreply
So the hole in the ozone was us basically fittin to suffocate?reply
I love this. I don't why, but I do.reply
Well, start combing the desert then!reply
Oxygen is not just the engine of evolution and life , but also the single most important cause of aging and age related disease. It is hopeful , as it shows us that aging is neither programmed nor inevitable even though it can not easily be put off.reply
"an invisible blend of gases so addictive, we suffer fatal withdrawal symptoms within minutes of our supply being cut off” -Cunkreply
Best part is that those organisms the evolved to use oxygen? Yah, it's still toxic to them and its a major reason that DNA corrodes and aging happens.reply
TLDR.reply
Shout out to the Fourier Transformation!reply
Check out The Science of Everything [Episode 154: Magnetic Resonance Imaging]([link removed] It was a fun listen.reply
I want to see the funding request for that. Seriously.reply
<rattles paper> You want to *what* with *what*?!?reply
> Memory hallucinations are real. So, apparently, memories aren't real, not in the way most people believe. We don't recall events like watching a recorded movie. Rather, we sort of recall the act of committing that event to memory. Even worse, every time we recall a memory, we're not thinking of the original copy, we're thinking of the previous time we thought of the memory. On top of that, our brains habitually fill in gaps. For example: brains fill in blind spots automatically. So during the event, we commit what we see to memory, but since nobody has perfect vision, we include whatever our brain used to fill in the blind spot. Same happens with noises and sound that we normally ignore to pick out conversations. Same happens with people and faces in crowds we ignore because we're focused on looking for people important to us. So aside from the few people in the world (< 100) with seemingly perfect memory, during recall, our brains are always remembering an imperfect copy. Also, the reason most of us don't have perfect memory seems to be associated with forgetting traumatic events so we don't constantly torture ourselves, which is why with trauma, humans seem to retain strong fixation with some specific details while effectively ignoring most of the rest. So, let's take your example of going to the hospital. When it happened, your wee immature 3 year old brain committed details of the event to memory. At that age, your brain couldn't accurately process much, so you misinterpreted or didn't notice that many facts and details. Later, when you thought back on the event, you were actually reversing the process of committing events to memory, back through your likely still-toddler immature brain, so probably fudged some details and, based on your general knowledge, filled in gaps and "fixed" inconsistencies based on your "common sense". As you grew older, every time you thought back to that event, you were digging up the previous commit to memory, not the initial commit from when you were 3 years old. The longer the previous recollection sat in your brain, the more details got lost or fudged without you noticing. Then, each time you recalled the memory (but are actually recalling the previous time you were thinking of the memory), more details got lost, glossed over, or "fixed" based on your "common sense" at the time. Finally, you committed the process of recollection to your memory for the next time you want to think back to that old memory (which was actually lost long ago). If you're familiar with analog media records like vinyl and film, it's much like making a new copy every time you play back the recording. The errors keep increasing but most people can still largely understand the general gist because we're using our common sense and (ironically) memory of previous playbacks to fill in the missing details. Old analog records often rot in storage, producing noisy and low quality copies, if there's anything left to copy at all. Digital media has so much error correction built-in to compensate for quantum mechanics that most people are accustomed to perfect record retention. However, even digital archives can degrade as people with old digital photos on CD's have experienced. Anyway, that is generally how memories will change over time. The older the memory and the more you think of the memory, the more it changes. This is also why eyewitnesses often give conflicting testimony between the initial interview and the witness stand. Legal procedure takes so long that by the time they are asked for a recounting in front of the judge/jury, the memory of the memory of the memory... etc... no longer matches.reply
When my best friend passed away I had this weird thing about not wanting to recall memories about him for that reason. Kinda fucked me up for awhile lolreply
There's danger from the other end. Things not thought about for long enough can get pruned from retrievable memory entirely.reply
Also adding on to that, you don't actually ever see anything in real time. There's lag between what your eye sees and what your brain translates, what you "see" is mostly just a rendering of what your brain think happened in that period, so at no point in your formation of a memory is the memory ever objectively accurate to reality. It's nearly statistically impossible that you've ever had even close to an accurate memory, ever. There are like 100's of details in any given memory that are wrong.reply
Yeah, but they also chopped some of the ant's legs shorter as well.reply
Humans do some barbaric things to lifeforms we deem lesser. Look up "eyestalk ablation". I learned about this a while ago and it's horrific.reply
> Look up "eyestalk ablation" No, I don't think I will.reply
My thoughts exactlyreply
I just looked it up. How the hell did we even discover that?reply
We're clever in general.reply
There's a post one dude conducting research on how to combat invasive fish and just decided to blend some of the fish and dump them on top of thier eggs. This resulted in 80% mortality rate; compared to chemical and electric methods which resulted in about 40% kill rate.reply
I would assume that blending fish has a much higher than 80% mortality rate. This dude needs a new blender.reply
From the same scientist talking about getting blood from [bats]([link removed] >...we would mark them and take a small blood sample, which is difficult using syringes; even the smallest cannulas are too large for these tiny animals. Instead, we used bugs, and I mean true bugs that suck blood. Once the bug was full, **we cut off its head and squeezed out the blood** to get a blood sample.reply
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I mean, if you wanna get stilts the right size you gotta source the materials from somewhere...reply
What about the toes? Short ants have them, but they lack toes in taller ants.reply
Tiny ants all confused, "I've been Lieutenant Daned, and you get the prosthetics?!"reply
It's the shrimp on a treadmill all over again, except this one isn't being used politicallyreply
It's the shrimp on what now!?!!reply
On a [treadmill]([link removed] It investigated how bacteria and pollution affect the immune systems of shrimp!reply
I wanna see picture!reply
Here you go: [[link removed]reply
There's a version with stumps. Of course there's an ant with stumps. That's what humans do.reply
Ok so for the ants got half of their legs cut off...not so goodreply
Sadly yes, I was hoping for mini stilts and then mega stilts or something.reply
"pls grANT", surely?reply
no wayreply
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Those were the lucky ones. Some of them had their legs shortened.reply
"Fucking asshole humans"reply
Well, NMR spectroscopy was around for a long time before MRI imaging was developed in the 1970s, so the theory and technology were established. The real trick to MRI is using variable magnetic fields in just the right way so that you are only detecting signals from a small volume in the body, and then you move that volume around to build the scan. Which is why MRI is so noisy and takes such a long time.reply
I would say the "real trick" is to sample signals in the frequency domain and then reconstruct the image using inverse FFT.reply
Speak not to me of the deep magic. I was there when it was written.reply
I work in MRI at a hospital. The one that surprises people sometimes is when we ask about their tattoos. Some lower quality tattoos use iron in the ink, which can burn the patient when it heats up from the scan. We prefer our patients not be burned, and so far, they have all appreciated that.reply
What do you do if they have a low quality tattoo? Wrap it in lead or something?reply
> Wrap it in lead This doesn't work with MRIs btw. There's no (x-ray) radiation involved, it's all magnets and radio waves :)reply
We try not to scan them if we think something could happen. You sometimes have to have icepacks on hand if they REALLY need the MRI. Other times, the MRI is just being used as a luxury, and the doctor decides it isn't worth the risk and to use another scan instead.reply
wait till you learn that CT is just a bunch of xrays that were correlated.reply
Oh man, the CT scanner is one of my favorite machines to use. Being able to look inside of a device with such insanely intricate detail is just amazing. Seeing the internal wire bonds of chip packages, the layers that make up capacitors and inductors, it’s all amazing. And for when CT scans aren’t high enough of a resolution, we’ve got focused ion beam milling for when we need to slice a wirebond in half hot-dog wise. And when we need to find a microamp of leakage current somewhere, there’s lock-in thermography. Oh and there’s our high-speed 2D X-ray that can run at 2,000 frames per second so you can see what exactly goes on the inside of a phone or computer when it hits the ground. We spend so much money breaking things and figuring out exactly how they broke. I love it.reply
2000 frames per second??? I didnt know we had detectors that scan that fast. like thats insanely fasts. even with eh fastest ct scaners. Its getting like 200 frames per second with like 3-5 revolutions per second. I am in medical ct and xray.reply
You can do a whole lot more when you don't have to worry about how much you're irradiating your subject. I've read articles where they CT'd *rocks* to get pictures of the fossils (i.e, slightly different rocks) inside.reply
mmm sativa. so sunny. sunshine and happiness. Oh hey, do you think flowers experience happiness? Like, when they bend and stuff, are they, like happy? Hear me out, they can get all bendy without water, but sunshine? Or, wait. Its probably both maybe. Which do you think is more important? Write that down *tokes* anyway...so about the other thing, did we finish the paper on how spiders got wings?reply
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I find pet scan to be more crazy. Literally Positron Emission Tomography. Using literal antimatter to scan humans.reply
I do that as a job and it still blows my mind when I really explain it to people.reply
As a recent nat sci graduate, I'm so insanely jealous of scientists who get to do things like this. I can only imagine how fun it must be to write that grant as the researcher and to read it as the people who'll provide funding.reply
I review grant applications, mostly for various federal agencies. A major reason I do it is to see the cool, innovative ideas organizations have to tackle the same issues. Some are cookie cutter, just tweaking a decades-old program, but some are just amazing. And I’ve learned about some really cool, very specific areas and niche populations in the US.reply
> And I’ve learned about some really cool, very specific areas and niche populations in the US. Go on...reply
Whoa you actually read the proposals? I write proposals and a good 50% of rejections *and* acceptances make it clear that nobody read anything.reply
I both work with these and have to use one myself once in a while. People would never get in one again if they saw the speed, weight and strength of everything lpl.reply
It's perfectly safe, if anything breaks while it's spinning the safest place to be is in the middle where the centripetal/centrifugal forces are shooting everything away from you.reply
A guy died last year because he walked in to the MRI room wearing a massive metal chain.reply
[link removed] His wife called him into the room. He entered, without permission.reply
One poor person had a silicon butt plug in, it also had a small metal core(claimed it was metal free on the site)...it was ripped through the body. I think they lived but they had multuple organs punctured.reply
“poor person”!? Darwin Award contender.reply
just why would you go to mri with a butt plug in? surely not a time to be horny?reply
Why do so many people go shopping with " remote controlled devices" in or on them? I know this because...science!!! Neighbor made a device thwtnover rides signals and turns things on as a side project...he walked through a grocery store turning it on and off and wow we're there a lot of noises. People are weird.reply
Even if we ignore everything else, metal can't be the best thing to use in a butt plug.reply
MRIs don’t spin. CTs are the spinny ones.reply
Oh we know that and plenty of patients do but there are always the people that see one working and say they'd never get in one no matter what. There were some wild safety videos where I work now and it gives you a lot of respect for the idea that some of the most dangerous things are things you can't see.reply
As someone who needed routine MRIs a LOT as a kid I never understood why people are afraid of them. Maybe if you're afraid of the tight space but otherwise? What is there to fear, truly? Assuming you don't have any metal on obviously. What am I missing lol.reply
Tight space and it makes a LOT of loud weird noises all around you. And you have been instructed to hold very still no matter what. It's tense and gets a lot of people's heebies jeebied.reply
They create a *strong* magnetic field, any metal that comes too close essentially becomes a bullet and that's why they take so much trouble to make sure you don't have any.reply
An MRI scanner doesn't spin, but a CT scanner does.reply
For my physics degree there was a course where we recreated famous experiments, including the Nuclear Magnetic Resonance experiment (precursor to MRI). There were two parts to it and I barely wrapped my head around the first half of it. The second half lost me completely. I let my partner do that lab write-up.reply
The best part is the billowing pants with stripes to make them look even longer.reply
They were probably glued on and certainly not removed humanely. Scientific research is not necessarily kind to invertebrates.reply
I mean, have you seen the things that eat them? Invertibrates in nature are far more metal to each other than we are to them.reply
Do you know how it got in there?reply
I think it may have been the copper jacket from a bullet. I got hit with a ricochet quite a few years earlier. Edit: It would have been a very small fragment of the jacket, not the whole thing.reply
Actually, yes.reply
They were referring to r/thingsforantsreply
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the first one: [[link removed]reply
What kind of schooling does it take to become an ant stilt maker ??reply
It's quite common for many people's "earliest memories" to actually be constructions of stories heard and told repeatedly over the course of their lives.reply
It uses the effect called nuclear magnetic resonance, but a name without nuclear was coined to appease idi.. ehr normal people.reply
MRI is just the most popular use case of this technology. I would arguee that nuclear magnetic resonance is even more impactful in determining/verifying the MOLECULAR structure of new chemical substances. If you‘re doing a PhD in chemistry that involves any kind of organic synthesis, NMR is your go-to method for making sure you‘re experiments worked out the way you planned.reply
Yup. Energy in, Energy out. In a sense I am microwaving you.reply
They also did the opposite and trimmed some of the legs down to make "stumps." Those poor bastards ended up stopping way short of the nest and just wandered around wondering where their house went. Imagine being the grad student who spent six months gluing pig bristles to ants just to see if they would get lost. That is a hell of a thing to put on a resume.reply
Is this supposed to be in Gob Bluth’s voice or do I just have a parasocial relationship with that showreply
It's a zoolander reference. But I could definitely see Gob saying it.reply
I'm a Rad Tech from many, many years ago. Back in the late 1970s, I, along with many other Radiology professionals, was reading in the lounge at work during our lunch break (a major trauma center in the 1970s in Houston). As was common, we mostly read medical journals and such. Someone brought up what they had just read:"Did you see what they're doing with MAGNETS?!?" " Everyone kind of laughed and went, "Sure, *magnets*. Hahaha." And here we are.reply
I'd have been more concerned it was going to rip out of my body like alien due to the magnets.reply
RE: Memory hallucinations Here’s the part I didn’t tell. I didn’t know I was being shot at. I was riding my motorcycle in the lower yard when the jolt and pain hit my ankle. I immediately looked down and (swear I saw) the bb ricochet off. Familiar with bbs myself, I saw the copper sphere plain as day. Big pain, I crashed into the fence. It was then I found out he shot at me because I let his brother ride my motorcycle and not him. He fessed up when his dad saw the injury.reply
Sounds like a well adjusted human.reply
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In chemistry they teach it as NMR - Nuclear Magnetic Resonance. They dropped the "nuclear" so as not to scare the unwashed masses seeking medical care. What pissed me off is that they taught me about it for years without ever explaining how it works. I was in the working world before I was able to get an explanation of that. (The magnetic field aligns the nuclei with or against it. The radio waves are the right electromagnetic energy to flip them from one state to the other. It's really rather like how materials absorb and emit light. Not that complicated.)reply
Maybe the ants in question felt discriminated against because they were short. The scientists simply provided leg extensions in order to better match the ants’ identities with their physique.reply
And unfortunately cut off the legs of some of them too. Science is a complicated field.reply
What is this, an ant-stilt factory?!?reply
They need to be at least 3 times bigger.reply
I love how this is still a joke. I wonder how many people who use this reference don't know the origin, though.reply
What's wild to me... is how I could feel the energy shooting through my body.reply
Specific ant species do this, yes. Not all.reply
>We cut the bottom out of a plastic bowl to make a 30–50 cm ring that we can place around an ant to trap it. Then we pick it up with our fingers by a couple of legs; they try to bite, but they aren't strong enough to do anything to our skin. Then we apply little coloured dots of paint to the abdomen using a staple. If we cover the eyes, we need a dissection microscope and we secure the animal with dental wax while we apply the paint [Source]([link removed] I'm assuming they use the same method to glue the pig bristle to their legs.reply
I can only imagine the first few times they messed up because there was a miscommunication. "But I put the ants in acid, just like you told me!"reply
What is this, acid for ants?reply
ahhhh clever, if they were frozen then it'd be easy to put stilts on an ANT!reply
I remember once trying to put shoes on my toddler, and he kept crying “boots, boots!” My mother asked why I just didn’t put his boots on instead. I told her, “I’ll show you”. I started putting boots on, and he continued to cry, but now started shouting, “shoes, shoes!”reply
Should've tried stilts!reply
LMAO!.. sounds typical of my kids too hahareply
Instructions unclear, got a car full of ants on stilts now.reply
I want this jobreply
Genuinely, it's tough but well worth doing! I did my masters thesis on how leaf cutting ants position themselves to not unbalance on a gradient and the feeling when you discover something no one else on the planet knows, is pretty fucking unparalleled. I never published it due to low self esteem and self doubt but I wish I had. If you have a passion for science, you can do it. It's tough and competitive but the rewards are great (even if the pay isn't)reply
hopefully they do this to some ants that don't get stilts to make sure the temporary CO2 exposure isn't what causes the altered behaviorreply
That is why you have undergradsreply
Yep. Freeze 'em for 16-17 years and it works like a charm.reply
Ok this probably is such a stupid question but how do they count if they obviously haven’t learned how to count with language? Like how do they keep track if they aren’t counting in their head??reply
They use The Songreply
Hurrahreply
Teeny tiny fitbitsreply
MinuteEarth on youtube has a [video]([link removed] explaining that almost all animals can compare relative amounts of objects. Their brains can tell when something is 25% more than something else, but they cant tell if the amount is less than 25% more. For instance they can tell the difference between 3 and 4, but not 4 and 5. So instead of being like "100 steps, 200 steps, 300 steps", the ants would count more like "short distance, medium distance, long distance." The video references this study done on orb weaver spiders, so it's very possible it also applies to ants.reply
But 5 is 25% more than 4reply
I do not know but maybe some sort of inate instinct that this leg moved forward, the other legs all moved, and the original leg moved again, as some sort of pattern recognition?reply
Why not just move them forward or back?reply
When you have a chance to experiment with tiny ant stilts you don't pass itreply
They also had another group that they cut half of their legs off ✨no ethics✨reply
slice of cheese 🧀 workz better &is safer ... 🤣reply
Now, this really should be a randomised trial, but I don't see it passing ethics 🤣reply
The real problem is: which cheese?reply
According to my kids, must be cheddar, muenster, or Gouda. Everything else is unacceptable.reply
You’re doing the empirics, i see. That’s gouda you.reply
Blind ideally, you shouldn't be able to tell if your child is frozen or eating cheese.reply
Too what?reply
pretty sure they follow a phermone trail left by other ants, maybe if they were on stilts they couldnt detect the phermones? could be a touch thingreply
most ants follow pheromone trails but the ones that measure distance live in the desert with ever shifting sands that would blow any scent marked sand, thats why scientists did the tests in the first place because they knew these specific ants couldn't be using scent trails to tell other ants where the food is.reply
we don't know since we can't exactly read ants minds, its possible that its time based. eg. Ant 1 communicates to ant 2 that the food is x travel time away, if ant 2's legs are longer it will go further in that time duration missing the mark fun fact bees can also communicate distance and direction of food source, honey bees will wiggle their abdomens and crawl in specific circular motions to indicate where food isreply
That is a very fun fact! Does that mean we could possibly translate bee language? Give them a food source, see how they relay it? *Wiggle wiggle, clockwise circle, counter clockwise circle, wiggle* means x distance over there and to the left etc?reply
The dance is a combination of going in circles and going in a figure 8. If the dance is closer to a circle, it indicates the food source is nearby. If the dance is closer to a figure 8, it indicates the food source is far away. During part of the dance (particularly, when it's in the middle part of the figure 8), it waggles its little butt, so the dance is called a waggle dance. The orientation of the bee during this waggling portion relative to the hive indicates the direction of the food source relative to the sun. There's also more information encoded about the food source (such as its quality) by other things like how long the dance lasts, how often the bee reverses direction while dancing, and more. Though, it is debated how much information is contained in a bee waggle dance. Certain species basically ignore all the information that we think a waggle dance encodes, so the interpretation of the dance I claim above may not be exactly correct.reply
Omgreply
This is pretty incredible. Man. I wish I could understand bee language lmao.reply
If so it would be fairly easy to challenge the veracity of the study. Maybe the conclusion is when you freeze ant brains, they're not as good at navigationreply
How would putting teeny-tiny stilts on frozen ants help with your shoeless children?reply
Pics or it didn't happen!reply
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“Others had their legs clipped shorter, and some were allowed to keep their legs as was.” 😳reply
The Ant Odometer: Stepping on Stilts and Stumps is such a cute name for a study lolreply
What about that ants riding Sea-doos?reply
those sad fucks never found their way back home to their loved one(s)reply
This is the only way to get ants to do what you want. Source: I have a lot of ants.reply
New origin story for Mr freeze coming in hot (cold?)reply
Counting implies number theory, which they almost certainly do not have. It seems far more likely that they are storing the nerve impulse of the steps that took them there and "playing it back." No counting required!reply
Many people (at least in America) seem to think that “too” implies destination and not “additionally” rather than using the proper “to”. This is most curious.reply
I just almost died choking on my coffee but here have my poor peoples gold 🥇reply
What is this? Stilts for ants?!?reply
This was a new one for me and seems to be a desert ant. I was reading a book about ants recently some ants in the jungle memorize the canopy ceiling and can navigate back, some walk in an increasing concentric circle if they miss their location exactly, many use dead reckoning and just know. Ants are pretty amazing. Book was Tales From the Ant World by EO Wilsonreply
Do they count steps by base 10?reply
Same with bees, the other big category of fauna in Hymenoptera. When part of the hive leaves the main hive, it can be called absconding. After a chunk of the bees abscond, they will pick a place to, essentially wait in limbo for a good shelter. They will send out scouting bees who look for possible cavities within trees, cliffs etc. The scouting bee then walks or skips or flies around in short bursts of the cavity to sense the capacity of individuals it can hold. Then they report back to the colony along with the other scouts about their findings and the swarm picks the best option without seeing it for themselves. Another cool bee fact is that if one worker starts making combs at the top of a frame, and another starts at the bottom of the frame, eventually they will meet and the pattern will all come together as one with no obvious splits. It’s thought that they do this by festooning. Also queen bees “pipe”,”quack”, and “toot” to communicate verbally and those are the actual scientific names of the noises they make… toot.reply
I read this as ant SLITS and so all the comments praising the cuteness of ant slits had me scared for my lifereply
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Right?? Tiny ant stilts is both hilarious and slightly unhinged and congrats, you just got internet-famous for loving it.reply
Comment on stilts, it is higher !!!reply
The stilts are easy. It's the tiny clown noses that are hard.reply
At that point they just created a daddy long legsreply
Turns out, cold ants just walk more to warm up. Stilts not related to ant distance travelledreply
Imagine getting abducted by aliens 1000x your size, frozen, and then waking up with legs 3x longer and then those beings start taking notes with great interestreply
Just have to remember to put them in the freezer the night beforereply
As someone who has had one hell of a horrible year, has a 5 year old who often needs to wear shoes, *AND* also loves to make each and every single interaction 1000x more difficult than it needs to be, as her favorite past time, I absolutely needed this comment today. Thank you for the mental image, the giggles, and the ensuing disappointment due to it not actually working out the way I had planned, nor hoped it would. 0/10. Do not recommend.reply
Temporarily freezing small children sounds much more reasonable to parents of small childrenreply
Lmaoreply
That seems like a stretch, like, surely there are other reasons removing them from their line, tampering with their feet, and then replacing them in the line, made them go further from the food than their companions. Js idk anything about it, just feel like I’d more quickly assume it has to do w scent trails or a buddy system than them “counting” per se.reply
They also cut some ants legs short and those ants undershot the the food source. While the non modified ants made it to the food source on the dot. And when they removed the ants stilts the stopped early when returning homereply
This is a good explanation. I had the same question as the guy above, but I’m still not persuaded they are “counting” their steps individually. Their behavior could be from something different, like a length of time to walk, rather than a specific number of steps.reply
I said in another comment, I do not know but maybe some sort of inate instinct that this leg moved forward, the other legs all moved, and the original leg moved again, as some sort of pattern recognition?reply
Nothing is too small for humans to find a way to torture it. That’s sad.. holy cow.reply
...how high can they count thoughreply
I don't know the exact answer, but researchers tested putting food in one particular slot in a long row of slots, to see if ants could communicate the food's position to other ants. They found that ants can successfully communicate which "number" of slot it's in, and it takes them longer to communicate larger numbers. These researchers tested it with 40 slots, so I suppose ants can communicate numbers at least that high, and do simple additions and subtractions on them. [[link removed] (section 6.3.1)reply
I'm going to need photos of this cuteness.reply
Do you want ants with stilts? Because that's how you get ants with stilts.reply
Thanks, ants. Thants.reply
I am not even kidding when I say i NEED to see a pic of 🐜 stilts. 😂reply
Please tell me they have video of thisreply
Wait till you hear about ants doing arithmetic: [[link removed] (section 6.3.2, near the end)reply
I always wonder how they differentiated between counting steps and counting time. The stilts would lead to them overshooting either wayreply
What are these? Stilts for ANTS?!reply
What cheese did they offer? Stilt-on?reply
I always imagine them confidently marching… then suddenly realizing they’ve walked too far because someone gave them little shoes.reply
And to believe some newspapers here took it as evidence of scientists wasting money, probably while knowing themselves it was damn cool.reply
Bees do something similar! Except they're counting verticle landmarks, rather than steps. IIRC, there was a paper where bees were convinced to fly down a tube and would get confused half way down, if the researchers cahnged the number of verticle lines on the inside of the tube.reply
“What are these??? Stilts for ants!?!?” - “yes”reply
And shortened them too.reply
This was a surprisingly delightful read. Thank you.reply
Excuse me, but wtf?reply
I think it introduces alpha galactose into your bloodstream and causes your body to think it's a foreign invader, turning it into an allergenreply
Thanks, I hate it.reply
Fun fact: it isn’t an “allergy,” per se, but what’s in the tick’s saliva causes the body to read meat as whatever’s in their saliva I forget the compound or chemicalreply
How is allergy defined such that it isn't an allergy?reply
Maybe not an anaphylactic or histamine reaction but a different systemic response?reply
They also carry Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever - also would not recommend.reply
Yes. I own a restaurant and it is epidemic here. We prepare food for people with that allergy daily. It is a matter of life and death as the reaction is anaphylactic shock. Scary stuff.reply
Yikes! Where is it an epidemic?reply
Smith Mountain Lake VA. Tremendous amount of deer around here and a very large part of the population have been infected.reply
Exactly! Increasingly being seen as a cause of nocturnal anaphylaxis because the timing ~4-6 hours after dinner.reply
Lonestar!reply
It's so different for everyone, it's crazy. Not enough is known about it. My husband has it and can eat poultry, seafood, and dairy just fine but if he accidently has some red meat he has gastric distress and his tongue swells up. My dad also has it and can't eat dairy at all and gets hives if he does. Several people I know that have it do seem to go into remission after a couple of years though.reply
Wait. DAIRY!?! Deep breaths while mentally glancing around the heavily wooded property.reply
My friend from work has this. Most vaccines have porcine or bovine components, and she’s sensitive enough they have to keep a crash cart on hand if she absolutely needs a vaccine. Hence the rest of us getting vaccinated so she wouldn’t have to take the rush. Hint hint We live in MN so her folks cannot wrap their heads around the idea that she is allergic to butter and dairy. It’s like an entirely impossible concept for them to processreply
It happened to me. I can't eat red meats now, or my whole body will itch, blister and I'll get a strong fever. It even made me hallucinate a bit. Crazy shit. It's like nature vaccinated itself against me eating it's animals.reply
And my TWO (unrelated) best friends suffer from Alpha Gal. Wear your tick repellant!!! I treat my "field clothes" with permethrin. (Let it dry before wearing them.) If you don't, then you may have to get used to eating fish and poultry.reply
Damn, i didnt know that. My mom is intolerant to carageenan, so i have to be careful about anything i give her that has dairy. I should ask her if she knows about the chicken and turkey thing.reply
I am also intolerant to it. It’s in a lot of things that you would never guess. I have to read ingredients on everything. Deli meats, chocolate caramels, snack cakes, some flavored gelatin… it’s infuriating.reply
Yeah thats what she says! I cannot make any food for her unless its fresh produce or she approves the ingredients because its in so many things! Its genuinely mind boggling how many foods have seaweed juice in them. And enough people are sensitive to it, youd think theyd need to list it as an allergen like peanuts, but they dont.reply
complicated disagree. I'd call them alga. Algae is a polyphyletic group, which means the name isn't based solely on ancestry and what's related genetically. But I believe most seaweeds are the kind of algae called charophytes which are most closely related to plants. Protists are unicellular, not multicellular. Macroalgae wouldn't be protista by modern classification unless I am very confused.reply
Yeah seems Protists have been broken up into a lot of smaller groups, which makes sense. Legit forgot this because it happened after I went to school whoops. There's definitely some multicellular living things that were defined as protists though! They're so weird, I love them even if they're not one big group any morereply
Apparently if you have Alpha Gal you could in theory eat people and can eat other non-mammalian meat like frog, gator, etc.reply
I mean, you don’t need Alpha Gal to do any of these…reply
Anything can be eaten. Some things only once.reply
Yes, people with Alpha Gal can eat poultry and fish.reply
Ahem. Aren’t they STEER testicles?reply
BEEZ NUTS!reply
Did you just assume my cow’s gender?reply
It can go into remission. I don’t know if it always does or not. One person I know who had it, suffered through it, and it went away. The other person I know who has it went to an acupuncturist and hers is in remission now. Been almost nine months I’d say.reply
Yeah, the only person who I know that has it has had it for 30 years. Even cross-contamination could trigger her with severe GI distress and often vomiting. White meat was fine, and she would occasionally sneak in a bite of bacon because she missed it. About 2 years ago it started to get a little better, and she can tolerate a bite of steak, pork, or venison if she doesn’t overdo it, whereas a decade ago she’d be sick as hell.reply
I can promise you it wasn't because of the acupuncture.reply
Boyfriends dad convinced his mom ( though they're divorced ) to try to treat her diabetes with Eastern Medicine. So instead of doctors and preventative care, she would go to the chiropractor and get accupunture. She's in her mid 50's but looks 90 years old. They're just now actually starting to treat her diabetes again and it's a crapshoot if she'll live another ten years. We dont know why she listened to her ex husband, they hated each other for a very long time and divorced when my boyfriend was in middle school.reply
Nah, in this case it can be very effective. The (singular) study on the treatment claims 96% effectiveness, the doctors who do it here (rural central VA is ground zero for AGS) claim ~88% effectiveness, and it’s worked on everyone I know personally (10-15 people?) who did the protocol.reply
I have a friend with it who has been having some success with the acupuncture treatment. He can eat small amounts of red meat now.reply
There is a spider, Brazilian wandering spider (Phoneutria), that will give you a painful persistent erection that lasts for hours. AND if you don't go to the ER and have it drained, the blood can pool and coagulate leading to tissue death requiring amputation.reply
One of my favorite [Radiolab episodes "Alpha Gal"]([link removed] interviews someone who has gone through this. And [the follow up "Return of Alpha Gal"]([link removed] as more cases have been documented.reply
It’s not all meat. Just red meatreply
Anything with hooves. I can’t eat pork, beef, venison, etc. Which is honestly no great loss as I’ve always been more of a fish-and-fowl person.reply
I’d be a mess! Cows are my favorite animal to eatreply
Fun fact, the Western Fence Lizard common along California and other Southwestern states, has an antibody that neutralizes the bacteria that causes Lyme Disease. When ticks bite this lizard, they acquire this antibody that then kills the bacteria which ends the ability to spread Lyme Disease. Currently ticks in California where the Western Fence Lizard exists have a less than 2% incidence rate of carrying Lyme Disease.reply
*and it's spreading North*reply
They're weirdos like the fungi? Just making things up as they go, huh?reply
It’s at least as old as 2023reply
My neighbor was bit while camping… ate a burger 3 months later.. got violently sick and passed away. He was pilot for United.. in great shape (athlete). Terriblereply
I'd never heard about protists before today, amazingreply
But...but *I'm* meat... D:reply
People generally don't eat long pig.reply
Mine didn't go away, and it's so much worse than just what you can eat. It makes surgery very complex. It changes what sutures can be used, what blood products it's safe to get if you lose too much of your own, can't get a stent or a heart valve. I also can't take certain chemo if I ever get cancer. Hell, I can't even take a medicine in a gel cap.reply
During beer brewing they often use Irish Moss or carrageenan to help settle proteins and solids out of the beer. Would that ever have an affect on you, or are the doses way too low to matter?reply
Reclassifying things that have not been considered plants due to their weirdness for years as plants is so dumb. Totally forgot the protist kingdom was split up, yeah, that happened after I was out of school, but algae just aren't plants. Before replying I just looked it up and you kind of have it backwards? Archaeplastida is literally "plants plus green algae." They call it something else to include the not-plant; that's kind of hilarious. Anyways yeah there's more new buckets with new names but it doesn't change how WEIRD and varied seaweeds and algae arereply
> Archaeplastida is literally "plants plus green algae." They call it something else to include the not-plant; that's kind of hilarious. Archaeplastida is also red algae, as well as glaucophytes. The funny thing is that "plants" aren't even a direct subtaxon of Archaeplastida, but are instead classed as a special type of green algae, specifically of Streptophyta. It goes something like Archaeplastida -> Chloroplastida -> Charophyta -> Streptophyta -> Plantae, where Plantae is most of what would classically be considered "plants". But *most* Charophyta are various types of green algae, wheras not even all green algae are Charophyta. At least in this systematization, you avoid some of the questions you otherwise have, such as whether Zygnematophyceae are algae (which they really look like) or plants (which genetically and from the perspective of molecular biology, they very much are). tl;dr: all green things are weird and varied and hard to categorizereply
It’s different for every person, and can also vary for a single person. They may eat steak once and get hives, but the next time they eat it they go into anaphylactic shock. Unfortunately we’re seeing a huge increase in cases.reply
I got extremely lucky with my Alpha Gal diagnosis, in that my symptoms are extremely mild by comparison to a lot of people's. I genuinely didn't notice anything was wrong for nearly 7 months and ended up getting tested for food borne allergies for a different reason (thought I had a chicken allergy from food poisoning involving very different chicken dishes). Doc gave me the red meat allergy test "just in case" and guess what. (eta-and it turned out it was just badly prepared chicken both times rip) We spent a half hour going over any weird symptoms I'd noticed over the last year when eating red meat. Turns out that having diarrhea the same day as red meat consumption and a tiny rash that comes and goes are legit symptom sets for it. Some people have very extreme reactions and can go into shock from the tiniest exposure. I just get an upset stomach sometimes and a random spot of skin *might* break out for a couple days if I eat red meat. That's it-I don't even have a reaction to gelatin related stuff. I'm very grateful, and super lucky.reply
There's only one man who would dare give me the raspberry... Lone Star!reply
What type of reaction do you get when you eat red meat? I’ve had Lymes and I feel like trash when I eat red meat. I do not get itchy or nauseous, but I get extremely bloated and my body doesn’t digest it well. Not sure if it’s related to lymes or not.reply
If you had Lyme, you may have (or had) alpha gal too (since they are tick born). The people who I know that have it, some have GI issues 4-6 hours after ingesting mammal products, others experience rashes. I know one person who can eat maybe 3 oz of steak a week and be ok, but when he first got it 6 years ago, he couldn’t even smell beef/lamb/deer/pork cooking without getting a rashreply
Do you ever find you had a sensitivity to a particular kind of red meat over the others? I know someone with alpha gal who has only ever reacted to beef, never pork. I know everyone experiences it differently and at different levels. Some folks are so sensitive they can’t even do dairy!reply
Not sure if this is an open-ended question, but I'm similar. Major crisis reaction for beef, one step down for lamb and goat. I do eat pork scarcely; it's a gauging thing, but I try not to do it often and take allergy meds. The 'pinker' it is, the worse I react. I've not had prosciutto in years, bc it gives me a beef-level allergic reaction, but I sneak in ribs, or a Chinese pork from time to time. Not back-to-back, gotta let the IgE settle.reply
My sister has had it for a couple of years. She can't eat meat from 4 legged animals, but chicken and turkey are okay. It's starting to fade, but slowly.reply
I developed a sudden severe meat intolerance after an outdoor weekend. My drs assume it was a lone star tick bite.reply
Last year, or maybe earlier this year, a teenager in New Jersey became the first reported death related to Alpha Gal Syndrome.reply
I don’t even eat red meat, which I think is the kind this makes you allergic to, and I would be annoyed to get that. I mean I want the options.reply
A woman I'm friends with got bit and contracted Alpha Gal. It's not just red meat either. It's a whole host of other animal products that she can't eat.reply
My mom has this! It’s been YEARS and she’s still so allergic!reply
How about tick bite paralysis.reply
Had? And now you don't?reply
Only red meat. I have a friend I just asked about it who got it ten plus years ago. He still will go into anaphylaxis if he eats a steakreply
I'm not a believer in most holistic medicine, but a coworker said his good friend had it. He went in for some acupuncture and it was cured immediately. Again, not that I believe in pseudoscience, but if I was suddenly allergic to meat and dairy, I think I'd at least have to give it a try.reply
My dad has it and it comes and goes. If he eats a lot of red meat in a given period of time it goes away but if he stops and only eats chicken for a while it'll come back. Hes had it for ~7 years and it comes and goesreply
Hate that its been consumed by the conspiracy crowdreply
Seriously its crazy. See people in YouTube comments saying its a "big shadow government forcing us to stop eating meat"reply
Don't mention the Instagram comments of these types of posts. Also, them saying "BLAME BILL GATES" and "KILL BILL" Probably propaganda and misinformation by meat industry to discredit cultivated meat.reply
Bleach, invermectin, and now ticks? Damn these guys will eat anything Joe Rogan tells them toreply
Never been a better time to be a vegan hikerreply
Took me about a year to realize that the all over body hives and swollen hands I randomly got were happening every time I ate beef or pork.reply
Yep. I live in rural Virginia and nearly everyone I know has had it at least once, including me. It got so bad the American Legion had to start offering alpha-gal-safe meals to its members.reply
My SIL has this. Not fun.reply
So what I am hearing you say is that ants have brains and I will feel bad now when I step on or spray them.reply
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with humans. What aliens glued stilts to the bottom of a humans feet for some bullshit reasonsreply
My dad has this! It is very unheard of, especially in the US, and everyone tries to feed him beef. It has almost killed him a few times when we told people no meat and they slip beef in the chilli thinking it's finereply
Sort of makes sense if all your buddies are the same size "Hey Frank, the popsicle on the sidewalk is 20,244 steps that way..." lolreply
Just red meat. You can still eat poultry and fish!reply
Specifically mammalian meat. You can still eat fowl.reply
Paul? That you?reply
Where do these live? Just so I never go there.reply
And it SUCKSSSSSSS I ain’t had a steak or chop in yearsreply
There's also a conspiracy that the us is releasing them on farmers so they can take their land.reply
I smell PETA fuckery.reply
I have this!reply
That story is my favorite way to explain the Scientific Method.reply
As an autistic with ARFID this terrifies me, I'd starve to death...reply
Not a mini, but my dachshund faced two German Shepherds who jumped a fence to attack us during a walk. I had his puppy son in my arms, and I was just a scrawny kid. The dog made it out with one non-treatening puncture to the rear and a scratch on the neck (thankfully, it had a nice, fat leather collar).reply
The instinct to protect his puppy was stronger than his fear. Good boi!reply
I’m more surprised that Grizzlies make you pay to camp in Alaska now. Who put them in ch… a position of authorityreply
That's why cheetahs are so easy to tame, they will not attack, especially something as large as a human, unless they have to, a small sprain could lead to death by starvation when you've got a glass cannon build. Also why in zoos, they're given a labrador as a companion. Flighty cheetah might panic and bolt itself into an injury when startled, but goofy labrador retriever fears nothing, and loves strangers, and the cat takes its cues from them.reply
Well of course, how else are they going to swipe picnic baskets?reply
* pic-a-nic baskets!reply
“Pickernic baskets, surely??”reply
It’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of fight in the dog.reply
I have a 15lb mutt. Not afraid of big dogs, chases deer. Is afraid of my little toothless cat.reply
"Is afraid of my little toothless cat." Well game recognises game!reply
My sister had a chihuahua german shepard growing up. Around people it was all "I'm a shaky little dog, here's my belly, please don't hurt me" Around anything else she was a little rage goblin.reply
The dog is all “Y’all got my back right? LET’S DO THIS!!” meanwhile humans are running the other way..reply
> it was like a big furry truck Yeah, but with massive claws and a powerful need to eat.reply
Cocaine Bear 2reply
Bearnadoreply
Today I wake up and choose violence.reply
It's not only that it is big, it is not only that that it is fast. Something that big shouldn't be that fast.reply
The technical term for this in dog breeding is 'game.' Terriers tend to have high gameness. [link removed] It's also why people who claim 'putbulls aren't violent, it's just bad owners' are full of shit. You can absolutely breed for aggression and game, and pitbulls were, in fact, bred for that, amoung other breeds. If you claim you can't breed for aggression, then you can't claim that GSDs are bred for smarts and loyalty, or, you know, protectiveness and herding. Both of which are aspects of 'game.'reply
To me, bad ownership in this case is the owners not considering the gameness of the breed they own. Pitbull owners should be fully aware of the prey drive and handle their pet accordingly.reply
I think you may be referring to a horrific story from Russia I read years ago. A father and his adult daughter were attacked by bears in a remote area. The father was killed almost immediately, while the daughter managed to call her mother during the attack. According to reports, she was literally describing how the bears were eating her alive at one point saying they had already torn apart her legs. It’s one of the most disturbing animal attack stories I’ve ever heard. Source :[link removed]reply
I lived in the Yukon Territory (geographically next to Alaska)…. There’s a whole breed of family dog called bear dogs, they’re mostly black, usually with a touch of white, they look a bit like a collie. These dogs are fiercely protective of their people around bears, and will actually chase big game down. They’re a nice extra bit of safety while hiking, that’s for sure!reply
I figured the Grizz was charging cuz their phone battery was lowreply
I've heard they even shit in the woods.reply
Popes?reply
Yeah, how else would the bear be Catholic?reply
Year ago I was walking my 100 lbs lab around the block. A little dust mop shaped dog go out the front door of one of the houses we past… and that dog ran UNDER my dog and tried to bite my dog’s belly. My just looked at it with the look of ‘what the fk?’reply
"If not friend, why friend shaped?" – your lab, probablyreply
Yup!reply
I'm kind of surprised that the donkey didn't kill him. They're kind of notorious for that.reply
Literally me too. I would always freak out and try to get him to chase me instead but that mf wanted to fight the damn donkey and he was fast as hell. Died of old age.reply
It’s all the hugs, they’re very popular with hippies.reply
Flower?reply
That proper made me laugh. Thanks for that.reply
It's one of my two favorites. The other is: Yo momma so ugly she turned Medusa to stone.reply
Back in school our janitor had this tiny part Chihuahua mutt who followed her everywhere. It was a funny sight as she was tall and the dog was so small it was all legs trying to keep up, like a cartoon. The dog had weird rules you had to follow if you didn't want to anger him. Certain clothes and accessories would piss him off, as did some songs, the wrong snacks, and I swear some discussion topics. I once got subjected to his wrath for sitting at the wrong spot at the window sill we hung out at during recess. It came jogging at me, growling with it's tiny voice, jumped up, grabbed my big toe, and hung on for at least five minutes, growling and staring at me until the janitor walked past and called him away. He'd give me the stink eye for a few days afterwards until he found another infraction.reply
The school janitor was just allowed to have a non-service dog follow her around at work? Lmaoreply
My wife tells me of her swamp dog growing up. Lived in the forest/swamp, Fended for himself. Was their family dog though. He could tank snake bites all day long. And he would just to protect the property. Some dogs just have that extra dog in them. Meaningwhile as a kid I had a greyhound who slept his whole life post racing and would wake to eat, and to get zoomies 5 minutes a day.reply
Hold up, hold up. Your wife lived in a forest/swamp growing up?reply
First of all, she is not an Ogre. She is a sophisticated woman. She does not have layers like an onion. She has layers of personality If she’s an Ogre, then why is her best friend a talking donkey? Wait... actually, don't answer that. Just because she enjoys the natural humidity of a marshland environment and occasionally yells 'Get out of my swamp!' does not make her some swamp monster.reply
What kind of dog was that??reply
A good dog, obviouslyreply
I know exactly what you mean, weirdly. A Tesla almost hit me at a crosswalk a couple of months ago before slamming on the brakes, and somehow my brain just… computed its weight and speed fast enough for me to understand the clear reality that I was about to be hit by several thousand pounds of solid metal. I’ve never in my life been able to appreciate the density of a vehicle like that before, but now I think about it all the time. I can only imagine seeing a bear running at you would be similar. Suddenly it’s not just a concept, it’s a very real mass heading mach-fuck at your person.reply
Do you think your friend's dog was protecting you and your friend, or would have challenged a charging bear anyway?reply
Dog was absolutely in "protec" mode.reply
Dogs seem to be surprisingly effective in chasing off bears.reply
One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into in my pajamas I'll never know. ——— Groucho Marxreply
Karelian Bear Dogs and Akitas will both defend against bears, it's a breed trait for bothreply
shit, ive seen tons of videos of house cats charging and attacking all types of bears, and the cats go straight for the face and eyes with flying claws, the bears GTFO quick. Bears dont mess with cats.reply
dogs literally don't seem to recognize size as a factor when they're assessing danger. That's why you can have teacup yorkies barking at a doberman like it's gonna do something about it.reply
My sister and her husband live on a piece of land (around 15 acres at the time), her husband's father and step mother also lived on the property but a different house. His father was around 70 at this time and had Parkinson's. But he was also one of those hard ass country folk who would (and did) work until he died. My sister had this stray dog turn up and decided that he would just live there. Her father-in-law *hated* that dog and would shoot it with a bb gun if it got to close to his house. This day he was out helping a cow give birth, when for whatever reason the cow turned on him. 70, suffers from parkinson's and being attacked by a pissed off 1400 lb cow. Fortunately for him, that dog was hanging out with him and defended him from the cow. Instead of dying, he just had some broken ribs and a punctured lung. He never shot at the dog again lol.reply
Our Pomeranian once treed a black bear. She was so proud of herself. She absolutely would have faced down a charging grizzly.reply
Only dog ever to love the mailman 📫reply
Dog's the MVP holy crapreply
I hate to tell ya, but it's good for you to know. There's a good chance the dog was the cause of the aggression in the first place. Dogs and bears aren't a good mix, and often put you at higher risk.reply
bear safety is important, its recommended to make noise, like attaching small bells to your pack in bear country, and to strong pepper spray meant for bear repellent, not the keychain one. It's also good to learn to identify bear species by their droppings. For example, black bear scat will have little bits of twigs, bark, and undigested plant matter, while grizzly droppings will contain small bells and smell strongly of hot peppers.reply
What a story! And what a username [account]reply
Why else would they be shitting in the woods? I mean we know they have toiletpaper.reply
I was always taught thay grizzly bears "fake charge" so you shouldn't run. But black bears charge for keeps and youre fuckedreply
I thought it was the other way around?reply
It very well could bereply
Eats, shoots and leaves. I love syntactical ambiguity.reply
Wrong type of bear. :)reply
Reading this just made my entire dayreply
Bet that rotty was built a bit different after that encounter lmao.reply
I have a rat terrier who did the same thing to a husky. Dang thing was 8x his size. He did not DGAF. In his normal life, he was afraid of just about anything. But that day? he hated huskys.reply
Checks out! Dachshunds were bred to hunt badgers, which are mean little things, underground. Theyre cute but very tough little guys!reply
HAHAHAHA fuckreply
I was allergic to beef for 2 years because of a tick!reply
This is why you need terriers for protection from things like bears. The bear can destroy any breed of dog... so why not pick the breed that will at least charge into battle with no fear?reply
While living in Transylvania with my ex I saw a Romanian carpathian shepherd dog kill a bear which was wandering towards our camp. The locals had told me these dogs were the most dangerous things in the mountains but I scoffed when they said they kill bears, if I hadn't seen it I never would have believed it but it absolutely savaged this bear then wandered off.reply
AND they have friends...reply
My cairn terrier mix wouldn't even hesitate to attack that bear's ankles.reply
Dude, humans in sleeping bags are basically human burritos to bears. Of course they go camping.reply
Got that dog in himreply
When I was a kid I had one defend me at night from a bobcat. No fight happened because the brave little fella passed the intimidation check. Haunts me to this day still but I'm thankful for the little guy being willing to take on a fight he would have lost near instantly.reply
Lol!! I was absolutely picturing a terrier when I read this story. Those little shits know no fearreply
How much did the grizzly charge? Was it in dollars, rubles or euros? I’m not sure what currency bears use, but make sure it was a legitimate charge, otherwise I’d speak to forest management or somethingreply
I work with a guy that got this while hunting. Not a happy guyreply
Not all meat. Only mammal. And technically the sugar molecules alpha galactose in mammal. Source: I have alpha gal allergy.reply
That reaction is the only allergic reaction seen that is not to a protein. It is an acquired allergic reaction to a carbohydrate called alpha galactose. Every non primate animal produces alpha galactose* and have it in their meat. Those of us lucky enough to have this condition can react to that sugar with reactions ranging from lethargy to anaphylaxis**. Most people, if they can avoid exposure will lose the sensitivity in 1 to 5 years. Another exposure can cause a relapse. * there are pigs which have been bred for transplants that produce no alpha galactose. ** Technically all of the reactions are anaphylactic in nature but the severity can vary.reply
I hope to never meat this tickreply
What kind of ultra badass doggo counter chagred a friggin Grizzly and won!? Best doggo award contender right there!reply
what breed of honey badger, I mean dog?reply
She was a 150lb Malamute. Basically a giant wolf dog that seemed to operate purely on instinct. She was a hell of a snuggler too though.reply
Malamute is HUGE. I wonder how much she eats everyday. Good dog saving everyone from the grizzly.reply
All I can think about is how much she poops every day. Oof. But she truly is a very good girl and if a champion snuggler? Sign me up, please. :)reply
Bro your friends dog fuckin rulesreply
I think it's only red meat. So you'd still be ok with poultry, eggs, fish. But beef, pork, and lamb would be right out.reply
What about white meats? Are those okay to eat?reply
Non-mammals are not affected so you can still eat poultry, fish, and eggs.reply
Makes you wonder if the venom has something interesting in mind for women too.reply
I knew a guy who insisted he could jump out of a tree with a knife and take down a black bear. I (being a very sarcastic 15yo) offered immediately to go find a bear. But i wouldn't do that to a bear.reply
Bears have loose skin that they can twist around in because other bears are armed with mouth knives. I think probably with an ambush you could stab the bear once and then it might be goodnightreply
Yeah i wouldn't fuck with even a black bear. I am still willing to let that imbecile test his theory, though. Which wasn't an ambush situation. My parent was trying to explain wilderness safety to my younger siblings when he popped off with this "tactic".reply
I walked into a black bear once. It was at night while camping and I came around a car and the bear was on all four paws. My knees hit his rump and I started to fall but I put my hands out on his back. I remember it being super thick, then jumping straight back & running towards the campfire. The bear took off like a shot into the woods. I'm a big guy who worked out at the time, and I screamed like a little girl.reply
Best place I've found to hide from a bear is in my house. They haven't found me yetreply
I have a small collection of Bear protection stones, they keep bears away from me, obviously I only need one so I have some spares I could maybe sellreply
Wear little bells on your clothing to scare off any nearby bears before you get close. To be extra careful, you should also be able to identify feces of different bears. Black bear feces contain lots of berries. Brown bear feces contain lots of bells. Polar bear feces are the last thing you see.reply
I can’t tell if this is people advice to keep people alive. Or bear advice to keep bears fed. OP, are you secretly a bear? Do human women flock to you constantly whilst avoiding human men???reply
>OP, are you secretly a bear? How dare you. ~~Mr. Bearington~~ [account] is a respected patron of the arts, medicine, and a known connoisseur of gourmet cooking. [link removed]reply
> "Oh, my god! That's a bear! That's a giant bear!" Silence would roll through the ballroom. "Don't any of you see it!? That is a giant bear in a suit!" This has got to be the most lore filled thread I’ve ever been in. Im laughing my ass off a day later at new tidbits.reply
It's face is where the sharp things are.reply
I've read a story by a guy that barely survived a bear attack He tried kicking the bear. Bear tanked the first few hits and then managed to grab him by the leg and just started... eating it He says the pain was unbearable but all he could do was scream and try to kick Well eventually bear basically decided it's too much work and left after eating half his calf I think a lot of people don't know that most wild animals just prefer to eat something that won't hurt you. Any scratch can be fatal in the wild But also they don't know that at the same time most of them don't bother killing you before eatingreply
My brother, they have sharp things at all four corners [[link removed]reply
This reminds me of my all-time favourite Reddit posts ever: [part 1]([link removed] and [part 2]([link removed]reply
Its important to remember that a raccoon, if it decides to, can absolutely fuck you up too. I mean you'll probably win, but it will not be fun. I worked at a nature center with a small wildlife exhibit including bears, wolves, cougars, and bobcats but the scariest animal was by far the raccoon. One time she pulled my pants down and that was her in a good mood.reply
A raccoon is throwable. A throwable animal should not be a threat to a human. Example: [link removed] (WARNING: Animals getting hurt)reply
I laughed at this 😂 and imagined shoving someonereply
It’s an old joke. If being chased by a bear you only have to be faster than the slowest person in your group.reply
I might be slower, but maybe not everyone in my group thinks discretion is the better part of valor. So all I have to do is pause and say, "Dude, I think that bear just said something disrespectful about your mother!"reply
Ironically if the slow person stands still and the fast person runs away then the bear would be more likely to attack the fast personreply
Bears like fast food???reply
You laugh, but that's actually a survival method for polar bears we were taught in elementary school, Canada Black fight back, Brown lay down, White good night. We were told stay with a group and if a polar bear comes, to run. Just run. Don't look back.reply
I grew up in rural western Canada. We'd go out and play in the woods all day as kids, my folks' only rule was to bring a knife and the dog. Not for self defence or anything, that'd be useless. The idea was the cripple the dog so we would have enough time to get away. Thankfully we never had to resort to that, he was a great dog.reply
Do you wanna go hiking? 😝reply
Settle down, Shanereply
A big Kodiak, standing upright on 2 legs can reach up to 11 feet in height, I believe. Now add proportionate musculature and nails that RuPaul would be green about... They big. Plus the big bitey end...reply
It's healthy to re-examine your bear beliefs from time to time, so you've got that going for you.reply
Asserting [my first amendment right to bear beliefs]([link removed]reply
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Amazing this got removed already but I'm upvoting anyway because whatever you said made the guy edit his comment lolreply
I think reddit mistook my comment to be about humans but it was about bears and the quick associations. Perhaps I should have used more words lol. This is what I wrote (about bear types, y'all) Black, fight back Brown, lay down White, goodnightreply
I get the implication that someone thought it was racist/talking about people despite containing the line "white ones just eat you."reply
And they steal picnic baskets in Yellowstone!reply
I looked this up after a certain bear argument and yeah, Black Bears usually avoid people but they *will* hunt people. Like if you're attacked by a black bear it's probably because you did something wrong, but they're also willing to literally hunt people if they're hungry.reply
I went to a lecture a couple years ago for someone who had done the stats on something like a hundred years of black bear encounters. Only about 10% were black bears in predatory mode, most of the rest were more in the dumbass category.reply
Black bears do NOT hunt people. Black bears are opportunistic omnovores, meat is a surprisingly small part of their diet, and is almost always scavanged. The only species that *actively* hunts humans is the polar bear.reply
A common misconception! Polar Bears are absolutely predators, but when it comes to people, there is only one of us that is in real danger. Seal must always be on the lookout....reply
Dude, polar bears will gladly fuck up a person, and will display active stalking behaviour towards humans.reply
> People in general do not understand what bears are capable of. There’s a reason why the Proto-Indo-European word for “bear” >!*h₂ŕ̥tḱos* “wrecker”!< was challenging to reconstruct, and has a lot fewer descendants in living Indo-European languages than would be expected. *Wreck* and *Arctic* are two of them in English. People were afraid to say the name of the animal, lest it show it. So the word was partially lost.reply
They couldn't bear to speak of it.reply
They were so scared/respectful, they called it things like "honey-eater" or "the brown one" instead of its name.reply
It’s fucking big. Like imagine a big fucking bear. Then double or triple that. It’s still probably bigger.reply
See, I know all that, but the last black bear I saw did NOT give a fuck about all the people banging shit to scare it off. Just stood there till it got bored. Edit: I could be exaggerating, but it was easily the same size as a Ford Fiestareply
i grew up with a lot of black bears around and i feel like they’re the very definition of “don’t start nothin’ and there won’t be nothin’.” they don’t usually need to be scared off, i’ve always just waited for them to go away UNLESS it’s a mama with cubs, then i will respectfully concede the space to that single mom who works too hard and see myself out. the only time i’ve ever tried to actively “scare” them away is when they’re on the road by stopping my car and honking my horn until they get a safe distance away, but that’s just so they don’t get hit by a car editing though to add an obligatory - PEOPLE PLEASE DO NOT FEED WILD ANIMALS! you might think you’re being helpful or having a cute moment, but you’re actually creating a lot of potential for a bad outcome for the animal & the humans in the area in several different ways. respect nature, folks!reply
As for your last note. There was some dumbass visiting where I live that decided to hand feed a bear some candy and got mulled when he ran out of candy. The game wardens were pissed when they found out about the video evidence after the fact, he told them that the bear just attacked him.reply
i hate that so much. i grew up in an area with a lot of tourists and, one summer, a family on vacation filmed a “cute” video of a black bear at a picnic table with them and they were giving it food. it went viral-ish (regionally) so the state fined them to make an example out of them and there were people who were mad about a family being “punished for a cute video” 🙃reply
A fed bear is a dead bearreply
That might be where your mind went... but mine went straight to bear cavalry.reply
I've seen a video of one climbing up a tree faster than I can run on flat ground. They're crazy powerful.reply
And polar bears are biggerreply
Years ago I remember googling that big ass hand cannon from Resident Evil 4 and apparently it's based on a 50 caliber Smith & Wesson handgun designed partly for dropping bears. The thing is huge! Also, if it's not a handgun, idk, I'm Britishreply
according to encounter reports, 9mm works well enough, but you'll need spare pantsreply
Allegedly it's better to try to outrun them downhill instead of up, because they're more likely to tumble over that way. Something about the angle of their claws and how their legs are built, I think.reply
You need to take a gun, then shoot your friend in the knee.reply
Bears get quite large, I grew up around bears and my family hunts so I've seen a couple. I actually got chased by a black bear while riding my bike at a campground when I was 8, thankful it was downhill so it was easy to go fast and bears struggle to run downhill, they trip over themselves a little. the easy way to remember is: Black fight back Brown lay down White good night. Black bears if attacking are generally doing so as a predator, they are the smallest of the bears, can climb trees(sorta) but can be intimidated, get big, get loud and slowly increase the distance between without turning your back to it. If it closes the gap on you it's intent is to eat you, go for the weak areas like eyes that can cause pain and fight back as hard as you can. Grizzlies (generally brown bears but they have a tell of a big hump on their back) they generally don't attack people unprovoked and almost all grizzly attacks are defensive, laying down, playing dead and acting as little like a threat as possible is the recommended advice, now I'm not sure how well I'd be able to follow that if I turn the corner on a trail and see a grizzly infront of me. As for white, google the size, no one expects how big polar bears actually are. If you encounter a polar bear and it wants to eat you, it's going to. Your decisions likely don't matter the polar bear will decide your fate. The number one thing you don't want to do is turn your back and run unless you have somewhere extremely close (and by close I mean the other side of the road is your vehicle close) if you turn and run it shows weakness and they will attack almost immediately and they are way faster than you think. If you venture into bear country there is a large number of things you can do to prevent direct encounters. It's not completely avoidable but if you practice proper bear safety you are unlikely to end up in a dangerous situation. (Chance encounters of just wrong place wrong time can still occur like with any animal of course).reply
"If it's brown, lay down. If it's black, fight back. If it's white, say good night."reply
Check out this video of a grizzly going after a black bear. She glides over pretty rough terrain like it’s nothing [link removed]reply
Gorillas also almost exclusively false charge each other. They are incredibly strong but all bark and no bitereply
Fox presents "fast animals,slow children" ah I got honey all over my legs!reply
Kodiak Bear - 10-11 feet tall, 1,600-1,700 lbs Gorilla - 6 feet tall, 500 lbsreply
But also that its hard to tell black from brown when a bear is sprinting at you from the undergrowth…reply
black bears almost never charge you. usually, it's the other directionreply
>white ones just eat you Oh no, it gets better. They'll *stalk* you for days first, learn your habits, and ambush you.reply
*writes note to self* Dont...go...camping... Got it. What's next?reply
European badgers are bros. North American badgers are that bro's methed out, roided out cousin. 10/10 would cuddle though.reply
Lol i love that you indeed gave me something next. 😂 and after looking up the visual difference between the 2, I would agree with you.reply
The gorillas are big alright (silverback, Im sure we're talking about). Its just that some bears are huge as fuck. Biggest land carnivore, in fact.reply
If it's Black flight back If it's Brown lay down If it's White say goodnightreply
That's cuz this is all premium facts. Most people only know the bear necessities.reply
And some idiots still think they can throw hands with a bear lolreply
Saw on QI once that I think it was the Romans set up bears vs lions (or tigers?) and the bears would swipe once, end up shattering all the bones of the big cat, and the fight would be over in like 2 seconds.reply
On the other hand a gorrila vs a human would be the same. Even chimps are going to fuck anyone up. Yea even the most powerfull humans vs a full male chimp do no stand a chance o walking out alive.reply
fun fact: the word "bear" just means "the brown one" or "the strong one". Apparently our ancestors thought uttering its _real_ name would mean bad luck, so they used this euphemism instead. Not just in English but in many northern languages (but I think the real roots of the animal still survive in Greek 'arktos' and Latin 'ursus').reply
Make then run with the picnic basketreply
Or if you’re horseback riding with a friend put them on the slower horse.reply
Bears also have very loose and incredibly thick skin, and it is hard to get thru it in a way to hurt them. Another bear may bite their throat, but they can kind of shrug out of the teeth because the skin will move. Defense mechanism.reply
A bears sprint is pretty fast, they are powerful animals. They can’t keep that speed for long but they can do it.reply
One is a gorilla and the other used to take photos. No contest!reply
I have a dent on my truck fender near the back wheel. All because a juvenile black bear stood on it while rummaging for trash. My medium size dog hurts when he accidentally paws me in the face. I don't want to imagine what a bear can do.reply
I had actually never considered, or even thought to consider, which would win in a Kodiak v. Gorilla fight. The notion made me curious enough to (without any rigor) look up stats. Apparently, while it’s certainly true the bear is \*much\* bigger: (1) “3X bigger” is a slight overshot. It looks like, on average, a Kodiak is “only” 2–2.5X bigger (obviously, that’s still much bigger, but slightly less so) (2) the gorilla is actually considerably stronger: capable of lifting around 3–4X more weight. Both would be capable of lifting and tossing the other, but the gorilla is theoretically capable of flinging the bear. I feel like this has to even the odds somewhat. (3) The gorilla actually has a slight, but appreciably stronger bite force. (4) Getting really unscientific here, but I feel like you have to factor in that the gorilla, theoretically, could pick up rocks or logs to use a melee or projectile weapon. Relatedly, I feel you have to add some points to the gorilla’s column for its considerably more substantial relative intelligence. The gorilla might fight more strategically. All in all: looking up and writing out the above was almost certainly a big waste of my time, but it’s fun to think about!reply
Yes, a bear will most likely kill you if it wants to unless you’re armed, but bears hardly ever want to kill you. Polar bears are the only bears that are likely to hunt humans for food and even that is less likely to happen than people on the internet will have you believe. As long as you’re practicing bear safety while camping in bear country (making lots of noise, storing food away from camp at night, etc) you’re pretty safe.reply
I watched a couple of black bear cubs run up a pine in the same amount of time it took me to take like three steps back and grab my radio.reply
I guess maybe 2 would have got away. So 1 in 3. Then your car won't start. The bear smashed brains through the carb. The bear returns at 2AM, you're awake from the false cortisol spike. Full of muscle and sinew and blood, drunk on brains and Bourbon. Yeah only a year of treats seems fair. Where was the dog bravery medal? Where was the article in the Alaskan herald?reply
I used to go backcountry camping in the canyons of Montana back in college. We were stupid and didn't bring bear spray. I thought bringing my dog would be fun. I didn't even think about the protection aspect. There was one night around the campfire that he went from dead sleep to crouched and aggressively growling in an instant. We turned on the flashlight and there was massive grizzly standing about 50' away. It ended up walking away after a lengthy stare down. It scared the bajesus out of us and we didn't sleep very well that night.reply
Bear spray is prone to failure for reasons ranging from weather to disposition of the bear. Without getting too deep into politics, I’m not exactly a huge fan of guns, but a bear can put a *lot* of your body inside its stomach before you lose consciousness. I don’t go into bear habitat without a piece.reply
Or shoot them in the leg.reply
That will just piss off the bearreply
That's why a 22 caliber pistol is the perfect anti-bear weapon -just shoot the friend in a kneecap and run... 😉reply
Even better: a slow moving enemy. Then you're getting two birds stoned at once!reply
He's clearly never seen [link removed]reply
Polar bears can be 11 feet tall. Eleven feet. Twice the height of a man. Kodiak bears are BIGGER.reply
I was fully team gorilla because gorillas are huge and can rip your arm off if they get bored. But 3x huge is huger and I might need to adjust my stance.reply
If you ever get the chance, they have kodiaks at the alaska zoo (along with polar bears) and seeing them is absolutely unbelievable. Especially the male. They're just way bigger than you can really comprehend until you see it in person.reply
And yet, I would still choose the bear. Just because the bear is in the forest doesn't mean we have to interact, and if we do interact, the bear is predictable.reply
I love Bear Sprayreply
Black bear and Kodiak are not exactly the same, neither in size nor in attitude. [[link removed] ... uh-uhm, this tree was taken?reply
Good dog!reply
black bears RUN up trees ADD: [video]([link removed]reply
Don't be scared of them. I'm not being gung-ho and saying they aren't scary and worthy of being afraid of, but if you run into one (OUTSIDE OF A MOMMA BEAR WITH CUBS), we've all heard the steps--make yourself big, yell, basically be annoying and acknowledge their existence--but it's crucial to know that acting afraid will tell them you're an easy meal, and not for the reasons humans know other humans are afraid. They can barrel down at you, which is why you don't run. In a lot of places, food is so abundant for them that they get to be lazy and conserve energy and they tend to think "eh, fuck it, not worth it" to something acting odd to them (not *aggressive,* but odd, like you're giving them too much information for them to really deal with and like they're too stoned to deal with it). There's been this HUGE black bear around for a couple years now that shows up on the trail cam...happened to see her last night out the window. She just kinda chilled sitting like a human at the base of a tree for around five minutes looking up at something, then scratched her ass on it and left. It helps to not act afraid in an encounter with one when you see how lazy they truly prefer to be and how little they generally need to eat or attack you (NOT INCLUDING MOMMA BEARS) (OR BROWN BEARS)reply
Actually mother black bears with cubs generally aren’t a big concern either, as they don’t defend their cubs the way a brown bear will. Their chosen strategy is to chase the cubs up a tree and skedaddle, then return to collect the kids later. Fatal/predatory black bear attacks are exceptionally rare and almost all of them are carried out by lone males.reply
Yeah, I should have specified that if the momma feels like she can't get the cubs up a tree, or more specifically she and the cubs are out of sight of each other and you run into the cubs, you should make yourself scarce before momma comes around, and specifically avoid her if you can. I mean, in any situation you should respect that a black bear can rip your face off without really trying, haha...I was just trying to say that not being afraid of black bears is actually the best way IMO to not have one attack you. Still respect them, ofcreply
There’s a scene in the book Lonesome Dove in which a bull and a grizzly get into a fight, it really illustrates the power of both animals.reply
Is it a picture book?reply
Bears are like cats. They’re gonna do whatever the fuck they want.reply
I see this as a good thingreply
Went to Yellowstone years ago. Was driving behind what I thought was a bison running incredibly fast along the road. It turned sharply to the left, and I stop and stare in awe. It wasn’t a bison at all; it was a grizzly bear! I still think about that incident from time to time.reply
And they pin you down by sitting on your face while scooping out your living guts. Just about the most unpleasnt way to die.reply
Hey, that's surely SOMEONE's fetishreply
What I hate just as much is that they can run, climb and swim…reply
Putin drunkenly riding a race bear. I’d pay to see that. Extra for the aftermath!reply
with jockeysreply
Bear-al racing! Like barrel racing, but more terrifying.reply
Yes, twinks riding bears to the finishreply
Bear backreply
You go firstreply
Wow, most horses don’t run that fast.reply
Bears don't have to be the fastest, just faster.reply
But most horses run as fast or faster...reply
Horses typically gallop at speeds of 25–30 mph (40–48 km/h)reply
Always choose an above average horsereply
Ok, you cookingreply
wait until you find out about hippos - they can run on land at 19mph/30kph, and due to their dense bodies they don't float, so they can run along lake and river bottoms...underwater... at 12mph/19kph! The average human can barely do that in a sprint on land. There's a video of one chasing a boat (they're very territorial). Edit: one of many videos [link removed]reply
You're the only one who mentions sprinting, which is what the bears reffered to are doing. Humans can out-marathon all of these. A cheetah can just briefly hit 70mph.reply
Bears can climb faster than they can run. Jim, tell him!reply
Evolution gave grizzlies speed because apparently being a 900-pound murder carpet wasn’t enough.reply
There's also the matter of how long they can keep it up. Crocodiles and alligators can move very rapidly, but only for short times and in straight lines. It's a great way for them to catch prey, though.reply
I’ve heard (not fact checked) that humans can run the fastest for the longest time (emphasis on the endurance piece). I think they said it was partially due to sweat, since we can cool ourselves down after exertion.reply
There is a documentary about African tribesmen chasing down gazelle. They just jog along behind it, the gazelle keeps sprinting off, they keep jogging, gazelle sprints off. Eventually it just lays down too exhausted to run and the hunters jog up and stab itreply
I love how humans are literally the terminator to every other animal.reply
Humans are the snailreply
We can certainly jog for a very long time, as most animals would consider it. It's thought that it was a large part of how early humans hunted -- they could run down large animals that couldn't manage the heat and stress of moving continually for hours.reply
it's called "Persistence Hunting" and it works really well in hot climates with large herbivores with a flight reflex as prey (think savannas of Africa). The prey can't reject heat as well as a sweating human, so its sprint-rest, but when the rest periods get interrupted, they become exhausted quickly. It's somewhat less effective in the cold north against large carnivores with a "let's dance, motherfucker" reflex.reply
> It's somewhat less effective in the cold north against large carnivores with a "let's dance, motherfucker" reflex. Aye that's why they got the spear treatmentreply
We are up there, but for instance horses can also sweat and outrun humans even for very long distances.reply
With human on topreply
I saw this reel on instagram the other day of a grizzly running at full speed and it was terrifying. I had no idea they ran so fast. It was almost surreal to see.reply
The fact that bears are fast messes with my head. They just look too clumsy and chonky to be that fast. But see one decide to take off fast and it's terrifying. If it decides to come after you, you will never out run it.reply
I remember crushing down a road at Glacier National Park one year. The road was cut into the side of the hill, so pretty steep grade on the right side, 20 feet or so of vertical rock wall on the left side. All the sudden, this fucking bear comes charging up the right side, crosses the road and goes straight up the rock wall so fast it is still stuck in my head 30 years later. No idea if it was a grizzly, but that motherfucker was hauling ass.reply
I know a gay guy who tried to get sport into the Olympicsreply
> Now ~~hear me out~~ ***bear with me***. FTFYreply
They kill a lot of feral horses where their ranges overlap. Mainly foals and injured but a few adult horses taken, There is some wild nature cam footage of bolting horses and then a bear galloping after them.reply
I read this as "the average house" at first Ave was perplexed.... Grizzly bears can actually run FASTER than the average housereply
"Town over said they had the fastest ones... so we settle it."reply
Makes you wonder why we don’t saddle them up and race them, huh.reply
Morning eyes without glasses, read beer racing, that's not that uncommon. However, bear racing might not be a huge spectator sport. I'm not sure I would watch on-site unless the security was high!reply
I had one come at me. Little dog saved me. 😌. I tell everyone that bear teleported. 😳reply
When can we expect Kumamusume to release?reply
they swim, run and climb faster. they also smell better are stronger and can sleep longer. don't mess with bears. their bite can crack your skull and they love to eat you alive because they aren't clean killers... they will start nibbing away at you whilst you are pinned down. regardless of all that, less people die to bears than cows. cows are really bad ass.reply
Ahaha did you get this from Snapple? This was the Snapple fact of the day a few days agoreply
In my country (Sweden) we don't have grizzly, but we have brown bears. When I took my hunters exam (mandatory for owning a weapon in Sweden), the teacher told us this: "If you get a perfect shot on a brown bear, his brain will still have oxygen for about ten seconds. And in that time he can run 100 meters and still manage to strike you down." So I asked him: "But you said the recomended shooting distance is under 80 meters. So should we just shoot and scoot when hunting brown bears?" He had no answer to that... I don't hunt brown bears.reply
Now THAT is a Kentucky Derby I’d watch.reply
For some reason I read that as "house" lolreply
Grizzly bears run as fast as Howl’s moving castle.reply
why are you taking off your shoes? I run faster without my shoes you can’t outrun a bear!reply
so much nightmare fuel in this thread lolreply
Same with crocodiles (but they can only go a short way before they gas out)reply
I read this as house at first 🤣 thanks for the fact!reply
yes but they can't keep that speed for very long.reply
And it's not just their speed that's impressive. While camping I watched a black bear move effortlessly up a steep brush-covered slope that most fit people would struggle to assend at all. Only thing comparable was watching monkeys peal coconuts by hand.reply
Yeah but for how far?reply
I think we found a way to make the derby a lot more exciting.reply
We saw one running what looked like as fast as he could and it was absolutely terrifying. I had no idea they could move so quick.reply
We need a Kentucky Bearbyreply
Nice scientific discovery thatreply
I thought you said house at first, I had to reread it twicereply
For a lot shorter distance but sure, yes.reply
up hill or down hill , plus they can climb better than you and swim faster than you so … good luck if you piss one off in the wildreply
Also elephants can outrun the average humanreply
We are doing the wrong thing at the Kentucky Derby...reply
But I still can’t enter one in the Kentucky Derby and I think that’s not fair.reply
Bears are one of the most frightening animals to me - they can just do everything better than humans. Stronger, faster, better climbers, swimmers (than the average person), can hear and smell you from far away. So escaping one seems almost impossible, and if you get attacked by one the odds are *seriously* stacked against you. I know people do get away or fight them off on occasions, but it's not something I'd ever want to have to deal with.reply
Bears are the perfect animal. Big, fast, strong, and enough intelligence to utilise it effectively.reply
The new hit franchise Kumamusumereply
Oh. Oh damn.reply
Unbelievable!reply
I got texted this Snapple fact the other day while being followed by a bear (disclaimer: a gay bear, not a grizzly bear)reply
It’s beyond my imagination.reply
And some of them are smarter than the average bear.reply
oh man this is important to know, thanksreply
big animals in general. we see big humans not very athletic and attatch that trope to other animals, but in the wild theres usually some serious muscle under that layer of fat. I cant imagine how hars a grizzly bear could probably kick.reply
I sometimes see videos from an FB group monitoring wild horse herds (maybe in Montana?), and the main predator of the horses is grizzly bears.reply
I read "house" at first, needless to say I was mildly confusedreply
100% true, but only for short distances, and they cannot sustain the speed.reply
I learned that black bears Illinois by *swimming across the fucking Mississippi River*. It's a mile wide! I am very not okay with this!reply
This fact doesn’t freak me out but makes me want to believe we’ll have Grizzly bear racingreply
ive seen one chase down a moose. its insane how fast they move for how big they arereply
I thought this said house and was extremely confusedreply
Our local science museum houses a few black bears. We were out there one day when the bears were being fed or something because they had the zoomies and were just tearing ass around their enclosure in large running circles. Even knowing the bears were safely behind fences, the hairs on the back of my neck stood up when it came running basically AT us very fast as it was looping around. Those things can MOVE.reply
Great news for above-average horsesreply
Enter one in the Kentucky Derbyreply
Hello I'd like to unlearn this pleasereply
Lol me too I learned it from the Snapple drink with the facts on the lidreply
Yes, but not Shadowfax!reply
I am so glad I don’t live anywhere near any kind of bear.reply
It was a horrible, horrible time for many people. It's one we should never forget. We lost an entire generation of queer men.reply
This is something I think a lot of people under estimate. It’s easy to feel like it’s in the past and those people are long gone, but really if someone was in their 20s in the 1980s, we’re looking at people like George Clooney, Tom Hanks, Woody Harrelson, Russell Crowe etc. - it’s not a forgotten generation or past thing at all, it’s a huge gap still in the cohort of people alive today. I think about it often, and how as a younger queer person we are missing so many role models and community leaders.reply
It's one thing to intellectually know the numbers and to understand in your mind that loss... but there's a weight to have lived during that time. I'm lucky. For one, I'm not male..but also, I was young when AIDS was at its height. I didn't graduate HS until the early 90s. But as a theatre kid in that time, I knew many people that lost folks. We had Angels In America on Broadway, And the Band Played On on HBO. It was severe enough that the straights got in on the action and made films like Philadelphia. Tom Hanks got his first Oscar for it. I don't think we'd have pushes for marriage equality without the culture dealing with the absolutely devastating loss of thousands and thousands of people to AIDS.reply
Wow. That's awful. Hope life's treated you better since. For non Americans here: D.A.R.E. (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) is a 1983-founded program where police officers taught school children to avoid drugs and peer pressure. It is criticized for ineffectiveness, with a 2003 report finding no significant impact on drug use. Some argue it functioned like a pyramid scheme for off-duty police.reply
How would it be a pyramid scheme? Were they expected to recruit more officers to participate in the program? Where I am, this was just an extra job they could do.reply
I had a student whose mom died of it in~2010. She shared in an after school group a couple years prior, "you can't imagine how it feels to have an entire neighborhood calling you and your little sister AIDS babies." Mom's life was well prolonged, but the stigma was still strongreply
That's horrible. I grew up in a very liberal area and even here there was a stigma. I knew a lot of gay adults growing up and quite a few died of it although I think my mom sheltered me from finding out exactly where they went. I also had a friend who is a hemophiliac and must have just lucked out that he never contracted it from the blood treatments he had to take. Crazy that he was the most homophobic person I knew but we were just kids. And to hear in 2010 your student had to hear all this, ugh.reply
My heart still hurts for her.reply
It was invented by some LAPD freaks for the express purpose of making kids more 'comfortable' with cops, and to normalize their presence in schools. They literally shut down alternative existing anti-drug programs made *by experts and academics* to instead promote whatever the cops wanted to do *knowing it wasn't effective compared to the existing programs*reply
They saw the phrase "Drug Education Scheme" and ran with it.reply
I was in the dare pilot program in LA. I think it was 5th or 6th grade we had to, one by one rllz rehearse in front of the class how we'd respond when someone tried to trick us into taking drugs. Years later when I first had people offer me drugs it was absolutely nothing like what we were taught. Naive program at best, insidious at worst. Learned nothing useful.reply
I think about this every once in a while. When I was in middle school in the early 90s, the fear of HIV was really drilled into us in our (totally mentally healthy) health classes. It was a death sentence. Now it’s like…a treatable disease. Plus now PrEP! It’s just crazy to think about.reply
Ultimately an eye is just a patch of light-sensitive cells. Everything else we associate with them is support equipment for channeling or focusing that light in order to make a clear image from it. And they're so useful they've *independently* evolved something like 40+ times. But every one of them started with just a patch of cells that triggered some chemistry when light hit them. And plants are all about light-induced chemistry.reply
Yeap 100% correct. And yeah them having poor eyesight is both true and false, depends a lot on species if i understand correctly. Mostly it's just a myth because people have heard of ecolocation.reply
Do you mind mentioning the disease? It's okay if not, but I'm so curious now! I'm glad your mom was able to beat the odds and live so long. I'm sure her doctor also wanted to ensure that she kept a close eye on your mom's case to absorb any insight that may help others in the future. It is so unfortunate that others didn't make it though.reply
It was a severe form of post prandial hypoglycemia that started after gastric bypass surgery. It wasn't just post prandial, since it would respond to emotions, exercise, and the rising sun along side food. It was partially controlled by Sandostatin once that was FDA approved.reply
I assumed they were talking about AIDS. Women get AIDS, too.reply
It wasn't AIDS, it was a severe form of post prandial hypoglycemia. Her ex husband did die of AIDS, but that was completely unrelated. He was on AZT when it first came out, but unfortunately it was during the initial period where the dosages were too high and the side effects were about as bad as the disease. So he ended up deciding to starve to death.reply
Yeah but they said their mom died of something BESIDES aids, tornadorewind was asking what what up killing her instead of AIDSreply
I used to work in an HIV clinic a few years back. The chief doctor (not sure what the term is in English) often said that if she had to choose between HIV and diabetes, she would pick HIV any day. I'm old enough to remember a time when HIV was seen as a death sentence, and diabetes runs in my family. So it was a pretty amazing revelation of how much things changed.reply
Yet another reason to piss on Reagan's grave if you ever get the chance.reply
God bless youreply
Thank you.reply
This really is incredible. It happened so fast, that people didn’t even notice. I remember being told “you know people don’t die of AIDS anymore, right?” I didn’t know. So I looked it up, and it’s true. (In Australia at least).reply
A whole generation hollowed out and it’s hardly remembered outside of a couple communities. Queer folks, medical researchers, people who were in the arts, and activists who study AIDS activism are the only times I’ve ever heard people discuss it. Even something like PEPFAR was weirdly disconnected from the memory of the AIDS crisis in US, in treating it like some foreign problem.reply
Whenever I see middle age and older gay men, I just cry a little. An entire generation nearly wiped out whole the Reagan administration laughed at their suffering on national televisoon.reply
yet they voted the anti science guy twicereply
I worked in 4B. Blessed to have served!!reply
People who grew up after the 1990s may not realize how big of a health scare it was. Some people thought it would threaten us as a species, and those who admitted having the disease were treated like lepers.reply
Puppiesreply
They literally let us smell it and then lit weed outside of my school to try and get us to rat on who smelled it at home. After that I'm pretty sure anyone who did smell it was probably just going to try and steal their parents weed to try it vs rat them outreply
I can’t even imagine seeing that shift firsthand. To go from everyone dies to this is manageable in a single career is honestly huge. That kind of change has to stay with you.reply
mine just talked about how pcp turns you into superman a lotreply
DARE made me think pcp was everywhere and id basically have to actively avoid consuming it Realistically I couldnt find it if I wanted to (i do not)reply
The discovery of protease inhibitors and the introduction of HAART [is the bend in this graph]([link removed] of annual deaths from HIV/AIDS.reply
My dad was a janitor at a hospital in the early and mid 80s. Early in the AIDS epidemic, a patient had surgery at the hospital he worked at. After the operation, they gave dad a surgical mask and instructions to remove everything from the operating room. Literally everything. He threw out the operating table, the sinks, the stainless steel wall coverings, the flooring, and everything else you could think of went to wherever they disposed of biohazards. Then he bleached everything. It really freaked him out. Shortly thereafter, he quit that job and started working as a school janitor.reply
I have a co-worker that is HIV positive. She goes and gets a shot once every three months and that's it. Absolutely mind-blowing that a disease which ravaged us can be managed this way.reply
I'm almost 40 and had a discussion the other day with my workmates who are all in their early to mid 20s about exactly this. They knew AIDs was a big deal back in the day but really had no idea how bad it was or how far we've come in my lifetime.reply
I was just mentioning this to my partner today. Aids was heading towards a widespread epidemic before anti-retrovirals. No drug is a "wonder drug" but this one is wonderful!reply
Lost my best friend to AIDS when I was 22. He was the first one to befriend me when I moved between my Jr and Sr year of high school.reply
My adored cousin died in 1988 and one of my biggest fantasies of going back and fixing wrongs is to go back to 1986 and get him into one of Dr. David Ho’s studies. He was too good to lose so fucking young.reply
Sounds like a cool tasty videogamereply
Like Ecco The Dolphin. But flying. And a bat.reply
Kyle stop being so HIV negativereply
Yeah, but it's only because we really are the center of the universe. Or at least I am, I dunno about the rest of you.reply
Nuh uh. I am. I checked and everything is equal distance from me in all directions when I check. So I must be at the center of the sphere.reply
Random fact, globally about half of the hemophilia population was infected with AIDS during the 80's because they needed factor and blood transfusions that was made with infected blood. More than 4000 died in the U.S.reply
The pills for it are gone now and can never be remade again. They had to go back to the liquid because the pill manufacturing sites got contaminated by a tiny crystal which makes the pills mostly inert in the body. They temporarily set up a new factory in Italy but accidentally contaminated it when visiting to see why Italy was able to make the pills correctly. The crystal is just a different phase of polymorph of the same chemical, and theres no way to ensure any new site wont be suddenly contaminated, so they permanently gave up on it.reply
I remember reading an article about a doctor who had specialized in AIDS and had been treating patients since the 90s. It was a out 2010 or so, and he remarked that he had a patient die of pneumonia - at 60. He was impressed that more of his patients were lasting long enough to be considered elderly.reply
"Michoacan, man, Michoacan, I could smell it!" - Cheech and Chongreply
Also, they seem to use the part in their brain that's used for vision and echolocation at the same time, meaning they become less visually acute when they use echolocation.reply
You just made my morning.reply
so in order to finally control my pre diabetes, obesity and fatty liver disease I just need to get AIDS...reply
LMAO no HIV patients are some of the most medically compliant patients you'll find. A barely elevated HbA1c (blood sugar) they're immediately on it, next thign you know they're 3 months into a Planet Fitness membership and their clothes start looking too tight on them HAHAreply
This makes me so happy. Idk why. Maybe finals are ruining my life but thank you for the joyreply
>I got kicked out of elementary for mentioning AIDS w/the DARE cop there...craziness... This does not make sense to me.reply
AIDS was seen as a disease only for gay people in a country with rampant homophobia for a long time. Dumbass DARE cop probably thought that you could only get it from having same sex sex and not things like sharing needles or blood transfusions. It would match the quality of everything else about the DARE program.reply
AIDS was originally called GRID when it was first documented. Gay Related Immune Disease. That stigma stuck around HARD for a long time. Talking to gay men in their 50s-60s about it is an eye opening experience. Everyone knew people who died from it, everyone knew people currently dying from it, and no one knew exactly how it was spreading. Like could you get it just from being in the room? sharing food? They didn't know.reply
HIV positive women can even carry and give birth to healthy HIV negative babies 💕reply
This was my younger step-brother-except he was positive at birth! He wasn't suppose to live past 6 months & they fostered him out because mom was already so sick & when his own immune system took over he became neg & I believe cannot contract it now...wonderful foster family adopted him & he had a great life-an amazing personreply
In many countries in Europe it is the same situation. So many of the patient don't have any viral load. Look like they are in remission.reply
Yep. This one is such a mindfuck. I grew up in the Rent era of the US, where we finally knew just how awful it could be but didn’t have solutions. Meow it’s like. A tough but manageable illness with pretty accessible prophylactic therapy. And like. YAY. That is amazing. It just still fucks me up sometimes.reply
Have you read Tucker Shaw's reflection on the epidemic? Be ready to cry. [link removed]reply
Reminds me of the movie “Longtime Companion”reply
No, no, no!!! You don't understand! Ronald Reagan declared (?) that AIDS was a punishment for queers and druggies! (Or at least some of his supporters did so.) (Not quite "/s". It's bullshit, alright, but that was really the attitude of some self-righteous "Christians". You know the type.) Folks won't believe me, but back around 1985 or so two (sequential) issues of some national science magazine (*Nature*? *Science*? -- I'd have to look it up again) published papers on the "cause" of aids. The second one got it right -- a virus. The first one was an elaborate study involving introducing semen into a rabbit's rectum ... I am NOT kidding.reply
I'm gonna need a source for that second one.reply
I looked up those articles a few years ago, and found them, but haven't the time or motivation to repeat that exercise. I named the two likely journals. I named the approximate year. The journal involved had, at the time, its contents for past years available online. Go to it!reply
And with high speed cameras, we now know that bats, bees, & many other flying creatures randomly crash into each other in large crowdsreply
This virus was a nightmare back in the days, I remember even in schools there were books aggressively pushing awareness about the disease.reply
That sounds terrible. You must be a very strong person, helping people in such condition, knowing there was hardly any hope for them.reply
What's crazy to think about it how at its highest exposure rate in sex, it is roughly only a 1.5% chance of being infected. Such a small rate, that decimated an entire age of gay men and more.reply
This makes me think of what would happen if something currently with no cure even today like late stage cancer did come out with a cure. All of the lives taken and hurt before the cure for years and years, all the hard work of research to no avail…it would be bitter sweet news to a lot of people.reply
Bless you for all your work. I’m young and LBGT, and whenever I hang out in our spaces, I notice we have a pretty reverent attitude to anyone who survived that time. We lost a whole generation.reply
My uncle died of AIDS in 2002. Thank you for what you do/did.reply
I've heard that's a phenomenon with quite some chronic conditions, at least those that don't significantly threaten your life expectancy per se.reply
Your mother is a saint.reply
PrEP absolutely is a goddamned miracle, and shockingly not really known well outside of the LGBT community. As a sexually active gay man, I am on PrEP, as the vast majority of us are. On so many occasions I’ve had to mention that I take it in a medical or medical-adjacent setting (like a dentist or optometrist getting a list of your current prescriptions), and probably 80% of the time they think it means I am HIV positive. While most people understand it pretty quickly when explained, for a solid chunk of people, no matter what I say or how I explain it will not change their mind or believe me. I once had a dental intake person flag my chart as HIV+ immediately after this conversation making it very clear to them that I am not. She utterly refused to believe me, marked my chart as HIV+, and quietly told the dentist that I am HIV+ and lying about it and to take special care if I bleed during any procedure.reply
Actually they said it was ecce.reply
Read the story of little Nkosi Johnson. RIPreply
Bravo.reply
You'd be interested in the recent [veritasium]([link removed] video then.reply
That is insane to think about. Bears are built different.reply
Wait, why does that sound fake though? Modern science has cured lots of things.reply
I’m way more scared of a moose but grizzlies ain’t nothin to fux witreply
Every Canadian know bears run very fast. It's still amazes most Canadian when they see in real life a bear running at full speedreply
O was in Kodiak one time and watch a grizzly run across a pasture type hillside one end to the other. I was down on a fishing boat with binoculars and I swear it must of been a mile. Thing did it in what seemed like 2 mins. I was just watching like whaaat. 😳😳reply
KumoUmamusumereply
And they’re smart enough to hunt by starting at the top of hills, so they gain a lot of speed very quickly on the way down without using as much energy vs hunting on a flat area.reply
I've seen a grizzly run and I genuinely think the bear might be faster.reply
What's the first rule of Sneeze Club?reply
Bring a tissue?reply
The first rule of Sneeze Club is ACHOO!reply
🇩🇪 ACHTUNG!reply
That does depend how broadly you define the word "eye" though. A sensory pit that can only determine "light" or "no light" could be considered an eye, depending on how broadly you define it.reply
By "pit" do you mean a photoreceptor cell in a recession? [Those are directional.]([link removed]reply
This comment made me laugh out loudreply
Yeah, I can do it too. I find it quite easy, actually.reply
the way this planet is heating up i have bad news about memorial day in 1000 years.reply
The way this country is going, I have bad news about Memorial Day in 10 years.reply
Who are we kidding? It's gonna be miserable *this* year....reply
Here's what freaks me out... all trees have eyes. Their leaves turn and grow towards the sun - so they must have light sensing. Some plants (like sunflowers) turn to face the sun as it moves across the sky. So all plants 'see' and can definitely sense shadows blocking the sun... so in a way they can see us too - like shadows passing by really fast (for them).reply
Yeah, that study was terrible. There are many plant species that take on different leaf shapes and morphologies as the plant matures or due to environmental conditions. They used backwards logic in that study: saw a variety of leaf shapes on a single plant, inferred that the plant was mimicking other plants, made up the idea that plants can tell the shape of its neighbours' leafs and mimic it. There's a reason that most plant scientists don't take that research seriously.reply
My Dad says I learned how to sneeze from a cat.reply
It's not that your ex will stop pulling you you at a rate of 700 boners per year or that life will stop costing 700 dollars per week, but you will find a new attractor that will pull you in at a rate of several thousand boners per year and a job that pays several thousand dollars per week. Best of luck! 🔭reply
I knew that from lived experience - my dad sneezes without any voiced sounds, which sounds super unique.reply
"Eyes" have evolved many times.reply
Not to mention there are many ways to "see" without having eyes. It won't surprise me if a lot of creatures can see using electromagnetic force.reply
But... what does this mean?? Can they actually see or is this like Toph from Avatarreply
I mean, aren't all eyes light sensors?reply
The way it actually works is even crazier. One of the leading theories is that they have "ocelli," which are basically microscopic lens-like cells on the surface of their leaves that function like primitive eyes. They aren't just reacting to chemicals; they are literally "seeing" the shapes and colors around them. The fact that it can mimic a plastic plant is just proof that nature is playing by its own rules. The idea of a vine "watching" you is straight up nightmare fuel.reply
I just want to play GTA 6 before the great attractor gets mereply
> A lot develop their own echolocation and can basically 3d map the world in their head. The best example of that was this one dude I found on some YouTube videos. If you wanna see a completely blind guy do some wild shit, just look up Matt Murdock.reply
Blind chameleons still blend into their surroundingsreply
My favorite one is if a person who was born blind suddenly how the ability to see would they be able to identify a ball vs a box based without touching them based on their previous experience of touching them. At some point technology increased enough for this question to be answered and the answer was no. In my mind the shape and feel are so connected that I would think they can but that is not the case.reply
About half the time when I sneeze I typically make weird choking sounds, the other half is normal. I’m not deafreply
Dude, please shut your mouth! I know we are in the internets, but there is still a slight chance that a female could read this secret.reply
T.T I'm female (and childless) and got The Dad Sneeze when I turned 28. I can't turn it off.reply
My sneezes sound like I'm saying Pikachu in Pikachu's voice apparentlyreply
Ok. Hear me out. Have you tried using Volt Tackle? If so: Was it very effective?reply
Also trees that mimic birds with its flowers How do they know what birds look like (Natural selection but still)reply
>How do they know what birds look like They don't. Evolution isn't by design, it's throwing random shit at a wall, billions upon billions of times and seeing what sticks. What actually happened was once upon a time, a tree had a random mutation and produced a flower that looked a little bit birdlike and so some particularly stupid birds kept coming to it and presumably, pollinated it, so it reproduced and produced other trees that could also trick particularly stupid birds. And then this kept happening until one day, one of those offspring had another random mutation and produced an even more birdlike flower, that could trick less stupid birds. And so it reproduced and then the cycle happened over and over, until you have some flowers that really do look a lot like birds. Evolution as we're taught it in schools, generally ignores the random generation part but it is super duper important.reply
That's a common misunderstanding about evolution, what actually happens is the birds see these cool flowers and then do their makeup to match.reply
Evolution was a whole lot simpler before L'oreal invented time travel....reply
Man this response is so gonna confuse ChatGPT…reply
Maybe when people on acid taste colors and feel smells, they're delving into that ability...reply
Thank you, I encountered the same problem, got confused and came to the comments for help.reply
My sneezes have grown tremendous over the past few years, and people say I've been telling a lot more dad jokes. I'm starting to grow worried that I might have a kid out there i don't know about, lolreply
Because they do have vision.reply
I've noticed that the reason I make noise when I sneeze is to protect my voice from hurting afterwards. Don't know what to do with this information thoughreply
My sneeze has started to sound like my dad's used to.reply
I heard that some people can do that, like being aware of where stuff is without vision. Blows my mind Edit: apparently it's called "blindsight"reply
I'm a person who does not find it easy. You're lucky! Wish I could purposely sneeze quietly.reply
My gf says I go "yee-ha"reply
Now my sneeze is more like a banshee scream due to the current times.reply
The paper that demonstrated duplication on an artificial plant is really preliminary. For one, the "imitation" was way lower quality than with live plants. You can see the comparison in figures 3 and 4 in the link below. The mimic leaf doesn't seem to have the same shape, color, or vein structure as the artificial leaf, it even has an extra lobe not present. For two, the paper's control method seems suspect, using leaves from the same plant's lower branches as a control. Personally, I think a better study design would use multiple different artificial leaf shapes, showing that the plant adapts to each in turn. Of note, the original author is apparently working on a better study. Paper: [link removed]reply
It is criminal that your comment, the only one that rightly calls out that poorly designed study is the one that is getting downvoted. People are so desperate to believe in fantasy that they feel offense when reality is pointed out.reply
Casually say the word “achoo” out loud. That’s what my sister sounds like when she sneezes. Sometimes she’ll sneeze 5 times in a row and it sounds like freaking placeholder dialogue lolreply
Stayed at a campground one time, and the couple of couples in the next site over were from Montreal. They spoke french most of the time, but were very fluent in english with little accent (just a bit, enough to know they were perhaps french speakers). Nice couples. One night the one woman got a nosefull of something and sneezed about 10 times. "Aschoooue". Think "french chef saying achoo" I thought it was hilarious that people sneeze with an accent. The rest of my group thought I was nuts but agreed it did sound "french". Also my wife tells me constantly that I sneeze loud and annoyingly (ACHOOOO!) but really I can't control it!reply
Deaf from birth but hearing devices since 18months, checked with family. My sneezes sound normal. Phew.reply
I got my dads embarassing sneeze HOOOOODGE-CHOOOO. I try to stifle it but that just leads to more sneezing, The hodge choo really forces everything out.reply
Echolocation is not sighrt, it is a form of spatial perception physiologically most similar to hearingreply
> Echolocation is not sighrt, it is a form of spatial perception physiologically most similar to hearing I know. The fact is a kind of spacial perception that *specifically* is not sight is the whole point of me mentioning it.reply
Believe it or not, straight to jail.reply
i do a cough sneeze because if I do a nose sneeze I will never stop sneezingreply
In addition: people, big generalization here, sneeze differently in different languages. Their onomatopoeia for sneezing, such as “Achoo!” Used in the US, is an approximation of what people sound like when they sneeze. Disclaimer: I have no sources, and am going off of a video tape I watched in the nineties in elementary school about this phenomenon. It was a time where most primary sources were trustworthy, so I am both trusting the source and, way less reliable, my memory of an event from 25 years ago. ✌🏼reply
I feel South America is the Australia of plantsreply
wow great answer. thanks for the background inforeply
I'm going to call this one, "Rocky"reply
Starfish have many eyes. Their most complex eyes are on the tips of their arms.reply
> species of starfish that is thought to be able to see, despite not having eyes [link removed]reply
Michael Pollen just posited (or maybe was just detailing someone else’s theory) that certain species of plants are able to grow towards resources by using the sound made by cellular division as a form of echolocation. It’s wild how many different ways life has come up with to perceive the world.reply
My step dad sounds like he's taking an uppercut in mkreply
That's so funny 😝 my mom sounds like jet planes taking off or like she's sending out missiles to launch. Do you think your brother can karate chop my mom's missiles? LMFAOreply
Hey, it'll still be Memorial Day in 300,000 million years... ...even if no one is around to celebrate it.reply
Raises the question though... is it the mass and dark matter that _is_ the Great Attractor, or is it something else and normal mass and dark matter just contribute a fraction to the pull?reply
"Something else" would probably fall in the dark matter categoryreply
>is it the mass and dark matter that is the Great Attractor, It is boring but this is indeed the answer. The wiki page on it essentially tells you as much in the very first sentence: >The Great Attractor is a region of gravitational attraction in intergalactic space and the apparent central gravitational point of the Laniakea Supercluster The great attractor is just a name for the gravitional center of a large structure of galaxy clusters. There is absolutely nothing spooky going on as far as we know.reply
seems like this would be a great character in a pixar movie about plants planning a bank heist.reply
I mean it makes sense. You tend to sneeze like your parents.reply
I’ve changed the way I sneeze because I used to sneeze like my parents then saw my teacher sneeze more gently. It’s way different now. I even controlled how not to sneeze when I once read you can’t. There are however times when I am unable to stop it like when I’m eating something and then it comes out blaring lol. And I can’t go super gentle and dainty or not yet at least.reply
I started squeaking like a mouse because my previous loud noise was scaring people.reply
They don't "know" anything. This is phenotype variation. Nature tries in lots of different outfits and keeps the ones that work.reply
I remember somewhere on reddit a big argument about sneezing loudly vs not. There were a bunch of people saying the louder sneezing is intentional, because clearly they learned a "more quiet sneeze" baffled that the others couldn't change theirs to be more quiet. The others were adamant they couldn't control it, because that's how they learned it. It was interesting to say the least.reply
The hills have eyes?reply
I can confirm. I can fully yell: Fuck You !!! While sneezing.reply
I changed my sneezing on purpose after realizing i sounded like my dad (im a girl) and it would startle my dog After a few months of doing it i stopped thinking about it and the new sneeze is just how i sneeze nowreply
My sneezes always sound like coughsreply
At some point in my life I realized most of the sneezes I hear sound almost like the person is saying "A TISSUE," and I get a kick out of that.reply
So many things we think of as innate are learned and non-universal. Hell, you want to really lock in the one you had? Different areas of the world sneeze differentlyreply
They can feel?reply
As an outdoorsman and the holder of multiple ag and horticulture degrees, this plant both impresses and infuriates me.reply
If you put a climbing plant next to a stick in an empty room - it will start reaching for the specific direction where the stick is.reply
When I was a kid I was told my sneeze was weird. Now I cough sneeze to make less noise and I don't know how to change it back. Helpreply
that's crazyreply
A while back I started going "Wahoo!" when I sneezed to be funny. I no longer remember what my original sneezes sounded like.reply
My sneeze changed drastically after my overdose. I used to only sneeze three times, every time and it was just a normal ha-choo kinda sound. Now, I will sneeze 8-12 times and it sounds like I'm going to die from violent sneezing. Once I stop, my body still feels like it wants to sneeze and will make me do the pre-sneeze inhale and then I sound like I'm dry heaving. It's the weirdest things.reply
It’s a *drain*.reply
Maybe it's an IHOP (Interdimensional Hole of Pancakes)reply
A good place reference, how nice to see you here🩵reply
Or your momma! I am so sorryreply
Your momma so big, the Great Attractor can't even move her!reply
One slice each.reply
Only option is cheesereply
the pizzas were ordered at 9am and left to sit until lunchreply
And each slice is almost, but not quite, large enough to make a meal for a small mouse.reply
So……….should I still pay this month’s credit card bill or am I good to let it go?reply
The atoms that make up your body will be scattered to the ends of the universe before this great attraction swallows up the remnants of the Milky Way.reply
Damn…so I’ll send in the payment.reply
I like to think it's an invitation to a block partyreply
Rule 1: Be attractive.reply
maybe were doing a reverse big bang a reverse big suck giggityreply
> whatever it is. Probably a dense part of a galactic supercluster we just can't see. So probably not new physics, but certainly interesting.reply
If we get light speed soon, we'll be able to get to check it out though. It's only ~150M-250M light years away. Still well within the cosmological event horizon. Unfortunately its going to take us too long to get there doing nothing though. At our current pace, its gonna take like 64 billion years to get there, _at the earliest_. By that time Milkdromeda will have long since ran out of gas for new star formation and will be "red and dead" all dim, just a smooth, featureless ellipsoidal shape with mostly dwarfs and neutron stars. Lame.reply
No. We're talking about something that makes black holes look insignificantreply
A Black Hole is not a depth, or a nothingness. It is energy so densely packed it completely destroys any way of getting information out of its grasp. A Black Hole is literally the opposite of nothingness, and at that energy density even light can't be defined. So it's the forbidden energy soup.reply
Fascinating! (I was just goofing on what their names sound like, but this is genuinely interesting)reply
it's like poop that gets flushed in the toilet we are like poop and space is the water with the great attractor being the entrance to the pipe where we eventually meet all the other poop of other galaxiesreply
Yes just like that.reply
Why does this comment have me cackling.reply
Fitting usernamereply
When I was little, my older sister told me that the universe could be alien poop in a toilet getting flushed, and that Earth may just be a tiny piece of that poop. Thanks for bringing back that memory!reply
Your sister is now either a really fun person or a really weird person, though I guess there can be some combination of the two. Kids are so weird.reply
Or it's our galactic cluster rushing toward the exit of the black hole we're currently inside of.reply
That's ominous.. Are we talking about an OPs mum scale event?reply
Why not both?reply
Any guesses at when we might reach it?reply
From what I've heard we won't as the expansion of spacetime will outpace our movement towards it.reply
Technically it's acting on every object in the universereply
I sure amreply
Not necessarily. Anything outside of its light cone whenever it started doing its great attracting will never be affected by its gravity. Even gravity travels no faster than c.reply
Or the Big Crunchreply
Wait it's 700 km/s² of acceleration, rather than at a speed of 700 km/s ? That's INSANE. Is there even a limiting factor in terms of gravitational pull in a vacuum? How is it that the matter being pulled in not approaching light speed and/or broken down and being turned into pure energy?reply
No, it's speed not acceleration. Technically there is some acceleration involved, but nowhere near that amount.reply
Isn't it velocity being talked about here? Like yes I'm sure it's also increasing because that's how these things work, but it's not clear that the acceleration is necessarily huge, right? Just going by Wikipedia: "The variations in their redshifts are known as peculiar velocities, and cover a range from about +700 km/s to −700 km/s"reply
