Hobby Risks Readers Warned About—and Safer Practices

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Hobby Risks Readers Warned About—and Safer Practices

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Real damage, by hobby — and what people changed

Across 108 named hobbies and activities, the sharpest risks are rarely the ones with a scary reputation: chronic dust, chemical, sun, and repetitive-strain exposure show up far more often than one-time accidents, and the fixes people report are concrete swaps — ventilation, gloves, timers, technique changes — rather than quitting. Browse by category for the exact hobby, the reported harm, and the safer practice or counterpoint attached to it.

What you will find
  • Animals and nature — bird and horse hobbies carry real injury and lung-disease reports
  • Arts and media — hearing damage and repetitive strain from music, screens, and controllers
  • Movement and outdoors — sun, chemical, and adventure-sport risk sit next to everyday hiking and cycling
  • Workshop and making — lead, silica, resin, and solvent exposure recur across unrelated crafts
  • Chronic, slow-building exposure is reported far more often than one-time dramatic accidents
  • Protective gear, ventilation, and structured routines are the most common fix reported — not abandoning the hobby
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Animals and nature13 records · 2 sub-topicsAnimals and nature — 13 named hobbies/activities
Animals, wildlife, and animal care7 index entries · 92 source recordsAnimals, wildlife, and animal care — 7 named hobbies/activities, 92 source records
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Hobby or activity and its reported health risk: Animals, wildlife, and animal care

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Horseback riding and horse handling
51 source records

What the pattern means: Riders here spend as much energy debating the statistics as recounting the damage: broken necks, punctured organs, and deaths from being thrown or crushed, with several noting that ground handling injures people as often as the ride itself.

What commenters described: This is not as much of an issue if you actually bond with the horse, learn proper education, and do cross training to be properly fit and balanced.

Limit: I've had proper training and been riding 23 years, have owned my horse for 10 years, I am very fit, and I just got thrown when my horse tripped at a gallop, and I broke my neck. Was wearing a helmet. None of that info is true.

Birdkeeping and chicken keeping
19 source records

What the pattern means: Bird fancier's lung shows up again and again under different names — pigeon fancier's, eosinophilia, interstitial lung disease — and several commenters stress it's the feather dust and dander, not just droppings, that trigger the reaction, sometimes in someone who never directly handled the birds.

What commenters described: I keep chickens. You'd better believe when I shovel the coop I'm wearing a 3M 2097 respirator.

Limit: In one case, it was the husband who never even dealt with the birds who developed the condition.

Reef aquariums
16 source records

What the pattern means: Two camps face off directly in the thread: newcomers alarmed by warnings that soft corals can "gas your house," and longtime keepers who call that framing sensationalized while still confirming real risks — aerosolized palytoxin from boiling live rock, Vibrio infections from tank wounds — that basic gloves-and-goggles precautions actually prevent.

What commenters described: Wear gloves and goggles. Don't boil live rock indoors. Wash your hands. Basic stuff like that.

Limit: I can confirm coral poisoning in a joint hurts like nothing on earth for weeks on end, and you may not notice it until several hours after it happens.

Barbecue competitions
3 source records

What the pattern means: The case against barbecue competitions isn't a single acute injury but a compounding one: heavy smoke exposure stacked on top of a competition diet and long sedentary stretches, which commenters tie directly to cardiac disease, cancer, and diabetes risk among pit masters.

What commenters described: I've stopped BBQing and grilling, except for a couple times a year... I reduced my risk of lung and stomach cancer from 10% to like 4%.

Limit: That reduction is a self-estimated figure from casual googling, not a clinical one — the same commenter ends by admitting "I dunno."

Competitive eating
1 source record

What the pattern means: Competitive eating gets nominated with no elaboration at all — a single bare mention rather than a story, injury, or mechanism — so the risk case here rests on the sport's reputation rather than on any first-hand account in this dataset.

Fly fishing
1 source record

What the pattern means: Fly fishing's sole nomination here isn't about tackle or repetitive casting motion at all — it's a single angler in Australia flagging years of close snake encounters on the water, a wildlife hazard rather than a gear or technique one.

What commenters described: Had waaaaay to many encounters with snakes over the years. still love it though.

Reptile-enclosure maintenance
1 source record

What the pattern means: The single comment behind reptile-enclosure maintenance is a self-aware aside rather than a health story — a keeper realizing mid-cleaning that dirt swaps in a snake's enclosure probably call for a mask, with no diagnosis or outcome attached.

What commenters described: I seriously need to get some masks for when I do the dirt swap in my snakes enclosure.

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That’s generally only an issue with horse racing, unfortunately that equine sport has a lot of money in it so they push horses too far. Most horse riding competitions in other disciplines don’t make the rider money, and there’s no gambling involved. Hence there’s usually more emphasis on horse welfare, if not from the owners side, then from the governing body. I’m really not a fan of horse racing, and I’ve been working with/around horses for nearly 20 years now. It’s just too much exploitation of innocent animals.

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My sister-in-law was into doing horse shows. A few years ago when she was selling a horse, she was showing it to the perspective buyer, and it reared up and she fell off, but she got stuck in the stirrup or something, and the horse dragged her with her leg being caught in the ground and drove it into the ground. It was basically hanging off and she had to be airlifted to a hospital and they wanted to amputate it, but she wanted to try to save her leg instead. Three years later after unsuccessfully trying to save her leg she finally had it amputated. At that point, her other leg started having a lot of issues and problems with circulation because she overcompensated on it and this year unfortunately she had to have that second leg amputated as well and now she is a double amputee above the knees. It’s so terrible.

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I’ve had Proper training and been riding 23 years (30 f), have owned my horse for 10 years, I am very fit, and I just got thrown when my horse ive owned for 10 years tripped at a gallop, and I broke my neck. Was wearing a helmet. None of that info is true.

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This is not as much of an issue if you actually bond with the horse, learn proper education, and do cross training to be properly fit and balanced. It’s dangerous for people who do it casually and don’t have the proper skills, fitness, or knowledge of the horse they’re riding.

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Former Equestrian here, the depression from the debilitating arthritis almost did me in. Flew off my horse into a fence post, my legs wrapped around it, after 5 years of Depo Provera. Yeah RIP knees.

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What the counts show

The category splits sharply by evidence depth: horseback riding, birdkeeping, and reef aquariums carry dozens of detailed personal accounts of specific diagnosed conditions (bird fancier's lung, palytoxin poisoning, spinal fractures) and real disagreement over whether skill, training, or gear actually prevents them, while barbecue competitions, competitive eating, fly fishing, and reptile care are represented by only one to three passing mentions with little or no elaborated mechanism behind the claim.

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Gardening, plants, and environmental exposure6 index entries · 71 source recordsGardening, plants, and environmental exposure — 6 named hobbies/activities, 71 source records
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Hobby or activity and its reported health risk: Gardening, plants, and environmental exposure

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Bonsai and sphagnum-based gardening
60 source records

What the pattern means: A dramatic warning about sphagnum moss triggering sporotrichosis ('Rose Gardener's Disease') drew immediate pushback from a self-identified infectious disease physician and a commenter citing CDC and Merck Manual data, both clarifying the fungus enters through skin cuts rather than inhalation and rarely causes serious illness in people with healthy immune systems. The thread settled on gloves, damp handling, and masking for frequent or occupational exposure, while a side debate flagged perlite dust as the more overlooked hazard for the same hobbyists.

What commenters described: Don't worry, you're constantly inhaling spores- moss or no moss... Sporotrichosis... occurs because there's an injury to the skin which deposits the fungus deeper. Even then, in generally healthy people, the disease only manifests as a skin/lymphatic issue.

Limit: Skeptics pushed back too: one longtime grower said they know more bonsai practitioners who lived past 90 than cases of the disease in their community, and a CDC-citing reply argued it's better described as a rare occupational hazard than a routine risk of hobby bonsai work.

Sun exposure in outdoor hobbies
4 source records

What the pattern means: Boaters and other outdoor hobbyists describe years of unprotected sun exposure — one logging 80 to 120 days a year on the water before taking precautions seriously — against a cultural backdrop where tanning is still treated as attractive and protective rather than risky, with a UV-blocking shirt offered as a sweat-proof alternative to reapplying sunscreen.

What commenters described: Uv shirt with a hood, nothing slathered on, they don't wash/sweat off, help keep you cool too.

Limit: One commenter added a caveat to the alarm: skin cancer rates have climbed with this normalized sun exposure, but earlier detection has kept it 'not as fatal' as the rising numbers alone would suggest.

Gardening and yardwork
4 source records

What the pattern means: Commenters trace the danger in yardwork to the chemicals rather than the plants themselves: one wears a respirator after watching a parent suffer a fatal twenty-year chronic lung illness built on a lifetime of gardening, and another now dons industrial rubber gloves for even the smallest pesticide job. A lone aside undercuts the hobby's frugal reputation, tallying $300 in raised beds and soil against two cherry tomatoes.

What commenters described: Gardening and woodworking. Strong connections to e.g. MS. It's the chemicals, not the flowers.

Mushroom foraging
1 source record

What the pattern means: Rather than a personal account, the lone submission leans on mushroom-hunting folklore — bold hunters and old hunters exist, but never both in the same person — to warn that overconfidence in identifying wild mushrooms is what actually gets foragers killed, not the mushrooms themselves.

What commenters described: There are bold mushroom hunters, and there are old mushroom hunters, but there is a reason you never find Old, Bold Mushroom hunters

Pogo sticking
1 source record

What the pattern means: This entry is a bare, one-word nomination with no elaboration on the mechanism of harm, leaving readers to infer the injury risk from the sport's inherent balance demands and hard-surface impact rather than from any first-hand account.

Mushroom cultivation
1 source record

What the pattern means: The single supporting comment frames spore inhalation as a delayed-onset hazard for mushroom growers, noting that someone can eat and work around mushrooms for years without issue and then abruptly develop a lifelong respiratory allergy once masking and ventilation lapse.

What commenters described: without vigilant masking and proper ventilation, mushroom farmers are at risk for severe, potentially lifelong, respiratory issues as a result of spore inhalation.

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TIL I should be careful building reptile habitats at the pet store, considering my immune and respiratory system are already compromised (long COVId and resulting sleep apnea and asthma, and lifelong allergies before that). We use sphagnum moss to help with humidity retention.

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Uv shirt with a hood, nothing slathered on, they don't wash/sweat off, help keep you cool too.

source record 2816♥ 0
Later-arriving source

just being in the sun. so many people dont take skin care seriously and act like being tan is cute and at the same time like armor, like now they cant burn. skin cancer rates have exploded, but fortunately early detection has also improved so its not as fatal.

source record 2735♥ 0
Zero-like source

what do you think about those who have a reptile as a pet? Many times they are told to used sphagnum moss in their reptiles enclosures to retain a humidity pocket or hide. Do you recommend that or no?

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What the counts show

The one item with real volume here — bonsai and sphagnum moss — reads less like a settled hazard than a live myth-correction thread, where an infectious-disease physician and CDC-citing commenters repeatedly narrow an alarming inhalation claim down to a rare, skin-entry infection that mostly threatens immunocompromised people. Across the smaller items the actual danger is almost never the plant or activity itself but the exposure route — chemical residue on skin, cumulative sun-days, spore dust, misidentified fungi — and every fix offered is protective gear (gloves, masks, ventilation, UV clothing) rather than giving up the hobby.

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Arts and media5 records · 2 sub-topicsArts and media — 5 named hobbies/activities
Music, hearing, and performance4 index entries · 68 source recordsMusic, hearing, and performance — 4 named hobbies/activities, 68 source records
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Hobby or activity and its reported health risk: Music, hearing, and performance

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Bagpipes and other wind instruments
33 source records

What the pattern means: Commenters spend more time arguing about whether "bagpipe lung" is real than describing it, but a piper with a microbiology PhD settles the debate: hypersensitivity pneumonitis from fungal growth in unclean or unseasoned bags is documented back to the 1950s, not a single overblown death. The thread extends the same risk to any woodwind or brass mouthpiece that traps moisture, from saxophones to clarinets.

What commenters described: great cardio and core work

Limit: musicians should be aware of the dangers and be diligent about keeping their instruments clean

Instrument practice and performance
23 source records

What the pattern means: Musicians frame repetitive strain and noise exposure as a slow occupational hazard rather than one dramatic injury, citing tinnitus from unprotected amplifiers, clarinet-related dental wear, and tuba-linked "heart splits" as instrument-specific variations on the same overuse pattern. One guitarist practicing nine to ten hours daily found relief only after physiotherapy and technique coaching, suggesting the damage is manageable if caught early but not something good posture alone reliably prevents.

What commenters described: spent time with physiotherapists...and a pro jazz player to perfect my technique...and i can play fluidly with no tension all day!

Limit: it's important to practice good posture and proper gesture handling, but still, these do not prevent possibility for long term damage

DJing, concerts, and festivals
10 source records

What the pattern means: Festivalgoers and DJs converge on the same fix for noise-induced hearing loss: attenuating earplugs like Loop or Alpine musicsafe, which several say clarified rather than muffled the mix once they started wearing them. The warnings come from experience — one commenter's ears rang for hours after a single 45-minute set, and another notes that feeling fine afterward doesn't mean the damage isn't already done.

What commenters described: The sounds that are important are actually clearer with them in.

Limit: That you know of. This was a warning. Hearing damage happens over time.

Blacksmithing
2 source records

What the pattern means: The two blacksmiths who weigh in skip past the obvious burn and dust risks to flag a hazard most shop-safety advice misses: infrared radiation from a forge running past 2000°F, which can cause cataracts and corneal burns without any impact or spark ever touching the skin. Their fix borrows from glassblowing rather than metalworking — cotton sleeves and glassblower-style eyewear — alongside the more standard warning that hearing can be permanently damaged by a single hammer strike.

What commenters described: I wear thin cotton sleeves and special glasses used by glassbowers, that way I don't get cataracts or corneal burns.

Limit: Blacksmithing can permamently damage your hearing with one stroke of a hammer.

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Explicit limit or counterpoint

> luckily nothing permanent afterwards That you know of. This was a warning. Hearing damage happens over time.

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I stopped playing about a decade ago and my synthetic bag had a warning that if you season it the warranty was void. I just had to open it and let it dry.

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That's happened to me too, even sent me to the ER once. I've heard of the Alpine earplugs, and that they work well. I'll be sure to add those to my list too!

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Later-arriving source

Hypersensitivity pneumonitis doesn't sound fun at all

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Zero-like source

No it's when your lungs stop after they break into your home and smother you with a pillow at night while sleeping. (or in the morning, depending on what time you bagpiped)

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What the counts show

The clearest common thread here is that scary-sounding conditions like bagpipe lung, tuba-related "heart splits," and forge-radiation cataracts each turn out to have a specific, learnable fix (seasoning routines, technique coaching, protective eyewear) rather than being an unavoidable cost of the hobby. The sharpest disagreement is over how common bagpipe lung actually is, ranging from flat denial that it exists to a self-identified microbiologist citing 1950s medical literature.

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Screens, gaming, and sedentary hobbies1 index entry · 188 source recordsScreens, gaming, and sedentary hobbies — 1 named hobby, 188 source records
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Hobby or activity and its reported health risk: Screens, gaming, and sedentary hobbies

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Long sedentary screen-based hobbies
188 source records

What the pattern means: Commenters describe a two-track injury pattern across gaming, VR rhythm games, coding, and screen-bingeing: slow systemic wear from unbroken sitting (tight hip flexors, back pain, blood-clot worry) running alongside acute repetitive-strain injuries — gamer's thumb, tennis elbow from Beat Saber, shin splints from DDR — tied to the specific motion each hobby repeats. A recurring counterpoint is that the damage tracks total sedentary hours rather than the activity itself, since people who added standing desks, walking pads, or scheduled movement breaks report the same symptoms easing.

What commenters described: Got a $100 walking pad and stuck it in front of my TV while gaming on console and got a standing desk while gaming on PC. Long gaming sessions feel great because I'm walking the entire time at 3mph.

Limit: I think "the longer you do them" means doing something frequently for years, not doing something excessively. Gaming is hardly harmful, and far from "a silent killer" unless you become addicted.

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I see Asbestos warning signs everyday at work. I know it probably won’t harm me while it’s in the wall, but it still freaks me out sometimes.

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I was in the same boat as well. But then looked in the mirror and decided enough is enouhg. Decided to lose the weight(112kg to 83kg, took about 16months) and hit the gym recently to build up muscles. It has really boosted my self-esteem and my mood significantly. I still game at least 40 hours a week with a full time job, but never skip my workout days(4 days/week). Unfortunately, I cant say the same for my friends. They are all hardcore gameres as well, but i just couldn't convince them to join me on the journey.

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I think "the longer you do them" means doing something frequently for years, not doing something excessively. Gaming is hardly harmful, and far from "a silent killer" unless you become addicted.

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Video games, sitting for super long periods of time is terrible for your health, also a decent change it kills your marriage too if you have one.

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For watching TV series for long time. I remember that time I watched more than five seasons in on Day when off the screen it's like your back from another world

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What the counts show

The injuries people describe aren't generic posture complaints — they're named repetitive-strain conditions tied to specific motions (De Quervain's/"gamer's thumb" from controllers, tennis elbow from VR rhythm games, shin splints from dance pads), running alongside the slower systemic toll of just sitting still for hours. The fixes people say actually worked are concrete equipment swaps and movement snacks (a walking pad, a standing desk, five squats every half hour) rather than dropping the hobby, and a vocal minority pushes back that sedentary time itself, not any one hobby, is the real variable.

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Movement and outdoors57 records · 4 sub-topicsMovement and outdoors — 57 named hobbies/activities
Climbing, hiking, water, and adventure16 index entries · 177 source recordsClimbing, hiking, water, and adventure — 16 named hobbies/activities, 177 source records
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Hobby or activity and its reported health risk: Climbing, hiking, water, and adventure

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DIY gel nails
79 source records

What the pattern means: Commenters describe uncured gel polish sensitizing skin into a lifelong acrylate allergy that then cross-reacts with dental fillings, contact lenses, and other cosmetics — several specifically named the cheap Amazon brand Beetles as the trigger, while others found no reaction once they switched to professional-grade Gelish or OPI.

What commenters described: I had a reaction and immediately assumed I had this allergy but the allergy test was negative. The dermatologist suggested trying a better quality brand on just 1 finger and sure enough, no reaction to higher-end gel

Limit: Once the allergy develops it doesn't go away — several say it now blocks them from dental fillings, contact lenses, and other everyday adhesives, not just nail polish.

Rock, ice, and alpine climbing
36 source records

What the pattern means: Longtime climbers in this thread largely agree that rock and sport climbing are about as safe as you make them, but ice climbing, alpine routes, and the logistics of getting to and from a remote crag are where things actually turn fatal — several describe partners killed in falls over the years and warn that toxic 'faster is safer' habits around rappelling anchors are what get people hurt, not the climbing itself.

What commenters described: I started in my 50s after a bad car accident and spine injury. It not only brought me back but I'm stronger than I was in my 30s.

Limit: Even people defending the sport's safety admit a real culture problem: some climbers skip stopper knots on rappel to save thirty seconds, arguing faster is safer.

Skydiving and wingsuiting
30 source records

What the pattern means: The thread's core disagreement is scale, not danger: skydivers cite hard numbers (9 U.S. fatalities out of 3.88 million jumps in 2024) to argue plain skydiving is safer than driving to the airport, then break sharply with anyone who conflates that with base jumping or proximity wingsuit flying, which multiple commenters describe as almost a countdown to death once you take it up.

What commenters described: There are many people out there who have been skydiving for their entire lives, and have many thousands of skydives... If you do it relatively sanely and conservatively, it is easily a hobby that is done well into your 60s and 70s.

Limit: Wingsuiting from an aircraft is described as reasonably safe only after 200 to 400 prior skydives of experience; proximity flying near cliffs and terrain is where commenters say the odds flip entirely.

Sailing and boating
14 source records

What the pattern means: Every substantive comment on sailing circles back to sun, not water — commenters call unprotected time on deck a bigger long-term threat than storms or drowning, and one sailor describes a mild 63-degree day turning into a week-long recovery from second-degree sunburn after forgetting sunscreen just once.

What commenters described: We have these UVF shirts/clothing now. I don't understand how come everyone isn't wearing them all the time.

Limit: A tangent about the '107% five-year melanoma survival rate' shows even the reassuring statistic is misleading — commenters trace it to healthcare access and repeat-diagnosis counting rather than the disease being harmless.

Surfing
5 source records

What the pattern means: Surfing's discussion splits into two lesser-known risks beyond sunburn: a cardiologist's observation that older surfers can go from resting in cold water to sudden all-out paddling and trigger heart attacks, and 'surfer's ear' bone growth that several commenters needed drilled or chiseled out after decades in cold water, describing eight-week recoveries and the risk of it regrowing if you go back too soon.

What commenters described: It was a game changer. Way less stressful going surfing.

Limit: One commenter warns the bone growth can regrow faster after surgery, and a friend who went back to surfing before being cleared by the surgeon ran into complications.

Campfires and wood stoves
2 source records

What the pattern means: Both comments here focus on cumulative smoke exposure rather than any single dramatic incident — one person traces a lifetime of wood-stove and campfire smoke back to childhood and has since switched entirely to electric heat, while the other still enjoys campfires but now treats the smoke like something to wash off, not just breathe through.

What commenters described: I love having campfires and making charcoal. I just use breathing protection and have a shower afterwards.

Road-tripping and long-distance driving
2 source records

What the pattern means: The two entries here don't describe a specific injury so much as a slow accumulation — one commenter frames long-distance driving as dangerous mainly because of the hours of sitting, stress, and poor road-food habits it normalizes over years, while the other states flatly that the mileage itself wears down health without elaborating why.

Limit: The longer comment is explicit that it's the imbalance — sitting, skipped sleep, no exercise — that does the damage, so the same warning gets applied to gaming, coding, or any sedentary hobby taken to excess.

Gunsmithing
1 source record

What the pattern means: A former hobbyist-turned-professional gunsmith lays out an almost overwhelming inventory of everyday exposures — CNC coolant, heat-treating and welding fumes, bluing residues, metal dust that gets past respirators, cosmoline from old rifles, wood and fiberglass finishes — on top of broken fingers and out-of-battery explosions, and now attributes a lymphoma diagnosis to nine years of accumulated contact with all of it.

Limit: He's not certain the lymphoma is from gunsmithing specifically, but says knowing what he knows now, he wouldn't take up the hobby again the way he did.

Bus surfing
1 source record

What the pattern means: This one is a single bare mention — no elaboration on method or outcome — but bus surfing (riding atop or clinging to the outside of a moving bus) is one of the few entries in this list where the raw comment gives no specifics beyond naming the activity itself.

DIY auto mechanics
1 source record

What the pattern means: A self-described DIY mechanic points out a gap between common practice and real protection: gloves have become normal in the garage, but the same person notes almost nobody bothers with a respirator even though most of the toxic exposure comes from what gets sprayed or inhaled, not touched.

Limit: Gloves are described as common, but almost nobody is wearing masks consistently, even though inhalation is called a route of exposure alongside skin contact.

Whitewater kayaking
1 source record

What the pattern means: Like a couple of other adventure sports on this list, whitewater kayaking appears here as a one-word nomination with no supporting narrative — it's named as a risk but the raw comment stops there, unlike the multi-comment threads on climbing or sailing where people actually explain what goes wrong.

Backpacking and thru-hiking
1 source record

What the pattern means: One experienced thru-hiker pushes back on the idea that racking up hike after hike makes backcountry travel predictable, pointing to several acquaintances who ended up lost or stranded and were only recovered because they got lucky.

Limit: Their stated rule is to treat every outing as its own experience rather than assume past smooth trips guarantee this one will go the same way — in their words, 'every hike is to respected as its own experience.'

Homebrewing
1 source record

What the pattern means: The single supporting comment on homebrewing skips the equipment and sanitation angle entirely and goes straight for the metabolic one: liquid calories from beer displacing actual food intake, plus the cumulative liver and skin toll of regular alcohol consumption over years.

Mountain biking
1 source record

What the pattern means: The lone comment on mountain biking is a blunt anecdote about attrition rather than a specific injury type: the commenter says every person they personally know who took up the sport eventually quit because of injuries, not boredom or cost.

Drag performance
1 source record

What the pattern means: The single comment on drag performance names two separate wear points rather than one: adhesives used for wigs and makeup breaking down skin over time, and the physical toll of the dance choreography itself, which the commenter says has led numerous performers to hip and knee replacements.

Skiing
1 source record

What the pattern means: The commenter here is less concerned with warning others than pointing out an omission — they note skiing hadn't come up yet in the thread before describing their own accident: a depressed tibial plateau fracture, torn MCL, torn meniscus, and 2.5cm of lost bone from a single fall in February.

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Careful doing any painting. Almost all house paints are acrylic latex blends. Be careful using any spray paints as well.

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It's kind of terrible how easily available these gel sets are for general consumers. People are buying them for their kids, practicing on friends, and following zero safety precautions. Even more shocking is how many ignore or straight up get mad at people warning them or telling them how to practice safely.

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Nobody would expect base jumping to be dangerous.

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Was just thinking that. I mean, I think everyone kind of knew it would happen eventually, but even still. And with a passenger, which just makes it more tragic.

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Ya I’m using plugs religiously now. The only thing that makes me apprehensive about surgery is I heard it can just grow back faster. That and sometimes the drill can get away from the surgeon haha. Edit to add: If I remember right the surgeon wanted to do both chisel and drill but it’s been a few years since we talked

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What the counts show

Across this category, the actual danger commenters describe rarely matches the hobby's popular image: skydiving's real fatality math undercuts its scary reputation while base jumping earns its own, and climbers, surfers, and sailors mostly get hurt by chronic sun, chemical, or logistical exposure rather than the headline activity itself. Evidence depth is also wildly uneven — gel nails, climbing, and skydiving draw dozens of detailed, sometimes arguing comments, while several other items (bus surfing, whitewater kayaking, mountain biking) rest on a single bare-bones line with no elaboration at all.

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Other hobbies and mixed physical risks31 index entries · 260 source recordsOther hobbies and mixed physical risks — 31 named hobbies/activities, 260 source records
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Hobby or activity and its reported health risk: Other hobbies and mixed physical risks

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Shooting and indoor gun ranges
60 source records

What the pattern means: Long-time reloaders and range regulars split into two camps here: casual indoor shooters who accumulate lead from primer dust and brass residue, and decades-long bullet casters who wet-tumble, glove up, and get blood-tested clean; several also flag concussive blast waves in enclosed bays as a brain-injury risk distinct from the lead itself.

What commenters described: I switched to wet tumbling and using gloves and a lead soap and test for lead at every checkup and it's resolved.

Limit: A buddy of mine has only been shooting for like 4 years, already has elevated lead levels.

Alcohol tasting and cocktail making
32 source records

What the pattern means: Buried among dozens of one-word confessions like 'Drinking,' the handful of elaborated replies trace concrete costs -- gastritis that ended one commenter's cocktail habit, a colon-cancer scare tied to years of chasing the perfect whisky -- while someone else jokes that quiet at-home drinking might be the safest hobby on this whole list.

What commenters described: After reading this, i am pretty sure drinking a couple beers alone, at-home, a few nights a week is one of the safest hobbies i could have.

Limit: I used to love cocktails. I have gastritis now... I've accepted alcohol isn't part of my life anymore.

Base jumping
32 source records

What the pattern means: Nearly every substantive reply here comes from skydivers, not base jumpers, insisting on a hard split between their own sport -- millions of jumps a year with single-digit fatalities -- and base jumping or 'proxy flying,' which multiple commenters with hundreds of real jumps describe as a fundamentally different, far less forgiving activity.

Limit: One commenter cites a documentary in which a jumper says that once you progress to a squirrel/wingsuit, you've effectively got about six months before something goes fatally wrong.

Urban exploration
31 source records

What the pattern means: The stories that stick here are specific ones: kids who unknowingly played dodgeball inside a room thick with disturbed asbestos dust, scrappers killed by radioactive metal pocketed from an abandoned facility, and explorers who lost consciousness in oxygen-depleted basements without ever sensing the gas building around them.

What commenters described: getting older I find myself more and more choosing "safer" places with good ventilation... Safe spots can be cool to explore too, no need to get yourself in (health) danger.

Limit: afaik FFP2 won't filter asbestos ; for an asbestos-ridden visit go for FFP3.

Beekeeping
26 source records

What the pattern means: A commercial beekeeper who's worked hives since the late sixties gives the most detailed account in this whole set: he's cut his hive count from eighty down to fifteen after developing anaphylaxis four decades in, watched roughly a dozen colleagues quit for the same reason, and still keeps an epi-pen on hand because desensitization treatment only works for under half the people who try it.

What commenters described: 3rd year -- never been stung in the full suit.

Limit: the success rate of the commercial beekeepers who've done this is less than 50%.

Motorcycling
16 source records

What the pattern means: The instructor's-eye comments are the sharpest here: one MSF trainer describes learning to 'emotionally wash his hands' of students he already suspects won't survive, while others point out that the fatal pattern isn't recklessness alone so much as slowing reflexes and heat strokes catching up with riders as they age into their fifties and sixties.

Glassblowing
12 source records

What the pattern means: Commenters are careful to note this isn't just torch work -- stained glass, fused glass, and kiln-fired enamel all carry the same silicosis risk -- and one person recalls two acquaintances developing metal poisoning from poor ventilation, describing the recovery in their own words as 'very rough.'

Historical hat making
9 source records

What the pattern means: Multiple replies converge on correcting the same assumption: the mercury-in-felt process behind 'mad as a hatter' hasn't been used in generations, so this reads less like an active hobby risk and more like trivia that occasionally trips up people dabbling in historical reenactment.

Limit: modern hat making does not use mercury anymore; the felting technique that caused it fell out of use once cheaper synthetic alternatives became available.

Frequent hobby baking with flour
4 source records

What the pattern means: The thread actually argues with itself over dose: one person doubts hobbyists who bake a few hours a week could develop 'baker's lung' the way professionals working eight-hour shifts do, and gets a blunt reply that it's constant exposure, not job title, that determines the outcome.

Limit: No, it's from being constantly exposed.

Bodybuilding and heavy weight training
4 source records

What the pattern means: Only four comments sit under this entry, but they split cleanly along the same fault line as the sport itself: heavy joint and disc damage clustered around lifters who are 'juicing,' against one person's flat claim that their own bodybuilding hobby is 'boring and safe' precisely because they aren't.

Limit: So glad my hobby in body building is boring and safe lol.

Restoring old cars
3 source records

What the pattern means: One detailed reply lists the hobby's slow-burn hazards -- exhaust fumes, gas and oil on skin, sanding dust, paint -- then pivots to a crash risk that's arguably worse now: vintage cars lack modern crash structures, so owners describe scheduling drives for early-morning low-traffic hours or trailering their cars to shows just to avoid getting T-boned by a distracted SUV driver.

What commenters described: Most vintage car guys I know only drive their old cars to very early morning shows (when there is the lowest commuter traffic) or bring those old cars in trailers towed by modern pickups or SUVs.

Espresso and high caffeine intake
3 source records

What the pattern means: The two replies here talk past each other rather than agreeing: one flags arrhythmias from overdoing espresso specifically, while another counters with research suggesting up to five cups of coffee a day is not just safe but mildly beneficial, leaving where exactly the line sits genuinely unresolved.

What commenters described: Up to 5 cups of coffee per day is scientifically proven to be safe, and even slightly beneficial to health in otherwise healthy individuals.

Limit: Espresso. Too much can give you arrhythmias.

Archery
3 source records

What the pattern means: This brief exchange treats archery's shoulder wear almost as an aside, with one reply drawing a direct comparison to firearms: arrows aren't nearly as lethal as guns, but the same call for careful handling still applies.

Mercury fire gilding
3 source records

What the pattern means: The single detailed comment traces fire gilding back to boiling mercury together with gold to restore antique clocks, a craft referenced on the podcast 'S-Town,' and stresses that without serious ventilation the vapor causes both neurological damage and, eventually, insanity.

Limit: it needs massive ventilation or you can have some later in life major issues both mental and physical.

Circle-track racing
2 source records

What the pattern means: One racer describes melting their own lead ballast outdoors on breezy days in full PPE, though only twice in ten years, while a second reply points to a bigger, external harm entirely: leaded racetrack fuel still legally burned at tracks correlates with measurably lower IQ in children who live nearby.

What commenters described: Outside on a breezy day, in an open field with PPE is how we roll.

Limit: Leaded fuel is still allowed at racetracks also, and there is demonstrably lower IQ in children who live near them.

Freediving
2 source records

What the pattern means: The single line here captures what sets freediving apart from most entries on this list: there's no gradual warning system, just an invisible personal limit that a diver only discovers by going past it.

Dry caving
2 source records

What the pattern means: Beyond flagging radon exposure underground, the caver drawing on years of experience makes a quieter point almost by omission: they've stuck strictly to dry caving, and note that the longer they've been in the community, the fewer cave divers -- the wetter, riskier offshoot -- they still know.

Cooking without ventilation
2 source records

What the pattern means: One commenter takes the 'lung damage from unventilated cooking' claim seriously enough to act on it, cutting BBQ, grilling, and kimchi-making down to a few occasions a year and estimating, from their own reading, that it dropped their lung and stomach cancer risk from roughly ten percent to four.

What commenters described: I've stopped BBQing and grilling, except for a couple times a year... it sounds like I reduced my risk of lung and stomach cancer from 10% to like 4%.

Graffiti and aerosol art
2 source records

What the pattern means: Past the blunt 'respiratory killer' label, the more affecting detail is secondhand: a legendary graffiti writer reportedly said, in a clip several commenters point to, that he'd trade all his fame and friendships to get his health back.

Amateur telescope making
1 source record

What the pattern means: The lone account here isn't really about optics at all -- it's a father who built large telescopes and cast his own lead counterweights on the stovetop in the garage, the kind of improvised metalworking step that rarely gets mentioned alongside the mirror-grinding itself.

Daguerreotype photography
1 source record

What the pattern means: A single terse line pins the danger squarely on the historical process itself: it's the mercury vapor given off during daguerreotype development, not photography in general, that does the damage.

Hang gliding
1 source record

What the pattern means: This entry rides in as a one-line aside tacked onto a discussion of veteran risk-takers elsewhere in the thread, with a commenter noting that the same pattern of seasoned pilots pushing limits applies to hang gliders too.

Trampolining
1 source record

What the pattern means: The single supporting comment reads like a checklist of compounding harm: lower back and neck strain from repeated G-forces, possible brain effects from those same forces, and, separately, broken bones from falls off the mat entirely.

Clowning and talc use
1 source record

What the pattern means: The condition gets its own nickname in the one comment here -- 'clown lung' -- attributed directly to years of breathing in loose talc powder used for makeup and costume work.

Deep-sea and scuba diving
1 source record

What the pattern means: This entry has almost nothing behind it beyond a bare two-word mention, offering no mechanism, no anecdote, and no counterpoint to weigh against the label.

Rock knapping
1 source record

What the pattern means: The commenter files rock knapping under a pattern they'd already been tracking across the thread, describing it as one more dust craft that 'joins the litany' of hobbies causing silicosis if you skip a mask.

Backpacking with mouth-inflated sleeping pads
1 source record

What the pattern means: Tucked into a reply about a different lung condition, one commenter adds that backpackers who habitually inflate their sleeping pads by mouth rather than with a pump can develop the same issue from the repeated exertion.

Hunting
1 source record

What the pattern means: The one comment here locates the danger less in the animals or terrain than in fellow hunters, framing accidental encounters with other armed people nearby as hunting's real everyday hazard.

Parkour
1 source record

What the pattern means: Parkour shows up as a single unelaborated word dropped into the thread, with no supporting detail about falls, joint wear, or anything else to substantiate why it belongs on this particular list.

Skateboarding
1 source record

What the pattern means: The one supporting line frames skateboarding's risk as cumulative rather than acute, arguing that serious, long-term skaters rack up an 'insane' volume of injuries over the years rather than facing a single dramatic wipeout.

Bobsledding
1 source record

What the pattern means: The single comment pairs the danger with genuine enthusiasm rather than regret, warning that bobsled speeds and whiplash can damage the brain and spine while still calling the whole thing, in the same breath, 'lots of fun.'

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I've definitely climbed up a building just to discover asbestos warning signs. We were some dumb kids who didn't stop to wonder why a building was wrapped in plastic.

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"Are they getting stung for years without issue and then they suffer with anaphylactic shock". Yes, however it can be one's first sting too. Also, it's not uncommon to get stung many times at once in the same area after the first bee marks one with a defensive pheromone. It's not uncommon to get stung many times while working bees. It's a good day when one doesn't get stung but rare. The courses I teach include working hands-on in an apiary/bee yard. I've had two students get stung over the years and need immediate treatment out of hundreds who've taken my classes. Hence the need for carrying an epi-pen while teaching. I'm also a commercial beekeeper and have at least a dozen friends over the years have to sell their business due to developing anaphylactic shock unfortunately.

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Nobody would expect base jumping to be dangerous.

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Drinking is my hobby, I think it’s harmful the longer you do it

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Drinking. Coke. Heroin. I mean, they're all fun... But they can lead to negative events.

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The clearest split in this category is between exposure that builds silently over years -- lead from reloading, silica from glasswork, mercury from historical hatting or fire gilding, anaphylaxis from repeated bee stings -- where long-practicing hobbyists who ventilate, glove up, and test themselves routinely report no problems, and acute-risk activities like base jumping, hang gliding, and bobsledding, where practitioners themselves describe the danger as immediate and already well understood rather than something a dose builds toward. A handful of entries (parkour, deep-sea diving, hunting) barely have any supporting detail behind them at all.

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Running, cycling, and endurance3 index entries · 57 source recordsRunning, cycling, and endurance — 3 named hobbies/activities, 57 source records
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Cave diving
23 source records

What the pattern means: Commenters converge on cave diving as the go-to answer for a hobby that quietly kills its most devoted practitioners, citing a scuba instructor's blunt warning and the death of Sheck Exley, author of the sport's own safety manual, at 45. A dissenting diver argues the reputation is overblown once you've actually done the wide-open cavern dives most certifications cover.

What commenters described: If anything goes wrong, you have the rest of your life to sort it out

Limit: One diver pushed back on the doom narrative: most cave diving is not excessively dangerous once you realize most certified dives are wide, open sinkholes rather than tight passages.

Endurance sports
22 source records

What the pattern means: Endurance sport comments split almost evenly between a cardiology case against overtraining — AFib, myocardial fibrosis, aortic stenosis, calcification — and a rebuttal that VO2 max is the strongest predictor of longevity and that moderate mileage is nowhere near the same risk as extreme volume. A few commenters add practical fallout like knee wear, brain fog from dehydration, and friends who look older than they should.

What commenters described: the health benefits of training and staying in shape are far better for you than being a couch potato

Limit: It also causes a great deal of oxidative stress, which can lead to cancer. I know several hard core marathon runners who died young from cancer.

Cycling
12 source records

What the pattern means: The dominant risk cyclists describe isn't the bike itself but drivers — a fatal hit-and-run on day one of a cross-country trip and repeated asides that it's the trucks, not the sport — while an unsourced claim about elevated cancer rates from tire and brake dust draws immediate skepticism. Two commenters separately credit switching to a recumbent trike with fixing chronic back and knee pain that upright riding had aggravated.

What commenters described: If I am riding regularly I am limber and have little back pain.

Limit: He was an experienced cyclist, but he was bumped off on the first day by a Ford F150 out in the middle of nowhere.

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I'm so sorry to hear that. People drive like maniacs in the middle of nowhere. :(

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Indeed. I recently lost a cousin who was on day one of a bicycle trip across half the country. He was an experienced cyclist, but he was bumped off on the first day by a Ford F150 out in the middle of nowhere.

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Damn it, if only I'd have know that could be deadly I wouldn't have gone deep diving in the still water pool at Chernobyl

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Across cave diving, endurance sports, and cycling, the loudest doom claims keep getting matched by someone with direct experience pushing back — an instructor noting most certified cave dives are wide-open sinkholes, a rebuttal that VO2 max outweighs any AFib risk, a demand for a source on the cyclist cancer-rate claim. The one danger nobody disputes is the external kind: getting hit by a truck or car shows up as the actual cause of death in the real anecdotes shared here, not the exertion itself.

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Strength, sport, and repetitive strain7 index entries · 184 source recordsStrength, sport, and repetitive strain — 7 named hobbies/activities, 185 source records
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Hobby or activity and its reported health risk: Strength, sport, and repetitive strain

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Combat sports involving strikes or grappling
76 source records

What the pattern means: Long threads split combat-sports risk into two separate tracks: cumulative head trauma — concussions, CTE, dementia pugilistica — from boxing, kickboxing, judo throws, and BJJ chokes, and blunt orthopedic wear like a C5-C6 disc replacement, wrecked knees and necks, plus recurring mat infections like staph and ringworm.

What commenters described: C-5-C-6 disc replacement thanks to rolling, loved it but only got a year and blue belt before that surgery ended my hobby

Limit: Several practitioners push back that the damage isn't inevitable, pointing to hard-sparring frequency and technique as the deciding factor — one commenter's rule of thumb is one hard spar every six weeks, still toned down to the head.

Repetitive crafting and sewing
47 source records

What the pattern means: Specific crafts map to specific injuries here — hand-sewn leather and crochet to wrist and finger arthritis, embroidery to a wrecked neck, hours of still needlepoint to genuine deep-vein-thrombosis risk — and commenters trade real physical-therapy fixes alongside the complaints.

What commenters described: one of my biggest hobbies is crochet, but it causes a lot of strain on my neck, shoulders, back, and of course fingers/hands. i can only do it for maybe 30min a day now

Limit: A physical therapist quoted in the thread frames it as a fixable technique problem — shift load to the shoulders and elbows instead of the wrists, set the work at proper ergonomic height, and the strain eases.

Gambling and sports betting
37 source records

What the pattern means: Commenters describe sports betting less as physical strain and more as a dopamine trap that pays out the same whether you win or lose, with one account of a homeowner secretly borrowing from coworkers and her boss before the house itself was gone.

What commenters described: She borrowed money from her coworkers and boss because she was worried about losing her house.

Limit: Some commenters flatly reject that gambling counts as a hobby at all, while others insist casual sports betting is exactly that — a genuine disagreement about where the line even sits.

Golf
15 source records

What the pattern means: Golf's danger here has nothing to do with the swing: several commenters point to herbicide and pesticide runoff on courses as a driver of Parkinson's and dementia risk, distinguishing exposure for people who live beside a course from the lighter dose a weekend golfer picks up walking it.

What commenters described: Exposure to the herbicides used on golf courses has been found to increase the incidence of Parkinson’s

Limit: One commenter notes their father golfed weekly for decades with no Parkinson's diagnosis and no other risk factors, explicitly flagging it as a single case rather than evidence either way.

Digital art and animation
5 source records

What the pattern means: A professional animator's account carries this entry: six years of prop design and after-hours drawing left her 40 percent disabled in the neck and shoulder blade despite an active, non-sedentary life outside the studio, and she can no longer draw for fun at all.

What commenters described: I developed a repetitive stress injury that left me 40% disabled in my neck and shoulder blade... I no longer draw for fun, I can't. The pain is still there and it is debilitating.

Limit: She notes she wasn't even sedentary — playing sports, dancing, and hitting the gym regularly — which undercuts the assumption that general fitness offsets this kind of repetitive fine-motor strain.

Dynamic athletic sports
3 source records

What the pattern means: This entry never gets more specific than "sports": three separate commenters name athletic activity in general rather than any one discipline, agreeing only that the wear compounds with age and that a single bad injury can end your ability to exercise for good.

What commenters described: All dynamic, athletic sports are great for you until you get an injury that renders you unable to exercise for the rest of your life

Rugby and contact field sports
2 source records

What the pattern means: Rugby shows up here as a single bare one-word nomination, sitting next to a longer reply that actually names boxing, kickboxing, MMA, and heading a football as the head-trauma culprits, leaving rugby's own risk unstated beyond the implication of belonging on that list.

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I’ve been hand Sewing leather for about five years and my right wrist is pretty messed up from it. I try to be careful. my sister is a physical therapist has given me many tips and pointers to minimize damage.

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I would add get some good, well-fitted compression gloves... The fingerless ones that extend to a few inches past your wrist. In my experience with knee, wrist, and vein issues has been to compress before the warning pains start coming, and also heed the warning pains before actual damage is done.

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Regular golfing results in increased chances of dementia. Turns out spending time in a field that's regularly covered in neurotoxins isn't so great for you.

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Yeh you have to be healthy to be able to show up and enjoy it so that’s the no 1 priority for me. Can’t train have fun with other hobbies if your broken.

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Are we the same? Neck, Hip, and Knee injuries. I'm only 31 🙃 This decade is gonna be a lot of preventative/corrective strength training and rehab, otherwise the longevity just isn't gonna be there.

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This category splits cleanly into contact-and-strain risks and non-obvious ones: combat sports and rugby center on cumulative head and joint trauma, crafting and digital art center on fine-motor repetitive strain with concrete ergonomic fixes on offer, while golf and gambling turn out to be risks that have nothing to do with exertion at all — pesticide exposure on one side, dopamine-driven financial ruin on the other. Coverage depth is just as uneven as the risk types themselves: crafting and combat sports draw long, experience-based threads, while dynamic athletic sports and rugby barely rise above a name dropped into a list.

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Workshop and making33 records · 3 sub-topicsWorkshop and making — 33 named hobbies/activities
Needlework, models, and detailed craft8 index entries · 56 source recordsNeedlework, models, and detailed craft — 8 named hobbies/activities, 56 source records
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Hobby or activity and its reported health risk: Needlework, models, and detailed craft

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Lead-using crafts, casting, and ammunition reloading
30 source records

What the pattern means: This entry chains together crafts that share almost nothing except the metal itself — stained-glass solder, reloaded ammunition, lead-counterweight casting for home telescopes, even decades-old Warhammer figures — with reloaders and glassworkers describing measurably elevated blood-lead levels from handling dust and fumes rather than any single dramatic event.

What commenters described: The grinding should be done with a wet sponge to eliminate dust. You could wear a mask for flux fumes - ventilation is ideal. Don't put the lead solder in your mouth, near food/drink, wash your hands afterward.

Limit: Lead-free solder exists, but old-school stained-glass hobbyists reportedly still prefer working in lead, and even careful reloaders describe elevated lead levels as a common outcome of the hobby rather than a rare mishap.

Scale-model building
9 source records

What the pattern means: Miniature painters and modelers describe a slow-motion physical toll rather than a single injury — glue fumes triggering nosebleeds and, in one account, lasting tics in a former professional model-maker, compounding with the hunched sedentary posture of hours spent leaning over a small brush.

What commenters described: The glue will give me a nose bleed, even with multiple fans for ventilation. I use a mask now. And I try not to sit painting for more than an hour at a time.

Limit: A good share of the supporting comments are jokes about Warhammer, Magic the Gathering, and Gunpla draining wallets and shelf space rather than physical-harm claims, so the actual health evidence rests on a smaller subset describing glue fumes and posture damage.

Bone, antler, and shell crafting
7 source records

What the pattern means: Shell and bone carvers surface a hazard most people wouldn't guess — dust from pearl shell, mussel shell, or even eggshell settling in the lungs over decades — with one account tracing a specific case of heavy-metal poisoning to shells that had absorbed pollution before ever reaching the crafter's workshop.

What commenters described: Pearl shell cutting and polishing causes silicosis of the lungs. Bone and horn also bad.

Limit: Because it's pretty rare to do, it's not a well-known hazard, but in retrospect it makes sense — several commenters admit they'd never heard of shell-dust lung damage until seeing this thread.

Textile and fiber crafting
5 source records

What the pattern means: Fiber crafters keep circling back to a single mechanism — airborne lint and fur particles rather than any chemical — with fursuit makers and cosplayers who shave faux fur singled out as facing the heaviest exposure and coining it 'groomer's lung.'

What commenters described: If you don't wear a mask when shaving hair/fur you can develop what's called "groomer's lung" from inhaling the tiny hair particles that fly into the air.

Limit: Cosplay accounts blur the picture further, folding in resin fumes and needle-stick injuries alongside fiber inhalation rather than treating fur dust as the only hazard in the craft.

Jewelry smithing and brazing
2 source records

What the pattern means: The two accounts here describe entirely different injury types on the same craft — a skin reaction to raw metal that inexplicably resolved on its own, and, for a wire jeweler, a repetitive-strain injury so severe it ended her career by 25 and needed two surgeries.

What commenters described: Now they're fine. This is not because anything I was doing changed, I just stopped having a skin reaction to whatever was bothering me.

Limit: Not every case resolves as easily: a separate account describes a wire jeweler whose carpal tunnel syndrome ended her jewelry-making entirely, with lingering issues 15 years after her two surgeries.

Shoemaking and leather bottoming
1 source record

What the pattern means: The lone account of hand-bottoming shoes zeroes in on one very specific mechanism: yanking waxed thread taut through leather so many thousand times that it can permanently curl the hand into what the commenter calls 'trigger fingers,' not from a single mistake but from sheer repetition.

What commenters described: Shoemaking (especially bottoming - sewing on the soles by hand) can wreck the nerves in your hands irreparably as you pull the threads so hard so many times making a pair. You can get something called "trigger fingers" where your hands are curled like claws.

Perler-bead crafting
1 source record

What the pattern means: The single nomination for perler beads is about the ironing step, not the beads themselves — heat releasing fumes that a commenter warns accumulate to harmful levels in any room without proper airflow.

What commenters described: When you iron them, toxic fumes will build if there's no proper ventilation. Long-term exposure to these vapors can cause damage to our body.

Textile dyeing
1 source record

What the pattern means: Textile dyeing's single mention distinguishes between fiber types rather than treating dye as one hazard — protein fibers like wool needing a sustained acid boil are flagged as the riskier process compared to plant-based cotton dyeing.

What commenters described: If you dye either plant based fibers like cotton or animal fibers like wool, you need ppe and ventilation, especially with wool and other protein based fibers that need a sustained boil with an acid.

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textiles, if you dye either plant based fibers like cotton or animal fibers like wool, you need ppe and ventilation, especially with wool and other protein based fibers that need a sustained boil with an acid. i guess any type of craft or art medium listen your instructor and/or other warning labels

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Thankfully I only use the handgun range. You can hear the blasts shake through the walls though and that shit is crazy. I feel bad for the employees there now more than anything.

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I’ve seen one in my lifetime so far; older indoor range that had it posted on the door and at the counter that their backstop was only rated for velocities at or below 1600 FPS; so .22 rimfire and certain PCC’s were allowed, but most centerfire rifles couldn’t be shot at that range.

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Stained glass...for the love of God make sure you vent while soldering the lead

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Lead exposure dominates this category by sheer volume — its 30 records span everything from stained glass to ammunition reloading to homemade telescope counterweights — while every other item here rests on a handful of accounts or just one; across items, fine-particle inhalation (shell dust, glue fumes, fiber lint, zinc fumes) is the recurring mechanism, with only shoemaking and wire jewelry pointing instead to repetitive-strain nerve damage.

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Resins, solvents, dust, and fumes16 index entries · 305 source recordsResins, solvents, dust, and fumes — 16 named hobbies/activities, 305 source records
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Resin crafting and resin 3D printing
109 source records

What the pattern means: Two separate harms run through this thread: solvent and VOC fumes that irritate the lungs during long print or cure sessions, and a cumulative acrylate contact allergy that can eventually end someone's participation entirely. Once posters took the risk seriously, the fix was consistent — a sealed enclosure, exhaust fan, and an actual respirator cartridge, not a paper mask.

What commenters described: I have an enclosure around mine with ducting and a $20 extractor fan propped outside my garage that runs 24/7. Works great... Basically $100 and the problem goes away.

Limit: Ventilation doesn't fully solve it — one commenter described a coworker whose acrylate allergy got so severe she had to wear driving gloves just to touch her own steering wheel.

Oil painting
63 source records

What the pattern means: Long-time oil painters describe a spectrum of solvent damage, from nosebleeds and career-ending sensitivities to old-timers who can't pinpoint what's wrong but insist “something ain't right” after years of gamsol exposure. Several responded not by adjusting technique but by abandoning the medium outright, switching to acrylic or water-mixable oils.

What commenters described: Water-mixable oils are more commercially available now, though they've been around since the 80s. This is what I use as they don't require solvents, which I have a high sensitivity for.

Limit: Odorless mineral spirits like gamsol remove the smell that would normally prompt someone to ventilate, so people report getting an irritated throat and dizziness from exactly the solvent they assumed was the safe one.

Hobby electronics and soldering
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What the pattern means: This thread turns into an actual physics argument over whether lead vaporizes below its boiling point, and the chemistry commenters walk through shows toxic lead oxide forming around 482°C — well under solder's 1,740°C boiling point and squarely within reach of the cheap, uncalibrated irons many hobbyists run hot.

What commenters described: I've been making and building electronics for 20 years, and had significant exposure to acetone... and isopropyl alcohol... I'm also extremely asthmatic. Neither has caused any worsening of my condition or an attack. You'd have to really confine yourself for extremely long periods.

Limit: Cheap soldering irons often lack any temperature gauge and get cranked to max wattage for bigger joints, so a hobbyist can be well past the recommended sub-450°C threshold without ever knowing it.

Recreational flying
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What the pattern means: Pilots flag leaded avgas as an occupational exposure most outsiders don't associate with flying, noting the FAA's 2030 phase-out target is running into real compatibility and corrosion problems with unleaded replacements. Others worked through the actual numbers and put general aviation's death rate at roughly twice motorcycling's per year, a gap that narrows once pilot error gets factored out.

What commenters described: The apples-to-apples stats show very similar risk per hour of GA flying and motorcycle riding. If you remove pilot error from GA, it goes down 50%.

Limit: Radiation exposure for flight crew is real but poorly tracked — one commenter noted the lack of US monitoring data means claims linking it to specific cancer cases stay anecdotal rather than confirmed.

Pottery and ceramics
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What the pattern means: Potters here draw a firm line between casual hobbyists, who most agree face low silicosis risk because it's dose-dependent, and production potters or factory workers who don't get that cushion. The fix people describe isn't specialized gear so much as habit — wet-mopping the studio so dried clay dust never becomes airborne in the first place.

What commenters described: My understanding is that hobby potters are at very little risk of silicosis in most cases. Production potters (and anyone else who works with silica materials as a profession) are the ones really at risk without proper PPE.

Limit: Old glaze supplies carry a separate hazard wet-mopping can't fix — one commenter mentioned finding literal thorium mixed into inherited materials.

Stone carving and ceramic dust work
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What the pattern means: Formal training — art school ceramics, a stone-carving class — comes through as genuinely rigorous here, down to a professor whose own chest X-ray reportedly showed glittering flecks of powdered glass in her lungs. Tradespeople doing the same dusty cutting outside that training show the opposite habit, with several commenters describing contractors who dry-cut tile in driveways despite knowing better.

What commenters described: Next one you do get a saw shack. It's a tarped enclosure for your wet saw.

Limit: An N95 isn't rated for asbestos-contaminated material — commenters distinguish it from the P100 that's actually needed when cutting older tile of unknown composition.

Burning Man and desert festivals
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What the pattern means: Playa dust gets top billing for the physical toll, on both lungs and gear, but the comments spend just as much time on how one week in the desert balloons into a year-round cycle of precompression, decompression, fundraisers, and regional burns for anyone actually running a camp.

What commenters described: You CAN definitely just show up with some camping gear and food / water for a week and have fun with minimal work, but for many burners it is a hobby that takes up a shitload of time.

Fire breathing and fire eating
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What the pattern means: The danger performers describe isn't the obvious one — catching fire — it's aspirating unignited fuel droplets into the lungs, summed up by one instructor's warning that it's “not IF you'll get chemical pneumonitis, it's WHEN.” That line alone was enough to push at least one commenter to quit the hobby, even after already switching to a safer fuel.

What commenters described: Ultra pure lamp oil is safest (swallowing small amounts isn't seen as a significant health risk).

Limit: Even properly distilled lamp oil isn't risk-free — one performer noted its high LD50 doesn't account for chronic exposure, so repeated internal contact still isn't good for you.

Hair, makeup, and nail cosmetology
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What the pattern means: The exposure gap here runs backward from what a client might assume — gloves protect a stylist's hands, but it's their lungs absorbing the ongoing dose from hairspray, keratin fumes, and perm chemicals, with one commenter's aunt developing COPD despite barely smoking. A former salon owner adds that nail-chemical regulation is thin across the EU, US, and elsewhere alike.

Limit: One former salon owner is careful to separate the nail-thinning fungal damage from repeated use — real, but “not a real killer, just a health issue” — from the cancer-linked chemical exposure she considers the bigger concern.

Farm-animal and feed-dust exposure
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What the pattern means: One commenter's own diagnostic scare shows how murky this exposure can get: months of tests for a suspected progressive lung disease traced to compost mold eventually turned out to be ordinary asthma, though the ordeal left them cataloguing how many everyday activities can trigger the same reaction. Others point more simply to grain and hay dust as the classic trigger after decades on a farm.

What commenters described: This reinforces my reasoning behind wearing masks when working with hay on the farm. I don't care how many people call me Darth Vader i've seen what that kind of exposure did to my dad after 40 years.

Limit: The scare in that case resolved as ordinary asthma rather than the feared progressive disease, a reminder that these symptoms overlap with far more common conditions.

Analog film photography
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What the pattern means: This entry reads more like delayed worry than active complaint — someone who ran a wet darkroom for fifteen years with little thought now looks back and wonders what the fixer did to their body, while another jokes that skipping gear regularly means “stuff other than film may develop.”

General craft glues and adhesives
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What the pattern means: One crafter describes an immediate reaction to cyanoacrylate — chest tightness and wheezing within hours of gluing — and responded by cutting back to occasional outdoor use rather than giving up super glue entirely. E6000, used heavily by rhinestoning dancers and showgirls, gets flagged in the same thread as a separate respiratory hazard.

What commenters described: So I only use it rarely and if at all take it outside into the fresh air.

Limit: The commenter admits they've “often wondered about the long term effect on people who use these products regularly in non ventilated conditions” — a question the thread never actually answers.

Spray painting
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What the pattern means: Both comments here skip the detail and go straight to the verdict: spraying a paint gun unprotected is called “gambling” outright, and even outdoor spray-paint art still needs a mask because open air doesn't fully clear the fumes.

Home biodiesel production
1 source record

What the pattern means: This is the category's one entry about acute lab-chemistry danger rather than slow dust or fume exposure — the commenter warns that people new to brewing biodiesel from used cooking oil routinely underestimate what methanol, lye, and potassium hydroxide can do, on top of the volatile intermediate compounds the reaction itself produces.

Wet-plate photography
1 source record

What the pattern means: Unlike almost everything else in this category, wet-plate's traditional chemistry is acutely lethal by design rather than slow-building — a potassium cyanide fixer, silver nitrate that can blind on contact, and explosive ether for the collodion — yet a small community still works this way purely for the blue-UV look only the process produces.

House painting
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What the pattern means: The single account here ends in a death, not a near-miss: a commenter recounts a friend's house-painter father developing fatal lung complications from a career spent behind masks that simply weren't rated to keep the fumes out.

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Thank you! Someone recently told me at a market that I was selling at about the resin allergy and it was absolutely news to me! I do not produce very often, and when I do, I always wear gloves and use about 3oz on average, but will definitely take care to be careful moving forward!

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My mom works with a ton of resin and ignores every warning I give her about the fumes. It drives me insane, and I've tried countless times to drill how much I don't want to see her suffer and potentially die as a result of this, but she is so insanely stubborn

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Some of us are just old guys that happen to have bought leaded solder back when it was standard... and we still have a fair amount left since we don't go through it quickly. A also still have have lawn darts and Zen Magnets - both of which have been killed off by the CPSC. I may not be normal. ;)

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I guess I haven't watched beginner soldering videos... That's kind of silly, considering. Well, whatever, I'm wrong. I will continue to use silver solder instead and cheerfully huff the fumes for kicks.

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It's really not hard to get 63/37. I can get it on Amazon for delivery by 10pm tonight (it's currently 4:30). Given how many beginner soldering videos there are out there that recommend leaded, there's still a lot of people starting out with it.

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Across resins, solvents, dust, and fumes, the danger people actually got burned by wasn't the acute one they'd been warned about (fire, blindness, a fall) but slow, dose-dependent exposure they underestimated because nothing bad happened the first hundred times. The fixes that held up in practice were almost always physical containment done consistently — wet-mopping, sealed enclosures, exhaust venting, actual cartridge respirators — rather than caution or 'being careful,' and severity tracked with frequency and duration of exposure, not with any single bad session.

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Woodworking and sanding
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What the pattern means: Commenters keep circling back to specific toxic species (cedar, walnut, purpleheart, cocobolo, mesquite) and to relatives who developed lung, sinus, or throat cancer after decades of maskless carpentry, though several argue hand tools throw off dust too coarse to inhale and that a properly sealed respirator brings the real risk down to something manageable.

What commenters described: I have a half face mask respirator with p100 filters that I leave hanging on the entrance to my shop. Wear it 100 percent of the time I'm working in there.

Limit: A woodworking podcast episode cited by one commenter found dust exposure can double or triple risk for a few rare cancers, but concluded the absolute risk stays very low, with allergy-type sensitivity to specific woods being the more realistic concern.

Welding and metalworking
72 source records

What the pattern means: Welders describe a wider blast radius of harm than the obvious sparks and fire: arc-flash sunburn through an unbuttoned collar or from feet away, temporary blindness from a lifted hood, and hexavalent-chromium or zinc fumes that trigger flu-like 'metal fume fever,' with several tracing skin cancer, melanoma, or Parkinson's-like manganism directly back to a welding career.

What commenters described: I wear a Half Mask respirator under my Hood no matter what type of welding I'm doing, and my filters end up dark grey at the end of the week. PPE is cheap.

Limit: One commenter pushes back that helmet lens shade has nothing to do with UV protection for the eyes — untinted safety glasses worn underneath are what actually stop arc-flash getting in around the edges.

Cigar, cigarette, and cannabis smoking
35 source records

What the pattern means: Most replies to this thread just typed the word 'smoking' and moved on rather than elaborating, but where people do qualify it they draw a line between an occasional cigar-lounge visit or a pipe smoked once a month and a daily cigarette or vape habit, with one ex-smoker calling it flatly one of the worst decisions of his life.

Limit: A pipe smoker who partakes only every month or two frames his own habit as low-frequency rather than compulsive, suggesting some commenters judge the risk by how often the habit happens rather than by the substance alone.

Power-tool and machine-tool hobbies
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What the pattern means: The recurring lesson here isn't dust or fumes but a single counter-intuitive rule repeated almost word for word by strangers: never wear gloves near a lathe, drill press, or any other spinning tool, because a snagged glove drags the whole hand into the machine instead of just tearing skin — several commenters independently reach for the exact term 'degloving' to describe the outcome.

What commenters described: Noooo If you need some sort of protection with rotating tools (for example, when I'm sanding or polishing a piece of jewelry with the dremel it gets HOT) use finger cots instead of gloves.

Limit: A former railroad machinist describes his employer's blanket safety policy mandating gloves at all times in the shop, forcing him to fight 'safety observation' write-ups every time he removed them to run a lathe safely.

Masonry and concrete cutting
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What the pattern means: The obstacle described isn't ignorance of silica or gypsum dust — tradesmen already call it something that will 'shred your lungs' — it's a workplace culture where skipping a respirator reads as manly, and multiple commenters say only an on-site safety inspector with real authority to send people home actually changes anyone's behavior.

What commenters described: If they were unable to defend why they did not need certain PPE or safety measures on a site, they would get laid off in incremental times... people straight up feared her when she showed up onsite.

Limit: One former bricklayer who worked entirely without a mask or gloves for two summers reports only callouses and no lasting injury, a counterexample the same thread otherwise argues against.

Heavy-machinery hobbies
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What the pattern means: The one account behind this entry frames heavy machinery as physically destructive rather than slowly toxic — a hobby that wears down the body fast — and draws a deliberate contrast with something like a home music studio, which the same commenter says won't kill you but will still cost you your hearing over time.

What commenters described: anything to do with heavy machinery, quick way to destroy your body.

Soft-pastel art
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What the pattern means: The single supporting account ties soft pastel's danger to two exposures stacking on each other rather than one — the friable pigment dust itself and the aerosol fixative sprayed over finished work — and cites multiple older pastel artists personally known to the commenter who developed serious lung disease from the combination.

What commenters described: Have known multiple older soft pastel artists with severe lung issues from repeated exposure to both pastel dust and the heavy metals in the older compositions.

Limit: The account specifically pins the heavy-metal risk on 'older compositions,' leaving open whether reformulated modern soft pastels carry the same danger.

Furniture flipping and refinishing
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What the pattern means: This entry surfaces two separate hazards from one commenter rather than a single chemical story: the expected long-term lung risk from sanding and stripping furniture in an unventilated garage, plus a more acute and less obvious fire risk, since some paint strippers and gel stains can self-ignite on a discarded rag.

What commenters described: ALWAYS soak rags, paper towels, foam brushes, any disposable thing you used into a bucket of water before you throw it away. Don't burn your house down for a thrift flip.

Printing and bookbinding
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What the pattern means: Rather than describing a hazard unique to bookbinding, the single account here extends the thread's dust-and-chemical theme to paper crafts by name, arguing ink, glue, and wood dust put printing and bookbinding in the same exposure category as the woodworking and resin hobbies already under discussion.

What commenters described: This extends to paper as well. Printing, bookbinding. It's all ink, glue and wood dust.

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For some guys, it's unfortunately viewed as "manly" to forgo PPE.

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I have no idea but be careful listening to any advice you get on Reddit. Anyone could make up some comment that hurts you or they just don’t know what they’re doing but think they do

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Fair. Ex-smoker too but look at it as one of the biggest mistakes of my life and would never consider it as a hobby..

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A coworker had a woodworking hobby that she gave up when it affected her lungs. She said the resin in the sawdust was also a big factor.

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Oh yeah man, the more exotic the wood the greater it'll F you up. AT BEST you'll just become allergic to it. But a lot of those exotics, especially those in rainforests, are straight up toxic.

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The most convincing stories in this category aren't general warnings about wood or metal but very particular, sometimes counter-intuitive failure points — one allergenic wood species, one chromium-heavy alloy, one class of rotating tool that specifically punishes glove-wearing — that don't collapse into a single 'wear PPE' fix. A second pattern: almost every cancer anecdote involving a grandfather, uncle, or dad gets answered by another commenter raising a confound (wartime air pollution, smoking, other trades, old age at death), so causation stays genuinely contested even though the underlying dust, fume, and UV mechanisms themselves are well documented and rarely disputed.