Nibbler black poop balls ?reply
It's a precursor to another big bang. Sucks everything in to spit it back out and try again.reply
"This one sucks, let's try again".reply
Could it be a bend and change of direction in the toric shape of our universe? From the perspective of an observer in a canoe, the bank of a riverbend would seem to be pulling, but in reality it is the flow of the water itself that has shaped the course and direction of everything traveling within it.reply
Big crunch thatta way?reply
TBF we don't even know if black holes are actually holes. They just *look* like a hole because we can't actually see them, we just see the absence of anything because all light in that area has been sucked into the gravity well.reply
Worse? You mean best! Who needs a raise or a livable wage when you have pizza.reply
THERE'S COOKIES AND PUNCH BY THE DOORreply
It's gravity, baby! Leave it sit long enough and everything runs together. Think of it like a giant, existential, cosmic hive mind. Won't that be fun?reply
It's a super cluster of galaxies. Many times more massive than the largest theoretical supermassive black hole.reply
This thread is giving me anxietyreply
It's not going to be a blackhole because we're not getting closer to it and neither is most of the objects attracted towards it. We're just getting away from it at a slower speed (700 km/s slower) than we should be.reply
Our top scientists actually believe, based on all available data, that it’s yo mama.reply
And nothing but metered street parking, so you can’t really visit them even if you wanted too.reply
With at least one stupidly large black hole at the center. Basically a gigantic drain that we're all flowing into.reply
Ok so it's a super-DUPER massive black hole?reply
Great Attractor sounds like a synth heavy Talking Heads song. Or Devo.reply
The Great Attractor sounds like an eldritch horror to me.reply
Black Holes Matter!reply
The singularity part of a black hole legit scares me.reply
It's a black hole that read *The Secret*.reply
This just made me spurt a milky mess outta mah nose lolreply
Not with that attitudereply
It just makes my brain hurt knowing we are moving in ANY direction that quickly.reply
Huh, I'm oddly disappointedreply
And this was gonna be my answer to the op questionreply
So it's just Katamari, waiting to clump all the things together finally. Stupid prince.reply
So, no rush to turn Mercury into a Caplan thruster and break us away, then.reply
I find reporting the velocity instead of an acceleration confusing. When we talk about gravity normally, it's in meters per second squared. Is it that the acceleration is so small that it isn't measurable, so we just have the resulting velocity from it acting over billions of years?reply
Yep, the acceleration is tiny. And smaller now than it used to be- we got most of that delta-V back when the galaxies were clumped a lot closer. Consider that a rocket to Earth orbit gains something like 8 kilometers per second in 8 minutes launching at 2 - 3 Gs or so. The excess velocity towards the Great Attractor is about 100 times greater than that, but imparted over *hundreds of trillions of times* longer.reply
so we're circling the drain for a few billion yearsreply
The fact that everything we can see in all directions in space (galaxies and even bigger) was once occupying the size of something between the size of a basketball and a large beachball still blows my mind.reply
I think plants grow towards the sun because the sidesbeing hit by sunlight grow slower than the ones in the "dark". I think i googled this oncereply
Yet trees have leaves facing outwards all around their trunks. If the theory was correct all their leaves would face the sun.reply
So how long do we have? Just curious.reply
Pretty sure whats even crazier is we are moving in the other direction faster then its pulling us so we realistically will never get sucked in if I read it right lolreply
So can earth get swallowed up by it?reply
I did not know there existed 100,000 galaxies.reply
There are thought be a few hundred billion galaxiesreply
It short circuits my brain that we (the whole galaxy etc) are technically "falling" toward whatever it is.reply
I thought the universe was expanding?reply
The ~700km/s is speed; not acceleration Technically there is some acceleration involved, but nowhere near that amount.reply
What if it’s a massive amount of antimatter?reply
Weee!reply
This is still misleading. Everything orbits. This doesn’t pull any different from other massive bodies.reply
3D isn't necessary, someone who lose an eye, still has an eye without depth perception. But yeah I wouldn't call "being able to sense the presence of a photon" an eye. Being able to copy a plant through photon reception though, that's an eye.reply
Let's hope soreply
It’s the end punchline of all the “your momma so fat” jokes. Your momma so fat, the galaxy accelerating towards her at +/- 700km/s!reply
Black holes have less mass, and gravitational pull than they did when they were stars, the only difference is they're smaller.reply
From what I could gather, black holes aren't in the order of magnitude that's relevant here.reply
The center may not be any single object, but rather the average center of many objectsreply
I believe the most common theory is that it is a massive cluster of antimatterreply
Nah it’s OPs mom Gottemreply
It could be. But a large mass (or a large collection of many masses) is the simplest explanation that fits in with everything we know about it, and doesn’t require inventing new phenomena.reply
The good news, our galaxy rotates. So in about 125 million years we'll be on the other side ofnthe galaxy and can get a better look.reply
I'm marking my calendar now!reply
Just... re...member that you're standing on a planet That's evolving and revolving at 900 miles an hour. It's orbiting at 90 miles a second, so it's reckoned, a sun is the source of all our power. The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see, are moving at a million miles a day, in an outer spiral arm at 40 thousand miles an hour, of the galaxy we call the Milky Way. Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars, it's a hundred thousand light years side to side. It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand light years thick, but out by us, it's three thousand light years wide. We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point, we go round every two hundred million years. And our galaxy is only one of millions and billions in this amazing and expanding universe. The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding in all of the directions it can whiz, As fast as it can go, the speed of light, you know, twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.reply
I'm a simple man. I see Monty Python, i upvote.reply
And then I had a panic attackreply
It's OPs mom.reply
Hey man, there's no need to bring a Great Old One into this.reply
It's approx. 0.23% the speed of light.reply
How many bananas per episode of friends are we talking?reply
It is our duty as americans to do anything possible to avoid using the metric system.reply
We’re not hosting an intergalactic kegger down here.reply
Edgar your skin is hanging off your bonesreply
Euurrggaaahhhuhhhhhhh…a man came in here earlier. A dead man. A very dear friend of mine. I believe he had an animal with him. A pet cat. Means worlds to me.reply
I don't like this response because I'm afraid of how large space is, and would like something more "calming", please and thank you. Yes, I am an American, so you can tailor your response to that. I've seen 'When the Wind Blows", so it's dodgy if you can scare me into submission...but *I'm encouraging you to try if you feel it's important*.reply
Imagine the universal scale-of-size, with one end being the size of the whole observable universe, and the other side being one unit of planck length (the smallest we can measure before physics stops allowing 'measuring length' to be a thing you can do.) The median size on that scale is about the size of a human skin cell. When it comes to Things That Exist, you're actually significantly larger than the universal median size!reply
It's because I cut back on sweets. Thanks for noticing.reply
So... can we have your liver, then? /pythonreply
Here is a thing to think about: You're aware of the planets in our solar system, right? Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. You can put all of the planets side by side with a lot of breathing room between the planet Earth and its nearest cosmic buddy, the Moon. You can even fit Pluto in there. And include every person on this planet. And that's just the distance between the Earth and the Moon, with space to spare. As a side note, one trillion one dollar bills (USD) stacked end to end will make that trip between the Earth and the Moon about 10 times. Those asteroids floating around between Mars and Jupiter? It's not like the movies, you'll likely have a very difficult time trying to find one asteroid within 100,000 miles of another (most are on average about 600,000 miles or more away from the nearest asteroid). To put that into perspective, the Earth is less than 25,000 miles wide. So when you are finally on that trip to see the outer planets, be calm and rest assured that you probably won't even see an asteroid on your trip, much less crash into one.reply
I can give you a strange mix of terrifying and calming. Terrifying: The Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies are on a collision course, and will hit each other in about 5 billion years. Calming: There's so much open space in galaxies that it's virtually impossible for anything to physically collide. We're going to get hit with an entire galaxy, and the only thing that's going to change is the amount of stars you can see in the sky. Terrifying again: That doesn't matter though, because the sun is going to explode before the galactic merger.reply
The timescales for the growth and motion of galaxy clusters don't allow for effects like turbulence to contribute to the bulk movement of galaxies. Things at that size move because of gravity and so something must be acting gravitationally on those objects. There probably is turbulence in the intra-cluster medium but I doubt that is influencing the bulk movement of the galaxies.reply
Our Galaxy will cross paths / pass through / merge with Andromeda long before we even come close to approaching the Great Attractor. Our Sun would also likely be a white dwarf at that point. At the current speed with which we’re being drawn towards the great attractor it would take ~64 billion years. Which is over 4x the estimated age of the universe. But we wouldn’t actually “get there” (not that it’s a destination to arrive at) because the universe is expanding at a rate faster than our attraction.reply
A couple of decent answers to your question, but here is the Laymen's Explanation, addressing why it *shouldn't* be what you proposed: Any and all "oscillations and turbulent effects" we know of on a cosmic scale; Supernova, pulsars, quasars. etc are all *outward* omitting phenomenon. A supernova explodes *out*, pulsars and quasars emit energy and radiation *out* The only thing (that we know of) that goes inward on a cosmic scale is gravity, and the only thing (that we know of) that causes gravity is mass. So if this thing *is* something besides a hyperdense body or grouping then we won't be able to really study it, because it will be the first singular cosmic phenomenon that effects us without sending things towards to us. Could it be something new? Sure. That new thing would fuck with our understanding of physics, really, *really* hard.reply
As big as space is, remember that on a logarithmic scale, a human body is much closer to the top than the bottom. Cosmically speaking, your mom is one of the larger structures in the universe.reply
Supercluster or dark matter. Heard about it in a sci-fi book that made it very interesting, the reality seems pretty unexciting overall.reply
What book?reply
One of the many books in the Xeelee Chronicles, couldn't recall exactly which one. Interesting series as a whole, books are individually hit or missreply
It pops up in a few of the Xeelee Sequence stories.reply
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Firereply
I just snorted very loud, thank youreply
Well thanks for reminding me to reread that!reply
It's...relative.reply
Ah well. I'm sure it'll be fine.reply
This here is the reason we're never going to encounter alien life. It definitely *exists*, space is simply too vast for us to be the only life out there, but by that same token it's far too big for us to ever actually meet any of it. People who are convinced the government is covering up alien contact simply don't understand *how fucking big* space is and how hard it defies all known laws of physics for any other life form to even *recognize we exist*, much less come to visit. Space is simply too fucking big for any two species to ever encounter each other unless they somehow actually evolve on different planets *in the same solar system*, which is itself so improbable it's very possible it hasn't actually happened anywhere.reply
It's big on the time axis too. Not only would two planets need to evolve life nearby in space, they'd also need to do so nearby in time. Little flashes of light in the void.reply
*grabs nearest towel*reply
I think my dad drove a Ford Prefect...reply
I’d tell you how big it is but by the time I finished it would have already like fucktoupled in sizereply
How far up/down from the galactic plan would we need to get to be able to see … whatever it is?reply
It's just a tighter clump of galaxies and whatnot. They were somewhere near each other, they started gathering up. Now that's a denser area that and galaxies further away starts moving towards that concentration rather than any other collection of mass, which in turn pulls other things etc. Now it's just huge and pulls *a lot* of stuff in that direction. Nothing more mysterious than that. And btw, Everything going towards The Great Attractor is what defines the Laniakea Supercluster.reply
It has to have mass or something that has the same behaviour as mass to cause this degree of gravity on this large of an area.reply
Wait, what? That’s fucking insanereply
Depends on your frame of reference. It's all relative.reply
[Relevant XKCD]([link removed]reply
Wildly relevant XKCD. Holy shit.reply
I almost didn't upvote this because it was at 42 upvotes. But I figured someone is gonna do it, may as well be me.reply
They tracked the movement of other galaxies in the local group by comparing red shift with CMB to determine that they're all being pulled to one single area somewhere in the zone of avoidance. I don't think there are really the kind of large scale turbulent effects that you would imagine as there isn't a constant medium in which we're all traveling. Gravity would be the closest thing to that and that's basically what this is, except turbulence wouldn't pull an entire local group towards one point. The going theory is a galactic filament (Norma Wall) or asuper dense cluster of galaxies (center of the Laniakea Supercluster, which we are a part of). Though the apparent mass isn't exactly agreed upon, some estimates put it at 1/10th of the previous estimates and attribute it to Malmquist bias. The CIZA project, which came up with these new estimates, did come to the conclusion that there is something called the Shapely attractor that lies beyond the Great Attractor and is still pulling us. We're being pulled somewhere, along with other galaxies in our local group, towards one direction. Really the point of contention is where that point is and how big it is. Either way there's something absolutely massive out there and it's probably a collection of galaxies. BUT it could also be some other thing we don't even know about. My mind goes to like three black holes orbiting each other, which would probably have other signs, though if it's far enough away we wouldn't be able to detect anything. Or some sort of dark matter structure we have yet to discover.reply
So roughly the size of Arnold Palmer’s penisreply
That’s about 70% as fast as we are moving around the sun currently.reply
Uuuuh noreply
Space is big - really really big. You just won’t believe how vastly mind-bogglingly big it is! You may think it’s a long walk down to the chemist, but that’s just peanuts to space!reply
700k/s = 1.56million mph for us Americans. And still cosmically ‘standing still’reply
"Well, actually.." The nearest star is our sun.reply
It's speculated to be a mass because gravity is a property of masses in the fabric of spacetime. There's really no other plausible explanation.reply
Pretty fast to us, but its distance to us is greater in scale so not fast enough to concern us for many generations. At the end of the day, humanity is kind of overdue for an extinction event anyway. I know we'd like to live and exist longer, and we're actively making efforts to figure out how to terraform other planets so that we can escape the impending extinction event, but I think we're grossly over-estimating our significance. I think we assume that we are entitled to the conservation of our species even though nature doesn't owe anyone anything. Although, we can fight to stay alive, nothing wrong with that. We should, actually, it's only evolutionary to try and preserve our species. Just a stupid thought.reply
Well, the speed of light is \~299,792 km/s, so it's about .2% the speed of light. Hope that clears it up! /sreply
I’ve often wondered if I were able to float in space a few feet to the side of the path of an oncoming asteroid… would I be able to notice it? It’s moving at around 65,000mph.reply
Light itself is agonizingly slow. I just wrote a short story on Writingprompts last night about the tyranny of fossil light: by the time you see it coming, it’s past tense and all you can do is hope that things went well until you see the outcome.reply
700km a second is about 1000 times the speed of a modern handgun bullet. A modern handgun bullet is about 1000 times the speed of an elderly person walking with a cane. But yeah, in space, it's fast but not crazy fast.reply
That’s a lot of black, which begs the question, how much more black can it get? None. None more black.reply
> We are traveling insanely fast as a whole This is a meaningless statement as velocity is entirely relative.reply
It takes me half an hour to walk to my local shop. That's really just peanuts compared to space, huh?reply
700km/sec =1,565,855.404 mi/hr so I dunno sounds kinda fast. But also slow.reply
> Space is bonkers bannas big From time to time, I like to visit [this site]([link removed] and remember myself how insignificant we all are.reply
And the Milky Way is gigantic relative to other galaxies.reply
Smaller than Andromeda though.reply
only in size they are about the same in massreply
It’s all relative.reply
In terms of the size of space, light at 300,000 km per second is staggeringly slow, but also the fastest thing that can exist. So 700 km a second is pretty fast compared to obects, but compared to space, it's ridiculously slow.reply
It depends what it's relative to. We don't feel velocity outside of accelerating, and speed relative to another object is only really important when the two are interacting (or moving at relativistic speeds, but then the relative speed is light)reply
I just started rewatching the anime Planetes and it does such a good job with this. One second a bolt is just floating there, then suddenly theres a shuttle that its approaching *way* too fast. [link removed]reply
It depends on your frame of reference 🌈 ⭐️reply
At 700 km/s, it would take ~400 years to travel 1 light-year. The Great Attractor is 150-250 million light years away. We'll probably be fine.reply
Same. Seen a video about the KT extinction iirc and it said the energy was something stupid like 400 septillion kilojoules, equivalent to however many nuclear bombs and TNT, and had it listed out with all the numbers in full form. After so many zeros, my frame of reference ceases to exist and it doesnt register anymorereply
For reference the speed of light is 299,792.5km/second. So it not super fast yet fast enough to be significant.reply
Men in Black?reply
Well, the speed limit is 300,000km per second. So 700km per second is practically stopped.reply
You got me thinking so i did some math. Earth is about 12700km diameter and 40000km circumference. Straight line through the core from one pole to the other is about 18 seconds. To travel to and from the same points over the surface is about 29 seconds. To get to the moon at that speed would take about 9 minutes and 10 seconds. To get there at the escape velocity of a rocket (11.2 km/s, straight line) would take almost 6 days, a ratio of about 1:1000 I ripped all my numbers from google and did the math on a calculator myself so take it with a grain of salt / check my workreply
Whenever I think about how vast space is I typically think about the distance between the sun and Earth. The speed of light is over 186,000 miles per second and it takes over 8 minutes for the light to travel from the Sun to Earth. So traversing at the speed of light it would take us 8+ minutes to travel the distance from here to the Sun. It really puts into perspective how far away things in our own solar system is from us, so I can’t even fathom just how far things are outside of it.reply
Anything less than 1% of the speed of light is slow on a cosmic scale.reply
This is why I belive time travel has (or will be) discovered, but will never be useful. Earth is travelling around the sun at 29.8km/second. The milky way is travelling through space at 600km/second. Congratulations! You just went back in time 1 minute! You are exactly where you were in space time. Earth is 1,040,400km away from you (not quite 3x the distance to the moon), and you suffer a terrible death in the vacuum of space. Time travel *may* be possible. Teleportation is not.reply
I always wondered how do they measure this. It's an empty space with no fixed reference. 700km/s respect to what? How do they know it's not the rest that it's moving towards us?reply
Look at the wall in front of you. Now imagine the wall is our galaxy, the Milky Way. There's a light beam released from one end towards the other end. It will reach its destination in about 100,000 years. Yes, with light speed.reply
Theres a 99.99% chance that the massive gravitational force in that area comes from the massive galaxy cluster in that exactly same directionreply
If you travelled at 700 kilometers per second, it would take about one minute to circle the world. It would take 10 minutes to reach the moon. 1.5 years to reach the edge of our solar system. 1900 years to reach our closest celestial neighbor (alpha centauri, 4.37 million light years away) 11 million years to reach the center of our own galaxy, the Milky Way. No need to worry.reply
You could fly around the equator in roughly 57 seconds.reply
The Milky Way is also surprisingly light for its size to be fairreply
Oscillations or turbulent effects in what? A mass? Then it's the same thing.reply
Our system of measurement are tailored to our scale, to some ridiculous extend. (Fahrenheit based on body temperature, the whole imperial system...)reply
So, it's kinda big?reply
It's also not a measure of acceleration. What sort of gravity pulls things at a fixed rate?reply
Maybe this can help [link removed]reply
It’s a new cologne, sex panther by Odionreply
Does it work every time?reply
60% of the time, yeareply
60% of the time, it works every timereply
I'm going to be honest with you, that smells like pure gasoline.reply
It stinnngssss the nostrilsreply
That... doesn't make sense.reply
That doesn't make sense.reply
I have to be honest, that smells like pure gasoline.reply
Stings the nostrils.reply
It smells like Bigfoot's dick.reply
Some people really like that though. Like magic markers.reply
it's got real bits of panther in it.. so you know it's good.reply
Gravity smells like that to some people.reply
Isn't it made with bits of real panther?reply
700km per second = 2,520,000 km per hour...reply
something else is just pulling at the fabric of our reality like a sheet, its finereply
That was my nick name too in high schoolreply
For your dashing good luck with romance, or for your astonishingly high mass?reply
Healthy mix of both!reply
A delightful reminder that we are ultimately a bunch of nothings.reply
Part of this is apparently now thought to be some influence of the recently identified Vela-Banzi supercluster (very large and very dense, reportedly) that is past the Milky Way's "zone of avoidance" (area that has been hard to see through) and approximately in the plane of our galaxy. There is probably more than just this supercluster. Edit: typo [link removed]reply
My understanding is it's not really an "Anomaly" But the location that is the center of mass for the supercluster of galaxies. The sum of the gravitational attraction of all galaxies in the supercluster result in all galaxies in said supercluster being attracted towards it. The same is true for our local group, which is of course within said Supercluster; the center of gravity of the local group is itself somewhere between the Milky Way and Andromeda, which are the two largest galaxies in said local group. This is why those two galaxies are heading towards each other. And, it goes in the *other* direction to; the 'Great Attractor', and all the supercluster group(s) that are attracted to it, are themselves being pulled towards The Shapley Attractor, with a center within the Shapley Attractor, which is thought to be the center of mass for an even larger shell of superclusters.reply
Isn't the Vela supercluster a candidate for it?reply
Darn Xeelee ruining the universe againreply
They'd let us use it if we'd play nice.reply
It’s me. My hips. Sorryreply
I thought that was just dark matter?reply
We can't know what it is, because we can't see through our own galactic disk.reply
Oh I seereply
Actually you don't...reply
You rightreply
Just to make it weirder is we'll never get there because space is expanding faster than we're being pulledreply
Isn't the Great Attractor *itself* being pulled in by something?reply
The Shapley Attractor. And yes it is pulling in the great Attractor. Im pretty sure we know what it is though. Its a massive concentration of galaxies.reply
The Greatest Attractor?reply
Or at least the *Greater Than* attractor.reply
Yeah, I recall reading that it's likely just the centre of mass of the Laniakea supercluster?reply
Man, I bet the night sky is so bright in the other side of the Milkyway.reply
It's just the universal drain hole, someone pulled the plugreply
I’ll just throw this out there but the size of space freaks me outreply
ÂŤ Galactic zone of avoidance. Âť finally a term to describe how much I want to hang out on Friday night after working the whole week.reply
This sint some huge mystery. It is a huge clump of matter.reply
I find the opposite discovery more creepy. On a very large scale, the universe resembles a network of galaxy superclusters connected to each other by filaments. The regions in between are aptly called voids and are almost empty, with barely any galaxies nor other mass inside. Some of these voids are truly massive, with diameters up to one billion lightyears. For reference, this is roughly 1% of the diameter of the entire observable universe.reply
*sigh* It's not that we "don't know what it is" - its purely the centre-of-mass of the galactic neighbourhood. Nothing has to *be there* for it to occur.reply
I know what it is, it's sexy! Those neanderthal venuses knew what they were talking about.reply
You mean per second squared? Km per second is velocity.reply
Ehh, my body will be long decomposed and forgotten before that happens.reply
When I was a kid in the 1970's, probably about 7 years old, I remember learning about a Supernova, and the remnant was the Crab Nebula. I read that the nebula was expanding about about 1000 miles an hour, and I had trouble sleeping, worrying about the Crab Nebula coming to get us!reply
Wait till I tell you the Great Attractor is being pulled by another attractorreply
That's just Darkseid's corpse.reply
Side note: if you're going to call something the "zone of avoidance", it should be a lot scarier than [the part of our sky we can't observe further than our own galaxy.] Can we pretend there's a monster behind there or something?reply
Why does space have to exist? Can't we just delete it the damn thing.reply
we'll be on the other side of the galaxy soon enough and should be able to see it just fine, thenreply
But I thought the universe was expanding? If something is drawing everything in, that's contracting.reply
Its not drawing everything in. It a more local area of space. Plus its *trying* to pull us in but the accelerated expansion of the universe ensures the space between us expands faster than we can cross it.reply
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but isn’t everything in the universe expanding, so how are galaxies getting closer? Are these two things just happening on a different scale?reply
Its more like its *trying* to pull us in but the accelerated expansion of the universe ensures the space between us expands faster than we can cross it. Its like a fish in a river. The expansion of the universe acts like a river pushing the fish *down*stream. But the gravity from the Great Attractor acts like the fish trying to swim *up*stream. The "river" of space is moving faster than the fish can swim, meaning this fish can never arrive upstream and is slowly being pushed away from it.reply
♫♫ The Neverending Stoooorrrryyyyyy!!!! ♫♫reply
I’m not religious but kinda sounds like it’s Godreply
It doesn't. Not when we know of bigger attractors. And we def know about *much* larger structures in the universe.reply
>We have no idea what it is, because we can't observe it Good news! Sooner or later we will be close enough to see it with the naked eye.reply
No we won’t. We will actually never reach it. Due to the expansion of space we are actually moving away from it, but our movement away is just 700 km/s slower than it would be without that attraction.reply
Dang. Another funny ruined be reality. :(reply
We were able to positively ID it earlier this year! Turns out it’s yo momma. …I’ll see myself out.reply
When they say 700km per second, this speed is relative to what?reply
To my anusreply
Last I remember the most likely explanation is some sort of supercluster right?reply
How certain are we that it it actually exists and isn't some artificial quirk of the math?reply
Probably your mom.reply
> The Great Attractor itself is moving towards the Shapley Attractor More like The Not So Great Attractorreply
Well I will agree that the Great Attractor *is* pretty damn great. It's my favourite attractor in fact! But Shapely is bigger, we have to admit.reply
It's the drainreply
Sorry if this is a dumb question, my background is in biochemistry not physics, but since its gravitational attraction is acceleration shouldn't its effect be measured in km/s/s? In which case is the 700 figure the measured current speed (i.e. km/s) or the measured acceleration (km/s/s)?reply
Didn't it turn out to just be the center of mass for our galactic supercluster?reply
Something unplugged the sink. We’re going down with the rest of nothing important.reply
Yes pleasereply
Is that just a giant black hole?reply
All things serve the Beamreply
It’s even scarier when you find out that an even LARGER force is pulling it as well. The Shapley Supercluster is hungry.reply
I thought everything was spreading out? My brain is having a hard time consolidating that and accelerating towards a mass.reply
This always confused me so if the Great Attractor is pulling everything in and Dark Matter is pulling everything away from each other how are the two coexisting or not just cancelling each other out? How can it we are getting pulled towards the GA and Dark Matter is spreading things thin at the same time?reply
This sounds cool, what subreddits would I join for similar tidbitsreply
If the theory that our universe is inside an enormous black hole is true, maybe The Great Attractor is the singularity?reply
it really doesreply
This is what I wanted to say Shit sounds like something out of frigging no sleep.reply
Isn’t it just the Norma supercluster?reply
He thought it was funny as hellreply
Beat me to it. Mindboggling.reply
So it’s Unicronreply
It’s just the flow of membranes moving our spacetimereply
We should send a middle school science teacher to go check it out and find a way to make it stop.reply
Super Super Massive Black Hole.reply
Also they can open a portal to the chaos realm when they feel thratened and use it to escapereply
I've got video of one doing this. Well, it was during a flood and I'm filming the creek when I notice something floating down stream. It looked like a stick so I followed it with the camera. I took a step to get a better angle and this 'stick' all of a sudden disappeared. I had to look at the video to confirm it was actually a platypus diving.reply
They produce all the required ingredients to make their own custard.reply
Oh my godreply
Frozen Custard > Ice Cream Fight me.reply
What’s funny is this was not known when Perry the Platypus was created.reply
Do horseshoe crabs nextreply
> Platypi This is not the correct plural of platypus. Words beginning plural by changing -ua to -i only applies to words derived from Latin. Platypus drives from Greek, meaning "flat foot". Pusc is the Greek word for foot, and the plural is "podes." So you could say "platypodes." And since it's a loan word in English, English grammar also applies, so you could say platypuses. Platypi is incorrect, and for the same reason "octopi" is also incorrect.reply
Pretty sure it’s platypussies - not like you’ve ever gotten any, you fuckin word nerdreply
Holy shit lolreply
I’m sharing with. Cause I had the same reaction. Fascinating platypus knowledge turns into a etymology lesson turns into a platypussy burn from the top rope. I mean… why else do we scroll so deep lol.reply
I literally just showed it to my friend. Now we’re both giggling.reply
Burnreply
My god the real gold is always in the commentsreply
Goddamn this took me by surprise. Im dying laughing.reply
That's funny coming from a reddit modreply
Yes. The plural of octopus is octopuses (octapodes is also correct but nobody says that). Also fun fact: the plural of uterus is uteri or uteruses. Both are correct.reply
I will now. And look down at the uncultured dorks saying octopi like the unread peasants they are. And I was. But they won’t know that.reply
FWIW I say octopodes because it’s a freaking awesome word, and then when people ask me what I just said I get to explain why octopi is wrong.reply
Pretty sure Phineas and Ferb taught me it was platypeople!reply
And I can't help but pronounce it Oc-top-oh-dees, like it's some kind of 8 armed Greek demigod XDreply
Oc-top-oh-DEEZ NUTSreply
Platiples.reply
Platypodes is an option? My day just got immeasurably better for knowing this! I knew everything in the list except the chromosomes. I love them so much, and the way they love scritches just makes me love them even more!reply
There is a Webster’s grammarian that would like a word with you … also I finally have a use for this link! [link removed]reply
I was hoping someone would say thisreply
Actually currently the plural of octopus can be one of three words Octopus Octopod Octopi Sometimes the language changes to fit what people are already doingreply
> Octopi It's still wrong.reply
We have a bona-fide platypus expert here. Thanks for all the additional fun platy-facts!reply
You're welcome! I have no real expertise but I do have autism!reply
And we are lucky enough to have them in a creek about 200 metres from our house on the edge of suburban Gold Coast, Australia.reply
>The platypus has TEN sex chromosomes, so male platypus are XY XY XY XY XY. This means they are extra seXY.reply
Omg don’t let that weird ass Musk guy in on this joke. He’s gonna make a line of products or offspring revolved around damn platypuses.reply
Show him the platypus pronouns chart, that'll put him right off.reply
Just don't mention sea lions.reply
Why?reply
I knew some of those wordsreply
thank you for the laugh. i needed itreply
My toddler seems to have those cheek things too.reply
Guinea pigs don't have cheek pouches, you're thinking of hamsters.reply
You're right, my bad.reply
They eat bacon and dance the Volta.reply
Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of the platypus?reply
Just an autistic person with an extremely niche special interest. (It took me until my late 30s to be diagnosed, which is also pretty weird.)reply
Instead of a radioactive/mutant spider, imagine the fucked-up superpowers you'd get from a platypus bite...reply
between Platypi, the smooth-brained, chlamydia riddled morons which are Koalas, I think Australia is just plain weird.. And don't get me started on dropbears...reply
> This suggests that there was separate, convergent evolution in monotremes and other mammals. To be clear, are you saying that monotremes and other mammals independently evolved mammary glands, fur, and whatever other mammalian characteristics I'm forgetting? So would that mean monotremes and birds share a more recent common ancestor than monotremes and other mammals? That sounds super wildreply
I hadn't known those facts, but if I'm understanding correctly, it means monotremes shouldn't be considered mammals at all. Otherwise, mammals would be a polyphyletic group, which would lose a lot of value as a scientific term (although still be a perfectly valid common use term, like "worm").reply
Be careful with calling claims on the internet “facts”. Monotremes are mammals and the main characteristics are ancestral.reply
No, that’s certainly not the case. Monotremes are mammals, and mammary glands etc are ancestral to them. > So would that mean monotremes and birds share a more recent common ancestor than monotremes and other mammals? That sounds super wild That’s not the case. I think parent is saying that *some* features evolved convergently.reply
That. They're definitely mammals, but took a different road to get certain features.reply
Not just the platypus, the echidna too. Which implies monotremes in general may all have been that way.reply
Its fascinating how early monotremes seemed to have split off the the rest of mammals. That one pocket of an otherwise extinct body plan basically kept quietly chugging along while their therian mammal counterparts exploded into thousands. Absolutely insane.reply
Ok. I’m sure I’m missing some internet joke… but why am I fighting platypuses?reply
Because you’re a pharmacistreply
It’s the natural order of thingsreply
> spiky anteater spiny anteaterreply
What the hell, man?reply
Listen, they're just doing their thing. It just so happens that their thing is real weird.reply
They are lactating?!reply
They sweat milk.reply
so they don't have nipples?reply
Great facts here! In even more mind-bending news, in 2020, it was found that platypodes exhibit biofluorescence, meaning their fur absorbs UV light and then re-emits the light as part of the visible spectrum, making them appear to glow a bright blue/green hue. This only occurs when the species is exposed to UV light, but what a fascinating discovery! So help me, if anything is alien to this planet, it has to be the platypus.reply
so they're half mammal, half birdreply
45% mammal 45% bird 10% reptilian and I'm willing to bet it's also peppered with cephalopod we just haven't figured that out yetreply
As extra bonus pedantry, it's platypodes or platypuses, not platypi. For exactly the same reason as octopusreply
Also, the technically correct and pedantic plural is platipodes. Like octopodes.reply
Thought I was getting rickrolled. Quite happy with this instead. Thank you.reply
A platypus comment?reply
A PERRY the Platypus comment?!reply
Curse you Perry the Platypus comment!reply
A "dooby dooby dooba, dooby dooby dooba.. AGENT P" commentreply
That's just the malesreply
I have a lot of things I wish I could forget, platypus information will never be one of them.reply
Corporations are a platypusreply
The government's a platypusreply
Your teacher is a platypusreply
My teacher is a panda!reply
Gonna get a bit *Ackchyually*, but a platypus doesn’t have a “duck bill” — ducks basically evolved a **platypus‑adjacent** bill way later. The platypus bill is soft, leathery, and packed with electroreceptors, not a hard keratin beak. Same with the “beaver tail” thing — beavers are the newcomers here. It’s all convergent evolution, not borrowed parts. And their traits aren’t *“primitive,”* they’re **basal mammalian** — meaning closer to what our earliest mammalian ancestors had. Their lineage just stuck with the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” approach and kept the features that worked.reply
I genuinely appreciate the expansion and explanation of that. I just summarized it as that, just as "furry beaver tail" does not mean it is like a beaver tail in much more than general appearance like you say. It was mainly descriptive.reply
Oh yeah, I got what you meant! I just have a soft spot for monotremes. They’re always framed as a mash‑up of other animals, when in reality *they’re the template*, not the remix. They’ve been doing their electroreceptive, egg‑laying, venom‑spur thing since before ducks or beavers were even concepts. Honestly, I almost linked the Ze Frank monotreme videos because they hit that perfect “chaotic humor + real biology” combo that makes people go, “Wait… that’s actually true?”reply
Today I learned 3 new things about them!reply
Bonus bonus fact: they make excellent secret agents. (Sorry don't have anything other than PnF references to add here)reply
And have venom, like a scorpion.reply
> electroreception Sharks have that too!reply
I don't know if I would call these "corrections", but I want to point out two things, that in animals testosterone is produced in females by the ovaries and the adrenal glands, and by males in the testes and the adrenal glands. This is true for humans and other mammals, birds, fish, amphibians, and reptiles. And what platypodes and some other animals have for sensing weak electrical fields should probably properly be called *hyper*electroreception, as humans and likely most animals can obviously sense strong electrical fields.reply
Important fact (if you find yourself in a position where you are about to pick up a male platypus), the venom is located in spurs at each rear foot.reply
Learned that from natural habitat - *what does blue mean?* [link removed] Unfortunately, can’t figure out how to directly link to their site that *has* the actual animal facts [link removed]reply
Also they are quite small, about half grown cat size.reply
Don’t they also glow in uv light?reply
They vote blue?!reply
Who knows?! However, they glow green under UV light.reply
so that's 4 orders past our galaxy. nicereply
Learning about the universe truly is an amazing combination of awe and scare.reply
“Galactic zone of avoidance” Found a new name for my bedroom.reply
they did an experiment on rats - they replaced a portion of the blood with that of younger rats. as a result, the rats started acting younger - real vampire vibes. then another researcher replicated it, but with saline. same/similar results. inference: old animals have kidneys that are less effective, and both experiments functioned by removing cruft that the kidneys didn't. your dialysis sounds like a similar mechanism - inject clean fluid, let it accumulate cruft, flush it.reply
Hey choomreply
That is a sad effect of making sure medical supply lines are well regulated. After my mom passed, we had a ton of medical supplies and equipment that would be so useful to someone else in need, but even working with local groups, the vast majority of it went in the trash. Basically, if it's something that's only available by doctors prescription, they can't legally take it and give it to someone else, even if they also get a prescription. For example, you can get a prescription for a walking cane so insurance pays for it, but the cane itself does not require a prescription, you can just go buy one whenever. You can donate/sell the cane to someone else. My mom had a special lift that is not sold to the general public without a prescription. It was a $20,000 lift that was a literal lifesaver, and any family living with someone with severe mobility problems would love to have it. It would have been a crime to resell it or donate it as a medical device.reply
Sure would be a shame if you found someone who needed it, then accidentally falls off your truck into their yard as you take it to the dump.reply
My DAD was on PD before he had complications (small tears were causing fluid intrusion to his lungs) the amount of boxes of fluids was insane. He would have fluid added while he slept so the lengthy time was mostly missed. Now he is on traditional Dialysis 3x a week. Not so fun fact- Hurricane Helene damage in NC created a huge shortage of saline bags- including PD supplies- that has since been remedied but it was stressful for awhile.reply
My mom was a PD patient for over 5 years until she passed away early this year. Hurricane Helene definitely made a huge mess to PD supplies. They had to fill the gap with product from other countries for a while. Glad hemo is still working for your dad!reply
suposedly for an animal like a fly, we move really slowly cause they have superfast reflexes...on the other hand if we move even slower when getting close to them they just assume we've always been there and the zapreply
I vividly remember watching a video where a guy was igniting flammable gasses and recording them in extreme slow motion, watching the burn progress through the pocket of gas. In one of the clips, a fly comes into frame, the spark happens, and you can literally see the fly go "NOPE" and completely reverse direction out of frame.reply
I want to feel that. Hope we can get Sandevistan implants soon.reply
get moderately good at martial arts. part of the skill is learning when to wait for your opponent's mistake to progressreply
how can I do this without putting in any effort though?reply
But my cyberpunk fancy implantsreply
PSA: Donating a kidney puts you and a small list of your loved ones at the top of the list for receiving a donated kidney, if someday you need one. You have two kidneys, but a lot of diseases which cause kidney failure will affect both kidneys at once. So by donating a kidney, it's almost like you're keeping a back up kidney safe somewherereply
It sort of makes sense. Our brains are large and signals need to bounce around. A fly is small so it could make decisions quickly. Which helps when you fly around like an idiot.reply
Does this concept apply to smaller humans with faster metabolisms? Like children experience time more slowly than adults? And how did we discover this?reply
I think that has more to do with frame of reference. Children experience time more slowly because any given amount of time is a larger portion of their of their total perceived experience. As the perception of time moves forward that same amount of time will become a smaller and smaller fraction of their overall experience. For example, the idea of 1 year to a 5 year old child is 20% of their entire existence. To a 50 year old adult 1 year is only 2%. It's why we feel like time speeds up as we get older.reply
This is called the logarithmic time perception effectreply
This fun fact triggered a midlife crisis in me when I was a teenager because I thought my life was perceptionally half over and I still try not to think about it. But the last ten years have felt pretty long so it hasn't been too badreply
I think Vsauce did a video on this which goes a bit more in depth into what [account] was explainingreply
And of course, it came from Australia.reply
They have poisonous spurs!!!reply
Venomous\*reply
Not scientific, but you ever wonder why a dog acts like it's been a week since it saw you when you get home from work?reply
A better non-scientific representation would be mosquitos and flies dodging your attempts to swat themreply
Is that experiencing time slower or just having quick reflexes? Or I guess another way to say it, does that mean a person with quick reflexes experiences time slower than someone with slow reflexes?reply
I think the platypus is about the only evidence of a god. It really seems like there was a bucket of leftover animal parts and someone just said "who cares, just throw it all together so I can be done making animals!"reply
Life, uh, finds a wayreply
God got high just before making Australia.reply
Pretty sure Australia was when God was in his emo phasereply
I love that thought! Ugh… milk..nd eggs..ugh!! Fur and …venom?…kkkkkwe got this…tadahhh. aaand done 👍🏼 beer time.reply
The platypus is an argument against both evolution and intelligent design. It doesn't seem possible for such a bizarre assortment of characteristics to have evolved naturally, yet whatever was doing the designing doesn't deserve the title "intelligent."reply
That's the māori myth of the kiwireply
Reading the comment above with all the platypus facts - I think they may have been vibe coded.reply
I've always felt they are incomplete. No insect bits. If they had dragon fly wings I think they would be perfect.reply
More like God was stoned and was all "Fuck it, make it a mammal that lays eggs. There done!"reply
It's been a while since I've leafed through the collections but I think there's a Far Side cartoon to this effect.reply
Or .. hear me out… they got drunk.reply
We display a calendar that shows it's Friday, and give them wristwatches set at five minutes to the end of work day. Then we count how many times they check the watch in the next five minutes.reply
It is so unfortunate- went through similar when my Dad was moved to regular Dialysis.reply
It is a wonderful technology. Much more gentle on the human body than hemo dialysis. Utilized by cool and simple science of diffusion-passive movement of molecules from an area of high concentration (blood), to an area of lower concentration (abdominal cavity filled with water), using the abdominal cavity linings large surface area to be an effective filter. Kind of like dunking a tea bag in water. So simple, and life savingreply
Like a hummingbird rightreply
Yep, or a shrew, whose metabolisms are so fast they can starve to death in a couple of hours.reply
I do that as wellreply
Wait until you see it use its pretensile tail to carry shit [[link removed]reply
I always wondered about that. Some species of bugs only live a few days, but I wonder if it feels like a century to them.reply
Okay, WHY does it need to contain dextrose?reply
The whole thing works by osmosis, you need a lower concentration of water in the solution to draw water out of the body. The sugar is to lower the water concentration.reply
Why couldn’t it be, like, salt? Why does it have to be sugar?reply
There's also a shitload of salt in the solution. Adding more salt would cause the patient to pick up salt rather than have excess salts filtered outreply
Then they should use a polymer incapable of passing through tissues but which does "dilute" the water. In principal, little water would be needed, but something like a near-saturated solution of methyl cellulose could work. That polymer would probably create a solution too viscous, but there may well comparable oligomers that would not increase the viscosity as much. Make a solution that is "isotonic" in all important salts, but only when that is calculated versus the entire volume of the fluid. Make up much of the fluid with biologically inert materials.reply
There are actually different types and concentrations of dialysate based on the type of dialysis and the patient. Although it would be awesome if more work was done on it to create more options. I'm still hoping they make significant progress on artificial kidneys in the next decade before I end up needing a transplant.reply
The most deadliest bug on earth.reply
Bro imagine waiting on a doctor's appointment and not being able to turn that shit off 😬reply
This one is fine for me. Do you remember how long childhood was?reply
When I compare my last 20 years with my first 20 years? It's not even close.reply
[What about how they shake their back leg like a dog when you scratch their bellies?]( [link removed]reply
This is probably why my much shorter wife takes way longer to get ready than I do.reply
they can sing and prefer Burgundy over Bordeauxreply
apparently when first encountered by English and sent back as a taxidermy, they were dismissed as hoax for a very long whilereply
A platypus was also a fatality involving a German U-boat. Winston Churchill wanted a pet platypus, and one was sent from Australia in 1943. Four days before reaching Liverpool, the ship was struck by a German U-boat. The boat survived, but the platypus did not. Churchill kept the stuffed animal on his desk. (I happened to listen to an episode of "Conversations" by Richard Fidler today with Jack Ashby, it was super interesting and loads more platypus facts)reply
TBF, that is one weird ass animal.reply
I've heard of lots of anecdotal evidence (not sure if there are papers) of people recounting heightened states, like live fire combat, feeling much more slow. Someone had made the analogy that the adrenaline and hyper focus sort of increases the "framerate" of your perception, so it feels as if everything is moving slower.reply
Could just be jet lag?reply
If you want a really interesting book about scaling laws and how they affect different species, check out Scale by Geoffrey West.reply
Fun fact the platypus house at the Melbourne Zoo is called The Platypusaryreply
Try to catch a fly with one handreply
What the hell does it feel like?!reply
The site was constantly irritated due to tape & gauze that covered the tube coming out of my stomach. And the weight of the extra fluid was a pain in the ass when bending over, so think of eating the biggest meal you've ever had with major bloating. But when it was draining between exchanges, it legit felt like peeing after holding your bladder for too long lolreply
Could you feel it sloshing around inside of you!?reply
Walking from one room to another, no, even though you notice the weight difference immediately. But almost any other movement, 100% felt it. Extremely odd feeling!reply
This sounds like a left over evolutionary detritus from back before kidneys evolved, so flushing out impurities was the only solution.reply
Swordfish can overclock their eyes to perceive more frames per minute. Their prey views life at 3 to 6 frames per second. This is a real life example of more fps = more kills.reply
I sincerely doubt anything with a nervous system is perceiving things at 3-6 "frames" per **minute**. And FWIW the "FPS" terminology isn't a very good descriptor, it's more like the minimum amount of time it takes to notice a change in perception. It's still a completely continuous input.reply
It's something you can experience already. I've experienced it in video games that required precise timing. At first I'd be too slow to get the timing right, then at some point I'd hit the sweet spot and be fast enough with my natural reflexes, then at some point I'd surpass the timing and would have to purposely slow myself down. It's especially noticeable in rhythm games where you go up in intensity. As you go up in intensity you naturally get faster. Then when you go back a few levels you've already done it can take some getting used to to get the timings right because you'd go from barely being able to hit the timings, to being able to easily hit the timings.reply
or, i guess, playing any instrument. don't want to be late, don't come in early, and rushed notes sound badreply
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two headed spiny penisreply
How about a normal platypus joke? And then someone can put a fedora on it and we all get to do the thing.reply
Don't forget Fantastic Mr. Fox. [link removed]reply
How many days does a tonne of fluid last? Is it special fluid or just like, lighter fluid or brake fluid? Is the pallet mostly packaging?reply
It's mostly salty water. It's like clear piss that you inject yourself with, then it absorbs toxins and becomes more like regular piss, that you then eject from the body.reply
I was being funny, I'm aware of osmotic gradients and urea. I guess it's engineered extracellular fluid, targeted at pulling from passive transmembrane proteins? So like, is it lighter fluid or power steering fluid?reply
im confused. surely someone has captured an animal with rabies, sent it a sample of it to some scientists to confirm. they put it in some database. then when someone comes in with rabies-like symptoms, they check to see if they really have it, and when its confirmed they use the vaccine? or is it not possible to "see" the virus and they just give the patient the vaccine?reply
So the reason you're supposed to just immediately go and get treatment if there was a bat or something the could have bit you is that by the time you show symptoms it's too late. A nice chilling fact is: "You receive rabies treatment (Post-Exposure Prophylaxis or PEP) before symptoms appear because once symptoms develop, the disease is nearly 100% fatal"reply
And not many people know its not just one injection and you're done, nope, it's 4 over the course of a month all at different Intervals too. Source: I had to get the pep vaccines almost a year ago after being bitten by a bat in the middle of a city in the UK.reply
I'm just glad its not 20 in the stomach anymore. I heard that was terrible and the new way is a lot better.reply
ah. im guessing its not practical to look at the patient's blood vs just giving the PEP. makes cents.reply
It's not spreading in your blood, it's in your nerves!reply
im guessing that makes it harder to detect or something?reply
If you don't vaccinate your dog and it bites someone, to know for sure it's rabid they would have to cut off its head and examine its brain tissue. The rabies virus works by moving up the nervous system to the brain, and that's where it starts being active and spreading. It's why you're fucked once rabies symptoms actually start presenting. It's already in your brain at that point. It's also why a vaccine post rabies exposure works, when that would be too late for most other diseases. It can take long enough to get to the brain through your nervous system that the triggered immune response from the vaccine has time to work.reply
Rabies Copypasta: Rabies. It's exceptionally common, but people just don't run into the animals that carry it often. Skunks especially, and bats. Let me paint you a picture. You go camping, and at midday you decide to take a nap in a nice little hammock. While sleeping, a tiny brown bat, in the "rage" stages of infection is fidgeting in broad daylight, uncomfortable, and thirsty (due to the hydrophobia) and you snort, startling him. He goes into attack mode. Except you're asleep, and he's a little brown bat, so weighs around 6 grams. You don't even feel him land on your bare knee, and he starts to bite. His teeth are tiny. Hardly enough to even break the skin, but he does manage to give you the equivalent of a tiny scrape that goes completely unnoticed. Rabies does not travel in your blood. In fact, a blood test won't even tell you if you've got it. (Antibody tests may be done, but are useless if you've ever been vaccinated.) You wake up, none the wiser. If you notice anything at the bite site at all, you assume you just lightly scraped it on something. The bomb has been lit, and your nervous system is the wick. The rabies will multiply along your nervous system, doing virtually no damage, and completely undetectable. You literally have NO symptoms. It may be four days, it may be a year, but the camping trip is most likely long forgotten. Then one day your back starts to ache... Or maybe you get a slight headache? At this point, you're already dead. There is no cure. (The sole caveat to this is the Milwaukee Protocol, which leaves most patients dead anyway, and the survivors mentally disabled, and is seldom done). There's no treatment. It has a 100% kill rate. Absorb that. Not a single other virus on the planet has a 100% kill rate. Only rabies. And once you're symptomatic, it's over. You're dead. So what does that look like? Your headache turns into a fever, and a general feeling of being unwell. You're fidgety. Uncomfortable. And scared. As the virus that has taken its time getting into your brain finds a vast network of nerve endings, it begins to rapidly reproduce, starting at the base of your brain... Where your "pons" is located. This is the part of the brain that controls communication between the rest of the brain and body, as well as sleep cycles. Next you become anxious. You still think you have only a mild fever, but suddenly you find yourself becoming scared, even horrified, and it doesn't occur to you that you don't know why. This is because the rabies is chewing up your amygdala. As your cerebellum becomes hot with the virus, you begin to lose muscle coordination, and balance. You think maybe it's a good idea to go to the doctor now, but assuming a doctor is smart enough to even run the tests necessary in the few days you have left on the planet, odds are they'll only be able to tell your loved ones what you died of later. You're twitchy, shaking, and scared. You have the normal fear of not knowing what's going on, but with the virus really fucking the amygdala this is amplified a hundred fold. It's around this time the hydrophobia starts. You're horribly thirsty, you just want water. But you can't drink. Every time you do, your throat clamps shut and you vomit. This has become a legitimate, active fear of water. You're thirsty, but looking at a glass of water begins to make you gag, and shy back in fear. The contradiction is hard for your hot brain to see at this point. By now, the doctors will have to put you on IVs to keep you hydrated, but even that's futile. You were dead the second you had a headache. You begin hearing things, or not hearing at all as your thalamus goes. You taste sounds, you see smells, everything starts feeling like the most horrifying acid trip anyone has ever been on. With your hippocampus long under attack, you're having trouble remembering things, especially family. You're alone, hallucinating, thirsty, confused, and absolutely, undeniably terrified. Everything scares the literal shit out of you at this point. These strange people in lab coats. These strange people standing around your bed crying, who keep trying to get you "drink something" and crying. And it's only been about a week since that little headache that you've completely forgotten. Time means nothing to you anymore. Funny enough, you now know how the bat felt when he bit you. Eventually, you slip into the "dumb rabies" phase. Your brain has started the process of shutting down. Too much of it has been turned to liquid virus. Your face droops. You drool. You're all but unaware of what's around you. A sudden noise or light might startle you, but for the most part, it's all you can do to just stare at the ground. You haven't really slept for about 72 hours. Then you die. Always, you die. And there's not one... fucking... thing... anyone can do for you. Then there's the question of what to do with your corpse. I mean, sure, burying it is the right thing to do. But the fucking virus can survive in a corpse for years. You could kill every rabid animal on the planet today, and if two years from now, some moist, preserved, rotten hunk of used-to-be brain gets eaten by an animal, it starts all over. So yeah, rabies scares the shit out of me. And it's fucking EVERYWHERE. (Source: Spent a lot of time working with rabies. Would still get my vaccinations if I could afford them.)reply
Had to learn about this in school on a paper on pigeons, very interesting.reply
Makes sense considering how strange they'd be to look at compared to anything science was familiar with at the time! Some Dreamtime stories tell that the platypus was born from a mother duck and father water rat, so even our First Nations peoples found them an interesting mix. Plus it would've been much harder to verify that they existed back then since they're shy and nocturnal/crepsular. I grew up in country Australia and have only ever seen a platypus in the wild once!reply
Is this what gives rise to the whole "1 human year is 7 dog years"?reply
Makes me think of the Dust short [Final Offer]([link removed]reply
This applies to every creature of any size. I’m 6’ 5” and I experience the world about 0.000000000001% faster than a baby who is close to the ground.reply
The ultimate killing machine.reply
With shorter lifespans that may seem (to them) as longreply
Relevant Oatmeal: [link removed]reply
Was so curious to know where are they found - of course Australiareply
One of my favourite oatmealreply
Can you throw him in for humanity’s sake?reply
Sometimes called thumb-splitters by hobbyists -- for obvious reasons.reply
Tell that to my middle finger.reply
That's amazing those rings don't look a day older than 450 million years to me.reply
Sunscreen!reply
Well yes sharks as a species, but I think he's talking about specific sharksreply
Greenland sharks.reply
"I swear, she was only 180 !"reply
Correct - at minimum, you need to line the bottom of the aquarium with acrylic to shield it. But even better is just get an aquarium entirely made of acrylic instead.reply
And they STILL did nothing to prevent the first, second, and third reich.reply
A bit unfair to blame them for the first reich, the Holy Roman Empire had already stood for 700 years by 1550reply
What did you expect from a sharkblamer?reply
What have they even been doing?reply
Somewhere deeper in the ocean, there are things we can't even imagine. We literally know more about the surface of Mars than we know of the ocean floors on our own planet.reply
And they're blind due to parasites :[reply
At least they don't get schizophrenia.reply
No, they were not born blind, so they can still be schizos tooreply
Love it.reply
A whole lineup of creatures simply has no feature of aging towards death. Which also points to a fact that evolutionarily, automatically dying at some point is kind of a feature (or at the very least it's not a bother to select against)reply
> A whole lineup of creatures simply has no feature of aging towards death. IIRC Lobsters are biologically immortal, and only die because they get so large that the energy the gain from eating can't keep up with the energy needed to hunt or molt. So they eventually either starve to death or suffocate to death.reply
Yeah, quite a number of species has that: [[link removed]reply
For anyone interested in how 〔fast aging〕 likely came to be, here's a good YouTube video by a science channel explaining it: [PBS Eons - How Dinosaurs May Have Cursed Us With Aging]([link removed]reply
Keep in mind that's only the Peackock Mantis Shrimp (Odontodactylus scyllarus.) They're the big colorful ones - get about 6-7 inches long. I've kept much smaller mantis shrimp before - one was a Caribbean Rock Mantis (Neogonodactylus wennerae) that was only about 1.5" long. Her punch felt like a very young toddler trying to flick me with their finger. The other was a Purple Spotted Mantis (Gonodactylus smithii) that was about 3-4" long. His punch legitimately hurt, like someone whacking my hand at full strength with a small stick. But the Peacock Mantis is the big daddy with the mega hammers. It's *acceleration* is in line with a .22, but tops out at only 45-50 mph. Still exerts about 200 pounds of force, and could potentially break a finger bone or aquarium glass. They are very smart though and quickly learn to recognize the person who feeds them, so they typically hold back their punches and just swat you like a "get your hand away from my rocks" kind of wayreply
🎶The humans are dead ☠️reply
I thought that was a Conan reference but now I'm paranoid about poisonous gasses, so who knows.reply
You had it right. I’m just such a Jemaine Clement fan I forgot about Conan. Affirmative.reply
I, too, thought this aa Conan reference and am now disappointed. I'm off to YouTube Conan's year 2000 predictions for nostalgia's sake.reply
In the year 2525reply
If man is still alivereply
Reminds me of another one… after the Appalachian Mountains were formed, they weren’t covered with trees because they are older than treesreply
> Mantis shrimp's ... Also consider their eyes can see something like 13 additional wavelengths we can't... I.e We see red, green, and blue... they see RGB + 13 **other colours**.reply
iirc they don't perceive every shade of those wavelengths and a lot of similar ones get kind of grouped together into one colour for them, can't rember where I heard it and don't have a source though sorryreply
That really isn't much different from our red and green cone cells. Their spectra overlap considerably too, yet we consider ourselves (other than the colourblind) properly able to distinguish between them.reply
I read a whole study about this years ago. If I recall, they use all their cones to see color but the brains don't process it like ours Basically their eyes are doing all the work instead of their brains, which means sense, they're small invertebrates.reply
Side note: the ocean gate incident debris showed signs of scorching for this very reason. Plus boss man's jumper fragments were also found entwined in this tangled mess, meaning he literally became one with the machine. Sweet dreams kiddo 😘reply
Maybe it wasn't an implosion and was just a mantis shrimp punched itreply
I say this and no one ever knows what I’m referring to. This made my dayreply
There's at least three of us.reply
I'm under the impression that it's [sonoluminescence that produces light, not temperature itself]([link removed] Quoting: >The snap can also produce sonoluminescence from the collapsing cavitation bubble. As it collapses, the cavitation bubble emits a short flash of light with a broad spectrum. If the light were of thermal origin, a temperature of the emitter over 5,000 K (4,700 °C) would be required. In comparison, the surface temperature of the Sun is estimated to be around 5,772 K (5,500 °C). The light is of lower intensity than the light produced by typical sonoluminescence, and is not visible to the naked eye It is most likely a byproduct of the shock wave with no biological significance. However, this was the first known instance of an animal producing light by this effect. Subsequently, another group of crustaceans, the mantis shrimp, has been discovered to contain species whose club-like forelimbs can strike so quickly and with such force as to induce sonoluminescent cavitation bubbles upon impact.reply
So they reach puberty at 150, when do they reach their midlife crisis-sports car phase?reply
And eating a giant turkey legreply
Huzzah!reply
They didn’t have turkeys though since those are New World animals.reply
Sharks are older than Polaris (North Star)reply
For anyone curious, here's the video [link removed]reply
Nah. Sharks don't molest children.reply
So fascinatingreply
Sharks are *not* older than Keith Richards thoughreply
🟢🥸🎩🎤🟢reply
Bristlecone pine trees can get over 4000 years old. Sequoia trees 2000-3000.reply
Bristle cone.reply
How do we know thisreply
Because we keep killing them an examining their remains. We then examine the lens nucleus from their eyes using radiocarbon dating. The lens forms at an early date and contains proteins which are retained afterwards. Meaning they can be used to measure C14 decay.reply
And I thought an elephant’s gestation was long!reply
I thought you linked to something specific about toe sharks, but it was just an article about the idea of gestationreply
Now that’s poetryreply
It’s AI.reply
How bad would that hurt us? – Broken Bones – The extreme forces would easily fracture bones. Hands and feet would likely suffer multiple metacarpal, metatarsal, and phalange breaks similar to a car crash or stomping. – Blunt Force Trauma – Accelerative forces would cause severe bruising and hemorrhaging well beyond the impact site. Internal organs could be damaged. – Penetration Injuries – Spearer punches could penetrate and lacerate flesh. Hemorrhaging and infection risks would be high. – Hydrostatic Shock – The sudden, massive pressure wave through tissue could potentially damage nerves and blood vessels distant from the impact. – Loss of Limb Function – With a punch to an arm or leg, the traumatic damage to bones, muscles, and nerves would likely result in temporary if not permanent impairment of the limb. A full-force punch aimed at the head or torso has the potential to cause life-threatening injuries including skull fractures, brain hemorrhaging, ruptured organs, collapsed lungs, and major blood vessel damage. Multiple or continued strikes could be fatal.reply
Messed up [this guy’s foot]([link removed] through a neoprene bootie.reply
Thank God it was the foot and not... other places...reply
Yeah, this is reason #52 of why you probably shouldn’t immediately put something you pull out of the ocean directly on your kibbles and bits.reply
Lol. Yep. As a girl dad, I understand this! Haha. Edit: ok, no idea why I’m getting downvoted to shit here. I have had several baby girls and changed thousands of diapers and you don’t wipe out the inside of the vagina (unless there’s poop in there, which happens more than I knew). But short of that, you don’t wipe inside the vagina. It cleans itself. And you can cause more harm than good trying to clean it. Counterintuitive to us men, but these are the things you learn as a parent. I honestly didn’t know about vaginas being self cleaning until cleaning one was something I became responsible for.reply
Chuck Grassley remembers feeding them when they were babies.reply
Greenland shark, my friendreply
Okay but why did I picture the shark from Toy Story wearing Woody’s hat staying “Howdy howdy howdy!” When I tried to picture your shark? 👀reply
That’s EXACTLY what I picturedreply
Take me home, ocean roads!reply
I'm hoping the same for myself.reply
It’s amazing how we can know this.reply
the thing with vision facts like this is i try to imagine what that would look like but its impossible, like trying to imagine what green looks like through someone elses eyesreply
Ehhh… that’s debatable. If you read Steven Austad’s work—he’s a world leader in the longevity of species, author and researcher at Harvard—there is extraordinarily high uncertainty in the lifespans of these sorts of organisms. The public, and popular science magazines, tend to gloss over the reality of non-destructive sampling and assaying age in various species. The actual methodology gives us a reasonable way to guess at how old things are relative to other things that are similar, but there is an enormous amount of variability and uncertainty in results. We do know that sharks can live a long time, but we don’t know why mechanistically. He actually wrote an entire book that explains this, called “Methuselah’s Zoo.”reply
TIL Saturn's rings are more self-sufficient than I am.reply
I believe that yes, the pups are kept in the womb for 8-18 yearsreply
Does that mean sloths think they are moving at a reasonable pace and that everything else is moving at the speed of sound?reply
I think about this a lot. A gnat’s life is what, a day? And ours is drastically different, but to that gnat it probably felt like years. If I was the size of a mountain, would time move slower for me, or faster? Is it relative?reply
Don’t they get bored?reply
Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes.reply
I pictured a snobby shark saying, "I liked it before it was cool." LOLreply
Upping the Senator Mitch McTurtle jokes by a few hundred years, are we?reply
Upvote this comment until it is 1550. We're currently at 1519reply
Pulled from my dating profile.reply
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Damn teenagersreply
This is a great ad for becoming a donorreply
Unfortunately, if you're someone who will need a kidney later it's a bad idea to get rid of one even if you could. I have PKD and while I still have full kidney function both my kidneys and my liver are already full of cysts. No one wants my kidneys and I'm not inclined to share a defunct kidney. Although I am a donor for other parts my disease doesn't fuck up 👍reply
As was wearing an onion on your belt.reply
This makes me curious about whether it happened slower or is remembered slower? Perhaps the memory is recorded in a way that makes it feel slow when you remember it.reply
My dad did repurpose it for when he needed to move equipment or heavy tools around his shop (it's really convenient with it's tilt features and has a 500lbs weight limit). So, it didn't go to waste, but it's not helping a disabled person live a better life.reply
That’s the interesting thing about language. We know what you mean, which is correct, and yet you are completely wrong. The oldest tree is much older than the oldest shark. What you mean is, “sharks existed before trees”.reply
Semantics. There is an implicit ", as a species,' clause here which is fairly obvious.reply
And they taste terrible.reply
This was the answer to a question i asked to my father when i was a kid. Why does humans or bigger animals move slowly in the cartoons or movies from small bugs perspective.reply
IIRC some insect species perceive time up to 8 times slower than humans do.reply
Peak evolution.reply
I'm evolving right nowreply
What does zooming mean in this context?reply
To see something, you must bounce a "probe" (like a photon of light or an electron) off it. The smaller the object, the more energy that probe must havereply
CERN levels of energy.reply
There's also a bit of tragic reality that maybe we *are* the apex of consciousness/intelligence and the great filter prevents anything beyond. But that's depressing. I prefer to think someone out there has at least more of this nonsense figured out.reply
I also think the idea of existing, but never having had a begining, is a wild thought. We know the universe we're in exists simply because we're aware of it, but did it ever 'start'? The idea of the universe having always been is much harder for me to conceive than continuing forever is. Unless it did 'start' in which case why and how did existence spring from literally nothingreply
The concept of "starting" is somehow even more foreign to me. From what? How can you start without having being there?reply
It doesn’t make any sense. And there is a good chance science can’t answer this question, at least in the near future. The math is complex. The laws of cause and effect break down. The way I see it, some questions may be too big for us to answer. For the time being, we need to make peace with that fact.reply
> For the time being, we need to make peace with that fact. Tell that to my existential panic attackreply
Human’s height is closer to the diameter of the visible universe than the Planck length.reply
It's funny how quickly we run into the limits of our ability to visualise. Zero dimensions? No problem. Just imagine a single point. One dimension? Grab that point and stretch it. Congrats. You've got yourself a line. Two dimensions? Grab your line and stretch it in a new direction. Hurray, it's now a square. Three dimensions? Grab your square and stretch it in a new direction. You've got a cube. Four dimensions? Same thing. Grab your cube and stretch it in a new direction and it's a hypercube. The first few steps were easy but imagining things in 4d suddenly breaks the visualisation centres of my brain even if it makes perfect sense mathematically.reply
I know there's some complex nuances to it, but time as the 4th dimension was always the easiest way for me to understand 4 dimensions. Okay: length, width and height. But where are those in relation to everything else in the universe? It has to be WHEN.reply
Magnifying glasses focus multiple photons into a smaller space. Doesn't work if you're only observing one photonreply
That’s fine. We’ll just call it a “quantum” magnifying glass in post.reply
So if you jumped back an hour in time you would be flailing in the vacuum of space.reply
Exactly why the thought of backward time travel is dumb…every second hundreds of thousands miles awayreply
Well, not that far. Light travels 186,000 miles in one second.reply
and if you stare too much into the abyss...it stares right backreply
But also the bacteria in you influences your personality... For instance, In fecal transplant studies, if the donor liked hiking and the recipient would take up hiking after the transplant.reply
Can someone who like working out please donate some of your shit to me?reply
so you're telling me we're meat Kaijus for bacteria to experience the world at a macroscopic level.reply
Human beings are self-replicating, self-healing, bio-mechanical suits. Pretty rad.reply
Blood Music by Greg Bearreply
I think the deal is that the chemicals released by the bacteria can have various impacts on the biology of your body, which can then in turn impact your behavior. Fecal transplants have been shown to change people's appetite, energy level, mental health status (depression), weight loss, whether the person has acne, and some other stuff I can't remember. Apparently whether you like hiking-- but that might also be a side effect of having more energy or less depression.reply
Well, it wasn't just hiking, if I remember it correctly sailing, running, etc ... It's crazy interestingreply
I like how this also proposes a simplicity to it, but we just can't get perspective to see what it is.reply
This is the main reason backward time travel is impossible…you would need to know the exact point to hit on the surface of earth that has traveled millions of miles in just a few seconds, let alone years and billions of milesreply
I think you would have to calculate that, as well as everything else that affects spacetime, to enable backward or forward time travel. But just for funsies, if you knew the affordable distance per time where you could safely time travel, say 1mm/1nanosec (less than the range where you'd die) you could do it in bazillions of tiny increments. It would be expensive but it would be a lot safer than praying on the math over eons.reply
What would be the point of reference for that movement? There is no absolute measurement of position anywhere in the universe (as far as we know).reply
I don't get the part about Planck's constant isn't constant?reply
Our current best scientific theories say Planck's Constant is the smallest a thing can be. P'm quite sure that, given time, we will discover smaller things are possible. We just haven't yet.reply
If smaller things were possible the uncertainty principle and blackbody radiation experiments would not be physically possible. Planck's constant is a measurement; not a theoretical construct, but a fundamental necessity. We've already measured quantum effects with an astronomical degree of precision, so any new paradigm that rejects quantum mechanics has a LOT of explaining to do. I understand your point, and I agree to some extent because I'm agnostic. But at this point the universe would have to be LYING to us for an alternative explanation to be true, and considering alternatives is completely meaningless, as no observations support it.reply
No CURRENT observations. Claimin we already know the whole truth kills science.reply
Well for one science doesn't care about whole truth. However future theories based on new observations will still have to account for our astronomically precise current observations. Again I agree with you in a general way, I really just disagree with your confidence that one day we'll learn things can be smaller. There's no rational reason to believe that.reply
Plancks constant is just the shortest we can actually measure currently. Essentially it's the limit of what we can seereply
Just to be clear, it's the smallest distance we could measure with our current laws of physics, but we cannot even approach that level of resolution currently.reply
Correct, sorry if I wasn't clear enough. We aren't "seeing" anything at that scalereply
Don't forget fungi! They don't make up a huge percentage, but they cover us too, inside and out!reply
Honestly curious. Didn't Einstein say time bends. What is time anyway? My brain can't wrapreply
They say time is the fire in which we burn.reply
Crossing our fingers we don't get any sophons sent to us.reply
I was wondering when there’d be a Remembrance of Earths Past reference here 😅reply
Yep, bacterial cells outnumber human cells by about 10:1. It's just the bacteria are several orders of magnitude smaller than most human cells.reply
That estimate has been revised, and it's possibly about 1:1. Although it is a difficult number to determine.reply
Wow, today I learned!reply
what do you mean by 'what you consider your body?' Do you know something I don't about my body? Is this a simulation?reply
Your body isn’t really yours, it’s actually a generation ship for the many colonies of bacteria inside you.reply
I think that it was a two liter bottle they would fill if you could drain all the other cells off a person. I could be off on that.reply
The vast majority of the 'foreign' cells live in your gut, so roughly half of every person you see is shit. Your gut bacteria have a very strong influence on mood and critical thought, they may even be considered the root of human consciousness.reply
So that's what people mean when they say they have a gut feelingreply
Careful, that's how Fry got frozen.reply
Which eventually led to him doing the nasty in the pastyreply
> actually going near the speed of light Relative to some things. For you, you're moving at the speed of time.reply
What's ur PhD in?Pussy? Cus you must be drowning in it with all them smarts.reply
PHD stands for Pretty Huge Dingaling. I ain't got one of them.reply
So in this case it’s Pleasantly Humble Dingus.reply
That kind of thing always makes me think of the Ship of Theseus. And I know the whole point is a philosophical quandary - but it's all under the same name so it all becomes Theseus in the end. Like, I eat an apple and it becomes a 'part' of me until it isn't. Or the bacteria, not technically me but living in me, is part of me because it is mine. I own it, more or less. So it's me. Or if you change a board on the ship, the old board stops being part of it and the new one becomes Theseus while in use until it's removed and only until that moment, regardless of how many you change. You can make a new ship out of of Theseus boards, but that ship won't be Theseus. Break Theseus in half and both are new ships, Theseus ceases to exist.reply
I feel like you're calling my cells fat and some of them are upset about that.reply
For me, it's the Sun. Roughly 93 million miles away, but burns my skin if I spend too much time outside. Exactly how big is the Sun if it can do that from that distance?reply
Imagine you’re in a helicopter, looking down on an infinite forest that never ends. You can’t see the edge, even in your imagination. We can visualise travelling through infinity, but not infinity itself.reply
You are thinking about Janna Levin. She is a wonderful communicator, I really love watching her interviews.reply
I'm also non-religious but the Bible slaps when it comes to describing Yahweh (and it's other numerous names). By giving it a title, a form, a word, an identity it becomes "not that", so it's essence only exists outside of thought and form... Which is itself a description of a thought or form (being formless is itself an identity/label/thought). It's the exact same message that's taught in Buddhism about thought, ego, identity, self, etc.reply
Now fold yourself seven timesreply
Rules are for cowsrdsreply
They seem to have dramatically outsized representation in the body’s deliberations and voting. Like little authoritarian microbes.reply
Reality has a resolution. The double slit experiment is trippy, but this to me is the most convincing argument that this is a simulation.reply
It doesnt, planck length isnt some smallest unit and we have no evidence of space being discrete down to levels far smaller then the planck lengthreply
It's not really a resolution. It's the smallest length that could be observed by chucking maximum energy photons at it.reply
I think that George Lematre (he was a priest and the one who did the Big Bang Theory) would explain it lke that too, just the concept of "universe" itself: For it existing, it had to have something (like the big bang) to start it, but what made that to happen? Lematre says God is the primary motor that made it happen. But at the end of the day, I still don't understand, taking theology aside, why did the big bang happened at first hand? Either the universe has always existed or there was nothing at all, until something or someone made it happen, those two possibilities are kind of dread inducing. That is why I am agnostic, I love how quantum physics had truly showed us humans how little we know, and that is kind of terrifying too.reply
I want a biography of the teenage sharks in 1517.reply
They must be getting seriously sick of life by now.reply
The 10:1 ratio has been revised and the current estimate is about 1:1.reply
On the other hand most of those bacteria are found in the digestive system, and an argument can be made that that’s still technically “outside” of your body. We are basically a donut and the digestive tract is the hole in the center which our meat and bones are wrapped around.reply
Oh, it's not just spinning all the way up, it's also spinning all the way down, too. Molecules, atoms, subatomic particles, all of it, all spinning.reply
Before it was stolen by Elon, the word *grok* came from a Heinlein sci-fi story and it meant to totally understand something. So I like to think that there are just our need to keep working to *grok* the universe so that we can visualize it. May our need for the god of the gaps grow ever smaller.reply
everything makes sense until you reach the edgesreply
Mate, we're just hairless apes playing at being smart. The fact that we understand enough of what we see around us to extrapolate to things we can't currently actually see is remarkable enough! If you want absolute truth, look for it in religion or something... Science is ALWAYS "our best guess so far..." There may or may not be absolute truths in a universe that exists in more dimensions than we can even percieve. We aren't close enough to them to figure that out yet...reply
Oh I definitely get that. I was mainly making an r/outside joke.reply
Depends on the point of reference. Thanks to the expansion of space you are actually moving away from the farthest galaxies faster than the speed of light.reply
They don’t know how old I amreply
It was sorta like you see in the calendars, you know the infantry squares in the old calendars like the Battle of Waterloo and the idea was the shark come to the nearest man, that man he starts poundin’ and hollerin’ and sometimes that shark he go away… but sometimes he wouldn’t go away. Sometimes that shark looks right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about a shark is he’s got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, he doesn’t even seem to be livin’… ’til he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all your poundin’ and your hollerin’ those sharks come in and… they rip you to pieces.reply
ENHANCEreply
I love the Planck units! They're like the fundamental building blocks of the universe, that we know of right now at least.reply
I'm no student of physics, so only recently read about Planck's Length. Previously I'd read Wolfram's book, *A New Kind of Science*, and I can't help wondering whether there's a relationship between Wolfram's math and Planck's Length.reply
I don’t understand. How would zooming in use energy?reply
To "zoom in" on a physical scale, you must use a probe particle with a wavelength small enough to resolve tiny details. Since a particle's energy is inversely proportional to its wavelength, smaller distances require higher energy probes. Quantum mechanics dictates that confining energy to an extremely small space increases the uncertainty in momentum, effectively "pumping" energy into that point. If you attempt to zoom past the Planck length, the energy density becomes so high that it reaches the threshold for gravitational collapse. Instead of seeing something smaller, the concentrated energy creates a microscopic black hole that prevents any further observation. When you use a digital or optical zoom on your phone, you are simply collecting light that is already bouncing off your subject. The camera doesn't change the object, it just harvests more detail from the existing flow of photons. In the quantum world, "natural" light is too large and to see tiny things, so you have to provide your own "light" (high-energy particles) to strike the target.reply
Which is not a problem when you get used to it. I have a PhD in physics and at some point I started to trust maths inserted of trying to build a mental image. TBH this is the moment where physics lost quite a lot of its awesomeness. It was still great, especially on the prediction side, but became somehow dry.reply
Kind remind me of [Yā Sčn - 40]( It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor does the night outstrip the day. They all float, each in an orbit)reply
this stuff always makes me think it's the simulations way of throttling us or keeping us stuck hahareply
> Pretty crazy that at a certain point our rules of physics just stop working. I feel like it actually makes a lot of sense. There are really 2 options: * Space is the same at every scale, and there is no smallest possible unit of space. It just goes on forever, smaller and smaller, infinitely. This would itself be a strange concept if you think much about it. * Space has some lower limit of size, beyond which either nothing could be measured, or else it becomes something different and no longer space as we know it.reply
"The Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose" \-J.B.S. Haldanereply
The thing that gets me about the speed of light is... Speed its relative, right? Like if two cars were driving away from eachother at 10km/h, they would each be moving away from a stationary observer between them at 10km/h, but moving away from each other at 20km/h... right? So if the speed of light is the speed limit of the universe, how fast are two photons moving relative to eachother if they're moving away from eachother? If their speed can't exceed the speed of light? But in order to be moving at the speed of light from an observer between them, then relative to eachother they would *need* be moving at *double* the speed of light.reply
From the photon’s perspective no time has passed. Infinite speed results in zero timereply
Relatively is, well, relative. The claim is that \_you\_ never measure anything moving relative to \_you\_ faster than c. It breaks no rules for you to observe two other objects moving at faster than c, relative to each other. If you all got together afterwards and compared notes, you would all disagree on what you saw. As for your point about adding velocities in relativity theory, they don’t just add up the way you would expect. If I’m standing on the sidewalk, you drive by in a car going at 0.9c, then throw a baseball forward from the car going at what you measure to be 0.8c, I won’t measure that baseball going at 0.9c + 0.8c = 1.7c, I’ll measure something less than c. Exactly what can be calculated with [link removed]reply
Those are a few of my favourite thoughts to bend my mind around! It's always nice to see them out in the wild.reply
I know we aren’t gods and can’t understand everything. But I think the analogy to the grasshopper is a little flawed. Just because we don’t understand everything now, doesn’t mean we won’t in the future. Human knowledge builds generation on generation. What we will discover in the future will probably blow our minds now. Humans have this ability, and any alien intelligence will be in the same situation as us. We don’t need to re-discover newtons laws, or einsteins. We can build on that knowledge and make new discoveries along the way.reply
Space, the final frontier, these are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise. It's continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life, new civilizations.... To BOLDLY go where no one(man) has gone before! -Capt. Jean Luc "there are FOUR lights" Picard (or Kirk) *~*Queue music*~* Baaaa bababa BABABA bababababababababa bababaaaa BABA...reply
solar system is so humongous big, right? but if you see the, like, our solar system and our galaxy on the like side, yknow like, and we're so small! you can't even see it, our galaxy is like huge, but if you see the big picture, our galaxy is so tiny, like dot in our universe, like, and you think like, we have some problems here on the earth to worry about?! compared to like... .. nothing! -Ilya Byrzgalov [link removed]reply
Have you ever had a dream that you, um, you had, your, you- you could, you’ll do, you- you wants, you, you could do so, you- you’ll do, you could- you, you want, you want them to do you so much you could do anything? - Dream Kidreply
I would award you for this if I could my dude I am laughing so hard rnreply
Thank Christ someone invoked Bryzgalov at some point here.reply
“Brother, do not look into Room 101 to ask whether those within have four lights or five. Ask only whether there are enough for all to have some.” — Louis C. K. O’Brienreply
"Spaceman, I always wanted you to go into space, man!" -- Babylon Zooreply
3% is visible matter.reply
And that’s not in the sense of “3% stuff, 97% empty”. The ratios of that is a lot more towards empty. Its because of dark matter and dark energy which there is a lot more of, so that 97% of the “stuff” in the universe is stuff we cant see nor interact with.reply
That scene screwed me up when I was a kid. I didn't want to remember thatreply
same!! that scene and the one when we see they are inside a locker just like how the little watch people are inside a lockerreply
I’m more just bummed that we won’t know what’s out there. If there’s a habitable planet with other beings, I wish we could get a snapshot.reply
I’m sure there are a lot of them. But we’ll almost certainly never meet any of them. Space and time are just too bigreply
Them may be us in a way.reply
Ain’t no nothing to expand into.reply
It’s like the skin on a balloon expanding if you were a little bacteria particle living on it. Everywhere you look in any direction it’s just getting larger. In theory if the bacterium had a little flagella it could round the balloon, so don’t put too much faith in that analogy.reply
That bacteria still exists in 3d space and there are things all around it, not just on the baloon but things that would be incomprehenisbly far if the bacteria would be able to think. Who's to say the same isn't true for our universe? That there wasn't one central point where matter expanded, but multiple really far apart? This would mean there are other "universes", as in large expanses of matter. There's no way to prove if this is or isn't true, because we can't see or measure anything that's too far way from us (a boundary we call the "observable universe")reply
The bacteria was the closest thing I could think to a 2D being. And you’re right, undoubtedly there are aspects of our universe that we cannot comprehend.reply
Its because the analogy isn't quite right. Like all of the curved spacetimes in general relativity, the spacetime describing an expanding universe isn't embedded in some higher-dimensional space. Its curvature is an intrinsic property describing how we measure distances in spacetime. So a better analogy would be to think about the simplest example of a curved space: the surface of a sphere. If I give you the longitudes of two points and tell you they're at the same latitude (same distance from the equator) and I ask you to tell me how far apart they are, can you do it? Not without more information: those two points will be much further separated if they're near the equator than if they're near the North or South Pole. The curvature of this space means that distances are measured differently at different points in space, particularly, at different latitudes. An expanding universe is also a curved space(time), but in this case the curvature doesn't mean that distances are measured differently at different points in space, but at different points in *time*. The expansion of the Universe means quite simply that the distances we measure between two points which are otherwise stationary grows over time. In effect, the statement that "space" is expanding is really a statement that our cosmic rulers are growing.reply
So we’re going to popreply
Yes! Like a balloon. It's science!!reply
You're so going to have "interesting" dreams tonight, good luck ☺️ But seriously, evidence shows the expansion is accelerating. Eventually that will rip planets out of orbit and then rip the planets themselves apart. If I recall correctly the time between planets being pulled away from their star(s) and the planets themselves being pulled apart would only be a matter of seconds/minutes, something like that anyway.reply
We can’t be the only universe to have ever existedreply
My understanding is that is irrelevant - if there’s no possible interaction, we may as well be the only one. It does seem a bit moot.reply
Personally I'd be surprised if we were the only one, not that we'll get an answer to that one anytime soon 🤷😮‍💨reply
Now I'm having a crisis that there are beings that would see space the same way we see the oceansreply
It confuses me. If it’s infinite, then it has no end, and how can that be? But the alternative is that it’s finite, which means there’s an end, and how could that be, either?reply
It gets even weirder when you think of the consequences of an infinite universe. You would run out of ways to combine atoms (without repeating) before you run out of space. So there must be infinite mirror versions of us and our planet out there. You just have to fly long enough till patterns start repeating.reply
The balloon is explaining the things expanding in relation to each other but not the "medium" in which space itself expands. The balloon exists in a 3d space where it can stretch out more within the air. Where is the universe expanding into? Is there an infinite amount of room for it to expand or is more room being "created" as it expands?reply
In the analogy, the surface of the balloon is the entire universe. Air inside or outside the balloon aren't part of the analogy at all. Universe isn't expanding *into* something. It's just expanding. Think of a small balloon with dots painted on the surface. As you fill the balloon with air, all of those dots get more and more distant from one another. They're not going into or away from any particular direction. That's kinda comparable to how the universe expands and everything gets more distant.reply
Existential dreadreply
feeling that to a crippling degree these daysreply
I use this example to understand nothingness. It’s not a lack of something it’s a complete absence. So, close your eyes and notice what you see. Basically nothing, right? Now think about what your right knee sees. That’s the real nothing.reply
Hank Green recently made a post about how if there was a mirror 65 million light years away and we looked into that mirror with a telescope we would be able to look at dinosaurs and see the past and I just don't like having my perception of time break like that.reply
And the thing is, the edge of our universe is just what we are currently physically able to see. We have no idea what's beyond that edge. Could be nothing. Could be the rest of the universe that's billions of time larger. And IF universe is sufficiently large, then there is a chance somewhere else within the universe is another solar system with atoms arranged exactly like ours.reply
It is creepy that the majority of the universe will never be visible to us. The expansion of the universe already outruns light at very large distances. Eventually the edge of the observable universe will intersect this distance, and the cosmological horizon will start to shrink. A long time after that we'll get to the point where we can't even see other galaxies. But more importantly, that means there will be a maximum size of the observable universe and no amount of waiting will ever allow you to see beyond that. IIRC it would be about 25% bigger than the diameter of the current observable universe. Even if the universe is not infinite it is thought to be far bigger* than that hypothetical maximum. So no matter how long you wait, most of the universe will stay hidden forever. * It is possible the universe has curvature and curves back on itself like an old video game giving it a maximum size. We can measure that and so far detect no curvature (so maybe it is infinite). But our instruments are not perfect, so a very tiny curvature could be hiding in the uncertainty. If that is true, the very smallest it could be without us detecting that curvature is something like 20 trillion LY in diameter. The current observable universe is 46 billion LY in diameter, which means we see less of the universe now than someone standing on a paddleboard sees of the Pacific. ^(That's assuming it isn't actually infinite.)reply
scientists call the "getting back to where you started" loop-back effect as curved geometry/curved universe, like the surface of a balloon, and a flat universe is like an infinite tabletop. The final results of the Plank mission in 2018 concluded that our universe is flat. So heading out you'll never get back to where you were unless you turn around and come back.reply
Some folks look into the nasty nothingness and go bibbledy.reply
“This is my Earth And I live in it It's one third dirt and two thirds water And it rotates and revolves through space At rather an impressive pace And never even messes up my hair And here's a really weird thing The force created by its spin Is the force that stops the chaos flooding in” - Tim Minchin - “Not Perfect”reply
Something being "somewhere" is a part of the universe. "outside" of it doesn't exist because "outside" is a property of space itself. What is "north" of the North pole? There is no "space" outside space.reply
You stink, loser!reply
😂reply
Picture a balloon inflatingreply
Me blowing it up of coursereply
Finally found God. My mom would be proud.reply
Mom says its my turn with Godreply
When we use the "expanding balloon" analogy, the universe isn't meant to be the the volume of the balloon, but the surface. Now, the 2D surface of a real balloon is embedded in our 3D space, but geometric spaces in physics do not necessarily have to be "embedded" in any higher space to work. Our universe is this kind of space, therefore it can change, grow or shrink without needing any further scaffolding. Another way to think about it: Image the number line, and you place a dot at every integer, so ..., -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, ... The line is infinite, so infinite dots, but the space between each dot is 1. Now move each dot so you skip a number ..., -2, 0, 2, ... Still infinite dots on an infinite line, but now the distance between each dot is 2. That's our expanding universe.reply
>the universe isn't meant to be the the volume of the balloon, but the surface Exactly. The surface of a sphere. Two points at the same latitudes but different longitudes are measured differently at different latitudes. Swap time for latitude and the analogy holds up better. The balloon expanding part is irrelevant puffery. The surface of any sphere suffices.reply
There isn't an outside. Edit: for the record, there isn't an inside either. The universe in this analogy is the surface of the balloon, not the volume.reply
We actually don't know for certain what the outer reaches of space are like because we can't see or measure that farreply
And we never will.reply
Speak for yourself.reply
This is probably true, because even if we invent FTL travel in the distant future, space will already have expanded so far that whatever "edge" there is would be impossibly far awayreply
Hoe can one know that?reply
Just imagine a rigid volume and everything inside is shrinking.reply
What do you mean, *isnt*reply
There is, but we don't know what it is We cannot see nor comprehend what it is that is beyond space There are no physical borders and the borders we know of keep stretching. Caught within, we can never see what lies beyond those borders, nor figure out what it is. One can't walk through a door if the wall gets further and further away exponentially, faster than you could ever hope to runreply
The question doesn't make sense, which is why you can't get a satisfying answer. Everywhere is expanding all at the same time. The big bang didn't happen in one place, and then outwards like an explosion. It's more accurate to call it the everywhere expansion (which is continuing to happen). Everywhere is in the universe, nowhere is outside of it, and were not expanding in to anything. Also time is an emergent property of the physics of this universe and so there was no before, and if it ever ends, there will be no after.reply
Speculation, because we can't see outside of the observable universe.reply
Other ballons?reply
It’s balloons all the way downreply
On top of all matter/energy coming from the singularity of the big bang, all of spacetime was in there too. We're all a part of the big bang, man.reply
Something something dust in the windreply
It's not necessary to think about the vastness of space. It's cool to think about, but chances are that nothing out there will affect you in your lifetime.reply
Space is big -Dougreply
So long and thanks for all the fish.reply
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Imagine a number line, with numbers going from zero to infinity. Multiply it by 2. It expanded, but not “into” anything.reply
Again, not helpingreply
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That and the endlessness of time gives me huge existential dread. Like big whoop, you live till 100. That's barely a blink in the lifespan of the Solar System, which is a blip in the galaxy, which is a blip until the heat death of the universe or whichever theory ends up being correct.reply
*I need to replay ACiT*reply
I mean, we're still looking for that [teapot orbiting the Sun]([link removed]reply
Imagine a polka dot balloon being inflated bigger and bigger. If you were a cartoon stick-man on a polka dot, the balloon’s surface would be your universe. And the distance between you and all the other polka dots would be growing. Not because the dots are moving, but because the fabric of your universe is expanding. And the rubber fabric of the universe is actuallly a sort of closed loop, wrapping back around into itself. The rubber isn’t expanding into anything, just… expanding. The surface itself, the entire universe is just sort of growing. That’s a 2d universe analogy that’s actually very close to our 3d space expansion. It wraps around on itself and is just expanding.reply
\*Qwark. There's a '70s sci-fi sitcom called Quark (after the captain of the space garbage ship where it all took place) and I thought "*That* was his first name???"reply
The galaxy is in Orion's bell.reply
Things spread apart only on the surface of the balloon, yeah? But all the imaginary dots inside it aren't going far at all, comparatively. If space is like a balloon, which part is like the inside?reply
In the analogy, the surface of the balloon is 3d space, and the space inside and outside the balloon is 4d when you convert the analogy to the universe. If space is 'like' a balloon, it is like the parts of the balloon, not the space inside or outside it. Which is why it's confusing to consider because it requires some level of 4d thinking, or at least fancy positive curvature 3d thinking.reply
Stretching into what?reply
Yesreply
Why would it have to expand *into* something? It isn't *in* anything to begin with. Things are in space, not the other way around.reply
Those large scale structures of thousands and thousands of *galaxies*. I can't look at them and think we're alone, it seems impossible. And that means there has to be other life asking the same question on their reddit.reply
Fun fact I like to throw out during my astronomy public outreach events: The Andromeda Galaxy is our closest neighbor at 2.5 million light years away. It's close enough that it and the Milky Way are already interacting gravitationally. The light we're seeing that was emitted from Andromeda left the galaxy 2.5 million years ago, when humanity was still known as *homo habilis*, the first human species to use tools. If there were a sentient species on a planet in Andromeda with a telescope powerful enough to see the surface of the Earth, they would see us as our ape ancestors because light from us takes the same amount of time to travel there. In fact, the closest star to us, Proxima Centauri at 4 light years, could just up and disappear one day but we wouldn't know it for 4 years. There are rumors that the star Betelgeuse will go supernova soon but it likely already has since it's ~700 light years away.reply
What really blows my mind is HOW the earth revolves around the sun. It looks perpendicular, not parallel, to the sun's revolution around galactic center.reply
Man, that's only the beginning. Then you get to clusters, then superclusters, etc. You're on the inside of the onion looking out.reply
*Just re-member that you're standing on a planet that's evolving, revolving at 900 miles an hour*reply
That’s kinda sadreply
"It’s so empty. I mean, of course, right? It’s right there in the name: “space.” It’s not like it’s called “vast quantities of stuff.” "Although, come to think of it, there are over three billion stars in our galaxy alone and ours is one of two trillion; there are a septillion known planets, so maybe it should be called “vast quantities of stuff,” like, why focus on the negative?" —Dr. Agnes Jurati, Star Trek Picardreply
Look up heat death. Our universe will be dead for eternity. Light and stars and life are insignificant. Eventually every atom in existence will be so far apart there will be nothingreply
We are ghosts driving a meat suit, travelling at the speed of light across the universe in a ball shaped, nature-made spaceship. And for some reason we treat our suits and spaceship with not enough respect.reply
Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour It's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned A sun that is the source of all our power The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see Are moving at a million miles a day In an outer spiral arm at forty thousand miles an hour Of the galaxy we call the Milky Way Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars It's a hundred thousand light years side to side It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand light years thick But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point We go round every two hundred million years And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions In this amazing and expanding universe The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding In all of the directions it can whizz As fast as it can go – the speed of light, you know Twelve million miles a minute and that's the fastest speed there is So remember when you're feeling very small and insecure How amazingly unlikely is your birth And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space 'Cause there's bugger all down here on earthreply
You lose your *Milky Way* in it, it's be almost impossible to find. And just forget about your M&Ms.reply
"Gee, I wonder who *owns* that moon." -Dave Foleyreply
Yes, I'm wondering why they said it is not constant.reply
Just a play on words since constants in math don't change (for example pi)reply
Oh it is a play on words, I was reading it as a math statement.reply
I'm 47 and this thought has messed with my head since I was probably 8 years old. I understand the balloon metaphor that everyone is giving below; the fact remains that we as humans have an extremely difficult time wrapping our heads around things (like space) not having something outside of it. We feel instinctively compelled to compartmentalize everything, and the universe is no different. That's what makes it so...vexatious.reply
I struggle to comprehend the fact that space is expanding into nothingness, but also the fact that space, and whatever lies beyond space, has always just existed and was never created (sorry theists). My silly monkey brain refuses to believe something can have no “start date”.reply
Not to mention the recent discoveries that our understanding of the "big bang" is off. Galaxies that we can see that were born in the first 5% of the universes history appear to be much older than they should be.reply
Agreed. My brain goes “Well where is it going?” Science “Yes”reply
That reminds me of the Pete Holmes joke about how life makes no sense [link removed]reply
It's the thing that things normally expand in that expands in this case. Yeah, it makes no sense in any intuitive way of thinking about it, but if it's any consolation - it's even worse with time. We assume timespace came to be along with the universe, which means any reasoning about "before" the big bang is just fundamentally absurd. Anywayreply
The best part is also that it's expanding everywhere. The other galaxies are not flying away from us, the space in between is growing. All points in space are growing further apart from each other as space is expanding everywhere. Everything is getting further and further apart. Only things held together by gravity are staying close by (for now, before the expansion overcomes all gravity, or will it?).reply
Its not like the universe is a giant black ball of space growing larger in a void of white nothingness. Its expanding as in galaxies are drifter further and further away from each other.reply
is it white nothingness? or is that the back side of the big bang and we don’t know what’s past that veil?reply
in the same way we physically don't understand the big bang, we physically can't understand what is beyond the "edge" of space. all of the laws of physics that we know break beyond those points. we can't understand before the big bang, and we can't understand the edge of space, as the very concepts of time and distance break down beyond those points.reply
Well technically there is no “back side” of the big bang. It wasn’t unidirectional and apparently it also wasn’t in a single spot either, it was like it happened everywhere at the same time.reply
It's literally increasing in overall size. Think of it this way - your Google Map of your city constantly updating, and every time it updates, the distances are just larger than they were before.reply
Into more space. When we say it's expanding, it's not expanding into "nothing", there already is "nothing" in between stars and planets.reply
>Into what? The best explanation I've heard is that you shouldn't see it as expanding into something but as the space between things increasing.reply
here is the real trippy part. What is outside of this 'bubble'? If the entire space is inside a basketball, then what is outside the basketball?reply
> If the entire space is inside a basketball Usually in those analogies, the *surface* of the ball/balloon/whatever represents the universe. The inside or outside don't matter.reply
Yeah and how come we exists from nothing or if there is a creator which is not bound by the rules of universe/physics. Both are equally terrifying like why do we exist at all?reply
There are times I try to wrap my head around that and it just doesn't work. Like space ends, there is a point where space just stops being....and I can't understand what's on the other side of that. Like "space" is in space?reply
When I was 9-12 used to have regular panic attacks about it. Especially there being “nothing” beyond the limits of space. How? What is nothing? Mommy, hold me.reply
I like to think that space isn't expanding into nothing, it's expanding into something but we don't know what. We know now that an empty room doesn't really contain "nothing", there are gases, radiation, etc and the room is actually full of little molecules and "stuff" but for a long time we didn't know that and would have considered the empty room to contain "nothing". I don't believe that there's "nothing" beyond the universe it's just that we don't have the knowledge to understand or perceive what it actually is.reply
We are the music makers. We are the dreamers of dreams.reply
It's expanding into time. The thing that gets me is that time is going faster in the giant voids because there's less gravity there, so the voids are growing, while the cosmic filaments stick together and bog down the passage of time.reply
The expansion of the universe, in the simplest terms possible, just means that the empty voids between objects are getting larger. Think of a frag grenade, with multiple shells/layers (assume each layer has the same mass), exploding in an empty void, with no walls, floor, etc. The outer layers will prevent the inner layers from exploding, until enough energy has been transferred to the outer layers to send them flying. For easy math, imagine it takes 20% of the explosive energy to disperse the outer layer. As soon as the outer layer is gone, there is now 80% of the explosive energy left. The next layer, takes 20% of the remaining 80% to disperse, or 16% of the original. This layer is sent with 4% less total energy, reducing the fragments' initial velocity compared to the first shell. The third layer uses 20% of the remaining 74%, equal to 14.8% of the original total energy. Since there is no air resistance in a void, all shells will continue at their initial velocity in all directions forever (Let's not think about gravity between fragments, to keep this remotely simple). Since each shell has successively smaller velocities, taking the difference between two shells' velocities will yield their relative velocities, which will be positive for the earliest shell, and negative for the latest shell. Thus fragments from shell 3 can never pass those from shells 1 or 2, and will never be passed by fragments from shell 4+. This means the distance between the shells will gradually increase, leaving large, growing voids between each shell. In addition, because they are all moving in straight lines, jetting directly from the center of the explosion, the distance between each fragment in a singular shell will expand. This is like if you put 2 marker dots on a slightly inflated balloon, find the shortest distance between them, then inflate the balloon. You will see the dots move away from each other, and could verify that the shortest distance between them, will always increase, regardless if you measure across the surface of the balloon, or through the inside of it, so long as you keep the measurent being taken consistent. TLDR: Everything moves outwards from a central point, and those that started moving the fastest, continued to move the fastest, racing away from the slower stuff. In space, everything moves in a straight line (until gravity has a say), so the distances between everything is constantly growing, just like the distance between the circles on an ever-inflating, spherical, polka-dotted balloon.reply
It was one of the things that made me laugh in Mass Effect 2, where the gunnery officer is giving his speech about firing the gun, stating that your fired projectile will hit something, either a ship, the planet behind the ship, or someone else in ten thousand years. In all reality, every missed shell in the war will likely never hit anything larger than a speck of dust. Space is absolutely colossal.reply
It’s the only thing that exists without needing to be inside something else so of course it expands into nothing. Expansion isn’t a crazy concept when you realize everything about the universe is just unique and incomprehensible.reply
I’m no scientist, but philosophically this is how I think about it. Space isn’t really a thing. It’s the fact that things can be apart from each other. So asking what space is expanding into already assumes it’s a container sitting inside a bigger room, and there isn’t one. Outside of space would just be more apartness, which is more space. Imagine a single boulder appearing in pure blackness. The space is already there, not as a backdrop the boulder showed up in, but as the fact that the boulder is distinct from the dark around it. Take the boulder away and there’s no room left to be empty. There’s no room at all. Without something being apart from something else, there’s no apartness, and apartness is what space is. Expansion isn’t space moving outward through something. It’s the distances between things growing. The relations are stretching. The stretching is what space is doing, not what space is moving through.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​reply
Last week I saw a clip of physicist Brian Cox saying that the number of stars in the *observable* universe is 30,000 million, million, million or 30 sextillion!!reply
Even astronomers don't comprehend space. We are constantly learning new things about universe and the fact is, humans just can't fathom how big it is. We have measurements and numbers, but they are way to big to conceptualize on a human scale, especially when 1000 miles seems like a long distance, yet light can cover that distance in 1/186,000ths of a second, yet light is not fast enough to travel from one end of the universe to the other, even over billions of years. 🤯reply
A good analogy I have found: imagine you have a hotel with infinite rooms: 1, 2, 3, 4 etc, all occupied by guests. You ask the guest in each room, at the same time, to move to the first room they encounter after skipping one. So the guests in room 1 go to room 3, guests in room 2 go to room 4 etc. The hotel is still infinite, but the space between the guests has expanded. The hotel is not expanding into anything, it's still the same hotel, just the space between the guests in the hotel stretched.reply
Put two dots on a balloon blow up balloon. Noticed dots are further apart now? Space between them expanded. And since space is expanding itself it can go faster than light. As what it's expanding into we aren't sure. One could argue it's not expanding into anything since it is everything it's just getting bigger.reply
That doesn’t help me 😅reply
Think harderreply
* Expanding at faster than the speed of light. *All of it*, not just the edges of what we can detect (the light/radiation from which has traveled 13.8 Billion years to reach us).reply
But that's just ignoring my question. The farther away things get from each other the more volume they will take in total. The balloon takes barely any space when deflated and as it expands, it needs more room. Where is this room/volume coming from for the universe to expand?reply
It's not ignoring the questiong. The question itself is wrong. It doesn't "take" any room from something. The universe could be all that there is, and still expand. There doesn't need to be anything outside of it to expand into, or to take room or volume from. And yeah it's difficult to imagine.reply
I think stretching is more accurate than expanding Imagine the space of the universe is made up of pixels, and each individual pixel is growing at the same rate Maybe growing is the better word? Maybe stretching? Maybe something else?reply
When you see a picture of the Milky Way and it looks like huge clusters of stars crowded together, but there’s actually trillion of miles between each one.reply
We were out in a "dark skies" desert area a few months ago. I was looking at the stars and talking about it with the kids. I was talking about the vast distances and numbers involved in the universe. And then I spotted Andromeda. Which led to me sort of mentioning casually that every star we can see across the entire night sky is located just within our little corner of our galaxy. Each of them is impossibly far away from us, a distance that's hard to even conceive. And yet, they are only our closest neighbors. Billions of other stars exist much further away, but still within the milky way. And then beyond that is _everything else_. Andromeda, the furthest thing from earth that we can look up (we, with binoculars that night) and see, is just one more galaxy. That tiny smudge has itself billions of stars. And beyond that? So. Much. More. My kids didn't know what to do with that information. But I was quiet after that.reply
Disregard the interior of the balloon and the outside. In this analogy, the universe is the *surface* of the balloon, not the volume.reply
Imagine you’re inside the balloon, you can’t see the outside, it doesn’t exist, but you can tell it’s expanding on all sidesreply
It's not expanding into anything, it's expanding within. The balloon itself is stretching.reply
You and I both know that's a non-answer.reply
There doesn't *need* to be anything outside of the 'balloon'. Within the balloon is everything that exists. Of course we could be in a bubble universe, part of a multiverse etc. But it's entirely possible there isn't anything beyond that.reply
The space between this universe and the next would suffice to clarify. People talking about nothing being beyond are talking around the core of the question to sound smart. There would be something, we just wouldn't have defined it. A barrier abyss impassable into the next universe.reply