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Playing bagpipes. If you don't properly clean regularly, they can get mold and other nasties breeding inside and the player can develop "bagpipe lung." Edit: Thank you for the awards!Top-level comment
See, that right there is the reason I don’t play bagpipes.Reply
well, that's not a *silent* killer at all.Reply
I'm Troy McClure, you may remember me from such educational films as, "Fireworks, the silent killer".Reply
I play in a Celtic rock band and years ago we had a very talented bagpiper. But we’re all middle aged dads so our rehearsals were usually at 9am on Saturday. The pain of walking into a basement for rehearsals when you have a hangover and the bagpiper is warming up is something elseReply
the noisy killer?Reply
This really isn't very common with modern sets and synthetic bags, reeds, and seasoning.Reply
That's what big bagpipe want you to think.Reply
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The condition was [only discovered ten years ago]([link removed]Reply
Damn so a decent amount of bag players die from this in the past?Reply
>Though doctors nicknamed the condition “bagpipe lung,” experts say nearly any woodwind or brass instrument can support similar molds and yeast if they aren’t properly and regularly cleaned, the BBC reports. In the past, trombone and saxophonists have been diagnosed with the disease, though this is the first reported instance of a death by bagpipe. While King says there’s no reason to fear playing the pipes in and of themselves, musicians should be aware of the dangers and be diligent about keeping their instruments clean.Reply
How do you season yours? I’m a big fan of cinnamon myself.Reply
You're doing it all wrong. Just a little bit of oil, use something to spread that on the whole surface, then you want to put it in a 450°F oven for at least an hour.Reply
Good to know! I had only learned about it when a man died some years ago.Reply
This is entirely untrue. One guy, one time, died of an undiagnosed fungal lung infection and when they tested his instrument, found that there were fungal spores present - not a huge surprise given, you know, people breathe. There is no such thing as "bagpipe lung", any more than "clarinet lung" or "trumpet lung".Reply
there are medically documented cases. I wouldn't say it's common but it does happen. [link removed]Reply
Not exactly silent though.Reply
Today I learned every hobby is a silent killerTop-level comment
<silent Except the bagpipes oneReply
Bagpipe lung: the noisy killerReply
😂😂😂Reply
Believe it or not swimming in radiated water as a hobby is a silent killer. Also looking at your fridge can kill you since you won't realize it's falling on you until it's too late.Reply
Wood-working. Primarily excessive saw dust exposure. Over time it can be harmful to the respiratory system. Also, many people do not realized that there are several types of wood dust (Cedar being the most common) that have toxic qualities and are allergens that can potentially cause breathing issues and skin irritation. Regardless, masks should be used when working with wood if the job makes a lot of saw dust.Top-level comment
My grandpa died of lung cancer. He was an old school carpenter that didn’t use masks. He never smoked a single day of his life.Reply
Also killed my grandpa but weakened his heart, we aren't sure if it was the saw dust or working in the engine room of a destroyer in the Korean war and be exposed to everything thereReply
Probably a little of column a and a little of column b.Reply
...and a whole lot of Destroyer D.Reply
I dont know how well ventilation works in the engine room of a destroyer from the 1950s, but poor air quality is usually traced directly to cardiac issues. The saw dust would have messed up his lungs first, which *may* have messed with his heart, but if he had any underlying issues from his time in the war, the saw dust likely exacerbated it...Reply
I’ve never been in a destroyer in Korea. But I have been in a lot of different vehicles and neck deep in other modern equipment. I can almost guarantee you that the engine room was probably 95% of the problem.Reply
I was the lone fireman on small patrol boat songuess who got to do all of the super shitty hazardous work? Did it so much it made me sign up to do electronics. I actually still enjoy working on machinery.Reply
Not saying woodworking didn't contribute...but he was around during a time in which everyone was getting second hand smoke and all kinds of air pollution all the time.Reply
Right, and the inflammation from wood dust is more associated with inflammation and scarring over time rather than lung cancer. I just learned it can be associated with an increase in nasal/sinus cancers, though: [link removed]Reply
That’s how my dad got sinus cancer. They told him it was from years of micro tears in his passageways caused by sawdust. He ended up with a feeding tube by the time everything was said and done.Reply
I don’t know why people act like smoking is the only cause of lung cancer.Reply
This is something my bachelor's degree hammered into our heads. I have a fine arts degree and they absolutely hammered wearing a mask and having proper ventilation when working with anything that creates dust. Before I transferred to that university I was at a community college and my professor there also drive it home. Especially when she talked about a chest X-ray she had where her lungs literally sparkled from having so much powered glass in them from years in ceramics.Reply
I worked, briefly, as a bench Jewler in a mall. Right before I was hired they had redone the studio. One of the things they did was carefully remove the old carpet on the floors and sent it off to be reclaimed. If I remember right they got $5k-7k worth of precious metals and stones out of it. They replaced it with vinyl flooring if I remember correctly.uch easier to sweep up.Reply
This just triggered a memory for me. I have a friend who does commercial electrical work. They were renovating a jewelry store that had been closed and emptied out, and I was meeting him for lunch. I noticed these guys prying up every tile, scraping underneath it, and bagging the debris in Ziploc bags. I thought it was weird at the time, but yeah... they had been doing jewelry repairs right there for decades. I wonder if thats what they were doing.Reply
Most definitely. It's pretty good money just sitting there.Reply
In NYC, there are businesses soley dovoted to sweeping the floors of Diamond Row and refining the sweepings.Reply
That’s really…metal.Reply
Yeah, I was in a stone carving class and they hammered home that you should always wear a mask because breathing in stone dust basically creates a plaster cast of your lungs that you cant extractReply
What do you mean can’t extract? I promise I can extract it, and it will be really neat for my med students in the cadaver lab.Reply
I mean, you CAN extract it when you are dead...Reply
Working with bone and antler can introduce some fun pathogens to your lung tissue.Reply
There was also a woman who carved mussel shells and got heavy metal poisoning. Because it's pretty rare to do, it's not a well-known hazard, but in retrospect it makes sense.Reply
Pearl shell cutting and polishing causes silicosis of the lungs. Bone and horn also badReply
Yep day 1 showing the glaze room is a lesson on silicosis. Now I work for a construction contractor but luckily I'm only exposed to amorphous silica in dirt dust. I ALWAYS have n95s with my, size small for me and regular for the dudes, always offer them. But only my husband will use one usually. Sometimes the hypochondriac dude wears em when using the chop saw. And the one armed dude only wears one with asbestos and even then he's too ADHD to be patient for me to grab one. The two oldies use nothing of course, even though I remind em how you don't wanna be deaf dumb and blind in retirement trying to play with your grandkids, right? Everyone wants to die quick but you're making choices today increasing the likelihood of a slow miserable decay. Not me. I want 50 more years with my husband and so does heReply
All right, fine, this post is inspiring me to go buy an N95 mask for my various projects. .Reply
Wood and other dusts (anything particulate really) may also be harmful to small mammals, like our cats, dogs, ferrets, etc. They won't wear masks so we have to be protective of them.Reply
There are people who tend toward a mindset that anything "natural" can't actually be harmful. A great reminder is that asbestos is completely inert and doesn't react with human physiology at all....but it is tiny pieces of rock, and tiny pieces of rock are a big problem in your lung tissue..Reply
Tiny \*sharp\* pieces of rock. Cancer usually begins as defective cells, and the more defective cells you have the higher the chances that one of them will become cancer. People know that various chemicals damage cells, but mechanical damage from extremely small, extremely sharp asbestos fibers also damage cells.Reply
The cancer from asbestos exposure is caused by your immune system trying to remove the particles from your lungs. Some of the particles have an aspect ratio that essentially pierces any cell that attempts to envelop it. On top of that immune cells basically cut their way through otherwise healthy tissue to get to the asbestos. The resulting chronic inflammation gives you cancer.Reply
As I like to tell people anytime they go 'Oh it's natural, that means it's good for you!' Know what else is natural? The usual answer will be rolled eyes and 'Poisons, flowers, etc'. Nah. ***Bears***. Bears are 'natural' and absolutely not good for your lifespan.Reply
Dust extractor/collector with a hepa filter, air filtration on the ceiling, and I still wear a respirator. Especially when sanding.Reply
The contractor that laid the tile in my kitchen cut all of it dry inside the garage with no mask or anything. There was so much dust everywhere. I was shocked.Reply
Probably thinks safety protection is for pussies and he’s done it for so long without that he knows better than safety best practicesReply
tiles are usually cut wetReply
Every tiler I've ever worked with cut them dry in the driveway with an eyeballed line sharpied onReply
Exactly! I asked the GC about it and he said that is just how he does it and his work is phenomenal so we just let him be.Reply
well, phenomenal except for the layer of dust covering all of your possessions.Reply
so the hobby that makes you build things is also slowly deconstructing your lungs. cool cool coolReply
Hand tool woodworking FTW. Plane shavings don’t get in your lungs :)Reply
Not with that attitude, they won't!Reply
One of the big reasons I'm sticking with hand tools! Also I don't have space for even a small table saw. But while it might be faster to run a plank along a jointer to flatten it, there's something deeply satisfying about doing so with your own two hands. There's still times to use a mask, if you're working with really reactive woods, but the dust from a hand saw is larger, and falls to the ground faster. The cleanup is easier because you aren't throwing it across the entire room. And it's so much quieter!Reply
How do you finish stuff? You don’t use sandpaper?Reply
Generally no. A sharp #4 smoothing plane handled with precision and a card scraper (or scraper plane, or cabinet scraper) leave a surface that is not only finish-ready, but far smoother than what you can do with sandpaper. Sandpaper abrades wood fibers, planes shear them. When you rub your fingers across a sanded board, it feels fuzzy (until you get to crazy high grits). When you rub your fingers across a carefully planed board, it feels like glass.Reply
How bad is the dust from just handcarving?Reply
It’s a complete non-issue. The chips from hand carving are too large for inhalation. If you’re sanding as a finishing step the dust is a concern but it’s a very small amount compared to general carpentry.Reply
\*So long as your hand-sanding it. The moment you break out a powered sander you better have a great mask with a proper seal.Reply
Yes but no. The size and type of exposure matters a ton. Power sanding a small pine carving a couple times per year is going to make dust that’s bad for you, but it’s negligible risk compared to ripping a hundred boards of cedar each week on a table saw. But yeah, if you’re power sanding regularly, especially with more toxic woods, it’s not good for you.Reply
There are bold climbers and there are old climbers, but there are no old, bold climbers Edit: I forgot to mention that this is an old saying. I learned it somewhere when I was first learning to climb 30 years ago and it wasn’t new thenTop-level comment
As outdoor sports go, climbing is right in the middle of the pack, next to canoeing. I feel like climbing is pretty much as safe as you choose for it to be. But big portions of climbing culture are very toxic in regards to safety. I've had climbers tell me they don't use stopper knots while rappelling since it costs them an extra 30 seconds per climb and swear that faster = safer.Reply
Next to canoeing… maybe if it includes once a month indoor only climbers? I’d love to see that data source. There’s so many different types of climbing, it shouldn’t be lumped all together anymore in data like that. Putting sport climbing and wilderness alpine climbing in the same category is like combining sledding and backcountry skiing.Reply
> Next to canoeing… maybe if it includes once a month indoor only climbers? I’d love to see that data source. I can see an overlap easily if you include the many unprepared people getting into trouble on even relatively easy rivers or open lakes in windy conditions, only need to flip against a strainer in a strong current or into a cold lake, especially without a PFD to rapidly become a statistic. However by 'sledding' do you mean tobogganing or snowmobiling as there is also a big overlap with hazards for backcountry skiing in the latter. Just had to check and the current statistics put them [neck to neck]([link removed] (Activity Type graph).Reply
>faster = safer Obviously, the less time you spend on the wall, the less likely you are to fall off! Which is why I don't get up on the wall at all.Reply
My observation of my trad climber buddies (I boulder, mostly indoors) is that they're actually pretty safe at the crag, but getting too and from the crag (and any emergency planning) is left pretty lax, and is the biggest source of injuries. Mountains are pretty dangerous all by themselves.Reply
I’d wager there are older, boulder climbers, additionallyReply
But are there bolder older boulder climbers?Reply
Rock climbing is very safe if you follow basic safety. Ice on the other hand...Reply
Resin crafting. If you don’t work in a well-ventilated space, it can wreak havoc on your respiratory system.Top-level comment
This is why I haven't touched my resin 3D printer since I bought it. Until I manage to find a solution for managing the fumes, and for safely cleaning up the prints, I'm not going to use it.Reply
Yeah, I really enjoyed my printer until I moved to a place that didn't have an isolated area for it. On top of everything I have a hard time with the waste. It's not entirely accurate, but I've come to think of resin printing as the process of turning toxins into microplasticsReply
There's an RPG dice maker called Die Hard Dice that started doing a line of recycled dice allegedly from the waste products that the other dice making leaves behind. All the profits go to a specific charity each quarter (right now it's World Central Kitchen). Just figured I should shout them out since it's semi relevant. They call them Rerolls.Reply
Genius name!Reply
You should set up a tent with passive intake, active exhaust. Put a carbon filter and a hepa filter in front of your exhaust fan enclosure.Reply
100% on the tent. Resin printers spray a thin film resin everywhere. If the printer isn't enclosed, every surface in that room is covered with uncured resin. Once you're sensitized to acrylates, you're sensitized for life. Just to add on to this for anyone reading, please remember that all filters have a set lifetime before they lose effectiveness. Check your filter's specs and change them out as needed! If it's past their replacement date, they're no longer protecting you.Reply
I ended up putting mine in a grow tent with a charcoal air filter. I have the filter's fan hooked up to the same power supply as the printer. If the printer is on, so is the fan. I don't keep the vat full of resin if I can avoid it.Reply
I heard that's part of why the resin community has so much snark/drama, if they're not careful it hurts their minds.Reply
Yeah there’s a lot of resintmentReply
Get outReply
Idk man all my snark comes out when someone acts like resin isn’t dangerousReply
CTE of the resin communityReply
2026's version of Mad Hatters?Reply
Man, I read this as "raisin crafting" and was totally confused for a secondReply
Yep... that's why the original sun-kissed raisins packages had a eulogy next to the picture of the girl on the back. Tragic.Reply
Along the same lines is glass-blowingReply
Legit question: I make resin jewelry (smaller pieces and not super frequently) but is there still the long term damage that comes along with the resin printing?Reply
Breathing in any volatile organic vapor compounds is not good for your lungs. How bad it is depends on what resin you are using, how much it off gases, and what it off gases. At minimum you should be in a well ventilated area. The big issue with resin 3D printint is a lot of people try to do it in their small apartment or bedroom and sit/sleep in the area with essentially a vat of open resin. If you are working with resin you should wear nitrile gloves because you can develop a resin allergy from exposure. It might not happen immediately but it will happen eventually.Reply
Thank you! Someone recently told me at a market that I was selling at about the resin allergy and it was absolutely news to me! I do not produce very often, and when I do, I always wear gloves and use about 3oz on average, but will definitely take care to be careful moving forward!Reply
No problem. It is a pretty brutal allergy. Normally it is a acrylate allergy which was discovered from people using UV gel nail polish. It sounds like it would be easy to avoid until you realize it is common monomer chain used in things like dental fillings, medical glue, and dentures. If it gets bad enough you become sensitive to cured acrylates causing contact dermatitis so there goes contact lenses, anything made of fiberglass like benches, and much much more.Reply
I worked with someone who was deep in the resin printing biz (work and as a hobby) and her allergy got so bad she had to wear driving gloves because she couldn’t touch the steering wheel in her car.Reply
My understanding is that with exposure you can develop allergies that will never go away once they’re there. Similar to gel nails, you develop an allergy to Hema which is in a lot more than just gel polish. I’m not sure if it’s Hema in resin that you get the allergy toReply
Yeah, used to build and paint resin kits, about 4 years ago and was doing it for maybe 5-6 years. Not sure if it was a contributing factor to me developing thyroid cancer, had to get a thyroidectomy 3 year ago. If I ever get back probably be more mindful when sanding parts and wear a good respirator and actually change the filters every now and thenReply
So far I’ve gathered: 1. Wear a mask when doing almost anything 2. Get up and move around once in a while. Less screen time (including games and gambling) 3. Wear gloves 4. See #1Top-level comment
6. Hearing protection.Reply
7. ***WHAT???***Reply
8. HEARING LOSS IS CUMULATIVEReply
9. **PROTECT YOUR HEARING!!!**Reply
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I keep chickens. You'd better believe when I shovel the coop I'm wearing a 3M 2097 respirator. Apparently birdkeepers are subject to serious respiratory issues in the long run if you spend a lot of time around bird dust. I also use the same respirator (changing the filters regularly) to mow the lawn. I live on a dirt road. The dirt that the lawnmower kicks up is silica based. Silicosis can also get you over long enough. Everything that isn't fresh air can wreck your lungs, it seems.Reply
> Apparently birdkeepers are subject to serious respiratory issues in the long run if you spend a lot of time around bird dust. Bird Fancier's Lung. Repeated exposure triggers the immune system to develop something like a low-grade allergy. Can show up as symptoms similar to infections, heart failure, even mimicing the weightloss cancer patients get. It mostly gets better with steroids as long as you get rid of the birds.Reply
Just to clarify: it says bird poop in a comment higher up the thread, but the dust in question is what birds have coating their feathers. Just cleaning the poop won’t eradicate the problem.Reply
3 is not a given, sometimes you very much *do not* want to be wearing gloves, specifically when doing anything involving power saws or drills.Reply
For the love of god no gloves when using a latheReply
Don't worry, the lathe will remove any gloves.Reply
Free degloving, you say?Reply
to shreds, you say?Reply
Well, how is his wife holding up?Reply
To shreds, you sayReply
Nothing but my necktie and my ponytailReply
I worked for a large class 1 Railroad in the United states. I was in their mechanical department and, by rules, EVERYONE in the shop has to wear gloves at all time. The problem is that I was a machinist that worked in a machine shop. Wearing gloves while using a drill press and lathe is one of the most fundamental no-nos but their safety rules didn't allow for us not to wear gloves. It was a fight every time a "safety observation" occurred.Reply
\* gloves are extremely dangerous with many power tools, particularly ones that rotate in some wayReply
Right kind of mask. A particulate mask like an N 95 won’t filter VOCs like paint fumes. (Many people don’t know this)Reply
6. Safety Goggles/glassesReply
So it seems like the only way to have hobbies is to just stop breathing entirelyTop-level comment
So far I haven't seen any dire warnings against origami.Reply
Death by a thousand paper cuts.Reply
Wear gloves, glasses and a respirator.Reply
Never had a paper cut, but the side of my thumbnail is worn down.Reply
you'd probably die if you breathed in the origamiReply
The true healthy way is to have variety. This thread is kind of like someone asking "What food can be deadly if you eat too much of it" and the answers are things like "Well if you eat nothing but celery you'll get scurvy" or "Too much water will give you water intoxication." Yeah, too much of anything is bad for you. Same applies here. Just like it's healthy to have a varied diet, it's healthy to do different things and move in different ways. Try new stuff, go for a jog, do some stretches, learn to sew, climb a hill and stargaze at the top, etc. Variety is healthy.Reply
Pottery comes with a risk of silicosis an incurable lung disease. Important to prevent dust and always wet clean up your space. But in a shared studio lots of folks do notTop-level comment
Its important to not breathe in glaze materials or huff clay dust, but my understanding is that hobby potters are at very little risk of silicosis in most cases. Production potters (and anyone else who works with silica materials as a profession) are the ones really at risk without proper PPEReply
Yeah it's definitely dose-dependent (the more often you're doing it the worse it's likely to be). But still worth wet sanding and masking to mix glazes imo.Reply
I’m a physical therapist, and I was about to chime in and say that sitting and throwing pottery is NOT going to cause an unnatural curvature in your spine. Then I re-read your comment and realize my brain was working faster than my eyes 😂Reply
Haha it will not. But body aches and wrist injuries are a definite risk!Reply
Lead poisoning from ammo reloading, casting fish sinkers, doing stained glass, refurbishing painted antiques, many other sources.Reply
It’s a horrible disease. My dad has it after a lifetime as a bricklayer and concreter.Reply
My grandparents were potters, specifying in a type of Japanese pottery and had a kiln on their own land and a workshop too. My grandma died relatively young from cancer (which... I don't *think* was caused by the pottery since it was breast cancer, and is incredibly common here) but my granddad lived until he was 96. So it probably depends on the kind of pottery you're making to an extent? Though they struck me as the kinds of people who would be meticulous about cleaning up afterwards. Whenever I visited their house it was pretty clean, even when my granddad was living there by himself. One of my relatives lives there now with her kids and does fire up the kiln sometimes to make things but I'm sure she's aware of all the risks. Still, very important info! Just wanted to share a related anecdote.Reply
Welding. In addition giving off toxic fumes some welders also produce UV radiation. I hope it's obvious that this is very bad for eyes, but you can get a "sun burn" from weldingTop-level comment
My father and grandfather both had multiple instances of skin cancer from years of exposure to weldingReply
I'm absolutely astounded my dad hasn't. Our family is *very* prone to skin cancer (really pale and freckly, plus multiple relatives have had skin cancer already), and my dad will show up with his face BRIGHT red from welding 🙃Reply
Were they farmers? Most of the older generation farmers in my area just ignored the PPE that should be worn for most tasks (like welding). In contrast, everyone at my brother's welding shop is wearing coveralls and a mask while working.Reply
wait….. some people weld without masks????Reply
Safety squintsReply
The PPE requirements these days in professional environments basically stop the risk, but back in the 50s and 60s you'd see men in the shipyards welding with no tops on, or in dungarees with bare shoulders, especially in summer.Reply
Welding stainless steel has a distinct “ozone” smell to it - that’s hexavalent chromium, a fume byproduct of the process. They didn’t know it was a hazard until factory welders in WW2 complained of nasal/sinus problems, with some who were prolific welders getting chronic bloody noses, losing their sense of smell (sometimes permanently), and even getting perforated septums. Modern techniques are no different and still produce hex chrome, now you’re just supposed to ventilate it while welding 😥Reply
These days, it's worth it to get a PAPR or airline respirator; PPE is cheap, long term health issues are expensive.Reply
Are you good with metallurgy? Cause I have a question! I use a belt grinder to chamfer bars for my barfeeding machine (machinist). Usually the steel bars smell kind of good and most people comment that they like the smell. Last few weeks tho, I was running inconel and the bars REEKED when I put them on the grinder. I use silicone carbide belts and with the inconel, they smelled like gross burned plastic. Thoughts on why that would be?Reply
Grinding inconel poses a huge risk for hexavalent chromium exposure. Get a good respirator. Talk to your OSHA rep. If you dont have one, get one. If you get lung poisoning, cancer or COPD later, you will want it documented that you had some questions now. Unless youre fine with flipping the bill yourself that is.Reply
Not to mention ozone is also produced, especially with aluminum weldingReply
I had chronic “red neck” syndrome for years. My arms were always sunburned too. It was probably a combination of welding outside and doing a lot of blind tack welding. At least the fumes weren’t as bad outdoors, though it probably wasn’t doing my eyes any favors either. I had a friend who was an artist in a wheelchair and welded regularly. She would often get severe burns because molten metal would land on her thighs, and she couldn’t feel it. I also did a lot of forging. Between that and constantly moving heavy steel around, I wrecked my back before I was even 30. That’s one of the reasons I transitioned into digital art in my 30s.Reply
Be careful with digital art even. I'm 33, been in animation for over six years. I do prop design and used to draw heavily on the side for conventions and for fun ... I developed a repetitive stress injury that left me 40% disabled in my neck and shoulder blade. I had multiple steroid shots and 3 years of meds procedures and PT. I no longer draw for fun, I can't. The pain is still there and it is debilitating. And I wasn't even very sedentary, I play sports a few times a week and dance and go to the gym. Not moving around much doing much stretchin or strengthening will kill your neck over time and even your lower back and hips. Not to deter anyone but I just want to get the word out. Please be careful out there!Reply
Repetitive stress injuries are seriously undercommunicated among artists. I can't speak for visual artists but it seems that every other musician I know has some sort of long term injury caused by repetitive stress. You have to practice/work for many hours a day doing the same fine motor movements just to reach the entrance level of professional competency and the body just did not evolve to be used like that. It is truly ironic that the more you love the craft the more you have to limit yourself; these injuries feel akin to curses and can absolutely wreck your sense of self and your 'purpose'. I strongly second what you express at the end of your post. To any young artist: I beg you to seriously consider technique, rest, and overall mobility. You do not want to experience what it feels like to have your north star snuffed out.Reply
You can also breathe in small shard if metal. Know a guy that builds boats and his x-ray came back with lungs full of metal. Doc said "you know that's never coming out, right?Reply
Unless you're reckless and don't wear sleeves and a hood when welding, the UV thing isn't a big deal. The fumes are another deal unless you wear a mask and people generally don't do that.Reply
Anything with zinc in it or cleaning parts with chlorinated brake clean then welding before it dries is a good way to end up in the hospital or dead. With zinc if you see a purple flame in the arc don’t breath the fumes and drink some milk for good measure it limits the absorption of the zinc oxide. Chlorinated brake clean creates phosgene gas when burned. Phosgene was the gas used in WW1 that caused the most deaths from chemical weapons. It’s heavier than air and will sit in your lungs and convert the water in your body to hydrocaloric acid.Reply
Yep, I've known some welders that only worried about zinc while doing galvanized. I wear a Half Mask respirator under my Hood no matter what type of welding I'm doing, and my filters end up dark grey at the end of the week. PPE is cheap.Reply
I welded galvanized steel once, oh man that was enough for me to understand the dangers of jumping into a hobby without researching safety first.Reply
Okay, but what if I squint real hard while I'm welding?Reply
Ah, the safety squintReply
Beekeeping, one can work bees for years without suffering anaphylactic shock. Then get into one's hives in the spring and get hit and go into anaphylactic shock. One of the few venomous creatures one can't build a resistance to the venom. I share with my students it takes between one and a thousand to kill a person and no one knows how many it takes until one gets stung. I keep an epi-pen handy just in case a student or myself gets stung and drops. I've been beekeeping since the late sixties and I've had several friends have to give it up.Top-level comment
Are they getting stung for years without issue and then they suffer with anaphylactic shock or did it just take years for them to get stung?Reply
"Are they getting stung for years without issue and then they suffer with anaphylactic shock". Yes, however it can be one's first sting too. Also, it's not uncommon to get stung many times at once in the same area after the first bee marks one with a defensive pheromone. It's not uncommon to get stung many times while working bees. It's a good day when one doesn't get stung but rare. The courses I teach include working hands-on in an apiary/bee yard. I've had two students get stung over the years and need immediate treatment out of hundreds who've taken my classes. Hence the need for carrying an epi-pen while teaching. I'm also a commercial beekeeper and have at least a dozen friends over the years have to sell their business due to developing anaphylactic shock unfortunately.Reply
does the gear not fully protect y'all from a sting? or can the bees slip under it somehow and get you?Reply
No, the suit doesn't stop one from getting stung, it minimizes the frequency one is stung. Getting stung is part of beekeeping. Even the Japanese with their high tech suits don't stop all Asian giant hornet stings.Reply
I don't think the "can't build a resistance to the venom" thing is true. One of my parents is a beekeeper who suddenly suffered anaphylaxis as you said, but they had exposure therapy with small increasing doses afterwards until they had no allergic reaction from the equivalent of two stings (aside from the usual reaction to stings obviously).Reply
If you recall I listed it takes one to a thousand stings to kill a person. Treatments are for the occasional stings and don't help with multiple stings. We've lost two association members after their treatments who didn't have an epi-pen with them at the time thinking they were immune when they tried to work their bees once again. I went four decades before developing an allergic reaction. As well, I too have done the treatments and started to go into anaphylactic shock again after getting stung over a half dozen time while working one hive. I've reduced the number of hives I work from eighty to fifteen to reduce my exposure. However, I've worked bees since the late sixties due to my love for them and I'm willing to take the risk being old. I gear up like I'm working Africanized bees and always have Benadryl and an epi-pen available.Reply
I didn't know that! I'm going to bother them about this, I don't even think their EpiPens are in date. Thank you for telling me!Reply
the top 4 comments all have something to do with respiratory issues We REALLY need to take more care of our lungs, huh?Top-level comment
They are surprisingly delicate, and maybe not ideally suited to our extended life expectanciesReply
MFing ancestors should have kept the gills as backupReply
Would actually solve a lot of issues. Our aging population retreats to the sea in retirement, freeing up housing stock for the young.Reply
this might actually work even without the gillsReply
They can take a tour of the titanicReply
Otherwise known as the The Innsmouth StrategyReply
A few months ago my neighbor had a concrete driveway installed. I came home from work one day to see two driveway guys cutting relief joints into the freshly cured concrete with a masonry saw and angle grinder. They were both hunched over in a plume of silica dust with barely eye protection. One was in his 40’s and the other was maybe 21. When I mentioned they should really be wearing a respirator the older dude giggled and said “yeah probably!”. I wish proper PPE was the norm not the exceptionReply
For some guys, it's unfortunately viewed as "manly" to forgo PPE.Reply
That's why most companies that know what they're doing hire or have an in-house OSHA-type inspector who can suspend people for forgoing PPE. Makes it so that the workers will wear it and not feel less manly because nobody wants to be laid off a jobsite. If you don't do that, you're never gonna get them to wear PPE.Reply
> That's why most companies that know what they're doing hire or have an in-house OSHA-type inspector who can suspend people for forgoing PPE. My sister did this work - the reality is they ignore them and that person is there to check a box and take the fall when they get audited. She hated it and left... now she works as a government inspector instead, busting companies that do that shit.Reply
I worked with some roofers who were hootin and hollerin like baboons when I suggested they use fall protection harnesses.Reply
A couple decades ago we had our in-ground pool refinished with fiberglass, and the stuff the guys were rolling on just absolutely reeked of toxic everything, even with the windows closed we could still smell it inside. The young guys applying it were maybe 20-25yo and had PPE consisting of a tshirt and sunglasses, breathing it all it and getting covered in splatter from it. We asked afterwards how they can stand that smell, and they said that they couldn't even smell it anymore, and they just live with being itchy all the time. I can't imagine those fellas are still among the living at this point.Reply
We \*JUST\* spent a pandemic trying to convince a lot of people that protecting your lungs is kind of important, and I'd bet that most of them would still argue with their now diminished lung capacity that they still don't need to.Reply
"the very air you breathe is a toxic fume" now that carbon levels are more or less double what they were before human industry, this rings quite trueReply
A lot of these ones are also neurotoxins, it's not just the respiratory system. Fumes from resin, welding, and the like.Reply
Just gonna say, been enjoying my time in r/crboxes because indoor air quality matters too.Reply
Believe it or not, tending Bonsai. A notable example was bonsai artist and tv personality Brian Batchelder. Many that are avid in the hobby have significant exposure to Sphagnum moss due to its usefulness for rooting and moisture retention, but fungal spores within the moss making contact with cuts have been linked with sporotrichosis. While symptoms are typically mild it can easily become life threatening if left unchecked. Called “Rose Gardener’s Disease”, it also impacts gardeners, nursery workers, terrarium enthusiasts, and others with frequent long term exposure to Sphagnum moss. \*\*\*Edit: Including information from others much more qualified on the subject than I mentioned in this thread: “Don't worry, you're constantly inhaling spores- moss or no moss. The air we breath is not sterile. We're inhaling mycobacteria, fungi, bacteria, etc all the time. Thank your lungs and immune system. They keep things in check very well. The whole "toxic mold exposure" is so overblown, especially when you know how much you're inhaling just generally. Good news is, invasive fungal diseases are exceedingly rare in immunocompetent folks (not that rare cases don't occur, they're just...rare). Sporotrichosis or "rose gardeners disease" occurs because there's an injury to the skin which deposits the fungus deeper. Even then, in generally healthy people, the disease only manifests as a skin/lymphatic issue.“Top-level comment
Mfer no way??!! I do a lot with carnivorous plants and sphagnum moss is the goto planting medium. Man this sucks lol Is it live sphag moss? Dried sphag have the same effects?Reply
Dried sphagnum would have the same effect but it really comes down to your frequency of exposure from what I can tell (not a doctor). For weekend projects you’re likely fine, but if it’s your day job you may want to consider a mask or increasing ventilation if handling in larger quantities. It’s very rare for the infection to occur but long term hobbyists end up rolling the dice much more over time.Reply
I usually dampen any soil medium before I work with it in my greenhouse to help knock down the dust. Also run an exhaust fan. A lot of potting soil and seed starting mix contains perlite, a porous volcanic glass. Not sure what the science says, but my intuition says it cannot be good to breath in. My dad died of pulmonary fibrosis a few years ago and it made me much more vigilant about protecting my lungs. It is one of the worst diseases I have ever witnessed. Edit spellingReply
Replying by copying my own comment on this thread: Don't worry, you're constantly inhaling spores- moss or no moss. The air we breath is not sterile. We're inhaling mycobacteria, fungi, bacteria, etc all the time. Thank your lungs and immune system. They keep things in check very well. The whole "toxic mold exposure" is so overblown, especially when you know how much you're inhaling just generally. Good news is, invasive fungal diseases are exceedingly rare in immunocompetent folks (not that rare cases don't occur, they're just...rare). Sporotrichosis or "rose gardeners disease" occurs because there's an injury to the skin which deposits the fungus deeper. Even then, in generally healthy people, the disease only manifests as a skin/lymphatic issue. Source- I'm an infectious disease physician. Also, just wear a mask!Reply
What's your take on the rise of fungal infection due to climate change putting selective pressure on species to survive better near body temperature? I'm in Valley Fever central, so I'm a little more paranoid about it than the average person has to be.Reply
It's actually warmer environmental temperatures being more hospitable to fungi and has very little to do with the body's temperatures or the fungi's ability to survive in it. Changing temperatures are changing the epidemiology (distribution) of certain fungi and animals/insects carrying diseases. E.g. coccidioides (valley fever) being found in more northern parts of the US, when it was typically only found in AZ/CA, tick activity changing and worsening Lyme prevalence, more dengue cases because of change in mosquito breeding habitats It's a very real problem that no one is paying attention. Also no one cares.Reply
Yeah it’s just a hobby of mine. Regardless going forward I’ll be masking and wearing gloves. Appreciate yaReply
That's crazy! Also, how was this NOT an episode of House?!?!Reply
Because it was Lupus.Reply
This vexes meReply
If you trust AI, it was: Episode: Season 5, Episode 21 ("Saviors") Original Air Date: April 13, 2009 Patient: Doug Swenson (played by Tim Rock), an environmental evangelist who collapses during a protest.Medical Case Summary The Clue: Doug is strictly opposed to commercially grown, pesticide-treated flowers. However, after missing an anniversary and trying to fix his troubled marriage, he bought his wife a bouquet of roses (which she had already left behind, leading him to throw them out).The Infection: Pricking his finger on a rose thorn allowed the fungus Sporothrix schenckii to enter his skin. The Complication: The fungal infection caused lesions on his cranial and phrenic nerves, triggering balance issues and persistent hiccups. Treatments like steroids and growth factors mistakenly worsened the condition by spreading it to his bones and heart before House realized the true sourceReply
This is the only one here im genuinely surprised to see. All the other I knew of or went "ya I could see that" but not this one wtfReply
Wow, that’s news to me about the sphagnum..also, spraying pesticides without proper PPE.Reply
100%, pesticides will get ya. Never had to spray personally at the greenhouse but shit has to be taken very seriously. Constantly washed my hands, changed clothes as soon as I got home, the whole 9. Those chemicals are no joke.Reply
I'm not an expert, but after looking into this, I think your post overstates the risk. According to the CDC, sporotrichosis is **usually acquired when the fungus enters through cuts or scrapes while handling contaminated plant material**, including sphagnum moss, not by inhaling spores. The CDC also notes that **lung infections are less common**, and disseminated disease typically occurs in people with weakened immune systems. Likewise, the Merck Manual states that *Sporothrix* is **not usually inhaled** but enters through breaks in the skin. I think it would be more accurate to describe it as a rare occupational hazard rather than implying that routine bonsai work commonly leads to life threatening respiratory disease. [[link removed] [[link removed]Reply
A point of contention, sporotrichosis most frequently (though admittedly not solely) enters the body through cuts in the skin, not the lungs, so gloves will offer protection. Also, for clarity's sake, it's fungus spores in the sphagnum we're talking about, not the spores the sphagnum moss makes to reproduce.Reply
Thank you for sharing this! I keep orchids. I’ll definitely check into this.Reply
Oil painting without ventilationTop-level comment
Had an old art teacher that despised the smell of turpentine - she could smell it from across the room on my dried brushes that I cleaned at home Her reaction may have been reasonable considering the damage they'd done to her lungs: she sounded like a ragged version of late stage emphysema, she said it was due to years in unventilated rooms full of fumesReply
She showed you at the cost of her health just how important ventilation isReply
Makes me think of my 7-fingered high school woodshop teacher. Definitely adds some credibility to warnings about the risks involved.Reply
For a couple passes, I read this as your woodshop teacher added 2 extra fingers to his hand 🙃Reply
I think we all had that guy.Reply
And for a less silent death, the oil rags can also spontaneously combust, setting your house on fire.Reply
I was a hotshot oil painting student at an art school and actually had to quit my entire art career because I developed a sensitivity to paint solvents after 3 years of oil painting. So like...also don't get it on your hands. The chances are low (iirc 1/3000) but it can really fuck up your health. I still paint for fun but no longer use solvents at all.Reply
Was a commercial illustrator for publishing houses, did most of my work in oils until I found out that the fumes from the paint and the solvent were eating the inside of my nose. Nosebleeds all the time. Switched to acrylic and never looked back, improved my speed of output immensely. You couldn't pay me to work in oil now.Reply
Acrylic may never \*quite\* achieve the luminous qualities of oil but man some of the new mediums get you pretty close. And they are so astronomically easier and safer to work with. I did oils in college when there was a dedicated studio I could go to. Once I graduated and was painting in my bedroom I went acrylic and never looked backReply
Any specific mediums you'd recommend?Reply
I was an oil painter in art school, but had to switch to watercolor & digital. I started getting really bad headaches from the fumes. This was 20+ years ago, I rarely draw or paint at all now.Reply
Bob Ross is an example.Reply
Wait. Please explain. My wife is an oil painter and paints in our dining room pretty much every day. What's the hazard?Reply
*in the dining room every day*? even if that *were* safe, doesn't the smell get to you guys???Reply
I switched mediums when I had my first child cause I was worried about the fumes. I sure enjoyed oil painting, though.Reply
Horseback riding. Statistically more dangerous than riding a motorcycle, the longer you do it the greater your chances of getting hurt. And to my understanding that's only while riding, and doesn't include the risk of getting kicked while being around the animal.Top-level comment
Just as dangerous as motorcycles and no safety culture of all gear all the time. I don’t care if I’m the only one at my barn doing it, I always wear my body protector/ air-vest while riding. I also wear my helmet and tall boots anytime while handling a horse on the ground. My boots have saved my feet from an errant hoof too many times to count. And this is just basic stuff. You get into jumping, XC, and managing a hot ride and people regularly get seriously hurt or die. That’s why I don’t understand these instructors who push kids into jumping bigger and bigger fences without a solid base. They’re just asking for trouble.Reply
I relentlessly harass my friends into wearing helmets any time they're on a horse. I don't care if it's a fancy parade and you're only going a mile and the helmet doesn't match your outfit. I'll never forget the cracking sound I heard at a horse show. A horse spooked, the girl got thrown, the horse was still unbalanced and stepped onto her head. Everyone in the ring heard the crack. We didn't know if it was her jaw, her skull, or her helmet. The EMTs took her away. Found out a couple hours later it was her helmet. She had a concussion but was otherwise fine. I bet she never wears a different brand of helmet for as long as she lives.Reply
jesus dude, the way you told that story I didn't realize she had a helmet on and thought she was just crushed in front of everyone. glad she's okayReply
Friend of mine was a nanny and took kids trail riding. She wore a helmet but horse stumbled, she fell off backwards and hit a rock right on her brain stem - dead at 20. So sad.Reply
Horses were superman's actual kryptonite.Reply
I rode horses when i was younger. I feel lucky to have made it out of that hobby with 1 concussion, a chipped tooth and a fractured foot, all from different incidents.Reply
4 concussions later, I'm done with babies, thoroughbreds, and big jumpers. Give me a beer drinkin' horse about 14.2 now.Reply
Yah. A hefty bike might fall on you, but it won't follow you across a field to press you into a fence until you're meat-flavored plasticine, or dance on you with half a ton of weight if it gets spooked. On the other hand, horses are somewhat less likely to catch fire, and will rarely dump you onto skin-removing tarmac at 80mph.Reply
What I'm getting from this is we should make semi-autonomous bikes which can follow you around and run into you at 60mph. And/or combustible horses.Reply
This is an outright misunderstanding or misrepresentation of the data. Horses are more likely to injure you per hour riden, but motorcycles are significantly more likely to result in fatalities. As a motorcycle rider, I hate when the data gets misrepresented. It's absolutely more dangerous to ride motorcycles, point blank. Unless you think a hospital visit is more severe than being a smudge on the road dead.Reply
It doesn’t help that horses are pranksters and often step or push people over because they think it’s so funny. I’ve had a few run ins with “silly” horses who lean into me randomly and have knocked me over just to whinny in my face. Bastatds.Reply
Yeah, one of the things my teacher emphasized the most was the importance of "defending your space", which usually means sticking an elbow into the horse when it starts pushing you. Not swinging it, mind you, but definitely pushing. His animals were very well trained but would still try to throw their weight around sometimes.Reply
My sister’s ex boyfriend got a heart transplant from a 19 year old girl who died after being kicked by a horse and my boyfriend’s grandfather died because he fell off a horse.Reply
DIY gel nail polish (the kind that’s cured with a UV light). It’s silent until it’s not - getting uncured gel on your skin or weak/thin nails can cause sensitization over time, leading to contact dermatitis and a *lifelong* acrylate allergy. This can happen the first time you use gel polish, or you can go years without any issue and then suddenly develop an allergy. Sounds like it would suck to develop an allergy and never be able to use gel polish again, right? Well, it’s even worse… a lot of medical products and devices like dental fillings and contact lenses, as well as many other cosmetics, contain those same acrylates that you’re now allergic to. Yay! Seriously, it boggles my mind that gel polish is available for non-professionals to buy. It can definitely happen at the salon as well, but I say DIY here because it’s so much more common when done at home with no training or education. There’s education out there for civilians now and more people are aware of the risks, but that wasn’t the case when I did DIY gel in high school and at-home kits were first appearing on the market. If you want pretty nails, there are so many options available with regular lacquer, and if you want gel extensions or a colour or design that you can only achieve with gel polish, trust it to the professionals.Top-level comment
::raises hand from the back:: I can still get professional gel nails done if the tech is SUPER careful not to get any uncured polish on my skin. It may have something to do with professional brands vs. the drugstore/amazon varieties too. HOWEVER. I can no longer use many sunscreens. Most of them have acrylate polymers/monomers as stabilizers. If i put it on and go out in the sun, I’ll break out in hives. I pretty much have to rely on mineral based sunscreens and UV protective clothing now.Reply
Careful doing any painting. Almost all house paints are acrylic latex blends. Be careful using any spray paints as well.Reply
As an australian this would be ultra bad. Sharing.Reply
This happened to me during COVID with at-home gel kits! It was fine until it wasn't. Painful contact dermatitis, my fingers were bleeding and would not heal - it was months of agony. Haven't touch gel since. I haven't had any additional reactions to acrylate-containing items.. yet.Reply
Happened to me! I now can’t wear contacts and when having surgery, I had to have special adhesives. I just use press ons now but I loved to do my nails and it’s such a bummer that I developed this! Took about a year but it came on strong and uncomfortable.Reply
I make my own press on nails using gel polish while wearing gloves. Didn't want to risk it but still love working with gel.Reply
Man I'm so glad I stopped after like the 3rd time with gel. Idk how I'd live without contacts. I'm just not functional in glasses. I was a wreck last time my allergies got so bad I couldn't wear them because I would blink them out. I'm so sorry that happened to you.Reply
I heard a story about someone who got veneers put in and their nails done for a wedding. Everything went fine but soon after the wedding, she broke out into a continuous allergic reaction for something like months until she finally figured out that she was constantly exposed to the allergen which happened to be the acrylate in the veneers.Reply
can you imagine being allergic to your teeth?! yeesh...Reply
This is a hill I will die on! It shocks me how many women are doing their own gel nails and have no idea whatsoever about the dangers. I stick to regular nail lacquer.Reply
So far the only danger of regular lacquer has been to my wallet 😔Reply
It's kind of terrible how easily available these gel sets are for general consumers. People are buying them for their kids, practicing on friends, and following zero safety precautions. Even more shocking is how many ignore or straight up get mad at people warning them or telling them how to practice safely.Reply
This happened to me, it hurt so so bad and now I can’t get my nails done. Is there any options I have? Would normal acrylic be okay without gel or will I have this allergy to everything nail related ?Reply
Definitely go and get properly tested by a dermatologist if you haven't. I had a reaction and immediately assumed I had this allergy but the allergy test was negative. The dermatologist suggested trying a better quality brand on just 1 finger and sure enough, no reaction to higher-end gel, but more importantly, it meant I was not allergic to all acrylatesReply
Hey, I did my manicurist diploma back in 2006. I had gel or acrylic nails done every few days during my studies, and at least once a fortnight after for many years. It was only when I became a tattoo artist in 2012 and had to wear gloves every day that I went back to natural nails as I was popping through the fingertips mid session. It took about 8 months for years of deep ongoing damage to grow out. Everything other than toxic-chemical-free nail lacquer is doing damage to your nails, preventing them from breathing at the same time as drying them out. Every single time the surface of your nails are filed to allow gel or acrylic to hold, you’re destroying your nails. To go now and have your fingernails filed again when they’re already screaming at you to stop is not a good idea at all. If your hair was melting because you kept flat-ironing it after brutal bleach jobs, you’d stop wouldn’t you? This is no different. So give your poor little fingers a chance!! Give them a proper break. It’s short term annoyance for a long term gain. Just pop some nail strengthening lacquer on them to protect them, and massage shea or jojoba oil into them twice a day.Reply
> preventing them from breathing I only do my nails occasionally and always though I was oversensitive because wearing polish felt like my nails couldn't "breathe", kind of glad to see this here. Makes me feel like I'm not nuts.Reply
I am so sorry that this happened to you!! I will say that I’m not a doctor or a cosmetologist, just a hobbyist/nail enthusiast so definitely trust medical professionals over randos on Reddit, but I’d unfortunately say that you should probably steer clear of acrylic as well. Thankfully, there are tons of beautiful options (especially with boutique & indie brands) for regular (air-drying) nail polish nowadays!Reply
Allergies do not go away unfortunately. I got a full allergy panel so I know exactly what chemicals I have issues with. If you use an ACDS (american contact dermatitis soceity) allergist/dermatologist they can give you a code to plug in to either the ACDS Camp or SkinSafe apps and that will show you "safe" products you can use. I can't get mine "done" but I use Kerasal Multi-Purpose Nail Repair (does wonders for cuticles) and a stregnthener/top coat weekly and my nails look WAY better than ever. I can use a lot of regular (not gel) polish too, but my nails look so good now that I skip it! Press on nails (sticky tab) should be ok with a methacrylate allergy, but be very cautious with glue as it's close enough in composition that it could cause a cross-reaction. No gel, no acrylic, and nothing that needs a UV light.Reply
My mum started doing gel polishes at home during Melbourne's lockdowns (mind you, one of her best friends is a qualified nail technician so they'd set up a video call and would do their own nails whilst chatting and my mums friend would guide her through how to do all this safely). Did some research and decided it's just not worth the risk long term. She makes her own press on nails now.Reply
Ooh making your own press ons! I have been reading the comments quite disheartened, thinking of what to do with my gel nail supplies. This sounds like the prefect solution!Reply
I make my own press ons. It’s just an overall easier and safer way to do it. I don’t have an allergy but I can’t do nail art with my left hand to save my life. I like being able to make them over several days if I need to or I can make sets in advance if I get an idea that I want to try.Reply
Then you got companies like beetles who have higher levels than allowed of certain chemicals in their polis gel polish and sell under powered UV lamps. There was an article recently wish I had it handy about how they know and they said it's more expensive to do it right and people keep buying their product so theyre just going to keep hurting people.Reply
Making pottery can also be dangerous. The dust from dried clay is def harmful to your lungs. ALWAYS wear a mask when working with dried clay.Top-level comment
My hobby is playing the banjo. Not in anyway silent but the risk of my wife beating me to death one day has increased by about 4000%Top-level comment
Have you thought about taking up the bagpipes? Then your neighbors can also enjoy some music.Reply
Have you considered the possibility that he might live a couple of doors down from you?Reply
Could be...in which case I will happily grab a set of pipes and join him! Sorry, neighbors. (I did take pipe lessons for a while, just long enough to be dangerous.)Reply
Dude did you miss the comment where bagpipes can grow mold and kill you?Reply
There's a real heavy-bass song that I like with hilarious YouTube comments. Such as: *"My neighbours listen to this song every night. Whether they want to or not."* *"My neighbour liked it so much, he threw a brick through my window, so he could hear it better."* *"My neighbour called the police so they could come listen to it too."* For the record, I'd never force my music on others. But those comments do make me giggle.Reply
I have an Irish whistle (an expensive one) that plays well into the 3rd octave. Birds fall from the sky. My German neighbor accuses me of war crimes. Wife left years ago.Reply
I had a cat that would hear me playing it, walk right up to me and BITE me.Reply
I used to occasionally stay in campgrounds during work trips (forestry work in Alaska) and some guy stayed up past midnight, on a TUESDAY, playing his banjo. I just worked 14 hours and had to be up at 6 am. I'll admit I had some murderous banjo thoughts.Reply
People really need to get yelled at more in public. We do society a disservice by staying silent.Reply
I did once get up in my pajamas to yell at a couple who fired up a chainsaw at 2 am. They looked at me completely stunned, I'm sure I was quite a sight, but to my relief they did put the chainsaw away. My husband hates when I put myself in the middle of it though because we do have a fair number of unhinged folks in AK who will pull a gun over a minor disagreement.Reply
lol beat to death with your own banjo…I bet it’s happened before.Reply
White Lung / Bakers Lung. Years of inhaling flour, leads to bad things.Top-level comment
Do hobbiest bakers really get this? I thought this was more professional bakers who are breathing it 8hrs a dayReply
No, it's from being constantly exposed.Reply
yeah I make bread max once a week more like once every two weeks. Should I be concerned?Reply
NoReply
Urban exploration sounds cool and all, but the cumulative exposure to hazards and toxins in places that are either abandoned or where youre not supposed to be reduces life expectancy measurably.Top-level comment
I've definitely climbed up a building just to discover asbestos warning signs. We were some dumb kids who didn't stop to wonder why a building was wrapped in plastic.Reply
As long as you aren't disturbing the asbestos you'll be fine*. Although no asbestos is safe, the blue stuff is much more dangerous than the white kind but generally hard to get at. *probablyReply
The blue stuff is really the only kind dangerous enough for low digit exposures being enough to cause mesothelioma. The white stuff is more of an occupational hazard type deal. Unless it’s pipe/duct insulation, don’t fuck with that shit. It’s very friable. Crocidolite is the blue stuff.Reply
> mesothelioma It's been _decades_ and I still can't read this word without thinking, "If you or a loved one [...etc...] might be entitled to financial compensation."Reply
Will never stop. Same with JG and structured settlementsReply
**877-CASH-NOW!!**Reply
I'm kind of waiting for the lung issues tbh. When I was a kid me and some friends played dodgeball in an absolutely ancient abandoned shooting range (perfect for dodgeball as it was a long thin room with walls at both ends). After about ten minutes of playing and bouncing the ball off the ceiling and walls we suddenly noticed it became intensely dusty, almost misty inside there, like a full on haze making it hard to see from one end to the other. We carried on playing for a while longer because we're dumb kids. We got told after by our friends dad that the range was closed and being demolished because the ceiling was full of old broken asbestos. So I essentially intentionally breathed in powdered asbestos for half an hour as a kid.Reply
I spent a decade working in paper mills. Wet end is 120°F with 100% RH. The walls were *black* with mold. Nothing you can do in that environment. I tried to minimize time spent out there but I haven't even mentioned the complex and proprietary chemicals that we don't even really fully understand what they do in the long run because the chemical companies keep innovating. That's not to mention the H2S risk of the rotting organics in deep crevices in the bowels of the basement. I'm glad I got out.Reply
I remember reading a story about these brothers who would go into abandoned buildings looking for scrap metal; well, they came upon an abandoned factory that dealt with radioactive materials, but they didn’t go in it, instead they found what they thought was a shed and found a lot of metal, but before they could start hauling it away they were caught and told to leave, which they did. About a week later one of the brothers started getting really sick, and it got worse fast until he died. The doctors determined it was extreme radiation poisoning that killed him, but no one could figure out how since the other brother who was also in the shed was completely fine. Then about a week later the dead brother’s son starts to get really sick, and that’s when people started freaking out as to how. Finally the son showed someone a piece of metal he had found in his dad’s pocket when he died and it was tested; it was extremely radioactive and the son ended up dying and anyone around it also got really sick. They figure the brother pocketed the metal piece and forgot about it. I think the family tried suing the factory for not properly sealing the facility.Reply
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This is why I love channels like Proper People. I can explore these places without putting myself at risk and they are respectful and don't really move anything, leaving the place as pristine as possible or take things with them.Reply