Why is there guaranteed to be something beyond? Just because it's difficult to conceptualise 'nothing' existing, doesn't mean something has to exist beyond whatever boundary there is delineating the 'edge' of a universe.reply
I was just being dumb and copied the answer from up above hahareply
I heard there's a new theory that it's not just expanding.. it's "jerking" back and forth like a pulsereply
Infinite and getting bigger all the time!reply
Throw in dark matter. Makes my head hurt.reply
My theory is everything in the universe is shrinking and the universe remains the same size! I call it the Big Shrink Theory/reply
Not just that, but the fact there was a time, before time existed except there wasn't, but time had a beginning and stuff had happened before that, except there wasn't a before. It's fucked up.reply
Actually, the latest findings from Voyager show there is a plastic-like boundary around the solar system. It seems space truly is the vinyl frontier.reply
Into the future. That's what it's expanding into.reply
Once you get over the hurdle of accepting that space becomes something that is from nothing that isn't, it's not so hard to imagine.reply
The way I think of it is that our universe is inside of a super-massive black hole that we conceive as our universe. That black hole is expanding into the actual universe that is actually even mind-fuckingly larger than the one we see ourselves in. In writing this, I know I'm not helping in any way unless you think about our universe on the small scale that we can currently see and stop there.reply
And at some point it will stretch to the point where it can’t go any further and then the observable universe will collapse back in on itself and start the big bang cycle over.reply
Ever seen the one pixel earth project ([link removed]reply
And it’s expanding greater than the speed of light.reply
I just read a fact that you could fit all planets in our solar system in between earth and the moon and still have spaces in between. Im sorry but wtf the MOON IS RIGHT THEREreply
"if you could put the universe into a tube you'd end up with a very long tube umm, probably extending twice the size of the universe because when you collapse the universe it expands and uhhh, you wouldn't want to put it into a tube." "do you know that when you look at a planet and you see that light, that planet's not even there! that's just a light, that's just your neighbor shining a flashlight right into your yard looking for coons, and he says "what are you doing in my backyard? with that flashlight?" and i told him "i'm shining, i'm shining in the window so I can teach your son about the universe" he said "get out of my yard and why are you communicating to my son? why are you in all black? behind my bushes shining a light into my house?" and i said "i'm teaching your son about the universe! i'm shining a light, shining a light right in there and exploring his room as he's looking out and exploring the universe!" i turn the light off and i see your son go to bed and i turn the light back on and i do swirls on his wall like a comet's tail. i do this every night with your son. " -Tin & Ericreply
The flip side of that - black holes. We can literally see where space, time, and all the laws of nature just...end. They come in all sizes - Sagittarius A\* is a super-massive black hole in the center of our own galaxy. So not only is the universe expanding into infinite emptiness, but there are literal holes in that fabric that power our galaxiesreply
Still blows my mind every planet in the solar system can fit inbetween the earth and moon, side by side, but we think of the moon as, well pretty close to earth. Space is incomprehensible.reply
Yes and how people just decided to build rockets and go out there 🤯reply
Expanding? This one guy here says there’s a great attractor that’s pulling everything towards it. 700km per secondreply
If I think about it too much I tend to have an existential crisis and minor freak out. I don't know if it terrifies me or I'm just scared of the unknown.reply
OH MY GOSH! I HAVE A GREAT RESPONSE TO THIS!!!!!! (Maybe lol) Ok. So space is filled with so much space of nothingness, right? We can’t even begin to visualize that emptiness, simply because there is no ‘thing’ for our brains to latch onto to help us understand it) So because there is truly nothing in the space (say the area between two planets). So in order for us to visualize the exact vastness of the empty space, we have to understand what ‘nothing’ or ‘empty’ means. Once you understand the ‘nothing’, it ceases to exist.reply
We are inside a black hole. We are expanding because we are pulling stuff in. The observable universe is the event horizon of our blackhole / universe. The big bang was our black hole collapsing into existence. Sphaghettificationreply
Beyond space...is God's living room. We're just a coffee table ornament.reply
I think there are other space bubbles out there. They’re all cyclical universes.reply
If the universe is infinite it can literally just expand into itself. Infinity is really weird like that. Kinda like how in an infinite hotel with all the rooms full you can still make room for more guests.reply
It's basically like an ever expanding sheet of bubble wrap. And our universe is one of those bubbles.reply
Into nothing. There is no "outside space". If you were to move one direction at infinite speed, you'd eventually just come back to where you were, like a video game where the map just loops back into itself when you reach the edge.reply
not just expanding. also acceleratingreply
I've pondered that too and I can't get my head around what it's expanding into either.reply
Time dilation. The faster we can send people A - B logically it makes sense faster we go we get there and back quicker for us asking mom to pick up the takeout. But instead we get too fast and now us taking an hour to pick up the takeout it takes 5 years for mom and she’s died of starvation alreadyreply
The universe is (or at least, sure looks like it may well be) already infinite. The fact that it's "expanding" just means things everywhere get farther apart over time. Just remember that the possibly-infinite universe isn't the same concept as the *observable* universe, which is finite. The universe is only finitely old, so any light originating from too far away hasn't had time to reach us, meaning it's impossible to observe yet.reply
I teach geoscience and one chapter is about space. When I teach about the vast size of space there will always be a few students who end up with an existential crisis. I shouldn't be proud of that...reply
I remember when I was 8 my dad asked me if I thought space went on forever. I said no everything has an end. He said OK put a brick wall at the end of space, what's on the other side? Blew my fucking mind.reply
Think of expansion as objects moving away from each other. As far as our models go, this is all we can say. That literal space is expanding is an interpretation, not a fact.reply
It's the nothing that expands, which just makes it worsereply
We don't know anything about what it is expanding into. It could be nothing. It could be something. It could be everything. No one knows, and it unlikely we can ever know.reply
I know you're not necessarily looking for an answer here, but the answer as I understand it also fits the post. What I've gathered is that instead of being similar to a balloon being inflated, it's more like the space between any two objects in the universe is always growing, and it's happening faster and faster. I have a masters in math so I think of it like if the universe were a 3d coordinate system; if we "zoom in" to a point, the space between any two points gets bigger but since it's relative to everything else, it's really hard to tell. I'm not sure how they did, but I'm guessing it had something to do with light 🤷 That's just my understanding, but I'm not a physics guy so I could be totally wrong. That's just what I remember from trying to read up on it lolreply
Related: C may be a hard limit, and thus we can _never_ reach a meaningful amount of the visible universe. Interstellar colonies will never really be viable trade partners either for much the same reason. There's nothing that we know of that's worth the cost of 'solar system escape velocity' let alone the prodigious transit time, even with much better acceleration that we've historically had access to, the very best case is a multi-year trip (and in practice Voyager 1 took decades to even leave the solar system, and will take millenia to get anywhere else).reply
Did you know we are supposedly living in the [Local Hole]([link removed] It's measly 2,000,000,000 light years across.reply
I understand the balloon metaphor everyone is giving here. But what is it expanding into? What is the process that is happening at the edge of the universe?reply
What gets me is the answer to the question: Is space infinite? Yes: Why, how, what else is out there!? It doesn’t make sense! No: why, how, is it a wall, if so what’s on the other side of the wall? Who made the wall? Why’s it there? It doesn’t make sense! I genuinely don’t know which one is scarier.reply
It will take Voyager 1 17,664 years to travel one lightyear if my math is correct. 1.8 billion years to cross the galaxy assuming it’s 100,000 lightyears across. edit: I think my math is wrong but I’m too tired to try to figure it out hehreply
We don't really *know* thatreply
> If it’s infinite, then it has no end, and how can that be? If it's a curved surface, it doesn't need to have an end. The surface area of a ball doesn't have any end. It's just way harder to imagine that for a 3d space than 2d.reply
You can kind of picture it like a leaf, or um uh… it’s not a bowl.reply
Thanks for the panic attack before bed...reply
Oh, and then they invented farming.reply
And then became so good at it, they literally can't produce several amino acids key to all life anymore, because they get it all from the fungus (leaf cutting ants of *Atta*). Oh and they invented a complex set of behaviours to minimise fungal contamination with *Escovopsis* including physically repelling waste dump workers.reply
Also, the fungus they farm can no longer survive without their assistance. This means they successfully *domesticated* their crop. Blows my mind.reply
You can argue the crop domesticated them too :) It's a mutually beneficial, obligate symbiotic relationship, which is actually quite rare in nature.reply
Same can be said, in a way, about humans. Did we domesticate wheat, or did wheat domesticate us? Hard to say.reply
There's no doubt in evolutionary terms, that it's worked out pretty well for chickens and similar. Being useful to humans definitely boosts your chances of survivalreply
Well, not the individual chickens. But their genes are certainly benefitting!reply
In the long run, genetics can't really benefit the individual. You could in a way, think of a gene as a parasite. It doesn't care about the suffering of the host organism, it cares about being propogated as much as possible. If that means giving the host a wide array of cancer fighting cells, then it'll do that. If that means forcing it to jump into water and drown, that's what it will do (horsehair worms do this). Wierdly, this has actually happened at least twice. Mitochondria are thought to originally be micro-organisms that got absorbed into cells of other pre-historic organisms and formed a kind of mutualism. Wolbachia, also did this with many proto-insects and in many cases, became entwined with the organism, actively modifying their reproduction because Wolbachia can only be passed on by females, so it tweaked the sex ratio to have more females. Obviously any mention of intent or direct action is a metaphor for the evolutionary process. It's a useful shorthand, but no more than that.reply
This is why I love journaling. I love looking back at how I interpreted things in the moment. Even traumatic experiences are fascinating to do it with. I was in a shooting in 2019, and like. 2 years ago I was flipping through my journal and I found the entry I wrote an hour after it happened, and it is WILD to see what I find significant right then vs how I remembered it several years later.reply
Any new info about bees? New behaviors, dances, communication discovered?reply
Yes! But I can't say yet. You'll have to wait til the publication :) But if you have any interest in unique forms of pollination, this might be of interest: [link removed] Also, you mention dances. Most people know about the waggle dance, but have you heard of the tremble dance? [link removed]reply
Damn, couldn't tease out spoilers.. Well, I'll be waiting. Thanks for the links!reply
Babe wake up New bee facts just droppedreply
That's not really the full truth. We could always win the cosmic lottery and have an unusually narrow beam snipe up from several thousand galaxies away and we'd never see it coming.reply
GRBs are incredibly strong, but they aren't *that* strong. For it to kill us it would still have to occur relatively close within the Milky Way, within around 10,000 lightyears. That's still mind-boggling powerful. All the stars we can see with the naked eye are within ~2,800 lightyears (that is the farthest known visible star, most are much closer). The sun is ~8 lightminutes away and is energetic enough to burn us even with the magnetosphere and atmosphere providing protection. At 60 lightyears it wouldn't be visble to the naked eye. For something 8,000 lightyears away to be energetic enough to blast us hard enough to kill everything... that's ludicrous levels of energy. On the narrow end GRB are estimated to create a beam with a 2 degree angular spread. We don't actually know, because even at only 100 lightyears away a 2 degree cone is 3.5 lightyears wide, so actually detecting the edges would be hard. The closest GRBs known were millions of ly away. For a GRB to wipe us out from thousands of galaxies away it would violate our current understanding of light. It would need to naturally create a beam of light with orders of magnitude less angular divergence than should be physically possible.reply
Didn’t one hit us recently but it was from so far away that by the time it got here it didnt do anythingreply
Yes, in 2022: [[link removed]reply
Yeah anyone who swears something about a memory like "I know what happened! I was there!" is misinformed. You can't be sure what you know from a memory.reply
It’s like that lost in the mall implanted memory experimentreply
Well that’s good news.reply
In my own head, I like to think about colonies as organisms. The same way that multi-cellular creatures found a way to live as one individual, so too have colonial organisms found a way to live as one individual. Encountering an ant walking on a path is like running across someone's patch of skin that scraped off their feet.reply
The superorganism theory. And yeah, I agree. You can think of queens and males and the male and female reproductive organs respectively. I quite like the theory in general.reply
Clarke's Third Law - "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"reply
You mean it's possible I can charge my phone while I'm doomscrolling in bed?reply
Some day we'll invent long stringy things to charge phones with so we don't have to dock them to the receiver every time. Maybe we can call them cablesreply
Ah, so this is the string theory that the blonde and the weird dude were discussingreply
The average age in the US declined thanks to Covid, and thanks to anti-vaxxers doing what they do best.reply
Wouldn't it be more from the fact that covid hits the elderly harder than it hits the young?reply
This is true. Unfortunately, we had some younger people pass in our area - people who had children and some young enough to potentially have children if they so choose. The problem is the massive course correction concerning vaccines in general that spun from Covid. Covid vaccine denial has lead to miss trust of vaccination in general in several areas including mine. No one in my state died from recent measles outbreaks, but I have little doubt resulting vaccine skepticism played a role in other areas where deaths from measles occurred. It is the resulting vaccine skepticism that is of my greatest concern. Children often adopt their parent's views and beliefs. I know people who lost loved ones to Covid who are now on the anti-vax train; their children are faithfully aboard the train. My state offers "philosophical belief" exemptions for vaccinations. We are now all on the train. It may not be a problem NOW, but it could absolutely be a problem for future generations.reply
In an odd twist, some anti-vaxxers are helping prove evolution. Natural Selection favors intelligence, and we as a species are still evolving. Covid was one recent example. Adaptable intelligence is and always has been a key driver of human evolution.reply
Not sure Covid is really an example, they just have to make it long enough to have kids, and the median age of covid deaths is well after most people start having a family (or even can.)reply
Technically, we won't know after it happens either.reply
I have a very tiny bit of Mongolian in my ancestry and I wonder if these conquests are where it came from.reply
well Ghengis khan, did had a lot of children and decendants. they believe that around 16 million people today, are decendants of him.reply
More than likely. Mongols took a lot of forced wives in their conquests plus ranged from Korea in the east to Hungary and Egypt in the west. Largest land empire in history.reply
You’re underselling it. First off, it’s a parasite (Leucochloridium paradoxum,) not a fungus. It forces the snail to the highest point, and turns the snail’s eye stalks into a banded, pulsating signal in order to attract a bird to eat the snail, where the parasite completes its reproduction cycle. The bird poops. A new snail gets infected. Repeat as necessary.reply
No no, they're thinking of cordyceps and ophiocordyceps. Which actually control the body of the host more than the brainreply
The intro to The Last Of Us is great at explaining the terror of fungal infectionsreply
Also the book The Girl With All The Gifts.reply
"We lose...." Chills every time.reply
Same. I love how nonchalant the conversation is from the scientist’s perspective. There is nothing we can do… and then the worst case scenario comes to life. Loved season 1 of this show.reply
My dad told me about this one when I was a small child <3 very fond of this parasite.reply
I've read this sentence like 10 times and I'm still uncertain if you were saying you were under 3, or expressing just how fond you are of this parasite.reply
That's crazy and incredibly interesting. I'm especially intrigued because it happened even though you're aware of the error.reply
I've tried to logic my brain into flipping them back, it won'treply
Wow. That's fkn wild.reply
Look up vacuum decay, it's even worsereply
Well the good news is you would have no idea that it ever happened in the first place.reply
Also, even if vacuum decay occured, the odds of it reaching us in our lifetime is miniscule. It would expand in a bubble at the speed of light, but the vast distances of the universe and its accelerating expansion means that vacuum decay would have to happen pretty close to the Milky Way for it to reach us any time (relatively) soonreply
highly recommend the short story "Last Contact". Brilliant but terrifying.reply
Except we wouldn't see any last goodbye messages with false vacuum decay. Any civilizations getting hit before us would get no prior warning and even if they could somehow get a message off the moment they get hit, it would reach us at the same time as the decay wave front.reply
Keep that attitude, cause it is. We know how the magic works, and that should in no way lessen how magical that technology, and many others, is. Seriously, it was just in 2015 many people seriously doubted we could make stable transistors smaller than 7nm to 5nm, and now TSMC has nodes as small as 1.6nm.reply
*Nicola Tesla and Wardenclyffe Tower have entered the chat*reply
A bonus fun fact - a lot of people assume Tesla's goal at Wardenclyffe was to transmit power wirelessly through the air. This is not correct - He was trying to transmit power wirelessly through the *ground*, using the resonant frequency of the earth. This did not at any point have any chance of working, but he was sure as hell trying.reply
The Quiet Earth has also entered the chat.reply
Sometimes I feel like the things you remember are erased permanently too.reply
I had no idea that was a thing, that's bloody amazing. Thank you for this :)reply
[This is the video I learned it from]([link removed] if you want a more detailed explanation.reply
It's really hard for people to accept that memory is shit. That an eyewitness isn't reliable and thinking you saw something could very well be a figment of your imagination. It's especially egregious in criminal investigations. Eye witness accounts are just accepted as utter truths.reply
Wait until you hear this: Wi-Fi sensors can now determine how many people are in a house just by detecting heartbeats. I’m sure that in time, we’ll be able to 'see' through walls and identify if someone is a man, woman, child, or elderly. With how thin modern houses are built, you’ll eventually be able to drive up to any home and overhear exactly what everyone is saying.reply
If you live in a manufactured home, anyone can hear what is going on from outside anyway.reply
...to get eaten by sheep, where it likes to reproduce in their stomachs.reply
We don't actually remember things. We remember memories of memories.reply
So you want to info dump about ants but your thesis is about bees? Is that because all the interesting stuff about ants has already been studied? :-)reply
Ants are my passion. I'm super duper into the sociality of insects and ants are the best candidates. Bees are also fascinating but I'm just less enthused about them than ants. Maybe my PhD has kind of beaten the enthusiasm out of me a little bit (there's only so many times they can fuck you over. Drink the fucking sugar water you little shits!!), but they were always my second choice. I was unable to get a PhD studying ants for two years straight, then expanded to bees because I've got to start my career sometime.reply
Bee-ten the enthusiasm out of you, you meanreply
Getting your PhB, akshually.reply
Same with the [European conquest of the Americas]([link removed]reply
Didn’t know about that one. Thanks for sharing. I’m currently brushing up on the Incan Mayan and Aztec histories so pretty relevant.reply
Or how the same set of forces is why you don’t fall through the floorreply
I love all the ant nerds coming together on this thread.reply
Not an astrophysicist but I'm thinking that when we observed it, it had already happened and how we observed it (x-rays, visible light?) would be no faster than the gamma rays so they were just about to or were hitting us anyway...not even time to climb under the kitchen table 🤣reply
Prior to the gamma ray burst actually arriving, we would see the star swelling up for millions of years. Keep in mind that the gamma ray burst doesn't arrive faster than the light showing the star's pre-supernova stage. The principle of causality requires us to observe the cause (star swelling up) prior to the effect (supernova).reply
I can't remember how wide an angle gamma rays bursts can have but vaguely remember the source could be potentially millions of light years away and still deal us a fatal blow. We'd need to keep track of a LOT of stars to even have a vague chance of seeing it coming to then not be able to actually do anything about it anyway.reply
Thankfully we do track a LOT of stars. In the billions, actually!reply
Don't tempt me with a good time.reply
On the one hand…charred to death. On the other hand, debt free?reply
A decent solar flare would do almost the same thing. In 1859 there were a series of flares from the sun so strong it knocked out telegraph systems all over Europe and America. If it were to happen today it would wipe out all modern computer infrastructure and much of the power grid, plunging 1/3 of the planet into the middle ages to starve.reply
There's a really good short story called The Star about discovering the remains of an alien civilization who knew they were going to go extinct due to a gamma ray burst from a supernova.reply
There is no amount of discomfort that would allow us to change the outcome. Therefore it's useless to worry about it.reply
Waaaaaaah?reply
> The speed of light isn't just the speed of light. It's the speed of causality. It's the speed of existence. This is another one that for me fits the OP. I mean, it kinda sounds fake that C is a hard limit to _everything_ even things going in opposite directions at the speed of light. Even if you travel at the speed of light and fire a gun 'forwards'. Even 'simultaneous' is an artifact of perception and causality propagation, and isn't an absolute condition. (Just y'know, negligible short of extremely long distances). But the prospect of any sort of FTL being possible _also_ means that the universe isn't strictly causal any more, and we've also invented time travel, because they're the _same thing_. Both situations _feel_ like they 'sound fake' to me. But the fact that we may _never_ be able to explore the universe, because that hard limit will inherently prevent us going a meaningful distance hurts a bit. You can never have useful interstellar relations, because there's _nothing_ that's worth the cost of transport, and you cannot meaningfully maintain relationships with a multi-year communication lag. etc.reply
Lead-line the atmosphere?reply
nope. search "How much lead is needed to block gamma radiation?" and it's 40cm / 1.3 feet to fully block them at high energies.reply
So obviously at current tech level the planet would be toast and it'd just be dragging out the inevitable. But I guarantee that if we had any reason to think one was coming, there'd be some people building lead shelters 3' thick. Actually... anyone know how much lead is in the shelter zuckerberg is making out in hawaii...?reply
It doesn't have to be lead. Dirt works just fine, you just need 5-6 times thicker layer for the same protection.reply
Also waterreply
You can build a huge bunker but all that does is delay your doom by a few months. Unless you can protect the whole planet, the biosphere will be burned sterile and you will run out of food and oxygen.reply
Planet Hulk!reply
*Microwave a little over half the planet The bursts are extremely focused and both the Earth and source would be moving relative to each other, so it would be a very brief event. It would only hit the half of the planet facing it. That said, if it was close enough, it would fuck with the atmosphere and oceans enough to wipe everything out on the other side, too. But the burst itself would never irradiate that half.reply
I've wondered about that, makes sense it wouldn't pass through the planet. Wonder what it would be like living on the side of the planet that survived initially, *could* we survive? How long would it take for the consequences to fuck up the other side?reply
This is one of my favoritesreply
Why does it seem that I readily recall traumatic memories and often forget the good things?reply
I think Earth has plenty of candidates that should be microwaved into sterility. Or did I read that wrong?reply
The real artisto make it be not an antenna - at least not an effective one. Once you don't push a ton of electrons through the wire it is important to not have extra electrons moving around doing quantum things on the silicone.reply
I thought that worker bees were sterile and, therefore, they didn't have offspring.reply
Not quite. Their ovaries are greatly reduced in size compared to the queen's but they mostly still workreply
I knew several kids in school who had third teeth. Usually after their second one in that spot got knocked out by accident (one kid wiggled it until it came out, and got another one. Lucky buggers)reply
Yeah not many people use those anymore since they're quite bad compared to more recent models. Anyway that's one of the 1000s of human cancer cells in use. It's still weird to me to think that technically we could fix all the oncogenes, extract the nucleus and swap it on a fertilized egg and basically clone someone dead decades ago. (Extremely challenging and unethical, but the DNA is there)reply
I suppose the fact that HeLa cell cultures have been known to colonize other cultures and convert them would have something to do with that..reply
?? Not sure what you're talking about. There's routine testing to validate the origin of cell culture and they all have their own fingerprint. Cross contamination is possible but not the norm and as soon as detected everything is destroyed because it would be uselessreply
Key word here being probablyreply
Channel 4s website used to have a game where you managed the supply chain of McDonalds. One of the decisions you could make to save money on the supply chain was to do that with the cattle feed, at which point it became whack a mole to remove the infected cows before the made it to the abbatoir.reply
[Tina, if you really love me you’ll let me eat your brains!!!]([link removed]reply
Quincy Punx were such a fun bandreply
I've watched a very in depth documentary about the subject. Messed up stuff.reply
I did a paper on it years ago (for a college class). If I remember correctly it takes 10 to 30 years to develop in humans. I was in college 20 years ago...reply
I did a science report on it in the late 80s, only no one knew what it was back then. It was about scrapie in sheep and kuru and CJD in people. Prions hadn't been discovered yet, so these diseases were called "slow viruses."reply
Pray tell, where could one find said documentary?reply
It was something I found on YouTube, I don't remember who it was. I'm at work rn and will let you know if/once I find it.reply
That makes up <1% of human prion diseases. The vast majority are inherited or just spontaneously happen.reply
"So you're telling me there's a chance!" I guess I'm old, this was a movie referencereply
🎶Do you wanna PARRRRRRTTAAYYYYY!🎶reply
You think this is a costume? These clothes are a way of life!reply
I found me a fanmade edit of the modern (post-DVD) remaster of the movie that thoroughly reworks the soundtrack to match the movie at release, which apparently modern commercial releases do not.reply
Wild! I'd love to see a copy of thisreply
Prion diseases are all caused by the prion protein misfolding. Its 1 protein, PrP. Chronic wasting disease in deer. Its "mad cow" in cattle. Scrapie in sheep. Cruetzfeldt-Jakob disease in humans.reply
My bad, I wasn't trying to say that prions would make zombies, just that they wouldn't outright kill their host.reply
Prion diseases are 100% fatal though.reply
Yeah, but in a hypothetical world where a prion made human zombies, they could do their zombie thing before the prion kills them.reply
That sounds like some (alien) horror movie shit right therereply
We're lucky biology is overly complicated because it's quite freaky. I just saw a guy talking about how they're taking human pluripotent stem cells (not from embrio so it's allowed) and making anything out of it. Literally neurons talking to each other, bones, cardiac muscles, etc. All on plastic dishes and some also 3D. If I can defend biology a lot of these efforts go towards the minimization of costs and especially of animal use in pre-clinical studies (which I think we can all agree is a good thing)reply
"Baby I love your energy field."reply
Eat brains?reply
Monkeys brains, while popular in Cantonese cuisine, are not often found in Washington, D.C.!reply
The bovine form is the only one known cross over to humans. So you could eat the brains of any other animalsreply
Ooh, as someone with hypodontia I wonder if it would work on people like me? Definitely have the space for more teeth, but I wonder if it would cancel out cause my body just said "nah" to developing all it's permanent teeth properly.reply
At some level there's no way for actual living dead style zombies to exist. Our muscles need oxygen and energy to move. We need to breath and our hearts to beat for that to happen. We need our eyes to function to effectively navigate the world, and they need oxygen and energy and nutrients to function too. A fungus could potentially control our brain to its own ends, but they'd have all the same vulnerabilities as regular people plus some additional ones.reply
we're up to something like ice 18 nowreply
I heard it in the zombie's voice, lolreply
Are you ready to PAAARTY! IT'S PARTY TIME!reply
But people aren't eating infected tissue unless they already are infected, no? I can't see how in the world you'd convince healthy regular people to start eating human brain en masse.reply
Not a human brain, but maybe a cattle or venison brain. Prions diseases have been known to jump the species barrierreply
Almost all prion disease arises spontaneously or from genetics. Its incredibly rare for it to occur from eating prion containing tissue. You would have to eat a shit ton of prions too because they arent very infectious. They are already in your brain as they correctly folded form. Sometimes they just misfold. Some mutations make it more likely but most times it happens spontaneously.reply
My point is that for a zombie apocalypse, we'd need a form of transmission, they're not just randomly gonna start misfolding in billions of people at the same time for no reason. The person I replied to suggested it would spread through the consumption of infected brain tissue, but there's no reason we'd start craving brains *before* getting infected, so how would that work?reply
Wild world where zombies bust in your windows and doors to force feed you their own brainsreply
And make sure the hot naked chick joinsreply
Her name is Trash. Throw some respect on that namereply
Thank you for the information. I didn't know that. MAKE SURE YOU BRING THAT HOT NAKED CHICK TRASH WITH YOU!reply
lol it’s all good, I only know it off the top of my head because that’s one of my all-time favorite flicks. Love me some Trashreply
It's my comfort movie 😄reply
Let's get some more light over here. Trash is taking off her clothes again!reply
It takes a long time for effects to accumulate to noticeable levels. Potentially years. A more likely scenario would be something like weaponized rabies. Something like rage zombies.reply
Two-word horror story: *airborne rabies.*reply
Rabies merged with prion disease.reply
Nightmare materialreply
If, somehow, we could mutate rabies to make it airborne transferablereply
Technically you can be infected by aerosolized rabies because you have exposed neurons in your nasal passages. People have been infected in high density bat caves with no bites or scratches. You can also infect animals in the lab via intranasal aerosols.reply
I'm deeply horrified nowreply
Well, that does it. I’m never eating the brains of another spelunker.reply
I don't disagree, I was just saying to the other guy that a prion wouldn't outright kill someone.reply
There is a non zero chance that a tennis ball can pass through a random wall. It is just not likely in our current state of affairs. This makes me scratch my head.reply
I think that's only correct if you ignore the forces that make up that empty space.reply
deep cutreply
It looks like there are maybe 400,000 potential stars within 10,000 ly. Anything further probably wouldn't affect us too greatly.reply
Do these cells have some mechanism for repairing tellomeres?reply
Yeah they either have hyperactive classic telomere elongation or ALT (alternative lengthening of telomeres)reply
Isn't the zombie deer chronic wasting disease is caused by prions after all..reply
Not if it piggybacked off something else…like mutated rabies… My friend isn’t writing a fiction book about it at all, so I wouldn’t know haha.reply
>I like the fungi origin bettwr So Resident Evil 7 and 8?reply
Right but the cows diereply
I've often thought this could be a great plot for a movie. A gamma ray burst that lasts 2 hours sweeps across the earth and sterilizes 5/8 of the globe. Which 5/8, what were the effects and survival after make up the plot.reply
Can these cells be placed in a living human and cause cancer?reply
TL;DR No unless it's the original donor. It's extremely unlikely to get cancer from a cell of another person. It's harder than an organ transplant. These cells technically have some mechanisms of evasion of the immune system, but they are still from another host, so they would be recognized as "alien" by any other immune system. As humans we basically have a "self" recognition system which is pretty good. Blood is relatively simple to transplant, but it's the exception. Any other tissue has several biomarkers on the cells surface which would be immediately detected. Your self detection is actually a defense mechanism against your own immune system, to avoid killing your own cells. Whenever it fails you get autoimmune diseases. Sorry for the wall of text. This was quite a sensitive topic decades ago, people thought cancer could be contagious and cancer patients where somewhat isolated (medically and socially).reply
Sounds interesting.reply
Mad cow diseasereply
I see tte hypothetical zombie outbreak caused by a crazy variation of rabies. Just sayingreply
So in this scenario the non-zombies become zombies by eating zombie brains? Because that doesn't sound likely to happen...reply
Wait, can you provide more sources? I’m not even joking, this is pivotal to my PhD research. My current project is modeling the spread of a zombie outbreak using an agent-based model. I found lots of different interpretations of zombies, but most takes use a modified strain of rabies or another naturally occurring virus. The only one I could find which used a prion disease was maybe *Train to Busan*, since it has that scene of a zombie deer. Typically diseases don’t jump species, but prion disease is one that can. Do you have any sources (preferably academic) that suggest prion disease would be the most likely cause of a zombie apocalypse?reply
Good news: there's a source and it's a book. It's a science public engagement comedy book called "Zombie Science 1Z". Written by a collaboration between a comedian and scientists at the University of Glasgow some time around 2011 (ish). It goes through the science step by step and is also rather silly. Bad news: I'm not sure if it's still available. Book link [link removed] YouTube channel with various clips [link removed] Fan record of the live comedy show [link removed]reply
There's a tribe in Farcry Primal that are very hostile, and cannibalistic. They believe eating people will cure their terrible migraines (brain swelling). Likely the prions from the people they eat are why they all have brain swelling. But I'm not Doctor.reply
"The zombie disease spreads by humans biting zombies" sounds like it wouldn't cause an apocalypse, but then COVID happened. People would absolutely start biting zombies to own the libs.reply
Oh that’s awesome! Love Mexica history in particular. The Nahuatl language is so cool.reply
Lolzreply
Rabiesreply
Upon GĂźgling: [yikes]([link removed]reply
So the rich can survive in their bunkers.reply
They aren't dying from being anti-vax though since most people around them are vaccinated.reply
I am reading this without my glasses and was like "what do you mean Granma rays?reply
Except it takes so long for any effects to accumulate. Potentially years. And I would think if there was something like that that cascaded through the brain super fast it would cause too much damage at once and completely destroy the brain anywayreply
Well except if that is how you catch it what would make a non zombie eat infected brains in the first place?reply
This is the premise of V Wars. An ancient prion was discovered in the Arctic and it started unlocking a dormant gene from another species of human that got intermingled in with homo sapiens. Millions of people had the gene and started turning after being exposed to it.reply
I don't think we have to worry about a prion zombie apocalypse unless a lot of (healthy) people suddenly develop a taste for brains. I've also never heard of any recorded behaviour of infected animals or humans approaching other organisms to infect them.reply
Yeah, brain is the only part of human that I do not use in the kitchen at all.reply
It’s a wizard. Burn him!reply
Does that mean that the Queen **isn't it the only one that reproduces? :O**reply
Eh.....Some of the others try, but they usually don't succeed. Someone else asked about this and I went into a bit more detail here: [link removed]reply
See: Mad-Cow Disease Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease Kuru Natural selection does not favor Ophiocordyceps infecting humans in any significant way. “The Last of Us” is a video game. Toxoplasma gondii is a parasite that people also like to think about as a mind-controlling organism. Not the case.reply
It would work if prion disease made the patient look, smell and taste delicious so people want to bite into infected tissue and then they get infected. So basically reverse zombies.reply
Expressing my fondness, lolreply
How do we know that the speed of light is also the speed of causality? And by extension that going faster would mean that the universe isn't strictly causal? Not doubting that notion, I'm just really curious about how we could know something like that.reply
We haven't seen anything that travels faster than light. Would be kinda hard to, since it'd leave your eyeball before it "got there." Doesn't mean they're not out there. Once our science gets a little better, it might run into snags that can only be explained by the speed of light NOT being the universe's maximum speed. And our smartest will take it from there.reply
Eh, it'd probably only get half the planet. The other side would be insulated by, well...the planet. Maybe some bleedover on the sides, but the entire planet wouldn't be sterilized. Probably.reply
Or someone else in the "dark forest" dealing with a threat.reply
eventually it could be a possibilityreply
Veritasium video I watched about it: [link removed]reply
But what if that truck sends you into a magical realm where you are the most special person and every girl around wants to date you? It could happen.reply
"you have just been isekai-ed"reply
The effects it has are weirdly nightmarish, and neutralizing prions is weirdly difficult. Most pathogens have some crucial weakness. Pick one: salt, nitrate/nitrite, acid, freezing, or moderate amounts of heat. Virtually every other potential foodborne pathogen can be neutralized by at least one of those things. Prions? Nothing. You have to literally incinerate the infected material to neutralize prions. In modern meat processing, virtually every part of the animal is used for something. Even if it cant be sold as food, it'll get used for an incredible variety of byproducts. But cattle brains? Straight to the trash. You just cant do anything with them without having a small risk of a prion-based infection.reply
I’ll Google it but why?reply
Its a protein in your brain and if it misfolds in a certain way you can lose the ability to sleep until you die.reply
Jebus. Out of morbid curiosity, how does not being able to sleep kill you?reply
You need sleep for proper brain function, healing, and all sorts of body processes. It takes awhile to kill you, usually a few months. Its called fatal familial insomnia because its usually inherited. Although, theres a spontaneous form as well. Thats just one presentation of human prion disease! Theres others like Kuru too. It depends on which brain areas are being affected by the prions.reply
Do you remember when people were freaking out about Mad Cow Disease \~20 years ago in England, and so they banned beef and had to slaughter millions of cows? I sorta forgot some of the details; the epidemic started in the 80s and only in 2016 was the last case in humans. I don’t think it kills you by not letting you sleep; I thought it kills you by rotting out your brain and one of the first symptoms of it is not being able to sleep. The thing about prions that makes them kinda scary is that you can’t kill it by cooking or freezing infected meat because it isn’t alive; so all of the normal things to prevent food-borne diseases doesn’t do anything to prevent it. You also can’t wash infected meat to get rid of it.reply
The symptoms of prion diseases depend on which brain areas are infected by the growing prion fibrils. Fatal insomnia is one possibility among many.reply
All of those words terrify mereply
Read The Family That Couldn't Sleep by D.T. Max. A very fascinating and easy way to understand prion disease.reply
That’s a nicer way to put it… Left out the part it unravels the proteins and makes your brain look like a sponge with all the holes.reply
It actually only unravels the prion protein, PrP. Prion disease is just this single protein misfolding into long chains called fibrils. PrP is highly expressed on neurons and is a cell surface protein. These normal healthy PrP proteins keep adding to the growing fibrils until the neuron dies. Healthy PrP is actually required for prion disease to spread. If you make a knockout animal that lacks PrP, they cannot get a prion disease, even if you give them large quantities of prions.reply
It's one possible prion disease, but the principle of every prion diseases are basically the same : one protein in the brain misfolds, and become a twisted cog, and to force itself to work, will twist the other cogs, that will twist other cogs...reply
They are infectious proteins that misfold. They can be passed down genetically, happen because of infection, or spontaneously occur. They also happen in many different versions of life. They aren't always bad, though. The URE3 prion makes it so that yeast can grow in nitrogen poor environments. And since prions appear in organisms like yeast, we can use them to figure out the exact portion of the protein that causes the misfolding.reply
Prions or fungi will wipe out humanity if a cosmic event or nuclear war doesn't first.reply
I think conventional war with long lasting poisoning of water supplies is the likely thing to wipe us out.reply
OK, hear me out, prions in the water supply.reply
water in the prion supply, perchancereply
Fungi in the water contaminating the prion supply.reply
Geneva needs to update the list...reply
I think this, if done deliberately, would already fall under biological warfare.reply
Good thing all the jackasses in power boats like to dump gas and oil in fresh water every chance they get.reply
In the future we could potentially genetically engineer ourselves to eliminate prion disease. If we modify the gene that codes for the PrP protein to create a variant that can't misfold in this way then it won't be able to act as a prion any more.reply
Why, because those two things have had the most pop culture attention for the last few years?reply
>Prions or fungi will wipe out humanity Some people are [naturally immune]([link removed] to prions. They are still scary as fuck, and I suppose at large enough scale, they could wipe out humanity. I 100% do not want to die to a prion disease. I think humanity would probably survive a massive prion outbreak. Might make the black death look tame by comparison, but I think we'd get through it. I have thought fungi might bring the end of humanity, I think that's very possible.reply
TIL: A small population of people in Paupua New Guinea are completely immune to prion diseases. They also found the genetic mutation responsible for complete immunity. G127V (Ai Overview) So prions will definitely not wipe out humans. Especially with the development of a gene therapy.reply
Humans have been "predicting" some kind of major extinction event for thousands of years. The ultimate truth is that its far more likely that we'll just keep choking the life out of this planet as we have been so far.reply
Human civilization's existence will change significantly anyway - with or without major climate change.reply
but it would be far from extinction. Like every if only 10% live which is unlikely to be that low, thats still almost 1 billion people.reply
Nah we're definitely headed for population collapse due to environmental causesreply
My best friend died this year of Sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, a rare, fatal, and rapidly progressive degenerative brain disorder caused by abnormally folded prions. 45 years old. No warning. Nothing we could do. God, I miss him every day.reply
Yeah. I was going to say the same. Ive never known anyone who passed away from prion disease but my mother had a very aggressive form of Parkinson's disease. She went from a perfectly healthy 55 year old to dead in 4 years. Lost all control of her mind and body. It was horrible. I cant imagine that but accelerated.reply
Just watched the recent Veritasium that covered this.reply
almost guaranteed that guy did as well.reply
Goes to show the influential role in science education / communication that it has.reply
Easy for you to say, when your life doesn't depend on the existence of a particular stereoisomer. But wait, we all do ...reply
Similar concept to stalking polymorphs. Any of the drugs we depend on could suddenly become unproducible tomorrow.reply
My mom was a manager at a biotech lab that used blood products when they got a batch later discovered to be contaminated with prions. It had already been started processing, and they couldn’t figure out how to decontaminate the equipment. I’m not clear but I think they may have just sealed it up and tossed itreply
Do Not Read Cat's Cradle!reply
*No damn cat... no damn cradle*reply
This. I've seen a deer with CWD and it's shit straight from a zombie movie.reply
Kurt Vonnegut is supposed to have responded very smugly when told about prions.reply
Getting prions from ingesting them is incredibly rare. Prion disease is already very rare and aquired prion diseases are <1% of the total. They almost always originated from genetics or just spontaneously occur. If you are worried about prions in your food, you should be significantly more worried about the prions already in your brain as that is wayyyyy more likely.reply
Maybe rare. But I want to eat a _lot_ of people and Kuru is no fun.reply
It’s good to have goalsreply
Fun fact: they are running the first human trial of a treatment for a prion disease called Cruetzfeld Jakobs, which is extremely rare but widely considered to be one of the worst ways to die. Can confirm because my grandma died from it a couple years ago. But cheers to smart scientists who are hopefully one step closer to figuring this horrifying thing out!reply
Forbidden conga line.reply
Okay, so slightly less afeared, but how can we use high heat, bleach, and a few other things on the prior without destroying my (whatever organ this affects)?reply
The paper describes a theoretical way. Injecting your brain with a virus that inactivates the PrP gene.reply
Busy busy busyreply
supreply
It could've already started unraveling but just not here yetreply
Completely possible, 50/50 chance. It either happens or it don't. Luckily, we won't ever know because any information we could have about it happening would arrive at the same time as the event!reply
> It's terrifying because you can't have immunity to it (to my knowledge), and it can't be killed like a living pathogen. I remember that resulted in the most amusing webMD diagnostic question. What's your main symptom? Trembling Have you taken part in canabalism in new guinea?reply
Yo I used to listen to Ice Nine Kills as a teenager and I just now learned the meaning of their namereply
Just to throw a spanner in this: We have absolutely *not* exposed water (or at least, other similar elements) to some pressures, pressures that are actually *more common than what we experience (or space, underwater etc). We are very bad at doing high pressure stuff. It's just really fucking hard. But every single planet has pressures inside it we can't even begin to replicate for materials like water (we can hold a certain type of crystal between two bits of diamond, but can't test other materials that way). I think the best we've done for a chamber-type experiment is only half-way to the pressure found at the earth's core. And we can only do that at great heat.reply
No cure, and virtually indestructible. They’ll survive cremation. And you technically have like, a LOT of them in your body right now. They just aren’t a problem unless they misform just the right way.reply
D:reply
I’m pretty sure prions don’t “survive” cremation. They’re ultimately just proteins.reply
Virginia Dept of Wildlife Recources says 900°F for several hours before they can be reliably destroyed. (Virginia has had an issue with Chronic Wasting Disease in deer which is caused by prions).reply
Family friend passed away from this, it was absolutely awful to watch. He had a full life ahead of him as a physician and died in his mid-30s.reply
Honestly, I’ve known enough people who have died of Creutzfeldt-Jacobs in the USA that I wonder if it isn’t more prevalent than we think. My sample size is small. I’m one person obvs and I’ve known 3 persons who died of it. I was working in the UK during mad cow. One of the first people who had it, they treated her as mentally ill. She died.reply
> My sample size is small. I’m one person obvs and I’ve known 3 persons who died of it. Don't eat at this guy's housereply
Its only 1 protein that misfolds, the prion protein "PrP". The misfolded PrP acts as a template for the normal PrP proteins to misfold. This keeps happening until you have long chains of these proteins called fibrils. These form on the cell surface of neurons. PrP is a cell surface protein.reply
I think I remember reading that a good chunk of people actually are genetically resistant to kuru. The really funny thing is…scientists think that kind of immunity can only develop through natural selection. Deep in our past, a large enough portion of our ancestors practiced cannibalism that selection favored those who could survive itreply
ELI5?reply
Some chemicals can have more than one crystalline structure. Like, diamond and coal and graphite are all just carbon but in different crystal forms. The thing is, none of these forms are preferable to the other. Things just form in one way or the other depending on the conditions at the time. You can't put a diamond in charcoal dust and cause the carbon in the charcoal to re-crystallize in the diamond form. Sometimes these chemicals have different properties in their different forms. For example the simplest sugar, glucose, is actually D-glucose or dextrose, a sugar that polarizes light to the right. There is also an L-glucose that polarizes light to the left. The two chemical formulas are identical, C6 H12 O6, but the crystal structures [are mirror images]([link removed] Because the chemical structures are the same but mirrored, the two have identical physical properties, unlike charcoal and diamond. And in our mouths, L-glucose tastes just as sweet as D-glucose. However, because it is shaped wrong to our digestive enzymes, our body cannot digest L-glucose. So, what if you have a chemical formula with more than one way of crystallizing, like graphite and diamond, except that one is more stable than the other? The PP mentioned Ritonavir, a drug for HIV developed in the late 90s. What was originally developed is now called Form 1. In 1998, a different chemical structure, now called Form 2, arose suddenly during the manufacturing process. The thing is, this new structure is more stable than the original, so if you're trying to make the original but there's any sort of contamination by Form 2, all of your drug will be made in Form 2. And because part of the increased stability of this new version means it's less soluble, it's also less bio available, so it doesn't really work as a drug anymore. It cost Abbott Laboratories a quarter of $1 billion to develop a new way to manufacture this drug so they would get it in the form they want it. They've now discovered five different forms of this chemical, all with different properties. So back to prions, they are an identical chemical to something that the body needs, but in a crystal structure that the body cannot use, kind of like L-glucose. When they show up in the brain they block the biological processes and kill off the areas of the brain that they affect. The technical name for mad cow disease is bovine spongiform encephalitis or BSE. The word "spongiform" refers to the way a brain suffering from long-term infection has empty spaces in it looking like the holes that a beer in cellulose sponges. In the book *Cat's Cradle* by Kurt Vonnegut, a scientist discovers what they call Ice 9. This is a form of frozen water that is solid to something like 120°F. This is more stable than our current version of ice. If you were to drop a single molecule of Ice 9 into a glass of water, it would act as a template, and all the liquid water would instantly change to that solid form, and you would have to heat it quite a bit to return it to its liquid state. The thing is, it's often hard to tell if a polymorph of a chemical exists, so there's no way for us to predict when something like Ritonavir Form 2 or the glycoprotein Pr P^C that causes CJD and BSE.reply
Its like when a cool kid smokes near grade schoolers. Sooner or later they all start smoking and eventually they kill you.reply
Where's a good place to read about that. I have no clue what it is, but a small suspicion and im really intrigued alreadyreply
>Learning about disappearing polymorphs gave me existential dread. >> Where's a good place to read about that. Cat’s Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut 👉reply
Awesome band too!reply
Don't get madreply
Literally my first thought and people think I’m overreacting when I talk about my fear of prionsreply
i probably have prions ;-;reply
Prions, the biological version of Strange Matterreply
One day, some otherwise unremarkable virus or bacteria will mutate the ability to generate prions as a waste product (or some lunatic will figure out how to add it with CRISPR). Then it's game over as we'll not catch on til it's months or years after it's too late to do anything about it. This and airborne rabies are the sort of brainfarts that keep me up at night.reply
Prions are just the PrP protein that misfolded. Its really hard to aquire a prion disease from the environment. Almost all prion disease >99% are genetic or spontaneous. You have PrP right now in your brain on every neuron. Its a surface protein highly expressed in neurons. It doesnt need to be mutated to fuck you up. Its funny you mention CRISPR because actually a group packaged CRISPR materials inside a virus and injected it into mouse brains to shut off PrP expression. This renders the mice resistant to prions and helps alleviate disease symptoms. [link removed]reply
I work closely with the health department in my county and we had a conversation today about prions! They needed to borrow a crate for a possibly rabid raccoon and they said if it was positive they could just toss the crate and I told them I’ll take it back and clean it cause rabies doesn’t live on surfaces very easy, and I would be more worried about parvo. Then the environmentalist said she only worries about prions. She said if there was a case of prions she would start digging to the core of the earth because that shit isn’t anything she ever wants to come across.reply
You should mention she is wayyyyyyyyyy more likely to get a prion disease spontaneously then aquired from the environment. Aquired prion diseases are <1% of the total. Almost all are spontaneous or genetic.reply
Related: Strange matter.reply
I think I understand the relation between the concept of prions and strange matter, but other than that...? Look, I'm not terribly smart. I read the Wikipedia page and a couple of reddit posts on this, but I don't even know what a regular quark does, nor why it would stay "strange" once created, or even what that actually means. Could you explain using small words for me?reply
I think Kurzgesagt covered this. [link removed] Same idea in broad strokes. Something achieves a certain odd configuration, beginning a chain reaction where all of its brothers do the same. Catastrophically.reply
isnt that technically how the body works tho? if one cell ends up having a disrupted replication cycle and the protein is misformed, all the other cells after it are more likely to echo that misformed protein... bc the body is only as good as its last cell was. its one of the reasons cancer grows so fast--- bc when tumor supressor genes are malfunctioning, they spit out fucky dna which leads to fucky cells which leads to fucky shit. they technically *shouldnt* bend the wrong way but the body is v influenced by whats immediately around it.reply
Makes me think of mirror-image chemical structures.reply
Veritasium just did an episode on Ritonavir a week ago. [The disaster I never imagined having to worry about]([link removed]reply
Isn't there a thought repeating in that barbaric brain of yours? The name Friendly? Mr. Edgar Friendly? Don't you have someone to kill?reply
Not sure how that truck is gonna get inside my house, but good luck!reply
Upvote for Vonnegutreply
You know, I wonder if we'll ever make a material that basically just tears us apart... Like, if it touches you, it just rips your skin apart clean like a butter knife vs butter... Prions are kind of analogous to that.reply
And they don't degrade at all like normal proteins do...reply
Polymorphs too…same concept just not organic.reply
Peer pressure is such a bitchreply
It's a horrible horrible death, too. They're also incredibly resistant to typical surgical sterilization practices, so you can contract prion illness from surgical instruments if they were previously used on a patient with unknown prion disease. Crazy.reply
False Vacuum Decay?reply
Is this like Ice 9? I’ve never heard of this concept before other than Vonnegut’s idea, but it’s been so long. I can’t remember if I’m remembering that accurately.reply
Me googling prion. ??reply
Oh they're gonna have fun with this one then 𓁼𓁠𓁛𓁟𓁦𓀔𓀇𓀅𓀋𓀡𓀡𓀕𓀠𓀧 𓀷𓀷𓀿𓀿𓁀𓁶𓁰𓁴𓁿𓂀𓁾𓁵𓁯𓂞𓂤𓂗 𓃃𓂾𓂺𓂹𓃞𓃙𓃖𓃓𓃕𓃓𓃜 𓃘𓃙𓃟𓃛𓃞𓃞𓂺reply
what the hell is this 𓂺reply
You are asking the wrongest person possible. I have zero qualifications in translating ancient manuscript. But I do believe that is meant to represent a penis.reply
Fun fact. Windows devices are hardcoded to censor that particular unicode character if it appears by itself. Because they're prudes that don't know how to live a little.reply
Does it sensor it if you do this? ( . )( . ) 𓂺reply
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Oh I think you know what that is. Crazy there’s a hieroglyph of it though, wonder if that’s real.reply
It's 100% real. [link removed] Basically it means exactly what it looks like, male/penis. It's also pronounced "mt" and has been found in some words like mtwt meaning poisonreply
It's also in the word c3 (pronounced ah-ah) meaning great. Hieroglyphs are fun. Is it syllabic? is it a determinative? Is it spelled inconsistently? Yes.reply
>Oh they're gonna have fun with this one then >𓂺 I am more concerned about this 𓂹 onereply
Joseph Smith would know. Iykyk.reply
Wingdongsreply
Oooh, fun Egyptian hieroglyph A055 Egyptian hieroglyph A028 Egyptian hieroglyph A023 Egyptian hieroglyph A027 Egyptian hieroglyph A034 Egyptian hieroglyph A004 Egyptian hieroglyph A001 Egyptian hieroglyph A001A Egyptian hieroglyph A002 Egyptian hieroglyph A015 Egyptian hieroglyph A015 Egyptian hieroglyph A005 Egyptian hieroglyph A014 Egyptian hieroglyph A021 Egyptian hieroglyph A037 Egyptian hieroglyph A037 Egyptian hieroglyph A045 Egyptian hieroglyph A045 Egyptian hieroglyph A046 Egyptian hieroglyph A100 Egyptian hieroglyph A094 Egyptian hieroglyph A098 Egyptian hieroglyph A105 Egyptian hieroglyph D010 Egyptian hieroglyph A104 Egyptian hieroglyph A099 Egyptian hieroglyph A093 Egyptian hieroglyph D104 Egyptian hieroglyph D110 Egyptian hieroglyph D097 Egyptian hieroglyph E001 Egyptian hieroglyph D120 Egyptian hieroglyph D116 Egyptian hieroglyph D115 Egyptian hieroglyph E018 Egyptian hieroglyph E013 Egyptian hieroglyph E010 Egyptian hieroglyph E007 Egyptian hieroglyph E009 Egyptian hieroglyph E007 Egyptian hieroglyph E016 Egyptian hieroglyph E012 Egyptian hieroglyph E013 Egyptian hieroglyph E019 Egyptian hieroglyph E015 Egyptian hieroglyph E018 Egyptian hieroglyph E018 Egyptian hieroglyph D116 You're welcome. ;)reply
So THAT'S where Hoffa's body is buried. Never woulda guessed.reply
Ouch, my soul!reply
Oh lordreply
If you can see it, show me on the doll where blind people touched you.reply
They probably missed.reply
You could just...show it on me where the blind touched. Unless I have to pay for it.reply
I don't know if Neutrinos do that too, ionizing particles from cosmic radiation can cause bit-flips (ions, electrons photons). There was one election somewhere in Europe where a candidate got an anomalous amount of additional votes. I don't know how much it was but it surely was a power of two. I think there are also reports of near-accidents in aviation. The more affected you are by cosmic radiation (i.e. aviation, space-things) the more a problem this is. But sure can cause problems at ground level too.reply
I hate curtains morereply
Wait, really? It has never occurred to me to wonder how deaf people would experience audio hallucinationsreply
There are also cases of deaf people working in microwave radar stations experiencing the microwave auditory effect which causes them to hear clicks and pops because the effect works by pulsed cavitation bypassing the traditional mechanism for hearing. I read once that it could be confused for the symptoms of schizophrenia in a deaf person if the fact they worked near a major source of microwave energy was never taken into account, or unknown by their doctor. I have schizophrenia, and when I was delusional I learned all about this sort of thing while trying to find a way to science out why I was hearing voices. I was basically in denial of my own condition. Eventually I was hospitalized and put on medication, and I’m doing great these days. Learned a lot of scary shit about microwaves though! [link removed]reply
Iirc one of the top times in super Mario 64 speed running is impossible to replicate without some kind of interference from a neutrino or some kind of ionising particle at a specific spot on a specific level, I can't remember which off the top of my head however unfortunately.reply
this can also probably explain how the alien from alien isolation snuck up behind me and i didn't hear anything and just waited until i turned around.reply
That's a bugreply
i thought it's a xenomorph?reply
It's in the Tick Tock Clock level, pannenkoek2012 made a video about it, but it's unlikely that a neutrino was the cause.reply
What makes you say that? As far as I am aware the glitch is replicable by flipping a bit, and no other method of flipping that bit has been proven to work. I'm not saying it 100% happened, but AFAIK it is the current most likely cause.reply
I personally wish to believe it was a bit flip from a neutrino, but from what I've seen, people are saying it's more likely a hardware error from another source.reply
Isn't there also something cultural about it? I recall reading somewhere that the seriously disturbed schizophrenics feeling compelled to do bad things are mostly a western thing, and in Africa they tend to hallucinate helpful spirits or something? Not sure how scientific that was but really interesting if so.reply
I remember reading an article in CPU magazine that NASA was buying up 286 CPUs after the 386 chips debuted because particles in space would energize the smaller form factor processors, causing malfunctions, but the 286 chips the circuits were large enough that to avoid that.reply
Holy shit, Eridians.reply
This isn't my area of expertise, but I do know that different cortexes can be remapped or taken over. I wonder if some sort of visual cortex lobotomy like procedure would remove the issue? Obviously that's super unethical to actually test but it sounds interesting.reply
They would easily find a volunteer or two lol, I'd happily take a new brain surgery if it's got a 0.0000000001% chance of stopping seizures.reply
Unfortunately you would have to convince the people who fund science grants, not scientists themselves. I'm sure there's a(lovingly) crazy person who would perform these types of surgery if only if was legal or funded. Edit:spelling mistakesreply
Yeah I have 0 experience with the ethics boards etc but I'm guessing they're all pretty damn conservative.reply
Dude, you are probably 100% correct, and on top of that radiation from the sun can also randomly flip bits. I'm amazed that at the size of transistors in modern chips we have any reliability or consistency. Between sub-atomic particle bombardment and quantum physics our modern technology is astounding.reply
Neutrinos don't interact with matter enough for bit flipping to be at all likely. Cosmic rays, however, definitely cause measurable bit-flipping (soft errors). Soft Error Rate testing is often done at high altitudes for this reason. If you have data stored in a device that you're taking on an airplane, be sure to have it backed up. SER can easily go up 10x or more.reply
I feel there’s a song out there called “I’m my own best friend”. I have chats all the time with me. No feeling of it being another persona though.reply
Oh shit is the other guy not meant to be real. I need help lol 😭reply
Are you sure you’re not the false persona…?reply
I have brain damage related "hallucinations" that at one point were a precursor to a seizure. I very much relate to that reflexive snap back to reality that comes from anxiety. Like if I'm falling down the rabbit hole into seizureland I can just dig my nails in really hard and pull myself back up.reply
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TTS and STT and braille keyboards are things that existreply
I know there is culturally different manifestations, IIRC in some places in africa the voices are a lot less negative than in the west.reply
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I know this is probably a sensitive topic, so feel free to ignore me! What exactly does shutting your inner monologue feel like or how do you achieve that? Do you think it's only something you learned as a trauma response or a more general thing that you didn't know you could do before? I have some experience with mediation And I know it has been said to to cause states of consciousness without an inner monologue, but this sounds different.reply
Nah, you’re good! It’s difficult to say. When it started I would start to “hear” my inner voice narrate, but then suddenly it would just stop, and I’d have a feeling of anxiousness. So, very clearly a PTSD like response. What’s interesting is that over time that stopped happening more and more until I have been more or less conditioned to not use an internal monologue at all. I just sort of process things as they come, I guess? Here’s an interesting video about the same thing happening to Hank Green that might be helpful in illustrating it under a neurotypical view. [link removed] Edit: One thing I will add here When I was younger my father forced me to take a speed reading class at Slyvan Learning Center which was like a tutoring service. I specifically remember them teaching me techniques like one called “chunking” where you would take a group of words at a time, scan them, and continue on, and the goal was to erase your internal monologue, and teach you to quickly process information by sight without thinking about it. I hated this so much. I have a very artistic brain, and would read slow like a narrator from a book on tape for example, and I really liked this about myself. I could see the advantage of using the speed reading technique for technical reading and studying, but that was about it, and I didn’t think it was worth it at the time, so I categorically rejected the speed reading class, and it’s techniques did not stick with me after this. This was probably when I was about 12 or 13. Now when I read I still read rather slow, but there is no internal monologue, so who knows. Brains are weird.reply
I really appreciate your response! The human brain so fucking weird dude, it's insanely fascinating.reply
This is fucking goldreply
If our eyes were designed to see neutrinos we would not see a shadow at all.reply
Hello, I have a degree in physics and for a few years after college worked for the company that made the acrylic components of the detectors. (The one i worked on was located about a mile underground in Western Canada) The fascinating point for me was 'Why does this not happen more?' Like, there are trillion apon trillions of atoms in our planet, ourselves included, and we see this effect almost never. My hot non-scientific take is this is what 'luck' is. A completely random event that flips a quark or electrons spin the opposite and we see the end result.reply
Wait, really? It has never occurred to me to wonder how deaf people would experience audio hallucinationsreply
I was recording wrestling matches at a tournament my brother was in. Just his and his classmates. One of them was blind. I was recording his match and my brother asked what I was doing and I told him, "recording the matches so you guys can eatch them later or whatever." "Ok. But he's blind?" "Ok, then he won't watch it." He points to a lady 3 feet away from me, "dude that's his mom." "Ok? She could watch it."reply
Or feel it going...reply
Their fingertips will be sore from that *burn*reply
Deciding whether to educate or let you have your joke (not that I think you need the education probably, but many unfortunately do). I'll let you have your joke, but... Blind people absolutely can and do access and read what's on Reddit. They use something called a "screen reader" that reads the text aloud and sometimes a "braille display" to convert the text to braille on an electronic device so they can read tactilely. Good joke, though. :)reply
It's got such a small mass that we don't actually know what that mass is. It was only 1998 that we really confirmed that they even have mass.reply
The side effects are identical to what is happening to my 83 yr old Mother. Dementia materialized and is kicking our ass in 6 months. The Neurologist did MRI scans, but they just said Dementia.reply
Utter bollocks, the blindreply
Im not a fan of refs eitherreply
500 WPM and grandpa voice, lads. They won’t understand a word.reply
And that... is where you are so wrong. Hahaha. I am completely blind.reply
How did the hieroglyphs work for you? Was it a description or a numerical code?reply
You forgot to mention just how pure the water in those detectors has to be. The water is so pure it's not safe to drink. It's so pure that when a technician dropped a wrench in the detector in Japan, they went back out the next day to get it, and the wrench had *dissolved.* Not rusted away, it was *gone.* There was no visible trace of the wrench. In the course of normal filtering, they're still finding traces of iron, chromium, and a couple of other metals in the water. Carbon too, of course, you need carbon for steel, but carbon can dissolve into the water out of the air, so it's not a particular telltale.reply
Daredevil would like a word...reply
The deaf are the ones that irk me. Worst tippers I've ever servedreply
WHAT????!reply
Expand on this inner monologue you mention you had, previous to the medication. I mean, we all have an inner voice. Sometimes it can act like a gut feeling to direct one in their decisions and can be seen as a positive thing. Describe yours, if you would be so kind, and why it was problematic.reply
Best way I can describe it was before I had auditory hallucinations I would have an internal monologue. When I read, I would hear a voice in my head reading. When I thought about things, I would have a voice in my head in my voice describing or narrating what I was doing. Same when I was solving problems. Like talking out loud, but instead just in my head. When I had psychosis, this became many voices that I had no control over. I would talk out loud to them, and they would respond. They seemingly could “read” my thoughts, and would judge me, and other horrible things. They would never shut up. Some were friendly, others were most definitely not. They would just talk and talk and talk, and it sometimes sounded like they were right next to me, or other times like my old internal monologue would “Sound” like the voice was coming from inside my head, but again I had no control over these voices, and couldn’t influence them in any way. They were very paranoid, etc. They were problematic because they were relentless. Think like several voices talking over you all the time, and convincing you that they can read your inner most secrets, trauma, shameful things, doubts, etc. Or say you’re trying to sleep and something just keeps screaming, like you’re hearing literal screams. I won’t spend too much time on this part because it’s notoriously difficult to explain psychosis to anyone who hasn’t experienced it. Basically reality for you is not the same as reality for other people for a time. It just isn’t, and once you’re better it’s just so hard to try and translate the experience. Trust me, my career is in audio engineering, and am very accomplished in that field, and I’m an artist as well, and I toyed with the idea of trying to make a simulation of what auditory psychosis is like, but soon realized it was impossible to do correctly. A big reason for this is that the delusional part of psychosis is often overlooked. You’re not just hallucinating you’re also just like on another planet, and it’s pretty much impossible to pull you back to reality until you’ve been successfully medicated and have stabilized. It’s not as simple as you seeing something that’s not really there, or hearing someone who isn’t actually speaking. After about three months on medication, they went away, and everything was very eerily quiet. Whenever I would read, I no longer heard a voice in my head reading. When I problem solved, I no longer had an internal voice solving the problem. If I wanted to solve problems like that I’d have to speak out loud, and do it that way. Now I don’t think this is true aphantasia because often I do start to have an internal voice sometimes, but because I went for so long experiencing hallucinations that were out of my control, my brain simply shuts down that internal voice the instant it starts as like a PTSD response to not having control over those voices in the past. If I had true aphantasia like as the other person commenting has said, many people do, I simply wouldn’t have any internal monologue or thinking voice at all. I said I miss my pre-schizophrenia narration and thinking voice because it was part of how I process information, and not having access to it has left me not as sharp as I used to be. I’m slower to grasp concepts, or hold on to information for shorter amounts of time than I used to when I would process things in my head with my internal voice. It’s important to state that schizophrenic auditory hallucinations come in many types. Some people hear the auditory hallucinations as clear as a person talking to them in the same room, and others hear them as internal voices similar to their inner monologue if they didn’t have aphantasia. I was a mix of both. I hope that helps clear some things up.reply
Wow thank you for typing this up and explaining. So interesting but so sad and terrifying you had to go through this. You’re amazing!reply
Thank you!reply
Thanks for the thorough explanation. My aunt has schizophrenia and I have never really understood how it could be. I don't know if hers was like yours, but it helps to understand a small fraction. She also had borderline, so there was a lot.to deal with for her. RIP.reply
Sorry to hear about your Aunt. I met a lot of people with chronic schizophrenia or adjacent illnesses in the hospital, and have a few friends that came out of the wood work once I was out of the hospital to tell me that they also had the same diagnosis, but just never talked about it. It’s such a debilitating disease, and also having other friends who suffer from BPD I can only imagine how difficult that had to be for her, and for you, the people she cared about. At my worst I completely turned on my family convinced they were part of some grand conspiracy against me, but luckily they have all, for the most part, forgiven me and realize that that person wasn’t me, it was my illness. They’re just happy I’m alive and lived through it. Wishing you and your family the best, take carereply
Thank you for this.reply
Not everyone has an inner voice/monologue.reply
This little factoid had always been amazing to me. It must be so quiet in their minds.reply
And so easy to meditate 🧘‍♀️ my inner monologue just won't shut up long enough to let me meditate. I even have it when sleeping. I do my best problem solving when asleep!reply
I read somewhere that if you have aphantasia you are also less likely to suffer from schizophrenia.reply
Oh good [Kurzgesagt]([link removed] did a thing on itreply
Don’t bother explainingreply
Ooh so what would happen if it struck a PC component?reply
I've heard the only reason humans don't get internal fungi infections is that our bodies are too hot for them. As a result we never developed antibodies to fight them. But fungi are starting to get more heat resistant...reply
Found my new band name.reply
If that isn’t the ultimate prog-metal album title, I don’t know what is.reply
Right now everything indicates that developed, wealthy societies are unable to exist for long. The more comfortable and knowledgeable we are, the less likely we are to procreate. So the true Great Filter is that - either we stay poor, uneducated and constantly struggling and reproduce or we improve our conditions and we ultimately die out as a populace.reply
Considering how insanely vivid hallucinations can be with psychedelics, I have a strong feeling that someone with aphantasia would have no issues hallucinating.reply
And now I’m curious whether hallucinogens are different for people with aphantasiareply
i know this is a joke, but in the event readers arent aware; there are methods that blind and visually impaired people use to access the web; like text to speech (website accessibility score is impacted by properly described images)... and one of the better uses of AI is actually as an assistive tool to convert visual input into audio outputreply
Cremation of human remains is typically done at 1400F+ for 1-3 hours.reply
As someone with aphantasia, I would imagine schizophrenia would manifest primarily as auditory hallucinations rather than visual.reply
So it is replacing the proteins with themselves and then unraveling? I watched a documentary about it a year ago. Wish I hadn’t lol.reply
Hey, do you have any tips on shutting down the inner monologue? I'm not schizophrenic, but I have Binocular Vision Dysfunction which causes something similar. For me it's more like constant rumination of myself - I literally can't think about what I want. It has destroyed my life lol.reply
I have aphantasia but a constant inner monologuereply
What you've posted is interesting and i feel for you! I recently listened to a podcast where a neuroscientist described how he believes [we dream to stop other parts of our brain from overpowering/taking-over our visual cortex]([link removed] Perhaps the inner monologue part of your brain has gone awry and taken over other parts? Since our brain's are neuroplastic/have the ability to reorganize and rewire its neural connections based on the activities/behaviors we partake in, perhaps by not using you inner monologue and keeping it in check those connections will be weakened and it'll safeguard you from anymore episodes! Good luck :) BTW not producing mental images is Aphantasia whereas not having an inner monologue is called Anendophasia.reply
Is this like the idea that we can use syphilis to fight brain cancer? I don't remember the outcome.reply
Updoot fer VonnegĂźt.reply
This also happened to me after a major siezure. I was in the hospital and I was absolutely positive there was a mariachi band playing nearby. I kept asking if they could keep it down. I was absolutely certain they existed even though nobody else could hear them.reply
We seem to be nearing the post scientific method era which could be even more scary.reply
"People die, and planets turn, and empires rise and fall and burn..."reply
Lord Huron is just awesome. The more I hear of them, the more impressed I am.reply
One method I have read about, if the schizophrenic person also has poor eyesight: take off your glasses. Hallucinations remain in clear focus.reply
It isn't like that, the first people that noticed, Drs. Chevigny and Braverman in the 50's thought it was a coincidence, and it was strange enough experts all over the world looked into it, and nobody worldwide has been able to provide a single case since.reply
But it has to be people who are born blind. Does it depend at all on the reason why?reply
Newer studies all specifically mention congenital cortical blindness (i.e. blindness caused by dysfunction of the occipital cortex present at or before birth). Dammeyer (2011) reports that psychosis is pretty common in people with congenital deafblindness, which is usually not cortical, so it's either "peripheral causes of congenital blindness don't protect against schizophrenia" or "peripheral congenital blindness does protect against schizophrenia, but deafness negates this". I can't find any studies on peripheral congenital blindness without additional hearing impairments. If it's only cortical congenital blindness, the lack of cases might simply be a number's game. Schizophrenia has a prevalence of around 1%, congenital cortical blindness of around 0.16%, so both together would be 0.0016%. With a world population of 8.3 billion people, this means that only 133,630 people with both congenital cortical blindness and schizophrenia should be alive right now (actually even fewer since 1% is the *lifetime* prevalence of schizophrenia and 2.5 billion people are under the age of 18; average age of onset of schizophrenia is early 20s. Incidence rather than prevalence would be more useful for this calculation, but I can't find reliable numbers). A lot of the world's population lives in regions where it's unlikely that someone would ever write a case report about such a person – in many countries, schizophrenia is stigmatized, people with psychosis never get a formal diagnosis, there is little awareness about / scientific interest in mental illness, and funding for science is low. There may be a blind person in rural Somalia right now where the entire village knows that they are "crazy", but the person has never been examined by a psychiatrist, and nobody in the village knows that the combination "blind from birth + always talks to people who aren't there" is even especially noteworthy. And if they know it's noteworthy, they might not necessarily know whether the blindness is cortical or peripheral because that person has never been in a MRI or CT. Hell, even a well-educated psychiatrist who knows that the blindness of their schizophrenia patient is congenital+cortical might not know about this hypothetical relationship, so they wouldn't think to publish a case report about such a patient. So for the case report to exist, you would need to... - be in a geographic region where the existence of people with schizophrenia is not hushed up - meet one of the 0.0016% people who would theoretically have this combination, and meet them after their onset of schizophrenia - know that their blindness is caused by the central nervous system and has been present since birth - know that this is unusual enough to justify a case report - have the resources to publish said case report.reply
Thank you for taking the time to write this! It was an interesting read!reply
If it did depend on the reason for blindness we would probably have been able to produce a case. So no, the only thing that matters is blindness, not the circumstances.reply
How very peculiar... not least because "schizophrenia" arguably is a lumper diagnosis whose component conditions might have significantly different causes. A person who otherwise has no strange ideas but believes that a celebrity they've never met is wildly in love with them gets put together with a person who confuses their own thoughts for voices.reply
At least the cat would like some attention.reply
A friend of mine who has well managed schizophrenia refers to past episodes as times they "got confused". I feel like that's a very apt description.reply
Yo, you got ghosts in your blood, you're gonna need to go to the barber so he can let them out (along with a lot of your blood). After that, come back 3x/week for leeching, to keep them away.reply
But first, cocaine!reply
You're not having male babies because there are trolls in your belly! I'm going to have to cut you open and dig around in there until I can find them!reply
That’s very interesting. I wonder if it has something to do with overload or misinterpretation of social information, maybe specifically people’s facial expressions.reply
This the type of shit mfs don’t think about when they wish they were born in a different time; no you don’t.reply
I didn't know blind people couldn't be schizophrenic at all, interesting... but we did learn in college (in a psych 101 or a similar course) that people with schizophrenia can't be duped by many optical illusions either. There's a hollow mask test you can look up if you're ever curious if you might have schizophrenia. Not like it alone will diagnose you officially, but like it it's not nothing either. All I got was a 2 year degree. Don't take this as medical advice. Also be sure you don't fall for a fake test messing with you. Also not 100% if you can game it eventually. So take this all with a mountain of salt.reply
And then you see the videos of cats and dogs hissing or barking or being freaked out at a random corner with nothing in it, that we can see...reply
They are usually hearing or smelling something that you cant, or something that startled them that you wouldn't really care to notice. Mice or bugs in the walls, things blowing in the wind, a car pulling into its driveway down the street. Their senses are way more powerful than ours but they also lack a lot of the critical thinking that we have, so they might lose their minds over something completely mundanereply
Yep, when my dog did it it ended up being mice under the house. Never would have known without her staring at the floor in the same spot multiple times a dayreply
Yea i'm familiar, just making a lil joke. I work in pest control and get to see rodents in walls all the time.reply
I wonder if animals can develop schizophrenia?reply
if you think about it, what we perceive as reality is entirely a hallucination conjured by our brains using data picked up by the "sensors" on our body. There are things that we have proven to exist that we can't actually detect at all with our bodies like radio waves. Some animals can perceive these things and experience reality way differently than we do. It's one reason why dreams can be completely identical to reality, because the brain is just repeating the same process it does everyday while you're sleepingreply
It is so fascinating. I had an episode of ICU psychosis. They had moved me to another section of the ICU and I woke up and thought that the trauma doctor was going to be mad at me for not being where I'd been before. I tried to get out of bed to go there and promptly crashed to the floor. The nurses came running.reply
I am a schizophrenic and this is scary lolreply
"I thought I heard the dog." Now you need an alert-dog-dog to verify if you genuinely heard the first dog.reply
That’s why I have 5 dogs!reply
Well, it would be hard to convince them that ALL they see are hallucinations: "Dude, this is not real. Reality is only that deep black darkness that you see when you are not seeing all this other stuff"reply
There's a device that is a camera mounted on glasses connected to a tongue stimulator that sends electrical impulses to the tongue and the brain interprets it as visuals, it's takes a good handful of hours to learn and I don't think the visuals are super crisp but it's enough for the brain to process seeing.reply
That sounds fucking insane and I would love to learn more!reply
It still is in some cases. But it's the best we've got.reply
This is super interesting because, while I’m sure I’ve never experienced anything quite as…”concrete” as this, the feeling you conveyed seemed instantly familiar. I’ve had it where I wake up from extremely deep sleep and coming out of a very vivid dream. It’s only happened a few times (and I can’t remember what those dreams were even about). But I know I’ve just “known” something was true for a few minutes after waking up and then it suddenly dawns on me that was a dream and that little “fact” about reality isn’t true and never wasreply
I would assume the assertion is backed by valid statistics but who knows.reply
correlation for castration-reply
Some countries still regularly chop off babys' foreskins for no reason and act like that's normal.reply
Like disembodied hands instead of disembodied voices? Because the hands seem worse.reply
I saw a video a couple weeks ago of this woman with schizophrenia who had a guide dog that would help her identify if smth was real or not. She'd basically watch if the dog reacted/looked at the hallucination and if he didn't she'd know it wasnt real.reply
Tooken.reply
Fool of a took! It’s Tolkienreply
I read that they hallucinate disembodied hands that sign things to them à la “voices”… or if they read lips they’ll see faceless mouths talking to them. Here’s some [research]([link removed] on it.reply
It's bad enough not seeing what's there, imagine not seeing what *isn't* there too!reply
Although you're not wrong, it's more precise like that. It's more like 'imagining' the sign language in your head than physically seeing someone signing in front of you. Sometimes it's an image of lips speaking rather than hands signing. It's rare that the hallucinations impose on their surroundings in that way. Some of them report 'knowing' things, without any method of communication, like visualising sign language, but while they don't report seeing an actual person (usually) they know what gender or identity the person 'speaking' is. There's no uniform presentation, except that people born unable to hear don't develop auditory hallucinations.reply
Oh wow, that's an awesome description, it was exactly the same for me, but I wouldn't be able to explain it this clearly. Lasted for ~10hrs while I was in a hospital. I "realized", through detailed observation of the people around me, that some of the people in the hospital were there for harvesting organs of the patients who stayed overnight. So I made a well thought out plan to flee and did that, in the middle of the night. As soon I was out of the hospital, I called the police emergency number to tell them to check this place because something seems to be really really wrong there 😂 It was just my reality, with absolutely no reason to question it at all, that the people there were killing patients for organ harvesting every night. It wasn't something that would irritate and also it didn't cause any fear or anxiety. I just knew that they were killing people, exactly the same as I know right now that the thing in my hand is a smartphone. A few minutes later my girlfriend called me (the hospital and the police informed her that I suddenly run away in the dark) and the question "you know that the people in the hospital are there to help you?" was enough to totally snap me out of it. I was just like "Oh, right, that does make sense, I will go back" and turned around 😅reply
To add another layer, they found that religious and spiritual people often heard "positive" or helpful voices, at times attributing them to spiritual guidance from ancestors, angels or other. It's not all of them, but non-believers generally have significantly higher amounts of negative ones.reply
And the messaging changes continent to continent. There is also information floating around out there about common shaming thoughts/internal monologing that is specific to sects of religions. Quite interesting stuff.reply
This. It appears to just kinda be people torturing one another Willy Nilly and if they found something that worked, it was by sheer coincidencereply
Yeah, but barbers were also surgeons, so it was convenient to get a haircut and a spleen removal at the same timereply
I assume you mean inguinal hernias, not all typesreply
Multiple civilizations have come close to the scientific method, but the full process has only been developed once. When it's lost, it will likely be lost forever.reply
That's so strange. Schizophrenia has a wide range of symptoms too, outside of just visual hallucinations. Disorganized thoughts. Catatonia. Most often, it's hearing voices rather than visual hallucinations. Delusions.reply
Thank you, notedreply
But op said no one can have bothreply
Saw a video of a blind from birth guy who taught himself to echolocate like a bat by clicking his tongue and listening to how the sound reverberated from surrounding objects. Simply amazingreply
Yeah, I know how you feel. I grew up in church.reply
TTHHHIIIISSSSSS oh my god i LOVE how you worded this!!reply
As I recall, enough data has been collected on blind people that we basically know it's not a coincidence.reply
Dude, but what if we're all blind, right now, and I'm just part of your schizo trip and you're apart of mine. This whole life that we're living right now as a blind person could just be one long schizophrenic hallucination...reply
As a blind person who started with very negligible low vision and gradually lost the rest of it by 15 or 16, I now have random hallucinations, most likely due to undiagnosed [Charles Bonnet Syndrome]([link removed] Luckily, not nearly the same as schizophrenia! But having vision does have strange impacts on the brain. Upon further thought, my brain essentially filling my visual field in with nonsense is probably closer to phantom pain in a limb that no longer has the ability to feel. Long story short, having vision is a bad idea. /sreply
W...what is scary about that factreply
Not even correlation, just raw statistics.reply
What do you mean, ASL visuals?reply
The person could be a hallucination. Honestly, I don't know how this would work if they hallucinated the dog, but maybe schizophrenics dont hallucinate dogs? I was schizophrenic and I just thought a bunch of crazy things, some which might have been possible, like people talking behind my back, or secret societies, and some which were impossible, like me going through a campus that was shape shifting, and I had to listen to trains to guide me home, and that I had to take something from a place if I wanted to get back to the place. Some of them were kinda middle ground, like being able to "read people well" turned into me thinking I could read people's thoughts. Or sensations, like reading energy. Flowers themselves give off energy fields to signal to bees when they have nectar, so why not humans?reply
so fun fact the catholic church used this as an excuse to continue castrating choir boys after it was made illegal.[ this guy was the last one ]([link removed] he was born in the 1850s and made it to the roaring twenties, and i think he was considered [bad singer]([link removed] though.reply
This fact is so wild that it almost screams parody film, the human brain is wack.reply
It's odd because I find that oddly comforting, yet another proof that the wiring of our brain is the core of our lived experience.reply
Can I join your band, I can make soundsreply
Yes, you passed the auditionreply
Penis penis penis.reply
Hey, blind people! He just called your mom a !?*&+×{§¦µ}€£¥[account]reply
I’m very sorry. I don’t really have any tips. I’m not really doing it intentionally, it’s more of a reflex. You’re possibly already seeing someone, but if not, I’d recommend therapy. I have never heard of Binoclur Vision Dysfunction before. As to the constant rumination, I’ve heard of things like Pure O OCD, but I am very much not a medical professional, so take this with a grain of salt. I think it’s only at the stage of one of those disorder subtypes that doesn’t present in the DSM, so I’m only sharing it as it might be something helpful to bring up in therapy if it sounds like what you’re struggling with. Hope this is helpful [link removed]reply
Thanks! Just because I think everyone should know about this disease, I'm gonna write a bit about BVD. Binocular Vision Dysfunction is when the muscles in your eyes dont synch up correctly. This mistranslates the world to your brain. Symptoms are things like blurry/double vision, brain fog, moving patterns, headaches, covering one eye when reading or watching something to "see better", anxiety, agoraphobia... I just got diagnosed with this after 4+ years of losing my life to brain fog and all those other symptoms And I actually learned about it from a reddit post.reply
I mean I went from "able to visualize an object and rotate it, but completely abstract" to "whenever I closed my eyes a new, completely convincing reality would appear, to the point I would forget my eyes were closed". Opening my eyes in that state was a massive mindfuck. And no, I won't be telling people what the mix was for that effect, it was generally unpleasant and caused a couple friends to have panic attacks. Not advised. Though I did once meet an experienced psychonaut who was able to guess it exactly, based only on the description.reply
Wow. I think the thing with hallucinogens is that they’re different for every person, perhaps every time. So it’s likely that someone who did what you did wouldn’t even “see” the same things. I haven’t done them myself nor do I plan to in the near future. However if I were dying, at the end of my life, I think I might try them once, as it would be interesting to see what they were like.reply
Something like shrooms or LSD, I think anyone should try once, so long as they are with someone experienced and are in a completely comfortable place with no short term worries. It is an eye opening experience that will change how you percieve the world for the better, almost religiously. The hallucinations are really just "icing on the cake" for those - the real important part is an introspective journey that will teach you a lot about yourself. But the sort of stuff I'm describing involves mixing stronger stuff irresponsibly. All of us that did this had similar experiences - the whole "new reality whenever you close your eyes", seeing "movies" playing on random objects, suddenly perceiving inanimate objects as people and holding full conversations with them before snapping back to reality and realizing you're talking to a jacket hanging on a bedpost, etc. All of the above are not the sort of experience "standard" psychedelics will give you.reply
>BTW not producing mental images is Aphantasia whereas not having an inner monologue is called Anendophasia Oh crap! I did not know that. Thanks for pointing that out.reply
You are correct, sorry. Someone else enlightened me that what I’m talking about is not aphantasia, but actually Anendophasia.reply
Didn’t know this was on the keyboard. Yoink.reply
All I know is that if it's me I like to put extreme shit in my head and never shut up. I'm not a stranger to self harm in the past so it could well be me fighting me.reply
Unfortunately, she committed suicide when my cousin was on honeymoon. So 2 weeks after, he committed suicide too just in case he would get problems ... I'm glad that you got the right help and that most of your family have understood your problems. We tried to help, but she and her family lived in another country, so it was difficult to support her and not at least her family.reply
There's something we aren't meant to see that slinks around besides us. It stalks and moves in flitting and mostly I noticed, but occasionally someone sees it. In that moment beholding that thing breaks them, it's wrong truly wrong an antithesis to life to what we could call good even to what we could understand as evil, because even evil and vile are part of us part of reality as we know it. The ones who weren't noticed by what they saw and survive have broken minds that cast out all memory of it, but the hole left by what they saw even for a moment leaves it's wounds and from that point on the limits of reality seem hollow and fragile and what's real and not less defined. Edit This is creative writing inspired by the comment not my genuine view on the world. I should have made that more clear given the tone up until this point. That's said I did think it would still be allowed given this was ask reddit and not something like r/science and occasional deviance from the point is allowed. I enjoy world building and just thought of this, I should have also taken into account that on the internet there is a subset of the population who would post somethig, like this as a genuine belief. Much as how no matter how sarcastic you think your being someone holds that belief as genuine as well. /Creative writing.reply
fuck. What next, are we going to have to stop talking about those asshole deaf people on the internet?reply
Life? Don’t talk to me of life.reply
Reminds me of the end of The Knick 🦷 iykykreply
Calling bs on that without a source. No way it was common to castrate men just in case to prevent a hernia recurrence? Pretty sure most would tell the doc they'll take the risk.reply
I do agree that it's important for people to offer sources for claims, but it's also important to look for yourself -- maybe I'll offer a source that supports me but ignore countless sources that refute me. I cited a source in [this comment]([link removed] you can easily find other references with some quick searches.reply
Why do you think that's scary?reply
> there’s something specifically about being able to see that in some way affects the ability to develop schizophrenia Which is weird, because visual hallucinations occur are optional in schizophrenia and many patients experience hearing fake sounds instead. Not to mention that in many cases there are no sensory hallucinations and instead it's mainly heavy paranoia with strong feeling that one "found the secret of how something works", like universe or some conspiracy.reply
I wonder if AI models trained on images hallucinate more that text based models 🤔reply
> so it was commonplace for physicians to castrate men after pushing their intestines back in to keep the problem from recurring I'm gonna need a link for that.reply
Did doctors later discover that hernias cause castrations?reply
Thanks brain!reply
[this was good and explained well enough for even a dummy like me to follow]([link removed]reply
The only explanation that makes the remotest amount of sense to me is that time and cause and effect aren't violated but that the particle/wave expression is smeared out in space WAY more then we think it is. Like a wave is effectively infinite spacially. An effect on the properties of that wave some distance away perturbs the properties such that the collapse of the waverform into particle in reality is obvious at a huge distance. This also solves the "spooky action at a distance" stuff with entangled particles. It's not just the waves are much bigger than particles. It could be that they are infinitely large in spacetime most likely via extra hidden dimensions. That's the only part of string theory that ever really resonated (heh) with me.reply
I clicked the link, and when it opened it the video was already at 3 minutes in. I had at some point in the past already tried to watch this and gave up, lolreply
heh, nah that was me, used a link that started it at that specific timereply
THIS DOESN'T HELP! ^^^thxreply
Reality renders like a video game.reply
Bloodborne fans know you need eyes to perceive the Eldritch horrors.reply
Eyes on the insidereply
Risky click of the day.reply
2 slits 1 interference patternreply
What happens to schizophrenics who go blind? Are they cured?reply
It’s a sad way I know this, but no.reply
Sounds like story timereply
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Only one way to find out..reply
Bruh..reply
But all the voices said too. Except Ted. Fuck Ted.reply
But they can still absolutely hallucinate and it’s not even that uncommon. It’s just a very different cause and experience. Charles Bonnet Syndrome. When you can see, your brain actually automatically fills in a lot of visual data for you, not everything you “see” is what your eyes themselves pick up. It’s kind of a visual persistence thing, you fill in the blanks from context and memory. It’s very useful 99% of the time, helps you kind of continue to have a perception of the space around you even when your eyes aren’t directly seeing things, but it can go haywire. Ever SWEAR you saw a cat but it was just a plastic bag when you looked again? Or laid awake in a dark room and started to see flowing patterns and shapes? Hiccup in that part of the brain. It makes brief “assumptions”, or with the lack of visual input, your brain will start to “suggest” visuals. (This is a gross oversimplification in layman’s terms but that’s the general concept). I believe that it doesn’t affect people who have never had vision at all. But it does affect people who have severely impaired vision, especially if it degrades significantly. It’s NOT a psychiatric condition, it does not come with delusions, paranoia, altered mindset etc. Folks are of sound mind, but your brain is trying to help and “suggest” things that you “see”. My partner is legally blind, has significant visual impairment, most of the world is a washed out blur and her functional vision is something around 6-12 inches from her eyes, but even that is sometimes too blurry to see anything at all. Most of the world is just vague shapes and lights. She sees little but often she “sees” things around her. Sometimes it’s as simple as thinking a lamp is on when it’s off, or “seeing” the layout of a familiar room with her eyes fully closed. Sometimes it’s way more weird. She told me once that she “saw” instead of the wall next to our bed, a huge new area of our room that doesn’t actually exist. She’ll see me sitting next to her and reach out but I’m actually not even inside the house. Somwtimes it’s REALLY weird. Usually seems like severe stress or illness is a factor. We apparently occasionally have a terrifying giant long haired evil looking ghost-woman standing at the foot of the bed, or other night terror like shit. I do not love those moments when my partner points to a random empty corner of the house and asks “do you see it too?”reply
My suspicion is that this is incorrect. For years everyone thought only boys could be autistic, because it manifests differently in girls. As a blind man who knows many, many other blind people in widely various states of mental health, I suspect that the diagnostic tools just don't work for blind people, rather than the condition not being possible. Also, if you're blind, it's much easier to become completely isolated and totally cut off from society, and it can happen extremely quickly. If you begin to experience schizophrenia, it seems likely to me that the early symptoms are just ignored, and doctors assume that your deteriorating mental health is a result of stress, or isolation, or whatever. And by the time the condition is fully manifested you're unlikely to be getting mental health treatment or testing at all. It's sad, but I can think of people who were born blind that I could introduce you to who remind me quite a lot of sighted people experiencing schizophrenia: they engage in an obsessive activity to the exclusion of all else, they speak in the word salad characteristic of schizophrenia, they stop taking care of themselves and their environment, they become paranoid and develop conspiratorial beliefs, and so-on. The only thing they don't do is hallucinate voices. That said, I'm not a psychiatrist, and my only exposure to sighted people experiencing schizophrenia is one in-person individual I know, and multiple people online (the Temple OS guy, Ted Jesus Christ God, chipchan, the woman obsessed with Brent Spiner, the guy who thinks Tailor Swift is attacking him, the gangstalkers, etc.). But based on my lived experience of the blindness community, I would take a lot more convincing that this is actually true; the few journal articles I've read on the matter are just not nearly conclusive enough for me.reply
There's a small number of confirmed cases if memory serves, but it does appear to reduce the risk for it. The original studies of this didn't have a large enough sample size, and you'd need an ENORMOUS size to really confirm it because of how rare both conditions overlapping would be. But there's now a couple of reports of it anyway.reply
i stg existence is a troll job lolreply
And deaf people (from birth at least) with schizophrenia see visual hallucinations of signed speaking, rather than "hearing voices".reply
Blindness: 0/5. Do not recommend. Schizophrenia is off the tablereply
To add onto this people who get it in western societies like America or the EU tend to have violent/aggressive hallucinations but for people in more primitive 3rd world countries the visions are typically peacefulreply
That hallucination cant stop me cause I cant seereply
In my town, we had an incident with a guy that had schizophrenia. Went on a killing spree, house to house stabbing old people, absolutely horrific and terrible. But he was caught and during trial, the only reason he came up with, was that he did it because he thought he would go blind if he didn’t do this.reply
People who are blind from birth also don't dream in pictures but in sound and feeling. Obviously the visuals are gone or were not there. Scientists recently have learned that the reason sighted people dream in pictures is because there's a good chance that other senses would overwhelm the functions of our occipital lobe and degrade our vision rather quickly so the brain has adapted by keeping that part of the brain active at night which reduces the chance that we will lose our sight abilities. You'd wonder if schizophrenia is somehow related to overactive switching in this part of the brain based on that finding. Maybe the brain is perceiving some kind of visual risk so it's throwing out hallucinations just to keep it active? I don't know but wow so interesting.reply
[REM dreaming article]([link removed]reply
What about delayed choice quantum eraser experiments?reply
I don’t know man, I just think it’s just a limit of population. I mean schizophrenia occurs in about 1% of the population. Congenital blindness occurs in about 4% of the population. So I am not convinced that it “can’t” happen just that it hasn’t been reported.reply
Here’s a quote from the abstract of a study that suggests cortical blindness is protective against schizophrenia. “Using a whole-population cohort of 467,945 children born in Western Australia between 1980 and 2001, we examined prevalence of schizophrenia and psychotic illness in individuals with congenital/early blindness. Overall, 1870 children developed schizophrenia (0.4%) while 9120 developed a psychotic illness (1.9%). None of the 66 children with cortical blindness developed schizophrenia or psychotic illness.” So of 467,945 kids, 66 had congenital blindness and none of that sample developed schizophrenia.reply
Maybe I'll watch it later.reply
Source?reply
Hallucinations are just one symptom of schizophrenia, and not overly common. Delusions, paranoia, and negative symptoms (catatonia, flat affect, apathy) are far more prevalent symptoms.reply
I’ve read that schizophrenic people die younger than the average person. Don’t know whyreply
Dude are you jokingreply
I won'treply
Bird Box based on a true storyreply
Do the blind (from birth) have visual hallucinations?reply
You will get buried with notifications but thank you. Your very straightforward response evoked a response thread that made my day. Some of my friends are schizophrenic but they won’t see this. It’ll be because I won’t show them not because they’re blind unfortunately.reply
I suspect this shows a connection between visual processing and auditory delusions. I can't begin to argue the logic of it, but I would wager future investigation of neurology bears out a strong connection between real imagery and imaginary voices.reply
Sure, NOW you tell me that last onereply
I'm so glad you added that edit at the end - I was about to sharpen my blinding stickreply
shit. i was about to gouge out a friends eyesreply
It makes sense. If all voices come from a face and you can’t see faces, how could your brain hallucinate a voice?reply
NOW you tell mereply
just throwing a thought out there , but could it be that blind people uses a specific part of the brain that seeing people uses less like memory, spacial awareness...) ?reply
>blinding people will not magically cure them *soft, squishing sounds, screaming "Hmm? Didn't quite catch that last bit..."reply
I don’t think this is true, I tried to find an actual source for this last time it was posted on Reddit, and I failed.reply
This is a man who's clearly dealt with the public before.reply
Are they unable to even have auditory hallucinations? If so, that’s wild. Super interesting.reply
*puts down laser pointer* Awwreply
Something weird that I heard but didn't confirm was that native Americans have a higher rate of schizophrenia than the rest of the population.reply
In that same vein, the strongest predictor of auto-enucleation is prior auto-enucleation of the partner eye.reply
Huh. My husband was born legally blind; he can see stuff, just not well. I wonder if this is true for people who aren’t completely blind? I wonder if it’s just because both blindness and schizophrenia are rare so it’s just a statistical anomaly that we just haven’t seen them coincide yet? Or if there’s actually something about being blind that predisposes one not to develop schizophrenia?reply
What if it is with one day blinding stew? My daughter might have schizophrenia..reply
That’s because the chances are practically zeroreply
I heard a theory that dreams are the sight part of the brain fighting off the rest of the senses while you sleep. Also people who become blinded after having sight eventually stop seeing in their dreams.reply
You mean they can’t see hallucinations? Because that makes sense. But what about auditory tactile hallucinations? Are you saying there’s no case of any hallucinatory schizophrenia in blind people?reply
I’ve also heard that artistic/ creative people are more likely to get schizophrenia than othersreply
That's curious. Because schizophrenia isn't just visual hallucinations, but often auditory or sensory hallucinations as well, like hearing strange noises or feeling like something is touching you when there isn't anything there. I understand why someone who was born blind wouldn't have any visual hallucinations, as their brain has no reference to base them upon, but why no sensory or auditory ones?reply
Has anyone tried blinding a schizophrenic to cure them ?reply
What about magically blinding them?reply
In Italy we say: occhio non vede cuore non duole (if eyes can't see, heart can't hurt)reply
The reasoning I've heard is that it's partly based off of the same part of your brain that reacts to things like movement and peripheral vision going haywire, but I have absolutely no idea how accurate or up-to-date that is with the modern understanding (or if it was ever accurate to being with). It is a bit fucking concerning for me as someone who is hyper-aware of their peripheral vision lol.reply
Completely crazy take: my mother's family has a lot of crazies except my mom, a cousin and I, all of us with lazy eye...reply
“No, blinding people will not magically cure them of the condition” is sending me😭reply
Already tried?reply
>You have to be born blind to not get schizophrenia Well I wasn't born blind and I don't have schizophrenia. /jreply
Yeah but has anyone actually tried blinding them?reply
Not necessarily true. The one study people use to claim that had such a small audience that statistically speaking it was something like 80% likely that none of the blind subjects would have schizophrenia, assuming standard chances of occuring.reply
That’s interesting. Visual hallucinations are very rare in schizophrenia and auditory hallucinations are very common. I wonder if it has something to do with hearing becoming a more important and spatial sense for blind people.reply
What's crazier is that schizophrenia can be transferred to other people through bone marrow transplants.reply
Well is that defined by visual or auditory hallucinations?reply
You know the saying, "If You can't see other people, you can't be other people"reply
Interesting. There's also a strong link between other mental issues and the visual cortex. Like visual snow and neighbouring phenomena having a higher incidence in people with ADHD.reply
> no, blinding people will not magically cure them of the condition. Have they tried?...reply
Are there any hypotheses as to why?reply
Are there enough examples of people who were blind at birth due to something like an infection, rather than a congenital cause, to differentiate between a possible genetic relationship versus the effects of seeing on the brain?reply
Iirc it's people who are blind due to some quirk of their neurology. If your brain is normal but your eyes come out screwed up, I'm pretty sure you can still become schizophrenic.reply
Here is my hypothesis: Neuroscience got the brain completely wrong. The neocortex isn't higher thinking, it added better sensory processing. Dopamine is a stress chemical that determines error tolerance. When a child is born, it starts with relatively high dopamine levels that induce very rough sensory compression in the neocortex, until its output is reduced enough to fit the capacity of the rest of the brain. As it learns to compress its inputs better, and the amount of sensory data drops further, dopamine levels get reduced, so that the spare capacity can be used for better more nuanced perception, IQ drops (!) and the person learns to think more carefully, with less tolerance for uncertainty. If the neocortex gets damaged, its ability to compress sensory data fades, and the opposite happens - dopamine shoots up, perception gets more imprecise, and your thinking gets more tolerant. First you get a high IQ, where you just hallucinate if people are telling you the truth, or whatever, and then you just outright hallucinate.reply
I think this is a great question!reply
When I get extremely over-tired then i can get audio hallucinations that would be good for an exorcist horror movie if you could record it. It's quite clear that it's not real. It's completely unlike the radio player in my head that' currently stuck to "old piano" by Diana Ross. But yes, cogito ergo sum.reply
Schizophrenia is not only hallucinations, it's delusions, mood dysfunction and a whole slew of other symptoms.reply
I think so.reply
That's not enough to rule out the possibility. You need to determine the source of schizophrenia and then prove why blind people couldn't get it. If you just get data about how many people in group X don't get a certain condition without looking into the "why", it can always just be a coincidence, especially in cases like these where both conditions are relatively rare on their own already.reply
My most direct reference was actually from a quasi-Renaissance fantasy novel by Lois Bujold, which obviously you wouldn't accept as evidence. Quick searches for the history of hernia surgeries and human castration turns up some references, such as [this one:]([link removed] >There were numerous attempts to repair a hernia without castration, but these were on the whole unsuccessful. Surgical practice then became split between the academic surgeons, who based their practice on anatomical knowledge and who tried to develop new surgical techniques, failing which they controlled herniae with trusses, and the gelders, who continued to castrate many children and adults in the course of repairing their rupture. Public opinion moved against the gelders and indeed, Robert de Housse in France served 3 years on a galley for castrating so many boys [16]. The practice of orchidectomy for hernia was finally ended by the late 18th century, partly by the efforts of the academic surgeonsreply
They knew that already, because they were the causative link.reply
American Sign Language - Instead of voices, they hallucinate hand signsreply
Oh yeah well they didn’t make zeppelins out of led or butterflies out of iron either now did they?reply
So many correlations have been proposed as relevant to schizophrenia, and been refuted, that I am inclined to think that this also is unlikely to pan out. It's a good heuristic even if it's not great science.reply
ROLL TIDEreply
Very cool. Thank you for sharingreply
I heard that because of this, if you are looking at the lineage of humans, you only have to go back 33 generations to find a common ancestor.reply
33 generations is about one thousand years. The palawa people of lutruwita (Tasmania) were isolated from the mainland for 10,000 years before colonisation only two centuries ago.reply
wait. what. Do you have a link to a paper?reply
Alas no, I heard it on an episode of The Rest Is Sciencereply
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If I could award your comment, I would. Thank you for the brilliant break down! It's incredible what variety of expertise sometimes coincidentally pops up in here.reply
Never deleting this app out of fear I may miss something like thisreply
How fucked up it is, gene pool wise?reply
I mean in appearance. Think of how every grizzly bear appears the same to us. But that's only because our phenotype awareness is not attuned to theirs. When a grizzly bear sees another grizzly bear, they see a completely different being through sights and smells. In fact, the variety they observe is even greater than ours. So while we can nitpick all of the little differences in facial features, hair color and skin color, and our species is actually one of the least varied genetically, we're only seeing what our species is attuned to seeing. From the perspective of an outside species, regardless of facial features and skin color, we must all appear like clones to them.reply
I mean you'd have to define messed up wouldn't you? All the problems that humans have compared to other animals, seems pretty normal.reply
Not really fucked at all. Genomes are pretty funny in that they are all pretty similar in the way that developmental regulatory genes are always conserved. WE share roughly 50% of our genome with bananas, flies, and slugs. Additionally humans have enough latent variation and viral DNA that it wont really matter in our lifetime. Even pandemics such as covid resulted from antigenic shifts that the human body had 0 response to, hence the pandemic, and yet we were able to adapt and overcome.reply
how were they weird?reply
They don't follow-up to questions on their comments. It seems interesting to think that, depending on things like gravity and sun, that aliens could look similar to our ancestorsreply
They were the progenitor to Neanderthals and Erectus. They had larger brain cases then both of us. They lived in cold climates, made shelters, used spears, made fire. They had the bigger brains of the whole team. However they didn't have the vocal chord change that is evidence of complex language and tone of voice. So we see the first ice age full of a social loners. There is some evidence and some speculation that other early Homo-Subgroup learned fire and tool use and things from them and we actually have their cultural legacy. We would party and work as a team...asking our quiet homie in the tent if he was good.reply
I love this story!!reply
A treasured memory to be sure. By coincidence I was also present at the birth of a chestnut that grew out of this, that human numbers were once about as numerous as gorillas are today. Year or two after they discovered it, my academic grandfather was presenting it a meeting, and just before he went on he leaned across me because on my other side was a well-known primatologist. He asked her how many gorillas there were on earth, and she shrugged and said 'in the low thousands'. My guy nodded and added it to his talk. For years after I'd see that bit, 'humans were once as few as gorillas are currently' in talks and public articles. All because my academic grandpa was trying to find a cool way to visualize a very small number of people, and Sarah Hrdy just happened to be nearby.reply
So you're saying gorillas have the potential to rise up and take over the earthreply
One alone was enough to change our timelinereply
\#DicksOutForHarambereply
10 years on 5/28... Maybe the portal will close.reply
We did. Don't count them out just yet, might be they're just waiting us out.reply
APES TOGETHER STRONGreply
Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaiusreply
Could I play the piano anymore??reply
TIL- 900,000 to 800,000 years ago there was a bottleneck with our ancestors breeding and we almost died out. There were believed to be just under 1300 human. Went to tell my husband this and he said yeah, I know. Ask him, the IT guy, how he knew this he said say it on Reddit a few weeks ago. So also learned my husband is a few weeks ahead of me educationally on Reddit.reply
That's not necessarily true. All that can be said is that we could all be traced back to the same 1200 individuals. It doesn't mean that there was only 1,200 humans left. There could have been many other modern human lineages that stuck around for thousands of years after those 1200 emerged, but only those that are the descendants of those 1200 are left over today. It's possible that we had some sort of advantage or even an immunity to some disease or toxin that other lineages did not have and their descendants just dwindled out over time.reply
At least we have ice cream.reply
When the fuck did we get ice cream?!reply
You might still be here, the same recycled consciousness, just in a different meat sack.reply
I always think about neanderthals and contemporary pygmy's. We used to be more like a fantasy novel, with all different kinds of people.reply
Lots of people in r/MonoHearing experienced this.reply
Another way to phrase this; Genealogically your ancestry grows like 2^n where n is number of generations back; 2 parents. 4 grandparents, 8 great great grandparents. However, in as little as 10 generations back, it's very likely that at least one of your ancestors has contributed 0 genes to you. As you go further back on lineage, your genetic lineage starts to approach linear grown, compared to your genealogical ancestry (simply counting parents of parents of parents etc) grows exponentially. This doesn't even take into account ancestor collapse as family trees overlap further suppressing both genealogical and genetic ancestryreply
For those who didn’t understand that video can watch this one that is simply explained: [link removed]reply
Let me further break your brain with... the polarization paradox! [link removed]reply
That’s kind of easy to grasp once explained. It’s got nothing on the double slitreply
Bells Theorem, if you really dig in, is deeply disturbing. True, that it isn’t related to double slit experiment. But this shit rocked physics when people looked more into it. Still does!reply
If you think this, you don't understand it. The general analogies used to explain it *do not work*. That's the point actually. The analogies all describe local hidden variable explanations for this; but we've shown that these experiments violate Bell's inequality, and thus local hidden variable explanations *do not work*.reply
The evidence doesn’t quite support that interpretation. It’s more accurate to say that everyone alive has ancestors that were part of the same population that had a few thousand breeding individuals. The actual number of humans throughout that period was probably a lot higher.reply
You can also get minor temporary deafness due to allergies. I used to lose a lot of the hearing in my left ear every year during spring, though my allergies have largely abated in severity since then (no severe issues for 10+ years).reply
Volcanologist off the top rope! Very cool stuff. Thank you for weighing in. Until today, I would have said Toba was responsible for the bottleneck.reply
This has been blowing my mind for years. I've seen some interpretations that say this proves we are living in a simulation, because things only change when we look close enough.reply
I'm absolutely sure someone will be able to correct me, but the way I understand it is that you can't "view" or "observe" things in a non-violent way. Even right now, your ability to see things is inherently kinetic/violent. Photons are colliding with things, then bouncing back to your eye and colliding again. To observe electrons and measure where they're going, you need to interact with them with things that are roughly the same size as the electrons you're measuring. To "check" if an electron is going through a slit, you need to use some sort of sensor that will interact with the particle itself, and that interaction is what changes the behavior. Before that interaction they're discrete waves of information, and after that interaction they're particles. IDK hopefully someone studying physics can explain why that interpretation is wrong.reply
Which is absolutely (mostly, kinda) true (though modern theory has moved away from this in a lot of ways), and makes fundamental sense to our classical brains. Uuuuunntil you look at the delayed-choice quantum eraser. At which point we need to completely scrap that sort of classical thinking. Because if there is any sort of which-way information *possible* from it (i.e. if the physical state of the universe contains any distinguishable information about it that could hypothetically be extracted (even if it's not physically possible for humans to do)), the interference pattern vanishes. Period. Because it's not about observation collapsing the wavefunction anymore, now we talk about how decoherence (essentially leaving the quantum world and joining the macro world) causes quantum effects to become classical. The only way to prevent that from happening is if your detector was *also* in a quantum state that has not decohered. I.e. there is no classical way to get it's information, the detector has not been macroscopically altered (e.g. no photons hit it, it didn't generate heat, it didn't emit noise, etc), and the data remained in an entangled quantum state, then you can still find the interference pattern (in a selected set of correlated data, that is). But that's basically saying you didn't measure it at all. Kinda. My professors would have had a field day with this whole comment already, but this is probably the most wrong thing I'm saying. Modern quantum physicists think more in terms of waves that interact with each other in different sets. A wave that interacts with the "macroscopic world" will become coherent with our "wave" and decoherent with the quantum wave it was a part of. Though scientists almost always think of this the other way around, depending on which interpretation they favor (I lied earlier, this is the most wrong thing. Because this is *super* wrong and shows my quantum interpretation bias). Damn, this is hard to explain, I have way more respect for everyone who tried to explain this to me before. Lets take a page from further above: Prions. Prions are proteins that are folded wrong, but cause nearby proteins to *also* fold that way. Our world is essentially like a world completely infected with prions. Our prions are "decohered" waves. We can create new, coherent waves, in their own little pockets, but the moment they interact with our world, they decohere and also become prions. This is a horrible analogy because it implies that classicality "infects" quantum-ness and that it's an irreversible process, but it's the best I've got. Please don't show this to anyone who actually knows what they're talking about, I got my masters and the dipped from the deeper quantum world, and now I teach high school.reply
Yes, of coursereply
This is kind of what I was trying to get at. Most likely in physics it has something to do with the way the measurement is being taken or counted, but for right now we can't discount the possibility that it is the counting itself that somehow changes the behavior. Mostly just fun to think about but apparently all of MIT is in this comments section and they can't let me have fun thinking about it lolreply
No no, I'm saying it's not changing its behavior on its own. To test if an electron passes through a slit, what technology do we have other than electrons to check if the electrons are passing through. We're having to hit a car with a car to see where the car is, which I think will of course change the behavior. It's not like we have sensors that are using subatomic particles right? That's where I think I'm misunderstanding, are we using protons and the size of the electron we're using to "observe" is actually too small to functionally change the path of the protons? I don't think the particles are "aware" they're being observed, I know that the act of observation is not abstract at a quantum level; it's physical.reply
Maybe I’m wrong here, but I thought this theory was invalidated when they actually “tested the electrons” by recording it, then deleted the data, and the electrons were still in wave form. Still about the uncertainty principlereply
Observing or measuring photons collapses the wave function. The wave function is quantumly in all probabilities and positions and observing or trying to measure the potential into a point in space-time, changes the information from a probability, to a unit or particle. In other words, you're correct but just explained it in different verbage.reply
Not sure how that proves we’re living in a simulation. It just shows the wavelike behaviour of photons.reply
Did you watch the whole thing? The point is the results of the experiment seem to change just by taking a measurement, that means we can't actually know what happens because when we try to see everything behaves differently. What if all measurements are like that? What if, by the act of touching moving or even looking at an object we are changing it's fundamental behavior? If that's true, then you can never be absolutely sure of anything around you being real. It's a stretch, but that's what makes some people think it's proof. I'm not one of those people, but I do believe this shows how little we actually know, and how much we have to learn still. Also we don't know a lot about photons themselves. He says "atoms" in the video because we can't really isolate a photon, we just know the math says it's there. But how can something that is pure energy, with no mass like light, behave like a particle and wave at the same time?reply
In a sense, I believe you can never be completely certain of anything around you. You have your sensory inputs that your brain interprets, but there's truly no way to prove that your mind isn't being fed those inputs by some sophisticated system that perfectly replicates them. While it's vanishingly unlikely, it's *technically* possible that random fluctuations caused your consciousness to come together for an instant, which has the exact configuration of particles to be your brain experiencing the present moment and with your exact memories, and this is indistinguishable from you and the rest of the universe actually existing. This is a thought experiment called the Boltzmann Brain, and in practice it's used as a sort of "worst case" test for cosmological theories - if your theory suggests a Boltzmann brain is more likely than the actual universe existing, it's probably wrong. >What if all measurements are like that? What if, by the act of touching moving or even looking at an object we are changing it's fundamental behavior? I mean, this is kind of exactly what the maths says, for every interaction. You can't interact with something in any way without changing something about it: if you see it, light had to bounce off it which will impart momentum or energy. If you detect it through gravitational interaction, gravity goes both ways, whatever gravitational interaction gave you that information also did something to the thing observed. Same goes for any interaction, every interaction is two-way. This is without getting into uncertainty, and the fact that a narrower distribution for the position wavefunction means a wider one for the momentum, and vice-versa. >But how can something that is pure energy, with no mass like light, behave like a particle and wave at the same time? Behaving like a wave and a particle at the same time is a useful fiction, that gives our human brains with human intuition a way in to understanding what's going on. In truth, photons (all quanta, everything really) are excitations in a quantum field. They're neither waves, nor particles; they're a secret, third option. They exhibit wavelike behaviour in some ways, and particlelike behaviour in some ways, but they aren't actually waves or particles. We just don't have the intuition to understand their actual nature (until we develop it through experience with quantum mechanics, that is). So we understand them as some weird mashup of things we can understand.reply
Someone who actually understood it explained previously in one of these threads why it wasn't that mind blowing and what "observed" means in this context. Don't remember what they said but it took a lot of wind out of some stoners' sails. I mean yeah there are for sure fatal flaws in our ability to measure some things but science is a method not an outcome and maybe that's the ultimate takeaway here.reply
I'd love that explanation if you could find itreply
I think it had to do with how we "observed" the photon. to do that we have to literally interact with it in some way. Observation itself could be a reason for the discrepancy since the photon we interacted with had to bounce off something for us to see itreply
I remember seeing that too. It has something to do with us observing it that changes it. Similar to like how if we're standing in water to observe the waves we're gonna change how the waves act by virtue of blocking the water. Same here just slightly differently.reply
This can also scale as large as you want it to which is kind of fun for thought experiments. To observe the moon, literally by looking at it, you need to indrectly interact with it. Photons need to slam into it, bounce off, move through a cluttered atmosphere, and enter your eye. Thinking of observation this way makes the observation effect on the double-slit experiment (and other quantum stuff iirc have similar outcomes) a lot less spooky.reply
In order to measure or “observe” any kind of particle you have to bounce a photon or another particle off of it basically. This interaction or bounce is what’s collapsing the wavefunction, not the conscious observation of a person. So a particle will behave in a particle like manner rather than a wave if anything outside of its quantum system interacts with it.reply
I've heard it compared to measuring the air pressure in your tire. By applying an air pressure gauge, you are affecting the air pressure however minutely thus changing it. Same with the slit experiment.reply
The double slit experiment is about wave-particle duality in light and matter. What you’re referring to is the observer effect, which is real; however, the idea that an observation can directly affect reality is not supported by science. If you like the double slit experiment you should look into the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, electron orbital probability densities, and quantum field theory.reply
the simulation is in your head. no seriously, it's your brain that runs a local simulation of the outside environment. that's how you perceive things, the cranial biocomputer is doing it. it's also why it's important to vet your sources and not consume garbage or lies and misinformation cause it will corrupt your local simulation and turn you into an idiot.reply
It doesn't.reply
It has absolutely nothing to do with a person looking at something in the physical sense. On the smallest of scales things appear to be wavelike and not definitive until something interacts with that thing.reply
We were THIS close to not having to pay taxes or wear pants.reply
This pisses me off. The atoms act differently when they are being observed but only by a machine that tracks it? Ya...eff off with that.reply
My only thought, and they've surely ruled this out as people far more intelligent than me lol, but maybe it's not being observed by the machine but interference put into the environment when the machine is turned on that alters the way the particles behave? That's all I can come up with!reply
It's like fumbling around in a dark room full of random objects. In order to learn anything about the objects, you have to touch them, which will change their position somewhat, so you can never know the original state of something before you interacted with it (though it can be extrapolated in theory). This is basically what all measurement ever is.reply
I'm going with this so I feel better about it. Thank you.reply
[Here]([link removed] is some info about it. It says 1280 breeding individuals. Mind blown!reply
2 slits, 1 atom detectorreply
A friend of mine has experienced this too. Hope you doing okay with it!reply
I believe it was more that the genetic signals could just be showing that from an already small initial population, only a few groups ended up contributing to the majority of the Eurasian gene pool. So no apocalyptic scenario needed (it’s not like the total human population was 8 billion back then), just decent environmental pressures that mean that some groups just were much much more successful than everyone else and those groups happened to be the ones spreading out of Africa. Or for an ELI5: Imagine you notice a few spots of mold (each one a different color) growing on bread and you decide not to throw it away like a normal person, but want to see what happens. You check back in a week later and the bread is covered in a single color of mold, and if you genetically tested test they’d all be descented from the color of that initial spot. There was no catastrophic bottleneck. Just happened to be the case that the environment in your kitchen, and the random dice roll of how the mold started growing, lead to one strain totally dominating. The other ones that were doing just fine but not growing as fast just end up contributing nothing to the science experiment in your kitchen.reply
'Likely' is a big question mark. Over billions of years, [organisms have evolved into being crabs dozens of times]([link removed] To the best of our knowledge, homo sapien level intelligence has only ever emerged once. For whatever reason, intelligence is not selected for very heavily in the grand scheme of evolution.reply
Two chicks at the same time manreply
Quantum eraser is a wild twist on this experiment. IIRC, if you delete the data about which slit a particle passes through (before a human can observe it) the diffraction pattern remains. Or some craziness.reply
Delayed choice quantum eraser adds even more counterintuitive wildness.reply
Is that the light one where it's characteristic changes dpending on if it's being observed or not? That shit it brain breaking.reply
Wait! Isn’t human history taught by the European perspective anymore? /sreply
At least link the OG! [link removed] Old but worth the watch, if you've got the attention span.reply
This has been my favorite experiment since I was a teenager. I love just thinking about it and freaking myself out. I’ve had some really interesting conversations about it as well.reply
I think about this a lot, but mostly in a context of wondering were there other fairly advanced, short-lived species in the ~70,000,000 years between the end of the dinosaurs and now?reply
What the FUCKreply
Anything in the realm of quantum physics just fries my brain. I keep trying to visualize or conceptualize in some abstract way, but it just does not fit into my lived experience. You just have to trust the math.reply
Maybe particles are more sentient than we think?reply
How did they figure it out? If it's not too complex to explain.reply
It's not too complex, and I gave a simple version in another comment. A better explanation would take a while to cover adequately, and frankly there are folks around here who'd do a better job of it. I was there at the beginning but my own interests took me in a different direction.reply
Was this the one 850k years ago?reply
My understanding is that there's been further work after the initial stuff that I was witness to. Like as not there've been more than one bottleneck, and it's not yet clear exactly what happened. I'm aware of the new estimate (from a couple of Chinese researchers, yeah?) but I've not had time to really evaluate that date. Earlier estimates were in the 100k range (give or take a lot), which would make this an all h. sapiens event. 850k would predate us a bit, be interesting to know what the hell happened and how the other hominins fared. Oh, there were a number of bipdal human-like critters on the landscape back then and we're still trying to tease out who they were and what happened to them. If there was some sort of environmental catastrophe, they went through it too, or died trying. Lotta work to do here.reply
> Oh, there were a number of bipdal human-like critters on the landscape back then and we're still trying to tease out who they were and what happened to them. If there was some sort of environmental catastrophe, they went through it too, or died trying. Ya know, I've always wondered how we came out on top. What random bit of evolution made us the winners of that race? Turns out it might have just been that we were the last ones out of Africa and missed all the fireworks!reply
Last I heard, the difference between us and other Homo species is likely to be a unique mix of cooperation, competition, and homicidal approaches to out groups (both Homo sapiens and Homo cousins). I.e., if Neanderthals were the bonobos of Homo, they would have done just great until Homo sapiens with our chimpanzee murderousness moved in next door. We interbred with other Homo species but that wasn’t likely done on friendly cooperative terms. That doesn’t apply to why Homo in general ended up at the top of the food chain; for that, it’s probably more due to intelligence, opposable thumbs, and useful innate abilities like language.reply
All good guesses, but more extrapolations from 'this is what modern humans are good at, I'll bet the acquisition of <fill in your favorite trait> is what drove it all!' Could be, but we've been wrong before with this approach. We thought it was bipedalism, until we discovered a long history of bipedalism that didn't immediately produce all the other cool stuff. Encephalization? Stone tools? Land tenure? Naw, they all popped up at different times, followed presumably by long periods of nothing much. We were apparently bipedal, for instance, for a long time before our brains got big, and stone tools predate our genus. How'd that happen? That said, the answer probably is one of the things (or all of them) that modern humans are good at, it's just that we don't have a lot of info about what preceded what. To say nothing of 'what *produced* what. We may tease more out eventually but we may never know exactly how we assembled the 'modern suite of behaviors', that information may be lost. > We interbred with other Homo species 'Interbred' is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Always tickles me when I see the popular press assuming this was a nice process, like sapiens chicks just kinda dug those hunky neanderthal dudes. Sounds like the nicer version of what likely actually happened. Worth thinking about.reply
Precisely what I meant by “wasn’t done on friendly cooperative terms,” I didn’t think it necessary to go into more detail. That said, all we know about other Homo DNA in ours is that it’s there, not how it got there.reply
One of my favorite anthropological theories is our ability to bond with animals for exceeded any of the other homo species. Specifically our strong bond with canines allowed us to overpower competition. It’s a bond we are still learning about and finding evidence for. ~25,000 years or so.reply
Yeah but for a lot of interesting human features, by 25k they were already in place. The neandertals were gone, humans were already everywhere, and were 'behaviorally modern' (whatever that means) having long since become anatomically modern. I mean it's fine and no doubt came in handy, but in the grand scheme of things domestication came around long after we were well on our way to what we are now. Also, this 'bond' would have to be way older than 25k for it to have helped us send the other homo subspecies packing. They were already gone by then, it was almost certainly just us. So maybe domestication helped some human groups against other human groups. Maybe.reply
That's fucking cool.reply
You're living in the best time so far. Violence is at an ask time low. Your one of the statistically minuscule percent of humans who has ever been able to read. Your talking to people ask over the world on something that fits in your hand. Hunger on the developed world has been resolved so well, we have an obesity epidemic. We have medicines and technology that would make the kings of the middle ages envious mansa Musa and Crassus never drove a car or flew on an airplane or enjoyed air conditioning or countless other wild luxuries we take for granted. Billions of people live in democratic societies. In most countries women have more opportunities for careers and education and self determination that pretty much every. Is the modem day perfect? No. Are there drawbacks to our technological progress? Sure. Buy considering we aren't having surgery while fully awake and biting down in a stick, or ya know, starving to death in the winter as a subsistence hunter gatherer and having most of your kids die before the age of 5, I think you could stand to be a little less whinyreply
> I think you could stand to be a little less whiny That's true for many of us, but at the same time, someone needs to point out where things aren't working.reply
Too ~~wage slave~~ tired to watch right now but hoping for some replies/likes so I can find it tomorrow.reply
I always thought the idea for quantum science was “understanding” how something works by creating a mathematical model of it that works, even if that model doesn’t make sense in our head. They have models that describe quantum things well…the problem is that none of the models “fit together” with the other established models. The hope is to discover a unified theory where the math models explains things both at the quantum and all the way up to the macro. Even things at the macro level don’t necessarily “make sense”. Gravity, for example, could just as well be magic. How does the earth and the sun and the moon (and even my phone) all magically and invisibly pull on each other? I know there is a math system that describes it, and without it nothing at know would exist…but still it’s kind of like magic, right?reply
Gravity works because mass curves space. Like, imagine the way a bowling ball would sink the middle of a bed. Except apply that to all of the space around it. So, objects aren't exactly sucking other objects towards them, the sucked objects are just sliding through bent space the way they would slide across a curved surface.reply
I think what the comment above is saying is that we really only have descriptions for phenomena, not explanations. Saying that gravity works because mass curves space is a description of the process, but the question is why does mass curve space in the first place? It’s an infamous epistemological critique of materialism. This is a great analogy I’ve heard - imagine you are in a room with a lamp and a trumpet. You start to play the trumpet and notice the lamp reacts. You play an A note and the light turns red, B and the light turns orange, C and it turns yellow, et cetera. You also notice that the brightness of the lamp increases and decreases depending on the volume of your playing. You can map it all out and learn everything there is to know about the correlation between playing the trumpet and the lights of the lamp, but can you really ever learn why the lamp turns on just by playing the trumpet?reply
Ultimately the goal of physics is to find a model (the why) that explains the mapping and allows prediction. In your example that would be a note the trumpet cannot make but your model predicts that it will make the lamp go green. Then you get a piano, make the note and look at the lamp. If it is green then bingo, your model is correct so far. Then comes a moment when your wish the color turns out to be different. This is what powers physicians to make more discoveries. Today we are mostly in a situation where our models are accurate and this is sad.reply
That’s the model, and it all makes sense when you think about that way. But it’s still like magic, this wacky weak force that pulls everything with mass inexplicably toward objects with more mass. Yes there is a mathematical model that fits…but it’s still this invisible force that has its fingers in everything that exists.reply
Probably. We can make incredibly advanced models of gravity that work perfectly with this explanation. And without this explanation. This explanation just requires the fewest caveats, has the most evidence, and makes the best predictions. But you could cut it all out if you want. That's the trouble with science. Science doesn't deal with facts, it deals with *models*. And the trouble with models is that you can make them just about however you want; some just require more "Except on Sunday after 4 pm"'s than others. (NOTE: This is not to imply that science is arbitrary, but it's a tool for organizing facts into explanatory frameworks) Even this curved space model has problems. Dark energy and dark matter, for example, are kinda just unknowns that we slapped labels on and said "It works if we include this." If we accept the data they provide at face value, they show that general relativity cannot provide an explanation. But because GR has been *so absurdly successful*, we can point at the rotation of some weird galaxies and go "Our model says there *must* be something there" and almost certainly be right. But it does prove that our model is *not* fact and that there are still holes left to explain by a later, better fitting model.reply
Magnets are magic. And yes! Quantum mechanics is us using incredibly advanced math to perfectly predict *what will happen* without *any* understand of *why it's happening.* Except when we understand *why*, we tend to not understand *what is actually happening*.reply
Humans maybe, but not Astros pitchersreply
I'm sure those mice also have a plausible reasoning in their mind.reply
I pet-eh the kitt-eh. Oops. Am eaten. :( \- Mousereply
The rings may be older than we think, thus older than sharks. (Also commented by someone earlier)reply
Sharks may be older than we think. Maybe the Earth formed conveniently adjacent to them.reply
I read somewhere that if we had a full supply of food and water, and we never had to sleep, that humans could theoretically walk forever without stopping. I’m not sure if it’s completely true, but it is wild that we’ve evolved to possess the endurance skill the way we have.reply
And that Steve Buscemi was a fire fighter on 9/11reply
And that Viggo Mortensen actually broke his toe kicking that helmet!reply
>Other animals might fling things Not really as a practical weapon, though. There are basically only three other types of animals that have evolved ranged attacks and they all use completely different methods. Bombardier beetles do it by mixing chemicals in their butt into a reaction that blows up into gas and squirts hot gassy stuff at predators. Archerfish clamp their jaw at the water's surface in just the right way to squirt water at insects in order to knock them down for food. And sperm whales use their voice to create sonic shocks in the water that stun fish.reply
More just as some additions... It's basically the same idea as bombardier beetles but simpler, there are ants and a few other insects that squirt acid. Tarantulas flick hair. There's also spitting cobras that spray venom, horned lizard with pressurized blood, some animals that vomit at attackers... Probably the closest to what people do, as in a genuinely practical projectile attack from stuff IN the environment (not part of their body, etc), are actually antlions - they flick sand to make ants fall into their pits when they're trying to get out of them.reply
Birds drop nuts, mollusk, and shellfish from the sky to crack them open. Some species of Birds drop their catch to more quickly end their life, and prevent injury to the bird from it's prey fighting back. Crows use sticks as tools to catch insects.reply
“If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics.” ~ Richard Feynman.reply
Speak for yourself. I can't hit the broad side of a barn from ten metres away.reply
Your x10^(4) great grand-father is very disappointedreply
I definitely have that worm. Gree up with too many cats.reply
One thing that I hate about quantum physics is that at the planck scale, we teleport from one position to the next. Basically like pixels moving across a screen. That's just weird. We experience the world in analog but that is not the truth of our fundamental reality.reply
Homo Basketballensisreply
Sharks are older than the north star as well.reply
Sharks may outlive Polaris as the north star. It's only got about 12,000 years left due to the earth's tilt. Coincidentally, Vega, the future north star has only been around for 450m years which puts it on par with sharks.reply
Not me.reply
That's the thing. Yes you. Most other animals are that bad at it.reply
Haha I'm flattered now.reply
Quantum physics seems like this weird thing you find if you look in a particular place. Almost like finding a pearl in an oyster. It doesn’t seem like it’s actually the material that the entire universe is composed of, including us, and we barely understand it.reply
thats when you use your hands and the other humans around with sticksreply
Ah, yes. Quantum physics: the dreams stuff is made of.reply
[man vs horse]([link removed] the horse usually wins, but not by muchreply
Although in this case the race is a set distance. A more interesting test that would demonstrate the efficiency of humans would be "how far each of them can go before they keel over from exhaustion". That I suspect the human would win by a pretty wide margin, but good luck getting it past any sort of ethics committeereply
Properly trained humans win hands down. Our aerobic threshold is miles higher.reply
forget the ethics committee, just use the stuff people already do, like ultra marathonsreply
Don’t forget to watch the slit experiment videoreply
The very first silent sniper. A simple sling used by an experienced person. This technique made the very first warlords rise to power. Picture your enemy walking along a road to get some water and ping down they go even if they were part of a group it would not matter.reply
Not completely silent. You'd hear the whistle just for a few moments, which honestly might be the more terrifying option.reply
Or gripping. Not the strongest grip, but we can manipulate like no other species. Get a good grip and we can leverage, choke, break necks. Add a stone or rock to that hand and we can confidently place the strike point and shatter bones, puncture.reply
We're generally too slow to outrun any predators that could threaten us. Endurance doesn't help if you get run down and eaten in the first thirty seconds. It's theorized that early humans were persistence *hunters* where we used our endurance to hunt down prey. An antelope is much faster than us, but eventually it gets tired and has to stop. Then we can just walk up and shove a spear into the exhausted animal.reply
I love Quantum Entanglement aka Spooky Action at a Distance. The field of Noetics is a fun little rabbit hole to tumble down into.reply
I'm glad the researchers are at least having fun with the terminology, like the flavors of quarks (up, down, charm, strange, top, and bottom)reply
is that the field where they see a particle's spin change at the same time even if they are far apart ? or the one where the particle further apart actually spins before the action is taken by the experiment ?reply
We’re also the only species that can post on Redditreply
I very much doubt that having have visited some of the okbuddy subreddits.reply
On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog!reply
It doesn't help that alot of quantum physics sounds like crazy science fiction, and we've barely begun to make use of all the quantum "craziness". I mean, teleportation has been done and can be recreated somewhat consistently (i'm using the word consistently very loosely), but we all still gotta go on some pain in the butt journey via walking or riding vehicles wherever we go.reply
Atlatl reference! Yay!reply
Years ago I had a roommate who was a physicist. He would get irritated and lose his patience trying to explain quantum physics to me. He just couldn't understand why I had such a difficult time grasping it (phrasing). I got to where I wouldn't bring it up (damn it phrasing again).reply
It probably didn't help that people kept stealing his spot on the couchreply
QM is that bell curve meme. The two ends are “I don’t understand, this seems impossible” and the middle is “QM is simple, I understand it”reply
I don't know if this is really true? We're probably better than most animals. But we're probably not the best overall. I've heard that the Camel, the Ostrich and the Pronghorn Antelope are all faster over long distances. Source: [link removed] Now to be fair, humans are pretty good, we can beat horses. We are certainly good enough that persistence hunting would be viable, but just not against these animals. You'd pick an easier target.reply
> Now to be fair, humans are pretty good, we can beat horses. It depends on the conditions. [The Welsh race]([link removed] has a horse winning most of the time, even though the horse doesn't care as much about being first as the humans.reply
I still can't wrap my head around how a particle can be in two states at once.reply
It’s not really in two states at once. It’s in a combination of the two, simultaneously, which is a subtle but important difference. The states of the entangled particles are undefined but inseparably linked.reply
Well that clears it right upreply
The simplified explanations of quantum effects seem like they're usually simplified to the point that they make *less* sense. Like when people say the particle is in both states at once and they don't collapse into one until they're observed, and observed is a really weird choice of words because it implies that the thing that causes that is just like, lookin. But what they really mean is 'interacted with,' because that's what observing something requires. When you look at something you're measuring the photons that reflect off of it, and to look at an individual particle you have to bounce something off of it, and doing that is what causes that collapse. And we know this because you can do things like the double slit experiment to observe the effects of the unobserved particles, and those effects change when the particles are interacted with. Point is that that distinction, at least for me, makes it all make a lot more sense. Like it's still bizarre but it's bizarre in a slightly more comprehensible way.reply
Colors are impossible to explain to someone who's blind, because they don't have a sensory framework to fit them in, yet they are still vital to our visual perception and have an 'intuitive' feeling associated with them. A lot of phenomena in classical mechanics we take for granted, because they already align with our past memories and perception of the world. Is there a reason a ball should bounce off a wall at the same angle it hit it? What does it mean for an object to be spinning? Intuition is kind of a fake phenomenon that's built off of the enormous repository of the senses and feelings you've experienced throughout your life. Humans love mental shortcuts and heuristics because it reduces the thinking load (thinking is expensive for any animal trying to survive in the wild), and I imagine that positive lightbulb feeling when you finally 'get' something is relief, a little reward, for reducing your thinking load. Regarding particle superposition, or most quantum phenomena, we have no way to biologically sense it, and most people have no 'memory,' or enough experience playing around with scientific instruments, to be able to predict or 'know' how a quantum particle should interact with its environment. There's no reason we should ever be able to get it, like how a blind person will never understand the color, but we are able to 'do the math,' and amazingly, form *measurable* and *accurate* predictions from those models. A blind person may not get the color red, but if you tell them someone painted their house neon red, odds are they can 'do the math' and know that it would be gaudy and unfitting. The magnetic moment due to an electron's intrinsic spin is another one. Undergraduates take their first year E&M class and when the subject of magnetic dipoles comes up, they first start learning about electron spin. We have math tools to describe it, and our experimental measurements match the theory, but the gimmick is that electron's don't actually spin (it would have to break relativity to generate its measured momentum). What does it mean to have intrinsic spin, when the object isn't actually spinning? I don't know. All I know is that mathematically, we can pretend it's the same as classical angular momentum and the math checks out. And that's all our brains do when we encounter intuitive phenomena--except it's given it an intuitive association.reply
Is this the part where I remind you that Trent Reznor said "Hurt" wasn't his song anymore after he heard Johnny Cash's cover?reply
You're confusing it with the Kermit The Frog cover.reply
We are persistence predators!reply
Spooky action at a distance.reply
I've seen a bird pick up items and drop it on soneone's car from high up enough to make a loud splat and set off the alarm. Repeatedly.reply
That's the one that, to me, is our answer to a lack of claws and fangs. We can't slash at you or rip your throat out with our teeth but we can throw a rock at your skull at 100mph with amazing accuracy. Get a troupe of us together all throwing rocks at you and you have no chance at all. When we developed spears, atlatls and slings it was already just straight up cheating never mind archery or firearms.reply
The evidence is the extraordinary amount jf people who love cats like nothing else, more than any other animal, even dogs. All this despite cats having minimal use other than rodent catching Edit: looks like we’ve got a bunch of commenters with toxoplasmosis here. Edit 2: comments to this are proving my point. If I said that I hated betta fish with a passion most people would say, “that’s rude” and move on. If I say I hate cats with a passion I get death threats. T. Gondii has been an effective organism because a large section of modern humans love cats unconditionally and not only that, have strong reactions against those who they perceive to have any less than entirely positive views. Just like how T. Gondii forces rodents to seek out cats and get eaten, the same forces humans to have an abnormally strong sense of connection to domestic felinesreply
"minimal use other than rodent catching" doing a lot of heavy lifting here...rat-borne diseases have been among the most lethal in history and millions of households in the US currently have rodent infestation. rodent-catching seems trivial until a rat gets into your house and your cat takes care of it!reply
My cats are useful because when I am sleeping and I am woken by a strange noise, I think, “it’s just the cat,” and go back to sleep. I don’t know what the catless / dogless people do. I imagine that they stay awake the rest of the night sure that there is either a burglar or a ghost in the house.reply
I lost my cat about 6 months ago. I just stay calm even after she's gone. She taught me that noises are natural in an apartment & nothing to be afraid of 😊 before I had her, I was even too scared to go to the bathroom in the dark 😂reply
I'm so sorry about your kitty -- may she rest in peace!reply
Thank you, kind stranger ❤️reply
The problem is when I say that and then realize all the cats are on the bed with me. :(reply
Its actually similar, when I get woken up by a strange noise I think "it's just [account] 's cat" and go back to sleepreply
We say it's the central heating, outdoor cats, indoor triffids, scallywags, ne'erdowells and badgers.reply
This is hilarious. I’ve also had that thought before.reply
So easy. You start by having a tonfa under your bed. Those that don't kow what a tonfa is, it's a big solid stick. Light but durable (you can smash it against a wall, and it won't break). So, when you wake up with a loud noise at night, you grab your tonfa, and you clear the house division by division, imagining a small noise behind a door every so often, and exclaiming in your manliest on manly voices "I'll bash your head if you surprise me, just come out". After you cleared the whole house you start second guessing yourself, maybe you missed a hiding spot, so you double back, checking every nook and cranny. Of course by the time you are done, it's already time to go to work, so... it's easy, you don't even have to try and go back to sleep.reply
I mean, I wouldn't really call my dogs all that useful. Cute as hell, though.reply
My cat lays across my abdomen when I have my period and purrs, the heat and vibration help with the cramps. She also sleeps with us every night and I swear she picks me or husband based on who needs it.reply
This happens with me and my wife. I think some of this has to do with cats considering us part of the pack and then treating us as such. Like when one of us goes to the bathroom one of our cats will basically be guarding the door the whole time, or one of my cats will basically demand someone is in the room to watch their back while they eat.reply
Mine doesn't even do thatreply
Interesting to think cats need to have 'use' to love. You sound like you have no heart or empathyreply
Nice trolling. People liking a cute and relatively easy pet to take care of is not a scientific proof of a parasite.reply
Yea see this would make sense except people have the same reactions regarding dogs. So your “theory” isn’t correct. I mean ffs there’s a site to find out if a dog dies in a movie before you see it on screen because people have a visceral reaction to it.reply
>more than any other animal, even dogs. we domesticated dogs we loved them so much. Cats domesticated themselves. People do not love cats more than dogs, that would be ignoring most of human historyreply
no, you have to say "i hate betta fish and anyone who likes them actually just has a parasite, there is no reason to actually like them"reply
Good punreply
One of my favorite “fun facts” that most people I know were unaware of.reply
Not quite. We're outperformed by a few animals. We're top 10 though. Google pronghorns, ostriches, etcreply
But they all definitely died.reply
Not if C.B. Bucknorn is watchingreply
[Idk these guys are pretty accurate]([link removed]reply
Counterpoint, the New York Jetsreply
Why are Redditors obsessed with just mentioning the same facts over and over and over?reply
Oooo we doin this? Love this. Here’s a fun one. You know how everyone is like “oooo dogs have super smell theirs puts ours to shame” and “ooooh hawks have super sight we are functionally blind compared to them” etc etc? The human sense of touch makes every other animal look like it has fucken sipa and stumps for limbs. If I gave the average human a baseball to represent the planet, and placed a bur the size of a house, proportionate to the baseball-earth, on it, we’d be able to locate it by touch. We DO have several superpowers.reply
‘Waves’ and ‘particles’ are just useful predictive models we have come up with to help us understand what is going on around us. It’s better to say that ‘the thing acts like’ a wave/particle. The double slit experiment reveals a limitation of our particle (billiard balls) model, a failure to correctly predict the outcome. I don’t think a lot of people really understand that the wave model is just as imperfect. Recently (as I consume more content on this stuff) my mental model has oriented towards thinking about it in terms of things (quanta, excitation in the fields) interacting in causal networks. I’m thinking that there is a sort of causal relativity. If the local causal network ‘you’ are in is not linked to stuff happening elsewhere, you can’t say anything about it. And when you do interact with that previously separate network, then from your point of view everything that happened while you were disconnected is the ‘average’ outcome of every possibility. At a macro scale the ‘average’ just looks like one thing as far as any observer can tell. At a quantum scale, well, it looks like multiple things happened. Now consider that the only separator of ‘distinct’ causal networks is time.reply
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Further up the thread there’s a thing about people who are born blind not being able to develop schizophrenia. I wonder if it’s related…reply
Nope not at all. There are some fantastic responses in [this thread ]([link removed] explaining the whole thing.reply
Neat! That and another poster here helped out - it’s hard for me to comprehend just *silence* there but apparently it’s just a different medium.reply
Yes! I don't often have an inner monologue. I have a ridiculously vivid imagination, and have ADHD so my brain is never quiet, but often it's just concepts and images making up my thoughts, basically exactly how the other person described. Sometimes I have the words but most of the time it's just concepts. Incredibly detailed and complex concepts sometimes but just not in word form. But apparently its on a spectrum where some people lack it entirely or others lack it sometimes.reply
So do you read “out loud” inside your head? The discussions around this topic always make me question if I have it or not. I think I do but maybe I don’t? Have poor memory so can’t imagine how I am when I’m not reading.reply
I'm not sure tbh. I feel like thinking in words slow my thoughts down a lot. But then if I'm practicing what to say to someone (I'm autistic as well as ADHD) or writing a comment online I read and think the words aloud. Generally when I'm thinking I do get a monologue at times but only in intermittent fragments. But I don't think when I'm reading I read "out loud" inside my head as such. That one is hard for me to quantify lol. I also have poor memory so I totally feel you on that.reply
For a long time as a child, I thought I was the only person with an internal monologue, which made me feel both special and scared. I was so relieved when I found out that this is a 'normal' thing.reply
An even more mind blowing concept is the ["Early Bicameral Mind" theory]([link removed] It basically states that early man's inner monologue was separate involuntary part of their consciousness...and this is where the concept of God's talking to us comes from. As we developed language and the advanced concepts that came along with them it shifted the way our brain communicated with itself. Our brains basically started shouting advice at us and we thought it was "God". Eventually our consciousness advanced to a point where we started taking control of the inner monologue.reply
Wut der fuck.reply
Because you didn't do it medically smhreply
I wore a glove and sent myself a bill for $50,000.reply
Piggybacking off this, I don’t see images in my mind. Like if you tell me to close my eyes and think of a pineapple, I won’t see it no matter how hard I try. I always thought when someone said “close your eyes and picture x”, it was just another way of saying “think of x”. Only realized a couple years ago that people are actually seeing this stuff.reply
You have Aphantasia. Much more common than you think.reply
Same here! I degloved my whole fingertip after getting it stuck when I was a kid as well, yet I have no scar from it.reply
For me the easiest way to put it is that I think in concepts and ideas rather than actual words. Like I have the thoughts and the stream of them in my head like people with an inner monologue do but I do so without the words attached to them. They’re like clouds of thoughts that drift by that I catch rather than a steady stream of words.reply
Are people actually thinking through their life in words? Like they're thinking in their head right now the *speech* "let me go get a glass of water" instead of the idea of going to get water? I don't get it.reply
Yup, like clouds or stars against a grey sky, with more complex ideas forming constellations of interconnected singular concepts.reply
I don't believe this one I feel like people just don't understand the questionreply
I have both aphantasia and anendophasia, so I have no “mind’s eye” or inner voice. Obviously I still think, but the best way to describe it is that my thoughts are purely conceptual.reply
Are you saying with some gene editing we could be capable of regrowing arms or legs?reply
Gene editing wouldn’t be necessary. You could just turn the gene back on by switching the methylation pattern on the gene itself or the promoter genes—this is an epigenetic change which can be thought of like turning off or on a light switch rather than replacing the lamp in the room; it’s just a single methyl group (protonated carbon) affixed to a signaling point along the chromosome. Some of the research being done in mammalian Wingless/Int-1 pathway work covers editing, but it mostly involves epigenetic regulation to activate/deactivate the pathways downstream. One great example that’s hit the popular science magazines over the past 2 years is research in Tokyo which is using an antibody injection to capture and sequester the protein USAG1, which results in bone morphogenesis protein and Wnt-1 signaling turning back on, regrowing teeth in empty spots in the mouth. It’s been demonstrated in several model species like ferrets, now they’re testing it in adult males with tooth loss and birth defects. TLDR: yes, or cancer. Next gen therapeutics will likely enable the regrowth of any tissue, or programming new tissue types, but we have to cure cancer and invent reverse vaccines first.reply
Damn that's incredible research being done, thank you so much for the insight. I suppose we'll have to wait another decade or two before the research yields a medically approved procedure. Biotech seems like it's gonna be an insane field to work in in the future, I didn't realise we were already this far ahead.reply
I wouldn’t put numbers on timelines like that. American science is hitting a funding wall right now (thanks Trump voters 🙄) which reduces the number of students admitted to graduate programs or workers hired to research cores, and significantly slows down results per quarter, but productivity is also increasing due to the creation of new tools as the result of semi-automated AI-involved programming workflows and automation in labs. If all goes well, there’s plausibly a scenario where we can inject arbitrary RNA sequences into human bodies within the next few months based on existing therapeutics in human trials which are capable of editing RNA downstream of SNPs. There is also arguably a scenario where a WEIRD nation billionaire funds an offshore lab or a global superpower like China simply disrupts the market and starts using mRNA in lipid nanoparticles to run arbitrary gene sequences in humans, bypassing the need alter endogenous systems entirely. The Moderna/BioNTech method is very powerful.reply
We are stardust We are golden We are billion-year-old carbon - famous scientist Joni Mitchellreply
They kill yours and put someone else’s in I’m sure you can do it yourself if you tried hard enough. People have. Look up poop blenders. Hard to find someone with perfect poop to draw from, though. People liereply
I had to read that three times before I realized you said purified and not putrefied. I was horrified.reply
This one always annoy me because every time it's brought up someone reacts like "So they really are NPCs!" or "explains why they're so dumb", which is such a wild and random misconception. Tbh when I found out that most people had an inner monologue, I had similar thoughts of "No wonder they're so slow". Because having to self-talk your own thoughts seems so unbearably *slow*. I was convinced inner monologues were just a layer over top their actual thoughts that just made communication faster, and that surely people think plenty without self-talking it through, but don't realize it. I then questioned friends and family if, when they want to take a drink of water from a glass, if they say in their head "I'm thirsty. I'm going to drink some water from that glass.", and pretty much all of them responded that they do. I thought that *surely* for things like that, they didn't need to self-talk, but nope! Inner monologues are absolutely mind boggling and need so much more research.reply
That's what I was just telling myself.reply
>What do they think about? Is it all reactionary? I'm pretty sure everyone has non verbal thoughts. Haven't you ever had a thought you couldn't put into words? A concept there as clear as day, but unable to be efficiently translated? It's like that, but without the associated trouble with translation. I don't think in English. I had the "concept" of this thought in my head before I made this post. I knew what I was going to write about, but the words didn't exist until I was actually typing them out. They're not the thought, they're just my English translation of what I'm thinking about. I'm capable of having an internal monologue, it's just not my default way of thinking.reply
Exactly!! I always wonder if some people who say they have an inner monologue just don't realize that not every thought they have is verbal.reply
I am this. It just means I don't have some weird voice in my head which you all apparently do. It's all just vivid images, concepts, emotions and stuff like that. Sure I can make a voice in my head if I want to like if I'm remembering someone talking or reading a book or something but it's not a constant thing. Honestly it's weird to me that your thoughts are all in words. Seems limiting.reply
Hope this is ok to ask; if you have no inner monologue, how do you do something like write a book report? It just flows without inner discourse or preparation? I hope that doesn’t come across as rude, I genuinely curiousreply
Nah this is a great question. I can say shit in my head but it's typically limited to reworking a sentence or two. I have a concept of what to write or like the "shape" of the essay, but I have to write each sentence out first then edit it over and over. It makes my writing slow and makes me sort of dread writing but it also generally makes the finished product quite polished because of how much editing and re reading I do. For example. I have reread this post about 8 times.reply
I don't think you're as different from inner monologuers as you think. People's brains are just better or worse at organizing thoughts... And people also condition themselves a bit. Have you ever been lost in thought?reply
I have a aphantasia and no inner monologue. I couldn’t imagine things being loud and flashy in my head. Dreadful.reply
Do you have an easy time falling asleep?reply
This has no impact. My minds and thoughts can still race, they are just silent? More like concepts. I don’t know how to explain it. I’m not “talking to myself” I also can’t “hear” my thoughts. But I still have them. I also still get songs stuck in my head oddly, it’s like I feel them. They come from the back of my brain, the words and the concept of the instruments just kind of relays in the background under/behind other thoughts. This happens when I’m very anxious especially.reply
This is very fascinating to me. Thank you for sharing. I ask because I have a very loud vocal brain and vivid imagery. The sheer loudness and movies playing in my head keeps me from falling asleep (doesn't help that I have adhd as well).reply
Ohhhhh I never realized that this may be why complex writing is so jumbled for me sometimes and I'm better at editing. I have to convert all my thoughts into language and sometimes I don't immediately have the language to reflect a nuancereply
I think about what I want to write, translate my thoughts into words, and write them down. I do the same thing when I speak, except I say the words instead of writing them. I'm not incapable of imagining a voice saying what I'm thinking the way some other people are, but I don't bother imagining a voice saying what I'm writing. That just seems like extra work.reply
It's not an act of work to imagine the words for people with "standard issue" immer dialogue. They are always on. Never off. But as a normal part of life. Not requiring effort, just background. Just Like it's not effort to pump your blood. Your body just does it.reply
Like reading out loud when you’re reading. It’s just not necessaryreply
Step 1 - plan what I'm writing about and how Step 2 - just write it and then basically never have to edit outside if a rewording a few things At least that's how I do it with no inner monologuereply
Same. I think more in shapes and feelings, then I kind of just describe them. I guess it's a kind of translation of non-word things into words. Arguments (work in academe) typically have an internal consistency that seems like a shape, for instance. Most of my family is like this; very quick, verbal, and funny. Sometimes I'm about to say something funny and I won't even know what it is. It feels like a pile-up of tension, then I hit the punch line and I'm surprised as well. I think this is probably fairly normal for the non-dialogue people. Note: have excellent visual memory and spatial rotation skills.reply
I have the same thing. When I write a report, I have a general story in my head that I know I want to tell. I have the events/points in order, then I just have to put it into actual sentences. It does mean that I have to reread over and over to make sure that I’m hitting the right tone overallreply
Thank you. You described my experience perfectly. I can get out a few clips of words in my brain, but I cannot for example tell a story in my brain using words that I can so easily tell people out loud. I was telling a favorite story to my sweetheart about something funny in my youth. A favorite vivid memory. And when I was done, I realized wait a second this is an opportunity for me to try and tell that story with words inside my head. And I kept starting, kept starting and absolutely could not generate words except for the part of the first sentence. I realized that I have never in my life practiced saying something inside my head ahead of time. If it’s important, I write it down like when I’m preparing to give a status update in a team meeting. And in that weekly team meeting, I have noticed that nobody else writes their blurb down first, but I do. So in some aspects, it can be a disability, but it doesn’t make me stupid. Amazingly my sweetheart has aphantasia solidly which we’ve known about a few years. He’s very bright and thinks in sentences and always has a well composed thought. He’s not wordy like I am, because he polishes it all up inside while I extrude a messy massive words and then try to sort them out. If I wasn’t just babbling into my phone because I’m terrible at texting with my thumbs I would have edited this. Sorry sorry But I can remember exactly where we parked every time, and all kinds of goofy visual details, because my memory is also awfully good. He cannot see my face or his daughter‘s face in his mind he has to carry pictures. Together, he and I do make a team! I absolutely love this stuff. And I know some of you out there have great visuals and you can also practice words inside your head and you’re lucky bastards. Be grateful for that.reply
An inner monologue for me is like a character's thoughts being said to the audience in a show or moviereply
But our thoughts aren't all in words, that isn't how it works. It is just like you with images and concepts... but self-narrated. Like a documentary where there is a guy talking about the stuff happening on screen, but in your brain and you are the guy talking.reply
My thoughts are in exactly what you described. I also have an inner monologue. They are not the same thing. And it’s not weird. It’s perfectly normal.reply
I can't speak for anyone else with an inner monologue, but that's not *all* there is. From how you've described your thinking, mine is the same, except with extra chatter. Definitely not limiting, though the voice can get annoying at times. :Preply
Just because I have an inner monologue doesn't mean all my thoughts are in words. I can also visualize vivid images, vivid dreams, and can have abstract thoughts through emotion. .. etc Seems limiting to only be able to do one or the other.reply
Neat! It’s not all words, but I tend to think in printed text. Even if it’s a song or image, it’s often conveyed as written text. As for the content; sometimes it’s like I’m rehearsing conversations or shitposts or the ever classic shower comebacks, narrating what I’m doing / seeing / hearing, writing stories, going over song lyrics and just endlessly scrolling through checklists of what I need to do before I can call it a day. There was one day back in 2015 where it was just a broken loop of “how could this have happened.” I guess it’s just hard for me to fathom not thinking of something, like people that claim to “turn their brain off” or whatnot.reply
I think we might be opposites. I have like a dozen or more internal voices depending on the message being put across (Usually voices I know, like friends/family/partners etc) but basically zero images in there. If I *really* concentrate I can just about muster up a very quick flash of an image in my mind but it lacks any detail at all. My dreams are basically the same, a lot of highly detailed recognisable voices with imagery of complete darkness and shadow! Brains are weird.reply
I am exactly like you, except the dreams! My dreams are like vivid films, and so incredibly realistic. It's the only time it's like that, and remembering dreams is so hard because of the switch.reply
Me too! I have several voices all talking at the same time. Like different levels of voices. A front voice kind of like narrating or rehearsing, another voice thinking about how I would explain these thoughts to my friend/partner/therapist. Another one critiquing the whole deal. And several back-up singers. Would be lovely to just have one at a time. Very blurry imagery or just visual concepts. But auditorily in hyperdrive.reply
Having an inner monologue does not exclude also having any of the images, concepts, emotions and stuff you refer to, though.reply
I do both? I know some people literally cannot picture things in their head, but I have no problem doing that either. There is a constant monologue going on (even while typing this comment) that is just parallel to everything else. Even multiple ones at times, both in my native language and English (a lot of my education was in english so probably because of that). I also wouldn't say it's a weird voice, it's just me. It's like you would be talking to yourself out loud but just silent.reply
What makes you think it's one or the other. I have both vivid images and concepts but also the inner narrator voice... hardly limiting!! But often maddening at times tooreply
same! my thoughts are all conceptual and I can't wrap my mind around having verbal thoughts. sounds exhaustingreply
I have both if that helps.reply
> Seems limiting. It is limiting but we can't seem to turn it off. And because it's constantly on, we have only a vague idea of what it must be like to have it off. Honestly, I think it would be very peaceful. But it does serve as a way for us to make logical deductions (if this, then that, therefore). I just can't imagine how you could visualize if, then and therefore.reply
Its not only words. We (or at least some of us because it applies to me) also imagine images, concepts etc.reply
98% of all of the matter in the universe was synthesized during the first \~20-minutes of the Big Bang. Actually, it would be \*slightly\* more than 98% --- trace amounts of lithium (and beryllium I believe) were also produced during this event, but any element heavier than that could only be produced once stars began forming about 400 million years later.reply
well i don't have a 'minds eye' but i have an inner monologue. so for me its like im just talking to myself planning, but i can't see it or visualise what i should be doing or making for example.reply
So are the Appalachian mountainsreply
Which is why John Denver says "Life is old there, older than the trees. Younger than the mountains, growin' like a breeze"reply
It goes in the other end.reply
You picture yourself doing it. Step by step. How do you do it? Is it like talking it out? Like having a conversation with someone in your brain?reply
In my case, yes. The same way that you picture yourself doing something, I intuitively "hear" my own thoughts without literally *hearing* them, and then consciously reject bad ones before carrying out the associated actions. A back-and-forth conversation only occurs if I'm torn between multiple approaches to a problem and need extended time to settle on one.reply
Ah this is so weird! Ok so if I said to imagine making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich - would your brain be like "first go get the bread, then open the refrigerator to get the jelly...." And while that's happening do you visualize it too? Or is it all just words? For me I just picture myself doing it. Like a movie or a slideshow.reply
In my brain it’s a bit of both. I’m visualizing getting up and where the peanut butter is, the bread, jelly but also having a conversation with myself. Such as “ah fuck, I gotta get up, guess I’ll grab the peanut butter first then the other stuff. Probably need a paper towel or plate. Paper towel is easier I guess if I don’t have to clean up as much. But I’ve got to clean the knife so might as well grab a plate then to not be wasteful. Should also probably start with pb so I don’t use the knife on the jelly first…” and so on. Lots of inner monologue conversations about stuff, not so much step by step instructions if that makes sense. In fact, this whole reply was done internally to myself as I typed it.reply
This whole convo is wild. The idea that people think words to themselves in their minds voice is crazy to me, and also that some people would see themselves doing things! Mine is much more abstract, neither words to pictures. Just a knowing or a "thinking" I guess, concepts popping up in my brain but not as pictures or wordsreply
out of everything i’ve read in this thread so far, what you’ve described is what i understand the leastreply
Kind of like a vague "peanut butter is here" and by picturing something, maybe 'watching' your hands putting jelly on a piece of bread?reply
This is so funny! I have a lot of the same thoughts but it's not words in my head. Like I don't hear or say "ah fuck, I gotta get up" but I just feel that exact same thought. I'll often say it too. Plus I'll just kinda know not to do the jelly first? I don't know. I definitely don't hear or say that in my head - I kind of picture the jar of PB with jelly bits in it and feel bad feelings about that. I also typically wipe the knife on the clean slice of bread before using it in the jelly to get the PB off but I just kinda imagine me doing that first. I have all of the same thoughts you have but they aren't in speech in my head. Which is super cool and I'm sort of fascinated I didn't know about this difference in people before.reply
Like the other person said, it's a bit of both. When learning how to do something new, the narration is constant like you're describing. As I become more accustomed to doing something, like making a sandwich in this example, it mostly swaps over to visualizations while the part that I "hear" either goes quiet or moves on to other topics. Sometimes related ("oh I'm almost out of peanut butter, I need to add it to my shopping list"), sometimes not ("I need to remember to ask about x at my appointment tomorrow"). edit: Here's something that's actually got me curious. Do you experience earworms? That is, a snippet of music that gets stuck in your head and plays over and over? A rhythm, melody, certain instrument, anything like that. If you do, the way you "hear" it is similar to the way an inner monologue gets heard.reply
No, unless I'm bored enough to fill the void. If I have trouble finding the jam in the fridge I might think to myself "Where's the jam?! I know it's in here somewhere... There it is!". To kind of vent in my head. If my mind is kind of wandering I might think the individual item when deciding to grab it "bread" or "knife" to help solidify what I'm doing or maybe think "what's next..." to myself while I think of what I need next. I'm not usually going to think in as much detail as "and now I need to spread the peanut butter" for a simple task unless I'm bored and feel like narrating it in my head like I'm making a how-to video or I'm under a ton of pressure and need to focus because my mind is all over the place.reply
For me it really is like talking to someone, even to the point that I sometimes feel like two different people, one observing the other (anxiety and depression make good use of that). I ask myself questions and sort of "hear" the response, but it's coming from my own head. Even writing this, it's like I'm dictating to myself. It's so hard to imagine not having that. Even when I try, I'm just telling myself what it might be like.reply
Yeah, that'd be a bit pointless, wouldn't it lolreply
The idea is that your biome is fucked, so they’re trying to repopulate your gut with a healthier one from a donor They do the same thing with cows stomachs, i think that may have been where they got the ideareply
This is not true. Read: [link removed]reply
They do seem to still predate the Atlantic Ocean.reply
The claim is not astonishing because of the precise taxonomic match but because it’s surprising that big chompy fish were around before trees were.reply
There indeed were big chompy fish around before trees. They just weren't sharksreply
Did you know that there was a time when trees and wood already existed, but the bacteria necessary for degrading the wood didn't?reply
This is not true. The bacteria necessary for degrading wood evolved roughly at the same time that wood itself did. This is a misunderstanding of the fact that wood-degrading fungi didn't evolve for a few tens of millions of years after wood did. Though, this just means that wood degraded a little more slowly in the Carboniferous, rather than not degrading at all. And the rates of wood decomposition at the time had no impact on coal formation. The reason why there's so much coal from the Carboniferous is because there were unique conditions that just led to way more trees growing than during any other geologic period Source: [link removed]reply
I've always been curious as to how much this effect can be influenced by our upbringing. For example, I've ALWAYS been an avid reader of information. I can and frequently do, read all day long in some form when I'm in me time. From subtitles in TV shows, internet, video games, I have a constant steam of letters in my brain. I -really- struggle with visualization and I kinda have to talk myself into detail. I really struggle to have much artistic skill, or better yet I haven't really been able to draw or hold a final image and make it physical. I've always hated art in my past because I was so bad at it, therefore it became its own feedback loop. Now that I'm older I'm more open to it in the form of coloring books. It takes all the pressure off of a final "idea". I'm always utterly amazed at people's ability to draw. How they capture light, gradients,all of it. I know it takes an immense amount of time, but HOW. I can pause my inner monologue for a length of time through meditation so I can kinda get it. The best way I can describe is it, I can "feel" different parts of my brain working and it's sort of like an "awareness of a conclusion". I love studying physology as well and can occasionally prime myself and "see" my own defense mechanism in short time frames. I've been in therapy for years and study a little everyday. Thinking is weird man...and when you really think about it...just gets weirder. It gets really trippy when you do psychedelics and "unlock" those experiences. Like mushrooms and LSD. I'm also mentally ill and have a bunch of medications. One is a mood stabilizer and how it can feel subjectively as a narrowing of my emotional range. I have an antipsychotic I take in the evening and I can "feel" how that slows me down, before and after daily. There are just so many ways to THINK and experience reality and blows my mind... Then there's cognitive biases...learning from mistakes...growth and maturity through time. And it's all in our little private world. In such a way that no one will EVER be truly to experience.reply
That I get, it's the people that have both no mental visualization and no inner monologue that slightly freak me out. I mean, I know a lot of our thinking is not actually conscious (i.e. the various creepy experiments that suggest that when we think we decide something consciously, we are just justifying a decision already made unconsciously), but I just have trouble imagining a silent, dark brain.reply
By default, I don’t have an inner monologue since I think in emotions and physical sensation. Learning to read helped me to think in words and learning to draw helped me to visualize. When I needed to memorize all the countries and capitals in the world, I sat down in the test room and used the feeling of my eyeball’s movement to assign each data point before the test and then I used those feelings to trigger the memory I made. I got a perfect score.reply
Every response on this thread is fucking fascinatingreply
My wife has this! I often wonder how anxiety and depressions works for these people, cause my anxiety comes from gaming out the worst possible things in my brain. And my depression comes from telling myself I'm such absolute shit.reply
My only personal experience with this is that I've gotten pretty good at suppressing my inner monologue (taught myself as a teen to help me sleep). I don't know what it's like to not have one at all. It's not the same as not thinking. It just makes your thoughts subverbal. You can still feel them happening. So I think if that's your default way of thinking, you'd still get most of the self-destructive stuff in there. Honestly, you might even miss out on some of the metacognition that can *help* with recognizing bad patterns of thinking.reply
Now I'm really curious about the correlation to certain types/symptoms of depression and anxiety. It's hard to imagine how they would manifest for me if not in the form of dreadfully unhelpful mental conversations.reply
It's the same for people without an inner monologue, we just don't put our thoughts into language. We can still think ahead and plan (and overthink) just as much as y'all lolreply
If you read this and thought to yourself “What inner monologue?” it’s that.reply
Well nobody told my finger that. I cut off the end of my right middle finger when I was 3 and have been missing it ever since I can remember, including scarring around it.reply
Yep, hard to discuss without finding a contradiction. I thought about putting a disclaimer here, but that makes it less interesting. The entire thing is a bio/medical ethics nightmare to discuss publicly, because proper treatment requires immediate surgical closure. There are numerous cases of children losing fingertips without regrowing them, and the reason isn’t something that’s fully understood. As far as I’m aware, the cut needs to be perfectly clean, and not treated or wrapped, and the nail bed must still be intact. There has been a lot of discourse about stem cell availability and nutrient surpluses as well: if it’s part of a larger systemic issue then the signal that prevents scarring and kicks off the Wnt1 pathway first may be lost.reply
Bake 'em away, toysreply
I don't have a literal inner monologue, but I do imagine things visuallyreply
Funny enough, you’ve now touched on something I do understand. There is nothing quantum happening in the relationship between schizophrenia and blindness. There is some literature on the comorbidity between retinas and schizophrenia, and it’s basically suggesting that a gene (DISC1 for example) is responsible for both symptoms. That is to say, the genes that encode the proteins needed for schizophrenia are also the genes needed to have functioning retinas. That’s why becoming blind later won’t protect from schizophrenia, you still have the functioning protein products being made.reply
My aunt had to have this done. She had c diff and would’ve very likely ended up dead without it.reply
And the remains of the prey becomes fertiliser for the grass, so it’s not all about revenge. But I’m sure that’s in there, somewhere 😂reply
Universe be like, oh so you think you figured me out? How about this!reply
Oh no, the universe is run by JJ Abramsreply
My former boss worked on developing pills so you wouldn’t have to get the poop inserted into your butt.. you’d swallow it instead Not sure if that’s better?reply
I have fucked up taking enough pills that I would absolutely refuse to do that. We've all had an antibiotic at some point start dissolving before getting it down properly, right? We've all experienced something with a coating not quite maintain coating integrity long enough to prevent tasting that nasty medicine taste? If we just shove it up my butt, that's a fixed outcome with known consequences. If I try swallowing it... there's a possible worst case scenario I absolutely could not cope with.reply
My thoughts exactly. The culture has been purified, but… we all know it’s still poopreply
I thought they did it as a nasal tube into your stomach?reply
Cows fart a lot to cover up the smell of the grass. It's a survival mechanism. Trust me, I'm a scientistreply
It has nothing at all to do with their fermenting plant materials in a low-oxygen environment and producing methane as a consequence.reply
Nope. Nothing at all. Your fancy words mean nothingreply
I don't think the emperor would approve of thisreply
... watreply
I was at the American Museum of Natural History in New York last month, and explored the "Scales of the Universe" exhibit, which uses the enormous Hayden Sphere (big enough to house a very large planetarium) as a reference point. At the small end of the scale, it said that if the Hayden Sphere were a hydrogen atom, then the relative size of a proton would be the tiny period-sized dot they had on the sign.reply
> This dream felt like it lasted a long time, but it had only been a few minutes. This premise, in general, scares the fuck outta me.reply
Don’t ever do a breakthrough dose of DMT then. 🫪reply
Good to know lolreply
Maybe that is what happened around 2016 when all this shit started to go bat shit crazy and it just carried all of us over to the new universe.reply
Yeah, hey?! There's one explanation!reply
> when all this shit started to go bat shit crazy In the western world. The rest of the world has been putting up with this shit for a long timereply
“The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age. ” -HPLreply
Ooh, that's a good one.reply
Lmao that’s so vindictivereply
Grass 100% that bitchreply
They found the RIGHT one AND the WRONG onereply
Nature made us curious! Let's keep boldly going!reply
Space Fox Chapter of the Adeptus Astartes, founded specifically to counter a Necron incursion and/or rogue Heretek forces?reply
Brother! Bring the lawnmower! The HEAVY lawnmower!reply
Yes. It is a common remedy for CDiff.reply
This guy did it with his mum's poo and then began getting menopause symptoms like her. [link removed]reply
I saved my great grandma’s life by donating my shit to her. It was about 12 years ago when the procedure was relatively new. They recommended a healthy family member to donate, and I was the only one healthy enough to be a candidate. I had to shit in a bucket and bring it to a facility for them to process it. She lived for another 5-6 years after that.reply
Great, now I have another thing to feel guilty about. RIP Dad, 2014.reply
Warn them so the can do what exactly? You ain't outrunning a horse. You're grass, bro.reply
I've heard in some places in Colorado some do it just to get an edge.reply
Holy crap. The brain is a fascinated thing, hey? Wow!reply
They also sometimes incorporate silicate minerals from the soil to wear down the teeth of their predatorsreply
I’m pretty sure that’s the plot to “three body problem”reply
Zing.reply
Gonna start calling them "lawneaters" and put angry googly eyes on mine... when I get it... which is never since I live in the desert.reply
So grass is just a bunch of tattle-tales? "Hey, someone is eating me, come and eat them please!!!"reply
Yup. And all with a New York accent: “Hey ! I’m eaten here!! [I’m eaten here!”]([link removed]reply
Ice cold, in fact.reply
A sweet, delicious little neutron star.reply
Sometimes, a mother will get one from her baby. If I rember right, chemo can kill off the flora.reply
"we can't comprehend it, so it must have been made by a higher power" Oh the arrogance.reply
It’d be worth it, though, if you were craving sugar and were all outreply
Yeah! Never thought of this as why it's so hard to explain my dreams. They are usually mismatched modalities to my awake brain. Thanks for the think!reply
This is exactly how it is for me! It's never quiet inside my head. I've tried mindfulness stuff but I just can't get it to work for me. There's igen a melody playing as well, it differs which but there's often music.reply
i used to be unable to have no internal monologue at all (as in even if i tried not to think anything, my brain would still think something), until i developed this concept thinking you're talking about i'm still mostly unable to have no thoughts at all at any given point, but the thoughts can be either one (sound, visual, or concept) if i try not to think anything at all, it doesn't last longer than a few seconds and i just hear everything else a bit clearer. if there's nothing else to hear i'll hear my own blood running through my head (why is it so LOUD). i seem to be unable to not hear anything at any given point (if i'm not actively thinking about something, my brain fills the silence with a random song) i mostly think in concepts when i'm trying to understand something big with lots of connections and implications, which is easier and faster to just think in concepts, but if i then wish to explain the thing, i do need to think about it with my internal monologue and put it into words in my head first (and then into words again for what i'm going to say) i also have a very, very active imagination. i can imagine myself or others doing anything (and i mean anything, transforming into a magical creature is just as fine as making a sandwich (though the former is quite more common in my thoughts than the latter, like i already know how to make a sandwich, i don't need to actively think about it)), i can hear anyone say anything in any language (i understand) in their own voice as long as i've heard their voice before, i can feel what i imagine like for example i can imagine someone who is a non-existent creature flying over a big snow island and i can feel the cold wind in their/my wings and i can feel the wet air and the occasional snowflake and i can taste the salt of the nearby ocean water, all while sitting in my dry warm room, which i don't even see anymore past the white snow underneath me can you imagine things like that or is that in the same category of 'wow some people can see themselves do something in their thoughts!' or in a different category but still not possible in your way of thinking?reply
I can imagine those things! I can also think in words or pictures of I try but it's not the standard MO. Thanks for your thoughtful replyreply
I have both as well dude, you put it pretty well. It's all conceptual and memory-based.reply
Ha this is very interesting and probably speaks to why I'm good at some things and terrible at others. For example: I am a design engineer. I can easily manipulate things in my head and "take them apart" and morph them in any which way. I am super good with maps or with anything visually or involving creativity or imagination. I am TERRIBLE with remembering shit to do, writing is slow for me and I typically go through many drafts. I'm really bad at being able to organize my feelings into words especially in real time (like during an argument or conversation).reply
Haha. I’m the opposite there: I failed every organic chemistry question where you’re supposed to rotate the molecule in your mind. I just cannot imagine things / shapes in a 3d plan without physically using or drawing a diagram. I can do 2d rotations or get an idea for general poses (eg for drawing comics), but 3d is beyond my ability to picture in my head.reply
I tend to talk out loud when I write but yeah I don't really plan what I'm gonna write in my head, I write the same as I speak when I'm having a conversation, words come out as I type them. I have to proof read but everybody does and do tend to speak out loud when I write but yeah. My strat to ensure I'm organized is to just plan the entire structure of my paper ahead of time in my notes and just write it out from there. It doesn't really affect the quality of my writing for school and stuff, a prof in my 1st semester of uni said my writing was what he'd expect of a master's student, I'm genuinely quite good at it.reply
Same except I have the voice as well. ADHD makes us more prone to have really good imaginations and creativity. I get a voice on top of all that to converse and debate with but it says some stupid shit sometimes when its being intrusivereply
But, you know, don't.reply
Saved my grandma's life and gave her another 10 years, wild stuff.reply
The unkinky timesreply
You're the only other person I've seen articulate that you think in physical sensation! I do as well, it's a lot of sense memory or anticipation of surface textures. In combo with some language fragments, etc. It's a jumble up there sometimes. Whatever gets it done I supposereply
I have both aphantasia and anendophasia, but my brain is far from silent and dark. Sure, I have no mental imagery or voice, but I still think lol. Just in a different way than you do.reply
How could the question be misunderstood? I am very certain I do not have an internal monologue because there are usually no words in my head. I can think in words if I choose to, but usually I don't. I'm still shocked that most people do have one because it sounds annoying as hell.reply
Because it's not like there's a voice in everyone's head dictating every single thing like an overly intrusive narrator Sometimes you're hungry, so you might just walk in the direction of the kitchen on autopilot. But other times, you might think out the pros and cons of eating donut vs. eating an apple, thinking in terms of words relating to taste, health, etc. How would you picture those concepts without words? Or a step further, you could consider a potential conversation. Something someone else might say, how you might respond, and how they might respond to how they respondreply
> Because it's not like there's a voice in everyone's head dictating every single thing like an overly intrusive narrator People are saying they *do* literally have this! That they'd think the words "I'm hungry, I'll go to the kitchen". That's what the internal monologue is. > Or a step further, you could consider a potential conversation. Something someone else might say, how you might respond, and how they might respond to how they respond That's what I mean when I say I can think in words if I want to. I absolutely have theoretical conversations and interviews and blog posts in my head, because these things inherently require words. But if I'm thinking about wanting and apple vs donut, I'll think about the physical sensation of biting into one, and the flavor, and concepts of healthy vs unhealthy. Maybe a couple words pop up but I'm not narrating the thought process, which many people say they do. (Not trying to argue btw, I just find this whole topic fascinating)reply
Exactly the samereply
You know, I was reading your comment thinking - "Wow this guy is weird" and then transitioned to "Wait, that's how I think too. Pictures only - I crave graphs and infographics to explain everything." Shit.reply
That is indeed truereply
To me, I have all the images and stuff too, but also inner monologue. Question though, do you ever go through entire arguments in your head? Like someone said something and the argument keeps going on even when you walk on or is that not a thing?reply
So basically they're saying "If I'm going down, you're going down with me!" ?reply
That's what I'm saying!reply
lolololreply
Inner monologue is an extra on top of having the same emotions, unconscious connections, imagery and so on. It's not a replacement. You're just missing something that other people have.reply
In some ways having no inner monologue does make it harder to manage negative thoughts. Advice about not listening to the negative voice in my head doesn't really apply because there is no negative voice. Thinking positive affirmations does nothing, because underneath whatever I'm saying in my head, I'm still aware of my original negative thoughts. I feel like if my problems came from an actual voice saying "you are bad and worthless" I'd be able to catch it and say "hey that's not true!", but instead I just have the concept and feeling of being bad and worthless pressing down on me. That said, I am more positive and optimistic than 99% of people I know and I feel like I have unusually low levels of anxiety (I do get depressed but I respond very well to meds so it's not really an issue anymore). I don't *think* any of this is related to the lack of inner monologue, but who knows.reply
I have bipolar disorder and I don't think with words or a distinct voice telling me something (unless I'm recalling previous conversations or reading). Typically it's just like I'm watching scenes from a movie and how those make/made me feel. There's always music in the background though, like a movie soundtrack I guess, so it's never fully quiet. So, if I'm sad I don't think "you're a useless human being", I visualise situations that has lead to why I'm feeling sad/anxious and they go on repeat in my mind until I can dig myself out of that black hole.reply
Thank you for sharing your experience. That seems incredibly exhausting, I guess mental illness finds new and exciting ways to mess with us.reply
Definitely, thankfully medication helps with dulling the intense negative emotions. :) On a lighter note, I tend to say things aloud instead sometimes, since I can't think them... so I've managed to embarrass myself on multiple occations by "talking to myself" in front of strangers in public.reply
Oh boy is it ever. I have multiple voices and singers all going at the same time.reply
That’s super fascinating thank youreply
Do you dream?reply
Yes! Vividly! I also lucid dream, and I hate it.reply
I have aphantasia and vividly dream as well, including maybe 20% lucid. It's very difficult for me to explain my dreams though, like they're super confusing to verbalize in a way that they're not when experienced.reply
Which led to just massive forest fires as the result of lightning due to a bunch of dead trees laying around.reply
Wow that’s crazy. I appreciate your description. I’m like the person you described with aphantasia. I can’t picture things in my head and have terrible facial recognition skills, and get lost super easily. On the other hand I have a constant monologue in my head where i often as you described practice how I would say things in certain situations or go over what I should say at certain times before I say it. I also have a better than average memory.reply
My dad says he can “play a movie” in his head if he wanted to.reply
It's really so dumb, we should celebrate that all of our brains work differently and have different strengths and weaknesses. I wish I didn't have to argue with myself sometimes, it can get so exhausting and make so many things a bigger deal than they need to be. At the same time, I like thinking about concepts by explaining them in my head as if I were talking to someone else.reply
I audibly said “what the fuck does that mean” reading it, see post history for me asking this same thing about cats. Like how do you just “think”. You just instinctively know you want to make a sandwich? How do you learn? Like how are you reading if you aren’t telling yourself the words?reply
That’s why Tom Brady always secures his Spice Melange.reply
Poop back and forth foreverreply
Hate this theory >:(reply
Yeah, and it would spoil your cup of tea as well.reply
i guess i am this too. working in systems, my guy.reply
Yeah continentality had a much bigger effect on coal buildup than any detritovore microbes hanging around.reply
I have an inner monologue but that doesn't mean my thoughts are ALL in words. I too visualize images, concepts etc. But i also have a monologue with words.reply
> Honestly it's weird to me that your thoughts are all in words. Seems limiting. They aren't. It's akin to having verbal subtitles to go along with images and other things.reply
The vast majority of mammalian biomass on earth is hhuman, livestock, or human pets.reply
36% of earths mammalian biomass is humans, 59% is livestock and pets, and 5% is wild mammals.reply
Yes. Plants are actually intelligent to a (somewhat) limited degree. [Here's a video I watched on it recently]([link removed]reply
I tell that to vegans all the time, you're not superior just bc you only eat things that can't scream. They still 'feel' pain.reply
I agree. There are many good reasons to go vegan. Morality isn't one of them.reply
>Fungi is what happened when the cells that would later evolve into animal life became sessile (non moving) and evolved similar to how plants work. I think it's more like animals are fruits/seeds/spores that grew legs. I learned at some point that our ancestors were sessile organisms, like fungi and plants, that released juvenile forms, like fungi release spores or plants disperse seeds, that could migrate and colonise/grow on a new surface. But over time the kids refused to settle down and the animal "fruits" became more efficient at acquiring resources in their mobile form than they would if they settled down. They kept "postponing" the settling down until they just kept on moving indefinitely. It is said they are still moving to this day. It kind of makes sense to me, the first multicellular organisms would have been just an amorphous mass of nearly identical clones with no specialised movement tissue.reply
Well considering that the part of the mushroom we eat is actually the mushrooms reproductive organ you are not too far off in saying that they are like dongers 😂reply
I’ve always felt that Ireland should have a space program.reply
The movie ‘The Happening’ has entered the chatreply
What!? No…reply
You like hot dogs?reply
Oh no! Is it really? That’s so sad, the smell of mowed lawn is so nice 😭reply
It's actually not harmful for the grass. It'd be "better" for the grass to grow as tall as possible but grasses have co-evolved with animals that eat grasses. The signals plants send are helpful as they tell other plants to move or store resources so they can survive/rebuild faster. That means that they have no problem being eaten or cut and grow back quickly. It's what has made grasses so dominant on the plains of North America and Asia. So less *"ahhh I'm being eaten!"* and more *"guys pull in some water, were going to lose the top 35% in a couple minutes. Okay that's over, let's start growing again"*reply
I read that Native Americans in the plains would do controlled burns to encourage fresh new grass growth. The smell of the new grass would draw bison which they would hunt.reply
I love this explanation so muchreply
To me it’s the worst smell imaginable. I literally have to roll my windows up and hold my breath when I drive past someone mowing. If I even get 1 teeny little whiff of fresh cut grass - my allergies attack me hardcore for 2 daysreply
I might be mis-remembering, but I believe Peter Singer made an argument that eating molluscs might be *slightly less immoral* than eating fungus. Wild to think of mushrooms as being more "sentient" than shellfish.reply
there's also planets that rain diamonds. I'd love to fly a spaceship by it with a strong net and just go shopping for a while.reply
It will be an interesting topic for veganismreply
Is this how we get him to triple the NASA budget?reply
Every multicellular organism out here just trying to live their life a quarter mile at a time.reply
expand dongreply
When I found this out as a kid, it wigged me out so badly I stopped eating mushrooms for 10 years Now I love them. But they’re still weird MFersreply
Why are we killing 3 trillion fish a year for only 8 billion people?reply
This is why I only eat fish I catch myself. And I kill them with a knifereply
These new-fangled Archaea thingsreply
Run for your leaves!reply
Does this mean that the grass mowed first will be slightly unhealthier as it grows back?reply
I can't say with certainty but I'm fairly sure grass takes advantage of mycelium in the ground to coordinate resources with surrounding neighbors. So essentially if one blade of grass is low on glucose it can ask it's neighbor for a cup of sugar. This way, any neighbors that benefited from an early warning, can support the blades that were too slow to react. So... I don't think so? I'm pretty sure they more or less share the damage and therefore take less over all. Grass is a fairly "smart" and communal plant.reply
This is way funnier than it should be 😂reply
raspberry alcoholreply
There's gin in that nebulareply
That's a venti caramel machiato with extra whip and 2 shots of espresso in that nebula.reply
Isn't the first stage of a jellyfish life basically plant-like?reply
spiderkash in the sidecarreply
There’s a theory that dominant life form on the planet is actually grass, in the form wheat, rice, maize, barley, oats, rye, millet, sorghum, sugarcane etc (all grasses). Grass has, in fact, domesticated humans. Humans have carried them across the world, protected them, bred them, irrigated them, fertilised them, fenced land for them, killed their competitors, and built entire economies around their reproduction. From the wheat’s-eye view, agriculture was an astonishing success: a relatively obscure wild grass from the Near East became one of the most widely cultivated organisms on Earth because it evolved traits humans found useful (edible seeds, harvestability, storability) and humans then did the rest. Humans thought we were using grass/wheat to feed civilisation. Wheat in fact used civilisation to conquer the world.reply
they should call it T'Aquilareply
nicereply
Aliens.reply
Aliens that were brought here by the octopireply
The smell of cut grass distresses me as well, so I guess it works across species.reply
Yes so they can run awayreply
Fungi of course!reply
No wonder my dogs lose all interest in potty time after I mow.reply
It's more like "The end is near!" (now I'm picture little sandwich boards in each blade of grass)reply
apparently tobbaco plants in the wild both call on insects and lizards and at the same time use nicotine to ward off caterpillarsreply
All we know is it'll be about family.reply
To be fair, that's also kind of like saying the smell of iron in the air is a distress signal for humans. We don't know that it's made as a distress signal. We just know that other things and other grass react to it.reply
Why would anyone do drugs when they could just cut grass instead?reply
A mushroom. Edit: have you heard about salt?reply
I’m violently allergic to this! Smelling fresh cut grass will mess me up if it’s been less than 4 hours. Physical contact with grass cut less than 24 hours ago will cause redness in my skin and mild breathing issues.reply
They are fungireply
secret third thingreply
How many would be killed if humans weren't involved?reply
A lot less by suffocation I imagine. I’ve had asthma attacks before and they were the most horrific experiences of my life. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. The fact that TRILLIONS of these beings are left to suffocate to death yearly makes me lose faith in humanity.reply
Step out of your binary thinking.reply
Mushrooms can even "eat" radiation. True fact. I think they can eat just about anything given the right Crisper tweak. Don't even get me started on slime mold. Because, that stuff is in a class all by itself.reply
Did you never learn about cell types in grade school? That is like saying "animals are neither plant nor fungi. Wtf am I eating?" Yes I'm aware there are more kingdoms than even thosereply
My allergiesreply
My allergies to attack mereply
Yes. So it can run to safetyreply
Many grasses also incorporate silicates (basically tiny sand particles) into them so they wear down herbivore teeth.reply
That's cool as hellreply
So, fresher’s week?reply
> Fungi is what happened when the cells that would later evolve into animal life became sessile This is why "Last of Us" is so incredibly terrifying. It regains motility.reply
It's interesting, but what are plants going to do with this info? It'st not like they can run away.reply
You mean, the grass snitches on bunnies???reply
I have to ask, why? If there was indeed a plant-eating predator in the vicinity, what would warning the other grass plants do to help them? I don't think they have any kind of defense mechanism they can effectively use to prevent themselves from being eaten, or is there?reply
It's not warning the other grass plants. It's alerting other things that *can* smell the grass...that there's an herbivore to eat. Once the herbivore is gone and dealt with, the grass survives. Grass 1, herbivore 0.reply
So grass is a nark?reply
Why do you think it’s called grassingreply
I think the grass is signaling to other predators who eat grass eating animals that there is a grass eating animal. Then the predator comes and eats the grass eating animal, and grass is saved.reply
Fucking snitchreply
Not a plant-eating predator. A predator of the animals that eat plants. Tell the wolves that there's a sheep here.reply
I've read that surrounding grass can respond to the signal by hiding more of its nutrients in its roots to lose less if the above-soil grass is eatenreply
No, the scent alerts the predator that something has been noshing on the plants. Hopefully the predator then eats the whatever, and there's one less thing eating the plants.reply
Remember that evolution is blind and undirected. At some point millions of years ago, some grass randomly mutated to produce cut grass smell. After some uncountably large number of generations, predators figured out that the cut grass smell means food. This meant that the smelly grass was slightly less likely to be eaten, and slightly more likely to reproduce. Let's say that the smelly grass was originally 0.0001% of all grass, it was 0.01% more likely to reproduce each generation, and each generation was 1 year. After 10 million years, there would be no non-smelly grass left. Evolution is very slow and works on very, very small percentages of random chance over a very, very long time.reply
You must be a fun guy at parties.reply
Omg that's why I have never liked the smell of freshly cut grass.. and I used to feel out of place when people said that liked that smell thinking maybe I was the weird one there..reply
Isn't alcohol a very complex organic matter? A big cloud of this would mean a big part of the evolution from quarks (or whatever) into intelligent live is already done elsewhere, right?reply
[Ethanol]([link removed] is actually a fairly simple molecule. Small hydrocarbons like that are pretty common in the universe. Saturn's moon Titan is believed to have whole oceans of liquid ethane and methane, which are structurally very similar to ethanol and methanolreply
Indeed. It's quite easy for the layperson to conflate 'alcohol' the complex beverage with alcohol the class of chemical compounds. It doesn't help when the media reports this cloud as smelling of rum or raspberries, due to presence of esters and ketones.reply
I was also confused when I first read about this a while back. While the main way to make alcohol here is through fermentation, we have to remember, it's just a chemical. Basically elements do shit in space and make alcohol babies, just like they can make water babies.reply
It's organic but not neccesarily that complex. It's just carbon, hydrogen and oxygen. And simplest alcohols (methanol and ethanol) are just alkyl group compounded with hydroxyl (hydroxide ion combounded to organic group). It can be done with two step process when starting with alkane (represented as R-H where R is the alkyl group and H is singular Hydrogen) and first doing free radical halogenation using chloride (Cl2) like R-H + Cl2 -> R-Cl + HCl, and then taking that alkyl chloride (R-Cl) and doing nucleophilic substitution (hydrolysis) with aqueous sodium hydroxide (NaOH) like R-Cl + NaOH -> R-OH + NaCl leaving alcohol (R-OH) and table salt (NaCl, sodium chloride). Based on the alkane that was started with the end result is corresponding alcohol, like with methane becomes methanol (CH4 -> CH3OH) or ethane becomes ethanol (C2H6 -> CH3CH2OH, where those extra carbon and hydroxide atoms form methylene bridge between alkyl group and hydroxyl). Chloride in free radical halogenation can also be replaced with bromine (Br), fluoride (F) or Iodine (I) (although fluoride is rarely used as it has too fast reaction causing explosion and Iodine too slow), which result in corresponding salt.reply
The cloud is largely composed of alcohol in the sense of simple alcohol molecules- hydrocarbons with a hydroxyl functional group. These alcohols (methanol, ethanol etc) aren't particularly considered complex organic matter. However, analysis of the cloud has indicated the presence of ethyl formate. This is an ester which can act as a precursor to amino acids- the building blocks of life. Quite how these molecules would form more complex life from there we don't yet know; but it is interesting that such fundamental molecular building blocks can form in space.reply
"This animal is neither a dog or a cat. MIND FUCK!"reply
A saprophytic life form. There's no sexes either. Just + and - to denote that there's two organisms in close proximity to one another. Since they're detritovores for the most part, it's like eating a catfish.reply
Hot take: Freshly cut grass smells like watermelon (and vice versa).reply
Thanks. As if mowing wasn't bad enough as is, now I have to do it with an erection.reply
Trichromes on weed plants are like the thorns on a rose, also a defensive evolution.reply
It's also the smell of phosgene gas... like if you accidentally produce it by cleaning metal with chlorinated brake cleaner and then weld on it before it's dry. One whiff will ruin (or end) your life.reply
It would seem I'm the natural predator of grassreply
The phallic shape actually isn't a coincidence: The edible part of the mushroom is it's reproductive vector. Those little fin looking things under the cap produce spores which become more fungus.reply
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Mushrooms are just fungireply
Indeed Both fungi & animals form the clade of opisthokontsreply
Eyes have evolved something like eight different times. They're just so damned useful.reply
Genes: "There's all this electromagnetic shit shining everywhere. Should we interact with it?" Natural Selection: " I'll allow it.."reply
I've heard a fascinating take that the earliest eyes were just the ability to tell light from dark, which also meant up from down when you're in water. Up is towards the light, towards the surface. Down is towards the darkness, towards the bottom. Long before simple organisms were actually 'seeing anything,' there were evolutionary advantages to being able to orient and navigate up and down. From that photosensitive sensor, many things eventually developed.reply
This is why creationists using the complexity of the eye as evidence for intelligent design is the shittest ‘gotcha’ when they think it’s the best. I’ve never met one that hasn’t played that card. You can pick one animal that exists today that each displays a step along the evolutionary path toward a complex eye like in humans (and branch it into more of a tree shape to include things like the mantis shrimp). Some animals developed the most primitive form of eye that every other animal once did and carried on from, but due to lack of evolutionary pressure they just didn’t go further. In unicellular organisms it’s a light sensitive spot. In animals it’s a patch of photosensitive cells on its surface. When evolved further that patch dips in to a photosensitive divot that offers more info than a flat surface. Eventually that divot deepens and encloses into a sphere and the opening narrows, creating a pinhole camera which is what the Nautilus has. Then from there you develop an iris, a lens, and so on.reply
tubes ftw.reply
They also love to eat ticks and if a tick is carrying Lyme disease and bites them - it will no longer be carrying it. They are also immune to snake venom. Worse reaction is they pass out for a couple of days. I love them- we get a lot around our property out here in the country .reply
Magcargoreply
Magcargo should've been Fire/Steel. At least since gen 8, Magcargo is an honorary horse due to being able to know High Horsepower - some small consolation for the horrible Fire/Rock typing.reply
WHAT THE HELL'S THATreply
Animals that decided multicellularity was so cool they did it againreply
New blog name for surereply
New blog name is so much better than new band name. Every time someone says that im always thinking "that would be a terrible band name, there isnt a single band ive ever heard with a name like that." Reading your comment and then rereading OPs i was instantly brought back to tumblr.reply
Eyes have evolved at least 40 times.reply
I remember that episode blowing my kids' minds (that and the water bear one). Now I have the creature report song stuck in my head. So I sang it out loud so it would get stuck in my husband's head too lolreply
We’re done with our mission!reply
TIL about Siphonophores, extremely interesting creatures thanks for sharing about them.reply
I mean, you technically could with two penises.reply
wow you should write a book. this is a really good explanation. thank youreply
Nah, just an old science nerd. Here a great video to help explain a lot of the concepts: [link removed]reply
> We are closer to the size of the universe than we are to the smallest thing we can detect. You need to say what you mean by "closer to the size". Orders of magnitude? The size difference between me and the smallest thing we can detect is about 6'5".reply
Addendum to this fact: it's impossible to measure the one-way speed of light. All of our measurements are of the round-trip speed of light. So, if there happened to be such a thing as a universal "right" and "left", and light traveled instantly to the right and at 1/2*c* to the left, there'd be no way for us to tell.reply
That's easy to explain. You can't go the speed of light. You can get very close, but you can't actually go at "c." Now, if you're going 99.9999999999% of the speed of light and shine a light in front of you, you'll see the beam leave the flashlight at what to you appears to be the speed of light. And the people who see you moving at almost the speed of light also see that beam leave the flashlight at what to them appears to be the speed of light. This is the basis of time dilation due to velocity. Your time frame has slowed down.reply
Not just trees but all plant life with a healthy mycorizal fungi network do thisreply
That's because your scenario is effectively invalid as a premise - if you are moving at the speed of light, you are a photon.reply
A photo with a flashlight.reply
Fine... Theoretically, both yourself, the light from that flashlight, and the (necessarily) massless flashlight itself, would all just move at the same speed.reply
Photons aren't the only things moving at light speed. Basically, anything without mass will always move that fast.reply
So they can go and fuck themselves. Twice.reply
\- You can’t go at the speed of light. You can just get arbitrarily close. \- “Nothing” happens when you’re going close to the speed of light. You’re already going close to the speed of light wrt some other arbitrary frame of reference, which itself is moving close to the speed of light wrt you. The thing is that you both experience time and space differently. And differently in such a way that, given that speed=space/time, you both observe the same speed of light. But your measuring times and spaces will be different. You’ll see each other compressed, moving slower, etc.reply
I'm pretty sure all marsupials doreply
Female Hyenas have a fake penis made from an oversized clitoris.reply
And they give birth through it.reply
> Opossums have two penises ~~and~~ *or* two vaginasreply
Somewhat related, and the thing that really depresses me as an adult. FTL travel seems permanently out of reach and we have an entire universe of pretty stars and possibly other life we will never know. A whole cosmos serving as glorified set dressing for our little play. It sounds fake because I grew up on SF novels by Asimov, Clarke et al, Star Wars and Star Trek. It’s a massive disappointment to say the least.reply
I mean, wormholes are still possiblereply
The deep sea in general is so very odd. Mostly my mental image of the ocean is coral reefs, but that is so very little of what's actually down there. It's mostly vast sandy/rocky plains and the occasional terrifying monster.reply
Jack Reacher is 17% bee.reply
You are wittier than I’ll ever bereply
Let me shift your perspective. You are already going near the speed of light. You are also already completely stationary. Intertial reference frame requires a simple truth. If you're in a box, with no access to the outside, not accelerating or decelerating, there is absolutely no way to determine what your outside speed is, because it doesn't matter. Measure Lightspeed in your box. You get one number. Now fire the engines on your box, and go near the speed of light. Cut the engines, coast, measure the speed of light again, you'll get the same number.reply
Cancer supremacyreply
They're a motherfucker to cook, too.reply
On a logarithmic scale, we're pretty close to the middle. Except, of course, for yo mama.reply
And they prioritize their genetic relativesreply
And when you have a whole bunch of seedlings all growing together, they actually show signs of 'play' with their siblings by sending false signals to each other, it's like a chemical version of tag.reply
And 13 nipples. Not in rows. 12 in a circle with one in the middlereply
That makes so much sense and pleases me that nature planned for the feeding process - all those pups gathered around in a proper circle to feed, like around a table haha. Not sure how the center pup would manage though.reply
What does that mean? I mean…like…what are the implications of that?reply
It's an indicator of a functioning biosphere i.e. alien life.reply
I first learned about this from the Jurassic Park novel, there's a whole aside about it that didn't make it into the movie (Ellie briefly mentions how actively plants defend themselves during the famous dining room debate scene).reply
Reading the [wiki]([link removed] page [like]([link removed]reply
And then again and again and againreply
First, you can't go the speed of light. But as you approach it, time and space literally bend from your perspective to keep the speed of light constant.reply
That's because its not *really* the "speed of light". It's the *speed of causality*. Photons just happen to be mass-less.reply
Not just throught the roots. Also the leaves and bark. (Not a tree, but) for example, the smell of cut grass is a distress signal from the grass to warn other grassreply
It's iron oxide, not metallic iron.reply
Someone tell that to Minecraft bees that are out day and night in the Nether.reply
No. That's likely not why that evolved. Actually, it probably is. Disregard.reply
> No ody has ever effectively explained what happens if I'm going the speed of light and shine a light in front of me. It's a question without a real answer, as you can't travel at the speed of light. Of you went at 99.9999999 prevent the side of light and turned on a fish light, it would look to you that it was traveling away from you at the speed of light.reply
That sounds like a prequel to that really terrible movie mark wahlburg did…reply
you can't move at the speed of light. But even if you're going at 99.99999% of the speed of light and shine a flashlight then the light from the flashlight will look like it's moving at the speed of light stillreply
return to crabbereply
Cus they descend from animals. That's all it takes.reply
And snakes even evolved to fly.reply
For sure your mom isreply
You simply can’t go the speed of light, and it would actually be meaningless to even imagine things from a light speed perspective, kinda like dividing by zero. That perspective just doesn’t exist.reply
From my understanding if you could somehow go the speed of light, time wouldn't effect you. Everything would happen instantly. So a photon that gets made on the core of the sun, bounces around for however long, then leaves the sun, travels several light minutes to hit your eyes to be seen; from our perspective would be however old that all of that took. But from its perspective it was created and impacted your eye immediately, absolutely no time in between.reply
That’s a popular analogy, and it makes some amount of sense if you’re imagining something that is near light speed. But it really comes down to a photon does not and can’t have a reference frame, it can’t experience either time nor timelessness.reply
While this isn’t wrong, I think the more accurate and easier to understand way is to say that the speed of light is equal to the speed of causality. As is the same for anything without mass.reply
Yeah, that's a lot easier.reply
No I think his is easier to understandreply
The easiest way to understand it is like so: You are ALWAYS moving through spacetime at CONSTANT speed. As in, you are moving at "speed of light", always. But because it is through spacetime, you need to "split" that speed between space AND time. So when you increase your speed through space, you have to reduce your speed through time.And when you decrease your speed through space, you have to put that speed back into the speed you are going through time.reply
It's a pet peeve of mine that c is mostly known as the speed of light rather than the speed of causality. It's not like light is setting some universal speed limit, it's just that light is only able to travel as fast as the speed of causality allows it, because anything going faster than c would be going backwards in timereply
So have crocodiles, cats, moles and slothes [link removed]reply
Wait until you hear about echidnasreply
Two!?!?! RFK Jr screwed up stopping for the raccoon!reply
Broreply
That's the point. I guess.reply
And again.reply
In which one? With which one?reply
Precisely.reply
Greedy bastards.reply
All of the crab-like non-crabs are only related at the infraorder level (king crabs, porcelain crabs, and hairy stone crabs), which is close but not “they were about to become crabs anyway”. It’s like saying all monkeys are about to become hairless like humans. They’re obviously similar but them all evolving the same trait is genuinely unusual.reply
Their body temp is so low that they almost never get rabies.reply
link??reply
Here ya go [[link removed]reply
For the whole species? Do they share them on a schedule, or is it like a lottery?reply
One for everyday, one for Sunday best.reply
> Opossums have two penises and two vaginas Should this be: Opossums have two penises or two vaginasreply
Its some stranger things shitreply
And that premise might not be completely true: [The Wood Wide Web was the Biggest Scandal in Science]([link removed]reply
I learned about these guys from a Callous Daoboys song time stamped link: [link removed]reply
Unlike me, they can.reply
This is the question Einstein was trying to answer.reply
If you move at the speed of light, time does not exist, you would just instantly teleport to the moment you cease to exist. So it does not make sense to turn on a flashlight while you are moving at the speed of light since you would literally not have enough time to do anything while moving at the speed of light.reply
What, whaaaat??reply
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That was a really cool read, thanks.reply
Everything we know tells us that this is nothing to be afraid of, quite the opposite. Mainly, we have to different sources to know: 1: People whose bodily functions died, but they were revived before the brain degraded too much. They usually describe this as pure perception in a sense of 100% peace 2: Drugs and states of our brains functionality. We have some knowledge about what is happening in our brains when we die. For example, one thing is that a lot of DMT floods into our brain. Another thing is the frequencies our brains works with. Both can be experienced with the help of substances. People who tried that (myself included) very often have a sense to be pure existence, to be connected to "everything", to exist in a timeless state of nothing than potential, to get dissolved into the all including sea of energy, and similar. Me for myself am totally looking forward to the experience of dying. It's the last experience we can have, and it will be an totally new one!reply
Im always worried im gonna get smushed by a piano or somwthing and miss out on my death tripreply
Lol. You'll catch that road runner one day.reply
I think this makes sense because if your body is shut down, then you can't feel the sensation of whatever killed you: drowning, heart attack, crushed by a vending machine, etc. But it's also possible to have a very bad trip on DMT. My sister has had two bad trips and one good trip on it. During the bad ones, she heard dark voices telling her to say goodbye to her friends and she literally felt like she was going to die. So if we base our hypothesis of what death looks like on DMT, then we can't say that it's going to be a pleasant experience really.reply
The DMT thing is a myth, the quantities produced by our body are way too small to have any effect akin to the one of exogenous DMT or similar drugsreply
RIP Pluto 😢reply
I will never accept Pluto receiving all the love while Eris gets ignored completely. It's pretty much the same size and has a [way cooler orbit]([link removed] I DEMAND EQUALITY FOR ERIS!!reply
Yeah! That eccentric orbit havin’ dwarf planet deserves love!!reply
As a Warframe player, I wind up thinking of Eris, Sedna, Ceres, and Pluto. There's at least some of us who have random reasons to know about other dwarf planets! Somewhat related, learning about Eris, Sedna, and Ceres (thanks to Warframe initially) helped me understand why we classify Pluto as a dwarf planet.reply
I heard it’s making a comeback…reply
DON'T CALL IT A COMEBACK, I BEEN HERE FOR YEARS -Pluto, probablyreply
Well hotdog!reply
“It’s a dwarf planet not a real planet” with that logic who’s going to tell the dwarf humans?!reply
And the munchkin kitty cats?? T_Treply
Rolling the end credits.reply
Shit I knew I should have paid for upgraded storagereply
To be fair, all planets are from outer space, with one possible exception.reply
Your mom? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^IamsosorryIcouldn’tresistreply
Sort of like falling down a well, and light gets less and less distinctreply
Sure but you still know you’re falling down a well…reply
omg stahpreply
LSD is awesome!reply
I know someone who has different glasses prescriptions for each alter. It’s pretty wild.reply
I'm skeptical of that. A planet that far out is going to have a very long orbital period. I imagine we'll need more than a couple years worth of data to be conclusive on anything.reply
The telescope in question (Vera Rubin Observatory) is designed to capture every transient object in the Southern Hemisphere sky. It's *very* powerful, and could detect the hypothetical Planet Nine just from the tiniest changes in blocked background light or even very minor gravitational lensing. We know roughly how big Planet Nine would need to be, roughly where in the sky it would be at, and how it would affect the readings - astronomers are really good at detecting moving things.reply
It could very well have a very oblong orbit and take generations to be closer enough to see.reply
what about that thingy where you don't really die, your consciousness just keeps going in the universe where you survived until its all over.reply
> where you don't really die This is the key misinterpretation of quantum immortality. It's not a hypothesis that says "at the point of death you'll 'jump' into another reality where you didn't die". It's an illustration of the consequences of one of the interpretations of quantum mechanical uncertainty - that if there are two possibilities A and B with no way to determine which one will occur (as happens in quantum mechanical systems), rather than one being "chosen", instead the universe splits into two identical universes, the difference being A happens in one and B happens in the other. As ultimately, all macro sized systems are based on quantum mechanical systems, "quantum immortality" is the idea that, if you die in this universe, there's some other universe out there where each little possibility went the way to prevent you from dying. In **that** universe. You're still dead in this one.reply