The ungodly amounts of different types of mold I've encountered surely weren't good for my lungs. But I think it can be done in a somewhat safer way, wearing ffp2 masks if needed, wear gloves when climbing ect. Just use basic human sense when exploring. Sure, some places are cool, but if you know there's something highly toxic in there, just ditch the plan and go somewhere else. In my teens I didn't care, but getting older I find myself more and more choosing "safer" places with good ventilation, and just do less stupid shit. Safe spots can be cool to explore too, no need to get yourself in (health) danger.Reply
Idk if this counts as a "silent killer," this one seems pretty dangerous on it's face.Reply
I think people assume they know the risks of such a hobby and assume that they are mostly about getting trespassed or arrested, falling through something in disrepair, or encountering squatters. You know, the types of things that you convince yourself you can be extra cautious about. People don’t think about the dangers of stirring up standing water in places, or the toxic materials that might have become exposed over time, or the hazards that can be introduced by changing security or equipment conditions.Reply
Or the dangers of *confined spaces* and oxygen depletion. Old abandoned metal storage containers, buried traincars, old oil/water/fuel reservoirs can rust on the inside and consume the oxygen. Easy to just get apoxic, lose consciousness, and die right there.Reply
Think I read a story on something like this, family members went into the basement one by one and did not return. I think the last person was barely able to escape before losing consciousness. I think there was a build up of some gas that slowly displaced the oxygen and they all fainted soon after they entered.Reply
So subtle, yes, urban expirationReply
I think the big subset of this one is toxic gas. It's really easy to end up below ground level, and without ventilation it's really easy for toxic gasses to accumulate there. You probably won't even notice that anything is wrong until suddenly you're passing out... forever.Reply
man ultra sedentary hobbies like hardcore gaming, binge watching tv, or deep dive digital art are massive silent killers because you end up locked in a frozen posture for hours on end your metabolism slows right down, your hip flexors lock up, and your spine slowly deconditions from lack of actual movement on the flip side, highly repetitive hobbies like intense crafting, sewing, or instrument playing can quietly wreck your joints, wrists, and nervous system through chronic overuse you get so lost in the hyper focus that you ignore the subtle pain until it hardens into a permanent repetitive strain injury or chronic back trouble that creeps up on you years laterTop-level comment
LOL I am a freelance editor by day, gamer by night, and my other hobbies are mostly sewing, crocheting, knitting, and painting. I am screeeeewedReply
Maybe a treadmill-desk? Or... I know someone whose hobbies (and work) are almost entirely in front of a desktop screen, and they have smallish barbell-type weights to strengthen their arms and wrists when they're not actively typing or whipping a mouse around. They also have one of those 'get up from your chair and stretch' desktop apps, and when weather permits they'll take a short walk as part of their standard daily routine.Reply
You know, I always thought they were silly expensive (treadmill desks) but then I just looked it up, and...they're not! I have a standing desk already, but I may actually do the treadmill desk thing, and the weights aren't a bad idea either. I do use the pomodoro timer thing and try to get up and walk around and stretch.Reply
Oh man this is my life right now. Chronic back pain loop from sitting too much. I basically was born with a bad back and sitting made it worse. Now I'm about to turn 40 and starting a training program that a grandma could do better than me. Slow progress to hopefully escape my pain and strengthen a body that I've neglected for most my life. Make exercising a habit now, whatever age you are. Or one day you could find yourself stuck having to take baby steps to claw back your mobility. Or you'll just be in pain forever.Reply
jokes on you, I was already in pain forever :D having fucked up feet (and therefore legs) and a back injury I got at 8 that I couldn’t get anyone to take seriously until I was in my 20s has made exercise f u nReply
Chronic tendonitis. Not just the wrist/thumbs either. It will get you in the arms, shoulders, and ankles, too. Gotta stretch and move around regularly. Building muacle takes strain off tendons as well. You dont want to develop tendonitis. It will make exercising all the harder, and can take months to- a year to heal and will likely flare back up once you get it the first time. It ranges in pain but a bad bout can make you want to scream when you do certain motions or cause psrsistent aches bad enough to prevent sleep.Reply
What about scrollingReply
Thank you for that positive outlook. See, it works!Reply
Wow, I'm feeling better already! Thank you [account] !Reply
That sounds like BS tbhReply
Just keep scrolling thenReply
Ah so I simply haven't scrolled enough? See you at the bottom!!!!Reply
That’s the joke.Reply
You've got other things to worry about.Reply
I came right down to the comments to say gaming as well. I am in my late twenties and a lot of my friends are more hardcore gamers. I just went to have a look at their steam profiles, and they all sort of spend around 40+ hours a week gaming. They all work full time jobs, and do their thing so its not really a taboo subject where they think anything is wrong. But health wise, you can absolutely see the difference between them and my friends that dont do all of that. Even at our young age. Its scary to see, but I also dont think my gamer friends realise just how much worse off they are compared to other groups of people. That group has its own normal to it. I fear my generation is part of a mass experiment of what happens to humans who sit at a screen all day. In 30 years times we will just have loads of papers and studies around the lives these people live and their health outcomes.Reply
I just want mention that you can game standing up. That’s what I’ve done the last five years although it’s definitely easier with a controller than a keyboard and mouse. Still not good to be gaming 40 hours a week though.Reply
I was in the same boat as well. But then looked in the mirror and decided enough is enouhg. Decided to lose the weight(112kg to 83kg, took about 16months) and hit the gym recently to build up muscles. It has really boosted my self-esteem and my mood significantly. I still game at least 40 hours a week with a full time job, but never skip my workout days(4 days/week). Unfortunately, I cant say the same for my friends. They are all hardcore gameres as well, but i just couldn't convince them to join me on the journey.Reply
A few years back I thought: “I already work standing up, why don’t I also game standing up?” And boom, made gaming more healthy.Reply
Movement is the most important factor. Standing or sitting for long periods of time is really not good for you.Reply
If you're not moving around a bit standing isn't really better than sitting. In some ways it can even be worse depending on your health. That being said it is easier to move around if you're already standingReply
Movement is better, but standing is better than sitting. You are bearing your own weight and you core needs to be more fully engaged. Among other things.Reply
That's not really the case at all. Standing still does a lot more harm a lot faster as well. Between sitting and standing, sitting is better, you're literally killing yourself though. Best course of action is walking, stretching, doing some sort of light exercises for a couple of minutes every 20~30 minutes. Don't stay still for hours unless you are sleeping. Honestly, the human body simply isn't made for 8+ hours of screen time no matter the position you stay.Reply
Stained glass… it has it all! Glass shards, glass dust, lead, caustic chemicals, and did i mention lead? lots of lead.Top-level comment
I once inhaled solder fumes while doing stained glass art and was *very* sick. I was lucky it wasn’t worse.Reply
Shooting guns (or working at a gun range) can lead to elevated lead levels in the blood. Outdoor ranges, good ventilation, and mindful hygiene practices largely mitigate this but levels can otherwise rise quicker than you expect if you shoot a lot and/or shoot in poorly ventilated indoor ranges.Top-level comment
Between the extra noise and the extra exposure to lead and gases, I pretty much never enjoy shooting indoors. It's also generally a lot more expensive.Reply
I suspect indoor ranges could be some people's only option in their area, and also the poor souls employed at those ranges. Like the dude who has sweep up all the casings and all the delicious lead particulates along with it!Reply
Long term shooting of high caliber guns can also give you a form of incurable brain disease as your brain shifts in your skull frequently due to the gun recoil. You can get hundreds of these "micro concussions" that you don't notice until enough brain cells die and the condition becomes fatal.Reply
And you can bring home that lead oh you and poison your kids/family too.Reply
Gaming, if you never balance it with exercise. Your back, neck, and wrists eventually collect the bill.Top-level comment
Unless the game is Dance Dance Revolution!Reply
Or Beat Saber! At one point I had a mod that tracked calories burned while playingReply
Or Fitness Boxing on Switch! I am a sweaty mess after like 10-15 min in that game hahaReply
Or ring fit adventure, also on switch. It's so goodReply
We need a sequel so badly!!Reply
I fucked up my wrist with a combination of excessive Beatsaber (2+ hours every day, expert+), fencing and having to write my final project for my degree (10+ hours if PC work with little breaks). This led to periostitis and finally my wrist developing a ganglion which now often hurts.Reply
I gave myself bloody tennis elbow playing beatsaber!! I'm a full time athlete and *that* was what took me out!Reply
I tried using it as a workout but I got too into it and started getting shoulder painReply
I fucked up my shoulders playing too much beat saber, Great game thoughReply
I've never sweat so much as I did when I played DDR. 4 or 5 songs and I was cooked.Reply
I had a friend in high school who lost a ton of weight playing DDR.Reply
Wake up, deadlift 400 lbs, game 16h straightReply
Ahh I see you play old school rs.Reply
My fiancé literally will do pushups and pull ups in between super smash brosReply
This how I lost weight back in 2010. I played a lot of battlefield 3. I'm terrible at online FPS games but enjoy them with friends. Anyways, any time I died I either did 5 sit-ups, 5 push-ups, or 3 pull-ups. Worked pretty well for me since I died a lot.Reply
Thats awesome man. Not only for seeing it through in FPS games when youre bad but having fun, but for being disciplined enough to do the exercise. Sometimes I make up rules like do a set of curls and raises in-between every game of Dota, but I get inconsistent but I think I'm gonna get back on that train 🙌🏻🙏🏻Reply
Not while gaming but I got in great shape doing sets during little breaks at work. Code is compiling? Bust out 8 pull ups in the doorway pull up bar in the office. In a meeting and the person had to run to the bathroom? Set of push-ups. /r/bodyweightfitness has a recommended routine and while its probably better to do it all at once I get the whole thing done 3 times a week just doing a few sets during breaks or downtime.Reply
Pretty much applies to any hobby that doesn't involve exercise if that's the only thing you do / care aboutReply
At least your 5-10 times of masturbation per day ensures a healthy prostateReply
combat sports that involve strikes. You may be fine for years, but one day, all that head trauma that added up over time will manifestTop-level comment
I know a guy like this. Was a boxer for much of his younger life, and a good one. Golden Gloves, Olympic team alternate, etc. He was mostly fine until his 50s but now has almost zero short term memory and is very easily distracted. All due to the repeated head trauma decades ago.Reply
Do they still call it "dementia pugilistica"?Reply
You're training wrong if you're doing constant hard sparring.Reply
Those dudes running around Chernobyl on YouTube setting up apartments and going swimming and whateverTop-level comment
My wife been telling me I need to get a hobby, I'll pick this one for sureReply
3.6 roentgen. Not great, not terrible.Reply
It's not 3.6 roentgen, it's 15,000.Reply
The worst part is that we gotta do that at least once in our livesReply
Set up apartments in Chernobyl?Reply
Your turn will comeReply
What am I missing lol I have to look this up.Reply
Gambling. Watching sports and being so invested in seeing your team win that you rage when they don’t.Top-level comment
Domestic violence rates already shoot up in an area when the home team loses. Now add people losing money to the mixReply
The emergency phone operators in England always tell horror stories after the England Men lose in the World Cup. This year was no different as calls spiked immediately following the final whistle. Really sad.Reply
My ex, while not physically abusive, liked to mock me for being too emotional or sensitive. He did not like me pointing out the fact that he has screamed at a football match so badly that he lost his voice for two days, just because his team lost. Anger is an emotion too.Reply
No, you see, anger is the *acceptable* emotion, because it's the manly emotion. 🙄Reply
ugh. Glad he's your ex.Reply
Emotional abuse is a thing, too. Glad to hear he's your ex.Reply
Did you know that it doesn’t have to be a local team losing - rates spike no matter the game and the outcomeReply
While I used to bet in old days, I would bet against my team. If we win, nice I lost some money worth it. If we loose, here is some extra money to feel better.Reply
Ha ha. Good strategyReply
lol my luck is so bad with gambling that I usually bet for the opposite team that I’m rooting forReply
I don’t think gambling is a “hobby”. It’s an addictive get rich quick schemeReply
For a real gambling addict it’s not even about trying to get rich. Winning money is merely a means to gamble moreReply
I had a college teacher who did a TON of Star Trek miniatures for the show for years and had almost uncontrollable ticks and twitches after leaving the industry and later became a teacher full time... Turns out... Glue fumes.... PPE everyone!... yeah its looks stupid... but....Top-level comment
Art professor said he refused to teach us glass blowing because we would inhale and die . 😂😂Top-level comment
martial arts, the more you get into it the higher chance for brain damageTop-level comment
Even grappling sports like wrestling and bjj you do get a knock to the head every now and then And all the risk to your jointsReply
This goes with most competitive physical sports. Looking at the football world cup you can see intentional body slams and headbutts. Though, yes, it's more severe when the name of the game is to break your opponents.Reply
I've been doing Muay Thai for almost a year now, I just got rocked for the first time during sparring. I'll be more careful now but its super addictive.Reply
I’ve been doing it for 3. Been rocked a few times at 2 diff gyms, but if your coach isn’t actively taking that person that rocked you aside to have a discussion it’s a problem. Just recently some teenager rocked me. Coach saw and everyone stopped sparring and did burpees. Sparring is for refining skills not inflating egos.Reply
you know that you are 100% shaking your brain around in there, wrecking your body, you could possibly take the wrong shot and something awful happen, but you still go. that’s how fun and exhilarating Muay Thai is.Reply
I wrestled in high school and sustained two concussions in four years. Never really had a problem other than some light sensitivity. Took several years off from sports, then picked up rugby. Three head hits in a year and a half, always drank it off, never got checked out, never had any issues beyond light sensitivity or some brain fog for like, two days. The sixth and final head hit I got caused me daily diabillitating migraines for months, as well as random, painful joint swelling and other physical symptoms of my nervous system having issues. Scared the absolute shit out of me. I never saw doctors for concussions because it was just like, whatever, I hit my head like I pulled a muscle. Ice and rest. The migraines and inflammation subsided around the same time about six months after my injury but I'm still not cognitively the same over two years later. I definitely permanently fucked myself up playing fast and loose and was too receptive to the rugby culture of "concussions don't exist." But I wonder if I might have tolerated or even avoided my adult head injuries if I hadn't been concussed twice as a teenager.Reply
I would like to point out that the top 5 comments are related to respiratory issues. Consider what you are inhaling guys!Top-level comment
I’ve been hand Sewing leather for about five years and my right wrist is pretty messed up from it. I try to be careful. my sister is a physical therapist has given me many tips and pointers to minimize damage.Top-level comment
what tipsReply
Her latest was “stop doing that” The main ones are to use your shoulders and elbows more than your wrists. To have the work piece at a proper ergonomic work height and have ample space to fully move. Not making your body bend to avoid a table or wall etc.Reply
As a yoga teacher, I agreeeeeee!!! We people use our wrists or calves instead of the large muscles. Shifting to the big muscles provides immediate relief, but the habit can be so hard to change.Reply
I would add get some good, well-fitted compression gloves... The fingerless ones that extend to a few inches past your wrist. In my experience with knee, wrist, and vein issues has been to compress before the warning pains start coming, and also heed the warning pains before actual damage is done.Reply
Sailing. Any kind of boating really. The water reflects a lot of ultraviolet up right at you. The biggest killer of sailors isn't drowning, storms, even drinking. It's skin cancer. ETA that's not actually true...there are many cases of skin cancer but that is often treatable today.Top-level comment
One time I went sailing (I sail a lot) and forgot my sunscreen and had nothing on the boat. It was a mild sunny day, highs of 63, light breeze, absolutely great day. Decided to just sail, it was my only day off in weeks. I got absolutely DESTROYED. I was **swollen** from the sunburn. Took a week to recover in bed. Never again. (I believe this is called second degree sunburn.) Still sail regularly. Never without a hat, glasses, sunscreen and at least long sleeves. I get checked every year for skin cancer. Any mole that even looks remotely suspicious gets take out.Reply
I'm a DJ. Many DJs completely neglect to protect their hearing in these loud environments. This causes significant hearing loss which can result in reduced awareness, leading to accidental deaths. Loop earplugs are $60 and don't affect your music quality folks. It's not worth the lifelong consequences. This goes for concert and festivalgoers too.Top-level comment
I go to a lot of concerts and I wear earplugs. The sounds that are important are actually clearer with them in.Reply
I fantasize about some sort of zero-G scenario where I can lay back and paint models. I'm always shrimping up at the table.Reply
My favourite yoga position, "the cashew".Reply
Get yourself a standing desk, or just put up an ironing board to use as a table while you paint or build. Much better for your back, posture & circulation.Reply
This is where a drafting table comes in handy. It's at the right height for sitting or standing and the table top tilts up.Reply
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Some things cannot be unseen.Reply
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I paint with oils, and no one can tell you exactly what solvents like gamsol will do to you. But I will tell you right now, based on all the older painters I know and myself as I age…. Something ain’t right. And when I use a lot of gamsol in one day I literally get rainbow hallucinations that don’t hurt and are actually really pretty to see, but like. That can’t be good.Top-level comment
It is possible you are having seizures. You should get checked out by a doctor, get an MRI.Reply
Anything having to do with refined tastes in alcohol.Top-level comment
So true. Spent years trying to find the perfect Whisky. Turns out I found the perfect recipe for colon cancer.Reply
You doing ok with it?Reply
I used to love cocktails. I have gastritis now. Probably not caused by alcohol, but I need to avoid it now. It's nice not having hangovers and having more energy. I've accepted alcohol isn't part of my life anymoreReply
Hobby electronics. Fumes from flux and vapours from solvents like acetone and isopropyl alcohol are horrible for your lungs, and leaded solder isn't great for you (even if it does arguably produce better joints).Top-level comment
Tbh, flux from solder is the only real concern hefe. I've been making and building electronics for 20 years, and had significant exposure to acetone by using it for vapor smoothing 3d prints, and isopropyl alcohol for... Well frankly anything because it's so damn useful. I'm also extremely asthmatic. Neither has caused any worsening of my condition or an attack. You'd have to really confine yourself for extremely long periods.Reply
Apparently adding ventilation ruins the meta here. Wood working, resin crafting, pottery, painting, welding, need mobile for urban exploring, and especially the gamers could benefit from some fresh airTop-level comment
A lot of y'all are missing the "silent" part of this question.Top-level comment
swimming at chernnobyl 😭😭😭Reply
So going to concerts and being right next to the speakers....?Reply
You're probably joking but you could develop tinnitus from a single concert next to speakers, no need to do it multiple times waiting for symptoms to show, wear your ear protection people.Reply
"a silent killer hobby is chain smoking"Reply
I was actually surprised when I started sewing how much fibres and dust some material shed. Like enough that I’ve contemplated a mask on a project or two.Top-level comment
The obvious ones get named a lot. The real silent killers are the ones that don't feel bad while you do them, scrolling, solo gaming for hours, anything that quietly eats the time you'd have spent with people or moving. No single day hurts. That's the trap.Top-level comment
I’m not sure how much this would affect you over time, but I am a flight instructor and fly general aviation planes every day. We are one of the few industries that still use lead in our fuel. Long term exposure I imagine would lead to higher lead levels than the rest of the population. How much I couldn’t say. But lead is wildly harmful to us so I’m sure it has all sorts of affects.Top-level comment
From what I’ve read, pilots also get higher exposure to radiation in higher atmospheres and uv rays.Reply
Going to Burning Man. The dust will ruin your lungs and destroy all your gear. The never ending expenses will drain your bank account. And the stress of a week in the desert will either destroy you and your relationships or, be the greatest thing that ever happened to you. But still, lots of destruction.Top-level comment
Everything I've ever heard about Burning Man makes it sound like a drugged up fever dream techno cult boot camp.Reply
The hours and hours and hours sitting in your car waiting in line to get in and out can't be good for you either.Reply
Pigeon racing. Those fellas don't live very long and are full of diseases by they time they go clogs up...and pigeons have even shorter lives. Seriously though, owners get Pigeon fancier's lung, histoplasmosis and cryptococcosis, psittacosis (ornithosis), and none of them are nice. Yeah, pigeons are nasty.Top-level comment
Imagine dying to *Pidgeon Fanciers Lung*, holy shit I would die again from embarrassmentReply
I used to layout a racing pigeon magazine. The obituaries were the first article out of respect. I didn’t piece it together but you’re right, many of them died younger than average.Reply
I'm sorry to bypass everything you just said but clogs up is now my favorite thing everReply
I'll throw my favorite in the mix: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. While "silent killer" is a stretch, it's definitely not as kind ont he body as people make it out to be. If you don't train smart, the general attrition on your joints is brutal - torn ligaments in the knees, wear on your hip joints, cervical vertebra issues and bulging disks in your spine: all just a part of the long-term game if you train how 90% of the people on the mats do. I'm 13 years in, and at 31 years old I wake up feeling like I'm 40+ some days. I'm just now, at black belt, starting to take my maintenance seriously. There IS the risk of death, like everything. Every now and again, you hear of someone dying of a stroke or cervical artery dissection, and everyone freaks out for a few weeks before forgetting about it again. Same with the odd instance of someone getting paralyzed.Top-level comment
I only trained for 4 years (started in my 40's). I didn't stop because I didn't enjoy it. I stopped because it was a physical detriment to everything else I enjoyed more. It's been 6 years since I stopped and I still have chronic issues that developed during BJJ.Reply
My rule of thumb for if I've been going too hard is "Can I put my socks on in the morning without stretching first?"Reply
When I first started doing jewelry smithing in sterling silver and brass, my hands were fucked up all the time from some kind of dermatitis. Now they’re fine. This is not because anything I was doing changed, I just stopped having a skin reaction to whatever was bothering me. I’m glad it stopped but I also find it kinda unsettling that it did 😬 there’s also something called “brass chills” or “metal fume fever” you can get from brazing or soldering brass. If you heat it too hot without proper ventilation, the zinc will vaporize and can produce acute flu-like symptoms. This is also why you always see blacksmiths cautioning people about not using galvanized steel without properly stripping the zinc coating first.Top-level comment
Surprised pigeon fancying isn’t higher up. I am a nurse in the ICU and have had multiple patients come in with respiratory failure after a couple years of pigeon fancyingTop-level comment
Sea turtles drown in caves. Let that set in.Reply
I don't know if I'd call that a "silent" killer. Doesn't everyone know it's dangerous AF? I also don't really think it's an age thing - plenty of young people die doing it. It's just the law of large numbers. The more times you do it, the more times you roll the dice and sooner or later it comes up snake eyes.Reply
well it's hard to hear someone drown underwater, so it's probably pretty silent.Reply
So far, after reading a good majority of responses it sounds like pretty much being alive is the general consensus….Top-level comment
Hahaha so literally every single hobby 😂 thank goodness I don't have any hobbies, I should live foreverTop-level comment
Kind of a niche hobby: Fire breathing/eating Not only are you liable to light your face on fire at some point... Even if you never burn yourself and do everything perfectly you will unavoidably swallow tiny amounts of the petrochemicals involved each time you breathe or eat fire. This can dramatically increase the risk of chronic stomach Illness and cancers in the long term. Additionally: with fire eating, the high temperature change when you put the torch into your mouth will cause your teeth to rapidly expand and contract, cracking your enamel and loosening any fillings in your mouth over time. Breathing fire using corn starch is safer, but inhaling corn starch is not good for you either, and it's yucky.Top-level comment
Glassblowing. Silicosis is no joke.Top-level comment
Restoring old cars!Top-level comment
I agree! After my last project, my wife wanted to kill me.Reply
Reading all this just makes me believe that humans should be much more versatile than we are, rather than focusing solely on one hobby or craft or career. Too much exposure to anything will mess you upTop-level comment
After reading this I’ll stick to masterbating and video games as hobbies.Top-level comment
Sitting is the biggest killer.Reply
They're getting their heart rate up regularly. They'll be fine.Reply
Make sure your doing it in a well ventilated spaceReply
Aquariums - you can get some *nasty* shit from fish tanks. especially once you get into the fancy salt water corals that will gas your house in the middle of the night if you piss them off.Top-level comment
"fancy salt water corals that will gas your house in the middle of the night" As someone who is currently snorkelling their way through the tropics, I would love to know more! Do the coral spores release into the air or something?Reply
No. It’s sensationalism. And there’s nothing “silent” about any of it. You know there’s a problem pretty quickly. People have gotten sick from boiling live rock containing palythoa sp polyps. It aerosolizes the palytoxin and allows it to be inhaled. They’ve also gotten palytoxin in wounds and eyes/mouths by not wearing gloves and goggles. And then there’s bacterial infections like vibrio, but that’s a concern for anyone that spends time around tropical temperature saltwater ecosystems. The hobby can expose one to some nasty stuff that they wouldn’t really otherwise be exposed to, but basic precautions are sufficient.Reply
Huh? I’ve kept reef tanks for 25 years. Vibrio? Sure. Palytoxin? Legit concern. Neither of these things will “gas your house in the middle of the night” like it’s some sort of ticking time bomb. Just… take basic precautions and you won’t have an issue. Wear gloves and goggles. Don’t boil live rock indoors. Wash your hands. Basic stuff like that.Reply
My sister’s fiancé is getting into ultra running and idk, it seems extreme. He ran 100 miles on Saturday. Not sure the human body was made for that.Top-level comment
Cosmetology hair/make-up/nails all have many harmful harsh chemicals.Top-level comment
Golfing? The chemicals they use on the lawns are toxic as hellTop-level comment
Loading your own ammo.Top-level comment
Shooting in general. There's a lot of lead exposure, especially if you shoot indoorsReply
Shooting indoors can also cause brain injury from the confined concussive wave when a round goes off from what I read recently.Reply
Most modern ammo is jacketed. So, unless you're casting and loading your own cast lead loads, it's likely not a huge issue. Shooting at indoor ranges is the big issue, because even jacketed bullets can produce lead dust on impact.Reply
Community theatre can be a killer for your marriage … or so I’m told.Top-level comment
Conversely, I know tons of people who have met their significant other through community theater, myself included. In fact, I met my spouse on the same stage where my sister met her husband.Reply
Anything that involves powdered material but especially powdered kaolin clay, sanding of marble, or sanding of chemicals.Top-level comment
woodworking hehe, sounds peaceful until your lungs hve been collecting sawdust for 30 yrs and your back feels like it lost a fight with gravity..Top-level comment
Writing. I have the posture of a 110 yr old. And arthritis in my hands. And I sit still too long.Top-level comment
I read this as hobbits😭Top-level comment
Filthy hobbitesessReply
The real slow killerReply
Exposure to the herbicides used on golf courses has been found to increase the incidence of Parkinson’sTop-level comment
Cave diving. No thank you. Beyond the claustrophobic aspect, there is no open water above you in case you run out of air or something goes wrong.Top-level comment
Not really silentReply
Nobody can hear you scream thoughReply
It’s always dudes with a minimum of 3 kids and a loving family or a teenager 17-22yoe with a bright future ahead doing suicide cavingReply
Gunsmithing. I was a hobbyist and then full time firearms manufacturer and machine shop operator for a number of years and had no idea on the front end the number of hazardous factors that would come Into play. The variety of chemicals one comes in contact with and has difficulty mitigating is, in hindsight, disconcerting. Coolant and oils from the Cnc machines, fumes from the heat treating kiln, welding fumes, chemical bluing residues, various paints and spray on finishes settling on exposed skin, metal dust from grinding and finishing that always sneaks past the respirator, and the sheer amount of metal that ends up lodged under the skin, exposure to cosmoline and god knows what else that old rifles were stored in, wood finishing treatments for stocks, fiberglass for bedding, aggressive cleaning agents for both stripping and post test fire cleaning, a whole host of lubricants, silicones, etc, and probably 100 other forms of hazardous exposures not listed above. Add to that broken fingers from stuck bolts, contaminated lacerations from unfinished metal edges and a couple of fairly exciting out of battery explosions during experimental test fires and you have all the key ingredients for a hobby that will try to kill you in all sorts of both expected and unexpected ways. While I’m not 100 percent certain it was the cause, I now have a nasty case of Lymphoma to thank for my efforts. Started as a genuine labor of love, and it will likely physically haunt me for the rest of my life. It was a great 9 years but looking back with the wisdom now accumulated no way I would do it again like I did.Top-level comment
Doomscrolling. It starts as "just 10 minutes" and somehow steals hours, ruins your sleep, and slowly kills your attention span.Top-level comment
Marathon running. Marathon runners have the same cardiac risk as couch potatoes. The heart works so hard the turbulence from the blood destroys the blood vessels leading to coronary plaques.Top-level comment
Maybe if you run like 30 marathons a year? But 2-3 a year and the health benefits of training and staying in shape are far better for you than being a couch potato. Moderation folks.Reply
As a 20-something, I got the bright idea that I wanted to eventually run a marathon. My body wasted no time in letting me know that was never going to happen.Reply
Hat making. Mercury exposure will make you go mad.Top-level comment
What part of hat making exposes one to mercury? Truly curious.Reply
Pretty sure none, anymore. Back in the 19th century or so it was used to help separate fur from pelts to make felt coating for hats. That was prevalent enough to lead to something called "Mad Hatter syndrome" Since you can get felt pretty easily and cheaply nowadays to say nothing of synthetic replacements, I would guess that no longer should be a concern.Reply
My understanding is modern hat making does *not* use mercury anymore, but it was used a long time ago in the felting process. Mercury poisoning causes nerological issues and psychosis. Mercury in hat making in the inspiration behind "The Mad Hatter" character in Alice in Wonderland.Reply
anything to do with heavy machinery, quick way to destroy your body. Any Music studio based hobby (engineering, producing, etc). It won’t kill you but it won’t take long for noticable damage to the ears.Top-level comment
Used to know a guy who did a LOT of target shooting as well as casting his own bullets. He had a pretty severe case of lead poisoning.Top-level comment
Surfing and skin cancer is obvious . But ones that’s not spoken of much and iv known a lot of older surfers to die of heart attacks and have them while surfer. You sit in the cold water waiting for a wave then all of a sudden go from zero to 100 to catch a wave. My dad’s cardiologist said he sees it a lot in older surfers.Top-level comment
Motorcycles. Eventually your reflexes slow down.Top-level comment
Not having a hobby, especially in older age, leading to inactivity and social isolation, will probably result in more negative health consequences than 98% of these hobbies listed Wear proper PPE, don't be stupid, but don't fear-mongerTop-level comment
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After reading this, i am pretty sure drinking a couple beers alone, at-home, a few nights a week is one of the safest hobbies i could have.Reply
So it's common but not very common? I will be staying away from that devil sack mind you.Reply
How'd you guess my porn name.Reply
Try the violin insteadReply
Violin lung is even worse ffs!Reply
It ***is*** much harder to get in the lung, that's for sure.Reply
Great. Now I have bagpipe violin. Do you realize how bad it sounds here?Reply
My daughter was part of a local music festival for children. One of the participants was a piper who treated us to a 15 minute medley of traditional highland tunes in an old church. Fucking hell, it was intense. So loud. At first it was like “cool, bagpipes” then after 5 minutes it just started feeling relentless and too much fr my head to deal withReply
Yeah the most memorable and enjoyable performances i've seen that feature bagpipes were all outdoors. It's definitely an outdoor instrument..Reply
So just like children.Reply
Uilleann pipe supremacyReply
even if the bag was infected with something, the air's going one way - out of the player and into the bag, it's not a 2 way street, so how would the germs get into the player anyway?Reply
Is that some Scottish progressive band I’ve not heard of?Reply
I add kosher salt liberally for a nice crust.Reply
Is that anything like glitter lung that elementary school art teachers get? I hear it's tragic but fabulous to see.Reply
Nobody should. Simply too dangerous.Reply
Not me saying “that right there is the reason” to every thing in this thread so farReply
It only becomes a killer by being silentReply
it really is a silent killerReply
Now play 'Celebration' by Kool and the Gang.Reply
Maybe I'm off base but wet cloth sounds more dangerous than wet metal.Reply
But Twisted Metal? Now that sounds dangerous, like “a clown with his head perpetually on fire” kinds of dangerous.Reply
U are touting ur own bagpipe Edit:spellingReply
any woodwind or brass instrument? Cleaning my pipes tonight.Reply
Trumpet lung is when you squat down for a while then jump up whilst playing the loudest highest note you can and pass out on stage. Great head high for the rest of the gig.Reply
My first set comes in soon. They are bellows blown / I gotta learn the chicken wing.Reply
You mean SuitcasePipe (TM)Reply
Even nature is sick of bagpipes to the point where it developed something to kill bagpipe players. HahaReply
New fear unlocked I never would've guessed an instrument could do that😬Reply
it is really loud and annoying killerReply
Thought you meant everyone would distance themselves from you and you’d be alone forever if you took up bagpipesReply
Not silentReply
The only reason?Reply
Surely the horrendous dying-goose screech they call music is reason enough.Reply
Yeah, that's the reason I don't play pianoReply
Job tasks is a silent killer Hobbies don’tReply
LolReply
WHAT??Reply
Maybe in this modernReply
Are we assuming this is the slient killer. lolReply
OofReply
One of my local SCA groups does weapons practice in a facility that also hosts (at the same time) bagpipe lessons. Both activities are LOUD!Reply
It seems nit a silent killer at alllReply
Also, there is some minor risk of hearing damageReply
And then someone plays them at the funeral, continuing the deaths 🥲 lmaoReply
Huh. I had no idea. Today I learned.Reply
long term unregulated indoor plant cultivation with damp soil can trigger persistent respiratory discomfort for enthusiastsReply
At first I though: yeah, bagpipes indeed are silence killer. But after reading full comment... 🤣Reply
I got the tartan lung, PopsReply
Search it up. That's crazyyReply
This man bagpipies.Reply
I think vapingReply
What about Bagpipes from Baghdad?Reply
Don't tell my neighbor 🙉Reply
The bagpipes are great for about 30 seconds, then it just turns into awful noise.Reply
dang, who knew the bagpipes could get ya in the endReply
Do you suck air thru bagpipes? I thought it was just blowing... how does air get from the pipe to your lungs if you aren't sucking?Reply
A little bit of air can escape back into the lungs through the flap.Reply
Ironically one of the symptoms is a type of wheezing that makes you sound like a bagpipeReply
And here I thought the leading cause of death for bagpipes players was 'killed by neighbor'Reply
In the other hand, great cardio and core work. Definitely have to stay in top of the maintenance to keep mold and fungus at bayReply
bagpipes?! it's always the surprising things that get yaReply
That's right I think soReply
One of the loudest silent killers out there, according to the university of bagpipersReply
Not quite as bad but "saxophone lung" is a thing too!Reply
My friend is a paramedic and had to respond to a man fainting and this was why! Blew my mindReply
Same reason I stopped coal-mining for fun.Reply
Is this something specific to bag pipes only? Wouldn't this happen with other types of musical instruments using your lungs.Reply
I just got a tunisian bagpipe for nearly free. But it sat in a house for a very long time, and ...I'm afraid of the nasties.Reply
HAHHAHAH good one brotherReply
People that are prolific backpackers and inflate their sleeping pad with their lungs can have this issue as well.Reply
Holy Fuckballs!Reply
Honestly fair 😂 some hobbies come with a warning label that people forget to mentionReply
Oh really? That's why you don't pay the bagpipes? Good to *knnnooowwww.*Reply
> synthetic bags opposite - it didn't used to happen with before synthetic bags because traditional bags had to be seasoned killing spores. Modern bags don't get seasoned and people forget to open them and let them dry regularly.Reply
Modern bags absolutely get seasoned.Reply
It absolutely did happen before. Seasoning was made from lanolin, wax, and often honey, which is why fungus grew in bags so easily. Now, seasoning is made from other less attractive materials than fat and honey. It's less the bag and more the controlled, consistent, and targeted materials used in seasoning. There are articles from the 1950s on pipers' lung. I'm a bagpiper and I have a PhD in microbiology where I specialized in fungal lung infections. Also, season your synthetic bag, you heathen.Reply
Seasoning?Reply
Samee…I never go close to them at allReply
For out of the ground we were taken, for the dust we are... and to the dust we shall return.Reply
Take my upvote.Reply
You can ask for the plaster cast, but it won't be a DIY job for you. ...unless you have some lung-plucking tools. If you have those, you could make a fortune leasing them to mesothelioma victims. Misny will make someone pay, but he'll also pay you.Reply
[Surprisingly, swimming on it is relatively safe depending on how deep you are swimming.]([link removed] Getting to said radiated pool though is the deadlier part.Reply
I became seriously allergic to cedar after debarking a red cedar log in my garage using a chisel and various sanders. No ventilation - it was the middle of the winter and I didn’t really think about how much dust I was generating (and breathing) I don’t recall feeling sick at the time. It took me a while to catch on to the fact that every time I went to Home Depot and hung out by the cedar planks, I would get dizzy and short of breath. Or if I would handle the wood I would get red rashes on my face, especially around my eyes. So, now I have to wear a mask and gloves if I have to deal with it. My house came with a cedar lined dry sauna that I can no longer use. I had no idea that it was so potent, but I guess that fragrance is also what deters insects.Reply
I mean, living is ultimately a killer. Except for me, I plan to live forever.Reply
This is the way. I can't stand power tools anyway.Reply
It took a relative but he was a smoker still to die at 63 of complications of respiratory diseases is pretty crap.Reply
...yikes.Reply
The glittering lungs? Yeah she and her Dr discovered that when she was getting a back X-ray due to a wrecked back from 40 years of improper lifting of bags of powdered ceramic materials that were entirely too heavy for her. It's been 15 years since I was her student but I still admire the hell out of her for so many reasons. She's more or less family to me.Reply
Also, poisons and venoms are natural. So are avalanches and tigers.Reply
I'm taking a ceramics class right now, and I mask indoors if I'm going to be somewhere for a long time (a lot of my friends are immunocompromised). It made for a weird moment when they explained how important it is to clean wet clay from surfaces, to prevent as much dust as possible, because the dust can damage your lungs. I was the only person wearing a mask.Reply
My roommate is a contractor, and it's not that he thinks that he's above safety precautions or that they don't exist for a reason, he just starts doing things and then by the time he realizes he's not wearing a respirator or goggles or something, he's about done. I get on him all the time for that shit. Blame it on ADHD and self-employment.Reply
Fair. But the construction (and many other field operations) fields has historically (and bizzarely) treated safety requirements with disdain and contempt. Just the amount of carrot and stick mgmt has to do to get workers to comply with safety protocols. I had a buddy who was an engineering manager for a mining company and he said same thing — workers doing whatever they could yo get away with not following safety regs. Not realizing those are written in blood.Reply
That’s what I was gonna say too. They’re just trying to get the work done and going back and forth from where they’re fitting and measuring to where they’re actually cutting and they just do it. Sometimes because they forget and sometimes because it starts with “oh but this one’s just a quick cut”. I’ve become the opposite when doing that kind of work where I will be working on something, haven’t done cutting or sanding for like an hour and then realize I still have my mask and glasses on.Reply
I do this also and have ADHD as well. That's nice of you to get on your friend. I'm a little older now so things are a bit better. I do wish I would I would have had someone doing that to me. But I probably would have been too dumb at that age to do anyways. Been a carpenter for twenty years have an autoimmune disorder of the throat..Drs say good allergies and genetics but I still think the sawdust might have some to do with it.Reply
He's almost 50 (god are we that old??) and is also better now. Not great, but better lolReply
This exactly bc at this point, what *can* you do?Reply
Honestly. Just live your life happily and stress free. Yeah, some of the things posted are legit health concerns regarding toxicity or immediate danger. But as long as your hobby doesn't cause you unneeded stress. I think it'll be fine. Since unmanaged stress is a huge health concern.Reply
probably the loudest one of allReply
I’m a manager and most of my guys are older than me. I took the asbestos trainings and bought the gear. One of them used to smoke so it’s even worse if he breaths it in. Scary shitReply
Good lord I just looked this up and saw it's also known as "Potter's rot". Lovely.Reply
> deaf dumb and blind as long as I sure can play a mean pinballReply
I re-did a bathroom in the winter. I wet saw all the tiles in the driveway and definitely eye balled a couple extra cuts each time I was out there. The $$ waste was worth it as my hands were frozen after 5 mins of cutsReply
Next one you do get a saw shack. It's a tarped enclosure for your wet saw. I am doing a shower right now and the saw is 3 feet from the shower. With tile I work to basically the 32nd (it has to really just be in the middle). So trying to cut too far ahead at least on the long walls can be too far off for me. Having the saw a couple feet away saves so much time.Reply
Her sculptures are so amazing and beautifulReply
They really areReply
Well, someone can anyway.Reply
How much does doing the work outside help?Reply
A little bit, but you’re still breathing the dust in as you’re working it. Always wear a mask when you are creating dust.Reply
The first thing I noticed after installing my air filtration unit was how little fine dust was left all over my shop. Before that you could just imagine how many tiny particles were floating around my shop after working even with dust collection. I never thought twice about removing my respirator when I was done working but stayed in the shop. Just thinking about how much of that shit I was breathing in.Reply
I refuse to believe that sawdust can get into my lungs considering 100% of it seems to wind up in my eyes.Reply
Also a time when Radon awareness wasn't a thing.Reply
My dad smokes heavily (since adolecence) and is a carpenter (never seen him wear a mask) who lives in Indiana, one of the worst air quality states in the US, and doesn't have lung cancers. Which is shocking, really. He's had some pretty bad spine and gastric problems though.Reply
Hand tools create less dust, yes. Not no dust. If the angle of the sun is just right it illuminates the dust and you can still see how much it creates. I would still wear a n95 mask or respirator. Maybe not for planing but for using rasps or saws.Reply
Yep, I did an art course in highschool, and our teacher would tell us about the effects so many chemicals in painting materials had on the mind and general health of many famous artists.Reply
Plus bear claws are sharp and when they get stuck in your lungs... Well, that's just a bad day.Reply
> stone carving class > hammered home I see what you did there.Reply
Is an n95 sufficient for asbestos? I'm pretty sure our contractors all wear P100s.Reply
Depends on the type of tile and the type of cut. If all I need to do is score and apply pressure there's really no dust. If I need a saw or grinder it needs to be wet and I should be wearing a mask.Reply
Glad someone said it because I was about to lolReply
That’s why he’s a contractorReply
Don't have to come back for warranty claims if I'm dead!Reply
You should wear a respirator if you're using any power woodworking equipment. I have a half face mask respirator with p100 filters that I leave hanging on the entrance to my shop. Wear it 100 percent of the time I'm working in there. No reason not to.Reply
And if you have a beard, I encourage you to use the Singh Thattha technique. It was the only way I could get a proper seal. 3M makes the most common half-face respirator and there are a dozen filters you can put on it, but I found the GVS Eclipse to be far more comfortable so I use it for particulates when woodworking and the like, and the 3M for VOCs or as a filter for a guest if they're in there helping me out. Also, don't forget to clean your mask regularly, especially on the inside where you're breathing and fogging it up in there. I don't even put it on until I blast the inside with my electric air duster to make sure any dust that might have settled in it is dispersed.Reply
> Singh Thattha technique Holy shit. I had never heard of that. I had lung damage from covid, and have since grown a beard (unrelated). I've been avoiding woodworking and other hobbies because the beard makes it impossible to use a mask, and no mask is unthinkable now. That looks like a easy way to give it another shot without dropping 1k+ on a powered respirator.Reply
This. I work in custom framing and cut shit all day, even with a dust collector hooked into my machine directly I’m wearing a mask.Reply
I see what you did there with that phrasing. Well played.Reply
Yup. Was gonna chime in, but you’ve got it covered.Reply
TIL. I hadn't realized that macrophages were the cells that were injured by the asbestos fibers, nor the role that ongoing inflammation plays. Thanks for the insight. Always good to learn more details about a subject.Reply
sad because there's something about the smell of woodworking that's an express trip back to my childhood Too bad that smell is inhaling woodReply
Walnut too. That's what harmed my grandpa's lungsReply
My wood shop teacher in high school used to brush his teeth after every class because of the wood dust. I have no idea if this really benefited him but he sure kept up with it.Reply
Everything is, buddy. Smoke 'em if you got 'em.Reply
FINE. I will go get myself a good quality mask for my random construction and art projects! You win! (but seriously, I'm glad I'm reading this thread, because it's giving me impetus to not be lazy and whiny about it)Reply
Cyanide and arsenic are also naturalReply
Same with my uncle. Never smoked or drank. Died from throat and neck cancer. Never wore a mask. Miss him. He could build anything.Reply
Use a downdraft table when sanding and mask up. Carving is a nonissue.Reply
Really?Reply
My wife has a fine arts degree specialized in sculpture. She only was really into actual stone carving for a little while with brief flights of fancy over the years. She was more into fiber arts sorts of things and now in her 50's, she's gotten into quilting. She's also extremely handy and when we moved to a farm 4 years ago, she has been right there with me gardening, building fence, etc. Her wrists, elbows, shoulders, and hands are all a wreck. She got a steroid shot last week and it seemed to help some, but she "runs out of elbow" before we get tired or have put in a full day on a project. But hey, she doesn't seem to have any breathing issues, so there is that!Reply
I remember watching a joke reel with a guy teaching basic hand carving and band aids/bandages started appearing all over his hands until they were completely covered by the end.Reply
Same! My grandpa died of lung cancer and was a carpenter. He did live to 90.Reply
me reading this while at the pottery studio 😳😨Reply
I don’t think having anything hammered at your head is a good thing , probably why it’s a silent killer . Well unless your hammering something metal into someone’s head , then that’s a loud killerReply
My uncle died of lung cancer. He did smoke, but also did a lot of work with cut/leaded/stained glass making those fancy lampshades you used to see. Also working with those old school markers, xylene I think.Reply
Walnut. Pretty but toxic.Reply
The carcinogenic effects from asbestos is the same as chronic lip biting, chronic acid reflux or anything else that causes cells to have to be regrown faster than normal.Reply
Yeah, but it's a lot easier to stop biting your lip or get your acid-reflux under control than it is to remove microscopic needles (that break down lengthwise into even smaller needles) out of your lungs. Once it's in there it's just in there.Reply
The worst thing guitar has done to me luckily is hurt my hearing. Thats more on the drummers tho tbhReply
Pardon?Reply
Two of the people I know of that died from COVID were contractors and they were in good shape for their age.Reply
seriously! As I'm reading through these I'm like damn, everything gonna take ya outReply
This is literally the whole point of this post? But most of these aren't even common hobbies. People reading, knitting, going for runs, hiking doing yoga and most other fitness hobbies aren't suffering from a silent killer lol. Only in really extreme cases can those be dangerous but that's not silent. Probably the most popular silent killer is gaming because of the number of people that can just sit at home alone for hours not moving or interacting with people and that will do a number on you over years for your mental and physical health if you don't have other hobbies.Reply
Knitting is actually more dangerous to those around the knitter. Because if you try to talk while I'm counting stitches, I might stab you with my needles.Reply
Life is a silent killer. Don’t want to die? Don’t be born. Now go do whatever you want with your limited time in your fragile meat sack that’s sitting on a rock floating 500mph precariously around a fireball.Reply
Just another day on Reddit...Reply
lol I think this should be cross posted on the millennial sub as we’re all picking up hobbies during our midlife crisesReply
this is exactly what I was thinking. The real question is what can we do that won'tReply
Seriously. Knitting? Fuck! You can't do anything.Reply
Bagpipes were never silentReply
We dog groomers have what’s called “groomers lung” lol. Never knew about bagpipe lung!Reply
The mold kills the player, but the sound kills everyone else in a three-mile radius.Reply
You just made me lose my lifelong regret of not taking up bagpipes when I had the chance. No way I would be cleaning them!Reply
I know someone who died from this, from playing the tuba.Reply
Technically everything is terminal if you have it long enough.Reply
Not nearly the same severity, but I remember being told by a professional clarinet player that they have to get their teeth worked on because the way you bite the reed messes with em.Reply
I just vent the fine exhaust outside under the garage door. It's scary how fine it is. After the chip separator, the fine dust barely leaves a stain on the driveway.Reply
You never saw anything?Reply
Cadmium is also natural. It does interesting things to bodies.Reply
I had a coworker who use to say "it's good for you because it's natural." I once pointed out, "So is cobra venom."Reply
Cyanide is organic!Reply
This is terrifyingReply
Surprisingly most people who die of lunch cancer weren't of smoking but I've exposure to things just like thatReply
He never smoked a day in his life, but the sawdust was his cigarette.Reply
The good part is that life is self reproducing and dust damage isn't in the germ line. So on a long scale it will only hurt him and nobody else.Reply
I've done some ice climbing. I needed something to do in the winter. Ice climbers are the people that other climbers call "crazy" and we kind of deserve it.Reply
So many people: "We must reduce the microplastics in our environment". So many other people: "Ohh! Look at my new plastics printer!". Yep 3d printing gives you a lot of cool stuff, but all that plastic... Yuck.Reply
It doesn't need a whole room to itself. Even just a dedicated corner of a garage or crafting space would do. Just make sure it's well-ventilated. Even just an enclosure with an activated carbon filter will dramatically reduce risk.Reply
I have had 3 former partners die from falls over the 20 years since I startedReply
Oh good, I thought I was the only one. My 3D resin printer and grow tent have been sitting in storage for over a year now. I have young kids so I don't want to start until my ventilation system is fool-proof.Reply
i was gonna get one on black friday but after looking into resins and all the washing and whatnot I said forget itReply
\+1 for canoeing. Pretty much any hobby involving water is more dangerous than people like to admit.Reply
I'd argue that most (not all) paddling incidents stem from inexperienced paddlers getting themselves into situations that any one with experience would tell them are beyond their skill level, and from non-swimmers paddling without adequate safety precautions.Reply
I just set up a whole grow tent with ventilation. Look up vivosun on AmazonReply
How do you deal with the temp outside if it’s too hot or coldReply
Fermentation belt is what I use wrapped around my vat works in my unheated garage in the winterReply
Why buy itReply
Yeah, my husband's resin printers were exiled to our shed, and he has a face mask and specific clothes for them. Thank goodness he has a lab background and knows safety procedures, otherwise they would be very expensive paperweights. He vastly prefers working with his FPM printers, even though the quality is night and day.Reply
I don't remember where I saw the list, but it was either per hour of activity or per outing, not over the total span of time someone was involved in the sport. It didn't include specialty stuff like alpine climbing, just outdoor sport and trad climbing. The point of the list was to give people a rough idea of how risky a particular outdoor sport activity was, which I think is useful, even if it's difficult to be extremely precise about it.Reply
Same with hang glider pilots!Reply
I've heard the same phrase applied to motorcycling. I've seen it to be true. That guy ripping down the freeway at 150 is 22 years old. The guy going the speed limit in hi-vis is 80.Reply
My boss said him and his friends used to do that. Then he said some of them would be alive now...Reply
If there are bold climbers but no old bold climbers, I suspect there’re no bolder older boulder climbers. However, one might anticipate the older climber to embolden others who are perhaps old but not that old as well as young but not that boldReply
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They're great until someone forgets to untie one properly and your rope gets stuck. Yes, I know there are ways of trying them to prevent that, but I've seen some heroic ineptitude. They are usually a good idea. I have met someone who says he saw with his own eyes, someone in the Adirondacks literally rappell off the end of his own rope. I've seen so many people do so many stupid things rappelling. Do some people just space out when they're sliding down a rope?Reply
> They're great until someone forgets to untie one properly and your rope gets stuck. While true, I think if someone is being careless enough to untie one before pulling the rope, they're probably more likely to be someone who will careless while rapping and could be saved by a stopper knot. And of course getting your rope stuck is unlikely to lead to an accident, unless someone tries to heroically rescue the rope instead of just calling for help.Reply
How exactly does one call for help? Who is coming to help us when we're on a remote cliff face in the Canadian Rockies? If that rope gets stuck when you try to unthread it after rappelling because there is a knot in the end, someone has to climb back up to the anchor and get it.Reply
A satellite communicator/beacon is about the same price as a new Grigri and a nice locking belay biner, assuming it's not just built into your newer smart watch or phone. What's your contingency plan for a situation such as somebody letting the rope slip through your anchor because there wasn't a stopper knot in it or any other of the other numerous, if unlikely events that can leave you stranded? I'm curious if you've found reports of deaths directly caused by stopper knots because some people seem *obsessed* with arguing against them. It's the "seatbelts can trap you in a car on fire so I don't wear them" thing.Reply
Its obviously not possible to consult with the vast majority of those who have rapped off the end of their rope, but I would hazard a guess that in most cases, it is due to the climber underestimating how much stretch is in the rope when you get towards the end, losing control for a brief second while fixing a snag, and then having the rope spring back and shoot through their device.Reply
home 3d printing is just creating plastic tat for the landfill.Reply
I've used my printer to restore dozens of things that were otherwise destined for the landfill...Reply
and for every constructive thing someone does, the market sellers have printed 46 dragons, 76 Pokémon knockoffs and 427 axolotl. It's a losing battle, I'm afraid. They can be useful, but are most often not.Reply
Irrelevant that other people make waste if I use my printer to prevent waste.Reply
Isn’t it just the same for every big industry? You can repair and cautiously use your clothes all your life, but single day of operation of, let’s say, Shein would nullify it easily. But this doesn’t mean what clothing industry is inherently bad or what we need to shame all people who wear clothesReply
You say you want to improve society somewhat, yet you still participate in it...Reply
Isn’t that for nearly everything though? Could make and argument that sure, electricity is helpful for some people, but look at the environmental impact of creating it…not to mention that some people use electricity to power computers they use to hack bank accounts and commit fraud. And for every constructive thing someone does, there are others that use it for nefarious reasons I’m afraid. Electricity can be useful, but is most often not.Reply
I wouldn't classify sellers as home 3d printing, they're running a business. Every business produces waste. True home 3d printing is arguably a net positive for the majority of users. If you have a printer and know how to use it, you're probably the type of person that likes to tinker and thus are much more likely to use it to fix things that break around your house rather than landfill them immediately. Even if I also print stupid waste things, still a large net positive.Reply
That won’t really work you need to vent to outside. Consumer grade carbon filters don’t do much.Reply
Yeah forgot to mention that part. Your exhaust needs to feed into 4” duct ala what conventional clothes dryer machines use. You can get a y-splitter with backflow valve so that you can piggyback on existing outbound port if feasible, otherwise you’ll need to figure something else out.Reply
Wood dust is known to the state of California to cause cancerReply
Op said silent and this hobby is loud!Reply
My dad was just putting in insulation in a basement without a mask the other day :| He was like "wow i shouldn't have been doing that.. lol i have a cough now I'm gonna go home and have a beer" He owns respirators. I don't know why he thought that was a good idea lolReply
Jokes on you i can't afford Cedar in this economyReply
> masks should be used Also, don't wear ZR masks regardless of how much advertising they pay for. There is a very good reason they don't have any certifications. Youtuber Xyla Foxlin now has a cedar allergy thanks to those masks not providing any protection.Reply