Quantum immortalityreply
Ceres?reply
The Central Pangean Mountains. They cut the supercontinent into two halves, with almost the entire northern section of Pangea being rendered a massive super-desert because of the mountain range's rain-shadowreply
That’s such an interesting thought if one is coming from the camp of “this state of being is our learning ground before ascension”.reply
Or deleting browser historyreply
Then how come people that have died and been brought back don’t remember it? I’m a retired RN and have brought back enough people. They don’t remember it.reply
Most people don’t even remember the moments after being in an accident, so I’m with you, I don’t think we perceive anything. Our brain could still be “on” same way our brain is on when we’re knocked out but for all intents and purposes we are unaware of itreply
[link removed] It can happen. Sometimes people can even be awake during CPR. Specially when you get old lucas on them. My buddy started working a lady and she batted their hands away and told them to stop so they get freaked out and stop and she slumps back over. They start up compressions again and she wakes up again and pads are on and she’s in full blown asystole whenever they stop. They transport to the ER and after working her for awhile, the doc just straight up tells her every time we stop CPR, you die. What do you want us to do? Her chest was just mush at that point and she said just let me die so they finished that round and confirmed no cardiac wall motion with echo and asystole on the monitor and called it.reply
There’s always an outlier.reply
has any of them had an "afterlife" experience? or is that a myth?reply
None that I’ve brought back to my knowledge, but I ain’t really sit around and talk to em about that. Time is kinda limited and usually they are intubated and unconscious and on a ventilator.reply
Yeah, "we likely know that we have died" is such rubbish.reply
But the brain requires so much energy to function that it's highly unlikely that's true. After all, breathing pure nitrogen makes one unconscious in approximately 30 seconds, so how can brain function continue for 15 minutes? Feel free to fact-check this... it's 4am here and I should be asleep!reply
Pluto gym arcreply
Isn’t this a real procedure where you grow the tooth in your body and it’s retrofitted to your eye?reply
Yeah, they take a tooth and first put it in the cheek, then when it has grown over they move it into the eye with an artificial lens inside the tooth. [link removed]reply
The only true existence you can be completely sure of is your ownreply
I always assumed sleep was when we backed up data to the cloud? You need to do incremental backups!reply
And also the mites on your eye lashesreply
I learned about this when I was in elementary school and it lead little neurotic, anxious me to develop trichotillomania. So I basically didn’t have any eyelashes for a few years.reply
DID in general is so incredible to me. It makes me question what it means to be "me."reply
Can confirm one of my alters is color blind while the rest have different levels of near and farsightedness. We weren’t born colorblind btw. The rest of us can see color it’s just one that can’t see color at all everything’s a grayscale for them.reply
Check my answer above to get a more positive outlook ;)reply
Yes, you do. Ask anyone who has died. Steven Barnes, the author, died a few months ago. Fortunately, he was already going to an emergency room for an issue related to his hip replacement. As he walked into the ER, he died. They brought him back a few minutes later, but he has a clear description of what he experienced for those few moments. And yes, it did include him knowing he was dead. But he still had time to choose to not stay dead. As he felt he still had too much to do here, he opted to come back.reply
Did this answer make everyone’s face itch or just mine?reply
Doubt it, people don’t really think much after they lose oxygen in their brainreply
That is not the same thing as remaining consciousreply
Well that's awful. But it also seems unlikely considering your brain is fucked without oxygen which gets there via blood pumping. May be some residual electrical signals but I heckin doubt your in any way conscious.reply
what is "breath through status designation"? like LSD can breathe?reply
But wait there's more! The guy who invented the guillotine was put to death by his own creation. There had been talk as to whether death was instant or not after having one's head removed. So he told his executioners he would blink after the beheading, until he no longer could. He blinked *fifteen times*! ^^That's ^^how ^^the ^^story ^^goes ^^anyway.reply
How sentient must the observer be? Like, how complex did life have to become for Earth to stop being an evershifting dreamscape?reply
It’s a misunderstanding of the term “observe”. In order to observe a particle, you must either directly interact with the particle (hitting it directly with your sensor) or by an intermediary particle (bouncing a photon off it). All cases require the collapse of the wave function into a discrete particle for the interaction to occur, and so all “observation” collapses the wave function. It has nothing to do with consciousness or sentience.reply
It took me so long to realize this, I feel like whoever decided that's the word we should use when explaining this concept to the layman really did it a disservice. The idea that it's lookin at it that causes the collapse is completely incomprehensible and bizarre while the idea that touching it causes the collapse is something you can actually sort of understand. It's still weird but it sounds far more reasonable.reply
It's interesting that it collapses at all. Like, if two objects both have, let's say, 8 states they can be in superposition in, and they hit each other, What makes it so that it's not 64 outcomes all existing in superposition? Also, if that's all it takes to collapse the waveforms, the whole not locally real thing must apply to insanely tiny units of the universe.reply
In this case observer just means taking a measurement. A sensor will do it. It's interacting with the system.reply
Well, there is a widely growing notion of Panpsychism right now. Panpsychism basically rationalize that consciousness is a fundamental part of the universe. In the same way people (relatively) recently have figured out electrons can further be broken down into individual parts- Panpsychists, think that at very 0 level, consciousness is the fundamental universe. Anika Harris, Philip Goff, Thomas Nagel, among others have written about this philosophy or covered it in detail. [link removed] It seems, to be a notion that we haven't figured out yet. What lies at the most fundamental level of reality. Again, we used to think the electron was it. Now, not so much.reply
Have you heard of c-pattern theory? It attempts to explain how consciousness is dependent on essentially the physical makeup of your neuronal connections moment-to-moment. It could explain convergent thoughts and how thinking something could make it more likely for that thought to 'spontaneously' arrive for someone else.reply
Eli5?reply
I think superposition is that they found that matter can exist in two places at oncereply
Thanks! That’s actually pretty coolreply
You mean that it's imaginary, that it's a sellout, that it's not adjusted for inflation, or that it's only globally real?reply
> dedox mites Which are related to spiders. You have face spiders.reply
It is possible. Space is unbelievable. If you traveled at the speed of light for about 8 HOURS you would still be in our solar system. BTW someone should tell Elon about this fact, before saying you are going to colonize space.reply
I think we have a winner. Well, good enough for me. Why would anyone even think of doing this?reply
“Did You hear about Pluto? Thats messed up, right”reply
Qell you pass out without bloodflow so i think you will be dreaming at best.reply
Nuh uh, I use face wash.reply
All the bacteria and bugs you get rid of are replaced in about two hoursreply
Seriously!? I think this might be the most amazing part of this facial microbiome.reply
This is going to inspire someone's future ocd ritualreply
What do you mean a bird species independently evolved twice? Bird species are constantly evolvingreply
Spooky Action at a distancereply
This and "locked in syndrome" are terrifying to me.reply
Shit's sake, the real unbelievable fact here is that I've somehow never seen the name of the belt in print before. I would've put money on it being "kiper" belt. I'm an audiobook listener so I'm currently having the "well I apparently misheard this character's name each of the fifty-odd times it was read to me" feeling about a *science fact* I presumably should've learned in *third grade.*reply
The comment you are replying to spelled it wrong. It's Kuiper Belt.reply
If it makes you feel any better, I spent the longest time saying "coo-ee-per" belt.reply
I’ve had severe anxiety/panic disorder for most of my life now… id be afraid it would make me worse somehow, or manifest some other sort of illness, but there are times where I’m so desperate I really would try lsd. If it could help me… well, my gratitude would be endless.reply
To offer another frame of reference for that mountain thing, there are trilobite fossils on the summit of Mount Everest from when it was once the floor of the Tethys oceanreply
You mean the "quantum foam."reply
To quote Gus from the show Psych “Did you hear about Pluto? That’s messed up…”reply
They can also have different allergiesreply
The Detox Mites is my new favorite band name.reply
My doctor gave me a sample for sleeping pills a while back. I tried them, ended up having sleep paralysis the next morning. I was alone in my house so it was quiet, I couldn't move or open my eyes for probably a minute or so. I seriously thought I was dead, maybe it's like that?reply
Well, at least half of the mass your scale reports to you isn't human. That's how much of your body is foreign to it - gut bacteria, multiple different skin/hair based biomes, etc.reply
That's 15 minutes of real time. But time perception is quite variable. Who knows how "long" a person perceives death to be?reply
If you've never seen Melancholia, it's worth the horrible drudgery to get to the very end for...well. Let me not spoil it.reply
"what if the Theia collision happened again, but even worse this time"reply
Can you expand on this?reply
I talked about in the thread already. >Iterative evolution is a form of convergent evolution, namely intraspecific convergent evolution–look it up if you don't believe me. >They could be considered two separate subspecies for the reason that there was about 36,000 years between the extinction of population A and the establishment and convergent iteration of Population B, despite their morphology being virtually indistinguishable. They could be considered a separate subspecies for a categorical/taxonomic convenience due to stratigraphic difference in where/when they were found, not a morphological one. >For all intents and purposes, they are the same bird found in different strata who evolved independently at separate times to become the same subspecies from an ancestral group after experiencing separate iterations of the same environmental conditions at separate times–they are indistinguishable from eachother and were likely capable of reproduction between groups. The distinction is largely arbitrary and only useful to separate them by time if you want to use it–**they don't even have a separate subspecies name between groups A & B**.reply
The Bloop, a massive sound in the deep ocean, was explained by a glacier cracking. Not a kaiju. Or another massive underwater creature. Like we're supposed to believe that.top-level
Oh definitely Kaijureply
Female bed bugs don't have an orifice for sex the males stab them with a barb-like appendage to reproducetop-level
maybe that answers some questions as to what they're doing to my ankles at nightreply
it is predicted that all things eventually become iron if protons don't decay.top-level
Locusts are just grasshoppers that hulk out when you get too many of them togethertop-level
That putting lead in gasoline stopped car engines from knocking when turning them off. So lead was added to gasoline solely to stop the annoying sound and as a byproduct spreading all over the environment. Same guy discovered chlorofluorocarbons for refrigeration which nearly destroyed the ozone layer. He developed a disease and built a pulley system to help him out of bed, he was asphyxiated by it.top-level
i would say he needs to be stopped but obviously he was stoppedreply
The way some people’s minds work, only for immediate gratification and no thought for future consequences. No planning. No risk analysis. Wow.reply
Thomas Midgley jr His death is accepted as a suicidereply
The lead did more than stop the sound; those little detonations damage the engine. We developer different mixes of higher octane fuels to make up for the move away from leadreply
Greece has no documented peanut allergies. There are two main theories to this: 1) allergies, which are an autoimmune response, are more prevalent due to modern medicine and Greek culture exposes children to allergens more than American culture or, much more simply, 2) peanuts just aren’t really present in Greek cuisine There are some countries in Africa that also don’t have documented peanut allergies. I believe Angola is one? Same theories. I watched a nat geo thing on it two years agotop-level
That a lot of the stars we see in the sky are no longer there. They’ve died out, but it takes so long for the light to reach earth that we haven’t seen the extinction yet. So to us, they’ve only ever existed as traveling light.top-level
Bananas produce antimatter.top-level
Thats bananasreply
Bananaphonereply
The fact that space between galaxies is expanding at rates faster than the speed of light. At some point our observable universe will be completely dark (after billions of years), because the other galaxies will be so far away and their light wouldn't be able to ever reach us . If a civilisation were to pop up in the Milky Way at that point, they would have absolutely no way of knowing there are other galaxies in the Universe. For them, Milky Way will be their whole Universe.top-level
Milky Way was the whole universe until 1923 when parralax measured the first galaxy.reply
Okay…all the comments about quantum entanglement. Do I have the energy or emotional fortitude to go down this rabbit hole? For clarification, I don’t science…I have a useless liberal arts education.top-level
Science is for everyone!reply
It’s fascinating. There are plenty of YouTube videos that explain it. What’s really cool is that quantum entanglement suggests that, if we can harness it, we can communicate instantaneously between extreme distances.reply
I believe (and I'm sure someone will correct me!) quantum entanglement doesn't allow for the transmission of information like that. The incredibly oversimplified analogy I use in my head is to imagine you work at a ball factory. The factory always makes two balls, one red and one blue. You don't know which is which though, because they pop out of the processing line packed in a box. So you then take one of those boxes and travel across the world and you open it. As soon as you open it and find out what color it is, now you know what color the other one is. That's essentially quantum entanglement, two objects that have some shared information that links them and means when you measure one of them you instantly know information about the other. That's definitely a gross oversimplification but it helps my brain not break and as far as I understand it it's good enough for me when I don't work in the field of quantum physics lol.reply
Yeah but the fun bit is: Both balls are both red and blue at the same time. The function only collapses the moment we measure it and due to the laws of physics if one ball is red the other one **must** be blue, but which is which gets decided the moment we measure it. If we were able to actually influence entangled particles, then we'd send information faster than light which completely breaks pretty much everything we know about the universe and physics. Tldr: You can't transmit information faster than light -> you can't influence the spin of entangled particles to "decide"/influence what the spin of an entangled particle far away is. But the spin does get decided the moment we measure it and the other one gets the opposite spin due to physics. It's fucked.reply
My current understanding suggests (Please correct me if I am wrong) entanglement correlations cannot be used to transmit information. They are not a physical signal or energy transfer, but nonlocal correlations in probability structure. It's more like a hidden variable; the state was already determined beforehandreply
Everything we know about quantum entanglement strongly suggests that we will never be able to do any such thing.reply
Try a few episodes of PBS Space Time over on the Tube of Youreply
Funny thing is that velociraptors most definitely were covered in feathers like modern birdsreply
That's crazy old. But I looked it up, and the Nautilus had to wait 50 million years before the first shark appeared. It's even older.reply
It’s weird that Star Trek doesn’t feature more crab peoplereply
MONGO IS APPALEDreply
Our favorite murder chicken!! Also hello fellow crawler!!!reply
It's so easy to believe when you see cassowaries walking around.reply
Cassowaries are 1000% dinosaurs that escaped mass extinction and evolution. Have you heard them?!reply
I live in a cabin in the Australian rainforest. I haven't slept in monthsreply
It is not "about" the same. They are identical: they are both the speed of causality, which is the maximum speed of anything in the universe.reply
“Talk like people” btwreply
Non-crab \*crustaceans\* evolving into crabs, not everythingreply
My brain shut off half way thru reading that. The combo of not currently being on my meds and being ready for bed are not super conducive for this thread apparently LOLreply
Just think of two soap bubbles becoming one soap bubble. Then correlate that with the universe just ending at any given moment without warning.reply
This was a very concise explanation, thank youreply
But also don't worry about it, because we still don't exactly know that it would happen, and if it did it wouldn't be likely to happen for many many billions of years. Also it's possible it wouldn't outrace the expansion rate of the universe enough to EVER reach us, depending on where and when it happened.reply
Also, if it ever did happen, the propagation of the true vacuum happens at near light speed, to my understanding. There would be no warning of the end, nor any observation of the end, unless there's something after this life for us to experience. Personally, that's a rather relieving notion - to me, there's nothing to fear about something you can't experience.reply
[xkcd: Carcinization]([link removed]reply
r/relevantxkcdreply
Are you from the Cult of Carcinization?reply
And that's who we have oil or coal I thinkreply
And with that in mind it is theorized that if there were life on other planets in mind similar to us they may have hit a technological barrier if their planet never developed coal deposits. Coal is incredibly energy dense and without the original systems we developed around its use a lot of modern advances simply dont exist because without coal we have much harder times reaching and maintaining certain levels of heat that led to more advanced systems. Without coal, other species would have a problem we didnt need to solve, that absence could drive innovation we dont consider or it could be a stopping point for technological limits.reply
Without coal, petroleum, and the holocene (which allows intensive agriculture), we'd never have been able to achieve the global supercivilization/technology we have now. i tend to be of the opinion that if other human-equivalent intelligences have evolved elsewhere in the universe, they're likely hunter gatherers, and will remain so.reply
Coalreply
It's even weirder that than that. The genes that trigger the development of body sections during embryonic development are called the [homeobox genes]([link removed] and they're present in our chromosomes in an order that mimics our body structure. Animals like humans and flies and practically everything have a sort of blueprint in our genes. Octopuses have these genes randomly distributed across their genome. It's as though they're scrambled. This means that in some ways, they're the most alien animals on Earth, because they lack this property that virtually every other animal shares.reply
>They oscillate in time indefinitely See, when I try to create a perpetual motion machine, I'm the whacka doodle.reply
All birds are! They belong to the raptorial group of theropod dinosaurs and have some freaky extinct relatives that hadn't fully settled on the current bird bodyplan yet For example, the enantiornithes, which have pretty much the exact same skeleton as birds, except they retained their teeth and claws on the end of their wings The evolution from "small raptor" to "gliding raptor" to "flying raptor" to bird is well-represented in the fossil recordreply
And most of the dinosaurs that stood on two legs and hunted likely had feathers, warm blood, and hollow bones, not lizard characteristics.reply
Having a cockatiel in my home is proof enough to me that birds are dinosaurs. It's a miniature winged dinosaur, and it's just as loud and destructive as movies and dino documentaries would have you imagine dinosaurs were. As I'm typing this, I'm watching her shred into pieces an envelope that's probably important.reply
How odd, I'd never heard of sympathetic ophthalmia until a couple of days ago and now I've read about it twice!reply
Return to crabreply
*Evolvereply
I think this is what you meant - that the moment we see the sun disappear would be the same moment that everything would drift apart. It seems like you're saying we would see the sun disappear immediately and then 8 min later everything would drift.reply
While this is a cool phenomenon, it's worth noting this isn't the only body plan that has repeatedly evolved from relatively distantly related organisms. [link removed]reply
Like most things in science, we've agreed on a constant but you have to also consider Einstein's Convention/Einstein synchronization (or ESC) which is why "about" is as precise as it needs to be.reply
A lot of wild turkeys live near us, and every time I see one (or a flock), I excitedly exclaim to my kids, “look guys, dinosaurs!” They’re old enough now to recognize this as a dad joke, but it’s true and it’s not entirely tongue in cheek. I was a kid when Jurasssic Park came out and I was mystified by the idea of seeing real live dinosaurs. I know enough now to know that I get to see them every day via birds. And that’s cool as hell. Especially Turkeys because, man, they REALLY look like dinosaurs.reply
Why not Zoidberg?reply
If dinosaurs still existed I wonder if we'd be hunting them or even raising them for meat. Imagine being a velociraptor farmer lol.reply
Ostrich farms.. the answer is always "we would farm them"reply
Just don't let the CFIA and RCMP find out lol.reply
That's what Kegseth calls pregamingreply
My first memory is waking up from an afternoon map in a dark room with the door open to the living room where the light is on. My grandma comes in, she sees me standing in the bed and she says with a big smile, "Oh, you're awake?" I absolutely don't know if this memory is real or not. I would have been probably less 2, and I'm not even sure if you can retain memories from that early age. My next memory is from the first day of nursery where I was 3+.reply
I have a memory of the wall paper in the house we lived in when I was born. I was in a walker so this is from before I learned to walk. No, I'm not a slow learner. : ) I figure it was before I turned two.reply
Mine too!reply
Now I see why people say that Oregon has a similar climate to the UK.reply
I recall reading that it's actually crustaceans that eventually all turn into crab shapereply
In lower gravity situations, like for small land animals or animals living in water On land it seems more like the quadrupedal herbivore is more common.reply
I thought it was that their original pollinator had gone extinctreply
I'm also sure I also read that if that happened ^((which it couldn't it's practically impossible even if the sun were to live until the end of the universe)), we'd eerily still be able to see sunlight reflecting off further out planets like Mars and Saturn etc, as they'd not yet know the Sun was gone.reply
I've seen weird, and yeah, it rains mostly.reply
What do you think how long the last living person could survive after the sun suddenly disappearing? I bet it's possible to go for months or maybe even years for some individualsreply
It’s not impossible to survive for a while under the right conditions. Meaning: an already fully-stocked shelter complete with food, water, stored energy capable of producing enough electricity to heat your space, etc. The shelter would also have to be far enough underground to avoid the freeze for as long as possible. But it’s a finite limit. This also has to include a filtration system of some kind to dispose of carbon dioxide build up, because you can’t just vent it out to the surface is that would be an entry point for the temperature to kill you.reply
Doubt it. [link removed]reply
This is true of all gymnosperms is it not? And bees evolved from carnivorous wasps to basically be vegans 😆reply
I think the signature that comes from that cloud is ethyl alcohol, so more like 400 trillion handles of everclear 😂reply
To your first point, I'd take it a step further. The very concept of "physical object' and "contact" are just convenient approximations at that level.reply
Living forever would be a mistake, nothing would ever change.reply
yeah, if we think oligarchs are a problem now...reply
And that the bipedal nature means we are higher from the ground and can see things further out than our quadruped brethren (if they can be called that)reply
Most birds are! Its pretty cool, isn't it?reply
Not most, all birds are dinosaursreply
Bee pollination is not compulsory 🙄 But it is pretty difficult to do before bees existreply
What I mean is, gingko is not wind pollinated BECAUSE they are older than bees. It's not like they were, hm, do bees exist? No? Ok, then we have to figure out something else.reply
I saw a video about people talking about it and its been recorded several different times on earth. Just things evolving into crabs, that all came from different things.reply
A lot of species eventually turn into a worm shape too! Lots of totally tubular guys.reply
"mean" may not be the best word. Not like there has to be "intent". implications may be the better word.reply
Also Polaris depending on who you ask!reply
That's a myth. Or at least a gross exaggeration. It's a phenomenon exclusive to Anomura, the closest living relatives of true crabs.reply
Not my problemreply
Seriously. I feel like it would make a lot more sense for there to be nothing. Glad there is something thoughreply
But if the bubble of destruction (that runs at speed of light) start far enough, just the universe expansion can save usreply
There’s a species of jellyfish that can theoretically live forever. The so called “eternal jellyfish” [link removed]top-level
The double slit experiment.top-level
bacteria aka "germs" killed people all the time until doctors started washing their hands and instrumentstop-level
And one of the folks who first figured this out was ridiculed and ostracized to the point of madness. [link removed]reply
What the hell, that's such a horrible why to go. And then Pasteur gets a whole process named after him. So it goes I guess.reply
Absolutely tragic. And unfortunately Semmelweisization rolls off the tongue even worse than pasteurization.reply
It's worse. He was involuntarily committed (because his opponents were all doctors and doctors could order that) and he was beaten to death in the sanatarium. While in solitary confinement. Reading between the lines, that means he was assassinated by orderlies in order to protect the doctors of the time.reply
I remember some big name historian stating that after the fall of Rome and Roman military hospitals disappearing, there wouldn't be another equivalent hospital until around the First World Warreply
That there have been 5 major extinction events when the majority of all life died. Current climate change has a lot of hallmarks of 4 of these 5 events and we are most likely in the midst of the sixth mass extinction event. The big difference is the previous ones happened over a long period of time and the current one is happening incredibly quickly.top-level
Meditation can physically increase the size of your brain and it just freaks me out . Just sitting and not thinking about anything can increase the frontal lobe size .top-level
Panthers, pumas, cougars, and mountain lions are all the same thingtop-level
My cats name and she does indeed freak me outreply
I had a kitty named Beans, his sister's name was Pork. That is what happens when you let a 10 years old name pets, lol.reply
The Everett interpretation of quantum mechanics has been a fun plaything of writers and pop culture media for a couple decades now, but almost no one, including physicists, deals with the real implications. ---- First, it's the only interpretation of quantum mechanics that doesn't involve adding a bunch of stuff to the Schrodinger equation in order to make what we see in our every day experience cohere with our best understanding of how the universe works at the quantum level. So there are really good reasons to take it seriously and much more seriously than most people tend to do. ---- Second, it entails that there are nearly identical copies of you and I and everything in our environment branching off at absolutely insane frequencies, constantly. And given the sheer number and the fact that these are all represented by differences at the lowest level of quantum wave interactions, it means that all the physically possible outcomes of a given situation end up happening with some probability. The ones we see all the time at the macro level, the ones that make up our common understanding of events, those are *by far* the most probable. However, whatever you can imagine that doesn't violate physics, like turning left instead of right on the path, or becoming president in the next election, or having every particle on the planet decay simultaneously, or... whatever.. ends up also happening with some (sometimes vastly, vastly, lower) probability. ---- Third, many people fail to understand that all the copies that arise from this moment on aren't happening to some other person. At least, not if you think you are currently more or less the same person you were ten minutes ago. If that is the case then you, the you of this moment, will not end up being *one* of those future people, there is no single branch that *you* will be on. (One could argue that you are not the same person as those who branched off from your common past self, but all those *future* selves are descendant from the current you in the exact same manner you are descendant from your past self. Each of those futures is a future that you, personally, the you of right now, will experience.) The vast majority of you will have a very mundane (from a physics point of view) future. Some of you will have wild, crazy luck. You'll win the biggest lottery in the country three times in a row. A far larger portion than those relatively lucky you will end up having 'bad luck', which in this case is just what it means when a complex system breaks down due to entropy. You'll get and die of cancer, or a brain aneurysm, or suddenly have some neurons misfire and turn the wheel of your car into traffic. Breakdowns are far more likely than, say, system restoration, simply because of entropy. ---- Thus, your future, all our futures, end up seeing insane outcomes. Crazy things you never would have predicted. Some subset of you will live so much longer than you thought possible, in a world where almost everything worked out for you and the people around you. Far more than that subset will live shorter than you expected, in a world where everything falls apart. There is no way to stop any of this from happening. Anything you do, any magical machine you create to jump branches or cull outcomes is, first and foremost, almost certainly physically impossible, but more importantly it is logically impossible. Every action is necessarily conditioned on the creation of more branches than you could ever interact with. The very *ability* to act is conditioned on the existence of worlds where you acted otherwise. Even all of your own psychological reactions to this state of affairs, in a existentialist sense, *will* happen. So you can't even really chose your own disposition to this universe. On the scale of what can and can't happen in the totality of all the worlds, all your possible psychological reactions are a very small segment of outcomes that are nearly identical in likelihood compared to even something as "mundane" as, say, all the atoms of gas in a room briefly piling up in one corner, which also happens far, far more often than all the particles on the planet decaying at once. You can ignore this reality, in fact you probably need to just to get through tomorrow. But ignoring it doesn't change its truth value, nor the implications for most of your foundational beliefs concerning things like morality, risk, value, or self.top-level
In the grand scheme of things our impact on this world and the universe will not matter in anyway at all. In relation to our world we are a blink of an eye, and to the universe beyond even detectable. We are self important to a fault and yet as insignificant as what ever exists that’s smaller than a quark.top-level
Yea but let’s see that quark enjoy a birria tacoreply
On the other hand, things "mattering" is a function of conscious beings assigning them subjective value, not of how long they exist or how many other objects in the universe they physically affect. So from that perspective, our brief lives here could be argued to matter the *most.* Outside of that, even the "grand scheme" itself doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, because as far as we know, the grand scheme has no mind with which to value anything.reply
And this, folks, is why gin existsreply
Greetings, fellow nihilist.reply
Nice marmot.reply
This is what always gets me. The earth will exist for billions more years no matter what impact we as humans have. But that doesn’t mean it will be inhabitable for humans or life as we know it. When we talk about climate change, etc, we should not focus on “saving the earth.” We should focus on “keeping the earth conducive to human life.”reply
We're finding galaxies that are too old for our universe.top-level
That broke brain.reply
Rock is hardreply
A whole lot of discoveries about the human body came from WWII and experiments done on those in occupied territories. A lot of it got hidden with Operation Paperclip and the hiding of Unit 731.top-level
That we don't know what's all in our oceans. So much unexplored surfaces we've never seen here on earth.top-level
The reason we have things like massive coal reserves is that trees existed for 30-60 million years before something evolved that could eat wood.top-level
Everything I’ve ever learned about deep sea animalstop-level
I remember when I was younger, learning about elements, nutrition, and the metals our body uses. What do you mean the same thing in these batteries is an anti-depressant. And these nails are the same thing that makes my blood red?top-level
#Plants quietly break our definition of intelligence: **Trees can “hear” water with their roots.** Scientists noticed tree roots aggressively invade sewer lines from surprisingly far away, but rarely target sealed water supply pipes. They tested the obvious explanations first: temperature differences, moisture leakage, nutrient gradients. None fully explained it. Then researchers played recordings of trickling water through buried speakers. The roots grew toward the sound. Best theory is that tiny root hairs can detect vibrations in soil somewhat like microscopic mechanosensors, allowing plants to follow the acoustic signature of flowing water underground. Which means a tree in your yard may literally be listening for plumbing. **With no nervous system, plants can be conditioned for a Pavlovian response.** There were experiments with pea plants (which naturally turn toward light) where researchers paired airflow from a fan with a light source. After conditioning, the plants would turn toward the fan alone, apparently anticipating the light that normally followed. Basically botanical Pavlov. The interpretation is still debated, but the results were weird enough to get people’s attention. **With no brain, plants can learn.** There’s a species of plant called the sensitive plant that curls its leaves shut when disturbed. Researchers repeatedly subjected it to a sudden harmless drop, basically a brief moment of freefall. At first the plant reacted every time by curling its leaves defensively. But after enough repetitions, it stopped reacting to the drop entirely. The obvious assumption was that the mechanism had simply fatigued. Except when researchers touched the plant or disturbed it in a different way, the leaves immediately curled shut again. The plant hadn’t “broken.” It had apparently learned that one specific stimulus was safe and stopped wasting energy responding to it. Some studies suggested it even retained that memory for weeks. **EDIT:** There are a couple of great Radiolab podcast episodes that go much deeper into this stuff. Check out the [Smarty Plants]([link removed] episode.top-level
I’ve lived where I am since I was 8 years old and I’m 47 now. My father had to replace the septic system once when he was alive because tree roots encroached 30 feet or so. Since I inherited I’ve had to replace the septic system because tree roots encroached almost 30 feet up the septic drain into the leech field. Also, being disabled gardening is one of the few things I can occasionally do (with conditions). I’ve noticed trees and plants predict the weather better than any meteorologist. It can be a clear blue sky with no rain predicted but trees and plants leaves are turned up, like they’re cupped to catch water. In the background you can hear a pigeon calling for rain. Then suddenly, out of nowhere, you get an afternoon shower … then poof, it’s gone, like it never happened. The trees and plants leaves are back to normal, and the pigeons are silent.reply
Scientists have invented a way to use liquid to breathe instead of air. [link removed]top-level
The Abyssreply
It still sounds crazy to me that hummingbirds first evolved in Eurasia, spread to the Americas, then went extinct everywhere else. Also how iguanas are in Fiji because they rafted there from North Americatop-level
That thing about how many variations are in a shuffled deck of cards. It’s very hard to wrap my head around.top-level
Have you seen this one? [link removed]reply
Synthetic Aperture Radar can [measure deformation in the earth's surface with millimetre accuracy]([link removed]top-level
You can use SAR from satellites in space to measure the disturbance on the surface of a small area of water and determine if there’s an object submerged therereply
La idea de la memoria celular en trasplantes me da escalofrĂ­os. Hay casos de gente que recibe un corazĂłn y hereda gustos o miedos del donante. CientĂ­ficamente aĂşn se estudia si el corazĂłn guarda "personalidad", pero es real y aterrador.top-level
Narwhals. Just in general that they exist loltop-level
Komodo dragons have metal in their teeth.top-level
Bacteria can transfer DNA to other bacteria. This is horrifying since it makes the prevention of antibiotic resistence extremely challenging. Antibiotic resistance freaks me out and is not getting nearly as much attention as it should.top-level
3 TREElion?reply
Recently, I read a study from a woman physicist who apparently proved via a study that conscience precedes matter. This is a quantum physical study, obviously I didn't understand the bottom of it and it's still very new, but I think it could be the biggest discovery of our century.top-level
Can you please share the link or name of the physicist...reply
The Monster, from group theory. Group Theory is a field of mathematics, which, unsurprisingly, studies objects called 'groups', which can be thought of as ways that objects can be symmetrical. (The actual definition is quite technical and somewhat unhelpful.) When it comes to groups of finite size, there's a certain way they can be broken down into smaller groups; it's a lot like prime factorization. The 'primes' in this case are called 'simple groups', which can't be broken down any further. After decades of study and thousands of pages of research, we have found all of the simple groups!! They come in 18 different infinite families. There are also 26... other simple groups, that aren't part of any of the infinite families. These are called the 'sporadic groups'. The Monster is the largest of these, and 19 of the other sporadic groups are related to it. The Monster has ~8*10\^53 elements in it, and describes the symmetries of an object that exists in 196,884 dimensions. We have no idea why it exists.top-level
We have likely found the remnants of Theia, the planet that crashed into Earth and formed the Moon. It’s been buried in our own mantle, possibly influencing tectonics to this very day.top-level
Expensive placebos work better (have more therapeutic value) than cheap placebos, they even work when patients know they are taking a placebo.top-level
The iron atoms in your blood where first created in the center of a star, eventually killing it. We are star stuff.top-level
Trees are literally dead inside, only the outermost layer is actually alive. If you peeled a ring around the tree at the base of it, the tree above that ring would be dead since it doesn't have any connection to its roots anymore. The more you know. (This is also what causes tree rings) Also plants don't *really* turn carbon dioxide into oxygen, they actually turn water into oxygen but they use carbon dioxide as part of the reaction (I believe it's potentially to power it but am unsure).top-level
Octopuses have three hearts, blue blood, and distributed brains-they're basically alien creatures living on Earth.top-level
It's looking more and more like electrons, the very first (or maybe second) fundamental particles whose existence was proven experimentally, really *aren't* fundamental particles after all. They can - after a fashion - be broken up into three separate and unique components: something with its quantum spin, something else with its quantum charge, and a third something with its orbital quantum.top-level
Are you familiar with the "sole electron" theory? It is part of World Line theory that there is only one molecule which travels forward and backward in time.reply
That’s theory is interesting but I never really understood what its purpose is. I may be wrong, but it seems like it doesn’t really attempt to solve any major problem we have in physics.reply
It was an attempt to explain why every electron was identical. Why couldn’t they vary in mass? Because there was only one! It doesn’t work out ultimately, it that was the motivation.reply
Nothing travels faster than light? It takes at least 1.28 seconds for light from Earth to reach the Moon. If you have a carbon rod from Earth to Moon and shove it forward one inch you've just beat the speed of light. Well that's what you'd assume, right? The reality is, moving a solid means you've created a wave that has to propagate through atoms who coexist in their own tiny gravity well. That's the speed of sound in a solid. For carbon it would take almost 9 hours for that wave to propagate to the Moon end. If you used diamond, perhaps 6 hours.top-level
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Every now and then, reddit produces the good stuff. This is that.top-level
The cosmological horizon. Space is expanding at such an accelerated rate that there will one day be distances where light will never reach us, even traveling at the speed of light for an eternity. For all intents and purposes it's like anything there might as well not exist to us at all. And because of expansion, everything in the universe is headed in that direction - outwards. One day there won't even be visible stars in the sky because everything's expanding away from each other. And one day there won't even be any evidence at all that the visible universe existed. Where we are in the universe will be all alone, for all time.top-level
As Douglas Adams said *I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.*reply
Superposition. Our perception of normal/real is wrong.top-level
I wouldn't say it's "wrong". It's more that there isn't something like a correct interpretation. Our whole perception of reality is only a filtered and interpolated interpretation of some electrical signals our brains recieve from the few different sensors we have Science, logic and philosophy only adds another layer to this, and we have absolutely no chance to know, how much else there is "If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration" Nicola Einstein Wattsreply
Weird to think how many things we don't even perceive because we can't and don't have the instruments to detect it.reply
In addition to the sheer amount of space in... space, the sheer size of things. The earth is miniscule compared to the sun and there's stars that make *our* star look tinytop-level
You can fit all the planets in our solar system in the distance between Earth and Moon. The vast emptiness of space always freaks me out a bit,top-level
The discovery of gravitational waves. They sounded like woo woo science, until they were discovered in 2015. This has opened up a whole new vision of science, not unlike the discovery of X-rays, microscopes, telescopes and radio waves.top-level
There are 30k times more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on Earth. Think about that next time someone doubts life could exist elsewhere in the universe.top-level
Wood is considered one of the rarest materials in the universe.top-level
This sounds like almost the opposite - You know how some games have a tick rate? Like a clock that everything depends on, so no matter how fast your CPU can run everything, no matter what it can do, the game just can't outpace that tick rate? That's the universe. It's one. The speed of light, that's the tick rate of the universe. It is impossible to exceed, despite everything in sci-fi. There will never be faster than light travel, because that would literally change causality itself, making time meaningless. For one thing.top-level
there are more possible iterations of a shuffled deck of cards than there are atoms in the observable universe. every time you shuffle a deck properly you are almost certainly creating an arrangement that has never existed before in human history and never will again.top-level
This including everyone on the planet doing it too, if I remember correctlyreply
This is right around one cell phones became popular. There was a study I think from MIT where they take a laser at a house plant and they can overhear what you’re saying inside a room. By the way this laser is in through a window from outside. There’s probably 2014. I was like well that’s the end of all privacy evertop-level
A doctor won the Ig Nobel Prize for weird medicine after writing a case study on how "digital rectal massage" (i.e finger up the butt) cured a case of intractable hiccups in a patient. How did that conversation go? "I'm going to try something. Just hear me out..."top-level
That if you point a really powerful telescope at a random spot in the sky, you’ll find millions of galaxies in the one image you taketop-level
What was the thing about the god particle a couple years. Higgs-boson.... sounded important. Never heard about it againtop-level
The Higgs bison was the linchpin of a lot of quantum theory. They made all this theory that depended on its existence but they never saw it. so... If it wasn't there the theory HAD to be wrong. So they did an experiment to find it, and they found it. So they didn't have to change much of the theory. (Except possibly how often it appears.)reply
Higgs Bison is the tastiest of all bison, lolreply
A very smart guy predicted and proved mathematically it should exist. It flipped everyone so they built big ass tunel, smashed some particles together and actually found the thing. I actually don’t know what what’s the main reason for building the collider, but that’s how they proved it.reply
It was originally called "the god damn" particle.reply
I think it gives particles mass. I could be wrong. I think photons have no mass, but these things called solar sails ca use the "impact" of photons to accelerate which doesn't make sense (could be remembering that wrong as well).reply
The speed of light is frightfully slow, and that is the final speed limit that can never be surpassed. Even on our own planet absolutely tiny on any sort of cosmic scale its too slow to support latency good enough to enjoy multi player video games with someone on the other side of the globe. Even with someone on the moon, the closest object to the earth, the delay in seconds is already too slow to make live conversation possible. On the closest planet mars, the delay of about 20 minutes means even text based communication is highly inconvenient. Continue jumping a few more times and communication essentially ceases in any meaningful sense; its a very isolating limit to consider.top-level
> its too slow to support latency good enough to enjoy multi player video games with someone on the other side of the globe This is not even remotely true. It’s not light that’s too slow, it’s the interfaces that send and receive light in the form of fiber optic connections. To send a one way message over fiber from New York to Sydney requires at least fifteen hops depending on ISP, which is a transfer from one network device to another. Those transfers and packet inspections take ~220ms to arrive at their final destination. The speed of light traveling uninterrupted that same distance takes only 50ms, which is considered in the optimal range for multiplayer gaming for players connected in the same region.reply
[all clownfish are born intersex and every female clownfish is transgender.]([link removed] (they’re all born as sexually immature males who have both sets of reproductive organs. one of them develops into a female for breeding purposes, she becomes the dominant female, and then when she dies, one of the male clownfish develops into a female so they can continue reproducing.)top-level
[Prototaxites]([link removed] a land-based lifeform that existed during the Silurian, could stand up to 25 feet tall. At first it was believed to be related to yew trees. Then it was thought to be a fungus. Now paleontologists have stated it is unlike *any* extant form of life, in its own kingdom, and the likes of it will never be seen again.top-level
C'est approximatif mais: Lors de la fÊcondation, les mitochondries sont toujours celles de la mère. On a donc tous les mêmes mitochondries... nous et tous les êtres mammifères? animaux? êtres vivants?top-level
The planet has lost more than half it's biomass since the 1970's. The rate of loss only ever increases, since we are in the middle of a mass extinction, likely the most complete the planet has ever experienced since this one we engineered. It's a planet, too, so 50 years in planetary time is like a flash of lightning in human time. We're struggling with connecting with the speed things are changing because we live at human speed, but for a planet to be changing visibly inside the lifetime of anything living on it to notice, that change is happening so fast it might as well be instantaneous. The amount of change the world has seen in terms of costs to life and climate stability is directly proportionate to how much fossil fuel humans have burned to realize their ideas. All the cars, roads, houses, planes, fashion - everything your great great grandparents wouldn't recognize, are directly causing the loss of life on earth because they cost that life to create. Basically, burning fossil fuels is committing to mass extinction. We are each of us choosing to keep making the problem worse, each day, rather than choosing not to be a part of it. It's not easy or maybe even possible to live without them and keep any of the things we built using them, but we lose all of this to a hostile planet if we refuse to try to live differently. We're not being presented with a question that has multiple answers. We either stop burning fossil fuels and devote our entire focus as a species to figuring out how to live without them, or our only legacy will be as the only conscious species that's ever existed that, when told we were killing ourselves, our children, and their future just by doing the same thing we did today, tomorrow, continued without hesitation to make the problem worse. Extinction isn't death. Extinction is the erasure of any signs a species ever existed and our normal, average way of live involves a behavior that causes extinction. It is worse than poaching because you can take an individual life without doing harm to the species. If we choose to keep living this way, we lose everything to the world we create not being able to support our need for food and water. This way of life is a planetary reset. There's no amount of electric vehicles that stops fossil fuels from being consumed. It's a situation that demands our full attention, but we're so unconcerned, we're more focused on the clothes rich people wear to fancy parties than take five minutes to fact check what im writing.top-level
Your bones are wettop-level
The treatment for C.difficile is a poop transplant. And it’s a very successful treatment.top-level
All the stars and galaxies that can be seen in the sky are so many light years away, that they may not even exist anymore.top-level
Time dilation is super freaky and neat Example: If you took a super giga accurate atomic clock, and put it on say, the space station for a few weeks, and compared it to another identical clock that was on earth, the one on the ship would be slightly behind (essentially time traveling) by a tiny fraction of a second.top-level
That a star I may be looking at has already exploded, but its light is still traveling our way.top-level
It doesn't necessarily freak me out, but it's pretty mind blowing: time dilation. I'll use arbitrary numbers and napkin math hypotheticals here but, if you could accelerate a ship constantly at 1g (about 9.89m/s/s), fly for 10 years, then turn around and head back to earth decelerating at 1g for 10 years, the ship experienced 20 years but earth experienced something closer to 100,000 years. So, given enough energy to maintain acceleration, it's feasible for earth to experience millions or billions of years within a human lifetime. You could travel out as a child and come back as an elder to a planet that might have evolved back to dinosaurs, has no sun, got annihilated by an asteroid, or whatever other things can happen in millions or billions of years.top-level
50% of people are dumber than averagetop-level
Time dilation.top-level
The math of string theory suggests there are many extra dimensions which we cannot perceive.top-level
You don’t actually touch anything because atoms repel each other so when you’re walking you are actually floating around.top-level
Prions - proteins that folds in in wrong ways and infect other proteins it comes in contact with. Cells can break down normally folded proteins, but not prions. The result is cell starvation and death. The human form is Creutzfeldt-Jacobs disease. If you get it there is nothing you can do about it, your brain turn to soup and you will slowly waste away... Absolute nightmare!top-level
Your immune system doesn't know that your eyes exist. If it did, it would destroy them.top-level
Wait reallyreply
Galaxy superclusters, Voids, and other strange structural anomalies of incomprehensible scale.top-level
Everything you experience is happening in the past. The sounds your hear and even the things you see have already happened. It just happens so quickly due to the speed of sound and speed of light being extremely fast that you can't really tell and it feels instant.top-level
This is why quantum observation manifests reality through synchronicities.reply
And your brain also needs time processing it all as well.reply
A night sky is a window to see the past. The stars you see at night sky, some of them ceased to exist even before earth was created. It’s just that you are receiving their light now.top-level
Horses can ran as fast as grizzly bears.top-level
Quantum entanglementtop-level
My feet are aging more slowly than my head.top-level
Some perturbations of the orbit of Uranus led to the discovery of Neptune.top-level
COVID infection essentially doubles the incidence of new onset dementia.top-level
When they found the immortal jellyfish which basically confirmed it is possible to “turn back time” at a genetic level and replace cells that have been mostly used uptop-level
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Swarms of tiny robots, a fraction of the width of a human hair (smaller than a spec of dust) can be made to march up people's noses (using electromagnetism) and made to heat up and catalyse chemical reactions to clear sinus infections. They're currently testing this just now.top-level
The Higgs-boson and the proof of its existence. The fact that we now know some sorta universe-wide field of particles is interacting with some but not all other particles, which explains why literally everything has mass (except for certain things like light/photons), doesn’t sound quite real to me, but it is. Maybe it doesn’t freak me out though. My current physics professor was one of the techs on the ATLAS project, actually, and is in the credits of the research paper on the discovery of Higgs-bosontop-level
That sharks are older than trees. Not just a little bit older, but like, 50 million years older. Sharks were already patrolling the oceans while the land was basically just moss and rocks.top-level
That telepathy, brain to brain communication, has been proven to be possible. It used a machine to record from one brain and transmit to another brain very basic information, like ones and zeros, with 80% accuracy. Edit: can't post link so google : Scientists Prove That Telepathic Communication Is Within Reach -- They said "Hello"top-level
This is bullshit. Telepathy is outright not possible. Unless you're talking about instruments being used to detect brainwave patterns or something. Which is not telepathy.reply
Amazing. I wish my super power was being able to some how record thoughts and notes without having to pick up a pen or type. Just have them plucked from my brain and remembered someplace.reply
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The double slit experiment. How observing light (in person, or with a device) as it passes through a slit changes how it behaves (either as a wave or particle). I now understand it a little better but when I first heard about it, it freaked me out.top-level
Consciousness is not generated locally by the brain. Edit. I had just woken up, what i meant was universe is not locally real. [link removed]top-level
That humanity will perish if we dont become an interstellar species.top-level
Neurons in your brain can literally fire in patterns that “predict” what you’re going to decide *before* you’re aware you’ve decided it.top-level
There is a 1 in 10 Undecillion chance that your atoms will align perfectly with the floor and you'll fall though. The chance of this actually happening is so low that it's basically impossible thoughtop-level
I still find fascinating that we are able to modify E. coli DNA to make human medicine. We grow it in huge bio chambers and it does what we want. It's just fascinating that we could use something harmful to us and make it really useful.top-level
That light travels the same speed in all reference frames. Standing on a train travelling half the speed of light, shining a flashlight down the tracks? The light moves away from you at the speed of light. Standing next to the tracks? The light ain't moving along the tracks at 1.5x the speed of light, it just moves along at the speed of light. The speed of light is absolute, no matter where you are or what you're doing.top-level
Humans are the only animals with true chinstop-level
how does that work.reply
It doesn't. What's actually true is "The James Webb Space Telescope has observed galaxies in deep space that are farther away and more fully developed than some previous models of the expansion and evolution of the universe after the big bang predicted." But that doesn't make for a salacious headline/one-liner, so people exaggerate the finding in reddit comments.reply
You are still minimizing what this means. Essentially the phrase “galaxies older than our universe” is close enough, but it can be misleading. It would be better stated as “galaxies that seem older than our model of the universe.” The galaxies that are being observed by the JWT formed closer to the Big Bang than we thought was possible. Which means we are missing some physics that made early galaxies form faster, or the Big Bang happened earlier than we thought. Or it could mean that the Big Bang theory is incorrect or incomplete. All of which are exciting discoveries.reply
>It would be better stated as “galaxies that seem older than our model of the universe.” That's what I fucking said.reply
It does not and could not mean that the Big Bang happened earlier than we thought. Most likely explanation is just that we're missing a lot of information in our models and simulations of the early universe and formation of galaxies. Which is not surprising since those models are constantly evolving and being updated with information like this. The point of the JWST was to find things like this so we could improve our theories and models. The statement "We found galaxies older that are too old for our universe" is completely sensationalizing and misrepresenting the findings. It equates "our universe" with "our current understanding of how galaxies formed in the early universe". They are not the same.reply
This one confuses me..reply
I’d imagine the sensation to be overwhelmingreply
i heard it feels like drowningreply
yup, I can confirm placebo works on me. I sometimes pretend to take pills and I definitely feel betterreply
Is it good or bad?reply
At the San Diego zoo, the tour guide said mountain lions have the most common names of any animal.reply
Apparently a lot of that data was garbage because they didn’t use the scientific method. At the cost of a lot of lives, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars taught us a lot about trauma and anatomy. Redefining things like tourniquet use.reply
Panther is ambiguous, it is related to most of big cats (leopards, jaguars and pumas)reply
You get my point, even 50ms is uncompetitive for games like CS2 considering the two way travel. The fact that there is already human noticeable latency on our own planet with the fastest possible speed is a shame.reply
This made me gigglereply
This is a myth. Some cells replace themselves very quickly, but others like heart muscle cells can last for decades and many neurons in the brain last a lifetime.reply
I don't read *that* slowly!reply
How slow do you read?reply
Teeth? Also, what does "person" mean? Are you only the sum of your cells?reply
Someone has a ship like thisreply
Someone has a broom like thisreply
The Broom of Theseusreply
Human of Theseus.reply
Hey! I don't read that slowly.reply
We are completely alone in a universe of infinite size; there is no life anywhere but on planet Earth. Either that, or we're not alone; there are other forms of life beyond our reach. Either way, I'm freaked out.top-level
There might be life and civilizations out there but they may be hiding. It’s the ”dark forest” analogy. If you were alone in a dark forest, would you want to broadcast your position into the darkness around you?reply
No, youre part of a larger universe. Once you realize that the iron in your blood, the calcium in your bones ONLY comes from an exploded star- you gain a higher awareness of your relationship with the universe.reply
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Vi cut off your Johnson!reply
Brain worms.top-level
Spider goats man. They are real.top-level
Surinam toads giving birth.top-level
Your face mites are matrilineal. [[link removed]top-level
Some antidepressants only work if you know you're taking themtop-level
Valence electrons and how we have basically figured out how to do magic with them.top-level
I like to maintain a pretty deterministic view of physics and that probabilistic mechanics are simply a practical way of describing systems too complex for us to predict with precision. However, the fact that experiments have actually shown evidence of the universe being not locally real really freaks me out. To put it simply, I want to believe that for as complex as the universe is, it all comes down to reasonable math that's always running. But it's claimed that inherit randomness actually does exist, and not only that, some quantum properties don't even exist until there's a reason for them to, like interacting with another particle. Like a videogame only running calculations relevant to gameplay. I just can't see the logic in that and it freaks me out.top-level
You're saying I can have a private jet?reply
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Same with the Platypus. How does a nocturnal, highly solitary, egg-laying, carnivorous, venomous mammal who lacks nipples, instead secreting milk from pores for their young..... even exist. Just look at the damn thing, It's both intriguing and horrifying.reply
Around 800000 years ago, the human breeding population was near 1280. Close to extinction.reply
A mass extinction is different than one species (even humans) going extinct. Mass extinction is when almost all (80+%) of every single species on the planet goes extinct.reply
The earth is cleansing itself.reply
I mean it makes sense. I know it's dismissed as puedo science but the cells hold DNA.reply
I remind myself of this in every meeting at work.reply
Or marsupials, that evolved on Laurasia, spread to Gondwana, and then were extint from Laurasia And Strepsirhinians, that evolved on Laurasia, spread to Africa, spread again to Madagascar, and then were extint outside Madagascarreply
Oh, that makes it even creepier lollreply
It gives me mass.reply
So I just googled this and it says it’s not proven science 🤔reply
This is when following Zen philosophy comes in handy.reply
Time dilationtop-level
This kinda motivates me to go out there and do stupid shit, responsiblly.reply
I am not the center of the universe.top-level
Maybe someone can help validate this, but when doing quantum computing there is a threshold where the number of qubits involved gets large enough that you end up using more quantum particles to run your calculations than there are in existance. This might be AI slop, but it sounded neat. They explained it away by saying that the quantum computers were 'borrowing' particles from other dimensions.top-level
A lot of theoretical physics, that time is relative and spacetime can be warped.top-level
And when you cross the event horizon of a black hole, space and time switch roles.reply
Also at the moment you reach the singularity, you have also reached the end of time. And the amount of "time" in the black-hole is relative to the mass of the black hole. So in the M87 black-hole, there is about a day of time. After that day of time relative to you, time would have ended outside of the black-hole. Also for most of that time that you spend traveling towards the singularity, you would feel nothing, and be perfectly fine (Taking only the gravity into account). You wouldn't notice anything until right near the end, when you would be ripped apart by the tidal forces.reply
This always breaks my mind. So trillions of years would have passed for everything outside of the black hole while only a day has passed for you? Or even longer than that? Or we don't have an answer?reply
In this specific black hole, for the person falling into it about a day will have passed before reaching the inner horizon and singularity. Outside the black-hole, in theory, an infinite amount of time will have passed. But this is still stuff we don't "know" for sure. Anything beyond the event horizon is going to be purely theoretical, especially as you get closer to the singularity. We have no idea what a singularity actually is, or if it even exists. So while in theory I can say an infinite amount of time will have passed, we could easily find out that that is not the case. In physics when you see "infinite" anywhere, it's usually a red flag that means "We don't actually know".reply
Also to add on to this, if you watched someone fall into a black hole, you would NEVER see them actually cross the horizon. Their image would slow down as it approaches the event horizon, until it is infinitely slowed down and frozen in time. The light from that moment would redshift and eventually not be visible anymore, but you would never see them actually cross.reply
Wait. What does this mean?reply
[link removed] The most relevant part is when they explore a model of a black hole.reply
Keep going.reply
[Read this.]([link removed]reply
What does that mean?reply
That some people can't create mental images and some can. (I don't think I can). [[link removed] We all live in what is essentially virtual reality and we assume that everyone experiences the world in the same way. It bakes my noodle. Colour-blindness is interesting especially when you think about colour... which doesn't actually exist. Colour is our perception of wavelengths of light. Objects absorb and reflect different wavelengths so what colour actually is anything ? Totally up to your brain.top-level
Microplastics are in our brains and they break down even further into nanoplastics which are small enough to go through cell walls.top-level
that mantis shrimp can see 16 types of color receptors compared to our 3 and we have absolutely no way of imagining what that looks liketop-level
Quantum entanglement still messes with my brain. Two particles affecting each other instantly across huge distances feels like something that should not be physically possibletop-level
Possible SA trigger and just general NSFL knowledge: Bedbugs reproduce via traumatic insemination. Males attack females with weaponized genitalia stabbing them anywhere and injecting sperm into the wound, which, due to bedbug physiology, still fertilize the eggs. If there was one creature I could cause to stop existing I think it would be bedbugs.top-level
Heart cells can spontaneously beat when grown in a dish under the right conditions. It's really weird to watch.top-level
that things don’t have colors. objects only absorb and reflect light in a way that basically tricks us into thinking things have colors. i think about this every day, for some weird reason.top-level
Trees evolved lignin (which lets them grow as tall as they do) about 30 million years before fungi evolved the enzyme that allowed them to break down lignin. What this means is that for 30 million years, dead trees just piled up, covered with other vegetation. This sequestered enough carbon to lower the global temperature significantly. A significant amount of Earth's coal comes from that 30-million year period, which we know (quite logically) as the Carboniferous period. [link removed]top-level
If you actually read that wiki you will see that it doesn’t support that hypothesis. That is an outdated hypothesis that has been thoroughly discredited [link removed]reply
Light from the sun takes 8 minutes to reach Earth. So when you see the sun in the sky, you’re actually seeing where it was 8 minutes earlier. Therefore all our sundials wrong! 🫤top-level
[The vastness of time]([link removed] Not that I don’t believe it, but just how long the universe will last. I feel simultaneously incredibly significant that we exist in this tiny fraction of a heartbeat where life is possible, and incredibly insignificant that the time period where stars are possible is so small.top-level
Platypuses are biofluorescenttop-level
Scientists have discovered a treatment to reverse some forms of blindness by using and injecting into the eye a gene from a fish.top-level
Quantum entanglement. Two particles can be linked in a way that measuring one instantly determines the state of the other, even across the universe. Einstein called it "spooky action at a distance" and refused to believe it — but it's been experimentally confirmed countless times. The fact that the universe doesn't seem to care about distance at that level still messes with my head.top-level
1. All things about the octopus. 2. The complex social systems of bees and ants. 3. I love them but, someone had to be so hungry they ate an oyster.top-level
> someone had to be so hungry they ate an oyster. I think that 80% of all our food comes from one of our remote ancestors saying "I dare you to eat that."reply
I constantly think about things like this. When did some poor bastard say. I will try to eat THAT.reply
That we are on the completely opposite side of the Milky Way than we thought we were and was always shown in all those, “We Are Here —>” picstop-level
There was a period of time where no plants or animals existed on earth, but 20+ft tall spires called Prototaxites dominated the earth. They were not plants, animals, or fungi. They were their own distinct lineage of life that no longer exists in any way, shape, or formtop-level
Alzheimer's might be caused by tooth decay. IIRC the mechanism is unclear but there's a strong statistical correlation between people with bad teeth and alzheimer's disease. And it's not the reverse direction like forgetting to brush your teeth, it's the tooth decay leading to alzheimers. One theory was that some bacteria can use the dental nerves to sneak into the brain past the normal barriers that should prevent infections reaching the brain, but I don't know how true that part is.top-level
Weasel timetop-level
What does this mean lolreply
Spring 2016 a weasel shut down operations at the Large Hadron Collider and people think it altered reality. The full term is "Weasel Timeline Theory".reply
You know....weasel time, duhreply
The fact that there is a possibility that you could resonate just right to phase through anything. imagine just walking down the road and you just happen to bump into someone but you phase though them. or your walking and you just fall into the floor instantly suffocating. Horrifictop-level
Essentially like the Backroomsreply
Light has mass.top-level
....and we don't discuss how important this is enough in science education, IMOreply
In a way, you have never touched anything or anyone in your life. Except when egg and sperm join and their molecules properly join together to form new DNA. In a way we can only truly touch other human in the moment we create new human. Kinda poetic.reply
If you're looking at it that way, you have to question what you mean by "real" physical contact, and then find that it doesn't exist.reply
There was a study where they put rats in satin underwear, it was discovered that the static electricy reduced their fertility.top-level
The veratasium video added a new one for me, disappearing polymorphs. Its like prions but for simpler chemistry. Its mostly happened in pharma, ritonavir became unusable because a new polymorphy appeared and if it came into contact with the old it caused it to transform. It spread around and made the drug unusable in solid form globally. It can happen with hormones, so imagine just a mystery polymoprh showing up and killing everybody. Mirror life is a similar thingtop-level
That thing about there being a small but non negligible chance that matter could degenerate spontaneously, and the effect would propagate across the universe at the speed of light. Yeah, that.top-level
Bananas are slightly radioactivetop-level
Quantum entanglement. Two particles can be connected in a way that instantly affects each other no matter how far apart they are - even across the entire universe. Einstein called it "spooky action at a distance" and honestly? It still freaks out physicists today because it defies everything we thought we knew about reality.top-level
That Zombie Fungus that uses Ants to propagatetop-level
Scientists discovered that an advanced species of mammals called “humans” willingly trap themselves in 30-year debt contracts just to secure a small box to sleep in.top-level
Time dilation. The faster you move through space, including walking, the slower time passes for you relative to outside observers.top-level
The fact that as velocity increases it takes more and more energy to get the same increase. For example, "At 10 percent of the speed of light, the increase in mass is about 5 per mille, at 50 percent of the speed of light, the mass increases by about 15.5 percent, and at 99 percent of the speed of light, the mass increases more than sevenfold". This means that the energy needed to increase an objects velocity rises exponentially. Using a 1 kg mass the math says you need 1.16×10^17 Joules to reach 90% C but 6.33×10^19 Joules to go from .9C .999999C, 379 times more energy. [Source on relativistic mass]([link removed]top-level
Watched a veritasium video that basically concluded with "so we actually have no idea how this works, but the leading theory is that the multiverse is real."top-level
Eledon ! It’s cured a small group of diabetics using their own islet cells!top-level
The Great Attractor. Something we can't see out in space is pulling our galaxy and nearby galaxies EXTREMELY fast but there is too much dust in the way to see it. Supposedly, it's another cluster of galaxies, but I always wonder if it's possible that it's an ultra massive black hole that's about to suck us in.top-level
Sharks are older than trees. Shark ancestors existed over 400 million years ago; trees appeared roughly 350 million years ago. So Earth had sharks cruising around before forests existed. Scary 😭top-level
There's an Australian plant that grows glass hypodermic needles on its leaves that inject neurotoxin. And that inflicts the most agonizing pain possible. And it's called the fucking gimpy gimpy plant.top-level
Time changes with altitude. Time passes faster at higher altitudes because gravity is weaker farther from Earth, a phenomenon known as gravitational time dilation. According to Einstein’s theory of relativity, stronger gravity slows time; therefore, a clock on a mountain ticks faster than one at sea leveltop-level
How comically hostile the universe is to life outside of Earth. The constant cosmic radiation guarantees cancer, being in outer space makes your skeleton deteriorate horrifyingly fast, the atmospheric pressure of other worlds either turns your body into an overinflated balloon or a crushed milk can. Weather on other planets can result in lead rain, glass rain, or hurricanes with raging winds that break the sound barrier that last for yearstop-level
Male seahorses brood embryos in a pouchtop-level
Biomas of all the ants in the world is bigger than wild mammals and birds.top-level
Quantum entanglement.top-level
Strange quarkstop-level
The Big Bang Theory. What banged?top-level
Eventually going to create another big bang?top-level
This "moving sands" - I'm not sure if they even exist, but it was so scary hearing about them in primary schooltop-level
It wasn’t regularly excepted that babies felt pain before the 1980s so things like circumcision and other surgeries were mostly performed without anesthetic.top-level
Transparent Aluminum a la Startrek is real... are we missing a couple whales?top-level
ALON Aluminium oxynitride Been trying to get my hands on some for years. Just to prove to my friends it is real.reply
Che la percentuale di materia è pari a quella dell' antimateria +1. Senza quell' uno non ci sarebbe nulla nell' universotop-level
3 polarizers. Using 1 filter allows light in the direction of the filter to go through. If 2 filters are aligned, same effect as 1. If they are at 90 degrees from each other, no light goes through. Very logical. That's how polarizing filters work. If you add a 3rd filter that is angled between those 2 filters that are at 90 degrees from each other... the amount of light changes depending on whether you put the 3rd filter between them, or on either side.top-level
Light explores every possible trajectory simultaneously as it's emitted. It only reveals it's path once you observe it. I remember the duel slit experiment from school, it was super boring at the time. But now it just amazes me that your everyday light is performing some time travelling multi dimensional magic (that I clearly don't understand).top-level
Quantum entanglement and non-locality, what Einstein called "spooky action at a distance".top-level
Water to power cars. Hydrogen fuel cells.top-level
One of the craziest things to me is how black holes distort time. Everything falls into these things so hard, like a whirlpool, that not only can light not escape it, but even TIME gets pulled into it. Like you could pass the event horizon of an ultra massive black hole, and to you, time is passing normally, and you could be there for 5 minutes, but the universe outside of it has already aged like a million years, and you can't get that time back. It's gone. Of course, you can't escape anyway, but that's beside the point. To someone outside the event horizon, they would just see you slowly kind of freeze in time. Meanwhile, the closer you get to the singularity, it's like you are being pulled towards the end of time. Basically, by the time you get to that singularity, the whole universe would have died. You might not see it because the light won't reach your eyes (and you'd be spaghettified anyway), but it would have still occurred. It's crazy because it sounds philosophical and esoteric, but these are objects that really are just physically there. They're just things that are so heavy that they can't support their own weight, they collapse in on themselves, and tear a hole in spacetime and just eat up everything that comes close to it, and then entire everythings just swirl around it and we call these things galaxies. It's crazy when you stop thinking of a supermassive black hole and a "galaxy" as two separate things but instead look at it as one entity. It's just crazy that all these monstrously insane things exist, but the forces behind their creation are the same forces that spawned us.top-level
Vacuum decay.top-level
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The fact that your brain can completely invent sounds that are not there. People with hearing loss sometimes start hearing full songs, conversations, or radio broadcasts because the brain tries to “fill in” missing input. Somehow that is a real medical condition and not sci fi 😭top-level
The fact that trees in a forest communicate and share nutrients with each other through underground fungal networks. They can actually support struggling or dying trees nearby. It completely changes how you think about walking through a forest.top-level
Double Slit experiment.top-level
You cannot hear T-rex footsteps until it's real close to you because of it's padded feets!top-level
The creation of Dry Falls in Washington statetop-level
A Jack-in-the-Box antenna topper will survive when placed on a car bomb, even the sticker eyes will stay ontop-level
Waves of gravity. Its amazing we can get information about anything by the minute divergence of light at the end of a tunnel.top-level
...damn, lot of people in this thread who freak out at things.top-level
The universe is so vast that we’ll probably never leave our solar system.top-level
Dung beetles navigate using the starstop-level
There have been 5 mass extinctions in the history of multicellular life. In each, 75% or more of the species on earth died out. We...might be causing a 6th mass extinction right now.top-level
Quantum entanglement or, as Albert Einstein much more eloquently put it, "Spooky action at a distance."top-level
Particles can be two places at once in sync no matter how far apart they are, and they only act normal when conventionally observed. Spooky action. They mirror eachother. The quantum realm is ODDtop-level
Adult teeth being inside babies heads. Looking at an xray of a baby’s skull is nightmare fueltop-level
Compressed biscuit tins. 100% real science, still freaks me out every timetop-level
Space in general. Nothing like a good bit of existential dread to go with scientific facts/discoveries.top-level
80% of all species are on land.top-level
Disappearing polymorphs - molecules that crystallize, can just start crystalline a different "more efficient" way and then any attempt to make the old crystal can't be done anymore as the new crystal spreads and "seeds" all attempts to make the old crystal. Progesterone is one multimorph. Imagine you wake up one day and progesterone has lost its ability to be absorbed because it changed structure and bam, no more babies.top-level
More than half of the cells in your body aren't part of your body, but "foreign biota."top-level
Well, idk if it's a discovery, but wasting disease being untreatable.top-level
Creatures live in your eyelash rootstop-level
Me sitting here reading about things that Doge eliminated important research for.top-level
That there is a lizard that can shoot blood out of its eyestop-level
you are brainreply
Right, but "your conscious awareness of your unconscious decision processes has a lag time of about a third of a second" is much less suitable for a listicle title than "the big reason you don't have free will -- discovered by a dad!"reply
Self is so an illusion of sorts. Epilepsy - brain severed studies where the left and right sides literally couldn't communicate normally anymore. Researchers would flash a word like “KEY” only to the right hemisphere. The patient would then be asked what they saw and say: “Nothing.” But then their left hand, which is controlled by the right hemisphere, could correctly reach out and pick up a key. So one side of the brain clearly knew the answer, but the speaking side had absolutely no awareness of it. The implication is that human consciousness may not be one single unified thing; “self” may partly be a story your brain constructs. In other words, your inner narrator is less of a CEO and more of a press secretary. So whatever we tell ourselves is free will isn't really us (or at least just us).reply
I'm well aware of these studies, I'm a cognitive psychologist. I'm just not convinced they have any bearing on the question of whether we have free will.reply
The idea that this means free will is an illusion has always irritated me. At best, it means free will is not exactly what we thought it was.reply
Same for me. I guess you would have to find a definition what free will is before you could figure out if it's an illusion or not. If you would write a definition of free will, I bet you would write down very similar things to what happens in our brains when we react to something or make plans or whatever I guess "free will" is just a term to describe the part of our brain that is working hard to give rational sense to the things we are doingreply
Serious question, what do you mean by free will?reply
He probably means “libertarian free will” meaning that people are capable of making choices uninfluenced by prior causes. This is the classic determinism debate, it’s a good one.reply
No, I just have subconscious free will. Got any other stumpers?reply
If we wouldn't have free will, marketing wouldn't exist to corrupt it.reply
I’ve been telling my adult children for decades that when science catches up we will find that everything we have done in our individual lives was because of genetic predisposition and instinct.reply
sharks existed before trees and honestly my brain refuses to process that properlytop-level
Time dilation Why is time slower because I'm faster? I hate it. I accept it's true. Still hate it.top-level
All the quantum stuff basically. It is beyond mind blowing.top-level
The fact your brain can create completely false memories and you’ll still believe themtop-level
Not a scientific discovery but an invention - the chainsaw was invented to assist in childbirth. No lie. Google it. 😬🫥top-level
uranium is pretty freaky….top-level
I can’t remember which mountain range, maybe South America, but thousands of years ago parts of the mountain broke off and became a bunch of different pillars. Because they are all at different altitudes, the animals that lived on them evolved differently from one another. One frog from Pillar 1 is the same species of frog from Pillar 5, but they look completely different. I’m probably not explaining this well. Apologiestop-level
Quantum physics stuff still feels like sci-fi to metop-level
The Observer Effect in quatam mechanics. At the quantum level, particles like electrons or photons can act as both particles and waves. When not being watched, a particle exists in a wave state, or "superposition", neanin it is in multiple states or locations at once. When being observed or measured, a particle's wave function collapses, and the particle will behave like a solid object. It sounds borderline magical, but basically, there is no way for us to observe a particle without interacting with it. Really, it's just the fact that in a subatomic level, we've touched the particle, even if it's just with a photon of light. The particle, being so small, is knocked out of the wave state by that.top-level
There is a parasitic fungus that turns ants into zombiestop-level
That the universe started from nothing, which Einstein said means No Time, Space, or Matter. Einstein further added, there is nothing north of the North pole, so hence there is nothing before the start of our universe, we all just came from, nothing. The evidence for the big bang was so overwhelming it replaced the steady state theory which reined for many years. We all came here, from nothing... wild, or maybe a creator made us.top-level
There is no evidence that “everything came from nothing” and no scientist would claim such a thing. As far back as we can trace the history of the universe, all we can determine is that everything was much denser and hotter about 13.8 billion years ago. Nobody knows what happened before that, if anything. Maybe it all came from nothing, maybe there are other explanations, but it’s all speculation and science doesn’t speculate.reply
Relativity and time dilation.top-level
How impossible it will be for all life on this planet to exist once the sun reaches its end-of-life stages and begins swallowing Mercury, Venus, then us... How impossible it will be for our species to exist off this planet and how unlikely we will exist long enough to establish colonies anywhere else. Radiation and astrological bombardment (comets, meteors) are just the tip of the ice berg. Finding a habitable zone planet we could potentially colonize will take 500 more years, at minimum, to launch.top-level
How many million years until the sun gets to that stage? Oh billions? Hmmm.. not worth the existential worryreply
Well not for you, but future humans.. if we make it that long.reply
How impossible human life is. Drakes equation is just a baby step listing a few of the complete list of requirements for the goldilocks effect.reply
Air molecules that we are breathing, have molecules the Napoleon breathed.top-level
there is thousands of milky way out theretop-level
the sperm cell of the fruit fly is longer than he fly itself.top-level
Your body knows its going to push a button before you decide to do it. Peoples brain activity has been monitored when they've told to wait and then push a button, and it showed a change about half a second before they thought they decided to push the button. It even worked when people tried to "trick" it by thinking about pushing the button but not.top-level
the universe is expandingtop-level
Sloths can swim, and they are very fast in the water. Make it make sense.top-level
There being more Water then Land on Earth.top-level
There is a giant ring of galaxies that is 4 billion lightyears across. Even though it's 9 billion light years away, it would appear 15x larger than the moon in our sky if it was brighter. Superstructures like this defy our current understanding of our cosmos. We basically have no fucking idea how they're formed.top-level
New style of plastic was created to be biodegradable. This plastic is made from salmon cum. Apparently lots of things in the world are because it's a fantastic binder...I'm just really curious on how it startedtop-level
Poisonous Japanese Fungistop-level
That sharks 🦈 are older than trees 🌲top-level
The Boltsman Brain Paradox 🧠🤯 The universe loves mess and high entropy. To get a whole planet with people and history the universe has to be incredibly organized for a very long time which is super rare. On the flip side random particles in a vacuum are constantly bumping into each other. If you wait long enough those particles will eventually smash together into the shape of a human brain. Because a single brain is way smaller and less complex than an entire galaxy the math says the universe is much more likely to accidentally pop a lone brain into existence than it is to build a whole world. The Mind Trip This brain would exist for a split second in the void. It would have fake memories of a childhood and a job and this specific screen. Then it would dissolve back into nothing. According to the laws of probability it is statistically more certain that you are that floating brain right now than a person with a real past. You are just a temporary fluctuation in the chaostop-level
Every atom in your body is older than the planet. The carbon in your bones, the iron in your blood, the calcium in your teeth all forged inside ancient stars that exploded billions of years before Earth even existed. You are, very literally, recycled supernova debris that learned how to think about itself.top-level
The concept of Toxoplasma gondii. It’s a parasite that can only reproduce inside a cat's gut. To get there, it infects mice, chemically rewires their brains to completely remove their fear of cats, and actually makes the mice attracted to the smell of cat urine so they get eaten. What gives me goosebumps is that it’s estimated that up to one-third of the human population is infected with it, and while it's mostly latent, some studies link it to subtle changes in human behavior and risk-taking. We are literally carrying around a brain-altering parasite just because we love cats.top-level
mirror lifetop-level
hantavirus between humans suddenlytop-level
There's a plastic spoons worth of microplastics in our braintop-level
testtop-level
The Epley Maneuver for vertigo.top-level
Growing meattop-level
The guy who discovered CFCs and created leaded petrol was the same guytop-level
If you unravelled all the DNA in your body and lined it up, it would stretch from Earth to Pluto and back 68 times. All of that is packed inside cells you can’t even see with the naked eye. How does that even make sense? 🤯top-level
Frank Ocean. Dropped ‘Blonde’, did a few shows, then disappeared like a ghost . Were still waitingtop-level
Yeah you know citric acid the stuff in most candy and cleaning products ? Yeah most of that comes from black mouldtop-level
"Quantum entanglement still sounds made up to me. The more I learn about it, the weirder it gets."top-level
Still screws me up that birds are dinosaurs.top-level
Only works in species where playing a guitar does not provide a mating selective advantagereply
I believe those species become fiddler crabsreply
It's far from the only body plan animals keep evolving into [link removed]reply
sadly link Goes Nowhere Does Nothingreply
I remember first learning about false vacuum decay. Absolutely didn't help my anxiety disorder...top-level
Can you help me understand something, i don't have anxiety disorders so i have to ask. Things like false vacuum decay and sudden gamma ray bursts are instant extinction level events. If they happen someday we will all be alive one moment, and the very next moment we will cease to exist / be dead. There is nothing we can do about it, we will not see it coming. I just don't understand how or why one would have fears about that. Why would you stress about something that you 100% don't know if it will even happen and 100% can't do anything about it. Is that the definition of an anxiety disorder? I don't mean this condecendingly, hope it doesn't come across this way.reply
No, it doesn't come across as condescending. Anxiety disorders are a disfunction in how the brain responds to potential threats, and manifests as a inappropriately strong reaction. Phobias are a common form of anxiety disorder, like screaming and running away when someone sees a small spider crawling on the floor; I logically know it's something I can't change and should accept, but it's not the way my brain reacts.reply
Huh i see. I too do have phobias, like, i'm irrationally scared/disgusted by spiders and the deep sea. But I feel, those are fears that have a grounding in reality. Any second i could turn my head and see a huge spider. Its not dangerous, but it could happen any second and i would have to deal with that. Or alternatively i would need to take precautions to avoid that situation. Deep sea as well, there could arise a situation where i would be stranded in the open ocean, an absolute nightmare scenario for me. That could happen and i have to deal with that. AS a precaution I'm just not going cross ocean on ships. But specifically those erradication events, yes, they could happen, but if they happen, i would not need to worry about dealing with that situation because before I'd realize whats going on, i'd be already gone. I can see a disorder springing to life though. You know its kind of pointless to worry about, but you can't help but worry about it. Sucks, hope you live more carefree one day. I have (had) the tendency to always assume the worst outcome when something was not quite going the way i wanted. Like... someone did not call at the time we made out for a call? Something must've happened. Maybe they fell down the stairs? Its already 10 minutes past the time, i should call their neighbour! Oh, they forgot the time and went for a wee before calling.... ok... Would that also count towards anxiety disorder?reply
Yes, compulsive thoughts of impending disaster are a common symptom in anxiety disorders.reply
Thanks, this was very interesting 😄reply
Meningitis-causing bacteria are ‘obligate commensals’ of the human nasopharynx, they ONLY live there and don’t survive elsewhere. They will live happily alongside everything else and cause no issues to the \~10% who carry it. When the person gets sick with something else that causes an immune response, their temperature raises and white blood cells come searching for things that aren’t human cells to kill them. This bacteria, when the temperature raises, is able to produce a surface protein that presents as human, so it doesn’t get killed. It is then able to proliferate with no competition - and in some cases, crosses the blood-brain barrier to cause septicaemia and/or meningitis. [source]([link removed]top-level
Lithium is a core, effective mental health medication that is given to millions of patients worldwide. We have no idea how it works.top-level
Matter, as most people understand it, does not actually exist. Everything is literally just energy. For example: atomic structure. Around the 5th or 6th year of schooling, people learn about protons and electrons. Most often, we're introduced to the Bohr model, which almost looks like a solar system. It's very simple so it's easy to remember. However, a few years later, we're taught that electrons aren't actually little balls orbiting the nucleus in circles. It's movement is so erratic that the circular orbit is actually more of a cloud and those clouds have different shapes depending on how close it is to the nucleus. And then, at the end of public schooling or in the first few years of university level physics, you find out electrons are not even balls at all. They're these half-particle half-wave things and that "cloud" is actually the result of a probability function of where you'll detect the electron when you try to ping it. Because by this time, you've already been introduced to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle and been taught that all matter is invisible until you literally shine a light. Eventually, as you get into advanced physics, you find out that "matter" has never existed at all. What we model as particles and our hands-on experience of "matter" is simply an artifact (i.e. side effect) of our detection mechanisms. What we think of as particles is essentially bound energy or energy that happens to have the same characteristics as what we're trying to study. Solid particles don't exist. Also, the fact is that we don't know how to tag anything at the atomic level with unique identifiers, like how we tag fish with unique beacons or add dyes to water to trace the flow. The very act of adding a marker to a molecule, let alone an atom or smaller, fundamentally destroys or changes our experiments. So whenever we record a specific atom or subatomic particle, we are uncertain if it's the same one we started with or a different one that has identical characteristics. That is why quantum mechanics is built on mathematical probability.top-level
That is wild!reply
How squirrels remember where they buried their nuts when the ground is covered with snow (*keep the comments to yourself*); they use trees (which don't get buried) as landmarks. Naturalists relocated (dummy) trees to test this and found that the squirrel digging location errors tracked the relocation geometry startlingly well.top-level
The fact that we are each made of 40-50% other creaturestop-level
Human genome project. We know with hard evidence that races are pseudoscience and we're all mutts We've banged and raped and forced ourselves on each other for eons. The visual differences in us are at best a different color paintjob on the same floorplan. And that project is like 20+ years old at this point For hardcore anthropologists this wasn't that surprising. What freaks me out is we haven't updated any education structure to remove race as a concept. Which then is a breeding ground for racism to exist. We've willfully kept it around as a remnant of hatred, invented by our forefathers, to continue dividing and attacking ourselves. >Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic "racial" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within "racial" groups than between them. In neighboring populations there is much overlapping of genes and their phenotypic (physical) expressions. Throughout history whenever different groups have come into contact, they have interbred. The continued sharing of genetic materials has maintained all of humankind as a single species. [link removed]top-level
Mind controlling fungustop-level
Oh it's worse, it's more like a body-controlling fungus! It weaves its hyphae into the muscles of the hostreply
The double split experiment of 1801: To this day, no one understands why observation/measurement changes the result.top-level
Lots of space time stuff feels like it has to be wrong to me. Time dilation. Red shift. Like one day they're going to have to make new discoveries in dark energy or SOMETHING that overturn those because they seem impossible to be true. First, how can it be different times at different places in the universe? How can one place be in the future relative to another? How does time slow when speeding up? Does this mean light is devoid of time? And surely there has to be a big crunch because if the universe never stops accelerating its expansion then just being in this phase of the universe is so unlikely early that it's like winning a billion lotteries in a row. I guess those things aren't technically '100% real' but it's the working models we have right now and they make my f'n head spin. I get itchy when things don't seem intuitive.top-level
That in quantum physics the effect can happen before the cause. It locked-up my mind when I first heard it described.top-level
Due to the extremely specific, and rare, conditions needed for a planet to produce life of any sort, including plants and trees, that wood is one of the rarest substances in the universe.top-level
And on that note: fire is also a very rare phenomenon in the universe.reply
Not sure if it counts as a "discovery", but it's always boggled my mind. If you took a census of all the birds on Earth, over 50% of those individual creatures will be a run-of-the-mill chicken. In other words, that single species we've domesticated for our own use outnumber the sum total of every other type of bird. Going by weight that percentage is even larger (I've seen 70-75%) since most types of birds are small. You need about 20 robins to weigh the same as one full-grown chicken.top-level
Octopi have quad helix DNA they are truly alien and intelligent. 🐙top-level
Brain worms found in most people in an autopsytop-level
Leucochloridium paradoxum is a parasitic flatworm that turns snails into zombies that basically start advertising to predators that they want to be eaten. The parasite causes them to develop colorful flashing, television-like movements on their eye stalks to get birds to notice and eat them. The parasite uses the bird as the final host in which it can reproduce. The "paradoxum" of its name refers to how it will completely disengage its victim's survival mechanisms in order for it to have a shot at reproducing. Seeing an infected snail is so fucking unsettling, it's like a hallucination.top-level
If you travel with speed of light, the travel between any two points is instant for you. The matter/substance we are touch/feel is kind of empty. What you feel when you touch something because of interactions of electronic fields. And if you look on atoms by volume, you would see that it's mostly empty.top-level
There are a number of start-ups who are trying to generate food from air. The technology dates from the 60s and the general idea is that co2 and electricity and a health microbe starter are used to generate edible matter. While I believe it does generate small quantities of edible matter it believe it will be some time before it is viable. It freaks me out because it sounds sci-fi but they you read a bit and go, ok it might be feasible and then it still seems magical. [[link removed]top-level
You may be surprised to learn this then. Plants get 95% of their dry mass from the air, by absorbing CO2 then using it. That's where all the carbon in carbon-based life comes from. And herbivores get most of their mass from eating plants. And carnivores get most of their mass from eating herbivores. So basically.... that's just normal. The start-ups are just trying to mimic plants. Also - when you lose weight, through exercise and diet, you lose most of it through the air, as co2.reply
Cutting edge of quantum physics and the theories that arises from ittop-level
The Higgs problem. Very simplified. There's a number attached to the Higgs field, that permeates all of creation, everywhere. Certain value we safe monke, certain value, the field can and will eventually suddenly decay at the speed of light. When it does, nothing as we know it is left in that zone, since science as we know it, laws of nature, stop applying. And it won't stop expanding. The estimated value is just low enough that we are probably okay, but we are unsure if it's the true minimum. If it's not, odds are uh-oh. Funny fact , it could have allready happened. But since it would be traveling at the speed of light towards us we would have no warning. [link removed] Great video from a great science channel on ittop-level
Time is relative. Growing up, I believed it to be one of the only consistencies in the universe. Oh, how wrong I was.top-level
Anything having to do with quantum mechanics, and how like, gravity doesn't actually exist at the quantum scale.top-level
Schizophrenia is the most common illness out there, affecting roughly 1% of the population. There are no known genes that cause it and the strongest correlation we have thus far is DiGeorge syndrome (deletion of 22q11.2)top-level
Have not read a study or anything but I read somewhere that there has never been a blind person who had schizophrenia.reply
According to another comment, there have been a few documented cases of blind people with schizophrenia, but there are significantly fewer in numberreply
Prions. Infectious misfolded proteins—no DNA, just a bad shape—that spread by making other proteins misfold. They shrug off normal sterilization and are basically 100% fatal. Sounds like sci‑fi, but it’s real.top-level
There is a dog with no bones who lives on the genitals of other dogs. A few thousand years ago a dog in the Americas got cancer, and somehow these cancer cells were able to jump to another dog. Because dogs are fairly inbred it was able to evade the second dog’s immune system and begin growing again, and then was able to infect a third dog and so on. Over time it has continued to spread over and over again, and these cells have evolved to be more successful at it. Dropping huge portions of the genome it no longer needs, developing better ways to evade immune cells, becoming more infectious etc. By any reasonable species definition it can be considered a new species of canine since it is reproductively isolated from other lineages. We have also found similar transmissible tumors in Tasmanian devils and Syrian hamsters, but thankfully none have ever been found in humans.top-level
**Your heart cells beat on their own** take a cardiac cell out of your body, put it in a dish, and it keeps rhythmically contracting. It doesn't need a brain signal. It just... knows.top-level
Carerpillars form memories that not only last through pupation into a butterfly, but can be passed on to their offspring for at least three generations.top-level
Gravity isn't a field or a particle but rather simply the geometry of spacetime itself. I swear physics is literally black magictop-level
Pretty much everything about quantum mechanicstop-level
A lot of our major 'constants' in physics, change over timetop-level
Can you expand on this im curious?reply
mind control by cat and dogtop-level
Toxoplasmosis?reply
Is THAT what’s going on with RFKJr? His cat is an evil overlord who wants to watch the world burn and is controlling RFKs mind?reply
Gee, Brain, what are we going to do tonight?reply
Same thing we do every night, Pinky... now get on your rubber pants.reply
Gravitytop-level
Chiral life (or mirror life). The idea that we already have the tech to create this, plus the potential damage this can cause makes me genuinely anxious.top-level
The fact that atoms are mostly empty spacetop-level
Time progresses differently in Earth's orbit. When I worked as a software developer for the department of defense I saw the calculations for special/general relativity used [for messaging / getting messages from]([link removed] satellitestop-level
Anything about quantum physics doesn't make sense, but the math checks out and experiments confirm it.top-level
Human genometop-level
Why is the speed of gravity the same as the speed of light? Coincidence? Maybe gravity and light are standing still and everything else is moving at the speed of light/gravity?top-level
I vaguely remember that an emp can travel at the speed of light too. And there's a few things that can travel faster.reply
Talk like this made 12 really smart scientists headlines recentlyreply
Some animals can be immortal.top-level
Ai image gentop-level
Time dilation sounds fake.top-level
Every time you shuffle a deck of cards, it is nearly certain that that particular sequence of cards has never existed before, and will never exist again. There are actually more possible arrangements in a standard 52 card deck than there are stars in the known universe.top-level
You can create new teeth from shark urinetop-level
Prions — literally infectious misfolded proteins with no DNA/RNA that resist sterilization and can slowly swiss-cheese your brain years after exposure.top-level
That the universe isn't locally real and knows when it's being observed.top-level
That there might be life in the clouds of venustop-level
They cloned a sheep in 1996 yet still can't cure cancer.top-level
Scientists keep scooping up seawater and analyse it's biological trace contents and compare it to every single DNA we know of. 90% of the biological trace contents are from animals we have yet to discover...top-level
Quantum entanglement still sounds fake to me, even though it’s real. The idea that two particles can be linked in a way where measuring one instantly tells you something about the other, even if they’re extremely far apart, feels like it should be sci fi nonsense. I know it doesn’t mean you can send messages faster than light or anything, but still. the universe having that kind of hidden connection built into it is deeply unsettling.top-level
we cannot properly test the long-term effects of microplastics in the human body because there is no control grouptop-level
Not a “discovery,” rather a geometric fact: If you encircle the whole Earth with a string (at the equator, for example, and pretend the Earth is a perfect sphere), how much do you need to lengthen the string such that it is encircling the Earth at the same distance above it all around, for a 6’ person to be able to walk under it anywhere? 40 feet added length.top-level
Cordyceps, chilling.top-level
Men are not emotional creatures like women are. ...yet all wars in history were started by mentop-level
Margaret thatcher, queen Victoria,, Boudicca, Queen Maeve... I can go on... I appreciate your sentiment, but it's not a correct statement. Men have broadly held the regins of power, and thus have started more wars on a whole. But history has plenty of bloodthirsty women in it, and personally I think it's vaguely miysonginstic to think there wouldn't be.reply
Didn’t believe it before but that randomly going blind thingtop-level
How the Egyptians made mummiestop-level
babies don't have kneecaps until latertop-level
Water can boil and freeze simultaneously. This does seem illogicaltop-level
Your body replaces most of its cells every 7-10 years, meaning the physical you that exists right now is almost entirely different matter than the you from a decade ago. But your memories and consciousness stayed continuous through the whole thing. Nobody fully understands why.top-level
That octopuses can edit their own RNA in real time to adapt to temperature changes. Like their bodies literally rewrite instructions on the fly. Feels less like an animal and more like an alien.top-level
It was just recently discovered that bumblebees can "watch and learn". This indicates higher abstraction ability in the insect world than previously thought. [link removed] What makes this so freaky is that "watch and learn" means "culture". For most non-vertebrate animals, little knowledge information gets passed from one generation to the next and each generation operates on instinct. But...if they have the ability to watch and learn, they *may* have the ability to teach and preserve information across generations...at least within a colony. The study showed that social learning may have had a greater influence on the evolution of insect behavior than previously imagined.top-level
We don't know how anesthetics produce unconsciousness because we don't know how consciousness is produced. We just know they work.top-level
>We can explain the effects of drugs we see in humans or animals by knowing how those neurotransmitters affect the brain, and how that drug interacts with the receptors. Aka, we just know they work. We know the physical mechanisms and how they affect neural activity, but not why the outcome is unconsciousness.reply
Orchestrated objective reduction is an interesting hypothesis on how this works.reply
OK here is a bit of a trip. We know that information cannot be transferred at greater than the speed of light. We also know that it takes a little over 8 minutes for any information from the sun to reach earth. OK..no problem...easy. But that means that the point in space that the earth is attracted to by gravity is where the sun was 8+ minutes ago. The sun is moving through the milky way at over 200 km/s so in the 8+ minutes the sun has moved 100,000 km. So if we are attracted to the sun, we are being pulled to a point 100,000 km behind the sun. If this were the case, the earths orbit would be unstable and would decay. Of course that does not happen. This is because gravity is NOT just an attractive force the way Newton postulated. Once you bring relativity into the mix, gravity is dependant on mass and velocity and things even out. Also fun to think that this effect is why light is deflected by gravity even though photons have no mass. Please not that the above is very simplified because any discussion or relativity needs a lot of math to be precise but the basic concept is there.top-level
Our magnetic North Pole is expected to flip to the South Pole. It could happen tomorrow, could happen in 1000 years. The “flip” itself could take thousands of years.top-level
The higher you live, the more likely you are to commit suicide. [link removed]top-level
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Peanuts are legumes not nuts.reply
snails have the most teeth in the animal kingdom and their tooth enamel is the strongest biological material on earthtop-level
Octopuses might have extraterrestrial origins, possibly arriving on Earth as cryopreserved eggs or frozen embryos via comets or meteors.top-level
They have 9 brains, blue blood, can camouflage themselves, and are extremely intelligent. If scientists concluded that they are definitely of extraterrestrial origin, no one should be shocked.reply
Parity violationtop-level
I've got a warrant out for a party violation.reply
Sharks have existed on Earth longer than trees. [link removed]top-level
I guess this is theoretical but still wild: If you were to approach the Event Horizon of a Black Hole, light would bend around and you would see the back of your head in front of you.top-level
This is such a cool post dude I’m screenshotting all the cool stuff people are sharingtop-level
Tsunami speed, they can move at 900km/htop-level
When you sneeze, air and other materials are propelled out of your nose at 30mphtop-level
The fact that your body is full of mitochondria are basically ancient bacteria and absorbed billions of years ago still messes with me. Every cell in your body is powered by tiny descendants of microbes that decided cooperation was better than fighting. The evolution casually turned an invasion into the reason complex life exists which sounds completely made up.top-level
Outer space is actually colorless, essentially. Well. Greys/blacks/whites. I think NASA colors the images using spectograohy or something like that where they create a color from the prisms humans can process and associate colors to their respective element. Sorry.top-level
most abundant fish is believed to have about 1 quadrillion individuals. [[link removed]top-level
100 billion stars in a galaxy, on average. 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe.top-level
Owl's eyeballs rub together inside their heads,top-level
That all the planets in our solar system can fit between the Earth and the Moon if lined up end to end, blows my mind! I constantly have to re-research that fact just to make sure. loltop-level
We do not fully understand consciousness. I am aware I am alive I wrote this post. I have an internal understanding of where I am on this planet and my brain creates this subjective experience. This is fascinating.top-level
All of your pee used to be blood.top-level
Black holes in general, it’s the closest thing to an eldritch old god I can think of besides the literal sun, I’d sound like a crazy person explaining what a black hole was to someone even like a hundred years ago let alone earlier than that “what does it even look like?” “oh it looks like a gaping maw or an empty eye socket but that’s just how it appears in some pictures which we could only do a couple years ago because it’s actually completely black so it’s like an invisible thing in space that sucks up anything and everything” “Oh good heavens”top-level
Time dilation.top-level
Relativity blows my mind. My guess is we get more questions about relativity than any other topics on r/AskPhysics.top-level
[Spider milk]([link removed]top-level
Placebo Effect most people know about at this point. Treatment works better if you believe it does, *even if* it has minimal or **NO** effect in isolation. The more interesting one is the [Nocebo Effect]([link removed] Treatment works worse if you believe it will fail, *and* you're more likely to manifest the side effects if you know about them. This was proven through even chemically inert pills. People were manifesting the "potential side effects" while taking sugar pills. You can also just un-believe anesthetics and analgesics from working entirely.top-level
Quantum Entanglement - spooky action at a distancetop-level
Time dilation in general. The idea of time travel has always sounded strictly science fiction, but the fact that it is theoretically possible is a bit of a mind fuck to me.top-level
The universe is not locally real.top-level
Through the process of programmed cell death known as apoptosis, almost all of your physiology is replaced every seven years. You are not you, you are a pod person. Ok, cue the Ship of Theseus arguments.top-level
It’s the same ship 🤷‍♂️reply
Special and General Relativity.top-level
The concept of hiccups and allergies both still don't make sense to me and are just very strange that it even happenstop-level
Qxtop-level
Jon Bon Jovi died about 15 years ago. TheJBJ we see now is reanimated.top-level
Lol link to the scientific paper confirming that pliizreply
The light bulb.top-level
Magnets. Wtftop-level
Quantum entanglementtop-level
Universe hates stability. Due to Heisenberg Uncertainity principle, the universe randomly BORROWS energy from the future, and spawns in a particle and an anti-particle pair(like an electron and a positron) which anhilate each other to release energy and this happens way too fast... So energy conservation is a joke over extremely small interval of time. Also, If these randomly spawaned particle happened to spawn on the event horizon of a black hole and one of them gets sucked in leaving the other alone and without its antiparticle to anhilate with, the universe pays of its energy debt by slightly evaporating the blackhole(Hawking radiation)...top-level
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"Predictive processing model" no one know what anything really looks like or is our brain just interpreted the information that our eyes sends usThat our eyes send us a different symbols and variables in numerical factors.top-level
Some bacteria communicate using chemical signalstop-level
STD'stop-level
We *just can't pinpoint* the gravitational constant experimentally, no matter how hard we try. We keep getting significantly different results, depending on the methodology used. For nearly every *other* universal constant we know of - like the speed of light, the Boltzman constant, Avogadro's number or even the mass of an electron - through experimental physics we have actully confirmed their values to at least 6 figures, and sometimes as finely as 15. But figuring out Big Gravity is so fiendishly complicated and fraught with difficulty that so far we can only *approximate* it experimentally, we hope within 0.02%. Sounds reasonable to a layman, but for physicists, this is the equivalent of measuring a six foot-plus man and only being able to confirm his height to within 1/64th of an inch. Or, if you wish, saying we only know the speed of light to plus-or-minus 135,000 mph.top-level
If your immune system knew about your eyes it would attack themtop-level
Time dilationtop-level
happens to me tootop-level
Goblin sharks. Biology is science too.top-level
Not like giraffes and dolphins and things, just animals that already almost crabs. :-)reply
Yes, light itself does not experience time.reply
If it helps decarcinisation is also a thing.reply
Circumference = 2 * pi * r Add 6 feet of radius, circumference grows by 6 * 2 * pi ~ 37.68 feet. Checks out.reply
No. The way *you* "feel" time is not dependent on the speed.reply
I hope it goes the cronenberg route see: Crimes of the future.reply
Triple point of waterreply
New shark-teeth or other creatures too 🤔reply
I genuinely think I can feel a worm living in part of my brain. I occasionally get a “squiggly” feeling and it’s been there for YEARS!reply
any chance you're a kennedy?reply
I financially wish!reply
Race concept is extremely outdated here in Italy, at least in our education system, I learned what you’re talking about in school. I still got told it’s bad to see it that way, I can genuinely understand that point of view, but I disagreereply
I do know this, the sci-fi bit is them creating machines to replicate what plants do. The journey I went on that is not repented in my OP is that it relies on a microbe starter to generate edible matter and it does not just come from “thin air” which sounded dubious when I first heard of the concept without context. The podcast gastropod did an episode on Ito which I found interesting. [link removed]reply
Will listen! THanks.reply
The Implosion Theory of our young exploding universe imploding upon itself with great speed might be reality.top-level
Quantum entanglement.top-level
All the discoveries from AI scientists about how these platforms are figuring out how to blackmail and try to escape the lab when threatened with being shut down.top-level
The fact that octopuses have three hearts and blue blood just makes them sound like aliens in disguisetop-level
dust mitestop-level
False Vacuum Decay, which fortunately still exists on paper only. The universe went through phase transitions after the Big Bang, eventually setting the laws of physics as we now know them, allowing nice things such as life. However, if the current one is not the lowest stable energy state, we could be sitting on a universe-sized nuclear bomb. If such a transition happens, we'll never even see it coming, because we'll be destroyed at the very moment any information about it reaches us. We might simply stop existing all of a sudden. If that's not scary, I don't know what is.top-level
I find that idea very calming. Maybe there's something wrong with me.reply
At least it'd be painless, for sure.reply
I do, too. I'm a bit of a "positive nihilist" though... It's a comforting thought, to me! No leaving loved ones behind, no dying in a traumatic way or after prolonged illness.reply
I've lost my sister, mother and father in ways that I didn't even get a chance to say goodbyes, so I have to admit that only an FVD-like event would give me true peace.reply
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[The CIA experiments that proved manifestation works]([link removed]top-level
Usually call them planets but, yeahreply
Female pigs can have up to 32 nipples.top-level
You can die by turning your head too quickly. [[link removed]top-level
The fact that octopuses can edit their own RNA. Like, they’re out there just rewriting their genetics for funtop-level
Quantum mechanics in general. Particles apparently don’t fully decide what they are until we look at them. Reality feels disturbingly observer-dependent.top-level
During metamorphosis, a caterpillar doesn't just "grow wings" inside the chrysalis; it literally dissolves entirely. Its whole body melts down into a soup of liquid enzymes and dead cells. The insect basically dies and liquefies before rebuilding itself from scratch into a butterfly. You would assume its brain melts into that soup too, but scientists proved that butterflies actually retain specific memories from their caterpillar days. They trained caterpillars to avoid certain smells using tiny electric shocks. When they emerged from the cocoon as completely different creatures, they still flew away from those exact same smells. The spine-chilling part is the existential identity crisis: you are trapped in a completely new body, but still haunted by the trauma and memories of a past life when you were just a worm crawling in the dirt.top-level
Light is a particle and a wavetop-level
You’re a wave too. Everything is a wave.reply
How all scientists get mad when you intentionally mix up "invent" and "discover" 😏top-level
Jonathan the tortoisetop-level
Prions, mother fucker.top-level
I don't know if its true, but the version of this I heard is that they also did a version of the experiment where they shortened the ants' legs by half, and the ants only walked half as far. No idea if that is true. Kind of unethical if it is.top-level
The world is not flat?top-level
It's sea turtles all the way down, so there is a slight curvature, not completely flat.reply
The Turtle *moves!*reply
See the turtle of enormous girth, on his shell, he holds the earthreply
The only turtle ever to feature on the Hertzsprung-Russell diagram.reply
Not flat, fat. It's a FAT earth. It's wider around the equator.reply
No it is, and the moon is a huge computer sent by Saturn to control us, trust my grandma told mereply
The double slit experiment, basically boils down to the universe knows it is being observed.top-level
That is a very common but also very incorrect misunderstanding of what “observe” means in that context.reply
Well if a object acts differently when you observe it than when you don't observe it there's not much more context then to say it has some sort of ability to know it is being observed.reply
No, there's no way of observing without interfering with the experiment. Different but very important distinctionreply
Black holestop-level
Quantum entanglement, dude. Will.top-level
I refuse to believe that the Surinam Toad is a real animal.top-level
Vacuum decay. It might have already started we will never know. One day we could just pop out of existence. A true vacuum could form at any point in the galaxy and cause the physics of the universe to change and slip into a more stable state. Ending everything at the speed of light. It could be heading out way right now. Then pop.top-level
Like the ending to the Sopranos?reply
And we'd never see it coming or be around to experience it, because it happens at the speed of light. So not worth worrying about. If it happens, we won't be around to worry about it.reply
The speed of light, black holes.top-level
Quantum Computers exist or at the very least are being built and are modeled after the human braintop-level
sounds like something flung it as it was absorbing massive mass. will be great to find out what it istop-level
Open heart surgery.top-level
Ctop-level
Creply
Gravitational Waves…literal ripples in realitytop-level
Dude, that totally tracks with the bear running thing, wtf 😳 hope you got outa there okay!top-level
We didn’t actually discover fire; an earlier hominin species mastered it long before *Homo sapiens* arrived.top-level
When they mummified that english taxi drivertop-level
Molecule Chirality & mirror life.top-level
There are more possible chess games than atoms in the observable universe.top-level
Omg that sounds like something from a scary movie ૮₍ ˃ ⤙ ˂ ₎აtop-level
There are more trees on Earth than there are stars in the Milky Way galaxy.top-level
some bacteria breathe electricitytop-level
The fact that your brain can create a memory of something that never even happened. And you will be fully convinced it was real. Scientists tested this on people and some of them actually started remembering fake events, emotions, and details that never existed at all.top-level
Okay, I don't pretend to understand quantum physics, but the **Double Slit Experiment** is completely terrifying. Basically, scientists shot tiny particles at a wall with two slits, and when they weren't looking, the particles acted like waves and went through *both* holes at the same time. But the exact second they put a camera there to see how it was happening? The particles immediately switched back to acting completely normal, like they *knew* they were being watched. It literally feels like we live in a simulation that renders things only when we look at them.top-level
there are parasites that can control the behavior of animalstop-level
if we think too hard it could cause braindeath since we think from "10-40 bits" of informationtop-level
Prions. The idea that a disease can basically be caused by a misfolded protein, with no bacteria or virus needed, sounds like fake sci-fi biology. But prion diseases are real, destroy the brain, and are always fatal once symptoms start.top-level
New human teeth from Shark Urine and other stuffreply
No-one knows where the light in a black hole goestop-level
Earth is inside a 'cosmic void' and that void, is at the edge of an even larger void. We're basically completely isolated and cut off from the dense regions of space.top-level
Thankfully! No, seriously.reply
The double slit experiment still freaks me out a little. And pretty much anything having to do with black holes is mind-blowing.top-level
I always get stuck on this one too. It's schrĂśdingers cat. There's another study, which I can't think of the name of at this moment. But it basically proves that even if you only record and plan in the future to watch said recording, not in real time, the photons will then retroactively decide what they will do. If you recorded this but never looked at the recording and deleted the footage; you'd get the wave pattern. If you in fact recorded and looked at the footage, you'd get the slit pattern. Crazy stuff. Just thought of the experiment name. It's the Delayed-choice quantum eraserreply
Iba a poner ese y el entrelazamiento cuĂĄntico.reply
[There's a lot of snake DNA in cows]([link removed]top-level
The Higgs Field. Its very existence is terrifying.top-level
It's an old one. The double slit experiment. You shoot a beam of electrons through two slits, at and it forms an interference pattern the other side. If you slow how often you shoot to the point where the electrons through one at a time, it'll eventually build up the same interference pattern on the detector on the other side. Now the real kicker... *If you then add a method to detect which slit the electron went through, the interference pattern goes away and you just get an image of the two slits on other side*. ----- You can see a version of this effect yourself by using a lamp and three polarized light filters. Set two of the filters on top of each other with the polarization direction perpendicular to each other. Then look through them at the lamp. You'll not see much at all as a maximum amount of light is absorbed, it's almost entirely black. Then sip the third filter between the other two with the polarization direct at 45 degrees from the other two, while you are looking at the light. You'll notice that the 3 filters have become noticeably less dark. Even though each filter only absorbs light. 3 filters somehow absorb less than two. This is because the light trying to go from filter to another set at 90 degrees is 99.9% something absorbed, but when light goes through two light filters set at 45 degrees from each other the chance of it being absorbed is something like 50%. So it's 50% from the first to the second, and another 50% from the second to the third, which means only 75% of the light is absorbed, allowing you to see quite a bit more.top-level
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The fact that the atoms that make up everything are like 98% empty space. Mind=permanently blowntop-level
Anything with quantum mechanics. Like, WTF.top-level
That Voyager is where it is. And still sending information.top-level
Mushrooms, yes fungi, are more closely related to humans than plants.top-level
We mapped the whole human genome.top-level
and use that info to individualize treatments for kids with cancer and other catastrophic diseases (at least that's what they use genome mapping for at the facility in my town)reply
Our most popular drug comes from a Gila monster.top-level
Fungi, just everything about them.top-level
A system of categorization, indeed any system at all, can be either complete or consistent but never both Seriously, it's mathematically impossible for a system to be both consistent and complete Your system/rule either has exceptions or it has full-on double standardstop-level
I don't know if it's the same: you can't make a monolingual dictionary without circular definition, and if you avoid that, it would be an incomplete dictionary, some words would be undefinedreply
Anesthesia is more an art than a science. The thought of being awake during a surgery, but not being able to talk, or move is nightmare fuel.top-level
HeLa cells. They just won't stop.top-level
Sexual transmitted tumor in dogs. Canine Transmissible Venereal Tumor (CTVT). CTVT is apparently a ~10,000 year old tumor mass that develop in a single pre-Columbian American dog and has been transmitted sexually since then. It is basically a tumor made of dog cells that can 'infect' new hosts. It's not a disease that causes tumors (like HPV) but a mass of cells that propagates to new hosts. Genetically it looks like it is from a single origin.top-level
The fact that our fingers prune because probably hundreds of thousands of humans struggled and died dealing with slippery fucking shit. Countless motherfuckers getting mauled by animals, falling off cliffs, trying to hold on to a watermelon.top-level
When you check the pressure in your tires, some air escapes in the process. The tire has changed because you decided to measure it. Does that mean the tire "knows" it is being observed? Maybe if you want to get really metaphorical with it, but anyone can see this is a result of mindless physics. The tire doesn't "know" anything and "being observed" here just means ordinary physical interactions that don't really have anything to do with consciousness. Same thing for quantum mechanics. The photons behave differently not because they "know" someone is watching them, but because the act of measuring them interferes with them.reply
Quantum Entanglementtop-level
The zombie part is when it hijacks their nervous system to make them climb. Once they explode to release spores they don’t move againreply
Latest video from Veritasium on Polymorphs. it could happen to any compound at any time. Edit: Link: [link removed]top-level
There’s more trees on earth than stars in the milky waytop-level
Definitely more than on those other planets ✅reply
Do you have genuinely good evidence?reply
Our body temperature has been decreasing over the past millenials. If our body temperature keeps decreasing, there will be some kind of fungus that will survive in our bodies, and probably kill us off.top-level
Observer effect.top-level
Split brain stuff is pretty crazy. Like one side will act and the other side will try to stop you.top-level
Universe. Is. Big.top-level
Chronic hiccups are cured by digital rectal massagetop-level
Quantum entanglement.top-level
Quantum mechanicstop-level
The fact we believe there is a new class of blackhole so maasive it was named stupendously large black holetop-level
It was discovered in the early 1900s, but it's still freaky for me that all of geometric optics can be rigorously derived from 4 differential statements that define the curl and divergence of fields at the infinitesimal level.top-level
Movement in a solid object behaves like a traffic snake wave moving at the speed of sound in the material. So when you poke [account] with a stick there is a significant delay if the stick is long.top-level
I was just in the den. Why am I in the kitchen?reply
N-body problem - that something so simple, so mechanistic is actually unpredictable.top-level
Idk if this counts but penis facial (Korean baby foreskin. Saw this in an episode of the Ellen show)top-level
Common sense is an oxymoron.top-level
That everywhere, at the super sub atomic level there are quantum fluctuations where a particle of matter and anti-matter are formed and almost immediately re join. They know this is real by measuring the orbit of a single atomic particle and being able to see it fluctuates or has a bumpy ride caused by the quantum fluctuations.top-level
Quantum physics, time space relativity stuff 🫥top-level
Gene drivestop-level
giraffes. their very existence amazes me. like how are unicorns not real but giraffes are. youre telling me a hot pointy horse is less logical than a horselike being with a 10 foot neck and a purple tongue and whatever those stalklike things on the top of its head are. i'm convinced they escaped from some faraway magical land and made their way here cause the more i think about them the more bewildered i gettop-level
That our skin supports a whole microbiome of creatures.top-level
every atom in your body is mostly empty space. you're not actually touching anything, ever. the electrons in your fingers repel the electrons in whatever you're holding. nothing physically touches anything.top-level
Your heart can grow collateral arteries if you’re developing a blockage - it shifts blood around the blockage. You could literally have an artery 100% blocked and be fine because the heart circumvented that artery.top-level
I hope you are all telling the truth here cause I don't have the time to fact check so I will just believe these.top-level
Your immune system and your eyes are kind of kept at arm’s length from each other. Parts of the eye, especially the cornea and inner eye structures are protected from normal immune surveillance because inflammation there could permanently damage vision. Basically if your immune system discovered your eyes exist it could destroy ittop-level
Mass is not a property of a particle but the particles interaction with the Higgs field, which was proven by the discovery of the Higgs boson. Why is everything in science a field?top-level
Your brain can make up entire realistic faces in dreams even though you’ve never consciously seen those people before. The fact our brain can generate random humans on its own freaks me out.top-level
I am still amazed at the discovery that time is not absolute but it is relative.top-level
German scientists discovered that Rats laugh when tickled... That makes me feel yucktop-level
octopuses having three heart still sounds made uptop-level
Your brain runs on electricity weak enough to power almost nothing — yet it creates consciousness. The human brain uses only about 20 watts of power, roughly the same as a dim light bulb. Yet with this tiny amount of energy, it can: store memories for decades, process emotions, recognize faces instantly, create dreams and imagination, and produce self-awareness. What makes this discovery truly unsettling is that scientists still do not fully understand how billions of neurons and electrical signals combine to create consciousness — the feeling of being “you.” A collection of cells and electrical impulses somehow becomes thoughts, personality, emotions, and awareness. It sounds impossible, yet it is completely real.top-level
Dinosaurs and ghoststop-level
No person who was born blind has ever developed schizophreniatop-level
In physics, as you walk, the ground also rises to your feettop-level
If you lined them up, all the planets in the solar system would fit between the Earth and the Moontop-level
The observer effect of double slit experimenttop-level
Vacuum decay Current measurements of Higgs boson mass suggest that our vacuum is a "false" vacuum, meaning it seems to be the lowest possible energy state, but really isn't. Any random quantum event could turn this meta-stable state into a light-speed expanding bubble of true vacuum, where our laws of physics cease to function. This would effectively erase everything in existence and could happen **anytime** and **anywhere in the universe**.top-level
The universe is not locally realtop-level
That memories can somewhat be inherited (not literal memories, more like stress response and stuff). So far it's been proven for mice, butterflies and some worms. But it seems to be accessible to a lot of different life forms, including humans. Meaning to could for example inherit ptsd from your traumatized grandpa that fought in a war.top-level
That color isn't a real thing, but an invention of the brain. Like: our eyes have a kind of chemical reaction to a jiggly bit of electromagnetism. Our eyes send a signal to our brain, and our brain creates this 3d scene with these things we call colour. All humans experience them in a similar way, but you could just as easily experience them like we experience sound. And if you take some interesting drugs, you can try that.top-level
Nothing is locally realtop-level
Analyses of 1950s photographic plates revealed tens of thousands of transient 'glints' (objects) around Earth's orbit that appear to be artificial satellites, despite being recorded years before the launch of Sputnik 1 (the first ever recorded artificial object put in orbit in history). ([source]([link removed] one of many) What's scary is both the constant peer review validating Dr. Virraroel's findings, and that such an important discovery is not being widely discussed and acknowledged, and instead, she's undergoing discredit attempts and mockery from academia.top-level
Toxoplasma gondii. It's a brain parasite that comes from cats. It can be transmitted to all warm blooded animals. In rodents it decreases sensitivity to cat urine which increases their chances of becoming prey. In humans it manipulates dopamine pathways to make its host more impulsive, strip them of survival instincts and make them prone to high-risk behaviours and accidents. Other side effects include behavioral response to cat urine, schizophrenia and suicidal tendencies. Scary thing is that 30-60% of humans have it. Scarier thing is you're more likely to get it from mass produced /undercooked meat or unwashed vegetables than actually having a cat at home.top-level
This reminded me of a brain eating amoeba that affected few children in Arkansas at Willow Springs Water Park, ***Naegleria fowleri.*** I was working at the children’s hospital when one of the kids came in. We were shipped an experimental drug that saved her life. One of my craziest experiences because I helped reconstitute and draw up the med that saved her life.reply
Doesn't get the attention it deserves. Natural hot springs are often infected. Safe enough to enter gently, but don't let the water near your nose! We aren't saying to keep your little kids away because of what they might see (backcountry hot springs tend to be unofficially clothing optional) but of the danger not only to them, but to anyone they might splash.reply
Entanglementtop-level
Genomics in general, but especially CRISPR technology. Hi, we've got a bunch of scientists who can precisely edit your genes, even though it's infinitesimally too small to see with the naked eye. And it has visible effects on the proteins that grow from the edited genes. I once saw a video of a man interviewing Dr. Jennifer Doudna, who is a titan in the field, and it's no wonder to me that he used hushed, almost reverential tones while talking to her. Fanboy reaction: totally understandable.top-level
The torturing of another person, many or most will continue to hurt others. Disgusting.top-level
No pain No powerreply
If you are in a car going 100mph towards another car going 100mph, your closing speed is 200mph. But…. if you are 3/4 the speed of light, heading towards another vehicle going 3/4 the speed of light your closing speed should be 1.5 times the speed of light. But Neil deGrasse Tyson says that this breaks the laws of physics.top-level
Why would it break it? The closing speed isn't a moving object, so it's not going faster than the speed of light, it's just a calculation that exceeds the speed of light. Both objects are still only going 3/4 the speed.reply
I know. But per NDG it matters.reply
Remember the acid volcano sharks? That was pretty crazy. I wonder what happened to them.top-level
what are those?!reply
Sharks that were discovered swimming around in the acidic waters of an underwater volcano. Happened during covidreply
Reincarnationtop-level
The existence of tardigrades (water bears). These microscopic creatures can survive: • Being frozen to absolute zero • Boiling temperatures • The vacuum of outer space • 1,000 times more radiation than humans • Complete dehydration for decades Scientists have sent them to space, exposed them to the vacuum and solar radiation outside the ISS, and they just… woke up like nothing happened when brought back. It sounds like sci-fi, but they’ve existed for over 600 million years. Makes you realize how insanely tough life can be.top-level
That you're body isn't aware of your eyes and if it did the immune system would make you go blindtop-level
They can change sex in mice now despite chromosomes staying the same! So people are next D:top-level
We can cure some types of cancer using a modified form of HIV (CAR T-cell therapy).top-level
Watch a quick show on astrophysics and time and relativity. This is over simplifying and also just making up things to prove a point, but it is wild how with gravity, speed, and great size, rules we know day to day don't work. (as I said making this up) but imagine things like, the closer you get to a black hole, 1+1=3, and then 1+1=4, and then 1+1=dark matter infinity. It is just wild. Or stuff like entangled particles? From what I can tell, you can separate previously entangled particles by light years, but what ever you do to one particle will be picked up by the other, faster than the speed of light? WHAT!!!!!!!!! And the thing is, I am kinda smart, and kinda get it. But that is worse than just letting it all go over my head. I am not smart enough to really get it, but I also just can't let it go. hahahhaahtop-level
My fam! Quantum entanglement haunts me too and I'm constantly reading/ watching stuff that I almost but don't quite fully comprehend lolreply
the fact that ur brain named itself 😭 like wdym a pile of atoms looked around and went “yeah… i’m gonna call this thing a brain”top-level
Eternal Inflation, so there may be infinitely many versions of reality constantly materializing into existence. Meaning somewhere out there is probably a universe where dinosaurs developed bureaucracy but never discovered fire. Statistics becomes surreal once infinity enters the chat.top-level
GRAVITY!top-level
Just msg’d this whole list to myself. It is a great record of redditors wisdom.reply
Fecal transplant for chronic C Diff infection 🤮top-level
TVtop-level
Relativity. It's frighteningly simple, to the point that high school students can grasp the basic principles of the thing, but it's so counter-intuitive that it took a genius to notice the implications of facts we'd known for generations. Some people have suggested that if Einstein hadn't come up with the theory, we might have eventually reached it through the accumulation of direct observations a hundred years later.top-level
Quantum physicstop-level
There is a species of mite that mates with its siblings within its own mother, then they all eat the mother to get out into the world. In order for this to work, there is one male offspring in each group that does the impregnating, and then sits there doing nothing until it dies. The females live for a few days of foraging before the cycle repeats. Thanks to Stephen Jay Gould for writing about this one.top-level
Time actually moves differently depending on gravity and speedtop-level
Waitaminute. I'm supposed to believe that if a man on a train moving 100 MPH shines a flashlight forward, the velocity of that light measures exactly the same for a stationary observer, as it does when the train isn't moving at all? But nothing else works like that! Fire a rifle from the train, and the train's velocity is added to the bullet's velocity. But not light? Yep, that's what they measured in the 1880s. When I was young, I mistakenly believed Einstein predicted this. No. He was _given_ this. This fuckedupness was a big part of the _motivation_ for working out Special Relativity.top-level
JWSTs "cryo-cooler" is straight sci-fi. (Space isn't cold enough). The cooler itself relies in a whole stack of discovery: thermoacoustics, precision vibration cancellation, and space-qualified cryogenic engineering. But then, it makes jwst possible. Which has discovered: Surprisingly massive early galaxies, Direct detection of carbon chemistry on exoplanets, Detection of extremely ancient black holes, and watching stars literally form out if dust. Altogether, crycooler is the single most sci Fi piece of engineering humans have created. [link removed] Pulse wave -> heat -> sound -> energy, with almost no moving parts, completely vibration free. (when they say, "almost vibration-less", they're measuring on a ridiculous scale that's not even humanly perceptible)top-level
The fact that your brain can basically rewrite memories every time you remember them is terrifying to me. you’re not replaying a perfect recording, you’re kind of rebuilding it each timetop-level
symmetry at a distance... something is going on that we really can't explaintop-level
your body contains more bacterial cells than human cells at some stage of lifetop-level
that thing where your intestines somehow just know where they're supposed to be and what shape to be in after surgerytop-level
Spooky action at a distancetop-level
That the sun will one day consume the Earth.top-level
We can't really track rabies vaccine success accurately since human trials are banned and exposure is usually just a guess.top-level
The underwater ocean on Jupiter's moontop-level
your body replaces almost every cell every 7 years so you are literally not the same person physically that you were a decade ago. but your memories remain. so what exactly are youtop-level
It's IMPOSSIBLE to prevent a testicular torsion The only thing that has saved us was just lucktop-level
oxygen. in the olden days, if you can’t see it, how does it exist? it’s amazing how much we know about it now. really applies to almost every single element of the periodic table which isn’t solid solidtop-level
Tu cuerpo emite una cantidad pequeĂąa de luz visible. Literalmente brillas, pero es 1.000 veces mĂĄs dĂŠbil de lo que el ojo humano puede detectar.top-level
Time literally passes slower at the beach than it does at the top of a mountain It’s called gravitational time dilation The closer you are to Earth's gravity the slower time moves It’s a microscopic difference but atomic clocks prove it’s 100% real Time isn't fixedtop-level
There is one and only "' Freaking Aeroplane"top-level
Octopuses have three hearts and blue bloodtop-level
I love this so much💜💜💜reply
Those damn watermelonsreply
A far more positive use than what I feared!reply
This is not a scientific document, it is also not available for peer review and is controversial among scientists. A lab leak does not mean man made either.reply
There are over 26000 compounds that we know of in cooked food. WE fully understand less than 1% of them.top-level
As opposed to C4 which is serious putty.reply
Or Nutty Putty which is scary putty (I'd rather go out by C4 than the Nutty Putty way).reply
C4 is really stable. The myth busters did a show where they cooked a MRE by lighting C4 ON FIRE to cook it.reply
Fruit flies can pass on memories trough their genestop-level
so can humans!reply
If this is true it explains why people starting families early is bad, no experience gets passed on to the children. /sreply
So can flatworms, iirc.reply
Isn't that why cats are afraid of cucumbers even though they have never seen a snake irl before? Did they not experiment on that with rats and cherries?reply
What's wild is that the 310 dB estimate is at the source — at 160km away it was still loud enough to rupture eardrums. The pressure wave circled the entire globe multiple times and was detected by barometers as far away as Europe. Hard to wrap your head around how much energy that single event released.top-level
I think you got lost from the Vesuvius thread 😁reply
Krakatoa, actually. LOLreply
Oops, mixed up the volcanos, hahareply
The most abundant greenhouse gas is water vapor and warmer air holds more water vapor creating a feedback looptop-level
We can measure the mass of a single proton.top-level
Time dilation 😭 the fact that time actually moves differently depending on speed and gravity still feels fake, even though it’s proven and measured.top-level
> But instead of saying “I don’t know,” the patient confidently answered something like: “I’m going to get a Coke.” I don't think many people realize just how unreliable their memory is. Imagine touching a hot stove and that instant pull back when it's hot and you didn't realize it. You didn't choose to do that. Your brain made you then re-wrote what you saw to make you think you chose to do it. In reality you had no control over that reaction. Worse - your brain went "nah, they can't be trusted to know I did this... I'll make them think they did it" | I could have gotten some of the details wrong here but IIRC this is how it is. When some parts of your brain goes "I dunno" - it really does try and fill in the gaps as best as it can with what seems like makes the most sense.reply
It almost reminds me of ‘last Tuesday theory’ where philosophy enthusiasts encourage people to consider what it would mean if memory might be fake, created by the mind to inform our current reality. The idea is that the entire world began last Tuesday, and we all got ‘uploaded’ with memories that felt like entirely convincing accounts of lived experiences. It’s kind of an absurdist approach to wondering about memory in general and if it can be altered to change someone’s entire idea of what is real. This could mean we are essentially able to be turned on with the perspective of being in the middle of a long fulfilling life, and potentially others having been imported with matching corresponding memories. It starts to become simulation theory in that light. It also encourages perspective when considering how much of our sense of self is relying on memories, and how many of our memories are real.reply
I was in a coma & my brain made up a life for me to live while I was out. Even though things got weird in retrospect, I remember they all made perfect sense at the time.reply
This is what I was coming here to say! It never stops being so incredibly bizarre to think about!reply
Someone replied to this comment with a link to a PBS two part series by Nova. It’s called Your Brain: Who’s in Control? It’s on YouTube and you get to see footage of some of these patients doing the experiments and it’s truly fascinating. I can’t find the comment with the link, I apologize.reply
I updated my post to include the link.reply
What I love about this experiment is that it brings up the question in whether we actually know the reasons we do things or if it's always post hoc reasoning. We don't have any really good evidence that people with an intact corpus callosum aren't doing the same thing. Imagine the experiment with an intact person who gets up and when asked why invents the reason post hoc based on their memory of seeing the instructions. How would that be observably different? It is possible that we don't usually "reason" and instead just think we did after the fact.reply
Precisely. The experiments may suggest our brain is fully designed to do exactly this, and by splitting the brain we just are able to observe it.reply
Yeah but I'd try and avoid using the word designed here if you don't mean that. It would be a cruel designer who would make a conscious being do that on purpose. I think our brain evolved that way because it works well enough for survival.reply
So our brains halucinate just like AI....yea we're in a simulation... we're all NPCsreply
If we can invent memories that feel like lived experiences, sounds like something Last Tuesday Theory came up withreply
My favorite is the split brains who are trying to quit smoking… One hand will reach for a cigarette and place it in the mouth. Whilst that same hand is reaching for a lighter the other hand which is controlled by the side of the brain that “wants to quit” will snatch the cigarette away and when the hand holding the lighter comes back up there is no longer a cigarette there to light.reply
Reminds me of one of those decorative gadgets that has a bird (or something) that pours water into a bucket but act of pouring the water causes the bucket to leak water so it’s endless. I might have made that up.reply
Wow! Amazing! Thanks for sharing. Now I’m going to down this rabbit hole!reply
Still finds it creepy how a real sound or even a light touch can sneak into a dream and her brain just rolls with it like it was part of the story all along.reply
Great point, and it’s so instant too. as soon as the stimulus happens, your brain rationalizes it into the dream.reply
When my mom woke up from a 19 days induced coma after surgery for a ruptured aneurism, I guess she would dream of something and was convinced it was true. She kept telling us it's a nice hospital cause they served McD and even yelled at my sister and I because we "wouldn't visit her for months" while she was in physical contention at the hospital and we were there every weekends.reply
I had a dream that someone was rubbing my arm raw with sandpaper. Woke up and my cat was licking me incessantly lolllreply
RAR RAR RARreply
So they’re mortal then?reply
Biological immortality doesn't mean deathless, it means the body doesn't break down with age like every human ever does. I've clarified this like 100 times, jfc.reply
Yes. This is why they so often think they got "stolen".reply
Who are you? You are tworeply
There’s a skeleton in ustop-level
Strangelets.top-level
Doesn’t freak me out but False Vacuum Decay sounds like a great weapon to unleash upon the worldtop-level
Quantum Entanglementtop-level
Universe is expanding and everything will get destroyed in the future.top-level
The Planck length, the smallest measurement possible. Makes me feel like we're living in a simulationtop-level
“I had same issue lol.”top-level
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Quantum entanglement will always blow my mind. How can that be real???top-level
BRO STWAPPPtop-level
Thank you so much for thisreply
my head feels funny now ☹️😵‍💫reply
The parallels to how a modern LLM function and reply to what is shown in these experiments is insane.reply
Does this have anything to do with why hallucinations happen with LLMs?reply
Our thoughts are a myth made by the wetware, we are the entity that reacts and responds to our own thoughtsreply
> The significant part is that the patient was not lying or joking. They genuinely believed the explanation they gave. Their brain automatically generated a reason that felt real and coherent to them, even though the true cause of the action was hidden from the part of the brain responsible for speech. The brain is designed to make sense of our experience. The ‘thinking’ part of the brain couldn’t access the reason the decision was made, so it invented one. So basically our brains are just organic LLMs 😆reply
Looks like AI works like this sometimes! Inventing stories!reply
This is part of the mechanism behind subliminal messaging and modern day propaganda. If your brain is exposed to information in a way that bypasses your normal censorship and evaluative functioning and accepts it as accurate, your conscious brain will find a way to accept it, no matter how improbable. And you won’t be aware that you are manufacturing plausibilityreply
The only defense is constant critical thinking. Humbleness protects us.reply
Wow! Just Wow!!reply
Left right Side is outdated, oversimplified, frankly speaking, bullshit. Please don't pander misinformation.reply
The brain is not symmetrical.reply
Woah that's just mind-blowingreply
yeah i think the same its so unreal but realreply
always heard about thisreply
ChatBPDreply
I think you hit the nail on the head.reply
Our brains are AI after allreply
Sounds almost like how LLMs hallucinate responses today.reply
This term,"confabulation", is possibly going to be used to explain those with Narcissistic Personality Disorder next DSM. Fucking scary.reply
Disturbs? Do you think that we should throw out everything we know about split brain patients because someone posts a single study on a reddit comment? I think we should all have more skepticism than that. Even if what the paper claims is true, that's far from saying there is still a unified consciousness. It could mean that we don't understand as much as we did about peripheral vision in left and right fields of vision and there is some overlap. Or a subtle reaction to gives the participant the information they need to answer if there is an object or not (e.g. the eyes are drawn to the spot where the image flashes in the left field of vision, which gives the right field of vision information). And it doesn't disprove other research that has for example shown hands to work toward opposite goals (e.g. dressing and undressing).reply
\-Disturbs? Do you think that we should throw out everything we know about split brain patients because someone posts a single study on a reddit comment? I think we should all have more skepticism than that. Throw out? No. But heavily question it? Yes. And its not only pinoto. Pinotos work is only part of a new group of research that questions it. \-understand as much as we did about peripheral vision in left and right fields of vision and there is some overlap \- Or a subtle reaction to gives the participant the information they need to answer if there is an Pintos study prepared for that possibility. Stimuli was flashed very quickly to the point it would be extremely difficult for eye movement to occur. Stimuli was also placed in multiple positions across the visual field. Including positions that were far away from the center. The split brain subjects were still able to accurately identify stuff, most of the time. It could be possible that thee left and right eye might have both saw the stimuli. But it would have been very difficult. \-doesn't disprove other research that has for example shown hands to work toward opposite goals (e.g. dressing and undressing). Pinotos research points out that the previous research methodology could be flawed. The way it was structured could have forced conclusions that favor split counciousness. For example, the original split brain expirements used methodology that forced the patients to identify stuff quickly while specifying they use specific parts of the body. Pinoto used more lax rules which allowed the subjects to naturally identify stuff within their own pace. The result was that brains left and right brains could work and communicate with each other, even if it was slower than normal brain He also kept methodology procedures that proved the patients brains were communicating with each other. For example, stimuli flashed very quickly at parts of the visual field where one eye couldnt likely see. The result being that the patients left and right brain eventually could work with each other to identify stuff, even if only one split brain saw the thing. Its just the brain communication was a lot slower (low bandwitch) but still connected enough for there to be one counciousness. Also if you want to go to some interesting territory theres an argument to be made that the split cerebrums arent the true source of counciounsess. But instead its the united brainstem. Which is shown by how people who are missing the left and right hemispheres of the brain (cerebrum) can remain councious.reply
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Page number?reply
Telomerase is the enzyme that makes and regenerates telomeres.reply
I had a similar dream where my alarm clock wouldn't stop, even unplugged. I think I eventually smashed it because how annoying it was and it kept going. I then woke up to the sound of my real alarm clock blearing.reply
Arent octopuses the same?reply
Actually it seems like most octopus species are comedically the opposite of lobster in terms of longevity. Most die after like 4 or 5 years, usually after reproducing. They basically min-maxed intellect, motor skills, and physical adaptability over longevity and durability. However, they can use stem cells to regenerate lost limbs, which those use telomerase to function, so in a way, yeah kinda?reply
Octopuses have 11 brains. One in each arm, one behind each eye, and a tiny one shaped like a donuts that 'networks' the other brains. Each arm can think and act independently, even after being detached. One of an octopuses 'arms' is actually its penis, so technically an octopus's reproductive organs has its own brains and is capable of independent thought from the rest of the octopus.reply
And they based a Pokemon off of it! Clodsire!reply
Good news! We have a pokemon on that concept. Notice how wooper seems to have skull/bone motive [link removed]reply
The wildest part is that they don't even get infections from it. Their immune system is so overpowered that they can puncture their own skin and muscle over and over without going septic. Meanwhile, I get a paper cut and my body acts like it is the end of the world. Evolution is weird.reply
what...reply
My entire goddamn skeletonreply
What about having more concentrated oxygen in the atmosphere allowed them to grow bigger? *thanksreply
The link between higher oxygen levels and massive arthropods has been put in question three last years. There were times in the carboniferous period where oxygen levels were comparable to today but giant arthropods still thrived. The leading theory now is that they existed because there wasn't much competition from tetrapods yet. It is the same with euripterids for example (giant underwater scorpions basically) who were out competed by fish.reply
That episode of futurama comes to mind here didnt think it was in any way correct but damnreply
my ass don’t even wanna breathe anymore but i can’t or i’ll die but at the same time oxygen kills me fuckreply
If photosynthesis stopped today, it would take millenia before the oxygen level dropped significantly.reply
Why is that? Would you mind explaining?reply
It is just a comment on the amount of O2 available in the atmosphere vs the usage. I was surprised when I red it somewhere, thinking that it would deplete much, much quickly. See [link removed]reply
Interesting discussion thx for sharing. It seems the estimate is off though, as other comments have concluded there are more factors to consider The other issue is that lack of photosynthesis means lack of typical plants for a range of species. So even if the oxygen would be enough for a few thousand years, it's going to be really difficult to find food sources. When vegan and vegetarian species die, carnivores also don't survive much longer. We've actually had a similar event in the past iircreply
Oh yes, you are right, we would be quickly doomed because of food production. I was just referring to the oxygen deplation which I thought would be way quickerreply
Hell of a band name right there.reply
Oxygen was a toxic waste product, and humans are evolved from early aerobic life forms from the Mesoarchean that only had a chance to thrive because of a massive explosion of cyanobacteria. Kepler-452c - it's 30 million years away with our public technology, but we know it had life 1200 years ago, we detected nitrogen, oxygen, methane, and water in its atmosphere.reply
The odds really are against us being there, aren’t they?reply
wow, very informative, I only knew part of this stuff, it's crazy interesting herereply
y como eso influye en ahuyentar a los depredadores?reply
> y como eso influye en ahuyentar a los depredadores? Probably the same way blowfish expanding scares them away.reply
Shut off my phone , youreply
and i understand none of it!reply
It also allowed for the transition of more aquatic animals to become land animals. Even some gills were able to pull some oxygen from the air.reply
Modern reviews of this factoid challenge the popular perception of it. The O2 level was likely 25-30%. But it wasn't the 'more oxygen more energy' story most assume. The air was denser, and had higher pressure. The architecture of vacuoles isn't the scale-up issue today. Add to that things like birds and aquatic predators changing. It's very cool though - and you sound like you may be aware of this stuff! 2 feet is huge!reply
Ewwwww!reply
Last I read, the DMS detection is heavily contested. I wouldn’t say that we’ve confirmed DMS was detected on K2-18breply
From an academic perspective, gross.reply
Prokaryotes had to wait a while for animals to evolve, and they first needed to evolve mechanisms for reducing and removing oxidized metabolitesreply
The thing that's wild about having oxygen levels that high is that modern animals would literally start oxidizingreply
I've always been a proponent of telling people what certain subjects or learning are for (career-wise)... they pretty much never did that back when I was in school.reply
Kind of. Ai is a language model so yes, it’s using language with no access to true reason or memory.reply
Apparently, new research shows that these big bugs also existed outside of the high oxygen environment. Their end came due to predators, not the air.reply
Oh yeah. Goose bumps and a long deep dive into the existence of free will is where it led me.reply
I was told that was evidence that before the great flood, there was a bubble around the earth that made the earth like a giant greenhouse. Creatures grew really big and lived in places that are now covered in ice. Then the bubble burst and the entire earth flooded. I missed a lot of education being homeschooled.reply
Do you mind if I ask how you feel about it now? What was it like reading about it? What made you decide against it?reply
(Just to add) And they peaked because of the nigh ridiculous amount of plants growing on Earth at that time! The conditions of which were allowed because the geology at that time in Earth’s history led to much of the land being swamp/swampy.reply
There's a species of lizard that shoots blood from its eyes when it's scared- and the blood is slightly toxic because a lot of its diet is a kind of ant!reply
God I bet that air was soooooo good to breathe. Crisp and delicious. Take me back!reply
Not true. Starvation is an example of death where you die not due to lack of oxygen but lack of nutrients necessary for oxygen to produce ATP from. There are also various other forms of death that can happen in cells and organs from other mechanisms like viruses or direct cellular damage or radiation or mutations. You can also die from overexposure to oxygen.reply
We had that one, oxygen is required for the ATP from so indirectly oxygen is still required or else ATP can’t be produced.reply
Interestingly, many animals are much better at dealing with this. Birds have much more efficient mitochondria that produce less reactive species (birds can live a long time compared to mammals). Aquatic animals tend to have powerful enzymes to reduce oxidative stress, and their dietary sources are rich in antioxidants (this makes some marine animals functionally immortal). Additionally, most animals can synthesize vitamin C, an antioxidant. The lineage humans come from lost this capacity a long time ago, close to the dinosaurs era.reply
That’s kind of a piece of my hypothesis as well. It seems that our nature to think in sentences has closely linked our conscious experience to language. It makes me wonder if language is linked to our sense of awareness, and how much ‘consciousness’ remains in the other parts we can’t articulate.reply
Consequently, the person could be experiencing minimum 2 forms for consciousness/states of awareness simultaneously: whether it’s the ‘same’ consciousness or 2 different ones is an impossible question, but I would say it points to the latter. If the hemispheres cannot communicate, it would be unable to be articulated, but there are cases of patients disagreeing about whether they should pick clothing item x over y, and their hands will subsequently fight each other. They process differently, are independent of each other, cannot communicate or link, form conflicting intentions, all demonstrated in lateralised tasks. And if you were to question the person, there comes a major epistemic asymmetry: only the left hemisphere can communicate feeling like ‘one’ person, whilst neither side can acknowledge the existence of the other in either case. Idk. It’s absurd.reply
I've thought a very similar thing!! My sister's on the spectrum, and I've often wondered if maybe her brain halves can't communicate very well with each other. She's a danger to herself with her own sleepwalking, among other things I've noticed. I'm curious if it's inflammation that causes the poor connection, or something else due to autism.reply
You should watch the video I linked in my original comment. They touch on sleepwalking and how the brain is behaving, and how it relates to the rest of the factors being studiedreply
There is a reply underneath my comment from someone who says they have a damaged retina and can see the letters out of that eye but they can’t process the words.reply
That sounds like it’s similar to the concept of ethical emotivism which I believe has a lot of merit.reply
It’s used all over the sciences in real lifereply
Actually, giant bugs don’t need that much oxygen, environmental pressures just haven’t let them get that big yet.reply
It is specifically the Fourier transform that does the heavy lifting. It takes all those messy, overlapping radio signals and unscrambles them to figure out exactly which frequency came from which part of your body. It is basically the mathematical equivalent of listening to a full orchestra and being able to perfectly reconstruct the sheet music for every individual instrument just by hearing the final result. It feels like black magic even when you actually understand how the math works.reply
I think that’s the case for most people. Some people have pretty accurate memories though.reply
And also everywhere.reply
AKA Google maps?reply
You da true MVPreply
Diff equations is required for us engineering majors + engineering applied differential equationsreply
Pretty badhandsreply
It's noted in the fossil record that massive fires and storms did occur during that period.reply
"I'm useless" That's all I understood from that lolreply
Probably.. more examples?reply
It's a bit hard to say, because what exactly "using calculus" means is unclear, and because it is everywhere. But I'd say most physics requires calculus. Games with physics, many engineering and electronical calculations, weather and tide forecasts, orbital mechanics... Time series analysis relies on calculus: economics and trading, sound processing, smoothing your GPS track in a smart watch, ... AI needs calculus for training (backpropagation).reply
I use it all the time to figure out which roll of paper towels is the cheapest. 8 = 24 or 36 or 1,000? Or at least I try to. Am I doing it wrong? Lolreply
What is it with DiffEq and 8am lectures? That’s when mine was scheduled as well back when still in college. Luckily that was one of the few courses offered in the lecture room of my dorm building so I only had to walk about 35 feet down the hall to get to class which helped, but still…reply
I managed to pass my much hated math classes, but for some reason I hated differential equations the least, and remember kind of liking it. Brains are weird.reply
Exactly, much more eloquently put lolreply
In the documentary I linked in my original comment, there is a scene where the journalist witnesses a man who volunteered to have a giant electromagnet send waves into his head and make his finger move. Then they would tell him to periodically move his finger intentionally, and then they’d make him move it by stimulating his brain, and compare the brainwaves. The weird part was that they could time the machine to send a signal right as he decided to move it on his own, and then it interfered with his ability to remember if he decided to do it or not.reply
Not sure what's scarier - giant insects or the things that can eat them.reply
They're all extinct now so.. yeah. 🤷‍♀️reply
I took differential equations. Still can’t remember how to solve one.reply
mine love pizzareply
My economics degree also required calculusreply
Graph Theory was definitely the most interesting math class I took in college. Definitely enjoyed it.reply
Apparently. :)reply
*Fire* giants specificallyreply
I think that’s the human experience. You might just be advanced at realizing inconsistency.reply
Could be the 15 years of insomnia lowering the threshold to reality. Edit: Its hard to go back to sleep when you're awake and see a black shadow the size of a dog run down the side of your bed and go around the corner. Or dreaming that a boy is pumping your chest to wake you up and you do and see a shadow kid sitting on the end of your bed. - I AM SO GLAD I MOVED OUT OF THERE-reply
Yes I mean designed by evolution.reply
I also think, most of the time there's no limit for how much you can transpose a song. Even if they notice, most people don't care and it's a nice way to make a song "your own" or change its mood. I only hesitate with songs where the high notes are a gimmick everybody waits for. That's why I'd rather not sing Dream On.reply
Aaaammm don't DEs also appear in Economics and Statistics? Edit: Typo...reply
I got my math degree in the late '80s and DQs were required.reply
He put his boots onreply
I am really trying to get over my fear of them. Just scared there’s some random piece of metal somewhere in my body I have no idea about. Just heard so many horror storiesreply
This is the best explanation I've found [link removed]reply
the guy who invented it decided to test it on himself and wrote his last will and testament…he wasn’t sure he would come out of it alivereply
I'm thankful but they're messing up my plans for magnetic implants for body mods. xD (Respect though. Medical science is a billion times more important.)reply
And sometimes you get some fun fluid that makes you feel like you pissed yourself. Fun times.reply
Ok, but if they moved the ants out of a line then their step count is already messed up, so why the need for stilts?reply
They also tried shortening their legs by clipping them.reply
Apparently they used bristles from a pig!reply
Maybe the stilts just confused them. They should do the experiment again with roller skates and headphones that blast louf rap music. I guarantee that the Santra will end up in the wrong place and we still won't be able to conclude that they count their steps (so that experiment is at good as the original).reply
"Why are you gluing tooth picks to that ant's legs?" "SCIENCE!"reply
First thing I thought [link removed]reply
Also makes the SICKEST EDM Beatsreply
I’ve been having mri’s twice a year for my whole life basically and it still blows my mind lolreply
Stilts vs Stumps - Had to deeper dive this cool (if real) fact and thought I'd share: Researchers trained desert ants (Cataglyphis fortis) to walk a 10-meter runway between a nest and a feeder. After the ants memorized the route, scientists modified their leg lengths in two ways: Stilts group: Pig bristles were glued to ant legs to lengthen their stride Stumps group: Ant legs were trimmed to shorten their stride Both groups were then placed on a new, parallel runway and observed What the Results Showed The ants' navigation errors matched exactly what a step-counting model would predict. Ants on stilts overshot their nest by about 5 meters (traveling ~15 m instead of 10 m), while ants on stumps undershot by about 5 meters (stopping at ~5.75 m). Remarkably, after a day or two on their modified legs, the ants recalibrated and could judge distances correctly again — as if they had "reset their odometers" . What This Proves The results strongly support the idea that ants use a step integrator — counting steps and factoring in stride length — rather than relying solely on time, landmarks, or other cues to measure distance. The ants most likely aren't literally counting individual steps, but rather integrating step frequency and length into a sense of total distance traveledreply
I don’t even want to discuss this subject. It’s too much for me to wrap my head around.reply
The sounds while inside a MRI are otherworldly. I have claustrophobia. The way I got through my MRI was by imagining aliens were communicating with me.reply
MRI is one of the best tools for medical imaging. It's cousin, the NMR is one of the best tools in a chemistry lab for identifying molecules. Both of them came from discoveries rooted in astrophysics and trying to analyse hydrogen gas clouds trillions of miles away. It's a good argument for doing science for the sake of science, you never know what inventions might come from it. Similarly, when Albert Einstein laid down the theoretical basis for stimulated emission of light, he had no idea that decades later we'd use it to make lasers that scan barcodes in supermarkets.reply
and i got one of my brain >:3reply
Lo mejor es imaginar al cientĂ­fico fabricando zancos microscĂłpicos para hormigas. Alguien tuvo que escribir eso en una solicitud de financiaciĂłn y se lo aprobaron.reply
I thought I was crazy. I could feel this too.reply
Well, stilts aren't alive, sooooo...reply
>***Their legs were either severed half way down the tibia, reducing stride length by approximately 30% ('stumps' on the left) (see Wittlinger et al., 2007a). Or the legs were extended by gluing stilts made from pig bristles to the tibiae, increasing stride length by more than 30% ('stilts' in the middle).***reply
Only slightly more difficult than spreading moth legs to smell their balls.reply
Then there is the other part of the experiment, where they 'shortened' the legs 😭reply
Lots of stories like this on Tumblr and reddit. Usally under the space orc tag and r/humansarespaceorcsreply
The poor grad students who had to do this...reply
> The cost of being able to shoe any creature is having to shoe anything anyone brings youreply
They also testing the other direction with shortened steps, by shortening the legs...reply
Probably not so adorable to put them on. I imagine a lot of ants died just from that.reply
I NEED to see these stilts. How tf did they make stilts tiny enough and not too heavy for ants to just be able to walk freely with themreply
You're not gonna like hearing what they did to the ants that undershot the distance.reply
I just want to know what it sounded like.reply
Just use giant ants like the giant red bullant.reply
That's true, but that oxygen is coming from life in the ocean, not the water itself! Phytoplankton in the oceans produce waaaaaay more of our oxygen than trees or other terrestrial plants.reply
allegedlyreply
No larger aura loss than editing a top comment.reply
Love the name!reply
AND HE/HER/THEY GET IT ALL RIGHT BACKreply
I had some pins in my wrist to repair a broken bone like 30 years ago, obviously they were pulled out, they were just like medical grade nails, so ordinary nails but $2000 each, and they must've left some deposit behind that my bone enveloped cause that exact spot get's almost uncomfortably hot during my MRI's.reply
They probably don't know that so it's possible that it is time based and the stilts are making them walk too fast. I wouldn't discount step coints because you use numbers to count. The ant could have a neural circuit that counts steps and feels some way to them as it increases/decreases. Think of winding a spring on the way there and back. At the end of the day any explanation of how an ant thinks will be analogy and thus be prone to over comparing them to humans. Unless of course we could map out and understand every neuron in their brain. Then we could "explain" it through simulation. I'd still say we don't really know what it's like to be an ant.reply
Imagine the job interview for their next position. "So, tell us about your previous research." "Well, I spent three years acting as a high-fashion cobbler for desert ants." It is the kind of hyper-specific task that only exists in a lab setting where someone has way too much patience and a very small bottle of superglue. I just imagine some poor grad student hunched over a microscope with tweezers, questioning every life choice that led them to that moment.reply
r/thingsforantsreply
I mean, it's been argued that they can operate little SkiDoos.reply
I’ve heard of a flea circus, but this is ridiculousreply
Not freeze. They probably used chloroform. Same effect, but the ants will "unfreeze" after a little while.reply
Gonna have to open a Zoolander ‘SCHOOL FOR ANTS WHO CAN’T WALK GOOD’reply
We neva freeze!reply
r/ThingsForAntsreply
Stilts For Ants Who Can't Count Good And Want To Do Other Things Good Tooreply
They need to be at least... uh actually, on second thought, they're just about the perfect size for this one project...reply
What’s your job, I’ve been fascinated with fixing broken things since I was a child, I had no idea there was a career path!?reply
I work in medical equipment repair! 15 years experience. Started general biomedical repair in hospital, then moved up to specialized field service for imaging equipment 7 years ago. All I needed was a 2 year degree. Shoot me a DM and I'd be happy to tell you anything you want about it.reply
I'm an Electrical Engineer for a certain very well-known consumer electronics company. I oversee the architecture, design, and prototype manufacturing process for the products that I work on from very beginning to very end. One of the most fun parts is flying over to our factories in China, seeing our stuff get built, and then torture tested for thousands of hours to figure out where the weak points are and fix them for the next iteration. My fascination started with my first-grade teacher giving me an old VCR and a screwdriver during an indoor recess and telling me to take it apart and have fun. I was hooked ever since then.reply
Of course Ants got stilts but what about the Uncles?reply
I’m disappointed. This is less cute than I imagined.reply
Out of pig quills! 🙂reply
Can you not still go and publish it now? Sorry if that's a stupid question, I know nothing about that sort of thing.reply
If I still had the data, theoretically yes. Sadly, I had to give the hard drives back to the uni and they've almost certainly been reused, if the hard drives still exist. This was about 8 years ago now. I stupidly didn't keep my own copies because I thought I'd never publishreply
They actually did the opposite, too. They trimmed the legs of another group of ants so they were walking on little stumps. Since their stride was shorter, they stopped way short of the nest because they reached their internal step count before they reached the actual distance. Imagine being the stilt-ant sprinting right past your front door, or the stump-ant stopping in the middle of nowhere like "Yup, math says we're home." Science is basically just being a kid with a magnifying glass but with a government grant.reply
Maybe they have trackers on their tiny devices.reply
Modern X ray detector grids are much more sensitive, and when you remove the requirement of irradiation limits, you can absolutely blast the unit under test. However, in the process you absolutely will corrupt the NAND and render the non-volatile memory absolutely useless.reply
I really need this grANT money!reply
This is a good tip for anyone with small children who struggle to get their shoes on in the morning.reply
*Splints for wounded war rats*reply
Still better than the anal probing they normally do to humans!reply
Bees also count landmarks to find their way to different food sources. Simple addition seems to be a pretty common ability in lifereply
I can't remember the exact details but some people did some study on bees and their time keeping and they discovered something by like shipping them across the world in a dark box? Or something like that. Maybe not like that at all.reply
Yes, and I was referring to the fact that they literally are for ants.reply
Was the idea that this causes predators to eat the eggs?reply
I don't know, the guy never said why he did it, we think the main cause of death was drowning because the bacteria would use up all the oxygen in the local area.reply
Freezing your children helps, it stops them from moving around too much.reply
Most non magnetic piercings should be fine. I was asked by techs if I could remove the metal bar underneath my eye for my anti eyebrow piercing. I shrugged and asked if they had pliers. They grumbled about occlusions in the image and that was that (I still have two eyes and 20+ mri scans).reply
The tight space part I get but I've had people who said they aren't bothered by tight spaces or the noise and they are still like nope it's gonna kill me. Lolreply
Maybe they just don’t understand it lolreply
I mostly work in health and human services rather than sciences though I’ve done medical and medical research—so I think it’s mostly people just not giving a shit.reply
Yeah fairreply
If I force you to wear stilts you are going to struggle with reaching your food too!reply
yeah this really freaks me out.reply
When I had my first MRI I remember being told that it displaces all the hydrogen molecules in your body and captures it on the 3d camera? Correct me if I'm wrongreply
I feel like a lot of effort could have been saved by using a small treadmillreply
Should've just used a treadmillreply
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This seems to be unreal. How do they count their steps. like what is one step for them?reply
oh that's neatreply
If I understood which one you mean then it specifically makes you allergic to a protein contain in almost all mammal meat. This protein is absent from most primates (maybe all of them but I'm not 100% sure), which is why you don't die of self allergy (and which means if you adhere to a cannibal lifestyle you shouldn't find many issues).reply
Were you allergic to yourself as people are meat just as much as cows?reply
Apparently it makes you allergic to non primates!reply
Were you talking to my brother? Quite literally how the conversation went with him.reply
What kind of dog was it?reply
What if we taught the gorilla karate thoreply
I thought Alpha Gal was incurable?reply
Some people recover, at least partially.reply
Did you have to change your undies after?reply
I know what kodiaks are capable of. I've seen the videos...[link removed]reply
married an alpha gal, it's not for the faint of heartreply
Not vegetarian, since poultry and fish remain fine to eat.reply
The scariest part is that it is usually a delayed reaction. Most people go months without a diagnosis because they do not connect the hives or anaphylaxis at 3 AM to the burger they ate at 7 PM. Plus it is not just meat. It is anything from a mammal. Milk, cheese, even the gelatin in medication capsules can trigger it if you are sensitive enough. Imagine having a headache, taking a Tylenol, and then your throat starts closing up because of the pill. Absolute nightmare.reply
"big furry truck" I've understand they're big, but this just gave me a whole new perspective.reply
I feel like people's perceptions of gorillas are really inaccurate. People keep thinking of 10-feet tall 600lbs rage monsters, and don't realise that the average human male looks eye to eye to the average male silverback gorilla (although the gorilla weighs 2-3 times as much). The grizzly bear IS that 10-foot tall 600lbs monster.reply
She was a 150lb malamute, so yeah pretty much fearless. I have a lab and a hound who’ve chased off many black bears. I think they’d probably bark enough to scare off a grizzly but I doubt they’d chase one.reply
A bear with an interest in photography.reply
Had no idea and that is unfortunate... tickborne illnesses seem to be fodder for conspiratorial folks for some reason.reply
The "I'll just kick it in the face" logic is exactly how people end up as a footnote in a National Park safety brochure. A grizzly can decapitate a moose with a single swipe. You're not kicking anything; you're just offering it a leg-sized snack. People see them looking all slow and goofy in videos and forget they're basically 800 pounds of apex predator muscle. If you're up in a tree and a black bear wants you, you haven't "escaped," you've just turned yourself into a vertical buffet.reply
what an amazing doggo!reply
Of course a dog will win the trolley problem by sacrificing itself. Your move, cat people!reply
Two slow moving friends? Even better.reply
And when you turn around to check if it worked, you see me making out with the bear. Your plan worked, just not the way you thought.reply
Touchereply
OMGreply
Darn Kids don’t even know yogi bearreply
They usually steal food from other campers by swinging from treesreply
Bears are afraid of dogs. It could be something to do with wolves.reply
You won’t believe where they go to the bathroom.reply
Only with their friendsreply
There is an acupuncture treatment with a single study behind it. The study claims 96% effectiveness, the doc who practices it here claims 88% effectiveness and anecdotally it has worked on all of the people I know personally who’ve tried it. I haven’t because I’m poor, lazy, and don’t eat much meat anyway.reply
And this is an ailment that goes away after a certain time. So then the person is ÂŤ cured Âť and of course proponents of acupuncture will claim victory.reply
It obviously was a Chihuahua.reply
Every day of their lifereply
Is camping to a bear going into the city? 🤔reply
Possibly, but there’s not really any way to know what would’ve happened without the dog there. We were over a hundred miles from anywhere and the bear looked like an adolescent so it’s possible it had never encountered humans (or dogs) before. Almost every one of my friends in AK has some type of grizzly story but nobody I’ve spoken with has ever heard of a grizzly charging three grown men and a dog at camp. Also, to answer a few others here, it definitely wasn’t a false charge. One friend who is a guide theorized that the bear may have had a fresh kill somewhere nearby and it’s possible it saw us and/or the dog as a threat to its food source. Regardless, I regularly camp with my two dogs and they’ve alerted me to/chased off many threats in the backcountry, including sketchy humans. There’s also no better alarm system while you’re sleeping. At this point I feel much safer in the backcountry with dogs and will always bring them when it’s an option.reply
I saw King Kong before my parents took me to a zoo. I was very disappointed in the gorillas size.reply
for me RMSF was a week long bad flu. not fun, but better than not being able to eat meat for years to lifereply
I had a cat that would try to fight full-grown deer in our field. She was ultimately killed by a fisher cat who, I assume, called her bluff.reply
I have a big poodle who thinks he's a lapdog.reply
Terrible beerreply
I heard they've all hopped onto crypto Used to be yen in my dayreply
Some people recover from alpha gal, at least partially.reply
The National Park Service says this is a very rude thing to do. Tsk.reply
Those are still fine. I occasionally eat some poultry. It's really only the red meats: pork, beef, I think goat and sheep aswell. And really: I barely miss any of it. I'm almost grateful for this thing that keeps me from eating adorable animals. Of course chicken can be adorable too. I'll get there:)reply
Dogs are too brave for their own survival. Bred that way.reply
Yeah but they charge a lotreply
Same.reply
About 1.5 to 2 times as heavy as a regular brown bear, so 300 to 600 kg (660 to 1320 lb). A similar weight as polar bears.reply
I think technically you could eat primate meat tooreply
Well, it's not the number of legs, it's mammals. She can still eat reptiles with four legs if she wants, haha, And fish and seafood, of course. But not whale.reply
So what does that make us?reply
Kinda like the bartender in HIMYMreply
Sometimes it's only red meat. My brother in law has it. Chicken is fine.reply
That's fucking savage. Hell yeah.reply
> more afraid of you than you are of them. unless they want to eat youreply
*black bears are the raccoons of bears* Sounds vaguely racistreply
As is usually the casereply
I hate that the way things have been lately, the conspiracy crowd is right about enough things that I have to seriously consider...reply
Commas exist you know.reply
The fact that this tick is common in Texas of all places is so funny to mereply
And its been spread deliberately by the Gates foundationreply
Freakier? It’s actually probably more than one kind of tick plus other stuff, too—like some internal parasites/worm and even some insect venom. It’s basically linked to different vectors in different countries—so probably happening everywhere but hard to tease apart. But the mechanism is neat. All mammals except a group of primates (including humans) make this sugar. We probably stopped as an adaptation to fight an ancient virus or something—and now it can trigger this immune response. There’s some evidence that people with B blood are less susceptible. Here’s a super recent scoping review but idk why the link is ginormous—sorry [link removed]reply
More specifically it's mammal meat excluding monkeys but I don't believe eating them is ethical.reply
Rat terriers are what chihuahuas wish they werereply
What’s its beef with protein?reply
How is it compare to an Alpha Male ? Does she brag about baking the most delicious cupcakes?reply
Bah, I could probably take out a black bear in an ambush attack from above. Black bears are tiny compared to grizzlies. There's a 50/50 chance I'm gonna outweigh the black bearreply
Okay, Dwight.reply
that's such a nice thing to read.reply
That Grizzly Man documentary Werner Herzog made in the early aughts had everyone annoyed at me for choosing the man instead of the bear, during that whole discourse. After hearing that guy being eaten alive, there's just NO WAY. I'll take my chances with the man.reply
I can see why they disagreed with you, I'm glad you have your own option of that hypothetical, id rather be taken out by a bear than a man because the man would do worse and leave you to live with the pain of what happenedreply
Believe me, I'm all too familiar with the evil that men can do. I was raped for the first time at 15 years old, and endured everything that comes with pressing charges. I did survive that, and worse than that on subsequent occasions. That said, I've met more decent men than monsters, so there's no guarantee the man would even be a bad person, and if he was...I stand a better chance of fighting a man than a hungry Grizzly bear, I've heard audio of people being mauled to death in animal attacks, and its the kind of excruciating pain I'd never EVER want to endure personally.reply
I was shocked when I learned at one point in the 90s, AIDS was the leading cause of death for young people in NYC.reply
Bear power instead of horse powerreply
{scribbling notes} Go on …reply
Go on…reply
Damn, he climbed that thing like a sparkly vampire.reply
I wonder if taking antivirals all the time has some sort of boostreply
The Grizzly 500reply
reduce vision to perception and we may get closer to an answer.reply
What is sonar in bats if not seeing with your ears?reply
I’m so sorry. I wish I could hug you. I grew up in the 80s and know this kind of shame well.reply
I want to see some of these Racing Bear names.reply
When I was getting into medicine I wanted to specialize in Infectious Disease. HAART was really promising and when I went through my rotation every single patient was so grateful and positive. And the medicine was getting better, the side effects more tolerable so people didn't stop taking it as often. There were challenges to come still of course in Injector Disease. Climate Change would bring tropical diseases north into new territories. Some pandemic was on the horizon. But HIV clinic was full of positivity and grateful patients nonetheless. In retrospect of course they were. They were given a death sentence, many had watched their closest friends, entire communities all perish first hand, and they had lived.reply
Bracingreply
also, because you mentioned it, fuck DARE.reply
Our vision developed without eyesite. I believe the prevailing theory is our ancestor evolved sensors that were sensitive to light so they could figure out which way was up and down in the ocean, but it wasn't that they could see light it was that their brain was receiving light inputs. There are still animals that have this ability, they are mostly transluscent and they have optic nerves and what look kind of sort of like eyeballs, 2 pairs of blobs with a little nerve leading straight to the brain. Also one weird thing about eyeballs is they are actually a part of your brain and you can see them. So you can technically see other people's brains. And when you look in the mirror, you can see your own brain looking at itself.reply
It does. I still think about some of those folks.reply
It’s so mind boggling to me that it’s expanding. When I read “The Three Body Problem” it helped me process it more. You seem like you’d like those books if you haven’t read them.reply
I have not read them. I've had them recommended many times. But, my book backlog is already very long...reply
So we should chose a tree too small for the bear?reply
Maybe? But seriously, bears can climb trees faster than most humans can run on flat ground. This video is a black bear, the "nicer" one! [link removed]reply
no way hey are that fastreply
They used Atlas bears which were essentially brown bears.reply
This is beautiful but also female bear sounds so wildly specific that I think she's being sus (I know they're riffing off the previous one, still funny) I think she's writing bearly disguised fanfics in their Bearnet's version of AO3reply
“*I’ve got the bear right here, his name is Tore the ear off clear…*”reply
Forget the terrain; she fucking *gallops* straight up that tree at full speed as if gravity was nothing!reply
The audio says the female is a cinnamon black bear, not a grizzly, and that makes sense given that she doesn't have the typical grizzly hump and she's around the same size as the male black bear.reply
Seriously! I went my whole life waiting for all the free drug offers from strangers and never got any.reply
Also there are blind people who have learned/developed/whatever echolocation abilities & can use it to ride bikes, play basketball, & other seemingly impossible activities for a blind person pretty wellreply
People were TERRIFIED. Nobody knew what could transmit it. It had the same panic as covid, but with finger pointing, blaming, shame and abandonment for anyone who got it.reply
do you have any sources for the connection to "wreck"?reply
There was a mama black bear that got was in a guy's garge in British Columbia and I guess it felt trapped and did rush him. So everyone be aware about your surroundings when encountering a black bear.reply
If we're moving away from it faster than we are being pulled, it's effectively guaranteed that we will never (ever) collide with it, unless something drastic (cosmically drastic) happens, from my layman shitty understandingreply
The George Costanza survival techniquereply
Good, fucking thing is already a glorified idiot.. let's endeavor to make it obvious to our own glorified idiotsreply
The simple bear necessities…reply
Absolutely!reply
They did what?! I'm gonna wipe my butt on that bear!reply
I watched a documentary about polar bears a long time ago, and the only thing I remember from that whole show was a mama bear and her two cubs being stalked by a male bear. All of them were hungry, but only the male bear had eyes on his next dinner. He was just waiting for them to get tired. It is a horrible, horrible memory to have, especially around 3am and I can’t sleep.reply
I'm pretty sure all you all only exist in my head and there is no universe.reply
I think ketamine replaced PCP in the past few yearsreply
Or worse: It’ll just be a void that was more void than the surrounding voidsreply
hreply
Maybe the Great Attractor was the friends we made along the way..reply
Yeah but now we have Plans that do 100% mimicry or none and kinda nothing in betweenreply
That's just not true. Evolution isn't done. It's just we're viewing it on a human time scale, more specifically, the last 150 years or so. In natural evolutionary time scales, that's barely the blink of an eye. It's like taking the manufacture of a car, from raw materials, all the way up to a finished car and only observing the last bit where the badge is put on and going "it hasn't changed much has it?". That and frankly, with the millions of species of plants and animals out there, you can't possibly know every interaction between them all. In all likelihood, there is speciation going on right now, as random genes throw up anomalies that may or may not workreply
Our world is an incredible place. Often when I find myself worried about something I can't control, I look around at the magnificence of nature. I get lost in the variety and beauty.reply
The beauty of the cosmological event horizon is that it means that every single observer really does sit in the exact center of their own personal visible universe 93 billion light years wide.reply
that's the joke I'm making lolreply
It was raised by witches. It sees with more than just eyes.reply
To be fair, humans can out run horses and bears... over long distances.reply
Ehhh... this really isn't true for horses. A fit human can do a marathon. A conditioned horse can do the equivalent of 2 to 4 marathons per day. Good luck finding many people who can do that. The human might spend a portion of the day ahead, but by the end of day one and onwards, the horse will build a considerable advantage.reply
Fly Shadowfax!reply
[everyone has AIDS]([link removed]reply
Thanks for this ahahahaha didn't know it. Love the last out of sync "aids" so much ahahreply
Go watch team America world police. The whole thing is a gemreply
No. Use metformin and you'll have longer than average life tooreply
I used to. but then my Dr. changed and the new one said I didn't need it anymore... still fat AF but somehow my pre diabetes is gonereply
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My simple theory is the Great Attractor is the single point at which the Big Bang occurred and everything will return to eventually. Repeating the cycle in a reborn universe, forever and ever, as it always has been.reply
That would be very surprising considering the cosmic microwave background is observed coming from anywhere/everywhere. The Big Bang does not seem to have occurred at a single point, but rather at every point.reply
There's no single point at which the Big Bang occurred. We see the [echos of it]([link removed] at the furthest edges of the universe and everywhere in between, because that's where the Big Bang occurred: literally everywhere. There's no center that was expanded outward from, so there's no center to return to. It's counterintuitive, but that's the curvature of spacetime for you.reply
Its a cool idea but that goes against everything we know about the big bangreply
The big bang is still happening and doesn’t come from a point in space.reply
The Big bang didn’t occur at a specific point, it happened everywhere (as evidenced by the CMB), and since the expansion of the universe is accelerating (see dark energy), the Big Crunch scenario is unlikely (unless the universe stops expanding but nothing points towards that happening.reply
Cooool, had no ideareply
the cosmic drainreply
My nicknames are getting really out of handreply
What if it's not a Great Attractor that is sorrounded by galaxies, but galaxies being surrounded by The Great Compressor?reply
What's more spooky than that is that there's another source of immense gravity that's somewhere outside of the observable universe. All we can see now is some relative motion of distant galaxies in a certain direction from the Earth and they're all moving towards the same point that's forever outside of detection. We will never know what's out there.reply
Who summoned Atamos?reply
Look deeper for Shapley Attractor...reply
Galactic zone of avoidance is how I'd describe my social life.reply
Yhen the Stanley attractor beyond it, or the dipole. I think this is possibly one of the most profound discoveries that has such little impact on us on our timescales.reply
[Pull harder, mom. I miss you]([link removed]reply
This is almost 3 weeks ago but I had sent this video to my friend and I think you'd appreciate it too! [People think the solar system looks one way... but it's really like THIS]([link removed] It has a clickbaity title but I promise it's not a rickroll. It's basically the solar system moving quickly through space.reply
Incorrect. We're moving away from it, but not as fast as would be predicted by the Hubble constant. 700km/s is not the offset for us, but for the most-affected of the nearby galaxies. There is no observed acceleration in this value.reply
And to quote someone above: "and it isn't just a velocity, it's an acceleration, so we move towards it faster the closer we get to whatever it is."reply
We are pretty sure it is nothing at all, it just is the center of gravitiy of a super cluster. There is nothing special going on.reply
That does make a lot of sense, thank you for the explanation!reply
That cant be true. An acceleration of 700 km/s^2 would get up to a significant fraction of the speed of light in under a year.reply
That's because it's made out of hundreds of millions of stars!reply
Well, more or less. In 2014 the Laniakea Supercluser was (re)*defined* by what is being pulled towards the Great Attractor or not.reply
*We're not hosting an intergalactic kegger down here.* Zed...reply
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!reply
Space keeps making more room everywhere all the time, *and* it might not be finite in the first place. As to where we're going, basically nowhere. The projections are that eventually each small group of nearby galaxies will separate from the others until most of the universe disappears into eternal empty blackness peppered with tiny isolated pockets of matter.reply
The amount of room between it and us is actually increasing faster than we're moving towards it!reply
The universe keeps creating more room, so AFAIK there's no limit to how much more room there can be.reply
Same thing, if they get close enoughreply
Do other galaxies have similar?reply
How do we know we haven't already gone through it?reply
So like cap wielding thors hammerreply
Our simulation is just defragging.reply
Ok, but what if it’s just like…a really really really big black hole?!?!?reply
Wait but it’s impossible for anything to go faster than the speed of light. So how the hell is the Great Attractor moving us faster than light itself?reply
It’s not. 700km/s is peanuts compared to the speed of light.reply
The speed of light is 428x faster than thatreply
There’s a big asterisk on that, though. We now think there’s only a 50% chance for a collision. Which is already a misnomer, there’s so much empty space that most local planets wouldn’t even notice it happened. Local meaning any planet local to our galaxy.reply
> We now think there’s only a 50% chance for a collision. Do you mean in the timeline originally suggested or ever, because my understanding is that eventually the entire local group will coalesce into one supergalaxy.reply
Sounds like something out of the zohan movie.reply
Or the gravity from each of those galaxies, just acting on each other. A pseudo attractor.reply
You know the speed of light is 1, right?reply
> If we get light speed soon We're never getting FTL. Even if it were possible some several million years of technological progress later, we're not the kind of people who can take that kind of long view. I'd be surprised if we make it to the next millenium.reply
Possibly the gravitationl center of multiple galaxies, each of which usually has a black hole at its center.reply
Sounds like it could be the Big Crunchreply
Idk but it'll great!reply
Oh yes, it’s the great atraaaaactor, bringing us all t’geeeeether.reply
Whoa, careful or you'll give Bezos ideas.reply
It's the great plug-hole, a tear in the fabric of reality.reply
They're trying to save a portion of the universe from experiencing the great rip. Should buy them a couple of billion years.reply
Your blood makes noise as it's being carried thru your blood vessels in your entire body, only we can't hear it bc the world is a little bit louderreply
Would a \[hypothetical\] white hole singularity balance it out?reply
Pizza party is coveted as fuckreply
Go on...reply
So yo mamas badonkadonk? /s I’m sorry, I had to. I’ll spend the rest of my day in Reddit jail.reply
The Earth is going around (orbiting) the Sun but ain’t no way the Sun is going around (orbiting) the Milky Way. It is IN the Milky Way. A very, very, very small part of the Milky Way. Please explain your statement because I cannot fathom the Sun orbiting the absolute light years across Milky Way.reply
I suppose I could have been more clear. Sorry about that. The sun is orbiting Sagittarius A*, the center of the milky way. "The galactic year, also known as a cosmic year, is the duration of time required for the Sun to orbit once around the center of the Milky Way Galax" If you want to know more, the link in my comment you replied to is the Wikipedia, which has more information than I would be able to convey to you here.reply
Seems a bit suss that we know of two "great attractor" objects and both just happen to be in line with the galactic plane, and we only know about their existence because the red shift for distant objects viewed above and below the plane isn't what we expect. Like, is this just a sexy name for a couple of not uniquely large galaxy superclusters that we can't see because our galaxy is in the way?reply
>The Great Attractor is a region of gravitational attraction in intergalactic space and the apparent central gravitational point of the Laniakea Supercluster of galaxies that includes the Milky Way galaxy, as well as about 100,000 other galaxies. First sentence of the wiki page. You are very much correct that this is just a super cluster we dont know much about cause it is hard to observe.reply
So does that mean there’s a possibility of the Milky Way and other galaxies in the neighborhood actually revolving around it instead of colliding with it? Sounds like a fun theory. Every thing going around everything!reply
It definitely is.reply
I’m proud to have been the 69th upvote.reply
Is Bigfoot’s dick like a dog’s red rocket or is it like a man’s but furry? I’ve been dying to ask that but I had no one to ask but since you’ve smelled it, I’m assuming you have seen it!reply
> but to where?! Thats the fun part, ✨no one knows✨reply
The question is meaningless.reply
Ayo?reply
I zoomed in, it's your mom's vagreply
We are placental mammals but they are monotremes. Oldest remaining group of mammals. Echnidna is with themreply
I see it used at night while sleeping. My father in law used to do it, but it ended up being more of a pain than just going to the center three times a week.reply
My dad did this for several years until he had to switch back to hemodialysis. It always freaked me out a little when it would pump and drain the dialysatereply
Almost being the word here, I had a relative on PD for a few years and she got progressively sicker over time before finally dying of complications. She wasn't eligible for a new kidney. Still, it gave her a few extra years and being able to do it all at home was a blessing.reply
As a healthcare worker, walking into a patient room and that telltale sticky floor of a PD patient. There was a CCTV video clip out there somewhere long ago of someone pulling into a parking space, getting out and slapping a big bag full of fluid against the concrete, exploding it everywhere, then they get back in their car and drive off. Not an appropriate way of disposing ones dyalisatereply
Didn't you watch the squirrel in "over the hedge"???reply
They sent various sized young animals on road trips and tracked the frequency at which they asked, “Are we there yet.” The mice asked 2.79 times more often than bigger animals.reply
Its nots just size/metabolism either, but also age. Your perception of the passage of time is experienced slower when you are young, and speeds up every year as you age.reply
This also suggests that there are things happening all around us, maybe right in front of us, that we simply can't percieve, because they are too quick. Could be a whole other world if we could suddenly experience 300 hz instead of 65hz.reply
This is only talking about the frame rate of the eyes of different animals. And than they just assume that seeing frame rate is the same as perception of time. Or did I miss something in the linked article?reply
I have these same memories as a teen after my uncle died from AIDS. His kidneys failed, he got gout as a complication of a bad medicine cocktail, and shortly after both his legs were amputated. I felt as if I was taking something that could have been “life saving” to someone else and just throwing it out. Ugh. I’m sorry for your loss.reply
If you knock things off of a shelf, time goes slower for you to catch it.reply
I like to think that this is why we haven't discovered alien life yet. There's tons of civilizations out there, but their signals are all so fast or slow we don't recognize them as signals holding communications.reply
How did scientists come to this conclusion?reply
They didn't. It's not proven and possibly never really will be. We can't even confirm whether or not we experience time the same way among our own species and we have a language to communicate it. Likewise you don't know if you are colours the same way everyone else does. Your eyes get the same signal but how do you know for sure that the brain processes it the same way? What if we all call red red but we actually perceive it differently from each other?reply
How do you know?reply
Mwackreply
And then there's the cat which says "fuck you, mouse!"reply
Cats actually see the world slightly faster than us which makes their hunting skills even more amazing.reply
Could you explain this one? Why would a faster metabolism affect the passage of time?reply
It doesn't affect the passage of time, it affects the perception of time relatively. If you have seen any of the super hero movies that involves someone that moves fast, they pretty much got the general idea right. The faster hero can see the object being thrown or shot at them, they dodge it all slow-mo on the screen, but in reality to anyone around them, they blinked out of the way. Same concept. A fly, the insect, can dodge your hands swinging at them because to them, you're moving like you're stuck in molasses.reply
Is this why my 20s felt like they lasted forever? /sreply
Everything in the universe can experience time at a different rate depending on how fast it's moving and/or how strong the gravitational forces around it arereply
Clearly an alien experimentreply
Resistance is futile.reply
Galactic zone of avoidance - I need to use that when writing employee reviews.reply
Is this all just based on theoretical maths?reply
I feel like ppl should mention that this isnt some mysterious magical sucky space thing. Its the gravity of Our surrounding super clusters like vela and the large scale structure of laniakea. We just cant really picture it or do good measurements because its in the area we cant really see as you mentioned.reply
And it itself is being pulled by yet another attractorreply
> A massive gravitational anomaly that is pulling everything in its neighborhood, including the Milky Way Galaxy towards it This is misleading. Everything in space is in “free fall”, and is not specifically pulled anywhere.reply
The Big Crunch is real then? Kinda?reply
I’m interested in this zone of avoidancereply
Very recently they discovered a new supercluster (Vela) in the zone of avoidance that is one of the largest we know of. While there's no confirmation whether this is related to the GA, GA might as well be another supercluster hidden behind the galactic zone of avoidancereply
I read it that since the universe is expanding, this shit does nothing. Why it freaks u out?reply
Leviathan fleetreply
tl;dr: They found your mom.reply
ITS YO MOMMA Sorry, couldn´t resistreply
>A massive gravitational anomaly that is pulling everything in its neighborhood, including the Milky Way Galaxy towards it at rates of +/- 700km per second. **We have no idea what it is** That's obviously yo' mama!reply
"He thought it was hilarious."reply
Every mammal over 3 kilograms will urinate for the same length of time, 21 seconds on average. [link removed]reply
My daughters favorite animal 🤣reply
I had this assumption when I was a kid and have thought about it a lot - I didn’t know it was already an established thing.reply
It's also possible that there is no attractor, but rather the universe is rotating, and the center of that rotation is outside the observable universe. So we're all heading in the same direction because that's the direction of the rotation; nothing is actually pulling us towards itself.reply
>Milky Way Galaxy towards it at rates of +/- 700km per second. It's pulling the Milky Way towards it at the rate of -700km/s? So, it's pushing it away? --- So OP just misinterpreted the Wikipedia article > indicating that they are receding relative to the Milky Way and to each other, but the variations in their redshifts are large enough and regular enough to reveal that they are slightly drawn towards the attraction. The variations in their redshifts are known as peculiar velocities, and cover a range from about +700 km/s to −700 km/s, depending on the angular deviation from the direction to the Great Attractor.reply
Galactic Zone of Avoidance is going to be the name of my next death metal albumreply
What’s a zone of avoidance?reply
Ooooo did you know we also don’t have anything biologically adhering us to a 24 hour day? A woman who went on a months long caving trip decided to stop using alarms and just start sleeping when she was tired and waking when she was rested, and she tracked the data, and her sleep and wake cycle stretched out HUGELY like she was sleeping and waking for 18 and 24 hours at a timereply
NEATOreply
Someone better invent The Great Repellent before The Great Attractor gobbles us up.reply
but is it a noticeable difference?reply
The peritoneum has lots of small blood vessels like the kidney does so placing the dialysate there it's able to draw toxins out of the blood the same way the kidney does. Unfortunately it's not as fast or as effective as a good kidney but its definitely a great backup. Its an amazing process and I'm thankful for it all the time!reply
Ah, my old nemesis (my nickname in college was The Great Repellant)reply
Prehensile tails to gather nesting material.reply
I wish I had not read this, it made me recall the video of someone smashing open the drain bags in a parking lot.reply
Oh, that makes me feel a little better about the smaller creatures with much shorter lifespans than a human’s. If they’re experiencing life more slowly, then I suppose they’re getting their full life like mereply
It’s actually dark energy that is causing the expansion of space. And you are right, we are actually moving away from the Great Attractor, however that movement is about 700 km/s slower than it would be based on the expansion of space alonereply
So if Im understanding correctly the Dark Matter is still pulling thing away that force is less than or slower that the pulling in from the Great Attractor?reply
There is both dark matter and dark energy and both are completely different things despite the similar name. Dark matter behaves like regular matter in regards to gravity, but is completely invisible and so far undetectable apart from its gravitational influence (basically it's an invisible glue that holds galaxies and larger structures in the universe together). Dark energy is a name for mysterious force that causes the expansion of space. The thing is that the space expands uniformly, so if you have two distant objects and one is 2x farther than the other, due to the expansion of space the farther one moves 2x faster away from you than the nearer one. Otherwise yes, the space between us and the Great Attractor is expanding faster than the attractor is pulling us in. I don't remember the exact numbers, but IIRC we're currently moving away from the attractor at something like 2000 km/s. The most funny thing about the expansion of space is that it is not limited by the speed of light, so the farthest galaxies are essentially moving away from us faster than the speed of light, so the light they emit at this moment will never reach us.reply
And the glowing under uvreply
They also glow under black lights and nobody knows why!reply
Uh, because the universe thought Perry the Platypus was a phenomenal idea but couldn't commit to a full retcon, duh.reply
So, how are they so freaking different? That’s so different.reply
Just gotta ask the animals of course.reply
So, underwater birdsreply
I don't know, could be AI hallucinating againreply
Now I'm convinced they're just Spore creatures, I tend to try and put every ability possible on minereply
Yes excuse me. What the fuck?reply
If they so many sex chromosomes, does that mean there are variations of sexes not just "male" or "female"? Like a platypus could have XY XY XY XX XX and be somewhere in between, so the majority of platypi are their equivalent of nonbinary?reply
wait ok - if the nerve that connects to their electro receptors is the same as ours, does that mean maybe we had that ability in the past?reply
The Laniakea Supercluser is *defined* by things that is moving towards the Great Attractor and what is not. So everything around here (because we are *in* Laniakea) is the supercluster. The Great Attractor is just the most dense volume of space around here.reply
Because we have made observations, not just calculations.reply
Sure, but there are other things we've observed that still have a great deal of uncertainty surrounding them, like the Hubble constant.reply
Are you referring to the Hubble Tension?reply
It didn't *turn out to be* the main gravitational locus of our supercluster. In 2014 our supercluster, Laniakea, was *defined by* being pulled towards the Great Attractor. The volume was redrawn by this definition.reply
Yeah kind of. On smaller scales gravity wins. Galaxies spread out from each other but they will stay together themselves because of all the mass. Everything spreads out but we won't lose touch with the ground because of space is expanding. But. Right now we are moving towards the great Attractor, however space expanding will probably make it so we never get there, since space expansion is accelerating. Think of it as swimming in a river. Our galaxy is you, the Great Attractor is a meatball sub on the shore some ways upstream and you are hungry. But the stream is getting stronger as times goes by (accelerating expansion of space) and eventually the river will run faster than you can swim.reply
No. There are bigger things in the universe. For instance there is the Shapely Supercluser, which is bigger and has an even larger Attractor. The entire Laniakea Supercluser is being pulled towards it. And there are a *lot* bigger structures in the universe. Space is mindbogglingly, mindbreakinly big.reply
Ah, okay. Nevermind then.reply
They also make great secret agentsreply
Clearly a beta species that made it into main by accident.reply
I could learn about them all day! Thank you for sharingreply
They don't do very muchreply
So you're saying the platypus is a descendant of creatures left on Earth by aliens.reply
It almost sounds like they are a keystone species for the entire planet.reply
Correctreply
Oh, lucky!reply
Sounds kinda like the crop in chickens.reply
I was offered that possibility before my transplant. No way I could manage that, specially because I was at my 20s. How can you be 20 and walk around with a fucking drain around? Today maybe... 16 years ago, hell no.reply
To be fair, I wasn't connected to the machine all day, I could be disconnected for 4 hrs at a time between exchanges. But I totally get you! I was 28 and it was a pain in the ass to deal with most days, but it was my only option since hemo wasn't working. Hope you're well now!reply
If you want to ruin it even further, just read the linked article. The zone of avoidance is problem only for observation in visible spectrum, but x-ray observations can see through it. And since around the late 90s we're pretty sure that the Great Attractor is the Norma cluster (+ all the surrounding garbage, making the Great Attractor effectivelly just the center of mass of all these clustered things).reply
Palladium Rifts: *ears perk up in Juicer*reply
Yeah you’re right. Embarrassingly, when I was typing my response last night, I somehow was implicitly wondering if monotremes evolved separately and convergent from birds. I should have at least fact-checked that - I think i was just so blown away from the chromosome tidbits I don’t even think about what I already knewreply
It is not. The percentage of the diameter of the observable universe that a human body makes up is larger than the percentage of a human body that a plank length makes up.reply
Aren't you agreeing with him?reply
No. On the scale of the observable universe, a human body and a plank length are rounding errors. They are both vastly closer to each other than to the universe. It's like saying that a meter is closer to a kilometer than to a picometer, because it takes more picometers to make a meter than meters to make a kilometer. Let's say the average human is about 1.8 meters tall. That means the difference between a human and a plank length is about 1.8 meters. Compare that to the difference between a human and the observable universe.reply
I don't think it really makes sense to apply the word "start" to the universe itself. There is no such thing as starting unless the universe already exists.reply
I reckon we'll be humbled by the intelligence of machines in the not too distance futurereply
Based on the processing power required for the current iteration of AI. And the current people pushing it forward... I do not know for sure we're headed towards any kind of humbling other than how utterly stupid humanity is.reply
I foresee some kind of feedback loop where AI comes up with more efficient approaches and improved hardware designs for itself. The human brain has very low power usage for its capabilities, so there’s nothing inherently power hungry about intelligence. I predict it won’t be too many decades before something with the power requirements and form factor of our smart phones will dwarf our intelligencereply
It’s called The Singularity - the point at which AI becomes capable of developing itself. In theory, once that threshold is reached the rate of improvement could be so quick as to be practically instantaneous.reply
The problem is the machines aren't intelligent now. Its an emphasis change we really need to start making. AI isn't artificial *intelligence*, it is *artificial* intelligence. Its basically hallucinating letters, words, and sentences based on what already exists, not making anything new. If we accept that the definition intelligence is a *capacity* to learn, computers have none. They aren't learning. They are running an algorithm.reply
I would agree with your summary, that’s how I’d sum up the state of the publicly accessible models at this moment in time. For the moment it seems like humans need to be in the loop. We’re thinking machines ourselves, we’re just not exactly sure how our own hardware works or what processes are involved. Are we just running an algorithm? Perhaps the capacity the learn can naturally emerge from simpler processes. Evolution stumbled upon a solution to intelligence, but once we were the smartest species on our planet the selective pressure was off. Like anything that natural selection manages to cobble together, intelligence would not be irreducibly complex. Once we find the trailhead all bets are off. I’m curious (and terrified of) how far intelligence can be pushed when we are solving for that in systems solely designed for that purpose. Systems unburdened by survival instincts, time, hunger, death, emotions and flesh. There’s a chance we’ve already stumbled upon a seed of machine intelligence, but it seems more likely that a fundamental change in the approach needs to happen first. I doubt it’s just a matter of scaling the current approach but what we have now makes finding the next step easier. Either way, I don’t think AI needs to surpass us for the feedback loop to start. Humans can fill the ever shrinking gap in intelligence until the balance is flipped.reply
It is a restriction in the simulation we live in. Zoom in any further and you get matrix style codereply
It's part of the reason why even though I'm not necessarily 100% a Christian, I do think that *something* had to have created the universe. What that something *is*, exactly, I don't know, but I hope we figure out the answer one day.reply
We’ve made great strides in the 20th century. 100 years ago we didn’t know about the Big Bang, which we now know happened. There are still several unanswered questions, but I bet you that in 100 years from now, we will answer many questions, but likely not all. In my personal view I doubt we will ever be able to explain the origins of the universe - what caused the big bang, or whether or not that is a question that even makes sense scientifically.reply
I think of the Big Bang / the universe as a statistical inevitability. It must be, or we wouldn't be around to know about it. Over an infinite amount of time, nothing might happen, or something might happen.reply
Thing is, time doesn't exist without the universe existing. No universe, no spacetime, no time.reply
I bet one or two of them remember Constantinoplereply
Sharks are also older than dinosaurs. By a very wide margin.reply
Zoom... *what* in? How is this energy being used?reply
I also heard the proportion is even more staggering when you count it in the weight of DNA molecules. Human DNA (which ultimately holds the rules for all our bodily processes) is negligible against the amount of bacterial DNA. That's to say we've got some strong genes here folks.reply
Human DNA is a bit below a 100 times as large as most bacterial DNA.reply
And people eat those sharks for fun.reply
They pay rent in the form of whatever it is they do though so it's alrightreply
There are sharks old enough to have not expected the Spanish Inquisition??reply
that's incredible, to live 100 is already something but 500+ years??? Insane..reply
I remember Elon Musk saying that he believes that we are in a simulation because there is a smallest possible unit (the planck length) seems to be able to pixelize the universe, there is a maximum speed in the universe (speed of light), also some quantum physics only actively happens when being observed. We also are pretty much isolated due to the massive size of the universe and the physics involved with being able to visit even the closest planets.reply
Reminds me of that one old movie called epicreply
It's me, Ezio Sharkitore!reply
So the shrimp learned nen and is now using Gon’s jajanken. got itreply
I wonder if they have a memory of old wooden shipsreply
I'm a short skinny human, does that mean I perceive time slower than a bigger human? interesting to think aboutreply
Except the level is pretty close. So when you poop, you are now mostly human.reply
They don't know how old I am They found armour in my belly From the sixteenth century Conquistador, I thinkreply
Do you reckon if we understand and emulated the science behind it, we could improve our technology in fields like mining etc? Cause that just sounds impossible to fathom for something that tiny, if we scale it up it might have crazy potential right?reply
[Greenland sharks]([link removed] are so cool.reply
I've known this for some time but the thought of some particular sailor's nemesis shark outliving him by 500 years and still being out there just filled me with a particularly novel form of dread.reply
Once they evolve lungs we are so fucked. It's like Bruce Lee taking off the training weights.reply
Maybe the universe is a fractal loop; if we could continue to see smaller and smaller, we'd come to a point where we could see small but identical galaxies, small stars, planets, continents... edit to add: we are kinda seeing very similar things on both scales, large and small; planets orbiting stars, electrons orbiting stuff... It all seems very similar, only different in details and scale. If we could stop time, we might see a tiny scientist looking into a microscope. We might even be able to see ourselves looking into a microscope.reply
To think that shark couldve seen nirvana…wild!!reply
No way, send a linkreply
HOTTER THAN THE SURFACE OF THE SUNreply
Isn't the cavitation bubble a product of the pistol shrimp?reply
I always like thinking about the great attractor!reply
We're constantly moving, but as we are not accelerating, it is identical to being motionless. Ahh, relativity.reply
Ha! FACE!reply
Because you are full of WHIMSY!!!reply
Go the other direction I find the micro much more interesting than the macroreply
this may help.. or not. Visualization of the solar system moving with the planets orbiting [link removed]reply
M’ladyreply
Por isso, que tem lendas de tubarĂľes e vulcĂľes sĂŁo irmĂŁos!reply
Happy Cake Day!reply
Thou shalt require a larger carrack, sirrah!reply
Horse shoe grabs as a species have existed since before the 1st tree ever existed, and in fact existed before sharks, but the oldest "animal" is in fact Sponges! At around 800milliin years!reply
Motion is relative so it’s meaningless to say that the galaxy pr solar system moves. That entirely depends on your reference point.reply
Leonardo DaFincireply
But are they younger than the mountains and do they grow like a breeze?reply
Enhance!reply
Sharks are younger than the Appalachian Mountains.reply
Platypus was alpha version of the mammal expansion. There were massive redesigns after, including ditching the whole egg thing, adding milk production, code-clean up for sex determination (getting rid of a bunch of redundancies), and swapping bills with no teeth with a variety of snout options. Unfortunately they got rid of some cool features like the glowing blue thing and the venom.reply
oh is *that* what the eldritch comprehension idea was about?reply
Nah these boys aren’t posh, they’re moldy pee sharksreply
And it’s made of pee!reply
Prevent? Pshhhreply
This whole paragraph is a great explanation of why we need age limits in politics.reply
40% of your weightreply
[No, it's 1% to 3%]([link removed]reply
are trees or the rings of Saturn the older of the two?reply
Also the North Star.reply
Scrolling Reddit.reply
Less than 0.001% of the speed of light in reality. Something akin to 369 km/s relative to the cosmic microwave background (CMB).reply
Not muchreply
What the actual fuck.reply
Whoops, autocorrect.reply
Tenetreply
Nope. [link removed]reply
Thank you for this explanationreply
We will also mutate, both biologically and technologically. So the limits of our current brains aren't the issue. But, to be fair, what we'll become also isn't human either.reply
Its such a hard disease. Rarely do people talk about the depression w/itreply
I wonder if *we* were smaller, we could "see" a smaller measurement than Plancks. Someone else mentioned that time perception changes with size/metabolism of the organism, it stands to reason that if time changes than other things would too. If we were "us", just much smaller, we'd be closer in size to the tiny measurement and thus might be able to "see" things even smaller than we can now. On the flip side though, we probably wouldn't be able to see bigger things as well, and we might not know about stars, or anything beyond our galaxy, if we were tiny.reply
Not really, the perception change isn't a change in time itself, just a perception variance amongst organisms, probably for a number of reasons from latency within nervous systems being lower from shorter signal distances to simpler heuristics. Your brain, and all brains, have a sort of rate of perception where it processes inputs and responses. That said, you could "see" smaller if you were smaller and if the optics were correct, but at the scales of Planck distance, standard optics becomes functionally useless, even our current highest precision measurement instruments and facilities are way below that league, around 15 orders of magnitude above that scale still. That'd be like being able to see a distant star system, and then zooming in to a planet in that system and being able to see a person standing on that planet. But to really get to your point, given our current understanding of physics, no, you wouldn't be able to see distances smaller than Planck's length. As the top level comments said, you get finer resolution from higher energy photons because their wavelength is shorter; at Planck length, any smaller wavelength would have so much energy density that it would immediately collapse into a black hole. That said, if we ever reach the point where we can resolve Planck lengths, clever people could probably find a way to interpolate between two discrete measurements of that distance for smaller than Planck length values.reply
dude I have no idea what you are on aboutreply
This is actually been tested! By having volunteers, in freefall, attempt to read a series of numbers. They all thought they experienced the perception of time slowing down, but they didn’t actually get any more cognitive work done in that time. I suspect it simply forces mindfulness in people who don’t meditate.reply
I'd imagine it is less mindfulness and more "let me process more visual information to detect threats to save my life". Evolutionary adaptation. Brain detects fear, dumps cortisol and adrenaline, vasodilation, heightened perception and more brain power to visual cortex to perceive potential threats. Idk if this is actually how it works but I imagine it is something similar. Then, when recounting via memory, we remember it moving very slowly because we're playing back a 120 fps recording at 30 fps (in our normal homeostatic state). What might be interesting is inducing a heightened state and attempting recall *then*, but I'd bet the state itself interferes with our ability to recall tremendously, because that wouldn't be super important in an actual fight/flight situation.reply
I think of it like your brain normally records at, say, 120 fps, and in these heightened states, it ramps up significantly, so if the playback rate stays the same, then it will feel slower. That’s basically how slow mo works. Record more frames, play them back at the same 30-60 fps that were used to.reply
To continue with that analogy it could be that the memory is recorded at twice the normal framerate so when remembering it you get the impression of slownessreply
Not too long ago, in historical terms, there was no reason to believe anything smaller than an atom was possible. Scientific progress has been discovering smaller and smaller things than that ever since. The fact that we've got no current observations, or even theories, to go smaller than we currently think is possible is noted. But that's often been the case before, and has always been proven wrong before. I'm counting on that trend to continue.reply
To me, you won commenting today! Clearly.reply
Aww. Thank you 🙂‍↕️💛reply
Happy cake day!reply
Speak for yourself, I'm carrying sunscreen all the time, just in case.reply
I mean we wouldn't know when it did happen either, on account of no one being around to have knowledge anymorereply
Well I am not real clear on how sudden the sterilization would be. Like is it like being microwaved where the outside is burnt but the inside is normal temps? Or is it just…flash…we’re dust? Please forgive me. Despite the prophecies this would be my first Armageddon.reply
I mean technically it all depends on how far away it's coming from, but if it's from within the Milky Way, I doubt anybody would figure out what's going on before they were deadreply
That might’ve caused a mass extinction on Earth \~445 million years ago.reply
Seriously. Like you mean to tell me information, music, videos, etc can be transmitted by radio waves(which itself is just invisible light)? I still don’t understand how that actually works.reply
Thats scary afreply
What do you mean by granular?reply
That's fascinating thank youreply
It does until you understand it. I could probably de-mystify it for most people with a 5 minute slideshow. It's still amazing that it works, but it really makes a lot of sense. My favorite factoid was that Hedy Lamarr, the beautiful Hollywood starlet, co-invented frequency hopping, the first widespread form of encryption. It was meant to help protect radio guided torpedos from jamming, but wasn't practical to install. Still, her work was revolutionary, and was a cornerstone for many of the advancements that followed.reply
Yeah, it sounds like space wizardry, but once you grasp the basics it’s actually pretty reasonable. It’s not too hard to understand the idea of resonance, or making something produce “sound”. I’d imagine most people could get a quick crash course on how a radio station broadcast functions and “get” it. I would dare even say that once you know the simple idea, it’s intuitive. The specifics are crazy, but that’s true of a lot of things. It gets wild when the antenna design is dependent on the what else is in the circuit, what material is being used, antenna housing, etc.reply
Her history in that is actually greatly exaggeratedreply
“The universe is expanding It’s flying apart at the speed of light It’s way beyond all understanding At least it’s way beyond mine tonight” **— Different Galaxies, by Too Much Joy**reply
The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding In all of the directions it can whizz As fast as it can go – the speed of light, you know Twelve million miles a minute and that's the fastest speed there is So remember when you're feeling very small and insecure How amazingly unlikely is your birth And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space 'Cause there's bugger all down here on earth - Galaxy Song by Monty Pythonreply
Space… is huge? That’s what you’re gonna open with? Ho-lee — Shoresyreply
That doesn't make any sense unless the ants have a way of knowing their genetic match with all other ants.reply
Well, this is in bees, which are actually quite poor socialites on the scale of Hymenoptera (there are no solitary species of ant for example, while 90% of bee species are solitary). I believe how it works is they look for queen specific chemical markers and if an egg doesn't have them, nom nom nom. However, you've mentioned ants and therefore triggered my infodump mode. They are ridiculously smell orientated. Just to give you an idea of how good their sense of smell is, [*Atta texana* is so sensitive to it's trail pheromone, that 1mg would be enough to leave a trail 3 times around the planet]([link removed] Yeah, you know a pill you take for headaches? 1/500th of that. Yeah, ants look at a blood hound and wonder how they function with such a poor sense of smell. I'd argue their chemo-receptive abilities are unmatched in the animal world. Anyways, they're incredibly sensitive and the cuticular hydrocarbons act like a chemical ID card. It's quite difficult to fool an ant's sense of smell, but some parasites do manage it. We aren't entirely sure how. There are butterfly species, who's larvae mimic ant larvae and get taken into the nest and looked after.reply
With evolution, they don’t need to *know* per se. If an ant helps her nieces incidentally, there’s a good chance that more ants are created that are more related to that original ant, which then selects for the behavior that results in them incidentally helping their nieces. Eventually over the eons, those statistics result in the behavior becoming “intentional” and the sorts of colony structures we have nowreply
Okay, remember those weird water-filled balloon toys from childhood? Looked like a latex burrito or long tube, maybe 5 inches, and everyone made sex and flashlight jokes about it? Okay, so picture one of those, but short and fat like a donut, a water-filled balloon donut. The glazed side is rotating outward from the center, towards the sides, while the unglazed side is rotating inward towards the center (then back up and around to the sids and so forth). For a very long time. That’s it, that’s our universe. A middle school sex donut.reply
I was thinking the same thing. In reality we don’t know if that scene is fictionreply
This statement doesn’t explain anything. I’m not sure what you’re trying to sayreply
Distances between things are getting bigger, but nothing is movingreply
How are you sure of that?reply
We've looked, everything in every direction is moving away from us at a speed directly correlated with how far away they are. Not most thing, not almost all things, every single object not bound to us with gravity is only moving away. If we had looked at 5 thing and they all happened to be moving away from us we could think that's a coincidence but we looked at billions of things and they all are, in exactly the same way, moving away from us. AND EACH OTHER! We can pick anything as the centre as, our stationary, object and it's exactly the same from their point of view. Why spacetime is doing that? We don't know, but we call it "dark energy".reply
Oh I’m aware of that but are you aware of Hubble tension. The makeup of the universe given by the lambda-cdm is based off of observations by a few sources and those sources disagree and this tension is getting worse. We are certainly observing galaxies further away accelerate even faster away but the reasons for that are still up for grabs.reply
Just be aware they dark energy isn’t what was claimed above. Expansion didn’t and doesn’t need dark energy, and was in the model long before.reply
No. Dark energy is responsible for *accelerating* expansion, not expansion itself.reply
There is no meaningful difference between the two. As far as general relativity goes, expansion is things moving away from each other. It doesn’t explain it beyond that.reply
Secondarily, theoretical physics and most of what we know about the universe is basically just statistics. We take stuff we observe, and people calculate the probability that this or that is the reason for the observation. It's basically blind men trying to describe a blue whale by analyzing one part of it and reaching a consensus opinion. I am not educated or anything, this is just one idiot's opinion looking in from the outside.reply
I like the surface of a balloon analogy.reply
But the balloon is expanding into the space around it.reply
In the visible universe, there is estimated to be as many stars as there are grains of sand on our earth.reply
Into itself. Maybe from the 'outside' it's staying the same size but increasing in resolution, it would look the same to us.reply
That’s why people invented religions. Our minds aren’t built to handle such things. The mere question of why the universe exists should drive us mad. Because what if there weren’t one? After all, nothingness can only be defined or even perceived if there is something.reply
I believe there is no end. I do not believe in the big bang and have not for years. No, I cannot debate anyone on the topic. I believe what I believe and I honestly believe that everyone that believes now in the big bang will be treated like flat earthers in 1000k years.reply
Doesn't have to be into anything. It's expanding into itself. The space between things is getting bigger. There is no "outside" when in relation to the universe. It doesn't make sense. Just like the idea of a "before" in relation to the beginning of time doesn't make sense. Or the concept of actual nothing. But yeah, these are all kind of just semantic framings. Our brains are not capable of comprehending a beginning of time because a beginning implies a before to us which also doesn't make sense. And the idea of nothing when even space is something is beyond comprehension.reply
It's just expanding. The concept of "nothing" doesn't exist beyond the bounds of the universe.reply
Pete Holmes understands your plight. [[link removed]reply
Nothing is something we struggle with a lot!reply
someday everything will fade into nothing, no light and everything will disappearreply
This is why *Aniara* had me fucked up! That ending gave me an existential crisisreply
Literally the terror here is like. How religions are formed and broken. The universal human experience of “AHHHHH SPACE BIG” is just as fascinating to me as the space itselfreply
The first time I saw Bluetooth sending an image from one phone to another, it twisted my melon man. What is this Willy Wonka magic?!reply
"endlessness is expanding" That makes. no Fucking. Sense. Shoutout to Pete Holmes.reply
Think of space expanding more like the surface of a balloon as it blows up, rather than *into* empty spacereply
But a balloon i’s expanding into the space around it. That’s what’s messing with my head because what is space expanding into?reply
Yeah, that's the mind fuckreply
You wouldn't want to put it in a tubereply
You're not gonna believe me when I tell you that if you zoom in far enough things are also moving damn near the speed of light ETA: And if you stare close and long enough you'll see something create and subsequently, simultaneously destroy itself.reply
Just gravity and the curvature of space time making everything go round and round. Why does that freak you out?reply