Cocobolo tried to do me in. I was working without a mask. The wood smells fantastic, sweet and flowery. But a few days later I developed a raspy hollow cough. Allergy or sensitivity? No clue, but it felt like I had pneumonia or pleurisy for a couple of weeks. I eventually felt better, but this isn't a mistake that I will make again. Of course after its too late, I do my reading and many different woods can cause problems. Mask up people. Trust me on this one.Reply
Came here for this yeah. I have known a few people who died of brain cancer, and the biggest link they all shared was wood working/contracting. Now I mask up when sanding or cutting, and if I’m doing a lot of table saw work the chainsaw helmet goes on with face shield. I work with a lot of roughsawn lumber so that’s damn near every time I go into the shopReply
I regret not taking better precautions when I started working. I remember working extensively with mahogany to the point my hands were purple at days end from the oils in the wood. You could actually taste it as it got into your skin.Reply
The Woodworking is Bullshit podcast did an episode on wood dust that actually reassured me significantly about it. Apparently prolonged dust exposure can like double or triple some specific cancer risks, but the types of cancer it's associated with are so vanishingly rare that the risk is still very very low even if you're huffing down sawdust all day. The more realistic possibility seems to be developing allergies/sensitivities to specific wood species. I'm still pretty anal about dust collection and PPE, but I no longer feel quite as guilty if I turn on the saw for one cut without putting on my PAPRReply
Ha. George RR Martin used a version of this in one of his books. He just replaced climbers with sellswords. I always wondered if it was lifted from somewhere.Reply
They say this one about mushrooms too. 'There are bold mushroom hunters, and there are old mushroom hunters, but there is a reason you never find Old, Bold Mushroom hunters'Reply
I have heard this quote in relation to horseback riding… “There are old cowboys and there are bold cowboys, but there are no old, bold cowboys.” I ride and people think I’m crazy but you couldn’t pay me to go rock climbing hahaReply
3m PAPR 600. The 300 doesn’t filter vapors.Reply
What do you want to make with it?Reply
I have mine in a closet with a window. It's in an enclosure with a 4 part filtration system, with the hose leading out the window. I have additional filters in the room with the closet and I wear one of those serious house painting filters that can be replaced masks when I work on it. If I didn't own my own home that would be impossible.Reply
I placed my 3d printer in a grow tent and attached a ventilation to it that sucks the air out of the window while printing. During the prying and washing process I wear a respirator and feel pretty safeReply
Processing more than a couple boards of cedar or redwood for me = mask up, and we have a dust collection system. When I forget, I spend the evening feeling like I'm coming down with a head coldReply
At first thought, this might seem like such a surprise..but thinking about it, yes, carpentry and wood working qualify.Reply
When Carl Thompson carved "The Rainbow Bass" for Less Claypool, the huge amount of wood-carving dust he got in his lungs almost killed Carl.Reply
Not me realising i carved cedar 2 years before developing a cedar pollen allergy...Reply
When I was a kid used to do hobbies with MDF and bolsa wood under our house in a workshop about 7x4 meters with little ventilation, no mask, now any exposure I end up with cold and flu symptoms for 3 or 4 daysReply
Is an N95 typically enough to handle this?Reply
I do woodworking on the side and discovered that I’m allergic to cottonwood which is apparently in some plywood. I got sick as fuuuuck for 24 hours three times before I put it together. Now I wear the cartridge filter masks and I’m cool. But yeah protect your respiratory health!Reply
Just do fractal wood burning. You won’t live long enough to worry about cancer.Reply
but are there cold, bold, fold climbers?Reply
i knew a guy from high school that snorted wood shavings in DT class and he ended up getting a tumour in his nose a few years later. not sure if it was related but probably wasReply
Reading this as a welderReply
Huh, I've cut up a lot of cedar at my house with a chainsaw or sawzall and it always stinks. Oh wellReply
Saw dust is a class 1 carcinogenReply
Xyla Foxlin (youtube maker/pilot/rocketry nerd) gave herself a serious cedar allergy from a canoe build when the mask she was wearing turned out to be a low quality knockoff.Reply
I want to share this in case it helps anyone. Many years ago I worked as a support teacher in a wood working classroom. We didn't wear masks at all. I worked in there for a year, one class period a day. Over the course of that year I got bronchitis 3 times and one of those turned into pneumonia. My doctor told me I was pre asthmatic. I don't have asthma and never did, so this was shocking. I had patch testing done and found out I have a colophony allergy (tree sap). We figured my illnesses were the result of the pine dust I was breathing in. If anyone is concerned about this, please get allergy testing for colophony allergy. It has many names, and is unfortunately used as an ingredient in many self care products and adhesives. I've also been allergic to shoe glue, and sometimes react badly to adhesives on my skin. It sucks, I have to be very careful trying new products.Reply
Tile and granite workers are even worse. Almost NONE of them wear PPE. Their lungs are screwed.Reply
My father is a woodworker, he's had multiple accidents and has lost multiple fingers on both hands.Reply
Seems to be a link to MS as well, probably all the chemicals used. Same with gardering.Reply
Purpleheart is another wood that has wood dust that is toxic and an allergen. Learned that one the hard way. Now I double up and use a respirator plus a full flip-down face mask.Reply
I knew this would be here somewhere but was hoping I'd have to scroll a lot further down. I do all my woodworking in a barely-ventilated basement. I've got dust collection on all my machines, an overhead air filter, and will pop on a mask whenever doing an excessive amount of sanding... But I'm definitely one of those "it's just one quick cut" kinda people. It was nice knowing you all o7Reply
I always put on a full face P-100 filter when i'm kicking up a lot of sawdust in my shop. (And have an exhauster running in the window). But man, I won't even work with cedar anymore unless I absolutely have to because of the skin irritation. Shit sucks...Reply
My dad died last year from pneumonia, but he only had about 1/4 of proper lung capacity or something like that because over his life he'd spent his youth working with horses (so the dust), a chunk of the middle of his life doing woodworking as a hobby without a respirator (so sawdust) and then in his like 60's decided to do rennovations on a property he was living on where he was ripping out and disposing of asbestos saying "Eh, it'll take 20 years to kill me anyway" Turned out it was more like 15ishReply
[Obligatory Bill Pentz dust collection link]([link removed]Reply
I live on a street where they have been doing a complete overhaul since last year. The amount of dust is insane. None of the workers are wearing a mask. All day everyday.Reply
I made a few harmonica combs out of purpleheart before i looked up its properties... Oops, toxic dust lol they look great though!Reply
climbing was one of the first thing I thought ofReply
And not using ear protection while using table saws, skil saws, routers, etc. will wreak havoc on your hearing. Obviously not a “silent killer” situation but still.Reply
My dad worked in a saw mill for over 30 years and he lost sense of smell and taste from breathing in all that saw dust. I swear even his farts still smell like the mill ponds lmaoReply
This extends to paper as well. Printing, bookbinding. It's all ink, glue and wood dust.Reply
Mesquite is another one. Beautiful wood. Hell on the lungs.Reply
Holy cow my grandpa died of lung cancer. He was a woodworker.Reply
We were lucky enough to have a pack of N95s at home during the pandemic because of my husband’s woodworking hobby.Reply
and hard woods are known carcinogensReply
Alain robert?! Freeclimber dessutom!Reply
My uncle was a carpenter and died of sinus cancerReply
I mean, even with all the best protection, if you use machinery, you can also destroy your hearing pretty quickly, my friend used to do a ton of woodwork and they lost a rather significant percentage of hearing even though they systematically wore ear plugs under ear cupsReply
Looked up the masks and I still wonder why some people don't use them, the things look awesome as hellReply
Great, I am literally down an entomolgy rabbit hole and about to pull the trigger on some resin. Guess Im going to have to learn how to make frames.Reply
Yeah. I had no idea why my respiratory system was on fire after getting a printer and setting it up in a hot garage (like a dumbass). I’d also get dizziness and headaches. I stopped using it and put it by the curb with all of my jugs of resin. Wasn’t worth itReply
Use a brushless extractor there are many availableReply
I pause and ask if stopper knots are appropriate case-by-case. In a long rappel where distance may not be certain, they are a life-saver. In rappels where there are trees and boulders, the stopper knots can get stuck, as happened to me one day when I was rappelling in the jungle with a group of people below me. Seeing the vines and trees and knowing that the rope easily covered the distance, I did not tie a stopper knot, but some bystander watched and decided that I needed one, so they grabbed my rope ON THE FUCKING GROUND and tied a stopped knot that got snagged in a tree.Reply
Look into getting a P100 respirator. They work great and have served me very well in the studio.Reply
That's way too close to what we have to do for asbestos abatement for comfort.Reply
And hair. It's like accidental dry shampoo.Reply
Do you vent it to the outside or just into the room? Is the charcoal filter enough to do that safely?Reply
I can second this from personal experience. All the climbers I know can scale outdoor walls like mountain goats, but if anything did go wrong we're in the middle of a quarry only accessible through a remote footpath and about an hour away from the nearest hospital.Reply
How many birds are we talkingReply
It has been documented in people who had a single bird as a pet, but it probably requires a long period of exposure in that case. It's more typical in people who keep a whole cote of pigeons.Reply
Not so much about the numbers, but about how you keep them and much time you spend in the shed.Reply
My mom had two parrots, one of which was a cockatoo. Cockatoos create a lot of feather dust; more than her other parrot. She kept the cockatoo in her bedroom because the other parrot was jealous. She got a cough that would not go away. They even did a lung biopsy to check for cancer. Biopsy was negative. She eventually ended up septic, on a ventilator, and almost died. It was all a reaction to the feather dust exposure over several years. Cockatoo got a new home after that.Reply
Don't let the California Raisins catch wind of what you're doing. They'll fuck you up.Reply
Oh, they'll hear about it...through the grapevine!Reply
Sun Made. Sun Un-Made.Reply
Eh it's super easy to mitigate. I have an enclosure around mine with ducting and a $20 extractor fan propped outside my garage that runs 24/7. Works great. And I wear a respirator with organic vapor cartridges anytime I'm working with it. Basically $100 and the problem goes away.Reply
Was gonna say. I am wearing a full gas mask, problem solved!Reply
Ehhh. The mask protects you from fumes *while you're wearing the mask*. If you don't have a way to get the fumes out of your house, you're just gonna breathe them in at a lower but not-zero concentration. Breathing any amount of resin fumes is bad if you're doing it every single moment you're in the house.Reply
I'm aware, I do epoxy over specimen I prepare, in a well ventilated garage with open door. Just while you are working you also need a mask.Reply
I bought a $40 military gas mask from a surplus store and use VOC screw in canisters I buy off amazon.Reply
And you're safer than most. There are some people out there posting photos of their setup and you see their resin printer is in their bedroom. There are very simple and basic ways to make the normally small risk so insignificant it's not a problem, and there are also ways to turn that same small risk into a big problem. Doing it in a ventilated space with a filter suitable for the VOCs? You're golden, it's not going to be a problem. Print 24/7 in your bedroom six feet from your bed? That's asking for trouble. The resin didn't change, the people using it did.Reply
How long is eventually? I make small LARP props out of two-part resin every couple of months or so. That feels like it's not on the same level as people regularly 3D printing resin or making stuff on a daily basis for their etsy.Reply
It is all forms of resin. They all use acrylate monomer chains which is the allergy. With exposure based allergies it depends on a lot of factors like your immune response, precautions taken, how the resin cures, and what exactly is being off gased to name a few. Where a respirator with organic volatile compound (OVA) filters, gloves, and work in a well ventilated area. Do not do it in your bedroom. People love to argue on forums that certain resins are safe. They are not. My grandma smoked cigarettes from 13 to her early 80s. It does a not mean smoking is safe or risk free.Reply
It’s not predictable. There are people who’ve been making resin stuff for years without issues. Others have developed a severe allergy after just a few months. The most important factor is taking proper exposure precautions, like having a well ventilated workspace and wearing gloves. The type of resin matters too. Epoxy is less toxic. If you’re working with polyurethane you need to be wearing a respirator if you’re near it while it cures, and it needs to cure in a garage or workshop.Reply
I could be wrong but I belive it is all resins and the allergy is usually called an acrylate allergy which is the same as uv gel nail polish. Acrylate monomers are a very common plastic chainReply
That’s correct, I couldn’t remember the name but I knew the one that’s in gel nail polish is called HemaReply
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So what is actually in the fumes? Not saying it’s safe, just curious.Reply
For 3D printing a big thing are compounds called ACMOs. They are really, really good at making resin cure fast, but they are naaasty. There are resins that don’t have them which are safer from a respiratory standpoint, but still toxic, and they are slower to print and way more expensive.Reply
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I remember back in high school they had us making some keyrings and stuff in tech class teaching us to work with acrylic and the glue they had us using they were like "Ok so you can't use this stuff unless you're wearing gloves and under the extraction hood because they consider it way too carcinogenic for the school to be ok with"Reply
Yea this is the first thing I thought of, people crafting/fixing surfboardsReply
I was gonna comment the EXACT same thing. Spot on!Reply
Don't be shaming the raisin crafting community like that bro.Reply
You could say that safety really res**i**nates with the community.Reply
What?Reply
Chronic tinnitus 😞Reply
Damn you. That's brilliant and horrible at the same timeReply
"Degloving". What a quaint word. Let me just google it...Reply
Badum-tishReply
I have a resin 3D printer. It's awesome, but yeah, that stuff is nasty. It's in my garage (so I can really only use it in summer), inside a grow tent. I have vents in the garage to pull out any potential fumes. When I'm in there with the printer, I keep the door open and wear a respirator. The long term studies on resin and health effects is still a bit in the air (even though logically speaking, yeah that shit in your lungs long term in probably bad), but I sure as hell am not taking the chance with it. I haven't touched the printer in 3 years because of how many hoops there were to go through. But again, I was not going to take the risk.Reply
Farmer's lung in general. You can also get it from permanent exposure to dust from pig feed (ground grains in general), or hay.Reply
Ironically the paranoia about safety is crazy in the resin community. Ofc you should take appropriate safety measures, but no you probably don’t need a hazmat suit and a $600 respirator to make one pendant out of UV resin 😭Reply
Its crazy because they make it seem like you're going to get hypercancer if you're in the room without a respirator. What I never, ever hear these people say is that the goal of the PPE is to help prevent developing an allergy to UV resin. That's the real fear - that prolonged exposure increases your chances of breaking out in hives near the stuff... effectively ending your participation in the hobby. And then, most of the horror stories are from people using resin for large projects, sometimes outdoors. Very different stuff from what most of us are buying on Amazon and in a different league altogether from 3d printers. There should be other concerns - like how resin is pretty much impossible to get out of porous surfaces, how you should consider eye protection because that stuff is caustic to mucous membranes. But nope, you need a fume hood and a hazmat suit or else your skeletons gonna jump out of your body while you wash and cure a miniature you downloaded from the internet.Reply
My cocaine hobby is also messing with my respiratory system unfortunately.Reply
This is why experienced resin artists always emphasize ventilation before techniques or materials.Reply
Does your Chickens also wear masks?Reply
> Everything that isn't fresh air can wreck your lungs, it seems. Its all about exposure length for a lot of these. I wish I was an expert since this honestly seems like a fascinating area. But amount of exposure is the key thing you have to look at whenever you read about things that can harm you. Often for experiments they will drastically increase the dose to push toward a very obvious and clear outcome since a lot of these things isn't a "Do X and get Y" and instead "Do X and have an increased chance of Y". That is why you see a lot of these diseases tied to a job or career because it takes 40 hours a week of exposure over decades to see a clear marked increase in disease risk.Reply
As someone who worked as a landscaper for 2 years in his early 20's... this. Holy shit, like I can hear for the most part and don't get the ringing very often... until I go out with friends. If the background noise is at like any level above 75 decibels, I can barely hear anyoneReply
Yes. I had one conure & he knocked off so much dust that I was constantly cleaning the air purifier in the room & wiping down surfaces. Never got bird lung or sick of any kind, though.Reply
You need glassesReply
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1. NOT SERVICE RELATEDReply
Lona?Reply
It’s so loud sometimes, lolReply
"Look at this, detective. Not only did she die from the fumes, but her body was them completely covered in a vast amount of resin she was trying to use for her statue." "What was her name?" "Amber"Reply
Why can’t you just do it outside? Stuff gets in the resin?Reply
3D-printable resin is cured by UV light, so any ambient sunlight will mess with your prints. Even regular indoor lights can potentially cause dark curing without UV-blocking film/filter.Reply
Ah got it, got it.Reply
Good ventilation seems optional until you find out why it really isn'tReply
That fume headache hits different when you realize it’s basically your lungs filing a noise complaint.Reply
The resinates with me.Reply
I misread it as raisin crafting and wondered what’s so dangerous about raisins ?Reply
Sooo happy you mentioned this! Same!!Reply
I built [an enclosure]([link removed] for mine, and it does cut down on the stink quite a lot. But even after all that, I still don't use it because resin printing is such a messy pain in the ass when compared to filament printing.Reply
This is me talking from a wargaming slant here, but they assume everyone is also American or also lives in a country where you've got tons of space just lying around in your house to put said 3d printer. So much snark in the "Just get a 3d printer bro!" comments when, due to the quite valid health concerns there is not exactly an optimum place to put it in a lot of UK houses.Reply
21st century version of haberdashers!Reply
Not exactly the same, but I just realized that I seriously need to get some masks for when I do the dirt swap in my snakes enclosure lolReply
for a while I did software work at various factories. They had me go one day to this place where the machine I needed to interface with they referred to as bubble something. Pretty sure it was silica. Tiny tiny silica? they turned it on, and the air filled with dust, my laptop near instantly felt weirdly slippery. they were going to have me work all day in there without a mask, even eat my lunch in there (with it sitting in the dust).Reply
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-8. **YEAH!**Reply
hahaha same 😂Reply
That trueReply
I came really close to getting a resin printer with no real knowledge, just some experience fixing up and using FDM printers. Fortunately my DnD group added an engineer who has a ton of experience with all kinds of printers and he convinced me it was a stupid idea. Honestly I get great results with my ender 3 (now that I upgraded the hell out of it), and my FLSun is good enough for terrain and making things out of petg that I actually need. It's great to be able to pull a new NPC or monster off the plate any time I need it, and even better to not breath in terrible fumes.Reply
So goodReply
Just got mine, used it a couple of times, but it wasn't until the weather got really warm here that I noticed the fumes, (DESPITE READING THE WARNINGS!). I've now got a fan going with it and an open window. VOCs and IPA are no joke.Reply
Yes im also scared of certain crafts. Even textiles which are my love involves breathing in fabric dust :/Reply
Same with certain 3d printing filaments.Reply
I don't know if it's apocryphal or not, but I've heard that the guy who started Forge World (American company that would upscale Epic minis ti 40k scale) left the industry because over time he developed a sensitivity to resin and could no longer work with it.Reply
Absolutely. I only work with tiny amounts, replace my organic vapor cartridges frequently, and built a fume hood in a room that is only used for resin (and cat proof chemical storage). And my coworker will just buy resin kits on Amazon and make party favors on her kitchen counter and not believe that it's toxic.Reply
My mom works with a ton of resin and ignores every warning I give her about the fumes. It drives me insane, and I've tried countless times to drill how much I don't want to see her suffer and potentially die as a result of this, but she is so insanely stubbornReply
Fumes and microplastics?Reply
I don't know much, but do most 3d printers use resin? I was thinking of getting into 3d printing but maybe not if it's all resin 😅Reply
There's two general types, FDM and resin. FDM it's not toxic if you aren't printing with filament that off-gasses toxic fumes. PLA is the usual filament people use and it is, as far as I'm aware, safe. You just have to make sure if you want to try other filaments that you either have a fume solution or you specifically buy filament that isn't toxic.Reply
I use a tabletop grow box with a vent that routes the fumes out a window. Inside the box I have my printer and an air scrubber. In the vent, I have an inline fan that pulls air out of the box and pushes it outside. And it still managea to stink pretty well sometimes. 3d printing is pretty sweet, though. I never thought I'd be able to design things to print and actually make them tangible.Reply
I drilled a 4-in hole in my wall and have a small 3D printed fume hood that I made I process all my prints in front of.Reply
typically I see people use a garage for them. one clever solution I saw was putting in the garage but they put a vent hood like for a kitchen over it and vented it through the wall.Reply
Is resin 3d printing different than 3d printing in general?Reply
Resin printers use a pool of resin and a transparent LCD screen to flash uv in specific shapes to stack layers. FDM printers extrude melted plastic from a nozzle moving on an xyz axis, drawing layers in lines.Reply
Ventilation, you want a shopvac running with the hose intake at the densest spot, you can filter it or have the unit outside, windows open with fan blowing air out., air filter running, physical paper or something enclosing it, you not in the house or wearing a mask in adifferent room, etc. That's a pretty solved issue.Reply
Yeah, I got one insanely cheap on 50% off day at Goodwill and I only got a couple prints in before it got too hot to be able ventilate with my current setupReply
Cardboard box, Air extractor, ventilation duct. The hard part is finding the spot toward outside to shove the duct in.Reply
Someone in my old apartment building thought having one in their tiny apartment was a good idea. The entire building smelled awful. I can't imagine how bad it was in his apartment.Reply
I would only do solvent-cleaning of my prints outside - strictly outside.Reply
You can buy a tabletop ventilated grow tent from Amazon. Keep both your printer and curing machine inside where there's negative pressure. Painters' respirator rated for fumes, nitrile gloves, alcohol for cleanup.Reply
I set mine up near a window and bought a grow tent to house it, and installed a fan that sucks the fumes through a short pipe out the windowReply
it's the only thing stopping me from looking into a resin printer especially when they were going cheap a few weeks backReply
I keep my printer and cleaning station in a grow tent with a 6" vent fan and a filter that vents outside and I use a respirator when I have the tent open. It does a good job and I never really notice any fumes in that roomReply
I built a fume hood for my 3d printers. It's just a wooden box and a bathroom exhaust fan that I piped out a window. Works fantasticReply
Not your only risk, especially if you get into spicy glaze mixing or old supplies. Nothing like finding a little surprise thorium in a boxReply
I have no idea but be careful listening to any advice you get on Reddit. Anyone could make up some comment that hurts you or they just don’t know what they’re doing but think they doReply
1. Cardiac Disease 2. Cancers 3. Diabetes Those are the 3 big killers. All are highly preventable (greatly reduced chances) with diet, exercise, and environment. Hobbies that prevent you from exercising are bad. Hobbies that put toxins and poisons near you are bad. Hobbies that fuel a bad diet are bad. Hobbies that combine all 3? Really bad. One example is BBQ Competitions (or working at a BBQ Pit Master). Long days, smoke, and it is not health food. PS: Someone on Reddit will now want to argue that BBQ is health food or there is a corner case where it can be. Let me just say STFU.Reply
Life be like ”Get busy dyin’ or get busy dyin’.”Reply
Today i learned. Thanks for posting this. I just googled it and its a huge eye opener. Fortunately i only weld aluminum every once in a while in a well ventilated shop. I didnt realize it was because of the ozone. Makes perfect sense tho after googling it.Reply
You're doing it all wrong! Fold, not cut /S or whatever obligatory marking is required to indicate a poor attempt at humourReply
You have missed the biggest thing. Wear sunscreen. If I could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen would be it. The long term benefits of sunscreen have been proved by scientists...Reply
Everyone with naturally fair skin used to tan for hours when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s. It's nice that it's not so normalized now. Movie stars back in the day looked like hell with their leathery sun-damaged skin.Reply
Funnily enough, breathing is what kills us. The process of deriving energy from oxygen is one of the primary causes of agingReply
If youre doing a small quick tack weld, yeah its not uncommon to just tack it if you dont have your welding hood on. No one is doing long welds without a hood.Reply
Believe it or not, circle track racing too. A lot of people (the car we race) still melt our own lead into the shapes we need to fit in specific locations on the car to put the required weight where we want it. Thankfully we rarely have to do this. Like twice in 10 years. Outside on a breezy day, in an open field with PPE is how we roll. Also reduces the risk of burning shit down 🤣Reply
Leaded fuel is still allowed at racetracks also, and there is demonstrably lower IQ in children who live near them. [link removed]Reply
General aviation still uses leaded gasoline as well. There’s been a push in recent times to transition to unleaded with the FAA targeting a complete phase-out of leaded fuel by 2030. However, reception has been mixed due to compatibility and corrosion issues with various unleaded fuels and adoption slow as a result.Reply
Given that it's hard enough to regulate things domestically in this era of deregulation (here in the states), getting the world to regulate jet fuel has got to be on a whole other level. Maybe the EU can do something and force the rest of the world to comply like they do with everything else?Reply
General aviation is not commercial air transport. JetA used on virtually all commercial flights is similar to most other types of jet fuel, which is basically kerosene and doesn’t contain lead. GA planes running on low lead gasoline are going to be piston powered aircraft, think Cessnas and Pipers flying out of your local small airports. I don’t know much about Europe’s GA situation. To my understanding, they’re further along in the transition but 100LL is still available at most airports along with unleaded options. If anything is going to make change happen in the states, it’s going to have to be from the FAA themselves.Reply
There was a video going around years ago where a guy got his shirt I think caught in his lathe. You can’t unsee what happened next.Reply
Concrete work too, but not a hobby.Reply
“Potter’s Rot”, a horrible disease with a great nameReply
The Autoerotic Asphyxiation crowd would agree.Reply
> 3. Wear gloves *Not always.* If you're working with rotary or cyclical tools they can get snagged and take a finger with them. Lathes, jigsaws, table saws, it's significantly safer to just pay attention and use bare hands. I definitely glove up for yard work and hand sawing and biking and fixing the struts on the shelves in the garage or doing anything involving glass and all, but if there is a tool that can automatically move a sharp edge in close proximity to my hands, I'd prefer a nasty cut over a degloving. Don't google degloving if you don't know what it means. You don't want it to happen, that's all you need to know.Reply
Why? Edit: Now I wish I didn’t askReply
For example, when I operate my pedestal grinder at work I never wear gloves. The spinning wheel will strip skin off of you, but if it catches a glove it can pull the digit into the machine and you might lose bones instead of just skin.Reply
There's a YouTube channel where a man cuts agates in half, and I wondered why he didn't wear, for instance, chain mail gloves. Now I understand why.Reply
Rotating tools can catch on gloves and violently pull your hand into the tool. If gloves doesn't rip, fingers get broken. If gloves does rip, bare skin meets power tool, and that never goes wellReply
If the machine is powerful enough, then it’s taking whatever it touches with it. In that case you want to lose some skin or a finger rather than wearing a glove and it takes your whole hand/arm/bodyReply
Others have answered, but I will add the fun fact that "degloving" is what you need to be worried about, I don't suggest googling that.Reply
When using power tools gloves can get caught in them and pull more of you into the dange zone.Reply
Quality PPE is dirt cheap these days.Reply
true, some of mine are on the spiky sideReply
For me, the silent killer hobby is seeing friends. I'm high risk for COVID complications & people and businesses around me don't take precautions. I gotta wear a mask, but when I'm in an environment without an air purifier or other people wearing masks, it's still dangerous. The past few years have been really isolating for a lot of similarly disabled people. I just want to go to the grocery store and walk around with my palsReply
Check if there's a cov safety group in your town. I'll try to find the website that has the whole list tomorrow, I think I saw it on IG, was shared by Sophie Dimitriou, a long covid advocate (Berlin Buyers Club).Reply
I was hoping we'd all continue masking. COVID or not, a lot of people are at constant risk just being in public. I think of my mom who's immunocompromised. It's not that hard nor expensive to wear a mask in public places, and it would do a world of good for a whole lot of people. I was also hoping we'd drop the custom of shaking hands. I'm always shocked by how many people don't even wash their hands in the public restroom.Reply
When I read that sawdust can cause cancer my jaw dropped. My uncle was a carpenter/woodworker. He never wore a mask. He died of throat and neck cancer. Never smoked or drank.Reply
A friend who does pottery also said some of the finishers, ( i forget the name but the stuff you can dunk it in) can also be super toxic and can leech into your skin if not wearing PPEReply
I have a really bad dust allergy. The studio I go to has a ton of HEPA filters and is pretty clean. Still I wear a mask every time I'm in the studio. You'd be surprised at the amount of dust that accumulates even when doing a small handbuilding project.Reply
I wear a respirator when doing yard work. My mother died from a chronic lung infection that she suffered through twenty years with. Biggest hobby was yardwork and gardening.Reply
Or any rotating machinery really...Reply
Been there with a tube cleaner for shell and tube heat exchangers. Nothing like having a 2kw motor connected to a big spinny thing rip a glove off your hand. I was lucky it was one of those disposable mechanics gloves and not something substantial.Reply
Someone wasn't made to watch a 40 minute video showing the results of wearing gloves, shirts, jackets etc with lathes and farm equipment, particularly something called a "PT Valve" which is a gear that turns with the motor on a tractor that is used to power various spinning stuff like blades and threshers. It has torque for days and is exposed and very "grabby" and if something like a sleeve gets caught up your arm is going to be a pretzel in like 2 seconds. This happened to a lady that lived about an 8th of a mile away and my dad heard her screams from our house. I still think about that video every time I mow because one of the pictures in the video was of a guys lower legs and feet that got caught in his mower when he was pulling it towards him on a hill and slipped and pulled it on his legs. His feet looked like two wedges....Reply
It's not a PT Valve it's the PTO (Power Take-Off). Maimed many a farmer.Reply
I'm gonna add amateur astronomy to the list. My dad has made many large telescopes in his life and he makes his own lead counterweights on a stovetop in the garage.Reply
Because you can’t hear tits.Reply
maybe neck pain from looking down will get ya?Reply
Skim read that as orgasm and had to scroll back up.Reply
Handy!Reply
Had no idea pottery could do that. One of those things that seems so peaceful and harmless but can actually wreck you over time.Reply
Weird, what I've gathered is: 1. Dont get a hobby.Reply
I accidentally read this as “Poetry” and I was like “how the fuck . . ?”Reply
I'm a welder. 1, 3, and 4 are my entire life.Reply
There's a Pioneer Village near me, and they have a blacksmith shop with all period equipment, where they make horseshoes and the like. The blacksmiths wore safety goggles, and there was a sign explaining that back in the old days, most blacksmiths didn't wear eye protection, but this was done because of modern safety guidelines.Reply
I just use a hazmat suite 24/7 just to be sureReply
id argue just no gambling at all, its all stress and no reward ultimatelyReply
So, free diving?Reply
They were right all along.Reply
This is a constant conversation in our house. My wife throws and mixes her own glazes. Add to that she also mixes specific soils for heirloom plants and we both are experts at inspecting her filter masksReply
I always found it frustrating how awful people are at mopping. Yes, it’s important to wet down the dust so it doesn’t get up in the air, but for fuck’s sake change out the water if it’s BROWNReply
Lololol I was also like ummm I doubt it.Reply
I had no idea. I was double gloving using bunch of power tools for diy past week 😫Reply
Noooo If you need some sort of protection with rotating tools (for example, when I’m sanding or polishing a piece of jewelry with the dremel it gets HOT, too hot to hold bare handed) use finger cots instead of gloves.Reply
I saw a guy the other day who looked about 19-20ish jackhammering a sidewalk out. No mask, cloud of dust surrounding him. Kid's gonna regret that job in about 10 years and his boss needs a good slap.Reply
Anything that spins fast, really.Reply
Free DeglovingReply
[link removed] Australia's Prime Minister years ago. Yes it's real. Yes he's a wanker.Reply
My harness already tries to do that! I don't need a lathe to do it too!Reply
I had a friend who wanted to be a fireman and was studying for his EMT (license cert??). He showed me a pic of a de-gloved finger in his study book and it was at the moment I knew for sure I didn't want anything to do with emergency medicine.Reply
do you wear mask when you take a pissReply
Florian Gatsby? More like “Found on the floor ‘n’ gasping”, Am I right folks?Reply
The non volcanic kind?Reply
1. Wear the right kind of Air masks and respirators. 2. Wear the right kind of gloves. 3. Wear the right kind of eye protection. 4. Reduce screen time.Reply
Yeah, I suck at wearing gloves with known carcinogens… damn I’m lazy…Reply
Dont do methReply
I would say especially games and gambling lmaoReply
> 1. Wear a mask when doing almost anything > Bane?Reply
Safety first for a good reasonReply
And then you staaaaart baaaack at oooooneReply
Use brushless extraction.Reply
Gloves? For what?Reply
Pretty much summed it up, because protecting your lungs and taking a screen break will unironically save you a world of pain down the line.Reply
So basically, the best hobby is to act like you're in a late 90s Marilyn Manson music video.Reply
Not a mask, a respirator. If it's not rated for Organic Vapors, it's not protecting you from most harmful chemicals used in most hobbies (other than say dust from sanding things)Reply
seems like maybe no hobbies is the safer optionReply
I do wear an N95 in most situations and I haven’t been sick in a really, really long time so, can confirm! But honestly, this is a good summary of common sense says to avoid preventable bad stuff from happeningReply
Noted. I just put on a mask while staring at this computer screen, and will see about ordering some gloves. Does getting up to pee count for #2?Reply
My grandad had 2 jobs in his working life, one in a pottery factory and then in an asbestos factory. Unsurprisingly he didn't make it far into his retirement.Reply
Wearing gloves should be a lot lower on the listReply
Luckily, the hobbies listed will help you do just that!Reply
At least then the hobbies won't kill youReply
If you are working in a shared studio, doing wet wheel throwing stuff, is that okay?Reply
Absolutely. The risk is about dry dust not wet clayReply
Choir singing is fun except I'd there is a pandemicReply
You can for 2 part resin, lots of people just dontReply
You wear gloves to keep the finger to stitch it back onReply
If the finger has been cut off cleanly they can reattach, if it's been ripped off or blown off with fireworks they aren't usually reattachable. Xray tech at a level 1 trauma center who has seen hundreds of degloving injuries.Reply
One shop class degloving video is enough to rewire your brain about gloves forever.Reply
Wait till people find out you can "sunburn" your eyes weldingReply
Yeah done that once and never again, I was welding a cast aluminum gearbox with too light of a shade in my helmet. Woke up in the middle of the night feeling like someone had rubbed sand into my eyes and was unable to see clearly for half a day.Reply
A family member has a welding shop and I was in it one day while he did a bit of welding for a few minutes, no more than 5 minutes total. I only had a tee shirt on my torso under a shop apron. I ended up with a uv burn on my upper arm, from the one side facing him. I wasn’t even near him as I was busy doing something else. It was a clean, red, sunburn with a crisp line where my shirt sleeve ended. I was shocked I got burned from so little exposure from so far away.Reply
I was welder and pipe fitter in the US Navy. I developed a basal cell carcinoma next to my eye from SMA (stick) welding. The VA had to pay for me to go to Oregon Health Sciences University (OHSU) for something called MOS surgery. It was a whole deal.Reply
PG&E would like to disagree about hex chrome. Unfortunately for them, they also had the data to show had bad it was.Reply
What, I’m supposed to be afraid of something I can’t even see? No god fearing American thinks that way!Reply
Also less of a problem for all the retirees in Florida, when it finally falls into the sea.Reply
I got stung as a kid and found out the hard way I'm one of those first time anaphylaxis ones. Part of me wonders if it's genetic because my mother too had the same allergy, which is why I got an epipen in time because she already had the pen. It's pretty amazing how one little bee could do that to someone but not so amazing not being able to breathe. I never have been stung again because I am nice to the bees but people don't get why I don't want just anyone's raw honey or something without knowing what the filtration process is like. But it was clear I would never be a beekeeper, but I find what you guys do really cool.Reply
wait you can get anaphylaxis from raw honey? crazyReply
More so that stingers get lost, bees die, etc in hives and sometimes without filtration , it's a bad idea for me to try it. It might or might not, but it's still a risk.Reply
It also changes the color of your gel nail polish 💅🏼Reply
How does one get in to beekeeping? Does one work at Balmoral?Reply
Find a mentor whose willing to teach you would be one way. Another would be to reach out to your state Ag extension to see if they offer courses. I myself taught at the university level in western Colorado and received my Master Beekeepers Certification from the University of Montana in Missoula.Reply
Reading "one" in this as both a pronoun and a number made me feel a little crazy.Reply
LOL! I did mention I was old, we were taught to spell numbers versus using a numeric number when writing. Old habit.Reply
This is what i came here for!!! Hexavalent chromium is no fucking joke! Grinding, welding, polishing stainless steel is what the movie Erin Brocovich is about. It pertains to lots of other chrome alloys too. In the heavy equipment world we deal with "clad metal" which is chromium carbide bonded to carbon steel so it can be welded as strips on the earth moving buckets like loaders and excavators. The "granola bar" as we call it can only be cut with a plasma cutter and the fumes are TOXIC AS FUCK. Real deal respirators only. They will make a video about your ignorance if you dont head all warnings when cutting grinding or welding stainless steel or other chromium alloys.Reply
not limited to men unfortunately, i worked with a woman a couple years ago who refused to wear eye protection & would actively avoid doing anything that required a hard hat. terrible ladder safety too, but she could lift more than anyone we worked withReply
Is this why they all move to Florida instinctually at the end of their life?Reply
So, me being an idiot in welding class KNEW about this. But I figured it wasn't that bad, it's summer and I'm sweating puddles, I'll take my sleeves off and if I start burning I'll feel it. Wrong, buckaroo. On top of them being WAY more powerful than my dumbass accounted for, and the fact I was absolutely wrong about feeling it (it's much, much too late then,) I was in a booth. With white walls on 3 sides of me. My dumbass basically UV microwaved myself. A couple hours after class it started. By the time it was done I was an inhuman shade of red. That was a hard learned but well learned lesson.Reply
Sorry to hear that. I hope you find a long-term solution to your pain. I’m in my 50s now, and I’ve mostly learned how to manage mine. It often feels like playing whack-a-mole—chasing new issues that seem to stem from who knows what. For me, the biggest help has been warming up every morning and doing heavier exercise on certain days. Just as important is recognizing when to stop and let your body recover. I lived by the “no pain, no gain” mantra for far too long before realizing how flawed it can be. I’ve worked on a computer for the past 20 years, and that has created its own set of problems: back pain, wrist issues from using a mouse and scroll wheel all day, and the usual repetitive strain injuries. I eventually taught myself to use my left hand for the mouse to spread the workload, and later switched to a Wacom tablet, which helped a lot. Good luck with your journey. You’re still young. Take care of your body. You only get one!Reply
Yeah it's all fun and games until someone falls from a 2 story building and is paralyzed from the neck down. Happened to an acquaintance of mine.Reply
*Slaps ocean* You can fit so many retirees in this baby.Reply
From google: An EpiPen typically has a shelf life of 12 to 18 months, but studies show it can retain at least 90% of its epinephrine potency up to 29 months after expiration if stored properly and not discolored or cloudy. I replace mine every two years.Reply
I'll carry my heart down to the sea and let the salt dissolve itReply
> My sister did this work - the reality is they ignore them and that person is there to check a box and take the fall when they get audited. Depends on the company. The last construction company I managed had a health&safety inspector who had insane power. She was able to cite individuals and if they were unable to defend why they did not need certain PPE or safety measures on a site, they would get laid off in incremental times. First offense was remainder of day, the next offense was 3 days, 1-week, 1-month, and so on. People straight up feared her when she showed up onsite. Even if the safety person takes the fall, the construction companies insurance does not care, they will still raise rates if they find out you aren't following safety protocol.Reply
I was waiting in the hospital to be seen for a broken rib. Poor older bloke came through who had completely blinded himself from the uv after he forgot to put his mask down.Reply
He would’ve had to have welded with his eyes open for a good bit of time before needing to go to the hospital. Lol Source: I have struck an arc with my shield up or set to “grind” mode many times.Reply
I took an ‘industrial orientation’ aka advanced shop class in hs. For welding they gave everyone overalls to protect clothing but I left mine unbuttoned at the top. Took a minute to figure out where that triangle sunburn came from.Reply
I learned from an art metal welding class. Luckily the instructor made sure we understood the risks on day one. When he brought it up a few people told stories about how the learned the hard wayReply
It's true. My step uncle was a welder and he was always getting into arguments with other people who didn't like the amount of uv radiation he produced.Reply
it’s also a serious carcinogen, especially if airborne.Reply
Believe it or not, digital artists also ruin their backs (though in different ways)Reply
Really sorry to hear that, that’s awful. Hope you’ve been able to find some other hobbies to fill its place. That’s a huge life change been forced on you and I bet most people don’t fully understand it.Reply
Death due to respiratory issues has got the be a very historically accurate way to die. Lots of pneumonia deaths out there, and TB…Reply
Also smoke from cooking fires, dust, bacteria and spores from living more exposed to the elements... Mofos out here talkin' 'bout _chemicals_ as if humanity didn't experience constant environmental assault before the modern age.Reply
Everything is made of chemicals thoughReply
I know. That's the joke.Reply
These are also foreign invaders to the lungs though, and doesn’t mean that lungs themselves aren’t suited for longer lifespansReply
Tuberculosis is the single deadliest disease in human history.Reply
I mean, silicon (sand, clay), smoke, flour and sawdust are all pretty classic materials that historically shortened the lives of people who worked with them or lived near them.Reply
believe it or not, the world has been full of deadly and dangerous things to inhale since long before humans added anything to the mix. lung issues are also a leading historical cause of death, long before globalized industrial pollution.Reply
I think there’s a Chubby Emu YouTube video about thisReply
Yes - don't weld anything that's been [cleaned with brake cleaner]([link removed] It produces [Phosgene]([link removed] gas (used in chemical warfare during WWI).Reply
I wonder if can apply that to other toxic masculinity habits that make this world suck more than it needs to.Reply
It's not only toxic masculinity, it would apply to most societal norms that fuck up other peoples safety. One obvious example is speeding. If speeding tickets didn't exist, then everyone would just go as fast as they deem "safe" which is always much faster than they should be going. Approximately 1/3 of all vehicle accidents are due to speeding. Imagine slashing the vehicle accident rate by 30% across the board - that'd be the dream.Reply
I wonder how bad torch cutting is? Ive been doing demo on an old coal plant for the past two years. We wear FR coveralls, welding hoods,half face respirators with carbon filters and green face shield. I feel like im getting blinded slowly looking at molten metal all day behind the shield. Not to mention burning through old lead paint covered beams, stainless, aluminum, copper wires, galvanized steel, cast iron, brass and anything else that came out that nasty shithole.Reply
The sun burn can get you good in just 10 minutes. A long enough weld session will give you 2nd degree burns.Reply
You can also end up with tiny slivers of metal in your eyes. This would then make it unsafe for you to get an MRI if you ever needed to.Reply
Get a protective layer of tar on em ASAP 🚬🚬🚬Reply
But that's the thing. People ARE reckless and weld in flip flops and a mankini without any eye protection...Reply
Natural selection doesn’t really take anything past about 40 into account and in evolutionary terms the time passed since the industrial revolution is a blink of an eye. The past few thousand years of relative modernity is also pretty much a blink of an eye as well.Reply
you gotta get a piece of cardboard and put a few tiny holes it in then tape it to the visor on your hat so you can just flip it down. no squinting necessary.Reply
So we should all be like The Deep?Reply
My work tried to get me to work in the same building all day while they were putting curing paint type acrylic on the floor. I wore a gas mask we already had there and couldn't smell it and I looked up if it would work and it did. Guy who was putting it on the floor wore nothing and kinda laughed at me. I got nauseous when I took the mask off for a second, that guys lungs are probably screwed.Reply
I mean… isn’t that sort of Florida?Reply
You can literally get desensitisation injections to bee venom. It's well researched and widely practiced.Reply
Yes, I was going to mention this but the success rate of the commercial beekeepers who've done this is less than 50%. Would you be willing to risk your life from one sting? I personally have done this to no avail. I'm still carrying an epi-pen while working the bees.Reply
That's what was in the groundwater contaminating it in Hinkley CA (was the subject of the movie Erin Brockovitch)Reply
In the same family of hobbies, I’d say soldering can do a number on you also if you don’t do it rightReply
I'm starting beekeeping in spring 2027. I've ordered a full bee suit. Do you find yourself getting stung with one of those?Reply
Yes, no suit is 100%. Most of my stings are gotten through gloves.Reply
The wrists in the gloves are my biggest issue for sureReply
3rd year — never been stung in the full suit.Reply
Got stung by a wasp last summer on the crown of my head and smacked it. What I didn’t know was the stinger got stuck and within 5 minutes I felt the onset of shock (there’s no fat or muscle at the top of your head, so the venom went right into the blood stream). I didn’t have an EpiPen because I’ve never had a problem, we were at a cabin and immediately started out for the hospital. 10 minutes in, it became apparent we weren’t going to make it and had to go to a fire station. Get this: the guys weren’t licensed to administer an EpiPen though, so we had to wait until the chief called and gave permission - all the while, I feel like I’m on deaths door. Evidently someone must have sued before and now it’s a legal thing. The ambulance arrived at the same time the chief gave the go ahead, got 2 EpiPen shots and sent off to the ER. They got me stabilized but I didn’t really improve for several hours until my wife looked at the injection spot and found the stinger 😑. Scary stuff, but I’m 5 months into allergy shots for vespid and wasp. The doc said they still dont know how long it will last or how effective it will be, but it’s worth the risk to potentially avoid that mess again.Reply
Exactly this happened to my mom. Crazy stuff.Reply
I did a bunch of tack welding without covers once and got a winter sunburn on my arms.Reply
I get getting your arms sunburned but how do you mess up your eyes? Aren't you wearing a mask whenever you are actually welding?Reply
We had a few guys at the shop and multiple projects going at the same time a lot. So flashes was very common. We did large sculpture and structures as well so may have more than one person welding at the same time.Reply
Smells like chicken soup gone off.Reply
> maybe not ideally suited to our extended life expectancies ?Reply
I work in a plating shop that still uses hex chrome. Very rarely do I have to be anywhere near the chrome tank, and there is plenty of adequate ventilation, but one of the old heads has told stories of getting headaches, nosebleeds, and flu-like sicknesses in the past when he had to work near the stuff. Chronic acid is nasty, smells bad, stains clothes and skinReply
The opposite really. They are surprisingly resilient so people often overlook small hazards like breathing in volatile fumes because it only feels bad for a second. The constant pumping makes them feel like they're regularly being cycled or refreshed but the damage adds up over time.Reply
Been there, done that with the zinc and i can tell you that it's not fun to roll around in bed with cold sweat soaked sheets all night.Reply
I would take my chances and return to live in the sea.Reply
Not with all the crap dumped in the water these days.Reply
Throw the Old Ones back again!Reply
We shouldn't drown the old people...Reply
Can confirm, I am half ginger and flash burn will set in a few beads without wearing sleeves. I wear a gator on my neck too cuz that one fuckin hurtsReply
I once forgot to button up the top few buttons of my shirt before a day of welding at work… That little triangle was the absolute *worst* sunburn I’ve ever had and I live in Australia FFS.Reply
Welding flashes is what it's called when you get temporarily blinded from it. My father has had to go to the doctors a few times for it.Reply
I was teaching in my classroom as the building across the street was being built. Welder lit up his torch and started welding, my eye caught a good glimpse of the flash and I had to stop class for a bit. Even 50 feet away that ish is still dangerous.Reply
And it gives you an IRL crosshairReply
My grandpa welded and lived to 100. Those fumes are a preservative! Welder here also. Giddy Up!Reply
Light zap go burr thoReply
On the toxic fumes side, welders are at risk of developing manganism due to chronic exposure to manganese. It's known at the "welders disease" and can cause Parkinsons-like motor issues. Source: my dad was a welder, now dealing with motor challenges.Reply
My Dad got very bad skin for a while from welding zinc plated steel.Reply
A buddy of mine has no hearing in one ear because a weld spark went in his ear straight through his ear drum. Apparently the side of his head doubled in size during recovery.Reply
My dad has been a career welder for over 30 years. He just got diagnosed with lung cancer a year ago.Reply
My brother died from melanoma, we were told it was likely from the welding in his jobReply
Clean the surfaces being welded with brake-clean compounds and expose one's self phosgene - a favorite WWI weaponized poison.Reply
Welding as a hobby?Reply
That’s why I do my welding underwaterReply
I’m 35 and never been stung by a bee. I’m sure I’ll find out I’m allergic 3 hours from the nearest hospital.Reply
Sun burnt eyes from welding was one the worst pain I ever experienced. Needed like 3 pain killers to fall asleep.Reply
I was a smoker for many years, and I also had a hidden medical condition called blebs, which are tiny air filled blisters that form between your lung and chest wall. when they burst, they break down the fluid pressure that keeps your lung inflated and your lung can and will collapse. This can also be caused by several of the conditions people listed above. Let me tell you how much fun having a collapsed lung is for those who dont know: First, you feel like a gorilla just sat down on your chest and wont get up. You literally cannot get enough air to function normally. Walking more than a few steps feels like you just ran a marathon. Next, when you get to the hospital, they cut an incision between two of your ribs and insert a chest tube. They then hook that tube up to a vacuum pump that runs 24 hours a day, and sounds like an idling chainsaw. Then they take you upstairs to a room where you will spend the next several days laying in a hospital bed hooked up to said chainsaw noise. The docs will come in every few hours, round the clock, to give you heparin shots to keep you from developing blood clots. Heparin shots, for the uninitiated, are generally given on your stomach/belly area and feel approximately like someone putting out a lit cigarette on you. Oh, and also, you cant ever get comfortable, because the chest tube is snaked around behind your lung and pushes on your spine and muscles from the inside and its like a dull pain all the time that you dont get painkillers for because its not bad enough for that. After several days, they start testing your lung capacity by having you blow constantly into a tube to float a pingpong ball. Its tiring. They perform plenty of other tests to make sure youre good to go before you get out. After they give the green light, they pull the chest tube, which hurts because its coming out through an open wound that isnt numbed up, then they give you several stitches and tell you no showering for at least 2-3 days while the wound seals (mind you, the most youve had in the last week is a sponge bath). Then you get to deal with the after effects that last for years, such as the occasional twinge of nerve pain, and you question every cough or pain you have anywhere near your shoulder blades. That being said, I quit smoking the day I went in and havent touched a cigarette in almost 20 years. I NEVER want to go through that again. Take care of your lungs kids. PPE always.Reply
I mean....they're explicitly poison lol. But people get complacent.Reply
Are you sure it wasn't sarcoidosis?Reply
This is why I"m not a fan of wood fireplaces, however cosy they are. (which sucks as most of my childhood we depended on a wood fired stove daily and had campfires camping, so my smoke exposure is way more than average). Same goes with gas stovetops. Electricity all the way for me.Reply
"My back hurts, my lungs don't" mentality.Reply
Yeah I was just going to comment this. It's not the moss that is the etiologic agent; its the sporothrix dimorphic fungi. I had to learn all the dimorphic fungi in school and they're all considered criticals if I identify them at work.Reply
I'm a chemist. My next door neighbor or is a pipe fitter. We bonded over our mutual respect and insistence on proper ppe for projects.Reply
Carbon isn’t an issue in the air we breathe.Reply
It’s never Lupus.Reply
Perlite is supposedly safer than diatomaceous earth (filter mediums) but given how fine it usually is and what its made of I'd wholeheartedly agree with you. Places I've worked required respirators to be worn when using it, and the dust goes everywhereReply
TIL I should be careful building reptile habitats at the pet store, considering my immune and respiratory system are already compromised (long COVId and resulting sleep apnea and asthma, and lifelong allergies before that). We use sphagnum moss to help with humidity retention.Reply
respirators are cheapReply
Absolutely. I’ve had asthma since I was a kid but we’ve also discovered some familial pulmonary fibrosis, and my dad had a lung transplant a couple years ago. I guess it’s one of the harder transplants to deal with because they’re constantly exposed to outside air and everything in it. I’m now even more focused on keeping my lungs safe and healthy because I’ve seen the impact of not doing that and I’d like to avoid that at all costs. They’re delicate things.Reply
Yes. I took some classes from an artist who had been carving egg shells for 40 years. She was about 70. I didn't press for more details, but basically whatever happened to her lungs from breathing in the shell dust was killing her.Reply
It's really the oxygen that makes air toxic, believe it or not. That's the genuinely toxic fume in all air we breath. Aerobic biology took a long time to evolve precisely because oxygen is so reactive. As a result, aerobic life forms put considerable resources into anti-oxidation mechanisms, and even with them we suffer a lot of damage due to oxidation reactions from O2 and other ROS. It's a major stressor.Reply
I am haunted by this thread I saw during covid. It was a bunch of various kinds of tradesmen talking about how they were forced to wear a mask for covid reasons after never wearing one and it's so weird, but I'm not coughing up black gunk every night! I don't wake up with a sore throat every day! My persistent dry cough that I've had for years is gone! Crazy! I wonder how many of them kept wearing masks after covid. I hope it was all of them but it seems unlikely.Reply
It was. But I've just watched the show enough times that I know pretty much every outcome to each episode.Reply
I did research on microinvertebrates in a sphagnum moss bog about 10 years ago, had no idea. 💀 I was crawling digging holes for sample and removing them by hand. Whelp.Reply
Wait what. Damn I use sphagnum for my carnivorous plantsReply
Our lungs are too good. No, really. We can have basically a normal life with only one lung. So we don't notice any damage to our lungs until it's far, far too late. If we'd have an instant reaction and not be able to breath, we'd be far more vigilant with masks and the like.Reply
Have you looked into coco coir?Reply
it's crazy that it was only about a decade ago that this became osha regulatedReply
I think possibly because it’s easily diagnosed? My next door neighbour got prickled by a rose bush and his hand doubled in size. Definitely alarming.Reply
how does a single line sum up a character so well?Reply
That gif lives rent free in my head until the end of timesReply
You are correct- sporotrichosis in immunocompetent people REQUIRES to be deposited deeper through broken skin, e.g. rose thorn prick. Our immune system is very capable of managing diseases on its own. Which is why "toxic mold exposure" isn't a real infection risk, only an allergy risk in healthy people. We're constantly inhaling spores and bacteria and whatnot and our bodies are able to keep it at bay. If you're immunocompromised, though, whole other story...Reply
wow this is good to know, I was a tree planter for a few years and we'd always plant in sphagnum mossReply
huh... we learned about Rose Gardener's Thumb in med school, and I remember it was caused by Sporothrix schenckii... but I don't remember learning the sphagnum moss connection. TILReply
I often wonder about the lungs of barista's. I can't imagine coffee bean dust is especially great for the lungs.Reply
Respiratory therapist here. Not breathing sucks. Never being able to catch your breath until you die gargles massive donkey balls.Reply
I think it's more that damage to the lungs takes a long time to build up and doesn't have an immediate effect plus once something sets in, recovery is difficult. It's not like how if you're woodworking you can slice your hand. Fast, sharp blades are something you're fare more aware of and immediately dangerous, so you're more cautious to it as opposed to dust or fumes which might make you cough a bit and then be fine for several years before it really gets you.Reply
Sort of! It's about length of exposure. Most lung related issues come from 10+ years of constant exposure. The issue is tiny exposure has no effect. Your lungs can deal with a lot. But it's like hospital x rays. You can have one every five years with zero issues! The technician needs to be protected because they're gonna do thousands and that tiny exposure adds up. So the message is DO NOT PANIC. Wear a mask.Reply
It’s not the moss itself, it’s a fungus called Sporothrix that lives in damp dirt/gardens/on mossReply
Respirators aren't too expensive, l pick one up for handling. Enjoy your hobby!Reply
I know you don't mean it this way but your comment sounded like "Enjoy bitch" 😂Reply
Lmao. I do have that relationship with my friends so that's absolutely a thing I would say in a super sassy yet aggressively supportive way 🤣🤣Reply
Is that what killed Mr Miyagi? I’m fucking going to war with bonsai plants. Call the banners, ready the horses, prepare the torches!Reply
Probably not, in Cobra Kai, you see his tombstone and he lived to be 86. Older than the actor who played him. Daniel-san is fucked, though. He has a room in his car dealership where he grows numerous bonsai plants that he gives away as gifts to his customers.Reply
In the same vein, one of the most popular species in bonsai is Yew. Yew's are toxic and when you are carving it, you need to wear a mask and be really careful.Reply
I'm old enough to remember watching his show. It was good. I might still have some episodes I recorded on VHS in a box somewhere. RIP Brian Batchelder.Reply
This reinforces my reasoning behind wearing masks when working with hay on the farm. I don't care how many people call me Darth Vader i've seen what that kind of exposure did to my dad after 40 years.Reply
My husband and I installed tile in our bedroom in our last house. I cut, he laid. We didn't want to pay the money for a tile saw large enough to do the rip cuts we needed so it was decided I would use our angle grinder. I should have worn the respirator. I did wear a mask, an N95. But not the respirator. Even with the N95 my face was covered in tile dust at the end of each day.Reply
Dude, it’s Reddit fear-mongering. The absolute worst case scenario is you get a rash and need some antifungal cream. Live your lives ffsReply
I've grown CP's for years in many different media and I'd be more concerned with Perlite dust, they keep telling us there's no evidence it's harmful but messing with that stuff dry creates clouds of airborne dust which is a red flag to me. Asbestos was once thought to be safe!Reply
Same here. Good to know, I’ll for sure be wearing gloves and mask when working with it from now onReply
Maybe a dumb question, but would coconut coir work? I started building my soil mixes with a coir base after i read that sphagnum might not be the most environmentally sustainable option. Seems to be working so far, but not sure how it would do with carnivorous plantsReply
Coco coir is an “it depends” answer, it has a lot of salts which are obviously bad for CPs, some come rinsed, some don’t, I’ve had mixed results with it.Reply
Keep them outsideeee! (But honestly, same reaction. I have preexisting lung issues and question my choice of hobbies because they are all here.)Reply
Yes but did he throw up blood? Because it's not an episode of house until someone throws up blood...Reply
I’m sure they’ll feel like a man when they’re permanently reliant on supplemental oxygen by the time they’re 60. If they even make it to 60.Reply
I would think that doing thinks to sort of aerosolize the particles and agitate the material would be the most likely to cause issues. I would guess that if you had a bunch that was bone dry and you were grinding it up in your hands, that would be the worst case.Reply
Just saw an article this week about levels of bicarbonate in our blood appearing to rise in concert with atmospheric CO2 and that *if* the relationship persists and CO2 levels continue to rise at the current rate we could exceed the maximum healthy blood bicarbonate level by the end of the century.Reply
I imagine the risk for orchid owners who just have a few (less than five) plants would be rather low? How often would the moss release spores?Reply
This isn't coming from the moss's reproductive spores, but fungus spores in the moss. It most frequently (which is still not all that frequent, mind you) enters the body through cuts in the skin so if you're really worried, wear gloves.Reply
Copying my previous comment on this thread: Don't worry, you're constantly inhaling spores- moss or no moss. The air we breath is not sterile. We're inhaling mycobacteria, fungi, bacteria, etc all the time. Thank your lungs and immune system. They keep things in check very well. The whole "toxic mold exposure" is so overblown, especially when you know how much you're inhaling just generally. Good news is, invasive fungal diseases are exceedingly rare in immunocompetent folks (not that rare cases don't occur, they're just...rare). Sporotrichosis or "rose gardeners disease" occurs because there's an injury to the skin which deposits the fungus deeper. Even then, in generally healthy people, the disease only manifests as a skin/lymphatic issue. Source- I'm an infectious disease physician. Same with exposing your skin to multiple pathogens, you're always touching bacteria. Wash your hands often, wear garden gloves and (if repotting etc) a mask while gardeningReply
I would think dried would be worse....the spores and allReply
No way… My childhood house in the PWN had moss infested yards. That means every time someone mowed the lawn they’re essentially gassing themselves with spores 😭😭Reply
Didn't want to comment multiple times on this post, but might just have to. Don't worry, you're constantly inhaling spores- moss or no moss. The air we breath is not sterile. We're inhaling mycobacteria, fungi, bacteria, etc all the time. Thank your lungs and immune system. They keep things in check very well. The whole "toxic mold exposure" is so overblown, especially when you know how much you're inhaling just generally. Good news is, invasive fungal diseases are exceedingly rare in immunocompetent folks (not that rare cases don't occur, they're just...rare). Sporotrichosis or "rose gardeners disease" occurs because there's an injury to the skin which deposits the fungus deeper. Even then, in generally healthy people, the disease only manifests as a skin/lymphatic issue. Source- I'm an infectious disease physician.Reply
Thank you doctor 🙏Reply
oh damn. Good to know!Reply
Holy crap. That's right up there with white lung from bakers.Reply
r/bonsai and r/moss just lost 10k subscribers 😳 (Just kidding!)Reply
I didn't know this. I love terrariums. ThanksReply
FASCINATING!Reply
Uh-oh...Reply
This is going to cross my mind every time I rewatch The Karate Kid for the rest of my life.Reply
Bonsai artist Brain Betchelder? Bruh. Here's my Yogi: John Smith.Reply
FREEEDOMMMMM!!!!Reply
If TikTok has taught me anything it’s that there’s no respiratory disease that a pair of plastic sandals doesn’t protect you against.Reply
They're like two bagpipes. Source: I had childhood asthma.Reply
I'll choose not to believe it.Reply
someone tell Serpa DesignsReply
top 4? I'm counting at least top 11Reply
Yup because everyone believes lung cancer is a smokers disease—so it gets VERY LITTLE funding compared to the other cancers due to the stigma. Yet here we are… seeing it’s not just smokers at all. Weirdly, marathon runners seems to get it too.Reply
My spouses family and myself just watched our mother die at home a week ago (hospice) due to COPD. She never smoked because her parents were smokers and also died of COPD. I think I'm going to keep some good masks handy.Reply
Does anything matter when you already live in a 3 digit AQI environmentReply
Yes and no. This post is specifically about taking it to an extreme. Exposure length and dose are huge factors and stuff like this isn't a binary switch where "Do X causes Y" instead its "Do X increases your chance of Y" For most hobbiests, the exposure is still pretty small. Taking precautions won't hurt but its important to be mindful of scale and to keep things in perspective. This isn't always the case but for a lot of these, it took the task being the person's career (so 40+ hours a week for likely decades) to see enough of an increase for a doctor to go "Hmm, maybe I should research this" So you doing it 5 hours a week would take 8 times longer to see a similar effect. (Often these things aren't linear but I am likely in the ballpark or overestimating)Reply
They are literally a cell interface between the world and your bloodstream. Super delicate.Reply
(Looks outdoors anxiously)Reply
Its funny, most tradies are resistant to using PPE, but it comes up again and again with plasterers that you /NEED/ to wear a mask when mixing up a batch. So much gypsum dust goes everywhere and it will just shred your lungs with constant exposure. All the greybeards are strict, cause it will ruin a career.Reply
this is the wildest thing to learn about in this thread frReply
Do you enjoy breathing? I doReply
And we literally invented a way to throw some smoke and tar in our lungs with tobaccoReply
Reading this as I smoke a joint filled with rosin. FuckReply
Yeah. I spent a chunk of last year with a provisional diagnosis of a horrible, and potentially progressive/deadly lung condition (hypersensitivity pneumonitis). It was triggered by exposure to mold from compost, and the diagnosis was given by a GP and then reconfirmed by multiple other doctors including A&E and a specialist consultant. Thankfully, it turned out to be asthma in the end, but for three months I became an expert on lung conditions. The main thing I learnt was that there’s a fuckload of things which seem innocuous (gardening, feeding pigeons, using hot tubs or aircon) and yet can end up as a death sentence.Reply
I wondering it was and I missed itReply
Well most bonsai is in peat free medium so not really. It’s more so nursery production where it’s a bigger issueReply
yup, i feel you with the neck one. wasn’t even working for more than a couple hours but it hurt like hellReply
this sounds so australianReply
Don't worry, nothing new and creative gets made anymore, so I'm sure it will get a reboot any day nowReply
Good luck! I hope this works for you.Reply
Hey, my safety squints have worked just fine for 40 years. Why change now??? (/s)Reply
This is my dad 100% lol. So many trips to the ER/Clinic. Idk growing up watching that i'm just a big PPE guy since I was a young kid.Reply
Shade of your helmet should not matter for UV exposure for your eyes. A pair of untinted safety glasses would be sufficient to prevent that. What likely happened is arc-flash that got around your helmet or bounced off a nearby surface. Had that happen when welding inside something metal. The solution is simple though: wear safety glasses always. The polycarbonate is sufficient to protect you from UV exposure, and if they're tight fitting then it won't matter if you get arcs around the welding helmet.Reply
You wouldn't be trying to achieve this with random bee stings.. you get a referral from your GP to an immunologist and undergo a program to get regular controlled doses in the form of injections. I'm literally undergoing this process currently. I realise its not available to everybody, but your comment about not being able to build resistance to the venom is blatantly wrong, medically speaking.Reply
We live twice as long as needed to make the max amount of humans we can. Nature has no impulse to keep our lungs working 90 yearsReply
My mom wouldn’t let me get a driver’s license when I was 16-17 because she was too worried. We had horses though.Reply
huh??? not even from being exposed to heat or anything?? if the solvents were stable in the bottle, why would they combust on the oil rag? they must be chemically reacting to *something* to combust, right?Reply
It's the oil; this happens when oily rags are crumpled up or laid on top of each other. The oil produces heat as it cures and the heat builds up in a pile of rags, causing a fire. This can be prevented be either drying them flat or using a metal trash bin with an airtight lid where there's no oxygen to feed a fire.Reply
oh interesting thanks. just noticed your username btw, how appropriate lolReply
Yeah, you’re right. That person doesn’t know what they’re talking about or has only been exposed to people who don’t know horses well.Reply
You’re the only one who wears their air vest? Which zone are you in, out of curiosity? We all wear air vests. And to be clear, I applaud you for doing so. Any gripe below is directed towards those who are well aware of the equipment, can afford the equipment, and choose not to wear the equipment. Have I ever popped it when trying to turn and burn in a AA 1m jump-off? Nope. Did I ever pop it completely spacing out while trotting/warming up? YUP. But seriously, if you’re riding at a certain level, you should have an air vest. No one judges you for it in the ring. And I know that not everyone is at a very curated show barn. Not everyone has the trainer who works you up to the 1.0 carefully (but we win when we get there, in company). Not everyone has $1K to drop on a vest. But it should be as required as a helmet. And to think, when we were kids, we were out there our velvet coated cardboard “helmets” and wool coats in summer heat.Reply
You might even lose an ear.Reply
Back then it wasn't just the solvents that caused issues. The natural pigments contained elements such as lead, arsenic, mercury, cobalt, and cadmium.Reply
Hahaha, nice one 😆Reply
Oh man this. I always can smell the room is filled with paint fumes when there was a painting class before mine.Reply
The studio manager at the art school i attended absolutely lost her shit on a student who had used spray paint inside a crowded studio that didnt have ventilation for it. I happened to be near the offender and ill never forget her yelling, "you think it's a coincidence that most of your teachers have had cancer?" And then she banned that student from the studio. That was the first time I really thought about it. Almost every art teacher I had ever had, regardless of medium, had experienced cancer or some other health issue. Even "non toxic" art materials becomes toxic if you're around them as much as professional artists ends up being around them. I still use all these materials but I opt for the safer versions and practices. Water based > oil. No turpentine. Avoid using my bare hands to move paint or any other medium. Only spray outside. Avoid colors with cadmium. Store what toxic chemicals i do need in sealed plastic containers. It can be inconvenient and occasionally i notice a quality drop off from the toxic stuff, but I still thank that studio manager from teaching me that lesson early. Maybe it saved my life.Reply
I always just attributed boots for horseback riding to Texas and Rattlesnakes, and everyone else copying the fashion lol.Reply
It’s funny you say that, because cowboy boots are very much their own thing. Traditional English riding boots are knee high with stiff leather and are meant to hug your calves and give you a closer connection to the horse. Cowboy boots are lower rise and less fussy. Back in the day, people used to wear the tall boots without zippers and you often needed to ask for help or to use a boot jack to get them off. Think of a woman’s knee high boot and that’s the historical boot for horseback riding in Europe.Reply
Nicolas Cage in Ghost Rider?Reply
No no no, you're completely confused. We must create motorbikes for horses, train them to operate as hell's angels.Reply
How many on his other hand?Reply
Yeah, I know a couple of horse riders, and the injury toll they rack up is astounding.Reply
Horses kill more people sharks!!Reply
People sharks?!Reply
I wear a Hit-Air vest when I ride and, as I’m sure you know, these vests were first used by equestrians.Reply
Depending on what you're using for paints, some of the solvents and pigments are nasty. This is very dependent on what you're using, though. Some of the pigments and carriers are food safe.Reply
Water-mixable oils are more commercially available now, though they've been around since the 80s. This is what I use as they don't require solvents, which I have a high sensitivity forReply
Yup. I ended up getting one of those metal fire garbage cans for ragsReply
I think it depends on the solvent, they have odorless mineral spirits that you genuinely won’t smell, like gamsol. The flip side of it being odorless is that it still has fumes. So, you don’t get the smell telling you “open a window idiot.” I’ve for sure not ventilated well and been like “lol it’s just gamsol” only to get an irritated throat and dizzy. I’m essentially who this post is about 🫠Reply
similar, and i’m just too messy to do oil painting in a rented home! watercolors are so much easier to clean up and safer around my kitties :)Reply
Is Gamsol dangerous?Reply
they say it's safe but I still react to it 🤷‍♀️ not as bad as regular solvents, i'm not an expert but I don't use it.Reply
Still needs good ventilation. The evaporation rate on gamsol is slower than turpentine, but it's still a solvent that will eventually fully evaporate into the air you breathe - and unlike turps, you can't smell it so the damage really is silent. Same for Liquin; it contains a solvent.Reply
It also reaaaally impacts your knees and ankles. You effectively use them as shock absorbers. Even if you’re one of the lucky few to dodge concussions… Everyone I know who kept doing the work after 25 has knee problems like you wouldn’t believe. I’m talking wearing a brace nearly constantly before thirty, or knee replacements, plural, in people who by all other metrics should be the picture of health for how active they are at their age. Folks who could barely walk under sixty. Ambulation is critical as you get older, especially as you get to falls, surgeries, strokes, etc… and if you stop or struggle with getting up because you cooked your knees, your odds on full recovery from things that may have been fine slowly start to get a lot worse. I got concussions and my knees started to feel a little weird on rare occasions, so I tapped out at 22. I miss it dearly, but there is so much more to life than a very expensive hobby that will also kill me.Reply
My old neighbours used to ride horses. The daughter became a paraplegic and a few years later the mother was killed. I'm never going near a horse again in my life.Reply
At least they have the water mixable ones now! When I went to art school a few yrs ago thats all we usedReply
Well my mother has permanent shoulder issues being thrown from a horse, and my father gave up motorcycles after laying one down and coming to a stop with his head 6 inches from going under the tires of an 18-wheeler. I just avoid both.Reply
Usually it's not the oil paints themselves (except cadmium colors). The solvents (turpentine/mineral spirits) used to mix with oil paints are toxic to breathe in for long periods of time. Even so called safer alternatives are still toxic like odorless mineral spiritsReply
If a baby gave me a concussion I don’t think I’d tell anyone.Reply
Combustible horses already exist [link removed]Reply
sorry to hear thatReply
Thanks. It was such a shock.Reply
Only if you use chemical solvents.Reply
I mean how else are you going to clean your brushes? You need turpentine or mineral spirits. Also a lot of the colors themselves can be toxic. Like cadmium oil paint.Reply
Linseed oil for cleaning your brushes, or some other solvent-free medium. And only buy cadmium, cobalt, flake white (etc) *hues.* The word “hue” in the color’s name indicates that it is merely replicating the color, but does not contain the actual pigment. Purists scoff at them, but they are cheaper and generally non-toxic. There are also water soluble oils if that interests you, but you still have to be aware of the pigments if that concerns you.Reply
As long as the pigments are suspended in the medium there is nothing to worry about. Cadmium will not even be absorbed through your skin. You should be painting using nitrile gloves anyway, it's much cleaner. The only thing that one can worry about is inhaling cadmium dust, and that isn't really a problem. Cadmium and cobalt have exceptional tinting strentghs (red will still be red when you add white), compared to hues, where the tinted colors will quickly fade to the tinting color. They're absolutely worth the money and worth the use.Reply
I wouldn’t saying *nothing* to worry about. I personally don’t use them for the same reason I don’t paint with gloves, which is that I find it wasteful and because great care should be taken to avoid your paint sludge from contaminating the environment. Using those pigments safely and responsibly is extra work that I just don’t want to deal with. As for tinting strength, hues have come a very long way, and depending on the brand, most painters will probably never notice a difference. For example, I mostly paint indirectly, so I’m not mixing with white very often anyways. I also find it useful to sand my paintings, to either rework an area or to scrap a painting entirely and reuse the surface. Using cadmium, cobalt, and flake white makes that process extremely hazardous. Obviously precaution should be taken when sanding anything, but sanding something with toxic heavy metals is a big no-no.Reply
Just plain linseed oil. I’ve never used turpentine.Reply
I clean them using a non-hardening oil. You have to wipe them really well but solvent-less oil painting is possible. But yeah, don't touch the cadmium or cobalt paints. And don't eat or drink in the studio.Reply
I clean my brushes in the sink with Dawn dish soap. I don’t know if it’s good for them long term, but I don’t see reason to get precious with my brushes. I am always careful to thoroughly wash my hands if I’m using the cadmiums, though.Reply
If you are a FREQUENT oil painter, solvent free method to clean brushes is to clean with safflower oil (or any other slow drying oil typical for oil painting such as walnut oil). Since it is slow to dry, it can stay wet for next painting session. 100% agree with you about toxicity of pigments. It is concerning how oil paint can crack overtime. I get neurotic about small paint particles that get releasing into surrounding environment due to cracking.Reply
This, it takes one wrong step or getting your foot caught in a stirrup and you're dead or in a wheelchair. But also concussions, I've been personally quite lucky and often fall on my butt, but the one time I had quite a big concussion, I also managed to land so weird that a tiny part of the transverse process of my neck vertebra. My doctor had me do an X-ray and a CT scan and then said he's never seen anything like it.Reply
My sister-in-law was into doing horse shows. A few years ago when she was selling a horse, she was showing it to the perspective buyer, and it reared up and she fell off, but she got stuck in the stirrup or something, and the horse dragged her with her leg being caught in the ground and drove it into the ground. It was basically hanging off and she had to be airlifted to a hospital and they wanted to amputate it, but she wanted to try to save her leg instead. Three years later after unsuccessfully trying to save her leg she finally had it amputated. At that point, her other leg started having a lot of issues and problems with circulation because she overcompensated on it and this year unfortunately she had to have that second leg amputated as well and now she is a double amputee above the knees. It’s so terrible.Reply
Forgot to open the windows when I was oil painting once. Got so loopyReply
Soft pastels too, without ventilation and a mask for the dust. The fixative is a problem too. Have known multiple older soft pastel artists with severe lung issues from repeated exposure to both pastel dust and the heavy metals in the older compositions.Reply
Well, that's not so much a silent killer. Horses are pretty loud and so are humans that are being trampled.Reply
A coworker of mine was knocked off a horse on a trail (tree partially fallen) and fractured her spleen when she landed. Had internal bleeded. The only reason she lived is that a friend of hers was riding with her, witnessed it, and could call for emergency help.Reply
A family member always wore a helmet when riding. Got thrown down a ravine when the horse spooked. Helmet hit hard. The dent inwards was scary. Had a pretty severe concussion as a result. They had been on horses for 30 years+. You just never know.Reply
I did a lot of horse-riding from I was 8 until I was 21. I stopped when I fell off a horse and bruised a couple of ribs. Not a major injury but it was very painful. My riding school had an outside arena nearby that we used in good weather. I remember watching some people riding there when one horse spooked, jumped, and fell on its rider, who I think broke her leg. I was a teenager but it made a big impression on me.Reply
He was relatively young, and otherwise seemed to be in good health. I do attribute his relatively early onset lymphoma to a lifetime around oil paints, solvents and their vapors, yep.Reply
She should find another painting location. Oil paints have toxic compounds you really don't want getting on your food.Reply
A horse stalking someone across a field and then stomping on them would be extremely unusual behavior that would warrant a full work up by a vet and more than likely a quick trip the knackers. You have to remember that we put down aggressive dogs who injure people. Of course, we do that with a 1000 lbs prey animal.Reply
Ah yes, this is my horse named Pinto for no particular reasonReply
A bike might fall on you is the first thing you think of when comparing horses and motorcycles? The data is exceeding clear motorcycles result in significantly more fatalities per hour ridden than horses. Motorcycles can High side, Low Side, Tank Slap, Crash head on, speed wobble, fishtail, ect at highway speeds or higher and leave you flat out dead. You can be smashed into from behind at stop signs ans red light, t-boned by other cars, catastrophically fail at high speeds due to poor maintenance. I like how you chose the least catastrophic motorcycle injury risk and compared it to a horse chasing you and smashing you Into a fence which is one of the least likely horse riding injuries I've ever heard of. 99% of riders are breaking their own horses, and even those cowboys aren't regularly being chased and smashed into the fence in catastrophic fashion. I'm sure in your mind every horse Injury is a horse chasing you down and headshotting you with a kick to the back of the head, and every motorcycle injury is a 50cc bike tipping over, but an extremely simple online search will put the injury and fatality numbers of horses ans bikes per rider/per hour ridden and it's obvious more people die on bikes. My wife and her family have ridden horses their whole lives, and I've been riding bikes for years in and off, and it's clear you do neither.Reply
It's not very safe for the horses eitherReply
It depends what you’re doing. Cross country eventing, especially as you go up the levels, is the discipline that is really dangerous for both horse and rider. Rotational falls aren’t as much of a concern in dressage. I ride at an eventing barn and even there the trainers talk about having ethical issues with the 4 and 5 star events due to how dangerous it is. And these are serious people within the sport who have been around horses their whole lives.Reply
I only casually follow the horses deaths that follow the Grand National or whatever. I won't get on my high horse (pun absolutely intended), but horse riding at a professional level that leads to horses being executed isn't cool with me. I'm not too bothered about the ~~abusers~~ riders.Reply
That’s generally only an issue with horse racing, unfortunately that equine sport has a lot of money in it so they push horses too far. Most horse riding competitions in other disciplines don’t make the rider money, and there’s no gambling involved. Hence there’s usually more emphasis on horse welfare, if not from the owners side, then from the governing body. I’m really not a fan of horse racing, and I’ve been working with/around horses for nearly 20 years now. It’s just too much exploitation of innocent animals.Reply
Playing RDR2 is also a great way to show how dangerous it is.Reply
Damn, art school and poisoning by gas really doesn't mix, huh?Reply
Literally just saw a guy obviously going through a midlife crisis, wearing cotton knit shorts, converse, and a baseball cap. No helmet, even though we're in a helmet law state. No protective gear of any kind; no jacket with the protective plates on the back and the elbows. Not even a t-shirt. Dude is going to show up on /r/meatcrayon soon. The kicker is that he kept looking around at the people in the other car surrounding him at the stoplight. You could just tell that his interior monologue was something along the lines of, "Oh yeah, you know you all want a piece of this." He was literally running a had over his stomach like what he thought a Chippendale's dancer would do. If he drives much further down the road pieces of him will be the only thing left.Reply
I always wear gloves when doing any type of painting.Reply
Painting in the park got itReply
I’m recently interested in painting. Do I have to concern with Watercolor and Acrylic?Reply
No. Some brands carry colors with cadmium, but this isn't a problem as long as the paint is suspended in liquid form. With watercolor you *might* run the risk of inhaling tiny cadmium particles if you scrape the pan or scratch the surface ... unlikely to happen. Heavy metal paints (cadmium, cobalt, etc) have good tinting strengths: adding lots of white tint to cadmium yellow will still be yellow whereas with other cheaper alternatives (azo yellows PY12, or arylide yellow PY73) will just become white without any sign of yellow. In short: don't worry about it. And don't buy heavy metal paints until you know you need them. For example, cobalt blue or cobalt turquoise are exceptional for producing clear skies, compare this to cerulean which is another expensive pigment but tends slightly towards green. When you do find yourself needing them, just be *aware* of the risks, but don't let it stop you.Reply
You shouldn't have issues. If you're working with heavy metal paints (cadmium/cobalt) avoid breathing those in. Most of the toxicity comes from oil painting solvents.Reply
A master painter I know contracted Parkinson’s recently at 62, likely due to to neurodegenerative properties of the solvents in paint!Reply
RIP Bob Ross :(Reply
Isn't it really bad too for spine health over time?Reply
there's a fine line between "we have immune systems, we can handle etc. etc." and "keep everything as clean as possible because there are chemicals or dangerous inhalants in that". Like I probably bounce between it all the time, I don't give a shit about cleaning up my daughters poopy pants (we're potty training). I wash it in the sink and clean out the sink, wash my hands. When my wife has to do it she'll basically clean out the entire room she had to do the cleaning in, like the bathroom. Then on the other hand we're like so extra with handling other things like the air quality was bad the other day because of the canada fires. We basically didn't go outside at all, turned off AC and ran our hepa air filters. My wife told me not to walk the dogs that day... I probably can go walk the dogs for 10 minutes and be fine, I don't think it's that big of a deal. I know this is completely different than the moss stuff, but I feel like a lot of the time we ignore the stuff we shouldn't and focus on the stuff that doesn't matter as much. I don't know what's what, and I do my best to focus on the most important, but there's just still so much we don't know. At the end of the day it's all gonna be fine. We're pretty resilient.Reply
Not just the fumes, quite a few oil paints have toxic compounds in them. Lead is used in white, cadmium and cobalt is used in several common colors.Reply
I vividly remember the time I was painting in oils (I was about 14 at the time and didn’t take safety too seriously back then) in the little room of our house. No fans or open windows. My brother opened the door to ask me something and next second, blood was *pouring* out of both nostrils before he even had a chance to speak. I took ventilation more seriously after that.Reply
Wow, sorry to hear that. Do you ride?Reply
Of course notReply
"It's all our fault! We set the restaurant on fire!"Reply
But you can't make steaks out of a motorcycle.Reply
Not with that attitude!Reply
Worth noting that this isn't unique to oil painting. For example, cadmium red is toxic whether it's in oil, acrylic, or watercolor. A lot of people think it's inherent to oils.Reply
I just read a story on here today of a woman who was loading her horse into a trailer and it spooked. She got crushed with broken ribs and collarboneReply
Undergrad was microbiology, immunology, molecular genetics. Did a post grad program in clinical lab science. Currently work as a clinical microbiologist in a hospital lab lolReply
> Statistically more dangerous than riding a motorcycle As someone selling his Ducati because he's about to have a baby join the family, and was literally talking about the chance it becomes a "horse kid" (we live in a horsey area), while simultaneously talking about how I'll do everything I can to keep them off motorcycles (I know from experience how dangerous they are)...I may be rethinking things.Reply
No, it’s not true. The problem is a lot of people treat horses like any other pet and don’t know what they’re doingReply
Dunno mate, I hear what you are saying, but it does seem pretty dangerous. In "hours per serious injury", among just about every single other metric I checked, horses come in *way* worse (350 hours per serious injury versus 7000). So I'm inclined to believe it. Only place they aren't that way is in deaths, which would make sense.Reply
And according to a historical UK chief medical officer, more dangerous than taking ecstasy. Time to list horseback riding as a class A drug and ban itReply
life threatening? geez throwing them out nowReply
Holy fucking shit what????? I had no idea this was a thing, i work with terrariums daily. Worse yet ive got asthma and chronic acute bronchitis… am i cooked chat?Reply
I remember being in a painting class in college where we were all mostly noseblind to the turpentine, linseed oil, paint, and gesso fumes. But when someone who *wasn't* a painting student or teacher had to stop by the studio, you could see them turn a sickly shade almost immediately and start trying to finish whatever they came for quickly to get out.Reply
working with compost can fuck your lungs too, if it ya whole job. dunno if the diseases are the same or what, but its insidious thingReply
Goddam what the hell I’d never heard of this before and I have spagham moss totem poles all around my house.Reply
And here's me with a block of Sphagnum moss on a shelf in my bedroom for the past few years waiting for me to do something with it...Reply
Fuck.Reply
I read "nursery workers" and I thought "But why? Is it because a nursery has a lot of flowe... oh, THAT kind of nursery!"Reply
Rose Gardner's Disease reminds me of a cluster of patients with CJD. They shared rose gardening as a hobby. Initially, researchers found a commonality of using bone meal on plants but I believe that was proven wrong as the origin. I don't know if they ever nailed the true culprit.Reply
David Austin had CJDReply
I did gel nails at home a few times, but then one day my fingers were so sensitive and swollen underneath the nails that I had to go to the ER and get antibiotics. This was in May. My nails are still damaged and swollen slightly underneath and they're still healing, I'm honestly scared my nails will never be back to normal.Reply
Check out The Salon Life on YouTube abd Dazzle Dry polish. Completely changed my nail game.Reply
I have a bunch of beetles gel polish and a beetles UV lamp……. I’m glad I read these comments because I didn’t know any of this but it also sucks because I spent so much money on these polishes and UV lamp that I’m now too scared to use. :(Reply
You might not be comfortable using it on your nails, but you still have art supplies!Reply
I guess so lol.Reply
Yeah beetles gave me a reaction with their black. I guess with gel, different colors cure with different UV settings. Black wouldn't cure with the lamp that came with it. Also I'm dumb and didn't use SPF and I have sun spots on my hands now. I didn't even use the kit very many times because of the reaction I would get to darker colors. Now I have old lady hands.Reply
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Start playing fiddle. She’ll be begging you to go back to that banjoReply
She plays the fiddleReply
If you play the fiddle wrong enough, you'll be invited to orchestra halls.Reply
oh dang is that why my face gets red right after I put on sunblock? I know I'm sensitive to Sodium Lauryl Sulfate so have to avoid that in any hair, skin or oral hygiene products.Reply
omg i'm so sorry yikes! i knew it could cause dermatitis but had no idea it would be a bloody months-long pain. i assume/hope you are fine now, besides the possible future reactions <3Reply
.... Make sure you let all dentists you see know that you have this allergy. It can be really dangerous in a dental setting.Reply
Recently I got back into doing my nails again, and accidentally picked up a gel polish instead of a regular lacquer when shopping magnetic formulas. I've been too afraid to try application, and all of these comments just reinforced why that is.Reply
thanksReply
This was the most adorable conversation and I'm happy I read itReply
Take care of your joints, because there may be a good chance you can't get joint replacements.Reply
I recently watched a video about this. Something about getting it in your skin combined with not drying completely. I break out sometimes and haven’t had color for months now and my skin is calming downReply
Just wow! They frown at salons to pay the extra $10-15 for the gel, “it lasts longer”. Probably what they said to those radon girls when they were painting their nails with it. lol you never know it could be worse than even what you’re saying. Hopefully not.Reply
I randomly developed an allergy to contact lenses. It suuuuucked. Had nothing to do with nails: I just have allergies to *everything*. But it sucked to suddenly be forced back to wearing glassesReply
You'll have to check ingredients but someone over at r/redditlaqueristas probably knows. Edit, fixed the subReply
what about cured/semi-cured gel nail wraps? (the peel and stick ones)Reply
I've often found myself being the person to do this. Whether it's people blasting 200 decibel music at 2am on a work night, or (when I was at uni) other students talking over the lecturer, I'm the guy who schleps themselves over and [Lurches]([link removed] at them until they shut the hell up. I'm not above delivering a long-as-it-takes lecture on the spot about the number of people they're causing problems for, either. Or, in a number of neighborhood noise cases, having zero compunctions about calling the cops on them. Or, sometimes, their real estate agents.Reply
Okay this is one I genuinely had not ever heard of, thank you for sharing thisReply
On a related note, [[link removed]Reply
Dude, most people really don't understand how incredibly loud banjos can be. They're quite literally one of the loudest string instruments.Reply
I’ve got 3 banjos. 2 of them are resonators and one of them is a proper master tone style. It’s sooooo loud and heavy. I practice all the time with a mute on it because it’d drive my neighbours insaneReply
Yep! I no longer can use gel on my fingers, but can on my toes. I found that polishes without hema works for me and doesn't cause me to break outReply
>Sounds like it would suck to develop an allergy and never be able to use gel polish again, right? Well, it’s even worse… a lot of medical products and devices like dental fillings and contact lenses, as well as many other cosmetics, contain those same acrylates that you’re now allergic to. Yay! what the hell? but why would the gel polish specifically cause the allergy and not all the other stuff you come into contact with?Reply
These are some she made last football season for her Rugby League club (team colours are purple and white, though navy blue and gold make regular appearances). She spends the off season making a bunch (also has some for Christmas and New Years, some just random florals etc) that way if she feels like wearing some she can flip through her booklet and decide. Also means her natural nails get a break. [nails]([link removed]Reply
Looks like we found their wife trying for a Hitman-style murder.Reply
What higher-end gel did you end up testing with? I wanna see if this is the case for me as well.Reply
Gelish and OPI. No issues with either. The reaction I had was to Beetles brand from AmazonReply
ME TOO IT SENT ME INTO A HELLISH FRENZY OF MANY MONTHS LONG DERMATITIS!!!! Now cheap nail glue will cause me to react.Reply
It always seems to be that brand. It really should be banned!Reply
Thank you! I'm pretty sure Beetles is what gave me a reaction, too. Have you tried DND? I gave that brand a shot and had a reaction to it, too, unfortunately. Despite it being on the higher end.Reply
Yes!!!! I actually did the bleach thing too lmao. Live and learn. My hair is all grown out and no bleached parts exist on me any longer. I have a half an inch to go on my nails before they are completely free from the filing and gluing damage. Maybe even less than that.Reply
Girl same. 40 Vol straight onto the scalp! Have had more than one chemical haircut in my days… we live and we (hopefully) learn!Reply
I actually had accidental bleach overlap when trying to refresh my money piece (which grows in white anyways mostly) and yeah... chemical haircut!Reply
Be careful you don't get bagpiper's lung! (Yes, that is a thing!)Reply
Is it when your neighbor finally gets fed up and stabs you in the lung?Reply
From mold spores in the bag when it never gets cleaned. It causes a pneumonitis and chronic cough.Reply
I had no idea about this and bought gel nail supplies a while back, fortunately they’re too fiddly for me and I’m too impatient for them so I gave up actually using them after just two attempts and I’m definitely not getting them back out now lolReply
"A gentleman is a man who knows how to play the banjo, and yet doesn't." (Johnny Madsen)Reply
> Making pottery can also be dangerous. Misread this as "Making poetry can also be dangerous" Made me snort milk through my noseReply
I’m sorry. I didn’t know poetry could do that!Reply
Banjo, bagpipes, resonator guitar, drums, any brass. The "fuck my neighbours" quintet.Reply
Yeah, me too. No more SNS, eyelash glue, setting spray, etc.Reply
The gel was supposed to be a protective style but I guess not😭Reply
Just great marketing unfortunately - we were all lied to and are still lied to by Big Gel - it’s no different from acrylic in the end. If your nails are being sanded, it doesn’t matter if it’s gels or acrylics. The process is highly destructive no matter what’s going on top. A good clear strengthening basecoat is a great protector for our natural nails (water, stains, splits, etc) along with daily oiling to keep cuticles healthy and nails strong. It’s truly all you need! My PSA for this thread: Whether it’s acrylics, gels, or dips, ALL require sanding the top layers away which thins our nails and destroys them…………. And then we cover them with toxic acrylates or Toluene (causes neurological issues) or DNP (an endocrine disrupter) that are absorbed into the nail bed, then we smash UV light onto that suffering nail bed to ‘cure’ those chemicals…………. And then we soak them in acetone and do some more sanding to remove them and prepare the nail bed for yet another application - and we wonder why are nails are splitting and bending and painful and never recover!Reply
Wtf!? They sand your nails down before gel/acrylic? Why?Reply
Yeah man it’s wild when you stop to think about it. It removes the naturally protecting oils from the top layers that would prevent acrylate or gel adherence, it removes any ridges or unevenness for more uniform application, and most importantly it opens up the dead keratin fibres so that the acrylate or gel can penetrate better and take a firm hold, and therefore last til you need infills.Reply
Form an entire band! The neighborhood is sure to love it!Reply
Does this apply to non-UV-cure "gel-like" things like OPI Gel Plump Effect top coat?Reply
As far as I know, those are fine as they are just a marketing gimmick. I think it is only the ones that need to be cured with a lamp.Reply
Oh WOW, I had no idea. Is it just the type that you have to cure with a UV light, or normal gel polishes like these too? [link removed]Reply
Just the ones that need a UV lamp. These Sally Hansen ones are more of a "gel effect" designed to look like gel polish but they're actually just regular lacquer. Real gel have opaque bottles because they can't be exposed to UVReply
Whew! Thanks for confirmingReply
Well, throwing away all the bottles I gave my daughter.Reply
Don’t forget the risk of neighbors beating you too. I however enjoy the banjo.Reply
But that is the duality of some hobbies. It is also prophylactic in prevention of sexually transmitted diseaseReply
Gary Larson [had it right]([link removed]Reply
I blame the lyrics most people come up with, while playing a banjo.Reply
Is this true of the semi-cured gel stickers as well? Or is it just liquid gel polish that is a danger to skin and nails?Reply
What it is about gel polish specifically that causes contact dermatitis and why things like contact lenses and dental fillings don't?Reply
Just gave myself this with a UV glue for glue on nails. Had to get on a steroid.Reply
Funny thing is Airbag technology was invented in the equestrian space but rarely adopted. Yet you see them often by motorcyclist and have saved the lives of two people I know.Reply
My neighbours started smoking weed indoors. I'm pretty chill, not going to be a snitch or anything, but I did get back into playing the saxophone.Reply
I saw a guy get hit with a banjo once, and he went down!Reply
Tch. Banjo Splatterson.Reply
But then they’d be at risk of developing bagpipe lung.Reply
I play banjo AND Irish whistle. :DReply
I break out in hives from sunscreens, even the “natural” ones though it seems. You gave me some food for thought.Reply
This is exactly how I expect Steve Martin to die.Reply
I've had it too. Started with at-home dip powder actually and I'm sure it's poor quality liquids not the powder. I switched to UV gel from Amazon and got a horrendous multi finger dermatitis reaction. Now I get it even with nail glue. I can use regular nail polish just fine and I do still. I don't think it's the acrylates because I can get my nails done with high quality stuff and be fine.Reply
Could you post the link, or drop the name of the song? I feel like my neighbors may not have been lucky enough to experience it yet.Reply
I'd say water based house paints are pretty common nowadays, no? Also generally healthier and better for the environment. Edit: I was wrong.Reply
Water based paints are acrylic latex. They are emulsion based solutions suspended in water.Reply
Ah TIL! Thanks for remimding me that truly everything contains plastic nowadays.Reply
Ever since I got my nails done with those longer fake acrylic nails my nails have been really fucked up. I first got them done a couple years ago. Now all my nails are super bendy, I can basically sometimes “clip” my nails by just tearing the nail part off (not the whole nail), sometimes when I’m scratching something my nails will almost like give out in a way and just bend instead of staying straight. Also idk why but whenever I have to do the uv stuff where you put it under the light. It burns my skin and nails.Reply
I guess you survived, but in the spirit of this post - cat bites are filthy puncture wounds. If it draws even a tiny amount of blood you need antibiotics and a trip to the ER. They can turn life or limb within hours.Reply
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You know why there are no banjos in Star Trek??Reply
What would you say the odds are of her using your own banjo as her chosen implement?Reply
She might not kill you outright, but she might cut your banjo string!Reply
Please do a cover or tutorial on how to play "you ominously end" by arms length. You'd be a cult hero with us fansReply
Picturing the Animal House scene. [link removed]Reply
Always ready for a banjo moment, though.Reply
I hope she does it with the banjoReply
And now I'm doubling down on my refusal to get gel at the nail salon even though they always grumble about it. Regular polish it is.Reply
You can get HEMA / TPO free gel polishes, which is what I started with, but it's frankly a dangerous hobby. I do it VERY sparingly, just if I want strong protected nails for a few weeks. The HEMA free rubber base ones I use do NOT last as long as regular gel though. It's also another dangerous one due to fumes and dust - I bought a nail drill fairly recently and it's amazing but I realised super dangerous without some sort of mask.Reply
The joke is spousal abuse.Reply
Damn and here I am as a horserider who also wants a bike 😅Reply
Considering some banjo jokes I've heard....yeah murder is a real possibility. For example: What do you call 4 banjo players at the bottom of the river? ...A good start. Edit to add: I rather like banjo and have been known to make a racket with one on occasion.Reply
I just wanted to say that I love the use of ‘civilians’ here 😆Reply
I knew about the dental fillings but not the contact lenses. That’s the deal breaker, I guess Ill have to resell my $200 Kokoist lamp :(Reply
The risk of falls and other accidental injuries is also huge.Reply
Get a standing desk or take more frequent breaks to move aroundReply
and this is why it's so easy to lie to people.Reply
Chances are you'll be fine. Even when people worked with asbestos, it was only something like 10-20% succumbed to it. While it's possible to get cancer from a one off exposure, it's the exception rather than the norm. Scary waiting game though, as I think I've had a couple of exposures in the course of my work.Reply
You sound like a really interesting person tho, wanna be friends?? I’m a sewist/gamer/cross stitcher/crocheter :)Reply
They do sell lead free solder at least.Reply
Old school guys prefer using lead stillReply
Increasing muscle mass can actually contribute to tendonopathy. Progressively heavier isometric exercises are a crucial part of a fitness routine to strengthen your tendons while growing muscle.Reply
Yep, I have tendonitis in multiple areas, but it's the worst in my knees. I was sedentary and very weak, which meant my tendons were picking up the slack. At my worst, I couldn't even drive without intense pain. I would lie in bed at night and cry because everything hurt all the time. The thing that saved me was starting Pilates in a group class at the local gym. I failed at every single one of the exercises but kept with it, and started to build lean muscle and core strength slowly over time. And with that, most of the pain subsided as my muscles let my tendons relax. Today I'm a Pilates instructor. But you know what? Those tendons in my knees are hurting a little bit right now as I sit in bed. Not enough to make me cry, but it's a permanent reminder if where I was just a few years ago.Reply
Almost the same storyReply
This reminds me I was scolded by my opthalmologist for having eye strain; they suggested "giving your eyes a break" every hour from hyper staring at screens and not blinking or changing focus from some flat screen (for the record, I don't, but seems solid advice)Reply
Yeah just looking out at a window from time to time helps. Since I only have vision in one eye, it also strains faster so I have to be more aware of it. It's good advice, but again it feels like we are ignoring the elephant in the room: too much time looking at the same thing.Reply
My cats assist me tremendously in doing this.Reply
On the other hand, it looks like every other hobby will permanently destroy your lungs.Reply
What's the training program?Reply
At the moment I'm just doing lots of isometric holds. Specifically the Mcgill Big 3. Stuff that is suppose to build deep core strength and avoid using main power muscles. I'm pretty much in constant muscle fatigue and tightness. So these exercises are suppose to teach my body that the main muscles can relax if the core handles more of the load. That's the idea. At the moment I'm not seeing progress, just trying to stick with what I'm told to do by my PT and orthopedic doctor.Reply
Don’t give up, I found those exercises a great place to start but eventually realized I was getting stuck in a loop of low intensity PT exercises and wasn’t seeing my mobility increase or pain decrease after years of on and off PT. After some digging it turns out that general exercise (cardio, weight training, sports, etc etc) is shown to be as effective as just about any other intervention. Dialing one specific muscle up or down is sort of an 80s era dogma, and you can get stuck fixating on what’s still too weak or if you are managing your body correctly. The body knows what to strengthen if you put progressive demands on it, basically. Finding a movement that you find fun or energizing, progress from low level upward, and accept the discomfort of building overall strength back. The loop can be broken!!Reply
I appreciate you saying this. I'm about 2 months into a journey of figuring out how to heal my back. It's plagued me for years and now getting way worse. I'm starting slow with these isometric holds but I'm also currently preparing for the LBA program. "Low Back Ability". A training program that does exactly what you're talking about. Slow progressions of actually using your back muscles instead of avoiding them because of past flareups. So many people stuck in infinite stretching and low movement exercises. I'm not yet started but it's the only thing I feel pulling me out of a depression that my back is done and I'm going to lose more and more mobility. Im prepared to train my back and take it very slow.Reply
The avoidance thing is so real. It’s what keeps the back weak creating the conditions for more flare ups whenever there is a minor demand. And teaches the brain to keep protecting and amplifying any pain. Crazy thing I found was that activities (long steep hikes, walking 10 miles on pavement in a day, cycling for hours) that I *absolutely* would never attempt at home because they’d be guaranteed to easily trigger my back…I’d take a really cool trip somewhere and realize I’d done those things without pain somehow. Weird halo effect that helped me factor in how much my avoidance tendencies were contributing.Reply
44 here, many major disc flare ups over the years. i almost did microdiscectomy last year but surgeon talked me out of it, asking me to give exercise one last try. i went thru 3 months of pf PT to get to the point where i could do some squats. lifting minor weight, doing squats, was key for me to be here now, almost pain freeReply
Love to hear this. I'm told it takes time. But hearing that you are actually improving your situation through exercise is what I want to hear. It just gets discouraging at times. Like I'm taking things so slow but I did just a 30 min swim, nothing crazy, and today my knees hurt so bad I can barely walk. My muscle imbalance can cause me to unknowingly overwork muscles that are already tight. Pulls my knee out of it's track.Reply
i had to stop swim as well. PT told me I must "unlock" my hips before doing any other exercises... to me it seemed counter intuitive... but I followed her instructions and focused exclusively on hip mobility my last flare up was in November, and id guess that early July was when i really felt pain free... good luck to you! hang in thereReply
afaik FFP2 won't filter asbestos ; for an asbestos-ridden visit go for FFP3.Reply
Eh, you sound like a happy soul, enjoy it! Maybe burpees during loading screens while gaming?Reply
I have a health condition that makes burpees unadvisable, and I’ve never been so happy to be told I can’t do something.Reply
That's crazy. My least favorite range experience is when homie next lane brought a semi auto shotgun to the indoor range and proceeds to rearrange my guts for the next half hour.Reply
So it's safe to eat as long as I paint it white first, got it.Reply
Went from gaming to golfing and I have an office job. My hip flexors are not happy everReply
dont forget pets !Reply
Crazy cause all you need to do is 5 body weight squats per half hour and it essentially negates the bad effects of sitting. It’s so easy to moveReply
Would being an avid reader fall into this category. I don't read as much since I had kids, but I could sit all day reading if I had nothing else to do. Of course since literacy is in such a shambles in the U.S., I doubt anybody would say sitting and reading all day is bad or a sedentary activity, that kids shouldn't be doing.Reply
As with everything, dose makes the poison. Sitting and reading all day would be just as bad for the eyes and body as gaming all day. Everything in moderation/consideration is the wayReply
I'm teaching myself stained glass, it's been fun but very much a PPE hobby. Didn't wear anything while grinding, wondered why my eyes were blurry. Flux/patina eats at the little cuts on my fingers, gloves all the way. Today I burned my finger trying to grab a bit I was soldering on the hand that's only got nitrile.Reply
oh wow, not a hobby I thought about but damn with those glass shards and glass dust!Reply
I'll chime in on this to say ANY form of glass making. Hot glass/flame working/stained glass/fused glass all carry risks of silicosis. Most also carry a variety of different fumes that aren't ideal to breathe, hot glass is probably the worst but I'd rank stained glass a close 2nd especially if doing kiln fired enamel work. Furnace workers are very often also the maintenance workers for the equipment which is a whole other ballpark of nasty toxic materials.Reply
lol…. I have tendinitis in like 6-7 joints. 75% of it is from dance and the other 25% is from caring for my child. I got “mommy thumb” in both wrists when he was a newborn, I’ve got it in my shoulder now that he’s a toddler. One achilles from starting pointe to young, both hips from just years of strain. And one knee from ???? but that one comes and goes. My dad is really prone to it too, clearly there’s genetics involved.Reply
Omg Mommy thumb is so painful! I got it in both as well, as my baby was massive but also getting the car seat in and out of the car I think wrecked them. Did you end up getting the cortisol shots? I got them in both and twice in my right wrist, the relief has been incredible but I know the pain might come back eventually…Reply
Doing soemthign physical as a job during the day would be perfect for you with those hobbies.Reply
VR would even be better, you can get a half decent workout from the right gamesReply
Dude … I feel like a lot of people are sleeping on thrill of the fight 2, the game is high intensity and awesome for cardio BUT it requires general calisthenics as a secondary just to get better at the gameReply
I was always worried I'd ruin my controllers with all the sweat from that gameReply
This is one of my fears. I spent a lot of time during my 20’s exploring bando and often wonder what effects it will have on my health later on.Reply
Sewing has a condition called dowagers hump from always being bent over.Reply
I do seed bead weaving and small metal smithing as a hobby and my wrists and hands are FUCKEDReply
Doing *anything* too long can mess you up bad, really. The human body is meant to walk and climb and jump and sit and get up and move move move.Reply
Am a gamer, crafter and in chronic pain. Today,, my back was screaming at me while I was soldering my latest glass works. Keep moving, stretch and you'll be better offReply
Welp... That's it. It's all over, had a good run. CAD designer by day, gamer by night. Weekends consisting of painting, guitar, and movie night. I will disintegrate from sedantry and repetitive strain!Reply
A buddy of mine has only been shooting for like 4 years, already has elevated lead levels....Reply
Talk to him about lead hygiene though I hope he's already well aware.. D Lead wipes are great. D Lead even makes a laundry detergent if you want to keep your range clothes isolated.Reply
Yeah I think he's pretty hip on what to do, just didn't realize it was already causing him trouble, I'll pass on the D-lead wipes. Thanks!!!Reply
Is the lead exposure from the primer chemistry? My understanding is that the metallic lead in the bullets isn't really a source of possible lead poisoning, unless, i suppose, if you're shooting steel targets at close range and the wind is blowing aerosolized lead back at your face.Reply
The primer and the bullet. When you're dealing with the temps and pressures of exploding a metal object 1000 feet per second, you're getting vaporization of particulates. It's what you breathe in and if you're bad at hygeine then you might carry residue on your person that makes its way into your membranes (ie don't eat food while shooting...)Reply
My father is a sniper. You forgot the hearing damage.Reply
De Quervain's tenosynovitis, or "texter's thumb" is becoming more common with the repetitive motion of texting/gaming.Reply
I slept where my arm fell off the side of the bed, but I was on my back so it just kinda floated there hyper extended... whenever it happens my elbow is a bit sore for a while and the first time you bend it when you wake up feels like you're breaking glass in your elbow... But it happened like three nights in a row to me, and now I have chronic tennis elbow from it. Carrying the trash out to the curb, picking up my kids, lifting up a box. fuckin hell everything hurts. It's been like this for *six weeks now*. I'm resting it, icing it, immobilizing it when I can, but it's my right elbow. Not really something I can just give up for weeks on end. This super sucks.Reply
>I'm resting it, icing it, immobilizing it when I can Contrary to popular belief, those aren't helpful for rehabbing tendons. You need to do isometrics, to force collagen turnover and begin the healing process.Reply
Do you recommend it? I love boxing VR so i'm curious how the switch equivalent isReply
I got the Fist of the North Star version last week, was on sale for 10 bucks (DLC another 5 bucks). For that price, totally worth it. It is absolutely zany, easily the most Japanese game I own, and I mean that in the best way. You will feel like Goku, except instead of searching for Dragon Balls, you're fighting for... exercise? I mean that's basically all there is in terms of plot lol. The trainers are also *egregiously* fit in the most unrealistic anime way, saying the most anime shit you could ask for, which is funny and honestly keeps me smiling through the intense workouts. One thing it does surprisingly well is the gamification of it all. You're constantly getting points to buy new trainers, outfits, songs etc. You don't need any of it, but (like I said, surprisingly) it keeps me coming back for more. One potential con worth mentioning, it really only uses the switch controller's motion sensor, so you aren't necessarily aiming at anything (like I assume you would be in VR), and you can totally cheat the system if you start getting lazy. You won't be penalized for punching normally instead of an uppercut, and it has no way of telling if you're even standing vs sitting. All that to say, you'll get out of it what you put into it, so don't expect it to hold you accountable if you're giving less than 100%.Reply
Or drumming on clone hero / yargReply
Yeah, I think either CO or nitrogen gas has a tendency due to density to sink below the oxygen and push all the breathable air up and out. I know it's not CO2 because you would feel yourself suffocating from that. But yeah, that's a really common scenario: person goes into enclosed space, loses consciousness and doesn't come out. Second person goes in to investigate, doesn't come out. Etc. You probably wouldn't think of the danger if you're not trained in that kind of rescue. It's a big part of why they're so dangerous, since people get killed quietly.Reply
Standing still isn't all that healthy. Just ask all those cashiers in the USA who aren't allowed to sit down during shifts.Reply
But what makes you think I just stand there completely still?Reply
...admittedly, thinking about it, I suppose it *is* possible you use the desk while also playing Dance Dance Revolution. Or assuming yoga poses. Or... doing jumping jacks? You're right. I shouldn't have assumed. My apologies.Reply
Walking pads are a thing, I get \~15k steps a day cause I walk while playing games :PReply
I'm gonna wear a plague doctor mask around my kitchen just in caseReply
I ziplocked a new loaf of bread yesterday and inhaled a lot of flour so I'm pretty sure I'll be dead withing 24 hoursReply
I’m really not trying to be an ass, but you’re surprised that your friends who spend over 40 hours a week playing video games are in worse physical shape than your friends that don’t?Reply