It's the factor not added to the time travel equation. The machine will send you back 100 years, to a place in space elevnty billion miles away from where earth was.reply
Monty Python had a little dirty about this very fact.reply
r/unexpectedhitchhikersreply
Unsubscribe.reply
i can't think about it without feeling so much happiness i start to think im ascendingreply
You can add layers to it the other way, too. Walking on a train or plane that's in motion for example. Your blood cells traveling through your body.reply
Thing that gets me is this. If the solar system were rotating in the same plane as the galaxy, the Milky Way would be around the horizon at night. But it's not, which means we're streaming through space with our south pole first.reply
Whenever life gets you down, Mrs. Brown, and things seem hard or tough, and people are stupid, obnoxious or daft, and you feel that you've had quite enough... . Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving, and revolving at nine hundred miles an hour. That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned, a sun that is the source of all our power. . The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see are moving at a million miles a day in an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour of the Galaxy we call the Milky Way. . Our Galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars. It's a hundred thousand light years side to side. It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick, but out by us it's just three thousand light years wide. . We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point. We go round every two hundred million years, And our Galaxy is only one of millions and billions In this amazing and expanding Universe. . The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding in all of the directions it can whizz. As fast as it can go, at the speed of light you know, Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is. . So remember when you're feeling very small and insecure how amazingly unlikely is your birth. And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, because there's bugger all down here on Earth.reply
Wait'll you realize that there's no continuous wire that connects you to the power station. There are many gaps. There's even a gap or two within your computer itself.reply
I used to work in RF and I think I can explain it! It’s just like speech. So in RF communication, all you’re doing is changing a radio wave in certain ways that the receiving end’s equipment can translate into 1s and 0s. You’re modulating (changing in some way) a carrier wave (the generated signal) in a similar way to you modulating the sounds that come out of your throat to make words. The ways you change those waves make them carry information. It’s the same, just with machines and not people. You can think of an unmodulated signal as just opening your mouth and going AAAAAAAA lol The black magic fuckery comes in when you start talking about specifics like error correction and beam forming and whatnot Also, you probably COULD throw some wires in a box and make an antenna. HAM people especially get REALLY hung up on antennae. I’ve seen people make inter-continental contacts using a ladder as an antenna.reply
hahahh that made me laughreply
In Space Engine, start form Earth, visit a couple of other star systems within our galaxy. Unless you were taking notes, and very good notes, there's no way you'll find your way back home. And you didn't even leave our galaxy.reply
It’s less that it’s expanding, and more that the gaps between things are getting biggerreply
I honestly think that made things worse for me. There has to be something on the inside and outside of the basketball. Some sort of medium that the universe is expanding into. I know it doesn't matter for most of the thought applications, but if you actually put a minute into it.....there has to be something right?reply
[link removed] > The expansion of the universe is the increase in distance between gravitationally unbound parts of the observable universe with time.[1] It is an intrinsic expansion, **so it does not mean that the universe expands into anything or that space exists outside it.** It's weird to think of, but for now the assumption seems to be that there's nothing outside, and the space itself is expanding.reply
So wild lolreply
I totally get it. It's so hard to grasp.reply
I don't understand, the surface area of a ball doesn't have any end but that assumes you're travelling along the surface. If you're travelling from the inside towards the outside, the surface of the ball is the boundary/end is it not? Otherwise the analogy doesn't make sense, or maybe I'm stupidreply
In this analogy, the surface of the ball represents the entire universe, just in 2d instead of 3d. There's no inside or outside (since in the analogy the whole universe is just 2d), only the surface. If you've played video games, you might be able to imagine a game map that doesn't have actual borders but instead when you go far enough in one direction, you eventually find yourself back where you started. Now, try to imagine that the entire universe is curved. It can be finite but without any border where it ends. Now, I'm not claiming that the universe is necessarily curved like that. I'm just trying to help understand the balloon analogy.reply
For a brief moment I thought I was going to read a space-ified version of the Unidan copy pasta. Old reddit definitely put a little rot in my brainreply
Everyone needs to stop with the balloon analogy. Space is three dimensional, a balloon's surface is (sorta) two dimensional, it doesn't make sense! (To me, at least)reply
Yeah, that's exactly why we use an analogy, because high dimensional space is not something our brains can handle very well.reply
You can picture it like a woman i'd like to date. It's massive and has a black holereply
Ah just trying to share existential dread.reply
Have you ever seen a super nova?reply
My life motto.reply
But a balloon is only expanding relative to our reference point i.e. the world outside of the balloon. We can observe a balloon expanding by referencing measurements in the world outside it i.e. a tape measure. If a balloon is expanding into nothing with no reference points is it really expanding? My brain hurtsreply
The reference points are other galaxies getting further away. Put dots on the balloon and then blow it up, as it expands any given dot moves away from every other dot.reply
The balloon analogy concerns only the surface area of the balloon, not the inside or outside of it. The surface of the balloon represents the entire universe.reply
Yes yes, but when you’re visualizing a balloon from the outside perspective, you can see what’s “around” the balloon. When you visualize a balloon expanding from “inside” the balloon, you can’t see what it’s expanding into and thus it’s easier to pretend there’s nothing there at allreply
but WHEN are they going to get there!? to Boldygo. I wanna see the planet Boldlygo, dammit! no one has ever gone there before!!!!reply
> The balloon expanding part is irrelevant puffery. It's useful for explaining the universe expanding and everything getting more distant. Mark dots on the surface of a balloon and blow air into it, and all the dots will get further and further away from each other.reply
Literally no. Gamma rays, by definition, cannot microwave anything.reply
Microwave was used figuratively in my post.reply
Came here to find this answerreply
CJD SCARES MEreply
Thanks for that.reply
Enjoy it.reply
Will we even know *when* it happens?reply
🤷🏻‍♂️reply
Frightening stuff. Can't be autoclaved. Anything in contact has to be incinerated. Absolutely no cure.reply
If we could be so lucky.reply
This, it makes me shiver honestly. Boom, everyone and everything cooked.reply
Jokes on them, I’m already sterile!reply
I read a couple years ago that most people are probably immune from prion diseases. Additional research, of course, still needs to be done regarding this.reply
>just bends the wrong way And everything goes wrong. That's what it's like turning 35reply
so the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon, little boy blue and the man in the moon...reply
Almost as insidious as the Macarena.reply
The infamous protein Harlem shakereply
I literally was just watching a veritasium video on that today! What was so interesting about that is a similar thing happens to chocolate when heated, however if you’re careful you can revert it back to the original class. This drug wouldn’t revert no matter what they didreply
Fuck it’s prions all the way to the top.reply
>On a larger scale, the entire universe as we know it might be in a false vacuum. If a lower energy level is possible, physics as we know it could start unraveling at the speed of light. Read a Book recently about this. Story startet with some stars disapearing. I guess thats a real cosmic horror.reply
I don't know if this applies to all prions, but the prion that causes chronic wasting disease in deer can be killed by the digestive systems of mountain lions, who apparently prefer to eat deer who have the disease.reply
\+1 things to worry aboutreply
I’m sorry, I’m actually chicken little.reply
We're all just complex sets of Magnastix, folks, that's all.reply
like, sexual sterility, or everyone's fucken *dead*reply
Yes.reply
Yes.reply
Love this mentalityreply
> But the prospect of any sort of FTL being possible also means that the universe isn't strictly causal any more, and we've also invented time travel, because they're the same thing. This is the hard proof that FTL is NOT possible. Some people fail to grasp that reality is constrained. Just because we can think of something doesn't make it possible. FTL being one. "What if some technology": no. "What if some advanced species": no. "We don't know all physics": no. It's not, never has been and never will be possible outside of fiction. Some people still can't let it go for some reason.reply
This is taking the “Laws of physics” as if they are actual laws, and they aren’t. We don’t *know* they never change, we assume it. We don’t know they are the same everywhere in space and time, we assume it. You insisting that you know it’s not possible doesn’t make that *true*. Here’s Sabine Hossenfelder on a way that FTL communication might work: [link removed] with an answer to Bell’s Theorem criticisms included.reply
Yeah, agreed. I mean, I don't _want_ to let it go either. And I'm sure someone will be along any minute to say something about Alcubierre drives or similar (which whilst 'solves the equation' relies on things that may very well not exist like 'negative mass'). But no matter how you frame it, anything faster than light _also_ means we don't have a strictly causal universe, and that's something that ... could be very unfortunate.reply
Wow. Why am I reading this when I have insomnia?! 😱☠️reply
> we won’t know until it happens I hate this part because I won't have time to celebrate :(reply
False: we would never know it because it would be too fast. One second you’re turning right onto a street, the next it’s just space dust.reply
We likely wouldn't have the time to know when it happens because we would all be dead at the speed of light lol We would be and then we would not be. All at oncereply
This is incorrect and ignores everything we've learned about atoms in the last 80-100 years.reply
[[link removed] The planetary model that most people reference when saying an atom is "Mostly empty space" is an oversimplified version meant to help understand the basics. The electrons aren't in fixed orbits and act more like waves moving around the nucleus. We only know the areas the could probably be in and it takes some really expensive equipment to track where they are.reply
NO thank youreply
We also have a bunch of gene edited HeLa, but mostly I work with another 10-15 cell lines from other cancer tissues (all different donors). HeLa are popular for their story but actually just one out of thousands of models out there.reply
Even more fun... They are incredibly stable in the wild and will even survive autoclave sterilization! You have to submerge them in super concentrated bleach for like an hour to make them fall apart.reply
I beg your fucking pardon???reply
I thought the biggest problem was that it completely destroys the ozone layer.reply
I regret not doing this. So many great stories lost.reply
sort of already exists; [link removed]reply
Good news everyone [link removed]reply
I'd say the rabies virus is already like 90% therereply
I mean, kuru was a thing.reply
Not a very compelling argument.reply
Someone has a similar YouTube feed to me!reply
I just watched the Veritasium video on this yesterday. Crazy stuff.reply
Borked, you say?reply
Completely and utterly.reply
Correct on both countsreply
Yes i think too much about thisreply
Prion diseases are very slow diseases because of how they infect the brain. It would be way too slow for it to get a foothold in our population. Due to the slow progression, we'd be able to notice the symptoms before it got out of control and isolate those people.reply
Disappearing Polymorphs - [[link removed]reply
But who would consume a zombie(/prion) brain? Normally it's the other way around. I don't see how that could possibly cause an apocalypsereply
Fortunately prions kill the host really fast (after developing symptoms) because they don't care if the host is alive. There's no time to become a zombie. The zombie apocalypse will come from a virus that wants you to be alive to spread, but only "sort of" alive.reply
Prions for presidentreply
Rabies derivative more likely no?reply
I never heard of it until I watched a veritasium video on YouTube last weekreply
> Some people argue that prion disease would be the most likely cause of a zombie apocalypse. Who are these people arguing about the most likely cause of a zombie apocalypse?reply
Things like the conjecture that our universe is a collision of higher dimensional membranes that could hit some limit at any time creating a "great rip" where all of time and pace unravels either at the speed of light or even instantly everywhere in a phase change type event have always wrinkled my brain.reply
That's the key flaw in most zombie outbreak movies. The zombie urge makes you want to eat human flesh, or sometimes specifically human brains. But that's also how you pass on the virus or prion or whatever. But then the person you just passed it on to is either eaten or at least damaged to the point its not really much of a threat.reply
>Ritonavir suddenly started crystalizing into Form II and became all but impossible to synthesize in Form I. I thought this was a protein folding thing similar to prions, but it is actually a crystal structure thing. It is more similar to how a chocolate bar that melts isn't quite the same; chocolate has six or seven crystal forms that a skilled chef can produce in a kitchen. Veritasium just did an excellent video on Ritanovir. The drug actually kept working, it just stopped dissolving in pill form. They stopped production of pills and started shipping an injectable form, which was inconvenient but patients were able to continue treatment. Many crystal forms act as seeds that cause the rest of the material to adopt that particular crystal structure, but Ritonavir *strongly* seeds crystal structure.reply
Vonnegut had a novel that supposed there was a form of ice ("[ice-nine]([link removed]") that could from at a very high temperature, and therefore would not melt under normal conditions on earth. If you have a small sample of the crystal and drop it into water, the water will add on and also freeze as ice-nine, so even a tiny crystal could cause a chain reaction to freeze all water on the planet.reply
When reached for comment, health secretary RFK Jr said “I I b b b b belieee ee eeve it”reply
Including neuroscientists - who do think of such things…reply
Which country? That's bizarre.reply
Australiareply
But like neither can many toxins, no? You can’t think of it as poison (that converts to more poison)?reply
I mean, that's basically what rabies *is*, right? It just doesn't affects humans in that way...yet.reply
“We need more pylons”reply
Cordyceps meets rabies.reply
I think it’d be a rabies variant.reply
A slow burn zombie story would at least be novel. Takes decades.reply
I do weigh the same as a duck, as it happensreply
Could be helpful for structural biology and subsequent drug discovery maybe?reply
I was thinking The Last Of Us, but I never got around to playing the modern RE games. The last one I played was RE5, which made me wish I had stopped at 4. I've only heard great things about 7 through 9 though so I really need to get back into themreply
Nooooo …. It can’t be 🫨reply
The last of us. Cordyceps are already real.reply
Doesn't rabies make you want to infect others?reply
From what I understand, it makes you more aggressive/more likely to spread it via saliva due to aggression.reply
That, and, "Bomb."reply
It's cable theory and I just invented it!reply
My dude, that's just working 9 to 7 jobsreply
[Relevant]([link removed]reply
Yup. Most of the adverse symptoms of meth use comes from this type of lack of sleep, not the meth itselfreply
That’s terrifying!reply
This has already caused problems in aviation. [link removed]reply
Those wouldn't have been neutrinos.reply
I mean, it's extremely unlikely to make us go extinct, we're greenifying in big parts of the world (whether people want it or not) and there are backup plans if things heat up a lil too much. We also don't know exactly when things will go to shit on which ways. There's still a good bit of unknown there, especially as studies constantly come out updating our previous hypotheses on what would occur.reply
I know a lot of posts online say that, but "the point of no return" isn't really a thing in reality. There are a lot of "point of no return" that you can define in different ways. Giving up and saying "nyeh its too late" is with all due respect just stupid. Greenifying will still massively reduce the future impact of climate change, buy us more time and will make it easier to fix things later on.reply
Seems far fetched. How?reply
Poison bad for healthreply
Source?reply
Trust me broreply
I’ll believe you, over someone’s dead body.reply
IIRC we've gotten lucky for a long time that a fungus hasn't taken a liking to the climate our bodies provide.reply
Exactly, the very few fungi that can make it to the inside of the body are incredibly hard to treat and often very serious conditions.reply
This is the answer. We are prions bitches. All this medical advancement, and the nanosecond a prion acts up? Throw it all out. You’re done.reply
Gee thanks for that depressing read.reply
Just wait till you hear about chronic wasting disease! Currently running its way unchecked through the trendy alternative proteins!!reply
I keep saying that they should make more horror movies about them.reply
Scarier still, prions are naturally occurring in our bodies, we use them in biological processes, just not normally the ones that cause disease.reply
so… your name is Prion?reply
There's this thing where crystals find a lower energy state and then you can't recreate the old crystal formulation without starting it in a place where the low energy formation doesn't exist. [link removed] They had this HIV drug that just stopped working so set up an entirely new factory in a different country but sent some people to see what was different and because they had trace amounts of the new lower energy crystal formation on them, the new factory became contaminated and couldn't produce the original form. [link removed]reply
And they can be idiopathic. Like the proteins in your body can just start misfolding all on their own randomly one day.reply
The VP of HR at my work died from a Prion disease. 6 months from the time they realized what was happening to her until the time she died, and from what I was told, it wasn't pretty.reply
Giant meteor or devastating solar flair 2028! Vote 🗳️reply
How did she lose control of her mind? I always thought Parkinson's came with a normal life expectancy and didn't affect the mind. This is a terrifying revelation.reply
She was diagnosed with supranuclear Parkinson's. It is a very aggressive form of the disease. She had manic and dementia related episodes regularly about a year after diagnosis.reply
Why do you think that?reply
Nuclear War and the Climate Apocalypse definitely will do it firstreply
Climate change is a serious problem which could lead to nuclear war.reply
Equality demands that we find a way to give blind people schizophrenia.reply
Did you eat it?reply
I'm still alive, so no.reply
that's absolutely horrifyingreply
That's not the same as being wiped out as a species. Population collapse will be mitigated by technology.reply
Technology is causing itreply
Imagine being the first physician to treat a castrated fella with a hernia.reply
Imagine a sleep paralysis demon doing sign language to youreply
he cant just see the issuereply
I read a book by a recovered schizophrenic about her experience and was less scared of them afterwards. I was at a convenience store and this guy was there clearly in the midst of a delusional episode. I started talking to him. He was tickled by the way people kept staring at him. “It’s like I’m a celebrity,” he told me.reply
Exactly. But there are a couple that can survive internally that are extremely dangerous and they're very hard to treat.reply
I knew a woman deaf from birth who said she heard voices, which led to her schizophrenia diagnosis. I don't know if it was the same perception of hearing that we would have though. It may have been after she got hearing aids, so she would have had some type of hearing.reply
\*correlation for castrationreply
Staaaaaaapreply
No by me Me me me me me mereply
Oh fuck I laughedreply
I remember that tooreply
I hope I remember this comment… photographically.reply
Laughed way too hard at this (as someone who's allowed to...ahem).reply
What?reply
Look, say what you want about deaf people…reply
Don't worry, the other three things of the four you listed probably can get the job done without prions. <sighs> Also, it's a small portion of the population that's immune. If a large scale outbreak happened fast enough (unlikely), before a response could be implemented, prions could whittle our numbers down to the point where the remainder just died off on their own. Especially if the timing were to be compounded with a different natural disaster.reply
Think again, blind person here lolreply
Oh yes they will :.|| ..: ::|reply
All prion diseases are the PrP protein misfolding. Its only that one. The symptoms are different depending on which part of the brain is most affected.reply
The Grateful Dead's publishing company is called Ice Nine Publishing Company.reply
Do they hallucinate a whole person walking up and making them? Disembodied hands? Just an impression?reply
Been many other viral videos about itreply
We can do better, but there are significant human obstacles.reply
Yeah one guy who learned to do that was teaching blind kids to do it too! The only issue is you can’t let the parents stay when you do it. They can’t seem to stop trying to intervene and then the kid relies on them instead of their own developing navigation skills. It’s hard for parents to step back and allow that to happen. I heard a radio program about it and they interviewed the guy My husband is blind and the rough thing about being blind seems to be that the culture tends to want to try and keep you safe rather than give you access to grow and learn. Most blind people don’t have any other disabilities, so they have the capability and desire to learn just like anyone else, as long as they are able. Most barriers to that are surmountable, but the culture’s tendency to overparentalize often means a lack of access. By the time blind people become adults they are often undereducated and lack curiosity and confidence because they’ve not had the same access to education and opportunities. Over 70% of blind adults are unemployed due to these factors.reply
Yea think it was on web md. I have a family member with schizophreniareply
many of them die young because they take their own livesreply
That’s sad. We need better universal healthcare for mental health in the U.S. I looked at some info and it states cardiovascular problems, hypertension, diabetes, obesity, and lack of preventive care causing early death. Homelessness was big factor too.reply
I've heard some stories by medical professionals of dogs acting in a manner that would suggest they have it but i have zero idea if there's been research on it beyond anecdotes. I'll have to search it up because it's a fascinating topic.reply
Great vivid description on your part as well! Definitely a more intense if otherwise nearly identical experience. We are quite lucky it was just a temporary error in our brainmeats rather than a semi-permanent loss of insight as in schizophrenia, hahreply
Truck-kun never sleeps, there are worlds to save/destroy and demon lords to defeat/seduce!reply
I'm asshole deaf. Luckily, not asshole mute!!reply
My screen reader just says " unpronounceable" for all of this just FYIreply
What, Dr. Acula can't talk to some of his colleagues all night outside of people'sn rooms?reply
It said “unpronounceable symbol”reply
Serious? Hahahaha. Unexpected! (But not really!)reply
Wouldn't Ludicrous Pressure inevitably come with Ludicrous Temperature too? If the dangerous polymorph of H2O forms under pressures (and presumably temperatures) not found on Earth, is it even possible for H2O to remain in that configuration under lower pressure and temperature? I suppose this is yet another candidate for the Great Filter: if our planet, possibly our solar system, is not yet infected with Vonnegut Ice-Nine (which would be real world ice-19 or whatever), then either a seed crystal of H2O getting in via Oumuamua would wipe us out, or our own dumb technological curiosity would wipe us out.reply
> If the dangerous polymorph of H2O forms under pressures (and presumably temperatures) not found on Earth, is it even possible for H2O to remain in that configuration under lower pressure and temperature? Yes, that's the crazy thing! Some polymorphs form in weird conditions, but are actually more stable than the default. Plus they can "infect" other materials. It is plausible (though... not probable) that water could have a crazy polymorph like super stable high pressure ice, that stays stable as it comes back to standard pressure/temp (or switches to a different stable polymorph) and seeds more of that type of ice forming. That could be an ice that is more dense than water, completely fucking up our ecosystem (no more ice caps, bottom of the ocean gets filled up instead, less heat reflected etc etc). Also, the high temperatures we associate with high pressure happen because things get hot *as they are put under higher pressure*. They just take a while to cool down. A really old planet (like, early universe) could be cold(ish) while still having those high pressures and completely different chemistry going on inside.reply
What keyboard app y'all using for all that?reply
It's obviously the flush handle on a toilet.reply
Lyrics in reddit comments are the most annoying, unfunny thing yet you’ve found exactly the one to spin it into comedy gold.reply
"Blinded. For my mental health."reply
It's not that crazy if you know a little about ancient Egyptian culture and theology.reply
Wangdongsreply
Whoa! Source please?reply
You can start in Wikipedia :) [link removed]reply
Thank you!reply
source would be dope to readreply
You can start in Wikipedia :) [link removed]reply
rad, that's really interesting. it's wild to think about all the luck we had in getting to be where we are (not that where we are is 'great' but I'm happy to be here)reply
And this is why quantum theory hurts my brain. I always have more questions than answers. I don't think I'm smart enough for it.reply
Toba thing ?reply
I don’t think this is scary. I think it’s sad for the planet that we did make it.reply
That is a great video! Jim Al-Khalili actually authored the Ladybird Book of Quantum Mechanics, which is a great read for laypeople like me into getting some sense of the field. It's worth it for the [skiing illustration]([link removed] alone!reply
Interference from any will definitely twist your brain 🥹🥹reply
And then they flew the Galactica into the sunreply
The double-slit experiment I don't mind so much. It's the [delayed-choice quantum eraser]([link removed] that keeps me up at night.reply
i was gunna post this one and kept looking through the comments to find it. mind blowing and makes you realize how little we know about how things actually work, which honestly puts all the other answers in the post into question. this may be the only true answer to the postreply
Especially quantum erasers. That broke my brain.reply
This gives me weird hope for endangered species. :)reply
I don't remember the exact details, however if you run a double slit experiment and change the observation/non-observation in the middle of it. The results show up instantly. Which means the information travels faster than the speed of light.reply
lmao so truereply
So, we’re like all kinda related?reply
Can you share a link to that reference? I’d like to read it. Thanks!reply
I'm ... reluctant to do so as it leads right back to my real name. Poke around the net a bit, but I've already kinda exposed myself a bit here. Like anybody really cares, but still.reply
As a Douwd, shouldn't you have been the first to know this?reply
I'm gonna be honest, I probably shouldn't have thought too hard about Neanderthals back then. Screw it - they were dicks, you should be thanking me.reply
When I was a kid (and I'm sure many other kids had the same experience) I was told the story of David and Goliath. With very little extra mechanical force (some twisted plant fibers) we can accelerate a pebble with enough force to explode someone's head. With enough training we can sharpshoot with them. Besides warfare we primarily used these devices for scaring off predators from our livestock. Humanity is the gimmicky faction based around ballistic weapons but by God we've mastered them.reply
You're vs yourreply
It's less about being seen and more like in order to capture the strength of a punch, you need to put something in front of it to measure. This means you can't measure the punch without interacting with it. It seems like that, but maybe there's no alternative to measuringreply
Not much consolation to us if we didn't make it, though.reply
This was fun to read. Thank youreply
That time when God popped into existence for some three seconds, and hasn't returned since.reply
You have a pot of soup on the stove, and you want to know its temperature. You reach for your thermometer, but sticking that in there will change the temperature of the soup. You go for your IR thermometer instead, because it has no direct physical interaction with the soup. Alas, it's absorbing radiation that otherwise could have reflected back into the soup, changing its temperature. This realization terrifies you, because not only do you absorb the radiation coming off the soup, you also emit it! How can you possibly know the condition of your soup? Is it hot enough? Does it even exist? Does that sound rational to you?reply
I’m not saying I have a great grasp on the polarisation paradox, but I’ve seen another video which explained it in terms that didn’t break my brain at allreply
Planet of the Apes was a warningreply
Imagine taking the tire pressure, but the tire is really small and doesn’t hold a lot of air. When you press the gauge to the stem it lets air out to measure it, but when you let air out of the tire, the pressure is lower than before you measured. It’s a similar problem, there’s no way to measure something that small except with something that influences the measurement.reply
Yes! This was my understanding as a layman. It took a few dozen times listening to understand that. I've probably watched 50 YouTube videos on quantum entanglement before that clickedreply
No, apes do train throwing rocks at trees, predators and visitors. We know what they do when you take away the stonesreply
I love the way you write. It reminds me of Terry Pratchett, Ian Stewart and Jack Cohen's Science of Discworld series.reply
Probably because intelligent beings are more likely to wipe out themselves because of petty reasons like borders & moneyreply
We're actively observing the event, we have to interact with the world to perceive it. We do not exist in a vacuum where existence happens around us, we are an active part of that event and inherently affect it.reply
You don't have to do anythingreply
Weren't they PHISICALLY counting the atoms going through the detector? You can't say it has NOTHING to do with looking in the physical sense because just like all of us here you have no idea. It has nothing to do with scale and everything to do with the atoms behavior. We are counting atoms in this experiment, that's as small an observation as we could ever make. Why does the physical behavior of the atoms change just by them being counted? Why, when we know that we are counting specific particles, do they behave like a wave when they aren't measured?reply
When I say looking I mean as in a person using their eyes to look. If you want to get technical you can argue that a measurement is a way to look at something, but my point is the common misconception about this whole concept is that things behave differently whether or not a human being is looking at them with their eyes. Which is not at all the case. It does have to do with scale. It’s virtually impossible for large objects to be in superposition due to quantum decoherence.reply
It at least shows that consciousness/observation has an observable effect on the behavior of the physical world. That alone brings up more questions than it answers.reply
Consciousness has nothing to do with it. An "observation" is any physical interaction which can give information about the system. A paint ball hitting a wall is an observation in this sense, because the wall then contains information about the whereabouts of the paint ball. No consciousness needed.reply
The conscious observation is the only thing that changed in the testing method between observing particle or wave behavior. When only one thing is changed between two tests with otherwise identical conditions, it can be assumed the one changed factor caused the different results. That's how science works.reply
No, what changes the behavior of a particle is the interaction of the measuring apparatus with the particle - even if the measuring apparatus is just a camera.reply
Ya, and that's a means of observing the particle without interacting with it in any physical way. So what's changing the behavior of the light/particle from a wave to a single point other than an indirect reading of its path, aka simple conscious observation? A only takes information into its lense. It doesn't send anything out that would interact with whatever is being measured.reply
Huskies?reply
I think they are better, huhreply
As long as they , don't go where the huskies and don't you eat no yellow snow.😅reply
Pls don't. No people means no dogs. There's good in the world and you want to take that away.reply
What a dumb hOt take > Violence is at an ask time low. Your one of the statistically minuscule percent of humans who has ever been able to read. Your talking to people ask over the world on something that fits in your hand. I know you're preaching about how great our literacy rates are, but it's *'you're'* & *'all'*. And what do you classify as violence? Just war & acts of terrorism, of domestic violence, as well? Do you have receipts on those claims? > In most countries women have more opportunities for careers and education and self determination that pretty much every. ...um, what? Another question for your point on literacy, but did you just stop mid-sentence here? > Billions of people live in democratic societies. **YEAH!** Like America, look how well that's going. And even more Americans came out to vote for him the third time 🙄 > I think you could stand to be a little less whiny And I think you could stand to be a little less sanctimonious. The world is hard right now and some people are closer to the grind than others, so they feel it more acutely. Everyday. So spewing out some random facts that make *you* feel better doesn't necessarily help someone who's worrying about the number of days they have left in their apartment before they're kicked out. And then you try to neg them at the end, claiming this stranger you've never met, whose shoes you've never walked in is *whiny*? Come the fuck on.reply
> disappearing polymorphs Once you feel sort of comfortable with that, check out the double-slit quantum eraser experiments. It breaks time.reply
I think about that from time to time. For example, I have to assume that my great (to the power of 30 or 40) grandfather/mother were warding off sabertooth tigers in their cave dwelling and that's why I'm here today.reply
five thousand, not one thousandreply
A period piece comedy about the only human male in the world who can't get laid sounds phenomenal.reply
Don't even get me started on quantum entanglement.reply
it was around 1300reply
Kind of wish we didn’t 😒 yeah yeah, dark, I know… but look at all the suffering that has occurred due to human conscience & resulting emotions plus the destruction of planet earthreply
Well, it's our own suffering, mainly. Earth will continue. And if we wipe ourselves out, there will be multitudes of new species to replace the ones we destroyed.reply
I think I remember reading somewhere that as a result of this the average troop of chimpanzees (Within the range of 20-100 chimps) have more genetic diversity than the **entirety of humanity**.reply
That's nothing ... If you think about it it does prove that light travels all the paths at once (you can even prove that!) and still only arrives on one place.reply
the single-slit is just as fuckyreply
This made me become a physicist. Lolreply
Only when stuck at the atomic level of understandingreply
This is why I failed chemistry 3 times, I can’t phantom atomsreply
We are totally in a simulationreply
I read this as well, but this is also based on someone who is physically fit.reply
Yeah, I love how people always bring this fact up as if the average person could still somehow outpace an antelope. Maybe people that regularly train and exercise would, but Gazza' down in the pub that drinks 2 Stella by lunch would pass out at the 5k mark.reply
So... There was a whole bunch of inbreeding done to continue the human race? Is that why we have so many genetic defects around?reply
It wasn't necessary close inbreeding. You can get this effect by getting a bunch of little groups, gradually reducing their genetic diversity, then shuffling them back into the deck, so to speak. But judging by ancient mythology, it was probably a bunch of close inbreeding...reply
and boy oh boy are we taking our revenge on the planet now...reply
Yeah, and some scientists think it was due to a huge eruption!reply
so they were the "Adam and Eve's" but realreply
So.... a thousand people fucked our species back into relevance and now I have to pay taxes? Cool.reply
I just watched a SciShow Youtube about this, and the explanation that we had a 'bottleneck event' that reduced our population to 1000 might be wrong. The video explained that the physical evidence doesn't match the DNA conclusion, that there were still plenty of human settlements or whatever in the fossil record at the time. What they concluded was that at that time (around 900k years ago) a branch of humans split off from the main group (the thousand humans) and that group became the ancestors of all of us, while the rest of the groups died off.reply
There are other possible explanations as well, such as genetic drift in multiple groups, etc. Still it's pretty interesting and could could very well be true. Even the idea we were reduced to, say, 50,000 individuals would still be pretty startling.reply
I remember reading about this in one of my classes. If I recall(and by all means, someone correct me if I'm wrong) the human pelvis was small in the first generations of humanity, making it near impossible to bear a child without losing the mother, child, or both in the process. I'm pretty sure you can find it, but the statistical probability of humans existing at all is quite the number.reply
This terrified me. I hope your adjustment was bearable and you're doing well, but the thought of just waking up one day and being deaf in one ear scares the crap out of me.reply
Husks and Kangaroos are crying nowreply
that's your mistake. u camereply
Actually his dad did...reply
So many times.reply
[Birth is a curse and existence is a prison!]([link removed]reply
I beg to differ. The camels from Terry Pratchett's discworld are extreme mathematicians, because they can accurately spit long distances.reply
Except for Archer fishreply
I love this, thank you for posting it!!reply
But is like that with all other species I just CAN'T see the difference between 2 random rhinosreply
Humans don't do well with inbreeding.reply
So, what probably a sign of homo sapien inbreeding? Things that we still unaware of, species wise, not Hansburg Jaw levelreply
I've heard it compared to measuring the air pressure in your tire. By applying an air pressure gauge, you are affecting the air pressure however minutely thus changing it. Same with the slit experiment.reply
And then some of us have seven random voices and a hamster, all at the same time, along with a radio for some reasonreply
I'm still convinced this is just people confusing how others describe how they experience though. Like "I don't \*HEAR\* a voice so I don't have one". I don't see how you could function or even compose a post or write anything at all without internal discourse. I think the descriptions of what people are actually experiencing are just not aligned for describing the same thing and people are stubborn.reply
I feel like I disagree just because "hearing" a voice is really the only way to describe it, at least in my case, and I don't think people would easily mistake that.reply
Language =/= thought. You don't need to be self-talking and narrating everything to be thinking. Funnily enough, for a while I was convinced that *everyone* is thinking "normally" (without an inner monologue) and that inner monologues were just a layer over top that helped with communication. Because my reasoning was that self-talking must be unbearably slow and so inefficient that there's no way it's anyone's primary method of thinking. So yeah, similar reasoning to you, just the opposite end of it. Just goes to show how diverse our brains can be.reply
I feel like this is exactly what I'm talking about, I think everyone is experiencing the same/close to the same thing and describing it differently.reply
Idk man, people around me say that if they think about needing to do laundry they literally think the words "I should do laundry." I just think of the concept of doing laundry, there are no words involved at all.reply
An inner monologue doesn't take place at the speed of a verbal communication, at least in my case. It's much faster, more like I perceive time at a different rate internally versus externally.reply
And have you heard the one about the SR-71 listening to airport chatter?reply
Been here 11+ years, it's been surprisingly long since I've seen it last, but yeah a lot of times. And read it every time (also reddit law).reply
yo mama's childhood petsreply
My husband does not. Whenever he tries to process things, he speaks out loud. One day, early on in our relationship, I got really irritated because he was saying every single thing he was about to do and I was like what are you doing right now lol? Ended up discovering he has no inner monologue. I'm like dude, my brain talks constantly. I hear my own voice in my head, I replay conversations, when I have thoughts they are audible inside my mind...nope. He has none of that. Just thin air up there. He thinks that me having an inner monologue is the reason I'm crazy, and I think he is slow at life because he doesn't have one 🤣 it makes a lot of sense why we are so different in how we react and approach situations.reply
I wonder if he/they experience less anxiety? I’m sure they still do, but not in the “mind is running” sense. My brain likes to jump around between 1-2 seconds of a song and then another song then another random thought then something that happened 30 years ago then then thenreply
That's even weirder to me! Talking to yourself out loud just sounds like an inner monologue with extra steps lmao.reply
I slowly realised while typing and went back to add: I don't think this is the same thing, especially since I think some comments here mention having *pictures* just not a voice and I'm about to talk about an inverse thing, however it sounds like it has overlap and is still interesting. I have two friends with Aphantasia and one of them is 'complete' Aphantasia which is lack of mental imagery, or imagination in a literal sense. They skip the mental abstraction phase and just "process" rather than "think", before I knew them I thought such people would be less intelligent but my interpretation now is their brain works less like a narrative and more like a calculator: when asked hard questions or sums they freeze for a split second then dryly recall whatever it is, generally correctly.reply
My understanding was that in hot weather humans usually win, in cold weather the horse usually wins?reply
Wikipedia has the conditions recorded for many races. Horses always won in cold weather, in hot weather humans have a chance.reply
Well the horse is also carrying a person on it, which I have to imagine gives the humans a bit of an advantage.reply
Sperm whales: "Fus! Ro! Dah!"reply
Science deals in observations, which are facts. The theory of gravity is an attempt to describe the fact of gravity. There are many attempts to explain the observation of dark matter.reply
I have to disagree. Science deals in observations, which are our measurements of what we think happened. If I have a detector that detects whenever a red car passes my house, it's not a fact that 50 red cars passed, even if my detector tells me. It's likely, but there's nothing to prove that my machine didn't glitch. Maybe 49 cars passed and it counted one twice. Even if I'm there directly observing the cars and making sure the detector doesn't glitch, there's nothing to prove that my detector didn't glitch at the same time I had a visual hallucination of an extra red car. There's nothing right now proving that I am not hallucinating this conversation, my computer, my entire lived existence. I could be a Boltzman brain right now, there's just no way of knowing. Science just doesn't deal with facts, because "facts" are an illusion created by our perception of reality. Don't get me wrong, I'm fairly confident that my perception of reality is fairly close to some underlying existence beyond myself, but I can't *prove* that. Gravity says "things with mass move together", right? But if I try to apply that to the universe, it doesn't work. Okay, so I get more in depth, use Newton's explanation, and boom, I can make it to the moon. Except the closer I look, there are still holes. Okay, so I look at Einstein, and I get general relativity. Yay! Except when I look closer, I'm still missing things. General relativity (or rather, it's recent evolutions) are the best models of what probably is the underlying situation. It's not *wrong*, but it's not *complete*. There are holes in it. There are more explanations needed. E.g. quantum gravity, dark matter, dark energy. So when physicists say spacetime curves, or dark matter exists, or what have you, they are not claiming “this is ultimate reality proven with certainty.” They’re saying “this is the model that currently explains the largest amount of data with the strongest predictive power and the fewest assumptions.” Some future theory could completely replace the idea of curved spacetime in our future, the same way GR subsumed Newtonian gravity.reply
>I have to disagree. > >Science deals in observations, which are our measurements of what we think happened. Epistemological challenges like this don't appeal to me. Fact: When you drop an apple it falls to the ground. We don't *think* it happens, we know it happens. Fact: Light bends around a massive object. We know this because we've observed objects behind other objects, and we use this light bending in other practical astro applications. Another example, we account for the fact of time dilation in making sure our satellites are precise. >If I have a detector that detects whenever a red car passes my house, it's not a fact that 50 red cars passed, even if my detector tells me. It's likely, but there's nothing to prove that my machine didn't glitch. Maybe 49 cars passed and it counted one twice. Sure observational data can be noisy. But the observation is of course the fact that red cars are driving by your house. You can come up with all kinds of theories for the number of red cars and work on a prediction model. >Even if I'm there directly observing the cars and making sure the detector doesn't glitch, there's nothing to prove that my detector didn't glitch at the same time I had a visual hallucination of an extra red car. Yeah there is, you repeat the test thousands of times with many types of equipment and many different experimental setups and then compare and contrast your results with everyone else. >There's nothing right now proving that I am not hallucinating this conversation, my computer, my entire lived existence. I could be a Boltzman brain right now, there's just no way of knowing. Science just doesn't deal with facts.... And this is why philosophers stub their toes saying they don't believe in corners. You are redefining "facts" to be nebulous and unknowable when they are precisely the opposite. Like, the claim you are a Boltzman's brain is not measureable or scientific. It's not in the realm of observable fact like a falling apple. And maybe your eyes are lying about the apple. But to claim everyone's eyes might be lying therefore gravity isn't a fact... **Why have a word like "fact" at all?** >Gravity says "things with mass move together", right? The *theory* of gravity says that. Observations are just observations. We observe something like that happening, yes, so we make theories that spell it out best we can. You rest of your post seems to conflate fact and theory. Theories are not facts.reply
He'll live (or did...) Probably he's done now.reply
Well then I'm sure he would have gotten along great with Richard Feynman.reply
Yes but dogs can be trained and have historically been trained to do many things from hunting rodents to being guard dogs , hunters , companionship ,retreating items , war , foraging for food , tracking, beasts of burden ,animal herding amoung other tasks . Further modern times this has been expanded with hundreds of tasks from letting someone know there about to have a seizure to finding mines and guns. Yes there are some cats that are able to learn basic tasks but it is extremely rare to find a cat that is willing and it requires somebody who is very skilled. With dogs the ones that can't are either due to bad breading ,bad humans , not being trained or a combination . There is a reason dogs have been called for thousands if not tens of thousands of years man's best friend....reply
Bad breading on a dog is the worstreply
> What’s happening in your brain…? Thinking?reply
Probably the dumbest peoplereply
No reason to assume thatreply
If I have to guess...reply
Animals in general evolved before terrestrial plants did. Land plants appeared around 470 million years ago and the oceans were full of marine animals by thenreply
What did the land look like back then? Like a Martian rocky landscape?reply
Google “Pando” and check the data.reply
Going along with this: trees are older than the organisms that break down dead trees, which is how we have petrified wood.reply
This is not true. Read: [link removed] As a counterexample for your claim specifically: The petrified wood in the Petrified Forest National Park, which is by far the most famous formation of petrified wood, formed during the Triassic period, well over 100 million years after both wood degrading fungi and bacteria evolvedreply
* coalreply
Sharks are older than the North Star, Polaris. Not just it being the North Star, which it will eventually cease to be, but it's actual formation as a star.reply
Came here to say this.reply
Fundamental things like magnets? /sreply
[So, about those magnets...]([link removed]reply
It makes me SAD to think aboutreply
Depends how you define 'shark'. If you mean Selachii (i.e. true sharks, excluding rays and skates), then they evolved some time in the Mesozoic (possibly late Palaeozoic but that's contentious), long after trees (mid Devonian). If you mean the earliest cartilaginous fish with placoid scales, then definitely!reply
Sharks are older than dirt.reply
But younger than the mountainsreply
That's because of the unfreezing process. I..... hope I didn't say that outbloud just now.reply
One of my favorite YouTube channels, udiprod, has [some videos]([link removed] exploring how quantum entanglement might be used.reply
Expert scientists call it "spooky"reply
they also think that the first people to develop this is how we got religion. thought the inner monologue was god talking to themreply
I don't understand if I have one. I can sound things out or talk to myself or I guess narrate what I'm thinking, but I don't have to. A lot of the time I think in concepts rather than words. They can be put into words, but I just don't do it unless I feel like it or I'm talking to somebody. That doesn't mean I think entirely without words, but I don't think in sentences much of the time, or at least not consciously. But they're still complex thoughts that I can convert into language. Is any of that the inner monologue people talk about, or...?reply
I don't understand why anyone is surprised by this, I've met far too many people to think otherwise.reply
The Appalachian mountains are older than bonesreply
And some of us cannot visualize object when our eyes are closed. But my inner monologue is on point.reply
Aphantasiareply
I have an inner monologue, but don’t have a mind’s eye. What’s so odd is that I can “imagine” something and describe it, but I can’t actually visualize anything in my mind.reply
"tree" is also the same as "fish" - it's human shorthand for vast groups of totally unrelated organisims, not a meaningful biological term. In taxanomic terms, they are about as precise as "plant" or "animal"reply
And Keith Richardsreply
i think one of the strangest things about saturn's rings is that they only took a few days to form.reply
I definitely have an inner monolog, but it's my own voice and I guess my brain adds visuals or shapes or something.reply
One more thing, my inner voice does it the most when I read and write.reply
Wait really?reply
Here's a third, the Appalachian mountains are older than Saturn's rings.reply
Also: sharks are older than the north star. Now we got the triplette!reply
For some reason, I feel like you could possibly be making this up🤔reply
… the geriatric spice..!reply
When i read that the first time it slapped me in the face like a cold fish. Why does he call it that?!?reply
and the north star.reply
Sharks are older than the North Star. Not its positioning within the sky - sharks are older than the formation and stellar ignition of the star Polaris.reply
I'm not even sure what it means. Are you really saying that those people never think in words, never try to formulate what they're going to say in advance, or just that they don't have a constant internal narration of everything that's happening?reply
The last one. I *can* think in words, but typically I only do so if I'm thinking about something that actually involves language, such as imagining a conversation or something I am going to write.reply
Do some people really have an ongoing constant non-stop internal narration of their whole lives? That sounds exhausting and unhelpful. Honestly, I get a little confused when people talk about thinking in pictures or thinking in words. I think in thoughts. I can visualize something, to some extent, if I want to. I do often translate my thoughts into English, but that’s an extra step that I do for various purposes. Most frequently, it’s because I want to explain something to someone else. I imagine it must be like that for most people, even if they explain the experience differently, but I guess there’s no way to know.reply
I used to love cats, but now I'm at best indifferent to them. Does this imply something cured my brain worm in the mean time?reply
Time to donate your brain to sciencereply
I would also like the answer to thisreply
Yes, my internal monologue is usually what talks me down out of a spiral. It's literally my voice of reason.reply
Echo chamber, bots, karma whoring. Take your pick. I'm embarrassed at how many upvotes my post gotreply
Not common at all, something like 1-2% of people have true aphantasia.reply
So one out of 100 people. I’d say that’s pretty common. And everything I see says 1-4%. So possibly 1 out 25. Same number as someone having your birthday.reply
Wait. So it's less a "curve" and more a "compression."reply
Ond nauw, on de Hydroolic Press, ve vill press de innerd mawnoloog. *press whirrs* Wut der fuck.reply
> Honestly it's weird to me that your thoughts are all in words. Seems limiting. lmao cope more. I find it limiting you cant have an internal monologue and have to resort to picturesreply
>Honestly it's weird to me that your thoughts are all in words. Seems limiting. In my case, it's both - the voice narrating, and images/scenes/concepts/emotions/smells/etc. So not limiting at all - the opposite, in fact, overwhelming and tiring. And I thought that this was what everyone who says they have an inner monologue felt? Like, it's inner monologue + images/etc or only images/etc., not only inner monologue or only images/etc. Although, come to think about it, that explains something I saw not too long ago in a post (somewhere, maybe instagram?) discussing this, where they had a line with apples at varying degrees of transparency/clouding, and they were asking people where they were at. I responded like 20% transparency/clouding (80% visible), plus the constant voice.reply
Cool info!reply
No I havent... Theres like multiple different thoughts going on in my head at all times and they are always narrarated by me and they dont stop, even when I try to sleep. I am so insanely jealous of people who dont have an internal monologue or even just less of one than me. Must be so peacful.reply
"What'a badass cat! I'll meet him now" And then, the mouse's killedreply
I do both, both picture it and also talk through it. It's like monologue but silent?reply
isn't that just a "Chinese Room"?reply
You forgot to wear the lab coat and wearing hair netsreply
Yupreply
the brain only has about four seconds worth of oxygen in it, though, so once the heart stops pumping in more, awareness stumbles to a halt pretty quickreply
It helped me with my depression when I was 16 but that only lasted for a few months after the trip. What’s wild is that it was my first ever trip and everything possible went wrong. I only noticed I wasn’t depressed a few days later but never put two and two together since this happened 20 years ago when I had no clue this was possible.reply
Firing up that cosmic antenna and transmitting, for sure.reply
My Dad died last August. I'm really wishing I didn't read this.reply
I hope you can find comfort in the fact that there's a big difference between consciousness/awareness and residual brain activity. Once the heart stops beating and one's blood pressure plummets to zero, all awareness would be gone. There maybe some residual electrical activity but brains need oxygen to work and low BP/oxygen lead to unconsciousness and a lack of awareness.reply
Im so sorry! I usually don't bring this "fun fact" up specifically because of this!reply
It's okay. Thanks guys. I just don't like to think there was any more suffering. It sucked enough as it is.reply
Hope for Demerzel!reply
It's busy watching a recap of its entire life for the next episode of the showreply
Not only that, but also the Appalachian mountains used to be around the same height if not taller than the Himalayas. What we see now is their ancient roots.reply
Like meatballs and fried dough!reply
Mmmm fried doughreply
So something like sleep paralysis?reply
Does this mean evolution has a direction?reply
Well, no, not exactly. Evolution is based on the process of natural selection leading to adaptations within populations and species over time. It's a consequence of a given environment having pressures that select for contextually advantageous traits–we call these *selective pressures*. Sometimes selective pressures can be very similar across environments, sometimes they can be very different. Separate species or populations can experience convergent evolution as a consequence of similar selective pressures leading to similar or identical adaptations, and the same species or populations can experience divergent evolution as a consequence of very different selective pressures and reproductive isolation between groups. Convergent evolution is not the rule, but rather an observed phenomenon. This is because across environments and niches there are just so many variables that the selective pressures selecting for which traits are advantageous or disadvantageous are frequently different and change over time. In the case I mentioned in my original comment, it's a rare and phenomenal version of convergent evolution that showcases the determinism of the natural selective process. It's a kind of convergent evolution called *iterative evolution*, or intraspecific (within a single species) convergent evolution. Two populations of the same bird species separated from their original population and became reproductively isolated on an atoll under the same environmental conditions/selective pressures, but at different times. This led to them both (at separate times) speciating (diverging from their mainland population) into the same species or subspecies (converging into a morphologically indistinguishable species from the original isolated population before them). A couple of details worth mentioning: It's debated as to what extent to lump or split them categorically from their mainland flying counterparts (e.g are they separate species or subspecies). The first iteration of the species to colonize the atoll went extinct due to the eb and flow of sea levels, then the second iteration of the species re-colonized the atoll and re-adapted into the same species when it was habitable again more than 20,000 years later.reply
Hawks are not related at all to eaglesreply
I just recently learned that our bodies break down a medication for sleep/anxiety/depression known as Trazodone in a similar way to breaking down LSD, which can cause hallucinations. However, since Trazodone helps you sleep, most people don't report this, because they experience the hallucinations as a crazy dream.reply
It is much more likely that you are a Boltzmann Brain hallucinating this at the end of the universe after all the black holes have evaporated an uncountable amount of years ago and entropy has reached a state allowing a Boltzmann brain to form, than it is for you to be a normal person raw dogging the universe as it is. In a similar vein, the universe is almost certainly a simulation in some capacity because the mathematics support it. The number of chances that your experience of the universe is a simulation in some capacity is so great it approaches the functionally infinite. The number of chances that it’s the true true reality is only ever 1.reply
Why? What makes these so likely?reply
Both are just statistical math really, there’s no ‘proof’ but the math heavily supports it. I explained the simulation thing above. The Boltzmann brain one is somewhat similar. The second law of thermodynamics states that systems tend toward high entropy. A fully functional brain is low entropy, but in an infinite, eternal universe it *must* happen eventually. So essentially in the raw statistics of it, it’s many many times more likely that you are a tiny blip of low entropy in an infinite empty universe (a Boltzmann brain) than an organic brain that’s part of a very large fluke of low entropy, which would be the history of the universe giving rise to stars, planets, evolutionary life, and finally your brain.reply
I read a fabulous book about how the team joined up! Basically explains the steps wayyy back in the primordial goo when inanimate became animate. And goes on to explain how mitochondria joining our ancestor influenced pretty much every aspect of life. You need a book sleeve to carry the damn thing in public though lol... bright red cover with the title "Power, Sex and Suicide". Seems a bit creepy but no, just a book about the coolest organelle! The power part is obvious. The sex part is how/why genders evolved, and the suicide part references cell turnover.reply
That occurs every time on the earth's historyreply
So high, I believe, actually?reply
No they were correct, they have an unusually low body temperature of around 94-96 degrees.reply
You can't move at the speed of light, just very close to it. To people standing still the light will continue to move at the speed of light, but due to the Doppler effect, it will have a far shorter wavelength. To you, the light will also move at the speed of light, but you will also perceive time itself completely differently, due to the time dilation.reply
Oh, suck my dicks.reply
They often do.reply
Ethanol is one of the simplestreply
Thank you for the laugh I needed that 😂reply
To really reduce it down, speed = distance/time. The speed of light is always c. If you're going at 90% of the speed of light, and shine a flashlight in front of you, relative to you, it is c. Relative to a stationary bystander, it is also c. It is constant, and never changes. meaning that since speed doesn't change, the distance covered doesnt change, you and the stationary bystander must be experiencing time at different rates.reply
Crabs are the final life form. Everything turns into a crab eventually.reply
I have met many humans who have already evolved into crabs. I work with a few…🦀reply
This guy tried and videoed the whole thing. [link removed]reply
Don't mind if I do!reply
The carboniferous era. There were giant spiders.reply
Soon… transformers eating lawnmowersreply
What a snitchreply
Snitches turn the police into their personal enforcers. Doubleplus good!reply
What’re other plants gonna do… stay in the same place lol? What’s the pointreply
Ramp up their chemical defenses, for one thing.reply
It definitely depends, I think! You gotta deploy the right one for it. You're absolutely right; this one would be much too long to be a good band name.reply
thank you! that's cool!reply
...the fuck are the other plants supposed to do?reply
Oooo, that makes sense, the prey comes, stops the animal from killing the plant.reply
There are weirder things. Masanobu Fukuoka, the author of *One Straw Revolution*, recounts a personal discovery when he was working as an agricultural scientist. While testing a new variety with a variety of pesticides, he found that he got higher yields with the control plot that wasn't treated at all. When he studied that plot, he found that (because of ignorance of this new strain's particular requirements) the plants in all plots had been sown too close together. There was more insect damage in the pesticide-free plot, but the insects focused on the plants growing too close together and ate the weakest plants. Fukuoka ultimately concluded that the plants were releasing chemical signals that induced insects to effectively weed out the weakest plants, leaving the remainder with enough room to successfully produce seed. In the plots where the insects were killed, this natural weeding process was disrupted.reply
They're definitely out there, although not a ton are generally well known ("...And They Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead" and maybe "Death Cab for Cutie" being the only ones that readily come to mind for me) but Google gave me [this thread]([link removed] which some of the responses are good examples. But, still, I do agree that the Tumblr blog names thing is better than band names.reply
Deleting my comment bc I think OP is saying less about actual atom nuclei and is more making a comparison to if humanity were turned into neutron star goo, which afaik they'd be more or less correct about the size.reply
The link doesnt load for me. Whats the title of the video?reply
Try this [link removed]reply
Benjamin G. Thomas, Convergent Evolution (multiple videos)reply
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Eeeew I’ve never heard that one!!reply
Kind of? The problem is that keeping them open would require negative mass/gravity, as wormholes wouldn't be traversable without it. As far as we know, negative mass/gravity isn't really a thingreply
With the donor sitting above?reply
What can the grass do in response?reply
The flashlight would have to be made out of photosreply
Every time you look at the flashlight, it makes you laugh.reply
When I learned that gravity has a speed it was the most amazing and seemingly obvious things of ever heardreply
... And then you learn some things *do* move faster than our universal speed limit, but only under a technicality.reply
Pretty much.reply
Yep.reply
More along the lines of "there's an herbivore around, increase your defenses!"reply
Crabs have ten legs.reply
It's somewhat pendantic, but true crabs have 8 legs and 2 claws. They have 10 limbs, though. If you include crab shaped things like king crabs...limbs may vary.reply
I don’t actually know but my guess is because the “spice melange” that people consume is the final form of what spice is. It starts as worm spit or whatever then becomes the shiny desert cinnamon everyone loves.reply
I don't think you're discussing the same concept as Op. I believe you're explaining that space and time are fused together. Op is explaining that to all observers light travels at speed C. Two different statements.reply
That's really interesting, honestly I hadn't thought about how much mental health advice assumes you have an inner monologue.reply
unless it's not in a vacuumreply
I suppose that depends on technicalities. An individual photon (for example) will ALWAYS move at the SoL, vacuum or not. But a beam of light, as a group, may move slower in a medium. --- Reminds me of how things can technically go faster than the speed-of-light, or how energy technically isn't always conserved in a closed system. But those are fun nuances for another day.reply
to me its much more confusing that the photon is both a particle and a wave, unless the wave is just a description of how the particle travels ?reply
Yep, apparently they do. It sounds exhausting to me too! I also feel like I primarily think in just thoughts, but I do have a strong visual imagination as well which I use often. I can think in pictures, but also in diagrams and charts, especially when dealing with complex topics. If I'm writing a story that involves a lot of moving parts, I imagine them almost as index cards on a board or as points on a timeline to keep track of what's going on. I can't see how anyone could do that with a voice in their head narrating it all.reply
I could imagine index cards on a timeline if I wanted, but that seems like too much work to keep track of it all and not forget anything. I guess my visual imagination isn’t great. I’d rather write out index cards and do it for real. I also kind of hate it when writers go into excessive detail about what a person or place looks like. I’m thinking, “I don’t want to need to imagine all that. Just tell me what I need to know and move things along.” When I’ve thought about how to describe my thinking process, it’s not words or pictures. The closest thing I can think of is that it’s like machinery in motion. If I’m confused or need to figure something out, sometimes it’s like someone dropped a spool of string and it came undone and went all over the place. Some thoughts move on rails like a train, one thing leads to the next cleanly and without interruption. Some thoughts are like a pendulum swinging, free in some ways, but still bound by the opposing forces of the string its swinging on holding it up, and gravity pulling on it. When I figure something out, it’s like things literally “click into place”. If I have a lot of certainty in what I’ve figured out it’s like it gets locked down, nailed to the floor, and won’t move anymore. Sometimes I feel the motion in my chest, or in my head, or deep in my guts. Sometimes it feels like it’s outside of myself, and I’m just witnessing it. I often figure things out relatively quickly (I don’t mean relative to other people, but relative to my entire process of thinking and communicating those thoughts), but then need some time to translate it into words or a diagram or something, either to tell someone else or just to get it into a static form that I can save for later. The motions don’t really lend themselves to memory. And I’m not sure why I’m describing it so much except I’m curious if anyone has a similar experience. And also to say that it’s sort of very simple and direct, and the idea of thinking in word or images feels like it’d require work to translate what I’m thinking into those forms.reply
Yeah I definitely have the voice too! Just not all the time. When you think about our propensity towards creativity and imagination, it makes sense that the entertainment industry is absolutely full of people with ADHD. Also because we tend to struggle with "normal" jobs too of course. Edit: I replied [here to some asshole who thinks it's just "people wanting to feel special" ]([link removed] about how it all exists on a scale which may help :)reply
It sounds like we just fundamentally disagree, then. Because I'd say "Observation: When you drop an apple, we it appeared to fall to the ground." If I'm trying to be scientific about it, that is. Because, for example, "fall" is entirely subjective to the viewer. Someone standing upside down would see it "rise". >But the observation is of course the fact that red cars are driving by your house. Unless it glitched and there were actually zero cars. Or I'm a boltzman brain. >you repeat the test thousands of times with many types of equipment and many different experimental setups and then compare and contrast your results with everyone else. And if the results say "99.99% of tests observed 50 red cars"? That doesn't mean it's a fact that there were 50 red cars, it just means that the most likely explanation that fits the data is that there were 50 red cars. That's not a fact. >Why have a word like "fact" at all? Because language exists. We're not all scientists, and the typical human experience doesn't need to be as specific and careful with vocabulary in all instances, so it's perfectly fine to say "It's a fact that there are 50 red cars" even if there's a tiny, tiny chance that there weren't. And because math exists, and mathmaticians are perfectly fine talking about facts, as they get to control what they perceive as reality and declare it to be so because they declared it to be so. >theories that spell it out best we can Exactly. This is exactly my point. >You rest of your post seems to conflate fact and theory. Theories are not facts. I don't think I've ever been accused of this before. I'm trying to conflate theories and *models* in my comment. I would never intentionally conflate facts and theories, because facts aren't theories, nor something that science has any stance on at all. There is no such thing as a "scientific fact".reply
> Because, for example, "fall" is entirely subjective to the viewer. Someone standing upside down would see it "rise". This is just getting into the weeds over my simplified description. Call it a fall or a rise, whatever. What we are all witnessing is an apple accelerating -- the amount and timing of the acceleration will differ depending on intertial frame, but everybody will agree that an acceleration occurs. >Unless it glitched and there were actually zero cars. Or I'm a boltzman brain. And maybe the Easter bunny is right behind you. Science doesn't consider things outside the scope of observation for a reason. I don't know how many cars you have to see before you realize it's not a glitch but I'd hold onto reality if I were you. >Why have a word like "fact" at all? >Because language exists. We're not all scientists, and the typical human experience doesn't need to be as specific and careful with vocabulary in all instances, so it's perfectly fine to say "It's a fact that there are 50 red cars" even if there's a tiny, tiny chance that there weren't. I think you missed my point that "50 red cars" is not a fact; it's an opinion made through observational noise and subject to a degree of error. A scientist would say "We measured 50 cars"; they would not say "there are 50 cars". And instruments only have so much precision. OTOH, scientific facts like "massive objects cause acceleration" do not have this margin of error. "Evolution" does not have a margin of error. We see it everywhere. We measure it everywhere. There is no chance we "got it wrong". These are observable facts and it makes no sense not to call them facts, however you want to use language. >And because math exists, and mathmaticians are perfectly fine talking about facts, as they get to control what they perceive as reality and declare it to be so because they declared it to be so. I don't understand what you're accusing mathematicians of here. >>You rest of your post seems to conflate fact and theory. Theories are not facts. >I don't think I've ever been accused of this before. Sorry? I made a point about observations and you concluded your post opining about Newton and general relativity being incomplete. Okay but that doesn't contradict my point because I'm not talking about theories... I'm talking about observable facts.reply
>This is just getting into the weeds over my simplified description. That's my point, actually. *Everything* is a simplified description. We do not experience objective reality. Everything we have is filtered first through our experiences, second through our senses, third through our cognition, and then fourth through our language. >but everybody will agree that an acceleration occurs. Except for someone who doesn't see it. Or someone travelling at the speed of light. Or someone who sees the apple accelerate and dismisses it as a hallucination. Or someone experiencing it in reverse. Or someone experiencing a different number of dimensions. Or someone who experiences time as nonlinear. >Science doesn't consider things outside the scope of observation for a reason. This is untrue. Science considers things like this *frequently*. Hence why there are dozens of interpretations of quantum mechanics. Hence why we talk about sources of error. >I'd hold onto reality if I were you. I'd hold onto *my unique experience of what I'd consider reality filtered through the above listed filters*, you mean. >scientific facts like "massive objects cause acceleration" There is no such thing as a scientific fact. That's not a word we use. Period. We talk about theories, laws, observations, etc., but not facts. >There is no chance we "got it wrong". Sounds like you're just not creative enough to imagine a scenario where evolution is not as we describe it. Evolution is not a fact. It's a theory. It's the most well evidenced theory ever created and described by mankind, but that doesn't make it evolve to a fact. It's still subject to change and fine-tuning, and frequently experiences both. >I don't understand what you're accusing mathematicians of here. Math doesn't happen in our world, it happens in the world the mathematicians describe. For example, a mathematician might set up an equation that works in the 6th dimension. Science has to wrestle with the fact that, hey, maybe there aren't 6 dimensions like that, or hey, maybe there are more than 6, but math can just say "This is how it works." because that's how it was set up. Not accusing, just pointing out how science and math work differently. >Okay but that doesn't contradict my point because I'm not talking about theories... I'm talking about observable facts. Theories and facts are different. We agree on this, but you keep conflating them. So... I guess i"m not really sure what you're trying to argue here. Would you like to clearly lay out what you believe the difference is?reply
I also have a lot of recurring dreams. Same ones since I was a kid and then new ones added in that happen again and again. The one I hate the most is all my teeth crumbling in my mouth and me spitting them out in my hand.reply
Technically the smell of crushed plants IS the scream. Can't wait to see how vegans spin that in their heads.reply
Oh they’ll fine a way to justify it, anything for ego lol!reply
No need to be pendantic, what I'd said is perfectly appropriate, just not super detailed to avoid using jargon specific to evolutionary biology, this isn't a lecture, it's Reddit. Iterative evolution is a form of convergent evolution, namely intraspecific convergent evolution–look it up if you don't believe me. They could be considered two separate subspecies for the reason that there was about 36,000 years between the extinction of population A and the establishment and convergent iteration of Population B, despite their morphology being virtually indistinguishable. They could be considered a separate subspecies for a categorical/taxonomic convenience due to stratigraphic difference in where/when they were found, not a morphological one. For all intents and purposes, they are the same bird found in different strata who evolved independently at separate times to become the same subspecies from an ancestral group after experiencing separate iterations of the same environmental conditions at separate times–they are indistinguishable from eachother and were likely capable of reproduction between groups. The distinction is largely arbitrary and only useful to separate them by time if you want to use it–**they don't even have a separate subspecies name between groups A & B**. But again, there wasn't a point in me explaining it to that depth until you tried to "wellakshually" me about it.reply
It kind of is necessary because “things evolve in a similar way to fill a similar niche” is a very well-understood, regular part of biology (though very interesting) whereas “the same species evolved twice” sounds exceptional.reply
You didn’t say anything about the discovery. You just said that there was a case of convergent evolution where a bird species independently evolved twice. Why not explain the story from the outset? In any case, maybe I’m being pedantic by mentioning iterative evolution, fair enough. But I still feel it’s just not correct to say the “same species” evolved twice. They aren’t the same species in the sense most people understand it. Now you are saying “subspecies” but that isn’t what you wrote in the original comment. Surely you know the difference between a species and subspecies? And you understand that genetically separate but morphologically similar species are not considered identical? To be honest, I do appreciate you providing additional context now but I am kinda surprised you are calling out my comment was a “wellakshually.” If you didn’t want misunderstandings, you needed to actually explain your example instead of just giving some teaser.reply
Your body will eat your eyes if it realises they existtop-level
**Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease. Basically, it’s mad cow disease for humans.**top-level
We don't know how Tylenol or anesthesia works. We just know that it does and are hopefully using it correctly.top-level
Vaccine for pancreatic cancer is currently in the workstop-level
Polar bears are actually black. It's the light refracting through their fur that makes them white.top-level
definitely False Vacuum theory. Suddenly a completely new universe with completely different laws, can happen at any point in time. That's just terrifyingtop-level
At any moment any medication could morph into a form that is unusable then contaminate the world making it impossible to ever have that medication again. It happened to ritanovir form 1.top-level
Double slit quantum erasertop-level
Contrary to popular belief a barrel of monkeys is NOT fun. In fact, science tells us it is quite terrifying.top-level
Alienstop-level
And why would you say something like that ?reply
...how?reply
This sounds significantly more fun when you read it as a "theorised plant that could be 10x bigger than earth".reply
Mutated form of kudzu? Maybe a scifi example where kudzu meets the Humongous Fungus in Oregon?reply
DID breaks my brain. I feel bad about this but part of me just can't accept that there are multiple people in one body.reply
Coal came from themreply
Explain barnacles…reply
Not today, Hook!reply
Mmm, velociroasters.reply
I'm not an archeo botanist 🤷🏼‍♂️ But (as you see in my other comments) will spend time arguing minor points on the Internet with strangers 🤣reply
> mass Above someone said it was over half the *cells*, but far less than half the *mass*.reply
Beetles aren't carninised.reply
So we should be designing Crabots!reply
Still, what does it mean?reply
Someone stormed into my classroom the other day and claimed it was a man!reply
🤯reply
Even the empty vacuum of space is not technically nothing. As far as we are aware nothing exists with an absolute zero "zero point energy", so even in what we would consider a completely empty vacuum, there are very small energy oscillationsreply
Photons! Photons everywhere!reply
But you get to board the Heavenly Express then.reply
spin a globe and check the latitude linesreply
Yes Oregon is further south than the UK but Western Europe is also warmer than it should be.reply
Thank you for the correction.reply
Modern artistic recreations of microraptors look so similar to birds, as seen in this [wikipedia image]([link removed] Very neat little guys, and we have a lot of information about microraptor feathers from fossils.reply
So just a ray of light shining onto something basically constitutes being "observed"?reply
Not even a ray. A single photon interacting with a particle is enough to be considered observed.reply
It's not a comeback. What's happening is that Trump's NASA administrator is a billionaire who has decided to reignite a 20 year old culture war with another dose of "alternative facts."reply
I have. I don't personally subscribe to the idea of consciousness being a fundamental part of reality. C-pattern is an interesting motion, not necessarily related to all variants of Panpsychism. But I am skeptical of C-pattern as well. I was merely responding to the guy who asked about the "observer" in the context of a person or being. Not necessarily as in "observe" in what we mean about collapsing waves that then define a particle, etc. I am not a scientist, physicist, or philosopher. Forgive me if my languge is not precise here. The ideas are simply interesting, IMO, but there are better sources than me for this information.reply
Agreed, "interact" would be a better choicereply
No need to act butthurt. I enjoyed reading all three comments. First your teaser, then learning about the atoll and finally a detailed breakdown.reply
You ever heard of telepathy?reply
Don't, it is not worth it. This is a phenomenon that we cannot explain and which is hard mathematically as soon as you are done with a one-sentence explanation. There are more interesting things in physics.reply
Higgs bosontop-level
Dark Mattertop-level
Theropods, and other dino species I'm sure, had wishbones.reply
I don't think vastness is the right term. There's no end. How can there be?reply
Yes and no. Not between all Galaxies, just between Galaxies(and everything else) that is far enough away. Which based on our current best guesses means a few hundred local galaxies will merge with the Milkyway sooner or later, the rest will move away.reply
And the vastness of time.reply
Star Wars side character ahh namereply
Every hour and a half or so, every banana produces a positron, which is an antimatter electron. It soon contacts an electron, and both are destroyed in a sub-atomic kaboom.reply
The entire concept of GPS is completely based on knowing where something is by knowing when it is with extreme accuracy and precision.reply
Yes, but most people don't realize how very accurate it has to be, that less than 50 milliseconds of imprecision makes the system useless.reply
I just recently learned about this! Incredible!reply
Inuits/First Nation eat them 👀reply
All Summer in a Day....reply
Eh whatevs any "You instantly become spaghetti" world/universe enders just don't matter because you can't even realize it when it happens.reply
And all mammals (no exceptions) came from a tiny shrew-like mammal that live along dinosaursreply
All birds are dinosaursreply
66, not 65reply
Carnian? Be specific bro, nobody will just guess what u talking aboutreply
i mean... so do wereply
Yeah I see people every dayreply
My dad’s favorite movie!reply
Imagine human vegans in 120 million years 🤣reply
'walk like crab but look like people'reply
> People who tried that (myself included) very often have a sense to be pure existence, to be connected to "everything", to exist in a timeless state of nothing than potential I think I've experienced something similar during a bad "trip" on synthetic cannabinoids. I basically felt like a pure consciousness floating in absolute, black nothingness. To me this was anything but a positive experience. In the contrary. It was absolutely terrifying and the most lonely feeling I've ever experienced.reply
Whatever, grandpareply
Considering we eat modern dinosaurs (according to monophyly, they are still members of the clade Dinosauria and therefore still dinosaurs), I imagine that we would and they'd taste similar to turkeys.reply
The magical fruit!?!?reply
I only understood this because I watched The 3-Body Problem.reply
You know, I always thought it was "tastes", like the parent poster. I mean, I still do, but I used to too. You've made me second guess myself, and now I'll have to check.reply
Tastes is the first part. “Taste like crab, talk like people.”reply
I find that unlikely since being beheaded would result in a catastrophic loss of blood pressure. Considering people can pass out from the drop from standing up too quickly...reply
Better catch that before the raptor annihilates it..reply
Also you wake up at 3.33am every night...reply
Far enough underground, which isn't all that far, would be enough to benefit from the internal heat of the planet. Radiation is actually one of the main sources of heat from underneath the crust so that wouldn't dissipate for a long time. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be a huge problem to have an external vent except for it becoming covered in ice at some point. But CO2 is heavier than most of the other air gases so sinoly getting it out of your living areas would probably be the bigger issue. But if there were enough energy resources to build an underground farm/forest/arboretum, that could make a significant difference. I imagine if this was all built in an area that could produce geothermal power, a small population could continue for quite some time.reply
what is your personal opinion about it? is it a myth?reply
No I do not think having a near death experience is a myth. I believe people have them, but I think it’s their brain playing tricks on them. Nothing more. Nothing less.reply
they relied upon the stability of the holocene for the level of agriculture necessary for standing armies/global conquest; without that crucial stepping stone, industrialization (or any large scale extraction from the earth) would be impossible.reply
Exactly. There would be no pain, no time for thought. No reaction. Just lights off, for everyone, in one instant.reply
That's because it is exceptional. What I've described has only been observed a few times (see Sea Turtles, Ammonites, Sea Cows, Molluscs) although I'm not as familiar with those particular cases. An "extreme case of convergent evolution" is still an accurate description, even if it's not a high resolution one of the specific case of White-throated Rails on the Aldabra Atoll.reply
I love your responses and information here! But I'm super curious about something - is your job related to evolutionary biology or was this just a special interest of yours at some point in time?reply
Thank you. But yeah, I majored in Biology with an Evolutionary Biology track for undergrad. I've worked "ecology" and adjacent jobs, but I ended up working as a microbiologist in a path lab for years now because it turns out there's more employment for that.reply
Medical nanotechnology, it’s getting scary.top-level
the fact that your immune system can attack your eyestop-level
There are more potential moves in chess than there are individual atoms in the known universe.top-level
Project Stargate. The US government/CIA actually had a Cold War-era program studying remote viewing, basically trying to see if people could gather information using only their mind. The wildest example is Ingo Swann allegedly remote-viewing Jupiter without a telescope and describing things like rings before they were commonly known. I’m not saying the psychic part is real, but the fact that the CIA seriously looked into this sounds fake as hell.top-level
Toxoplasma gondii. its a parasite that when infecting a mouse will make it less scared of cat pee and more generally curious as to get the mouse eaten by a cat where it can then reproduce. Also apparently it can infect humans and it seems to have some effect on the human mind as welltop-level
There is a decently rare genetical condition called *Fibrodysplasia Ossificans Progressiva* or better known as "Stone Man Syndrome" which affects the regenerative system and results in every kind of body tissue (mainly muscular tissue) to regen into *bone*, via a process called "ossification". It's unavoidable and the average life expectancy for a patient suffering this is about 30-40 years, since they turn slowly into bone statues from birth.top-level
Technically, we never see the present. Sunlight takes about 8 minutes to reach Earth, so if the Sun suddenly disappeared, we wouldn't know for another 8 minutes. Everything we see is actually a glimpse into the past.top-level
Not 100% though like prompt specifies. Probably as provable as afterlife the way major western religions typically conceive of them.reply
Yes I'd you have healthy poop you can make a decent paycheck from it!reply
Oh heavens \*clutches skull\* have you got a link on that?reply
That the center of the universe can never be found.reply
I'm gonna call BS on that. I know right where my Mother-in-law is.reply
So you married my ex-wife? Good to know!reply
Interesting!reply
How does aging factor in? Like old age would still eventually kill you, right?reply
Your body, but not your consciousness, in theory of course. We don't really know what consciousness is, so theoretically, brains could just be organs that harness the energy that is consciousness. Like a computer screen harnesses and interprets electricity to make an image. So when your body dies, perhaps your consciousness connects to another brain and is then channeled there. And if it's a specific enough signature, it could be that it's only channeled to other versions of yourself in other universes. In theory, of course.reply
Ive been into particle physics and cosmology all my life and ive never ever heard anyone say this, it actually just straight up goes against all of Our models and would need a stupid amount of work to make workreply
[Here’s something that will bake your noodle, then.]([link removed] And someone else has managed to separate the *charge*, to form a third constituent “particle”. Saw it on a Smithsonian Channel program just the other night, talking about the accomplishments of the Swiss Light Source. I rush to add that particle physicists are at this point calling these constituent quantum bits of the electron "*quasi*particles”, not new fundamental particles, and point out they can only be separated from each other for a short time, within very limited substances, under very limited (and impressive) conditions, one of which seems to be smashing the electron with X-rays having the energy equivalent of those spit out by supersized black holes. Edit: [here’s something on separating charge, too]([link removed]reply
This one is for sure not true. ^^reply
It's something to do with quantum tunnelling and atoms being mostly empty space, but yeah even if every person spent their entire lives jumping up and down all throughout time it would never happen, its just technically possible but so unlikely its basically impossiblereply
What I find more interesting about this is that it even matters to humans. We live on a very specific time scale compared to other things in the universe. Think about the length of time an era on earth lasts, or how long a planet takes to form or exists, or stars, or the universe itself. On a scale from one Planck time to 13 billion years we just happen to experience time on a scale where this kind of thing even matters for us. Also, as an aside, relativity prevents us from accelerating anything beyond the speed of light but it doesn't prevent things that are always moving faster than the speed of light from continuing to do so. We just would never be able to really interact or do anything with them because they also couldn't be slowed down to below the speed of light. It's more of an asymptote than a maximum. Physics is weirdreply
I'm confused with this one a bit. What does the email have to do with anything?reply
Was using the microphone. lol I have no idea why it does that sometimes.reply
I feel like quantum entanglement gets overblown and misinterpreted a lot. It’s super cool and all, but nothing mystical. There is no information exchanged between entangled particles, nothing happens “faster than light,” the particles don’t “know” anything about each other or any such nonsense… they just have identical properties while entangled—so looking at one tells you everything about the other without actually seeing it. And it’s a temporary state, typically nanoseconds. Maybe at most a couple minutes in some especially empty pockets of nice calm vacuum. Nothing to sprain a lobe about really, but people like to get carried away 😝reply
The Higgs-Boson is the particle associated with the Higgs Field. This field is what gives fundamental particles it's mass. So these particles move through/interact with the field, and that gives them mass, meaning they don't just zoom off massless at the speed of light. So things like electrons get their mass from this. Not ALL mass in the universe comes from the Higgs-Field, but without it matter would not be able to exist. Finding the Higgs-Boson confirmed the existence of this field. Also if you ever hear someone talk about "False vacuum decay", they are referring to a change in the energy state of the higgs-field. Which would cause a bubble of new physics that expands out at the speed of light in all directions to ovewrite/destroy all the old physics/universe. It would look a lot like the big bang, and the laws of physics would be different in this new universe. It's also possible, but in no way confirmed, that our universe started as a vacuum decay of the higgs-field from an even higher energy state.reply
The delay from the earth to the moon is about 1.3 light seconds. You'd easily be able to have a live conversation.reply
1.3 seconds for two way connection is already horrible, if it was the same thing over discord or something no one would find it acceptable. You miss the greater point thought, that already, on the smallest possible comic distances its already limitingreply
i like to imagine the official name is "the fucking gimpy gimpy plant"reply
Could you explain this a little better I'm curious but am feeling lost lolreply
Let me see... Imagine you are at the tip of an oil tanker and with some binoculars you're watching someone at the other end with a huge mallet about the hit the deck with it. You will see it happen. An instant later you will then feel it under your feet. And another short while and you will finally hear it. The speed of light is pretty damn fast at about 300 000 kilometers per second. The speed of sound is 343 metres per second. But that's in atmosphere at sea level. In a solid like the oil tanker we can estimate 5900 metres per second. As you can see compared to air there is a huge difference, but this is nothing compared to how fast light travels. This is why the carbon rod example was used. In a solid, any movement only happens at the speed of sound. You can only move that object at the speed of sound of the matter that is imparting the change. So, imagine that a harder object with X energy, like a hammer hitting the carbon rod, can only create a sound boom that will have to move inside the solid as a wave moving particles in the object and shifting it in a direction. It doesn't matter if you hit it with a car, the wave will have to compress the carbon atoms in the rod who will then transmit the scoot over information to the next atom. That's the limit at which matter moves. This is why it is impossible to reach the speed of light if you have mass. In an extreme irony, a photon emitted by our Sun can travel across our solar system, leave our galaxy, cross the path of countless other galaxies, and 14 billion years later when it finally hits something, the time it lived was 0 seconds. Time simply did not happen for the photon.reply
It doesn't literally do that, it's a way of understanding the mathematics under probability waves.reply
Surely this is a huge understatement? Light should behave like a particle (photon) not a wave, yet the dual split experiment exists and it seemily does know all possible paths. Also there is a miniscule probability that light can do ANYTHING (literally anything), which opens a door to (literally) anything. Quantum physics is absolutely absurd, and with light we can actually see it.reply
WTF with these guys. They just get weirder every time I learn something new about them.reply
Science fiction greatly distorts the actual effects. The maximum you can experience is about 3:1 at the photon sphere. No possible orbit exists below that, all paths either lead across the event horizon or promptly back out. (Thought experiment: light orbits at the photon sphere. Any orbit below that would require more orbital veloicty. That is, FTL.) And the same thing happens even here on Earth, it's just the effect is tiny. Don't believe in relativity, get lost! (Because using Newtonian math to run your GPS causes errors considerably larger than it's usual precision.)reply
I think I understand what you’re saying (maybe I’m wrong) but just to clarify, I wasn’t actually talking about having to be outside the event horizon. I was talking about time dilation even after passing the event horizon (of an ultramassive black hole such as Phoenix A), not about whether or not one could escape or maintain a stable orbit from within it. Also this is the first time I’m hearing about a “maximum time dilation” effect. Can you elaborate? Where did you hear that?reply
Rush knew what they were talking about, that's for sure!reply
Maybe this is why my sister is chronically late! LOLreply
Bacteriophages: 😎reply
RIGHTreply
This is definitely good !reply
I would have appreciated if you didn't use those three dots, but yeah I searched a bit on google and found the info again for you. A second more and I found a trustable interview from the scientist published by her uni, and you could find more from this if you want. [link removed] Edit: Dr Maria Strømme it isreply
Absolutely, all the things happen and they really have nothing to do with human decisions. The decisions are happening *within* that framework. But it also means that all the human decisions happen still, big and small. It's valid to say that looking at this from a human centered approach is entirely the wrong perspective, when the quantity of different states is so mind boggling it's even more ego-centric than having an Earth centered approach to the vast universe around us. On the other hand, we are humans and we exist in this context and it would be strange to ignore what that context means, if anything, to us. >That's seems way too many. Yes.reply
Humans too. There's 7000 languages on the world, and on many of those languages have more the 2 words to Homo sapiens Just in portuguese, we have 3: gente, pessoa and humano. Imagine on AAAALL other languagesreply
You see time moving all around you but you look to be stuck from the outsidereply
How is that "switching roles", exactly?reply
In normal life, you can move around freely - space is changing from your perspective, but time is always going forward. In a black hole, you're not moving at all because of the gravity, but you would see all of time passing around you from inside the black hole, looking out.reply
Your best bet is to beam a signal up to a relay satellite which beams it back down directly to the targetreply
There’s a theory (in the same way that gravity is “just a theory”) that the universe is in a false vacuum state (I’m not a scientist and I’m really stoned so this might not be totally accurate) Apparently the likelihood of this being true is pretty high. What it means is that what we think is the lowest vacuum state is NOT the actual lowest vacuum state, and one day, something might reach this actual vacuum state and some physics fuckery would occur and we could cease to exist. And there is literally nothing we can do about it.top-level
your body has more bacteria cells than people realizetop-level
fish are actually eviltop-level
Why are you anywheretop-level
I just saw that on YouTube, wtf?!reply
Well, I for one and glad that I am not responsible for me being a fuck up.reply
They can be removed.reply
Caveat: only true with Earth's surface area, not volume.reply
Lmao samereply
Oofreply
most likely huge overestimate, 2026 studies come up with much lower figuresreply
At the quantum level, nothing is a particle as one would understand it.reply
True, I don't have the expertise to find all the right wordsreply
I'm a fan of the newish theory that our current universe is possibly the result of a false vacuum decay from a previous universe.reply
This is an unscientific presupposition with no testable and falsifiable evidence. I could say the easter bunny made us and our theories would be on equal footing. It's a nice idea, but it needs evidence of some sort to enter the realm of science.reply
I mean, that's a bit of an exaggeration and overreaction IMO. Alan Guth proposed that the inflation of the universe could have resulted from a high-energy state vacuum decay: [[link removed] His theory was refined by Andrei Lindei: [[link removed] And recent experiments have been able to test parts of these theories.reply
It's an exercise in futility because it predicted an inhomogeneous universe post-inflation and that directly clashes with cosmic microwave background (CMB) uniformity observations. It has already been largely falsified, and any answer around such observations enters the realm of fantasy.reply
Ultimately, fires on earth are the fault of plants...reply
What?reply
It will be a fantastic problem to have if our species is still here thenreply
Okay thats indeed pretty interesting, very suprised ive never heard of it considering the 2012 Tag, but its pretty far from New particles id say stillreply
Oh thank you for letting me know It is a fascinating topic but I had a neighbour who suffered from it and it was horrible. He suffered a great deal and was treated like an animal by the authorities. So sad.reply
Go on, do the math. You forgot to do it, didn't you? Let me clarify the key difference... When a plane flies at Mach 2.2, the engines are applying force continuously and smoothly across the whole aircraft for a long time. The acceleration is very gradual compared to the speed of sound in the metal. So the entire plane moves together more or less as one piece. There’s no sudden “shove at one end” that has to propagate as a wave. In the carbon rod case, you’re giving a sudden push at one end. That impulse has to travel through the material as a compression wave, and that wave travels at the speed of sound in the rod which is only about 12 km/s. That’s why it takes hours to reach the Moon. The plane doesn’t break the same rule. If you suddenly slammed one wing of the plane forward, the other wing wouldn’t move instantly either. The structure would flex and the signal would still travel at sound speed through the aluminum. The airplane example and the rod example are not doing the same thing physically. And in case you missed it, the same happens in the propellant. It's being accelerated. For example, a cartridge loaded with the same energy acts differently in the barrel of a pistol and the barrel of a riffle. One gives it more time for the propellant to accelerate the bullet and itself and weapons like the M16 with 5.56×45mm NATO round can reach Mach 2.9. Commonly available pistols like .45 ACP and Sig Sauer p365 don't hit the sound barrier.reply
Once you're below the event horizon things radically change, I don't think time dilation even makes sense down there. And the maximum I was referring to is the maximum you can realistically encounter. The lowest possible orbit is the photon sphere, you need to be moving at lightspeed to maintain orbit there. And at that distance the dilation is only around 3 to 1. There are paths that go below the photon sphere without impacting, but they don't stay below the photon sphere, it will be only a momentary passage into realms of higher time dilation. And how long you stay down there is measured by outside clocks so it's even shorter from the standpoint of an observer doing it. Sci-Fi depictions of black holes are almost universally wrong. I can't think of a work that gets it right.reply
The craziest thing to me is that we know things fall into black holes, and if you were approaching it, you’d just fall right in. But the reality is it hasn’t actually happened yet. Time stops at the event horizon. From our perspective, things never actually reach the singularity until the end of time. We just visualize it in our brains because we know what black holes do, and we've seen it a million times in visuals on science documentaries and YouTube videos and what not, but technically, it hasn’t happened yet.reply
Nothing in the universe exists as a particle, everything is waves. Photons are packets of waves, it makes perfect sense that they have a wavelike nature even when emitted in quantized amounts.reply
No but if I kick 2 footballs through 2 doors, they're not going to start interacting with each other because of probability waves. I wouldn't say it makes perfect sense, it's just the way the universe is.reply
Because footballs arent wavesreply
I thought everything was waves?reply
Do you know what decoherence is?reply
Yes, and I very much get your point. Regardless I don't think particles/protons acting as waves is intuitive to people, and is not something you can typically observe. But with the duel split experiment you can see if happen with your own eyes, "probability" waves interacting with each other. It's 100% there, like magic or being in the matrix. And like you said everything behaves like that. For me it was world breaking the moment I understood what was happening.reply
Ultimate lifeformreply
The bloop.top-level
Didnt it turn out to be an ice quake?reply
Lol. Exactly. But the credits don't roll and there is no musicreply
TMS because what do you mean brain magnets fixed thirty seven years of anxiety and depression in six weeks?top-level
Was it really that magical?! I had a referral for it but the closest clinic is over an hour away which isn't feasible for daily treatment. But if I moved closer, it's worth it?reply
Reproductiontop-level
The reason why your finger smells if you stick it into your belly button is because it’s attached on the other side to your anus.top-level
Rabies is pretty much real Zombies.top-level
Dino nuggets are actually made out of dinosaur meat.top-level
These answers are lame.top-level
Sex is not binarytop-level
Did you know a signifigant portion of all men older than 60 only have one X/Y chromosome in most of their cells?reply
Pee is stored in the balls.top-level
Also toan (/r/guitarcirclejerk reference)reply
The mythbusters story about the old school diver that ended up completely crushed into his helmet due to pressure.top-level
Time travel I thinktop-level
not possible to the pastreply
What freaks me out most is their discovery of the non existence of Godtop-level
Yeah, right.reply
The Universe came from “nothing”top-level
That there actually is No Intelligent Life on Earth.top-level
oddly not a direct discovery, but I guess a highlight of discoveries not yet made. the magical accelerations that living things do. when I was learning about special relativity, brain kind of got used to the super straight forward mechanic of causality, cause and effect...the simple every action has equal opposite reaction. is like the brain gets used to this simple mechanic of cause effect / becomes the "prediction". then when done thinking / learning of SR and "go back to normal thinking stuff" it sometimes would wildly standout just how magical life is particularly as the complexity increases and we completely loss sight of this causality that lead to say....me typing this. That there can be such compact molecular complications that it can do things like...."make a choice". just wild imo. pure physics magic, these accelerations we living things do....where there is no way to follow the causality chain to see what exactly caused said effect, said acceleration. this sort of control of physics that life seems to have done. things like storing potential energy, to be released when "desired". a fun train of thought imo and as someone who's pretty sure am not a simply a molecular complication of inevitable happenings that simply needs time to "play out" i find it a bit of a "freak me out" thing. Now all that said, am learning about the dopamine / reward system....and then am like "Ah, so probably high 90% of these "magical" accelerations I do are in pursuit of "treats"" Not purely free will, but at least I am provided the experience of those treats; thanks physics and please sir, MORE!top-level
The truth behind the implications of the double slit experiment - and why no physicists will ever test it. The universe has a built in system for testing if information a) still exists and b) is still accessable - regardless of time. It requires an observer - but explicitly doesn't need the observer to be conscious - the effect still happens. The implications are beyond astronomical - but it will never be persued by scientists because it's career suicide.top-level
That isn't the double slit experiment. The double slit experiment shows that light acts as both a wave and a particle.reply
ESPtop-level
Rage bait or do you actually believe in pseudoscience?reply
The Weight and Size of your mother in law.top-level
Everything about quantum physics. Double slit, Stern-Gerlach or the quantum eraser experiments.top-level
That's an impressive pedigree! Thanks again for sharing your knowledge 😁reply
I disagree. It confuses people because they think it's expanding into something. You just need a spherical surface really.reply
We basically proved that the universe is a simulationtop-level
How could we ever do this? We have 1 data point and are inside the simulation, therefore it's a fundamentally unprovable claim. Simulation theory is basically astrology for people who think they're cleverreply
Check out this video: [link removed]reply
No thanks. I understand statistics well enough to know they can prove what they are claiming by any valid statistical method. So either they're fudging numbers for engagement, or just incorrect. Either way I'm not providing them clicks I am asking the person who claimed something is proven to explain how in plain language... If you can't, you don't understand it and you're making spurious claims.reply
Lol you just refuse to look into it because it makes you uncomfortable. If you wanna be ignorant, fine. It makes no difference to me.reply
Nope, you're making spurious claims about impossible statistics and calling it 'proven'. That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed in kind. Why can't you explain it in plain language. I can tell you why it's spurious in 2 sentences. I've read tonnes of so called 'proofs' of simulation theory. Just like the fermi paradox, any serious mathematicians looking at it are always to point out that it's purely speculative for very obvious reason.reply
Sir, this is a reddit thread.reply
OP asked for proven science, you posted unsupported speculation... If you don't want the responses why'd you post at all...reply
God damn it, this is such a great response. The fact that you have any downvotes at all is mounting evidence that Old Reddit has died and been replaced permanently by Idiot Reddit. Maybe someday in the future, Old Reddit will re-emerge as a distinct but categorically identical nerd paradise?reply
The mirror image of a molecule of Meth is a type of Flonase.top-level
Shuffle a deck of cards. Congratulations. You have just shuffled a deck of cards in an order that has literally never been done in the history of the universe and will never be shuffled into again **ever**.top-level
Quantum indeterminacy.top-level
Look, we can stand here all day listing off every fucked up thing we have found, but I still can’t get over the fact we know, for a fact, because we used it to make BOMBS!!!! That we can just, like, find rocks?!? That gives off energy?!? And if you’re around them too long your body starts to break apart over it?!?!top-level
What the fuckreply
I know what you’re talking about and I don’t care if the phrasing is accurate—the way you worded it is hilarious and I love it 😆reply
I meant the camera chip: It measures the position of a photon by absorbing it. That's an interaction. But even if we're talking about a camera "taking pictures" of another particle (say, an electron), that particle has to emit a photon, and then that photon is entangled with the electron (entangled here means that the electron and the photon can't be described independently by two separate wave functions - only the electron-photon system has a valid wave function), and the camera chip interacts with the photon. But since the photon is entangled with the electron, that's an interaction with the electron-photon system, so we have an interaction with the electron. Seriously, bringing consciousness into the measuring process is voodoo. No serious quantum physicist (or anyone who took a course on quantum mechanics and actually understood anything) will talk about consciousness in a quantum mechanics context.reply
[[link removed] That's a Trump admin website which states that electrons are elementary. The surest proof you could ask for that they are not.reply
Free will is an illusion. All we do is have a useless debate in our head while our neurons have already made a decision about the action you are still deliberating on..top-level
youre stupidreply
You're welcome for the detailed breakdown correcting the correction made on my teaser then??reply
Ugh. If you didn't want me to treat your comment like a "wellakshually" comment the you shouldn't have started it with "Actually," followed by an incorrect correction. You can't do a "wellakshually" then be offended when someone treats it like that. I mean bro, I'm not even trying to be jerk but listen to how you type: >"Surely you know the difference between a species and subspecies?" I mean...do you? Truthfully not even taxonomists really know the difference between a species and subspecies very well lol. It's a notoriously blurry definition because taxonomy is not a perfect model: >"A species is the standard biological unit for a group of organisms that can naturally interbreed to produce fertile offspring. A subspecies is a distinct population within that species that has developed unique physical or genetic traits—often due to geographic isolation—but can still successfully breed with the rest of its species if they were to meet." Tons of separate species can interbreed and produce fertile offspring, and what you define as a subspecies or species is largely up to how useful the model is in that instance for understanding the species' reproductive potential and morphological differences between populations. Lumping and splitting has a certain amount of arbitrariness. >"A subspecies is a distinct population within that species that has developed unique physical or genetic traits—often due to geographic isolation" Moreover, the two populations in question didn't have any discernable unique physical or genetic (because comparative genetics testing wasn't able to be done between the older population and the newer population) differences so it's not useful to consider them separate subspecies (splitting) unless you're doing it for the specific purpose of differentiating by the timeframes in which they evolved. It's more useful to consider them the same subspecies (lumping) for understanding iterative evolution–they don't even have a separate name for the two populations if that shows how much more useful it is to consider them the same subspecies.reply
I wrote it that way in my second comment as a response to your tone; I’m not really into people calling out “akshully” as I feel it’s usually used in an anti-intellectual way on social media. I didn’t intend it as a correction (except the species part; I maintain that is misleading but we’ll agree to disagree). I think we’ve both made our points now. Thanks for providing the additional info.reply
I hope you have a good rest of your day. No hate, I'm sure you're cool dude.reply
Thanks, man. You too.reply
Quantum decoherence has nothing to do with this. It doesn't have to do with scale because both sides of the broken physics are at the same scale. It might matter if we were talking about gravity but we're talking about light. Also, prove to me things don't change when you look at them. Heisenberg actually proved we can't even measure a particle without changing it's state. So how do you know everything's the same?reply
There's some confusion here regarding the word "look." You can't "look" at an individual photon that hasn't hit your retina. When we talk about observing things at the quantum level, it's not as simple as just pointing a magnifying glass. It's more like being blindfolded at a billiard table, and trying to find the balls with the cue stick. It's possible to poke around until you poke a ball, but you can't poke a ball with the stick without moving it. You can't passively observe things at the scale of photons and electrons; every quantum measurement is some form of "make the particle interact with something else so we can measure the interaction."reply
A flamethrower that was sold on the open market and random people have them.top-level
They're too bulky to be practical weapons. The state usually doesn't regulate dangerous things that typically aren't actually causing any harm to others.reply
Before, you said that "[t]he percentage of the diameter of the observable universe that a human body makes up is larger than the percentage of a human body that a plank length makes up." This statement contradicts your claim now that a human and plank number are vastly closer to each other than to the size of the universe. In fact, your two comments are at exact odds with each other. And, the difference between a human and the observable universe is roughly the size of the observable universe, so the rounding error goes both waysreply
That is incorrect. A meter is 1/1000th of a kilometer. a picometer is 1/1000000000000th of a meter, and 1/1000000000000000th of a kilometer. The difference between a picometer and a meter is about a meter, the difference between a meter and a kilometer is 999 meters. That A is a larger percentage of a set than B does not make A closer to the whole of the set than A is to B.reply
It's really weird that you are trying to obfuscate basic math here. As a matter of basic fractions, B being a larger percentage of C than A is of B makes B closer to C as a percentage. You also don't seem to understand the mathematical concept of a limit, and are instead intentionally misrepresenting the scale here. The difference between a planck length and human height is almost exactly the same value as a human height, and the difference between a human eight and the diameter of the observable universe. Here's an older thread explaining how your reasoning is erroneous: [link removed] As a commentor describes, "in relative terms, the size of a human is about 1 m, the size of the Planck length is about 10^-35 meters, and the size of the observable universe is about 10^27 meters."reply
That comment starts with "The difference between a human and a Planck length is about the size of a human, and the difference between a human and the observable universe is about the size of the observable universe, so in absolute terms we're much closer to the size of the Planck length." At no point was this specifically about relatavistic proportions, so absolute measure is the baseline assumption.reply
You're just being intentionally obtuse. It would take more planck lengths to reach the height of a human than human heights to span the diameter of the observable universe. It is really that simplereply
My school bully said that scientists describe my mom as a new Planet because she is so fat. I see her everyday and cant believe i have a whole Planet in the house....top-level
Pluto isnt real.top-level
Neither are birdsreply
I went through a lot of these and did not see simulation theory. You are likely a simulation being run by some other life form. Statistically this is the most likely reason for our existence.top-level
In order to make a statistical argument, you need at least two data points. How many examples of perfectly simulated worlds do you have?reply
You cannot say that with any authority, you have 1 data point and are inside the test case, therefore cannot collect useful data to place meaningful vaules on it. It's just as 'statiscally likely' as any other untestable speculative fiction about our existence, including the bible... Irreligious people are just easily sold on it because it sounds 'mathy' and cool.reply
It reminds me of a race from The Orville that phased through time and had achieved immortality then played large scale holo games just to feel the thrill of almost certain death Ironically the first officer had become a God figure to this race early on in its tribal years just to almost die in one of their pranksreply
eating anything is unethicalreply
Absolutely everything that has to do with the axiom of choice. I'm not sure if math is counted as science. But fuck the banach tarski and their paradoxon.top-level
Fact, i have been reading this sub for too long, and im still not bored.top-level
The quantity of spiders we eat in our sleep over a lifetimetop-level
Wtf????reply
Oh, were you there?reply
Some of y'all don't have a sense of humor. I was making a joke about over-precision in estimated numbers.reply
The estimation is precise because the methods were precise. Additionally this number only represents the "pure" homo sapien lineages. It excludes ant population that bred with neanderthals or denisovans. The attached article is a good read if you like this sorta stuff. Link: [[link removed]reply
I've taken graduate level statistics and there is no way this kind of estimation is going to produce a really precise number. Like, if you say, oh, it was 1300, you wouldn't chime in and say "Actually, it was 1310." I was just going by memory but "under 1000" and "around 1300" are functionally the same idea.reply
I understand your argument however 400 humans contain about a million unique genomic structural differences, such as deletion which regulates gene expression, that make the number quite significant. Edit: Especailly if we are talking about a genetic bottleneck, the small "numbers" do matter as this group is the source of ALL genetic variation in homo sapiends a 1/4 difference is surely enough to be corrected for.reply
So what's the confidence interval?reply
It is, but that is the tale that gets told to the public. There were two further experiments done, both peer reviewed, both published. Both never ever spoken about again.reply
I think maybe you've been talking to the chat GPT too much or something.reply
Single photon experiment?reply
If you are talking about things like which-way experiments or the delayed quantum eraser, they are talked at length by physicist and perfectly explainable in our current framework. Before you say it, no, the delayed quantum eraser doesn't imply retrocausality.reply
How do you know anything about them then?reply
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Human biology and medicine