Not OP, but I don’t think they said they were surprised by it? Just said it was scary to see.Reply
That’s not really a *silent* killer…Reply
It is if you shoot with a suppressor!Reply
You can always get arrested and prosecuted for urban exploration too. An arrest and criminal record is something that can definitely lower the quality of the rest of your life.Reply
One of the best habits I got into was always doing 30 minutes of exercise at lunch time. I usually go for a brisk walk. Among other things, no matter what else happened that day I can think okay at least I got some exercise.Reply
Intense crafting?Reply
I started embroidery because my hands are messed up anyway. I figured it might be a fun way to practice fine motor skills, and keep track of how capable my hands really are.Reply
I was \*in\* this community for a while a few years ago. The two people I went with are big into exploring, and they both have gained some traction where I live. But, all I can think is how they have both been to hundreds of places with little to not protection. I’m outta that crowd now, but the amount of times I went and nobody wanted to wear protection but me was staggering. Just bandanas to hide faces.Reply
Welp I need to take more breaks whilst cross stitching.Reply
the only hobbies allowed are working out at the gym, eating fiber and hydratingReply
I’m a gamer for hobby and a musician playing mandolin and this all checks out I have to remind myself to get up and stretch and/or takes days off from hobbies to work out 😞Reply
Yeah…the gaming one is particularly destructive because the fun/entertainment value is almost equivalent to having a drug addiction… as a life long enthusiast of both it dawned on me in my late 30s “hey these are kind of the same!”Reply
This is why I pretty much gave up gaming, not to mention chance of blood clots if you are sitting still for all that time.Reply
Also a lot of those places are dangerous. Not really my thing but I did do it once with some friends. A year later my cousin and his mates goes to the same place and one of his friends fell and is now paralysed at the ripe old age of 17Reply
Should be top comment so people don’t need to scrollReply
I see Asbestos warning signs everyday at work. I know it probably won’t harm me while it’s in the wall, but it still freaks me out sometimes.Reply
Amen that what I have. 3 back surgeries and a neck surgery. It has definitely changed my life for the worse.Reply
*office jobs looking nerviously, trying not to be seen*Reply
We need more responses so we can continue scrolling! This is great stuff!Reply
Watching tv is not a hobby.Reply
If tv isn’t then gaming, movies, and reading aren’t eitherReply
I'd also imagine there's a good chance you can get trapped debris of unmaintained/collapsing buildings.Reply
Does the performance aspect of instrument playing wreak havoc on your nervous system? I think that could be an explanation for a few conditions that I haveReply
Haha I sew, play guitar, and game. Fortunately I also do an hour of yoga almost every day to undo the sewing and gaming positions. Also run and liftReply
You can do both by playing rhythm gamesReply
Good news is that it's so easy to counter - you spend an hour or so each day being properly active, visit a physio regularly to make sure you're doing ok? You'll be fine. But so many people never do those things :/Reply
That and the abundant run ins with ghosts, as Youtube videos seem to indicate.Reply
+1 on digital art. I have an ordinary job and do comissions on the side. My shoulder, neck and back are wrecked and it is true the pain scales up really hard and when you notice you are fucked it is already too late. I also have been going to the gym quite regularly and that didn't stop the pain from appearing, although I am doing better with specific exercises.Reply
Don’t forget your eyesight with crafting, especially sewingReply
Years of typing for a job and knitting from a hobby have given me wear and tear in my hands and wrists to the point where I'm always in pain even pulling clothes on or picking up cups even in my early 30s. :(Reply
I have cerebral palsy and fibromyalgia and arthritis and all that good stuff. I will always have chronic pain because I’ve lived my entire life with only the right side of my body being of use to me. I wouldn’t trust my left hand to put a teabag in a cup. Anyway I have all the hobbies you mention and I move and shift so much because, pardon my French , the fucking pain when I’m fully still is not worth it. … Yes I have a physiotherapist, I take an opioid along with several more medications. I have such dark humour that I have a bingo card on what is most likely to kill me first.Reply
It's all about balance. If you move a lot, rest for a bit every once in a while. If you sit a lot, move for a bit every once in a while.Reply
Depending on how close you go and how long it's not that dangerous. But bring proper equipment with you to check your exposure.Reply
These guys definitely do not bring proper equipment. They tried to use a fish bowl, bike pump, and garbage bags as a scuba suit.Reply
man, seriously. I stopped competing because I always promised myself I would only do it for 5 years because I started at a later age and didn't want to risk screwing mental health. I really miss it, but the concussion risk just isn't worth it. I still train, and occasionally do heavy sparring, but not getting in the ring again.Reply
Well, strikes to the head. I practiced wing chun for years with no padding and we just focused on learning to block properly and I was very rarely hit in the head. But those heavy collision sports are another thing entirely. American football is just a meat grinder and should honestly not be played in schools.Reply
More like a get poor quick schemeReply
The wrists have an exercise routine of sorts.Reply
NGL going there is kinda on my bucket list. Not sure if they still give out tours though, with the war and all. As much as it would be fun I wouldn't want to go off the regular tour though. Imagine you could get in serious trouble if caught and getting in trouble in a foreign country is no joke. The radiation will be the least of your concerns.Reply
When I went years back, radiation was something like 18th on the list of top 20 risks we'd be facing lolReply
Could you elaborate on the other risks? I'm genuinely curious.Reply
From what I recall it was things like ticks, bears, wolves, dangerous driving, open holes to fall in, dangerous buildings etcReply
I live in Florida and knew someone hooked into the cave diving circuit in the 90s and 2000s. I got to meet and hang out with many of the top people. Most of them died in caves, usually while trying to recover the body of someone who already died.Reply
Years ago a friend of mine put his exercise bike in front of the TV. He dropped a bunch of weight from pedaling for several hours every night while playing football games on his console.Reply
I remember seeing a post where a guy played games of Civilization with his keyboard and mouse on a sheet of plywood set on top of the handrails of a treadmill. Wasn't even set to a fast speed, he was walking the whole time.Reply
There's a DDR episode of InterventionReply
I honestly can't believe my knees aren't shot from decades of dancing gamesReply
It can be a hobby. It depends on whether you're in it primarily to experience the game or to grow your money. For example, I've met people who play poker for whom it's definitely a hobby. The goal isn't to get out there and turn your $50 into $500, but rather to have fun playing cards and maybe make some money and maybe lose some money. I'd say the rule of thumb is that, if you can walk away after losing and still feel like you had a good time, then it's in hobby territory for you.Reply
Poker is a fair game against other players. Slots/blackjack/sports betting ("gambling") are stacked against the player and designed to addict you and take your money. People of course do get addicted to poker as well, but it's way less common in my experience. I've never seen someone crying that they're betting away their rent at the poker table - you see that shit all the time at the blackjack table.Reply
It's funny you mention blackjack, because that one can *also* be a hobby, and one with some skill needed to be good at it. Look up card counting(the traditional methods where you count in your own head, not cheats where you're wearing a camera and have someone with a computer in your ear). The casinos don't like it(as it cuts into their profit), but it's a great brain workout. This just strikes me as a weird dichotomy to draw, that either things are hobbies and good and wholesome or they are addictive schemes that are bad. Plenty of hobbies are no good for you if taken to excess(one can argue *any* hobby, even), and gambling is the same way.Reply
"oh wow, you're almost level 92 in everything, guess that means you'll be done grinding levels soon"Reply
Yeah, in the same way I wouldn’t describe drinking, heroin or cocaine as a “hobby”.Reply
This is why I don't understand how Power Slap is treated like a legitimate sport by anybody. It's just intentional brain injury. At least with combat sports like boxing and MMA you could argue that the point is to try and not get punched in the head (even though it's bound to happen), but concussive strikes to the head are the necessary beginning, middle, and end of Power Slap.Reply
Imagine beating your loved one because your sportball team didn't win a game, wtf?Reply
I've been told that slot-machine addicts actually get annoyed when they win, because it disrupts the rhythm of the game.Reply
I read it was worse when they winReply
Why give your ex half your stuff when you can die a horrible death, and leave them with everything?Reply
Can confirm. Been trying to correct wrist tendonitis for a while now. The flare ups are incredibly painful. If there's something I can pass onto the younger generations, it's this: use wrist supporting Velcro straps, stretch your wrists and forearms, and do some form of exercise your fingers, wrists, and forearms.Reply
3-5% body weight wrist curls/extensions 15-30 reps, 3 sets 6 days a week. Once or twice a day depending on how you handle it. If you’ve had it for a while work on chronic pain sensitization. This worked for me. I got fcu tendinitis from aim training in fps games.Reply
I’ll start on this one lokReply
I think it’s CTE now, but if I somehow end up with it, I’ll be calling it dementia pugilistica bc that sounds way cooler. That is, if the CTE isn’t too bad for me to rememberReply
CTE? I believe that. Dementia pugilistica, which is indeed way cooler, is probably a case of a condition being named after the first group of people who first presented with it. Kind of like how barotrauma ("the bends") was originally called "caisson's disease", in the 19th century. Because it was only happened to caisson workers. I think dementia pugilistica is latin for "the damaged minds of men who fight with their fists".Reply
Dumb me not doing warm up enough as i always done it before, my old ages now catch up with me, visited Orthopedic few days ago for muscle sprain...Reply
I’ve seen high level players kinda just shuffling their heels and toes towards the arrows and being ridiculous good. I found out this is because new players often stomp the pads and give themselves shin splints lol.Reply
Yeah but there are almost no accessible hobbies that involve exercise that are welcoming to men who are already overweight and do not have an existing friend group that does said activity.Reply
IIRC they get the same amount of dopamine from losing as from winning. The addiction is from the stakes themselves. Winning doesn't even factor into it.Reply
I gamed too much as a teenager and I started to get sharp pains in my wrists/arm before I even hit 20. I started doing arm/wrist exercises and I don't have these pains anymore. I have a tight lower back and any exercise I can feel my stiff back. Starting to stretch back and it's helping. If you game a lot, highly recommend you stretch arms, wrists, and back. It has done wonders for me. Do it before, after, and/or in between games.Reply
Not really silent. I don't think anyone would be surprised to hear someone died from cancer after going to Chernobyl and swimming there.Reply
I'm afraid this is meReply
Getting up out of bed doesn't count as a deadlift. Just ask my own doctor...Reply
Yep I did this during the pandemic playing Call of Duty search and destroy. Exercise in between rounds and games.Reply
Ha!, you are the embodiment of the "I do one push-up" meme.Reply
Some people do think of it as a hobby. Especially if it’s sports gamblingReply
Time to redownload it... After a few mins my left shoulder just dies due to tireness...Reply
Gambling is so crazy to me cause I tried a slot machine once and I thought it sucked but when it's fake gambling without money in video games I like it, I think it's ADHD-relatedReply
I absolutely don’t understand gambling on things like slot machines and stuff. Betting on the outcome of a sports game or horse races, does seem more legit (except contributing to cruelty of racing animals)Reply
I saw that reel of the old people in the slots competition and I was just like how????Reply
I agree, although I don't even like video game gambling unless it can be played at advantage. Maybe this is also why you like video game gambling? Although even with advantage play I still don't really care for it much.Reply
I try to walk on my treadmill after hours of gaming but i know that's not enough...the problem is that I have ADHD and regular exercise feels fucking boring...any tips on exercise that could stimulate my brain would be helpful thank you!Reply
I get bored with the same exercises too. When I would exercise I would do different excuses and a different amount of sets/times. I'd avoid doing the same exercises and same amount sets because it was too monotonous. But I'd find different exercises that would do the same job or similar. And I would exercise different parts to avoid boredom. As long as you stretch/exercise it's better than nothing.Reply
I remember reading a couple of gamer deaths a couple times. It's insane to me some people can't leave their chair for 12 hours straight, no bathroom or snack break, nothing. An hour ot three, I need to stand up or at least pee. Insane to think too you can have an embolism from just sitting down.Reply
The what now???Reply
Also, other injuries! I LOVE boffer fighting/larp fighting, even though I broke my nose. Could've ended way worse if the strike wasn't so straight acrossReply
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I came here to say, “New high score! What does that mean? Did I break it?”Reply
Man, I used to play DDR and ITG for hours at a time. I miss those days.Reply
Might implement this for when I'm on dead by daylight. Every time I die, switch to spectator and watch the rest of the match while doing bodyweight exercise, then play the next match lol. I am USUALLY dead 😂Reply
I gave myself tennis elbow doing online jigsaw puzzles. Damned hyperfocus lolReply
I mean any sedentary activity causes this bot just gaming. you're basically just saying leading a sedentary lifestyle, gaming as a hobby has nothing to do with it.Reply
I don't think it makes much point to bring up because the same would apply to driving, reading, painting/drawing/modeling (digitally or physically), watching TV.movies, playing board games, doing math/word puzzles, solving other puzzles, programming, etc. Also while a sedentary lifestyle can shorten a lifespan, it isn't really a prominent contributor do nearly any deaths of people.Reply
I got DeQuervain from excessive gaming and had to get a cortisone shot on my tendon. Gamer thumb is real!!!Reply
29 year old gaming since 9 can confirm I have shrimp posture and back painReply
Do core and back exercises! If you want to do just one exercises that will help your posture and back pain, it's Bird Dog. It's really the center for my good posture and no back pain. But you should do 2 full core and back workouts every week anyway. And then Bird Dogs every day. A strong core also changes you mentally. It feels so great! Core: \- Hollow Body Hold \- Bicycle Crunch \- Leg Raises \- Plank Back: \- Bird Dog \- Superman holds (more advanced) \- Reverse Plank (even more advanced)Reply
The best way to stop being emotionally dependent on winning sports is to have way worse things go wrong in your life! That or emotional intelligence I guess.Reply
Uncut GemsReply
My neck my back I think it's gonna crackReply
VR has the potential to change this, at least if you play certain games.Reply
The silent killer that I’ll happily die for.Reply
Basically any thing u do either working or hobbies, can cause you RSI. Even working in a office type job typing on keyboards etc..Reply
Hmm I was told you’re supposed to stack CTE for lategame fightsReply
this is so true. those thumbs get soreReply
Not to mention the financial damage. You can get away with it for a while with a dual-income family but then an emergency hits and your reserves are threadbare because your savings dwindled for years at the casino.Reply
I know a woman who owned a house but was a gambler. Nobody knew how bad it was. She borrowed money from her coworkers and boss because she was worried about losing her house. She must have gambled that away because one day she did infact lose her house. All in all she had borrowed thousands of dollars from multiple people. Later everything we was connecting between the people and the woman lost her job too and nobody got paid back. The casinos got richer and she lost her home.Reply
🤣 yesReply
Or Dance Rush!Reply
That’s great Bobby but we don’t have Dance Dance Revolution, so, you’re dumb!Reply
In which case you get repetitive strain injuries. Yay!Reply
My 5 year old has played 100s of hours of video games in his life. I still have In The Groove for my playstation2 with my cobalt flux pad hooked up in my basement. He has passed half of the 6s in the game and can now do 8th note streams on 150 BPM songsReply
Only in the states. In the UK it is a civil matter, and most propoerty owners don't bother doing anything. It's only the city centre towers that have had injunctions slapped on them. Most European counties its either a fine, or a civil matter.Reply
HEY YO CAPTAIN JACK!!!!!Reply
Athletes had death threats for having a down day.Reply
> deadlift 400 lbs Don't church up getting out of bedReply
related LPT: if you want to have your Rock Lee training arc while you play DDR, don't use ankle weights -- use a weighted vest instead.Reply
I wound up in physical therapy w a torn meniscus after an intense DDR session 🥴 There may have been alcohol involved.Reply
Hearing loss prolly deserves its whole ass own thread in and of itself. A few years of concerts can do that too. Ear pro, all the time. But to the point, that's the part of "defensive use" of a firearm that most people don't think about. If you ever have to fire your weapon, you will most likely end up with perma partial hearing loss right then n there. Obv better than losing your life which is the only time you should fire a gun, but yeah..Reply
I got some permanent hearing damage from *riding the subway every day for decades*.Reply
Gambling turns a bad game into rent money disappearing, and someone else pays for the tantrum.Reply
That has largely been debunked, although even one case is one too many.Reply
I feel kinda bad that you guys (probably) never got to play Samba de Amigo on the Dreamcast with the maracas controllers. I still have it, it's so much fun. But after a while your forearms start asking wtf is going on.Reply
Like when I realized I was a real alcohol addict: It became not even about getting drunk. Drinking was merely a means to not die.Reply
Yeah, Beat Saber was my wife's cardio thing and she was fucking GOOD at it. Like at the arcade she just went through it like it was nothing. I'm actually a fairly talented dancer and she is adorably clumsy, but in that game she is god and I am a mere onlooker.Reply
Sure! What games do you like?Reply
I’ve been playing a lot of No Man’s Sky lately but am a big fan of Hollow Knight (Silksong to a lesser extent). In general I’m a sucker for a good story and/or pretty aesthetics :) How about you?Reply
Yep I got a concussion from BJJ and stopped after that. Wasn't even major, no blacking out or seeing flashes/stars or anything. Also, blood chokes are not healthy. There needs to be far more education around that from a medical perspective IMO. As for something like Judo, being slammed on the ground can't be good for the brain either. Had one young guy at my gym who'd had to give up rugby because of multiple concussions, so picked up BJJ instead. Then has switched to *boxing.* There's no helping some people.Reply
With judo you need to learn how to fall really well, but even then shockwaves still hit your brain. And sometimes it is near impossible to break your fall. Practiced it when I was young and one time I couldn't break my fall and landed with full force on top of my head. Felt very nauseous directly after. Was probably a pretty bad concussion, but I don't think my trainers nor parents took it as seriously as they should have. Not sure if my parents even knew lol.Reply
Yet here I am.Reply
In a cruel case of nominative determinism, Eyepatch Wolf (YouTuber) now has an eyepatch due to a detached retina after years of practicing martial arts.Reply
An air purifier, like Coway or Levoit, would help, too. The fibres can stay in the air after you’ve left the room.Reply
I do have an amazing air purifier that we move around the house - we have a bird who also produces dust and fluffReply
Also make sure, not just for you but also for anyone reading this who sews or is new to it, to use a mini vacuum or brush to clean out your sewing machine. The amount of dust, bits of fabric and thread that get stuck in there is crazy. There are tons of videos on YouTube and its worth it, I promise. I noticed after cleaning my machine, it also helped with any respitory problems I was having. Edit - spellingReply
Wait, do the isopropyl alcohol fumes cause something permanent? I work with all those daily, I use fume extractors for soldering but never thought to use anything when cleaning with alcohol.Reply
It can cause lung and sinus irritation if you are exposed to it in poorly ventilated spaces. It's not as bad for you as flux or other solvent cleaners, but it's still not great.Reply
Same ughhh , both elbow tendonitis and my fingers are proper Fucked !! I cannot hold a pen and write on paper some morningsReply
FWIW, evaluate how you're gripping the gi. I play mainly lapel guard (collar/sleeve), and I'm lucky to have very little finger pain. Grips should be "floating", not constantly gripping. I grip at 50% most of the time, then turn it up to 90-100% when I need to use them, OR when someone is trying to break them.Reply
Do you think this is a silent one? Do you think martial arts is a very subtle thing that people don’t know could cause them harm? I don’t see how it fits in this thread.Reply
I think people understand that professional boxing or MMA can cause brain damage, but they don't see any risk in less intense, technique-focused sparring. If kids are taught to do it in strip mall McDojos, how dangerous can it be? As a martial artist myself I think light, supervised sparring with people you know and trust is *generally* on a similar safety level as any other sport, but it gets risky when you're sparring with someone whose control doesn't match their natural strength.Reply
It isn't nearly as insidious as skydiving! A lot of people don't realize this because of modern safety standards, but it only takes one mistake to completely ruin your life. Gravity is a crazy son of a bitch when you aren't careful.Reply
See none of that says silent to me.Reply
Did martial arts in high school and got punched in the face by my opponent. I remember it took like an hour for my vision to fully return in one eye. That probably wasn't great for the long term...Reply
Sun protection is key to that, you learn pretty quickly to use sunblock for that and then it’s pretty avoidableReply
We have these UVF shirts/clothing now. I don’t understand how come everyone isn’t wearing them all the time.Reply
My system of rarely leaving my house is equally effective.Reply
Bob Ross developed cancer from the constant exposure to fumes. Not sure if the paint or the thinner was to blame, but either way it was indeed not good.Reply
Oh that’s funReply
I love whisky 🥃 😭Reply
Yep! C-5-C-6 disc replacement thanks to rolling, loved it but only got a year and blue belt before that surgery ended my hobbyReply
I used to always want to get in some combat sport for exercise but I ultimately just don't want my safety in the hands of another person. I know it's probably rare but it only takes one weird pull or yank and you can get messed up.Reply
Buy a charcoal filter and fan for your bench !Reply
You leave my miniature painting alone! Honestly, just the glue will give me a nose bleed, even with multiple fans for ventilations. I use a mask now. And I try not to sit painting for more than an hour at a time (haha…right). But I do go to the gym to offset all the sedentary hobbies and job.Reply
I've been wrestling for almost 30 years, jiu-jitsu for 15, Muay Thai for 10, and Judo for 5 years. I most certainly do not have any blain dambladge! In all seriousness though, I have a few training partners who used to be professional MMA fighters, and some of them definitely became punch drunk.Reply
The very first Google doodle was also about Burning ManReply
> it's definitely not as kind ont he body as people make it out to be Hold up, who is making it out to be kind on the body? I feel like every other BJJ meme involves a punch bowl of ibuprofenReply
Juggling knives, believe it or not can be a silent killer.Reply
Apparently the 5 year survival rate for melanoma is like 107%. Go get your checkups, everybody!Reply
Not sure how 107% survivability works...does that mean that if 100 people get it then they are all cured and 7 come out with babies?Reply
Dunno the source, but they might be counting multiple cases on a single person. Like get treatment for a spot on your arm, then 2 years later on back, then 5 years later on nose - 3 cures counted.Reply
I think i figured it out. If you get cancer, and can afford healthcare, you are better off than other people that have neither.Reply
Yeah, and even in countries with free healthcare (like the one I live in), the chances of detecting skin cancer are much higher if you do regular checkups, and people who do regular checkups for their skin probably also take better care of their health in general. (Also, it's of course relative survival rate, compared to the rest of the population, not absolute!)Reply
Nah, just relative survival compared to average is higher if you do/can afford regular checkups.Reply
I wonder if mirror prism glasses like those used for reading while laying down could be used for crafting on a flat table while sitting straight upReply
He died doing what he loved, inhaling pigeon shitReply
Specially when you are an hour in and don't have a constant ringing over the music. I used to go to concerts every other week in my 20s, thankfully I learned to use them early on from other concert goers.Reply
Yeah when I learned that even a sport as football can give you some brain damage just from heading the ball I realised there's really no winning. Its a shame, sports are so fun and essential but you really do have to weigh it against the damage to your body.Reply
Well yeah that makes it sound awesome. I know Reddit must contractually hate everything popular. But man I have had so much fun at big music festivals. Particularly for the atmosphere outside of just the music. Like on a normal day I don’t walk up to people and befriend them but it seems so normal at a festival.Reply
>drugged up fever dream Awesome > techno cult boot camp The lamest thing ever.Reply
I didn't say I hate it.Reply
I had someone attempting a choke in bjj, felt a click in my neck and immediately tapped. No issues rest of the day. Then woke up and couldn't turn my head to the left for a few weeks.Reply
It's an especially big issue to the communities around the sorts of small airports that small craft use, the lead still sticks in the air [enough to cause measurable health affects]([link removed] to anyone who lives by a small airport.Reply
Yeah, I work with fabric quite a lot and at first I couldn't understand where my chronic sinusitis issues were coming from, until I noticed all the fluff I was collecting on my clothes through out the day. Now I wear a mask where I can.Reply
People going outside for a run, or taking their baby for a walk the other day when the AQI was staying around 400-600 in my area: "what?"Reply
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In other words, Woodstock in the desert.Reply
Great idea with the ironing board, thanks!Reply
I also love cocktails but I can’t imagine loving them enough to get regular hangovers. I drink enough to maybe get a hangover once or twice a year and that’s still too much.Reply
Reddit gave me cancerReply
It seems like half the posts in knee surgery subs injured in BJJReply
It can cause reactions of extreme disgust at the mere mention of "jolly rancher".Reply
For anyone who's curious about this ik that me telling u to not look it up is gonna make you look it up so just hear that this is what happens - a guy was pleasuring his girlfriend orally and she tasted really bad so he put a jolly rancher in his mouth. And while doing the deed the rancher slipped out of his mouth into her so he reached inside and put it in his mouth again, but it wasn't the rancher it was something else. And seriously that's as far as you want to knowReply
That's why I got my brain damage before I started marital arts. 😂👍🏾Reply
I was coming here to say Pigeon fancier's lung. I had no idea it existed until I started a loft for training my dogs.Reply
Just started this hobby 😪 but thankful for the thoughtful recommendations for how to do it ergonomically!Reply
I remember my HS scuba instructor teaching us about all the things that can go wrong when you’re up to a hundred feet under the ocean breathing pressurized air. Equipment malfunctions. Running out of air. The bends. Drifting too far from your boat. Oxygen poisoning. The risks from bad weather, poor visibility, sea life, collisions, etc. The dangers went on and on. At the end of the course someone asked about cave diving and he said, “God no, don’t ever do that unless you want to die!”Reply
A lesson learned too late in the 1990sReply
You're forgetting the naked peopleReply
Never forget the naked people.Reply
Burning man doesn't have a lot of naked people. Too many people there wear costumes. Our group did a naked day back in 2012 at BM and we didn't see anyone else that day naked and got lots of looks from camps and law enforcement.Reply
First project: build a telepresence system that allows you to do fine-detail work from the next room (and have the work area heavily ventilated).Reply
I literally dropped out of it for this exact reasonReply
How many “<occupation> lung” diseases are there? It seems like they all have an associated lung diseaseReply
"It's all gone Pete Tong" is such a good movieReply
Absolutely agreed, made that mistake only once when i got freshly into that fandom, not having something like this. it was only a 45 min set on a miniature festival (200 people, stage was in a barn) but i was upfront since it was my favorite artist there. It was fun but my ears ringing quite a bit afterwards (luckily nothing permanent afterwards) Since then i have some alpine musicsafe earplugs with me for that worked quite well. (with the exception of loudly cheering, that for some reason hit some kind of frequency, that you suddenly hear it at full volume) Haven't heard the loop earplugs but they also look interesting formwise. saved them for later.Reply
> luckily nothing permanent afterwards That you know of. This was a warning. Hearing damage happens over time.Reply
This is where some simple exercises can really help. Lat pull downs and cable face pulls both strengthen and correct your upper back and shoulders.Reply
With judo you pretty much get constantly slammed into the ground. Judo and BJJ also have chokes which can damage your brain.Reply
Opportunity to sunbathe on the roof. Especially if you have a car with enough auto-drive to be able to say "Follow the car in front at a distance of 5 feet."Reply
sunbathing - silent killer. skin cancer.Reply
I know it's practically a different sport, but I do lots of heavy bag and pad sessions. It's not the same as heavy sparring but I need my brain for work and I have 30 years before retirement so yeahhh can't take too many knocks no more.Reply
😂😂😂Reply
My dentist has a bad back, and was looking into creating a pulley system using a wearable harness and counterweights while leaning over patients. He decided to just let his wife do all the physical work...she's obviously a dentist too, and he told me she's better than him anyway.Reply
I'm imagining your dentist dangling from the ceiling like Spider-Man.Reply
One hard spar every six weeks or so, and you *still* tone it way down when going to the head. My general rule of thumb. (Increased frequency of hard sparring if you have a competition coming up, still with light taps up high.)Reply
My "standing desk" of the moment is a chest of drawers under a wall-mounted monitor. It actually works perfectly. When we get into our house we will put in a wall mounted desk surface, but it's the same thing. SO much better than sitting!Reply
Oh, I love NMS! I haven't been playing lately but I've put a lot of hours into that game. Recently I've been obsessed with Palworld, the 1.0 release came out and it's so good! I have never played Hollow Knight but I've heard nothing but good things about itReply
Not brain damage but currently on reddit instead of in the gym because of a sprainReply
I don't think a once a year week long event can be categorised as a hobby.Reply
It's some people's entire personalityReply
I take it you don't know many burners. It tends to annoyingly take over people's lives. See, you got precompression, decompression, fundraisers, project planning, regional burns... And you get to hear about it all year. Some people are *constantly* working on "burning man" stuff all year while going to burner events.Reply
For people that go every year and are involved in setting up and running one of the camps, it is a LOT of work in the months leading up to it. There is a set-up week that happens before the actual event week as well, and teardown after. You CAN definitely just show up with some camping gear and food / water for a week and have fun with minimal work, but for many burners it is a hobby that takes up a shitload of time.Reply
I wouldn't call a sedentary life a killer though. People live long full lives like that.Reply
Doing any hobby except sitting: silent killer, brain and lung damage Sitting: just as dangerous silent killer Idk, I vote we live our lives taking reasonable precautions and do the hobbies we like, because almost nobody knows how they're going to dieReply
You're not wrong, but also probably not a "silent" risk. Similarly I don't really do road-biking anymore because of the risks, but those are loud, obvious risks.Reply
My wife's uncle was a retired surgeon, and a road biker. He had a wreck a few years ago and hit his head, with a helmet on, and sustained a brain bleed that put him in the ICU. He's not been ok since, his wife has to take care of him now. He's still ambulatory, but he's not entirely there anymore either. I'm an avid cyclist, but as I get into my older years, I am definitely thinking about these things and trying to avoid the more dangerous riding I used to do. The number of times I have just chucked a bike down a mountain with "hang on, ride it out, don't die" as my motto has probably reached it's peak.Reply
I'm imagining someone going through a Tai Chi set, only to have a rando rush into the room and deck them.Reply
“Electric Gonorrhea: the noisy killer”Reply
I really like doing Ardrino projects but had to stop because of solder. Back in school, our maker labs was either in the basement or a tiny little room without window and with bad ventilation. Looking back I feel it was not healthy at all.Reply
> affects. "Effects" is the right word here.Reply
>No single day hurts. Until every day hurts. Once I hit my mid 30s I started getting hip pain and back pain. Turns out lack of movement isnt great for our bodies. I workout now and that's helped a lot but if I become to sedentary my hips start yelling at me.Reply
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Im smarter than a turtle.Reply
Are you better at being underwater than a turtle?Reply
Are you though?Reply
Not if you're crawling into a cave that turtle drowned in - they likely didn't go in willinglyReply
Sure.Reply
So many people here consider smoking cigarettes a hobby... 🤢🤮Top-level comment
A regular activity, costs money, takes time and serves no purpose beyond the enjoyment derived from doing it. I say this as an ex-smoker.Reply
Anything with repeated contact to the head. Worked with two guys, one who did rugby and the other muay thai, and they frequently forgot how to do very repetitive tasks that they had been doing for years and had done thousands of times. Protect your brain at all costs, even one bonk to the head can be life-changing.Top-level comment
One of my social workers was a former circus performer, he said fire eaters basically do a year on, then have to take at least a year off and do something else that's not as dangerous. The example he gave? Sword-swallowing. XDReply
Recent evidence that shooting larger ammunition can cause brain damage over time too.Reply
Mycobacterium marinum, too. Unless that's just freshwater, I forget.Reply
It also causes a great deal of oxidative stress, which can lead to cancer. I know several hard core marathon runners who died young from cancer.Reply
My grandfather was a pigeon fancies and he died of emphysema or ‘pigeon lung’.Top-level comment
That was me, I apologize. Kidding aside, I would also like to know more. I've never heard of this and find it intriguing. Most the other hobbies listed are a lot more obvious or known so this sounds interesting!Reply
I have been casting bullets for over 60 years, mostly with an electric pot and careful temperature control. One of my docs included a "heavy metal screening" in the routine blood work. Nothing. Shooting muzzle loaders, you handle the bullets and may even pull them from a cartridge tube with your teeth! All of that shooting is outdoors. No one I know or have heard of has suffered from any lead related health issue. After a match, hands get washed before eating, mainly because of carbon and bullet lube.Reply
Dry tumbling your brass that seems to be a concern. The primer compound is a lead product, and as folks tumble brass in a vibration tumbler it mixes with the corncob media and gets airborne. I switched to wet tumbling and using gloves and a lead soap and test for lead at every checkup and it’s resolved. I’m extra paranoid as a parent. Hand loading is a curse where the more precise you get, the more precise you want to get and it gets progressively more obsessive.Reply
Historically speaking, being alive has a 100% fatality rateReply
Don't forget the respiratory issues from shooting with a suppressorReply
I’d argue nail art. You’re inhaling the fumes from gel polish/hard gel, plus the dust you create when filing or drilling off the polish. Some hobbyists recommend wearing a mask when working with the gel polish; it’s also ideal to use a vacuum stand/platform (?) when removing polish to help clean up the dust & essentially “suck it away”from your faceTop-level comment
Racing pigeons, my uncle caught a disease from the dust on their feather, similar to asbestosis. Spent his last few years on oxygen constantly, died a really awful death.Top-level comment
Loading your own ammo and casting your own bullets. Grandpas basement was basically a lead factory no wonder he was looneytoons.Top-level comment
Quite handy in a fight!Reply
As always there are negatives to exercise, but in general the benefits outweigh the negatives.Reply
What’s the cut-off point for Pothos? I’m at 6 right now. Should I expect an interjection soon?Reply
I do enjoy a few drinks on the weekend but I wouldn’t really say it’s a hobby. Would be like saying eating at McDonald’s everyday was a hobby.Reply
I’d say it’s still a hobby. I play disc golf once every week or two and that’s a big hobby of mine.Reply
I do a decent amount of work in Cubase. Can confirm. EeeeeeeeeeReply
HUHH? WHATD YA SAY??? sorry I can’t hear for shit..Reply
You'll be fine. Don't drink the tank water and wash your hands wellReply
Humans are unfortunately built out of bits that only barely survived the evolutionary process, and aren't designed to last multiple decades at full working capacity. Hell, we still have parts of our anatomy that are prepared to argue violently that bipedalism was a bad idea. Just my luck to be born a couple of centuries before bioengineering could provide an overall more sensible physiology, or at least basic regeneration.Reply
My first thought on reading the gassing remark was Sea Apples, but from what I understand their poison just stays inside the water. I guess technically any anaerobic bubbles that get released from the substrate could technically count as "gassing your house," but it's not going to hurt you. Fishmongers disease does seem like a sonofabitch, though.Reply
You are right, not arguing just adding. They dont wash bullets of the lead after the jacketing process so you still get residual lead. Most bullets are jacketed but either have an exposed lead tip or base, they sell fully copper jacketed bullet to minimize the lead exposure in shooting ranges. You are correct biggest lead exposure is shooting it not from reload it. The whole mechanics of the bullet being pushed out via super-hot gases atomizes lead into a nice breathable gas.Reply
This one doesn't feel silent lolReply
Why is there so much talk about boiling rocks?? What do you need to boil then for so often?Reply
“Live rock” is porous rock that forms the backbone of most coral reefs. In addition to providing a substrate for which corals grow, it offers both anaerobic and aerobic locations in which beneficial bacteria grow — bacteria necessary to both clean the water AND feel the tank. But it can also harbor unwanted pests — worms, isopods, anemones, algae, etc. One of the established methods for killing any sort of algae or pests on live rock is boiling it. Though it’s almost always a method of last resort because it kills everything — both good and bad — so it’s not an exactly a common occurrence. It’s not something I’ve ever done in over 20 years.Reply
All dynamic, athletic sports are great for you until you get an injury that renders you unable to exercise for the rest of your lifeTop-level comment
I just started BJJ about a year and a half ago. Broke my wrist four months in (my own silly mistake, fell on it wrong). That was annoying, but I got over it. I just learned last week about chokes causing strokes and that scares the shit out of me. Other than tapping right away is there anything else to do to try and prevent this?Reply
Being very vocal of limitations with who you roll with, the black belts , browns, and purples were usually very understanding in training, it was the other blues and whites that had something to do with”prove” when rolling.Reply
Arterial dissection, from my research, mainly happens when you're actively turning your head while fully locked in on a choke. I imagine the main situation that'd be applicable is defending a guillotine, but I guess a rear naked would cause the same thing, same with a bow and arrow in the gi. Tap early is my advice. And, for what it's worth, I've been around the sport almost 20 years and training regularly for 13; the only death that I've been close to in the sport is an old training partner who had a heart attack at the gym. Strokes are few and far between, but it's worth recognizing the risk so you know the signs.Reply
Hell, I'm only 20 years old and between BJJ, tae kwon do, football, and being a firefighter I feel like I'm in my 40s some days. I get a whole lot of comments about how I'm "too young to have knee/back pain" but it sure would be nice if someone told that to my body.Reply
I almost exclusively transitioned to half guard knee shield at brown belt. I'm okay defending knee attacks if my early stage defenses work. Once I'm in cross ashi, I tap almost immediately. I also don't do NoGi much as it's, in my opinion, much harder on the body than gi; too many spazzy lower belts in nogi with less of a way to slow them down.Reply
I don't know about gassing the house, but I can confirm coral poisoning in a joint hurts like nothing on earth for weeks on end, and you may not notice it until several hours after it happens.Reply
A bit of chess doesn’t sound bad either (file under video games)Reply
14 years black belt. I’m 43 my neck knee and hip agree with you. I’m think I’m out at 45Reply
What about Wanker’s Wrist and FPS-Associated Neural Decortication?!Reply
I have three main hobbies - two highly aerobic, and one more sedentary but still active. They haven't appeared on this list.Reply
This sounds like the one single hobby that doesn't kill you lolReply
Not only for the shooter, but they can bring that lead home on them and poison their kids/family too.Reply
Humans have been at the top of the food chain for a very long time due to their ability to tire out other animals.Reply
This is hilariously wrong lol. There's slightly elevated risk of A-Fib in older, long term marathon runners, but not nearly high enough that any cardiologist would tell you to stop when weighed against every other benefit. VO2 max is the number one predictor of longevity and every regular marathon runner is leagues above an untrained fat ass.Reply
It can be, if you aren't both on the same page about it.Reply
Wait what about freshwater tanks?Reply
The only thing it's killing is my wallet.Reply
I would not class this one as "silent" lol, it is pretty intuitive that eating fire is not an inherently safe activity. Fascinating details on why and how, though.Reply
I would argue that it is exactly those details that really makes it a silent killer. Many if not most hobbies carry with them an inherent calculated risk. This risk can vary, but it is always there. Something like basejumping, I would not call a silent killer, because the danger to life is obvious and straightforward. Prospective Basejumpers know this risk and assume it when they basejump they take precautions to prevent it. Fire breathers and eaters are given a false impression of what the risks are by observing the action. They focus on safety of having someone to put your face out of it is on fire, knowing the wind direction and crucially: prevention of flame aspiration after a breath is ignighted. Often that is assumed to be sufficient risk understanding and mitigation. Unless they are extremely well informed by others they may never know about the other long term and silent effects of the practice which I would argue is where the true long term danger lies. I would argue that many know they are swallowing a bit of petrochemicals, it gives them a bit of an upset stomach and they assume it is not great but they don't necessarily know what the cumulative effects of doing that repeatedly are. That is what elevates it from a risky hobby to a silent killer.Reply
It's funny how whenever cancer is linked to regular hair dye use that hairdressers scream that it's untrue. Hairdressers are using gloves and they're not the ones getting harsh chemicals slathered all over their vein-dense scalps that pass the blood brain barrierReply
I'm also talking about the hairspray and keratin treatments. Even with ventilation, I'm sure it's not enough if someone does them regularly and wears a mask. But I've heard at least 1 hairdresser say they felt weird wearing a mask to not freak out clients.Reply
Add fungal and bacterial infections to our lovely list. The whole spectrum between ringworm and MRSA is possible even in clean gyms. Look at Ben Askren - lung Staph infection leading to a severe pneumonia resulting in a double lung transplant. And we both know that none of these risks will stop us from being on the mats.Reply
We clean our mats several times a day, and it's still an uphill battle. Won't stop until people start thinking of others and stay off the mats when they have skin shit going on.Reply
Mine's napping, I'll be right there with you friend!Reply
My mom caught some sort of god knows what disease after she cut herself on something in the tank. It’s a miracle she’s alive.Reply
From what I’ve read and researched, this is much more concerning of the people whose homes back up to golf courses than it is to the players themselves.Reply
Im not sure. My Dad played golf religiously every weekend for decades and has it with no other obvious risk factors. But that is only a case study of one.Reply
So their spouse joined community theater and you ended up with them. Got it. Brutal.Reply
Exercise in general is a fantastic idea. Overtly strenuous exercise can be particular taxing on the body. Anyone over 40 should consider a 5K instead. Or another form of cardio.Reply
Ha ha thanks for the laughReply
Tell me this is a joke.Reply
Look up the cancer rates for homes around golf courses… “Living near a golf course can pose environmental health risks due to **pesticide and herbicide runoff** into the local groundwater supply”Reply
Pesticide drift in general is a huge problem unfortunately. I wish it was taken more seriously.Reply
just jumping in here to say that its important to distinguish between \*living\* near a golf course and \*playing\* golf. [account] seems to suggest that the latter is dangerous, which is what the user you replied probably meant to dismiss.Reply
Paraquat. [link removed]Reply
Linked to Parkinson’sReply
What happens when you load the ammo?Reply
Lead exposure, if you’re loading your own ammo you’re also probably shooting a lot, skin contact with gunpowder isn’t overall toxic but the fumes after shooting a round are definitely not greatReply
Smells so good thoughReply
Exposure to lead, mostly. There's also the risk of accidentally (or just foolishly) hot loading a cartridge (using too much powder) that can lead to your gun going kaboom in your hands. Fun fact: You can also screw up by *underloading* a cartridge and failing to fill the empty space with something inert. In such a case, the empty air space can allow more of the powder to burn all at once, creating a momentary pressure spike that can behave like a hot load.Reply
Some shotgun shells still use lead. It's generally frowned upon by gun owners because of the environmental impacts it causes, though.Reply
In hand loading it’s not the shot or projectile that are your main exposures, but rather the primer compound which unless you go out of your way to buy lead free primers (Germany makes some nice ones) they will contain lots of lead. Mix that with vibratory dry tumbling and you could contaminate your house with fine little corn cob dust coated in lead. I personally wet tumble with stainless steel media and wear gloves and use lead soap.Reply
How does using lead soap(?) lower your lead exposure? Doesn't sound like a bar of lead would lather up very well, but just goes to show you how much i know...Reply
No such thing as a dumb question when asked without malicious intent. Lot of great products out there for removing heavy metals. I use D-lead hand soap, which is known to be pretty great for getting rid of fine particles of metals on skin. So it’s not made of lead, but made to bind to and remove lead and other metals like cobalt, nickel and chromium all of which basically speed run cancer. My dad worked in steel mills and had thyroid cancer twice before he even hit 30 because of metal exposure, so I was brought up to take it very seriously. People do occasionally get weird when they see me put on PPE when I’m doing a hobby metalworking project, but dying of cancer at 40 for a hobby isn’t manly in the least, especially when it fucks over your kids. I recently met a millwright who is permanently disabled under 40 because of how bad his lungs were from welding, and he’s likely lost/seriously damaged his relationship his family due to how he coped with it all. I’m a bit odd being a mental health worker who knows way too much about dangerous jobs and hobbies.Reply
That's a good point. Certain powders can be...not as bad for your health as the primers, certainly, but they can get everywhere and if you aren't vigilant you just end up inhaling a bit of powder constantly.Reply
Unless you're firing rifle rounds in a enclosed space, you're fine. Never seen an indoor range allow rifle rounds or higher. Otherwise yes, a couple handfuls of 5.56 in an indoor will have your head aching after a while.Reply
I have never seen an indoor range that does not allow rifle…..Reply
Oof. My indoor range has a separated section for rifles, shotguns, and semi autos 😬Reply
Mother of god I can't imagine fucking shotguns in an indoor range, kindly enjoy them over there, two miles away from meReply
Shotguns are way less of a problem than rifles AND pistols sound wise. They’re relatively low pressure so the sound wave is spread out.Reply
The things I wish I could do to Rambo one lane next to me with his ~~motherfucking tank cannon~~ AR10 and ~~loudencer~~ compensatorReply
What’s wild to me is that if the NYT article is to be believed, firing off a .357 or higher energy handgun can cause more potential brain damage than a .223 carbine indoors.Reply
Shotguns aren’t the worst; I’d rather have somebody shooting a shotgun indoors than any centerfire rifle, namely because the dB levels are lower when your typical shotgun load is going at fast handgun velocities and not at rifle velocities. If you want real pain, either listen to somebody shooting an AR or AK pistol with a muzzle brake in the next stall, or worse, somebody thinks it’s a good idea to bring their .300 Win Mag to shoot indoors.Reply
> listen to somebody shooting an AR or AK pistol with a muzzle brake in the next stall, or worse Guy setting up in the lane next to me with a compensated AR prompts a scooch to the next lane away from him quite quickly, yes ^yes ^hello ^I ^am ^guy ^with ^comp'ed ^AR ^fear ^meReply
I was in the far outside lane at an indoor range, stuck between a concrete wall on one side and someone shooting a muzzle brake'd 300 WM on the other. It suuuccckkked.....Reply
Mad as a hatter you say?Reply
Makes sense when you consider the original story of why they're called marathon and what happened to the messenger.Reply
Oh yeah I missed that aspect of OP’s question. Cave diving is obviously a dangerous sport/hobby from the beginning. Scuba diving in general is fairly safe with proper training (open water diving), but cave diving is a very risky upgrade to the scuba diving hobby.Reply
What are you doing for maintenance?Reply
The funky spidermanTop-level comment
The ole gasp and gooReply
one hand on the adams apple, the other on the _adams banana_Reply
I'm afraid to ask... but what is the funky Spiderman?Reply
Maybe some innuendo?Reply
I'm too scared to google tooReply
Pet birds can cause interstitial lung disease which can be deadlyTop-level comment
This thread has me ready to permanently live in an n95Top-level comment
Programming. Often comes with prolonged sitting and exposure to screens, imposter syndrome and cripples your ability to have normal conversationsTop-level comment
Can you expand a bit? Why imposter syndrome and why the inability to have normal conversations?Reply
A lot of devs spend too much time in the constantly changing landscape of technical stuff. A normal person looks like an alien to them after some time For imposter syndrome, that's skill issuesReply
Drinking boozeTop-level comment
Welding.Top-level comment
What I’m gathering here is - “Find what you love and let it kill you” - BukowskiTop-level comment
MethTop-level comment
Blacksmithing can permamently damage your hearing with one stroke of a hammer. and without a fan sucking smoke from your fire you're breathing in green smoke everytime you light a fire, and regular smoke while it burns.Top-level comment
I haven't seen it yet, so I'll mention it even though I'm late to the thread. Guns, especially at crowded or indoor ranges can lead to lead exposure at pretty high levels if you're not careful. Especially if you collect your brass/reload your own ammo.Top-level comment
Hearing damage too if you don't use adequate ear protection. See the recent lawsuit against 3M and their CAEv2.Reply
yeah that's a good one people dont always think aboutReply
Pottery and sanding wood. The dust is the quiet part, it builds up in your lungs and sinuses over time, so a proper mask and actual ventilation matter alotTop-level comment
Watch. Out. For fucking resin crafting. There are a ton of arts-and-crafts influencers who will get online and do that shit in a closed aesthetic craft room without so much as a dust mask on. Those influencers are stupid. Resin is TOXIC AS HELL and the fumes WILL fuck up your lungs, especially if you're crafting with resin on a regular basis. You want the right respirator and you want to do it outdoors.Top-level comment
Base Jumping seems sketchy.Top-level comment
I don't think I'd call the dangers of base jumping a "silent" killer. That's more of a killer with a megaphone and neon sign.Reply
yeah sketchy is the correct use of words here.Reply
Sketchy Andy would agree. RIP.Reply
I used to have zero empathy for Base Jumpers ever since it took Shane McConkey, arguably the world's most influential skier. You're basically putting yourself in a position where survival rate eventually drops to zero. However I do recommend the docuseries The Dark Wizard, about Dean Potter. It doesn't absolve him of mistakes, but considers his mental and emotional journey in life that led him to base jumping and free soloing. Surprisingly compelling and had me emotional by the end.Reply
What do you think the word “silent” meant in the prompt here, exactly? The risk from beast jumping are well-known and completely obvious and very loud and very messy. What about that silent to you? Looking forward to your answer!Reply
Running. At least for your knees.Top-level comment
Bus SurfingTop-level comment
GASMAN!Reply
This guy BottomsReply
Cycling. Pocketbook killer.Top-level comment
It's that fifth bike that really gets you in the wallet. But seriously... there's nothing quiet about the fucking pickup truck that's probably going to end me as a cyclist.Reply
The cybertruck howeverReply
I guess maybe if \*I\* hit the cybertruck? Otherwise I'm not confident in its ability to injure anyone but its driver.Reply
Unironically, cyclists have staggeringly high rates of cancer when compared to the general population. (I would imagine because constantly inhaling tire and brake dust + the exhaust of anyone without a catalytic converter)Reply
Do you have a link that? Sounds like BS to me. Slightly higher chance of something? Perhaps. “Staggering high”? Doubt.Reply
Reading . Like have you experienced giggle in 3:00 in the morning because they kiss?Top-level comment
The sun exposure factor in many outdoor sports. I used to be in my boat 80-120 days a year. You can take precautions but I wasn't into it for many years.Top-level comment
Pottery! Beware your lungs keep your surfaces clean and do not sand bisque wear dry!Top-level comment
LivingTop-level comment
Reloading ammunition, especially if you dry tumble to clean your brass or aren't good about washing your hands after handling projectiles. Most reloaders will have elevated lead levels from lead exposure. General aviation pilots also have higher exposure to lead as most piston aircraft still use leaded gasoline.Top-level comment
Coffee. One day you're buying beans. next day you're discussing altitude.Top-level comment
DIY mechanic. You get exposed to every single existing toxic compound, and most of it gets sprayed on your skin or inhaled without you even noticing it. I see a lot of mechanics wearing gloves but only a few are wearing masks consistently.Top-level comment
Shooting at indoor ranges with poor/no ventilation. If I'm going to shoot a lot of rounds I'll bring a mask cause you're just basking in all that lead laced smokeTop-level comment
Soldering/de-soldering old circuit boards with leaded solder, and roisin based flux and not using fume extraction equipment.Top-level comment
Boxing really. Maybe not as much of a 'silent killer' as something like making pottery (lol) but many people think if you're lightly sparring or wearing protective gear then it's fine. Thing is, even light strikes to the head repeated over years can cause pretty significant brain damage. There's no 'safe' way to have a boxing match.Top-level comment
these are all great potential house md episodesTop-level comment
Homebrewing is not super popular but it does lead to several health issues fairly quickly, excess calories leading to obesity, replacing healthy food frequency with liquids devoid of minerals, and don’t forget the alcohol over time on liver and skin.Top-level comment
Whitewater kayakingTop-level comment
Magic the gathering. It silently kills both your bank account and attraction to the opposite sex.Top-level comment
Sitting for 6–12 hours regularly increases the risk of obesity, cardiovascular disease, type 2 diabetes, and chronic back and neck pain. Poor sleep from late-night gaming and eye strain can compound the problem.Top-level comment
If you do it well, bow hunting. No bow is totally silent, but they can be made pretty damn quiet and if you get it right, you fill the freezer.Top-level comment
Ngl i read this without reading comments and my first thought was Warhammer. then I realized you meant actually people dieing from the hobby and....ya I still say Warhammer probably wins. I bet so many people bankrupt themselves buying setsTop-level comment
Golf. People who play golf or live near a golf course are more likely to get Parkinson’s. I think it’s all of the pesticides they use on the lawns.Top-level comment
I would say knitting,needle point,etc. I say that because if you don’t get up every like 30min to an hour you can get deep vein thrombosis. Which is bad if not treated immediately. My grandma years ago was doing needle point. She would get into it and she ended up having a Pulmonary Embolism which was caused by sitting too long. She survived thank goodnessTop-level comment
Golf just playing on a pesticide playground sadly. Avid golfer still 🤣Top-level comment
Photography using the Daguerreotype process. It's the mercury vapors what gets ya.Top-level comment
Ninja spottingTop-level comment
Hi, I read Hobbits and was very confused. That said, Farmer Maggot.Top-level comment
Reading redit. It is killing my brain. LolTop-level comment
Recreational drugsTop-level comment
Free Diving. Everyone has a point they simply won’t get past, but you never know what it is until you reach it and when you do, you’ll drownTop-level comment
Autoerotic asphyxiationTop-level comment
Just life in general. turned 40 and suddenly everything hurts. My shoulders and neck especially have been really stiff and no matter what I try I just can't get it to loosen up. I guess sitting in front of the PC doesn't help...Top-level comment
May be an unpopular opinion - but video games. Sitting is the new smoking, and spending hours sitting in one chair can really affect your health long term.Top-level comment
FODMAP maxxing when you get the flow control rightTop-level comment
BBQ pit masters often develop cancerTop-level comment
Damn, like all of the top comments involve respiratory illness.Top-level comment
Woodworking has to be up there. Sawdust just looks like dirt, and people end up breathing it for years without thinking much about it. A dust collector and respirator are part of the tool kit as far as I’m concerned.Top-level comment
Not killers but anything using your hands and precision. Gundam building, wood carving, taxidermy articulation.. my back neck and hands always hurt.. adhd does not help, you forget to take a break and end up locked in for 6 hours straight.Top-level comment
Paint gun spraying… without protection. Gambling.Top-level comment
I know that oil painters tend to die from arsenic poisoning. Don't finger paint with oil.Top-level comment
Don't ever try to shape surfboardTop-level comment
Pogo sticking.Top-level comment
Archery…does a number to your shoulderTop-level comment
Lego, it sends you bankruptTop-level comment
DatingTop-level comment
Knitting (stretch your wrists guys)Top-level comment
Fly Fishing, in Australia. Had waaaaay to many encounters with snakes over the years. still love it though.Top-level comment
Camping / campfires. The air quality within 6ft of them isn't good. If your clothes smell of smoke after, it's time to soap up all over and get that toxic stuff off your skin. I love having campfires and making charcoal. I just use breathing protection and have a shower afterwards.Top-level comment
video gaming - lack of movement combined with stress ....Top-level comment
ITT: LUNGSTop-level comment
Rock knapping joins the litany of hobbies that can cause silicosis if you don't mask upTop-level comment
I'm a fire performer so... Yeah.Top-level comment