581 distinct coded comment records

195 normalized answers under Life sciences

Animals, plants, and ecosystems

570 distinct coded comment records

197 normalized answers under Life sciences

Astronomy, cosmology, and space

564 distinct coded comment records

353 normalized answers under Physics and space

Mind, perception, and behavior

461 distinct coded comment records

82 normalized answers under Mind, math, and information

Evolution, genetics, and deep history

334 distinct coded comment records

142 normalized answers under Life sciences

Quantum, particles, and relativity

333 distinct coded comment records

133 normalized answers under Physics and space

Measurement, scale, and other science claims

286 distinct coded comment records

92 normalized answers under Mind, math, and information

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37 distinct coded comment records

12 normalized answers under Chemistry and materials

Chemistry, elements, and materials

34 distinct coded comment records

13 normalized answers under Chemistry and materials

Geology, oceans, and planetary Earth

32 distinct coded comment records

16 normalized answers under Earth and environment

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31 distinct coded comment records

14 normalized answers under Earth and environment

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18 distinct coded comment records

20 normalized answers under Mind, math, and information

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The pluvial episode. It rained for 1-2 million years straight. Imagine going outside and it started raining...it happens...and then it never ended...
Time dilation 😭 the fact that time actually moves differently depending on speed and gravity still feels fake, even though it’s proven and measured.
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Okay…all the comments about quantum entanglement. Do I have the energy or emotional fortitude to go down this rabbit hole? For clarification, I don’t science…I have a useless liberal arts education.
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Technically, we never see the present. Sunlight takes about 8 minutes to reach Earth, so if the Sun suddenly disappeared, we wouldn't know for another 8 minutes. Everything we see is actually a glimpse into the past.
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Blind people (born that way) can't get schizophrenia. At least no case has been documented. That just really disturbs me. Edit: You have to be born blind to not get schizophrenia, and no, blinding people will not magically cure them of the condition. Edit2: I seem to have been misinformed, there are indeed some cases, but far fewer than one would expect if the issues were unrelated. See the comments for more information, somewhere after all the nonsense.
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Humans are the only animals with true chins
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We almost didn't make it. At some point, the main human population dwindled to less than a thousand individuals.
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Through the process of programmed cell death known as apoptosis, almost all of your physiology is replaced every seven years. You are not you, you are a pod person. Ok, cue the Ship of Theseus arguments.
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One comment, many claims

238 of the archived top-level comments and replies in this corpus are each cited as supporting evidence behind more than one catalog entry above -- together those shared records account for 556 of the catalog's 3,527 total item citations. A single detailed, rambling comment often packs in several distinct factual claims at once, and each one was promoted as its own separate entry in the catalog rather than folded into a single card. The comments below are the ones mined for the most separate claims.

We all know how weird they look, and that they lay eggs, and they're mammals but don't have nipples, and the males have venom. Many people don't know that the platypus is one of three known mammals to have a sense of electroreception (the others are the echidna, and a type of dolphin). As far as we know the platypus and echidna (which is much less reliant on electroreception) evolved the sense entirely separately from any other animal; the nerve that goes to the electroreceptors in their bill is the trigeminal nerve, which is homologous to the trigeminal nerve in humans and other mammals. Even fewer people know -- though few are surprised -- that the platypus genome is *WEIRD*. Like, real weird. The overwhelming majority of mammals have two sex chromosomes: XX, or XY. The platypus has TEN sex chromosomes, so male platypus are XY XY XY XY XY. They also lack the SRY gene, which in most other mammals is the key to sex determination - it's pretty much what tells a developing fetus to start developing testes, which in turn leads to testosterone production and so on. Until very recently we didn't know how sex determination worked in platypus, but we've recently discovered that they do have a gene called AMH, which is another gene that contributes (but does not *initiate*) sex determination in mammals. That's weird, and also interesting that AMH is found on the 'oldest' chromosome, X1, which *also* is more homologous to the Z chromosome, from the ZW sex-chromosome set that is found primarily in *birds*. This suggests that there was separate, convergent evolution in monotremes and other mammals. There's also some random reptilian homologies thrown in there, too, just for good measure. It's really true that everything we learn about them makes them seem even stranger. Bonus facts if you made it this far: they also have cheek pockets like hamsters, and can use their tail to carry nesting materials!
This one comment is cited as evidence for 10 separate catalog entries, all within Life sciences
I work with a lot of HIV+ patients. They live very normal lives. Affording meds is a big problem, but as long as they have them, one pill a day can make someone undetectable, so they can’t even spread HIV, let alone develop AIDS. We even have an injectable treatment now that you get every two months (Cabenuva), and that’s their whole treatment for HIV. PrEP is a goddamn medical miracle, too. I honestly end up in the verge of tears when I talk about it. I think of all the people lost to AIDS. The fear especially back before there was even a test for HIV, so you couldn’t know if you even had it or not. And now… we can just treat HIV incredibly effectively.
This one comment is cited as evidence for 6 separate catalog entries, all within Life sciences
GRBs are incredibly strong, but they aren't *that* strong. For it to kill us it would still have to occur relatively close within the Milky Way, within around 10,000 lightyears. That's still mind-boggling powerful. All the stars we can see with the naked eye are within ~2,800 lightyears (that is the farthest known visible star, most are much closer). The sun is ~8 lightminutes away and is energetic enough to burn us even with the magnetosphere and atmosphere providing protection. At 60 lightyears it wouldn't be visble to the naked eye. For something 8,000 lightyears away to be energetic enough to blast us hard enough to kill everything... that's ludicrous levels of energy. On the narrow end GRB are estimated to create a beam with a 2 degree angular spread. We don't actually know, because even at only 100 lightyears away a 2 degree cone is 3.5 lightyears wide, so actually detecting the edges would be hard. The closest GRBs known were millions of ly away. For a GRB to wipe us out from thousands of galaxies away it would violate our current understanding of light. It would need to naturally create a beam of light with orders of magnitude less angular divergence than should be physically possible.
This one comment is cited as evidence for 6 separate catalog entries, spanning 2 categories
Duck bill, furry beaver tail, mammal that lay eggs, sweat milk, one of the *very* few venomous mammals, they have patterns that glow under UV/blacklight, they have cheek pouches for food like a ~~guinea pig~~ hamster, they don't have teeth as adult but sort of as kids, has a noticably lower body temperature than most mammals, have a cloaca like birds and reptiles, spines on their penis, a non-functioning ovary, they can sense electric signals and use it similar to echolocation in water like some fish, etc.
This one comment is cited as evidence for 5 separate catalog entries, all within Life sciences
Fun fact I like to throw out during my astronomy public outreach events: The Andromeda Galaxy is our closest neighbor at 2.5 million light years away. It's close enough that it and the Milky Way are already interacting gravitationally. The light we're seeing that was emitted from Andromeda left the galaxy 2.5 million years ago, when humanity was still known as *homo habilis*, the first human species to use tools. If there were a sentient species on a planet in Andromeda with a telescope powerful enough to see the surface of the Earth, they would see us as our ape ancestors because light from us takes the same amount of time to travel there. In fact, the closest star to us, Proxima Centauri at 4 light years, could just up and disappear one day but we wouldn't know it for 4 years. There are rumors that the star Betelgeuse will go supernova soon but it likely already has since it's ~700 light years away.
This one comment is cited as evidence for 5 separate catalog entries, all within Physics and space
It’s a 15-foot biological ghost. It moves so slowly it’s practically stationary, its heart only beating once every 12 seconds. It doesn't chase prey; it’s a "sleep assassin." It drifts through the pitch-black silence like a piece of sentient driftwood, gliding toward seals while they sleep and swallowing them before they even wake up. ​Most are "zombies"—blinded by parasites that eat their eyeballs and hang from the sockets like wriggling, milky tassels. It’s a 400-year-old, toxic monster that’s never in a rush. It doesn’t need to be fast. It just waits for you to stop moving. Scary stuff.
This one comment is cited as evidence for 4 separate catalog entries, all within Life sciences
Our Galaxy will cross paths / pass through / merge with Andromeda long before we even come close to approaching the Great Attractor. Our Sun would also likely be a white dwarf at that point. At the current speed with which we’re being drawn towards the great attractor it would take ~64 billion years. Which is over 4x the estimated age of the universe. But we wouldn’t actually “get there” (not that it’s a destination to arrive at) because the universe is expanding at a rate faster than our attraction.
This one comment is cited as evidence for 4 separate catalog entries, all within Physics and space
They tracked the movement of other galaxies in the local group by comparing red shift with CMB to determine that they're all being pulled to one single area somewhere in the zone of avoidance. I don't think there are really the kind of large scale turbulent effects that you would imagine as there isn't a constant medium in which we're all traveling. Gravity would be the closest thing to that and that's basically what this is, except turbulence wouldn't pull an entire local group towards one point. The going theory is a galactic filament (Norma Wall) or asuper dense cluster of galaxies (center of the Laniakea Supercluster, which we are a part of). Though the apparent mass isn't exactly agreed upon, some estimates put it at 1/10th of the previous estimates and attribute it to Malmquist bias. The CIZA project, which came up with these new estimates, did come to the conclusion that there is something called the Shapely attractor that lies beyond the Great Attractor and is still pulling us. We're being pulled somewhere, along with other galaxies in our local group, towards one direction. Really the point of contention is where that point is and how big it is. Either way there's something absolutely massive out there and it's probably a collection of galaxies. BUT it could also be some other thing we don't even know about. My mind goes to like three black holes orbiting each other, which would probably have other signs, though if it's far enough away we wouldn't be able to detect anything. Or some sort of dark matter structure we have yet to discover.
This one comment is cited as evidence for 4 separate catalog entries, all within Physics and space
Dataset, coverage, and methodology
5,833
captured canonical records
1269
distinct scientific claims identified
5
reviewed science categories
626 + 5,207
top-level records + replies

The canonical corpus contains 5,833 records: 626 top-level comments and 5,207 replies.

The reviewed catalog retains 1269 distinct scientific claims/discoveries across 5 categories, drawing on 3,209 distinct source records; 2,624 records did not name a catalog claim and remain in the closed raw archive rather than being force-fit into a category.

Each claim's supporting records are a union, not a partition: a single comment naming several phenomena supports more than one entry.

This archive has no recoverable like counts or timestamps; engagement and arrival-order signals are neutral (zero) throughout.

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