Blacksmithing. I use hand protection, because you're constantly exposed to metal, you can get pretty severe burns, and obviously lung damage if you're not wearing a respirator while sanding. The one big one that everyone forgets about though, is the IR radiation that comes from a forge. You're burning fuel (charcoal, coke, or propane) at temperatures easily exceeding 2000 degrees Fahrenheit. The blackbody radiation is intense, and I wear thin cotton sleeves and special glasses used by glassbowers, that way I don't get cataracts or corneal burns. I tell people all the time that are interested in it to get good protection equipment before they buy anything else.Top-level comment
CocaineTop-level comment
For one, I've all but stopped training NoGi as I feel it's harder on my body. Some people would disagree there, but I have a very isometric style that's slow and methodical. I'm starting to add rehab-centric weightlifting, focusing on joint strengthening and mobility rather than pure strength. May start to add breath work and yoga into the mix.Reply
Unpopular opinion, but gaming. So sedentary. Sitting is the new smoking, they say.Top-level comment
Riding submarines down to the wreck of the Titanic.Top-level comment
Doing serial killersTop-level comment
High levels of stress ist really a hobby so much as a lifestyle choice, but I'm told it's not great for the longevity.Top-level comment
WarhammerTop-level comment
I’ve only ever used acrylics, so I know nothing about oil painting, but can one not paint with oil without using paint thinner?Reply
Espresso. Too much can give you arrhythmias.Top-level comment
Bagpipes are a perfect example, loud at first, then they slowly wear down everyone around you.Top-level comment
Well considering I have a high risk of blood clots now Any that involve prolonged sittingTop-level comment
Any kind of contact sport where you take frequent blows. I knew a former Black Belt in Jiu Jitsu or something and he had fought in tournaments and trained for decades. In his 60's he could hardly move. Arms, legs, you name it. He actually said if he could do life over knowing the pain he was in then as a relatively young old guy, he'd not do competitive martial arts. He also had signs of brain trauma.Top-level comment
Drinking.Top-level comment
It’s not a killer per se, but shoemaking (especially bottoming - sewing on the soles by hand) can wreck the nerves in your hands irreparably as you pull the threads so hard so many times making a pair. You can get something called “trigger fingers” where your hands are curled like clawsTop-level comment
eating rocks that contain uraniumTop-level comment
Pigeon racing. Get psittacosis, and my neighbour did. Basically a lung disease caused by pigeon poop exposureTop-level comment
Cigar smoking I guess. I go to my local cigar shop and relax in the lounge at least once a week. Okay definitely not healthy but the guys that work there smoke these giant fat cigars several times a day every week. I can't imagine doing that.Top-level comment
Bodybuilding.Top-level comment
Climbing Mount Everest.Top-level comment
Cave divingTop-level comment
I don't know about silent but general aviation kills a surprising % of is participantsTop-level comment
I was surprised when I learned that doing inlay work with materials like mother of pearl can be a big health risk.Top-level comment
Thank god reading is not in this listTop-level comment
depends on what you’re reading nglReply
liquid sugar addiction. people don't consider drinking sodas, sweet iced teas, or boba as a "bad habit" because it doesn't give you a hangover like alcohol. but you're literally chugging 50g of sugar in five minutes without your brain even registering calories. ten years down the track, you've got non-alcoholic fatty liver and pre-diabetes before you even hit 30, mate.Top-level comment
Mountain biking seems like the perfect hobby nowTop-level comment
Amateur weldingTop-level comment
Gardening and woodworking. Strong connections to e.g. MS. It's the chemicals, not the flowers.Top-level comment
My friend’s father died after inhaling too much of that mist that beekeepers use. Another case of a hobby wear you need to mask up to be safe.Top-level comment
Photography. The more I spend on gear and lenses, the more looks I get from my wife and closer to being smothered while I sleep.Top-level comment
Ultra running —> aortic stenosisTop-level comment
SmokingTop-level comment
Stamp collecting. Ask George.Top-level comment
Church.Top-level comment
Motorcycle ridingTop-level comment
This one usually kills in a very loud wayReply
What did you think OP meant when they put that word “silent” in the prompt?Reply
Drinking alcoholTop-level comment
Voting RepublicanTop-level comment
Russian RouletteTop-level comment
stained glassTop-level comment
fire guilding. Gives you Mercury poisoning, which leads both to health issues and insanity.Top-level comment
Making leaded stain glass pieces. You melt lead to seal the joints. Between inhaling the lead fumes and the lead absorbed through your skin, it's not a good hobby over the long haul.Top-level comment
Gaming. Your back will destroy you.Top-level comment
So far haven’t seen roller skating on here … phew!Top-level comment
Brazilian JiujitsuTop-level comment
eating glass (does make some noise if you chew loud tho)Top-level comment
gamingTop-level comment
Probably any builder type hobby. There are so many chemicals that you can get exposed to, either via skin or respiration that are either carcinogens, toxic or poisonous.Top-level comment
Drawing. My hands kill me constantly as I get older, sitting criss crossed on my bed with no support has fucked up my legs and posture, my eyesight has gotten worse, I skip meals to draw, I neglect work and school to draw, and worse of all- I’m so compulsively addicted to getting better at it I don’t care what it takes so I damage my body all the more by continuing not to support it while I draw. It’s a horrible cycle I just can’t seem to kick. But I won’t stop :)Top-level comment
Run club.... because your wife is gonna kill you for boinking your run partner.Top-level comment
Being ‘the chill one’ in every situation until you forget what you actually feel.Top-level comment
Not a hobby but being a farrier with the smoke is awful for our lungs can wear face masks either as we need to blow the smoke away to see how the shoe fitsTop-level comment
Okay so I’ve done 3 of these top hobbies. I am very much going to die because of my respiratory system apparently lolTop-level comment
Just wear adequate PPE and take breaks, you'll be fineReply
Relax , take a dead I mean à deep breath, everything is gonna be ok, we’re all gonna died anywayReply
Gambling. It starts as a fun entertainment where you can win few bucks. You wake up 2 years later - broke, no respect from the family, in debt, suicidal, more mental problems, your beloved one left you. You can argue if it’s a hobby but where I live (Russia) - people just don’t think it’s an addiction. I wish I never put these $10 in that fucking online casino. Don’t try, don’t think that you are bigger than a gambling addiction. You won’t be able to blinkTop-level comment
Gaming with terrible posture. The boss fight is your spine at 30.Top-level comment
Adopt strength training as a second hobbie and most hobbies are suddenly a lot less dangerous.Top-level comment
MasturbationTop-level comment
Gaming. You say one match, suddenly 5 hours gone.Top-level comment
SmokingTop-level comment
Weightlifting. A lot of people, especially those juicing, absolutely destroy various joints, ligaments and discs doing it.Top-level comment
Stained Glass - lead exposure. Another ventilation, wear a mask story.Top-level comment
Clown lung! Contracted from breathing in a lot of talc.Top-level comment
CavingTop-level comment
I bet caving exposes you to a lot of Radon… In all seriousness, I started caving and working in caves as a young person. I’ve only ever done or wanted to do caving, and not cave diving. The longer I’ve caved, the fewer cave divers I know.Top-level comment
The moral of this thread is, "Don't have fun to relax; it'll kill you."Top-level comment
Arguably any hobby that means you're sat down for an extended periodTop-level comment
Even if I work with "safe" materials when 3d printing, I still set up ventilation through a window outside that purges after every print, just to be safe, for both me and the family.Top-level comment
I’ve never been so happy that I’m lazy af and have no hobbies. Seems like everything kills you hahaTop-level comment
Cave diving. It’s only a matter of time…..Top-level comment
hookers and blowTop-level comment
Good old Mickey Donovan.Reply
Martial arts. So many effed up joints.Top-level comment
Mercury jugglingTop-level comment
Running. I'm not silent about it trying to kill me thoughTop-level comment
League of legendsTop-level comment
Smoking anyone?Top-level comment
Axe catching.Top-level comment
Killing people is a hobby that slowly starts to make you more like silent killerTop-level comment
Oil painting, glass blowing, smoking (and similar things) if you consider that a hobbyTop-level comment
Drinking martinisTop-level comment
RugbyTop-level comment
My friend just said farting in jars.Top-level comment
PC gaming, your back will become your worst enemyTop-level comment
Motocross/Enduro riding in Forest Warch out for that TREE 🤣Top-level comment
Oof!Reply
I used to play a lot of warhammer when they were lead, and a lot of people were not well from licking the paintbrushes between strokes on the lead models. The primers were also really bad on the lungs, as well as the solvents (thinners).Reply
yeah, on IG I follow a girl that already lost 2 boyfriends due to them jumping to death while base jumping. fucking heart wreckingReply
Up to 5 cups of coffee per day is scientifically proven to be safe, and even slightly beneficial to health in otherwise healthy individuals. For people who consume little fruits and vegetables, coffee is the highest source of phytonutrients.Reply
Yeah people don't understand how toxic consistent exposure to sawdust can be. It's a known carcinogen.Reply
Very stoked to see my hobby so low on this list.Reply
WankaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhReply
WorthReply
Knitting and crochet. You can get carpian tunnel and other problems in your hands (sorry, english is not my 1st language but you get me), lots of time sitting with your head down and your back looking like a schrimp will hurt your back and give you a double neck and headachesTop-level comment
Spray paint art. Even if you're doing it outdoors, wear a mask still. The fumes will screw you upTop-level comment
Gacha Gaming, collecting digital characters or items in "free-to-play" games is designed using psychological slot-machine tactics. Spending dollars here and there feels completely insignificant in the moment, but over a few years it drains hundreds of thousands of money from your savings, severely warping your financial health.Top-level comment
Collecting uranium glassware and/or any other slightly radioactive household tools and decorationsTop-level comment
Many hobbies are healthy in moderation but can become "silent killers" when done excessively or without proper precautions. The danger often comes from long-term wear and tear rather than obvious injuries.Top-level comment
I sew occasionally and whenever i work with faux fur i have to wear a mask so lint doesn't go into my lungs. Fursuit makes especially need masks since theyre working with fur constantly. Along with accidentally getting cut or your sewing machine spontaneously combustingTop-level comment
Pressure canning. I want to learn but I’m scared to mess up and have a giant explosion!Top-level comment
GlassblowingTop-level comment
so you're telling me... EVERYTHING you can do obsessively, for hours on end, with no consideration of your physical needs can kill you? And inhaling dust and/or chemical fumes isn't good for you either? We can't have anything :(Top-level comment
Domestic production of biodiesel from used cooking oil. People new to this sometimes underestimate the risks of handling methanol, lye and potassium hydroxide. The intermediate chemicals are also very dangerous.Top-level comment
Asbestos sculptingTop-level comment
Welding, other metal working where PPE is often an afterthought.Top-level comment
DrugsTop-level comment
SmokingTop-level comment
daily exposure to blue lightTop-level comment
Sitting. Absolute silent killer and somehow it's the hobby underneath most of the other hobbies.Top-level comment
Any type of woodworking if you don’t have the proper equipment and space. Also glass blowing will permanently remove all elasticity from the skin on your cheeks.Top-level comment
One of my friends works in a niche art industry, and she told me that one of her cohorts developed some weird disease because she used mussel shells (?) in her craft. She bought them bulk from China, but apparently they filtered some heavy metals via pollution that ended up in the shells. A few shells wouldn't even be noticed, but she was grinding them with a dremel and inhaling the dust. She got really sick, but it was such obscure symptoms, doctors couldn't nail down what was causing it initially.Top-level comment
ScrollingTop-level comment
Hatting. Mad hatters are mad for a reason...Top-level comment
If you have a fast RC car, don’t crash into yourself. That shit hurts lolTop-level comment
Not really a killer in the traditional sense per se, but many professional musicians who don’t exercise proper technique when playing will often times develop chronic nerve conditions that inhibit their playing and sometimes even lead to career death.Top-level comment
Playing video games for hours daily is definitely one, long-time sitting ruins your whole body quietly.Top-level comment
Living has a 100% mortality rateTop-level comment
Only if you suffer from AGE.Reply
scrolling redditTop-level comment
I read a blerb under a wingsuit video that 2 of the 3 athletes featured in that video had died and it was basically just a matter of time until the 3rd guy died. Apparently wingsuiting is not a high survival sport.Top-level comment
Firegilding.Top-level comment
Living.Top-level comment
Lots of equestrians that need to put down some water on their indoor riding surface before they, too, discover silicosis.Top-level comment
DaydreamingTop-level comment
Motorbike. Just motorbike.Top-level comment
SkydivingTop-level comment
하이Top-level comment
DotaTop-level comment
Not really a hobby, but in my shop, I’m the only one who even wears a surgical mask when using a dremel on lead solder, and I routinely inhale any number of other questionable thingsTop-level comment
Nintendo Thumb.Top-level comment
Masterbation.Top-level comment
Video games don’t seem so bad after all.Top-level comment
Stained glass production uses a lot of lead, especially in the solder used to join the pieces together.Top-level comment
Almost all hobbies mentioned here are: don't do this to not fuck your respiratory systemTop-level comment
Magic the gathering.Top-level comment
Drinking alcoholTop-level comment
TCG - its gambling and developing poor posture all in one! I still love magic but I won't lie and say the makers aren't predatory and taking advantage of gambling mechanics, and sitting hunched playing all the time and being in a wierd position while organizing your collection will slowly destroy your back. Anyway, you can rip my shiny cardboard from my cold dead hands.Top-level comment
I think that MMA and boxing take the biggest toll on you over the long term, plus you could end up disabled at any time.Top-level comment
Being a musician. Playing instruments puts a lot of strain on your hands and arms. Also, being around loud amplifiers and drums without hearing protection will make you much more likely to develop tinnitus (ear ringing)Top-level comment
Sedentary binge-watching! Hours disappear and your posture gets completely destroyedTop-level comment
Oil painting of you're using turpentine. Turpentine will fuck you up all sorts of ways with long-term exposure if you're not handling it or ventilating properly, and even then it can still get you. Luckily modern alternatives to it exist so there's no reason to use turp anymore unless you're doing like a 16th century-only materials piece for a class or something.Top-level comment
DrinkingTop-level comment
analog photography. don't wear proper gear a couple times? make a habit of it? stuff other than film may develop lolTop-level comment
Cosplay. Idk how many times I've shaved fake fur workout a mask, used resin in a poorly vented space or stabbed myself with pins and needles 🫩Top-level comment
My dumb ass thought creating like a killer 🫠 hahahhaTop-level comment
Butt stuff.Top-level comment
Russian rouletteTop-level comment
Social mediaTop-level comment
Collecting and drinking whiskyTop-level comment
Scale modeling. Even if you don't use oil paints you will still expose yourself to glue fumes and that can (and probably will) take a toll on your respiratory system.Top-level comment
Fishing. If you fall in and drown, get eaten by a fish, or get struck by lightning on the boat…that’s your maker.Top-level comment
Horseback riding, hiking highest mountainsTop-level comment
Heavy drinking.Top-level comment
Studies shown cooking without ventilation hood causes lung damageTop-level comment
42.195km full course marathonTop-level comment
I heard (or read) a story about a strange guy that was notable for being able to repair the fine detailing in grandfather clocks and was extremely good at it. He acted extremely erratic at times and eventually just died “mysteriously”. One of the things he worked with constantly was mercury.Top-level comment
Reddit :-)Top-level comment
Weed smokingTop-level comment
Collecting hobbies instead of actually doing them. I spend more time watching YouTube videos about learning a skill than practicing the skill itself. It feels productive, but months later you realize you've mostly consumed content instead of creating anything.Top-level comment
underrated comment. IYKYKReply
You might lose your soul at it, be carefull and wear a maskReply
I’ve heard of funny stories actually…Reply
The thing that’s worth dying for.Reply
developing film rolls, there's some nasty chemicals involved in that process.Top-level comment
Drawing gives you an existential crisis when done long enough.Top-level comment
"I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."Top-level comment
Cave divingTop-level comment
Ninja assassinTop-level comment
Russian Roulette 😁 (Okay, maybe not always quiet… But would *you* hear it?)Top-level comment
Drugs 😂☠️Top-level comment
DoomscrollingTop-level comment
What I’m getting here is anything you love and enjoy doing will eventually kill you.Top-level comment
Stained glass. Between the grinding and breaking of glass licking back particles and fumes from soldering, chemical patina, etc. it’s a pretty unhealthy hobby if we don’t wear proper ppe and have proper ventilationTop-level comment
Oil paintingTop-level comment
Most don’t consider it but shooting/hunting. Lead is no joke de-lead after shooting fellasTop-level comment
Boxing. Stopped sparring 2 years ago but still see people well into their 30s and 40s got to war often.Top-level comment
Is this an assassin joke thwptTop-level comment
DelayTop-level comment
Knife juggling?Top-level comment
motorcycling. The older you get, the less careful you become. Reckless overtakes, reckless serpentine-driving plus the declining ability to drive curves well often result in crashes with oncoming cars or being thrown off the road. Plus we have a certain number of especially men dying on their bikes from heart attacks and heat strokes each summer. They are almost always middle-aged.Top-level comment
Volunteer firefighterTop-level comment
Jesus… I’m never breathing during a hobby againTop-level comment
Welding / car fabrication / filler dustTop-level comment
Glass-blowing can lead to emphysema. Also, as an oboe player… same. I have been lucky as an ex smoker.Top-level comment
Playing musical instruments. Any, really. It's known as the "musician disease"; it might lead to chronic tendinitis and arthritis. Very nasty! For that, it's important to practice good posture and proper gesture handling, but still, these do not prevent possibility for long term damage.Top-level comment
I collect knives, idk if that countsTop-level comment
Probably not that silent, but Russian RouletteTop-level comment
dating.Top-level comment
What I learned from this thread: just dieTop-level comment
Playing League of Legends. It doesn't kill your body, but it absolutely destroys your mental health and your faith in humanity. You start as a normal person and three seasons later you're having a full mental breakdown at 2 AM because a 14-year-old Yasuo main called you bad.Top-level comment
Anything sedentary if it is taking up so much of your time that you're not finding 60 minutes a day for physical activity.Top-level comment
Anything sedentary for hours, gaming, model building, sitting is the quiet one.Top-level comment
bagpipes definitely sound riskyTop-level comment
So everything enjoyable kills me. Got it, staying off the internet now, thanks for the reminder Reddit!Top-level comment
Interesting how a lot of the top responses involve respiratory issues. Folks, take care of your lungs. A general rule of thumb is that if you can smell something, it's not good for you - it's coating your lungs.Top-level comment
sitting for hours playing video games can really mess up your back and posture, I learned that the hard wayTop-level comment
Guys we get it, when your hobby has you breathing in curry farts and chlorine gas it may result in problems with your lungs smh. Good on yous for being so creative thoTop-level comment
Corporate America; sitting at a desk for 3/4 of your life.Top-level comment
Is a job a hobby though?Reply
Any branch of martial arts, except aikido I heard those guys practice until late 90s.Top-level comment
Cave diving.Top-level comment
Literally every one of the top 5 responses have been because of toxic fumes, can we get some ventilators?Top-level comment
Huffing carbon monoxideTop-level comment
Cave diving.Top-level comment
overthinkingTop-level comment
I heard that glass blowing can have some pretty horrible long term effects.Top-level comment
Soldering, welding anything. You can pretend you aren't impacted, but the sad reality is you are, you just already sold that survival instinct away.Top-level comment
\*\* Bob Ross has entered the chat \*\*Top-level comment
Easy solution to every hobby listed here: Be depressed. Poof! No more hobbies!Top-level comment
Everything is going to kill you. Why not just live your life doing what you want and not worry about the consequences. It would be worse to just dream, than never try something that you want to do with your life.Top-level comment
Great comment. Judging by this comment section, everything can kill you. Just wear PPE, rest and take good care of your health, your hobby won't kill you. Enjoying a happy and fulfilling life is way better for your health than the opposite.Reply
So, just don't fucking do anything. I didn't put my soup into the fridge for 3 hours. I'm dead now.Top-level comment
3d printing. Shit gives out toxic gases. A guy i knew who does alot has a whole room dedicated to it with a airfilter unit for the winterTop-level comment
SmokingTop-level comment
For a brief summary of all replies here, watch this video: [Everything That Will Kill You... From A to Z]([link removed]Top-level comment
Eating poison sandwichesTop-level comment
Table top RPGs: you'll eat so many snacks and drink too much, but mainly you'll buy and store so many games that you'll lose every penny you ever earned and get thrown out onto the streets.Top-level comment
Endless scrollin. A silent killer of time and attention.Top-level comment
Roleplaying a ninja I guess.Top-level comment
OK so from this thread i learned i have to stop breathing when im doing hobbies because the top 10 comments so far are all related to breathing or ventilationTop-level comment
Waiting for a miracle to happen.Top-level comment
Binge-watching movies and TV shows in a bad chair My posture is completely ruined, but I just can't stop when it's a good thriller!Top-level comment
Gardening and anything outdoors with chemicals. With how much stuff is used to kills pests and clean your home, it can be dangerous long term. I'm wearing rubber gloves (industrial ones) on even the smallest of jobs.Top-level comment
Russian rouletteTop-level comment
my first thoughts are adventure sports like rock climbing and base jumpingTop-level comment
SkydivingTop-level comment
Video gamesTop-level comment
Oil painting with thinners RIP BobTop-level comment
Surprised I haven’t seen skiing. Had a ski accident in February, resulting in a depressed tibial plateau fracture, torn MCL, torn meniscus, and lost 2.5cm of bone.Top-level comment
You guys, how about just enjoying the time you have left? That said building an atombomb in the backyard might just be stupid.Top-level comment
gardening. i thought i was going to save money on food but i just spent $300 on raised beds and specialized soil to grow two tiny cherry tomatoesTop-level comment
Scrolling reels on InstagramTop-level comment
Playing League of Legends.Top-level comment
What I'm getting from this thread is that I'm safe continuing my singular hobby of reading.Top-level comment
Paper cuts. Paper cuts will get you in an early grave.Reply
for me its watching short videos. Time flies once you open it and its a waste of time.Top-level comment
I saw nothing about aquariums I'm in the clear. Unless drowning countsTop-level comment
Collecting hobbies instead of actually doing them.Top-level comment
Spending your entire weekend in bed, wrapped in a blanket burrito, doing absolutely nothing but existing.Top-level comment
GolfTop-level comment
Usare il mouseTop-level comment
Ignoring exercise while making desk work your entire lifestyle. Every day one hour excercise is must.Top-level comment
Hobbies in general. You guys need to be workingTop-level comment
that's wild, never knew bagpipe lung was a real thing. makes sense though, all those enclosed pipes are basically a petri dish if you're not careful about maintenance.Top-level comment
Yes, most microtransaction games.Reply
Are the radiation levels really that dangerous if you keep the pieces in good condition? Genuinely curiousReply
Cave diving. One of the holy bibles of cave diving "Basic Cave Diving: A Blueprint for Survival" was written by one of the top cave divers that ever lived, Sheck Exley, and is virtually required reading for all cave divers. He died at like age 45 cave diving fwiw.Top-level comment
Luckily my hobby is cycling,might still get killed tho.Cars are dangerousTop-level comment
Especially in TexasReply
Too soonReply
Crop dusting particularly if you keep catching the same peopleTop-level comment
Cave diving.Top-level comment
Painting and anything with Varnish as that stuff can cause brain damage if you're not careful.Top-level comment
It appears that breathing is a major risk. So is not breathing I believe.Top-level comment
Warhammer. I've heard people describe it as 'plastic crack' for a reason.Top-level comment
In addition to the addictive elements lots of the old models contain leadReply
I’m a pilot. Airplanes still use leaded gasoline, so lead exposure is a serious risk. Also, when the engine fails, it’s pretty quiet and that will kill you.Top-level comment
Camouflaged hunting, if I had to guessTop-level comment
ChessTop-level comment
Illustrating, drawing, painting. Affects your posture, if you're doing all three digitally then your eyesight, but overall gross body pain...Top-level comment
Shooting as a hobby. You should get tested for lead levels if youre doing it a lot. Especially suppressed. The gas has all sorts of shit in it.Top-level comment
doom scrollingTop-level comment
NinjitsuTop-level comment
Real life froggerTop-level comment
Russian Roulette is kinda riskyTop-level comment
Wood turning.Top-level comment
Pottery and ceramics. Silicosis is real.Top-level comment
glovingTop-level comment
I think video games if you aren't careful. Sounds innocent enough, but a lot of people get so hooked on them they rarely leave home or really understand how to socialize outside of those games. They socialize online, but it's not the same. I have quietly been getting away from games although I do play them. I have just moved to single player games that I can drop whenever. I spent so many years and hours playing games with "friends" it's easy to lose hours and when you add up those hours there is so much you missed in between.Top-level comment
Jewelry making. Specifically, wire jewelry. My friend started making jewelry in middle school and by the time she was in college she was making decent money on the pieces she sold. She had to stop completely by the time she was 25–she developed crippling carpel tunnel syndrome in both wrists. She has since had two surgeries and still has issues, 15 years later.Top-level comment
Uhmm hand sewingTop-level comment
Not a verry known fact but, the most dangerous sport in term of of accident/injury is equitation...Top-level comment
like, horses then?Reply
Diving.Top-level comment
Shooting heroinTop-level comment
ScrollingTop-level comment
Has anyone chimed in about model trains?Top-level comment
Wet Plate Photography. It's an old photographic process. One of the chemicals traditionally used in development is potassium cyanide (used as the "fixer" after development) would kill yiu pretty easily. Mishandling the silver nitrate could blind you. And there is also lots of ether around to make the collodion, which is sorta kinda explosive. The process went out of fashion after the civil war but is still done by some fancy folks who like traditional processes and the look that it provides, largely due to the fact that it is only sensitive to blue through UV lightTop-level comment
TV watching post retirement. No all but I had a significant subset post 65 in PT and nursing-adults. Let me say I loved my work-I still love it. I had a lot of repeat clients. But excuse my candor. I had a lot deconditioned from lack of mobility (I walk to and from the kitchen…bathroom—BS). No wonder this group of clients I knew to watch that TV from waking to sleeping were in stasis mostly in the same room. No wonder a fall, post surgical hip/knee arthroplasty, or stroke—knocks this group for a loop. My ortho patients were mostly compliant. The lazy ones that watched sun-up/sundown. Of both groups, this is small percentage, but men can be the biggest wimps-women pushed/C sectioned those babies, ( beauty injections /high heels count too). Rare for a woman-can’t recall one it was so rare that could take pain. We can. Moral of the story… Be active do more than what is deemed just enough. If you’re depressed, the worst thing you can do is isolate all the time. So I understand mental illness is a concern for some and that’s just the way it goes. But so does breathing and stretching, and it relieves pain at the same time.Top-level comment
Classical haberdashery.Top-level comment
Autoerotic asphyxiationTop-level comment
What about the Clock Makers who used Chromium or something like that.Top-level comment
Radium?Reply
ChessTop-level comment
I think I'm safe with houseplants but I know sphagnum moss and pearlite is deadly to breathe so I guess we're all screwed one way or anotherTop-level comment
Lego will kill your bank account if you let it.Top-level comment
Meditating. /sTop-level comment
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this one yet, but, without vigilant masking and proper ventilation, mushroom farmers are at risk for severe, potentially lifelong, respiratory issues as a result of spore inhalation. It’s pretty wild, you can eat and work around mushrooms for years and then suddenly acquire a mushroom allergy if precautions aren’t taken to protect the respiratory system against spore exposure.Top-level comment
In terms of deaths per number of participants, there are approximately 220k general aviation (light) aircraft in the United States, and there are 300-400 deaths *per year*.Top-level comment
Being an amateur pilotTop-level comment
WeldingTop-level comment
The lungs hate hobbies 😂Top-level comment
It seems one must acquire the taste for knitting. It has to be the safest hobby.Top-level comment
“Sitting too long. It’s not dramatic, but it quietly turns your back/hips into problems.Top-level comment
\>GooningTop-level comment
... I am not the kind of person who should have read ANYTHING in this post ... :( So long, Reddit; I'm going to go die of EVERYTHING now.Top-level comment
alcohol and drugsTop-level comment
Smoking cigs. I’m currently trying to see how long I can beat the “system”.Top-level comment
Carbon Monoxide Detecting.Top-level comment
Ripping cigarettes.Top-level comment
CocaineTop-level comment
Gaming T\_TTop-level comment
MotorcyclesTop-level comment
RunningTop-level comment
Anyone that properly trains with guns (shoots a lot). The amount of lead exposure is quite high just from handling the bullets, not to mention the targets. Steel targets are the worst at this, and the ground around them will be impressively contaminated.Top-level comment
[playing the bagpipes]([link removed]Top-level comment
Any hobbies (or jobs, for that matter) that work with hair fibers, real or synthetic. Think dog groomers, cosplayers, fursuit makers, or any other crafter that uses stuff like faux fur — if you don't wear a mask when shaving hair/fur you can develop what's called "groomer's lung" from inhaling the tiny hair particles that fly into the air. It's even possible for hairstylists to get it. As this thread seems to illustrate, there are lots of fun ways to ruin your lungs lolTop-level comment
Knife juggling.Top-level comment
Toy Photography It’s silently killing my walletTop-level comment
DrugsTop-level comment
MethTop-level comment
So you’re saying… “everything in moderation?” Including moderation?Top-level comment
DrugsTop-level comment
SmokingTop-level comment
I can be a serial planner that never executes…Top-level comment
Collecting expensive gear instead of enjoying the hobby itself. Your wallet takes the biggest hit. 😅Top-level comment
Golf. It kills my girlfriend’s patience and my walletTop-level comment
Drawing with graphite never did me wrongTop-level comment
Glassblowing will really fuck up your lungs and eyes and skin.Top-level comment
Russian RouletteTop-level comment
Crochet = arthritis in your hands from them hurting like hell when you don't want to stop making cute stuffTop-level comment
Damn, beat me to it.Reply
Haha yeah. I had lateral pelvic tilt from sitting more often on my right hip while gaming. Took 6 months of physical therapy and continued stretching to keep the pain at bay.Reply
Especially if you were hunting with Dick Cheney.Reply
2/3 times a year I’m reminded of that and 2/3 times a year I look at my bird hunting buddies a little closer 🤣Reply
Depends what kind - resin printing involves some nasty stuff. FDM printing with ABS, ASA, or nylon produces both VOC fumes and particulates so you want good filtration there too. Printing with PLA or PETG, the most popular materials, seems relatively safe. They don't produce any toxic gases and the particles are an order of magnitude less than what ABS puts out. I'm on the cautious side and still recommend running an air filter and not spending too much time next to the printer while it's running, but the risks are far lower with those two materials.Reply
Cocaine, probably. But I’ve never mastered it. Those 10,000 hours are so taxing.Top-level comment
[link removed] The stuff they use to make it…. And you can’t even wear a mask while sniffing itReply
Free \*Solo\* Climbing seems like a pretty obvious one. Edit: correctedTop-level comment
Free climbing just means you aren't using equipment to help you do the actual climbing. You still use a harness and rope. Free solo climbing on the other hand...Reply
I stand corrected.Reply
Free soloingTop-level comment
Reading these comments, you can really get ahead by wearing a SCBA while doing most hobbies.Top-level comment
rock climbers tend to fall to their deaths far away from civilization. longer you do it, the more likely it'll happenTop-level comment
That isn't even remotely true . Statistically that is the most nonsensical comment in the thread. Less than 1% of climbers put themselves in that sort of scenario.Reply
cocainTop-level comment
running…it ages youTop-level comment
In summary, any type of arts and craftsTop-level comment
BASE jumpingTop-level comment
This question reminds me of the pod cast called “S-town”Top-level comment
Motorcycles & street bikesTop-level comment
Wendy’s fries and chili dip.Top-level comment
Organ grinding. Eventually the monkey will turn on you.Top-level comment
Fcuk! No wonder I have no hobbies!Top-level comment
Mercury connoisseurTop-level comment
Fish keeping - hobbyists always develop multi tank syndrome that eventually leads to financial ruin, divorce and death due stress or broken heart. And those are the lucky ones… some get swallowed by duckweed.Top-level comment
Auto-erotic asphyxiation. Just ask David Carradine.Top-level comment
Sampling vast quantities of Scotch. ... and playing bagpipes.Top-level comment
D&D.Top-level comment
Pottery - especially when trimming dried clay and creating dust, increasing risk of silicosis. If you don’t work in a well-ventilated space, it can wreak havoc on your respiratory system.Top-level comment
Shopping by touching the toxic receiptsTop-level comment
Reading in dim light or scrolling your phone in the dark - feels harmless, but your eyesight quietly takes the hit over the years.Top-level comment
Drinking whiskey. My wife tells me that, if I come home drunk one more time from the pub, I'm a dead man. My passing is inevitable.Top-level comment
We have a lot of lung issues listed. Has anyone mentioned radon or asbestos yet?Top-level comment
aquariums. you buy one tiny betta fish on a whim and six months later your entire living room looks like a miniature sea world exhibitTop-level comment
Asbestos collecting.Top-level comment
So basically every hobby fucks up your lungs? Got itTop-level comment
Warhammer. Because eventually i *will* find youTop-level comment
Grenade jugglingTop-level comment
Recreational meth/crack/heroin use.Top-level comment
Passion for cooking meth. An acquired taste for the sophisticated palletReply
Horseback ridingTop-level comment
equestrian hobbies, self explanatoryTop-level comment
Perler beads. When you iron them, toxic fumes will build if there's no proper ventilation. Long-term exposure to these vapors can cause damage to our body.Top-level comment
Drag. Makeup and wig glue will start to do damage to your skin, and the dance moves associated will start to injure your body. so many queens have had hips and knees replaced.Top-level comment
Doing nails regularly in a salon. There was a time I owned two nail-salons. You cannot imagine the chemicals used in there and the exposure for clients and even more for workers. Most substances are not properly controlled and regulated neither here in the EU, nor US or elsewhere. There are so many different cancerous toxins constantly being breathed in, it is unbelievable. The more of the ingredients in beauty products for nails you look up, the worse it gets 💀 …all of that besides the very common nail fungal infections from doing them too often (until the nail gets so thin that you basically might as well work on open skin); but that is not a real killer, just a health issue. Either way I see girls with beautiful nails through a very different lens since then 🙈 Maybe like a fan of chicken-nuggies after seeing Jamie Oliver’s take on them. Still like them but with a kind of disgusted aftertaste in mind…Top-level comment
Jiujistu, joints aren’t happyTop-level comment
Doomscrolling, and everyone knows why , they just dont accept that its a silent killerTop-level comment
Silencer builder. The more pistol silencers you craft and use, the more people die. It’s very rewarding, but it leaves a trail of death. But like most hobbies, wearing a mask may save your life.Top-level comment
GAMINGG definitely and overthinking tooTop-level comment
Collecting hobbies instead of actually doing them. Buying the gear becomes the hobby.Top-level comment
Sounds like reading and photography are safe.Top-level comment
Cave divingTop-level comment
Beekeeping. You can get stung for years with no issues, but continuous exposure to bee venom can unexpectedly trigger severe, life-threatening anaphylactic shock later in lifeTop-level comment
Smoking weed.Top-level comment
Staying up late and lack of sleep. Most of us here knows what happens later on when we disregard or can't get proper sleep. Most of us I know, wants a good oneTop-level comment
Making things with resin without a proper respiratorTop-level comment
How is smoking not the first one on this list?Top-level comment
Yeah killer-horses !Reply
I've heard rock climbingTop-level comment
Nah it’s been amazing for me. I started in my 50s after a bad car accident and spine injury. It not only brought me back but I’m stronger than I was in my 30s.Reply
Reddit is fucking obsessed with masks since COVID 😂Top-level comment
Wh40k. Actually it's a loud killer or one's financeTop-level comment
DopeTop-level comment
Meth probablyTop-level comment
i wonder if all the nano/microplastics in guitar picks end up effecting your health. i go through like one a week lolTop-level comment
Jesus, how hard do you strum?Reply
i play for around 9-10 hours a day and am particular about the feel of my plectrums lolReply
If you play for 9 hours a day your wrists are gonna kill you way faster than the microplastics. Absolutely insane! Take breaks my manReply
i used to have a lot of issues a couple of years ago. spent time with physiotherapists (posture and shoulder/forearm/wrist/finger strengthening)and a pro jazz player to perfect my technique coupled with 8.5 string gauge and i can play fluidly with no tension all day!Reply
Sounds like you're doing fine then! Even if I had the time to play that much, I would get instantly burned outReply
SteroidsTop-level comment
It's not really a silent killer because there's usually a loud thud or splat.Reply
Playing videogames.Top-level comment
Yanking in the silverback gorilla pen in your local zoo. Most people look for a thrill by pleasuring themselves in one of the strongest animal’s pen (pound for pound) between 1-4 AM when they believe they are asleep. It’s a little known fact that male gorillas have terrible night vision and Nocturnal Penile Tumescence (AKA the dark time hornies) and mistake these wayward wankers for female silver back gorillas. The result is like a puppy with a rag doll, but people’s commitment to their fetish is admirable. There needs to be more government funding put into awareness that if your going to money shot inside a zoo to get your kicks, that you do it from outside the pen; plus you can discover multiple animals and make a game of it to have them “catch ‘em all”. Thank you for listening to my Ted Talk.Top-level comment
Gaming. Ultra sedentary high stress lifestyle.Top-level comment
Boxing first, then kickboxing, then mma, then other martial arts. Then there’s obviously football (uk name) as they header the ball a lot and don’t wear protection, so can lead to cte after many years. I’m sure I’ve missed plenty, but that’s off the top of me headTop-level comment
singingTop-level comment
dear god how many people has perished from your singing?Reply
lost count. i am terrible at singing 😢Reply
Making methTop-level comment
Do you consider smoking cigs, vapers, weed a hobby? If so, thatTop-level comment
Russian roulette.Top-level comment
scrolling redditTop-level comment
Making sculptures out of local blue mussel shells, without proper protection. [link removed]Top-level comment
OMG that’ s terribleReply
Stealing hubcaps off moving vehicles to impress local dogs. my knees have never been the same after crouching running long distances.Top-level comment
Getting hammered. Doubly so if your names Anne Widdicombe.Top-level comment
CocainaTop-level comment
riding motorcycles. 80-90% of riders I know have been in life threatening accidentsTop-level comment
Growing cannabisTop-level comment
Why?Reply
I just keep adding more and more equipment, new genetics, all of it hahaReply
Breath Holding?Top-level comment
Being a technician. Started when I was 15. My hearing sucks, I've had hernia surgery and my joints all hurt! Also caught a transmission with my neck and got a few vertebrae fused. Im 45 lolTop-level comment
Flying without learning from mistakes.Top-level comment
to be fair, with flying, your first mistake could be your last.Reply
Road biking. Only a matter of time before you have a serious crash or get hit by a car.Top-level comment
Video games - social isolation, terrible posture, enormous time suck, and absolutely limits your opportunities to find a romantic/sexual partner. And no, speaking in to your headset and being called the N word by a 12 year old white kid does not count as social stimulationTop-level comment
Collecting hobbies instead actually doing them.Top-level comment
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Couldn't have said it better myself.Reply
Shark teasingTop-level comment
Breathing. It seems like when done in conjunction with any of the hobbies above it leads to health problems. I think I’m gonna switch to a different hobbyTop-level comment
CyclingTop-level comment
Collecting and breeding SpidersTop-level comment
Ignoring your mental health because you’re ‘too busy.’ Stress becomes your baseline.Top-level comment
I can't use cyanoacrylates (Super Glues) which are very prevalent these days. The benefits of needing just a few drops and almost instant setting has made them extremely popular. I noticed a couple of hours after using super glue a tightness in my chest and wheezing/breathing difficulties almost like an asthma attack. So I only use it rarely and if at all take it outside into the fresh air. I've often wondered about the long term effect on people who use these products regularly in non ventilated conditions.Top-level comment
Yeah seems we need better options for lungsTop-level comment
PC Gaming. You need to move your body a little each day.Top-level comment
As others have said, playing video games for extended periods or binge watching tv. You want to avoid anything with the word "binge". I hate that companies use this word to advertise things, like no dude, binging something is not good.Top-level comment
DrinkingTop-level comment
Shooting (especially at indoor ranges): Exposure to lead and other heavy metals is not great. Turns out the shock waves from the cartridges discharging may also cause brain damage. I always washed my hands when I went to the range to try and stay healthy but nobody knew about the brain damage risks and we just kinda trusted the range to have good ventilation.Top-level comment
karma kazanmaya calisiyorum sorryTop-level comment
Drinking and smoking lolTop-level comment
🙂‍↔️Top-level comment
LifeTop-level comment
Breathing. Every single person who has ever died has at one point breathed.Top-level comment
DrinkingTop-level comment
Chess. The heart palpations I get over a single 400 elo game is ridiculousTop-level comment
Endurance Sports. Marathon running, ultra running, long course triathlon (eg Ironman), endurance cycling, marathon swimming, etc. In moderation, the long intense exercise and training cycles can be good for your health however it can, over years, lead to heart conditions like AFib, Athletes Heart, scarring of the heart muscle (Myocardial Fibrosis), and calcification. On top of the long term effects, that type of exercise can expose congenital heart issues that would never have been a problem in most people. I’ve known a few amateur athletes who have died in their 30’s and 40’s because of an undiagnosed heart murmur or tear that popped during a race.Top-level comment
Moonshine tastingTop-level comment
Probably smoking cigars or cigarettes. It might seem harmless as a hobby, but over time it seriously increases the risk of cancer and heart disease.Top-level comment
Not a killer but extreme sports, martial arts like boxing, kick [account] and MMA are things that you might do in your 20s and most possibly will end up with injuries you will carry on for the rest of your lifeTop-level comment
**Miniature painting / Warhammer 40k.** You start with one cool little figurine. Ten years later, your posture is completely ruined, you have the lower back of an 80-year-old from hunching over a tiny brush, your wallet is permanently empty, and you have a "shame pile" of 200 unpainted boxes staring at you.Top-level comment
Heart attaackTop-level comment
Smoking?Top-level comment
Oil painting!!! RIP Bob Ross...Top-level comment
Every Atlus song with vocalsTop-level comment
resin craftsTop-level comment
Horse ridingTop-level comment
boxing, the more you do it the more head knocks you receive. Over time all the head trauma adds up and if you're not carefully can lead to server brain damageTop-level comment
Anything with a social stigma. Pornography is oneTop-level comment
Reloading your own ammunition for sport or competition shooting. There is obviously the chance you make a mistake (like using the wrong powder or too much powder), causing the gun to blow up, sending you and your remaining fingers to the hospital. But there is also the long-term risk of lead exposure from handling the bullets and from the dust when you tumble/clean your used brass casings (breathing or skin contact) Not to be outdone - also the danger of a primer going off in the press. Which could potentially set off the adjacent primers and powder supply in a chain reaction. Wear a mask. Wear eye protection. Wash your hands with special heavy-metal removing soap. Pay VERY close attention to what you’re doing. Don’t get distracted.Top-level comment
Welding. Most people think it's just the smoke and fire that's dangerous but there is much more to it. I work as a welder and I always wear a respirator under my helmet to keep myself safe. Welding fumes are incredibly dangerous. Welding on things like aluminum, stainless steel, and especially chromium are even more dangerous. These fumes are linked to the development of Alzheimer's, Parkinson's Dementia, and of course brain, lung, and many other kinds of cancers. The light is also dangerous and not enough people protect themselves adequately in my opinion. The light that comes off of welding is UV radiation like the sun but much more concentrated and right near your skin and eyes. Not wearing sunblock or wearing a good shirt and welding for a long time will give you a wicked sun burn. Not having a dark enough lense will sun burn your eyes. Of course also the sparks are dangerous but those are pretty obvious. Welding can also be very loud depending on what form of welding you are doing and also the material. MIG on steel and TIG on aluminum are pretty loud. I have no experience with chrome so I don't know. The reason I bring this up is because so many of my coworkers in their 20s can't hear shit. If you want to weld just wear the proper ppe. It'll just make your life better. Trust me.Top-level comment
Teaching high school studentsTop-level comment
Wing suit sky diving….well maybe not silentTop-level comment
Crochet. I gave myself tennis elbow that refuses to heal.Top-level comment
I thought the worst risk of a hobby was spending all my money, not getting a lung infection from a bagpipe.Top-level comment
My uncle was a world champion Russian roulette player three years running. Then came year four........Reply
Motorcycling. One day, you’re silent.Top-level comment
silent lying lying in hospital bed? or to cars surrounding?Reply
video games. u become hopelessly addicted. the longer the addiction goes on for the more one believes its actually a normal part of life.Top-level comment
Blowgun shooting.Top-level comment
Being honest with answers.Top-level comment
Porn.Top-level comment
Antique watch radium restoration...ya gotta lick the brush if you want it to look authentic. ;)Top-level comment
Lol you made me giggle.Reply
CigarsTop-level comment
Bodybuilding. Many deaths every year from the exposure to steroids.Top-level comment
Russian Roulette…Top-level comment
HeroinTop-level comment
Not a hobby.Reply
Golf - stressTop-level comment
High volume target shooters/ reloaders often have elevated lead levels.Top-level comment
Gooning I ain’t wrong tho am ITop-level comment
CocaineTop-level comment
Espresso 😔Top-level comment
DrinkingTop-level comment
Extreme stuff like base jumping or skydiving. Its never a matter of "if" something goes wrong its when and sometimes no amount of prep can save you from catastrophic equipment failure that your life would otherwise depend on.Top-level comment
How does this qualify as a "silent-killer"?Reply
Oh fuck, I watched a documentary about base jumping and one of the guys was taking about when you progress to getting a “squirrel Suit”. He said that once you get one, you’ve got about 6 months to liveReply
I will push back on this. Skydiving is actually incredibly safe. It’s one of those weird things where people‘s perception of risk is very different from actual risk; a common statistic bandied about is that the most dangerous part of skydiving is driving to the drop zone. And this is true. Decades upon decades of development have made the gear extremely reliable, safety procedures and methodologies are well developed, and a rigidly adhered to training and licensing process have been extremely effective in reducing fatality statistics to nearly rounding errors. There are many people out there who have been skydiving for their entire lives, and have many thousands of skydives. I personally know somebody who stopped counting after 32,000 jumps. If you do it relatively sanely and conservatively, it is easily a hobby that is done well into your 60s and 70s. BASE jumping, on the other hand, is a completely different animal. It is so much more dangerous than it looks, and it *already* looks super dangerous. But no, the more you learn about it, it’s actually vastly more dangerous than it even looks, which tells you something about just how insanely dangerous it actually is.Reply
Agreed. Base and skydiving are incredibly different, to be grouped together like that.Reply
Skydiving is generally conducted at an altitude where you've got time to deploy a reserve if something goes wrong. (Or it'll deploy automatically if you're falling too fast) You can literally lose consciousness as soon as you exit the aircraft and you're probably just looking at something like a broken ankle. There are 3 general things that will kill you skydiving. Plane crash, landing on something unfortunate or not wearing a helmet (water, power lines, etc.) or you were trying to do stunts close to the ground. Base Jumping puts you in the 3rd category by default. Everything but an an aircraft going down is entirely within the realm of "don't be stupid".Reply
> There are 3 general things that will kill you skydiving. Plane crash, landing on something unfortunate or not wearing a helmet (water, power lines, etc.) or you were trying to do stunts close to the ground It’s more nuanced than that: [link removed] The largest category, by far, is experienced skydivers attempting high performance landings under very very small canopies.Reply
I think that falls under doing stupid things close to the ground.Reply
That's simply not true. It's statistically significantly more dangerous than driving, and even more dangerous than riding a motorcycle. It's not so dangerous that you're guaranteed to die, but let's not pretend that it's "incredibly safe".Reply
You only say this because you don’t know anything about skydiving. (Or likely anything else that you’re talking about) In 2024, there were 3.88 million skydives made in the United States. This resulted in a grand total of 9 fatalities. *Nine.* Nine fatalities out of 3,880,000 skydives. 2025 was a bit of a bummer year, with 16 fatalities out of 3.47 million skydives. The last few years have mostly hovered around similar marks, ~3.5 millions jumps per year, 10-20 fatalities. Detailed breakdown of how/what/why is here: [link removed] More general safety info is here: [link removed] Again, this is one of those things where people’s perception of something differs immensely from the actual reality. People think skydiving is this crazy insanely dangerous activity… while it’s actually not. And the statistics back this up. As for motorcycles… I taught the MSF Basic Rider Course for 4 years, and then Total Control for another 4. I have six motorcycles and over 250,000 miles of riding experience (you can check my post history if you like, it’s not hidden). You will not find a more ardent motorcycle safety acolyte than I. **Motorcycles are INSANELY dangerous.** Far more so than everyone understands. People think they know how dangerous they are, but no they’re not even *close* to reality. Think about it this way: When skydivers get killed, *it makes the news*. There are articles written, interviews, investigations. Local news sends a reporter out and they do their talk-piece to the camera outside the DZ gates. Forensic-level examination of the gear, of any footage, witness statements are collected. Big official multi-dozen page reports are published a year or two later about what happened. When *motorcyclists* get killed? Theres a shrug and their remains are hosed off the side of the road by the highway crews. No one notices. That’s how common motorcycle fatalities are, and how rare skydiving fatalities are.Reply
Traditional sky diving is very safe the risks are surprisingly low, base jumping and proximity wing suit flying are where the risks increase significantly.Reply
Those wingsuit and "pull straps to steer" videos on YT and FB are all in see in my feed and I swear - in think Devil is tempting me to kill me. But fuck I'm so jealous of those people who do itReply
As long as you only do it out of airplanes and treat them like a normal skydive, not doing any of the cliff and hill proximity flying nonsense (which we generally referred to as “proxy flying”), wingsuiting can also be done with a very reasonable degree of safety. Compared to a normal skydive it does have additional risks, but they can be mitigated and the actual experience is exactly as fun as you imagine. I have ~150 wingsuit jumps myself. Honestly the biggest thing it takes is just money. Skydiving, like anything that involves airplanes, is an extremely expensive sport. Just getting your license and buying your first set of used gear will set you back $10k *easily*, and the costs never really end. Soon you want a new canopy, there’s additional camps and classes to take, more discipline to learn, and time in the wind tunnel to help get good. And you need a minimum of 200 normal sky dives before you can even take a wing suit class, and even then I think that’s low. I would strongly recommend somebody have at least 300 to 400 skydives before they start wingsuiting. And btw, those wingsuits cost ~$2,000 if you’re buying new. Usually people will find something used to start with, but eventually you need to get one made for you as a perfect fit is extremely important to getting the best possible performance out of them.Reply
Before I get even close to skydiving, I need to drop a person off my back... Weight wise 😉Reply
Base jumping yes, Skydiving not really that dangerous. Also not really silent either lol.Reply
BASE jumping looks so amazing g as does wingsuits. But im just too good at math to play.Reply
Not very silent though.Reply
Pushing your wife's buttons...Top-level comment
MMA.Top-level comment
Anything where PPE is merely recommended. It's usually recommended for a reason, but the things that get you are cumulative and not instant. If you do it once, you'll probably be fine but still use PPE. If you do it regularly, use PPE. That way you can continue enjoying it regularly.Top-level comment
CigarsTop-level comment
Art! Drawing for long enough without taking the necessary breaks, techniques to reduce muscle/tendon stress, etc can lead to carpal tunnel and arthritis. Although I'm not sure it could be considered a 'killer' since these conditions don't *directly* kill you.Top-level comment
I feel like I want to ask: which hobbies are NOT silent killers and only offer benefits? Cos so far... Everything I can think off has become a nonoTop-level comment
Yoga, just have to learn when to hold your breathReply
I’m a gearhead car enthusiast. I’ve had 13 roadster/convertible cars in my life so far. I’m losing hearing in my left ear (US, LHD cars) because of the constant wind noise from having the top down. I’m good about sunscreen though, so no skin issues.Top-level comment
Video games. Been addicted to a certain video game the last 8 months and it’s completely taken over my brain. I constantly think about it and even dream about it. It’s silently killing every other hobby I used to love to do.Top-level comment
Everyone i know who got into mountain biking stopped due to injuriesTop-level comment
Heroin connoisseurTop-level comment
**Trampolining** \- lower back problems, neck problems, potentially some brain damage and that’s just from the G-forces, broken bones and other injuries from falling is another thing.Top-level comment
Thank you Reddit, now I have no hobbies. I will just go sit in my room and stare at the ceiling. Wait ... a sedentary lifestyle is a bad hobby too!! F#$[account]Top-level comment
Living, not a single person who lived hasn't dies from it so far. It has a 100% mortality rateTop-level comment
Stamp collecting. Killed FDR. Must be the adhesivesTop-level comment
Anxious redditors taking the joy out of life again. Why am I here?Top-level comment
Underwater cave divingTop-level comment
Astronomy. It involves sitting alone in the dark for hours. Science has shown loneliness is worse for you than smokingTop-level comment
For me these would be - Anything that convinces you "just one more hour." Gaming, scrolling social media, gambling, even work. The hobby isn't the silent killer—losing track of time, sleep, movement, and relationships is. Long-distance driving as a hobby. Sitting for hours, constant stress, poor eating habits on the road, and fatigue can creep up on you over the years. Most people don't think of it as physically demanding until the effects start showing. Doomscrolling - People don't even call it a hobby, but if it's how you spend every evening, it quietly steals your attention, sleep, and ability to focus. Any hobby without moderation. Even reading, coding, gaming, or painting can become a silent killer if it means sitting for 8–10 hours a day, skipping sleep, ignoring exercise, and isolating yourself. It's rarely the hobby—it's the imbalance.Top-level comment
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Doing gel nail frequently in poor ventilation exposes you to toxic volatile chemicals and long-term UVA radiation, which slowly damages your respiratory tract, nail beds and hand skin silently over years.Top-level comment
Damn, now I want to know what are healthy hobbies, long-term. Like, what are hobbies that healthy centenarians have been doing their whole life?Top-level comment
I’m thinking things like walking, if that counts as a hobby.Reply
It can be. Or it can just be exercise. Depends on how you approach it, I guess.Reply
MotorcycleTop-level comment
This is why I switch hobbies every 6 months, but now my wallet has died.Top-level comment
Owning and maintaining Subarus. Giant anxiety boxes and wallet killers 😅Top-level comment
Online surfing :)Top-level comment
So glad my hobby in body building is boring and safe lolTop-level comment
Phone scrolling. You blink and somehow it's midnight, and you don't even remember what you looked at.Top-level comment
Crack cocaineTop-level comment
Birthday partiesTop-level comment
Passing out on purposeTop-level comment
David Carradine (sp? Agrees)Reply
Smoking cigarettes 🚬Top-level comment
dude. i think it’s any sport activity. Because it kills your kneesTop-level comment
Top 3 comments are respiratory illness from hobbies 😭Top-level comment
N🌸🫡Top-level comment
CodingTop-level comment
Sitting. Gaming, watching TV, office work, driving. We were not built to sit 12 hours a day. It's killing our backs, hearts, and mental health in slow motion.Top-level comment
FacebookTop-level comment
coal minesTop-level comment
Isolation.Top-level comment
MethTop-level comment
EatingTop-level comment
Drugs.Top-level comment
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Bagpipes, definitely. No one survives that hobby untouched, after a while it becomes a full time attack on everyone nearby.Top-level comment
What's the problem with bagpipe players?Top-level comment
Spending all your time playing video games.Top-level comment
Good grief! I’m scared to look out of my window as a hobby nowTop-level comment
Hat making, 17th century style.Top-level comment
Excessive eatting.Top-level comment
cave divingTop-level comment
Doomscrolling…ironic, yes.Top-level comment
SmokingTop-level comment
i havent seen anything for reading. am i in the clear or is there secret dust that destroys my lungs too?Top-level comment
Leveling your character in World of Warcraft to get to max level by killing the dire wolfs in the first area over and over again.Top-level comment
cave diving. Its all fun in games untill one goes in a cave called, "The couch crevasse"Top-level comment
Smoking. One year your enjoying your life and the next 3 or 5 you have stage 1 lung cancer. Learned that from my friend.Top-level comment
Woodworking, resin crafting, DIY projects, bagpipes, and bonsai Repeated inhalation of fine wood dust (especially certain species), solvent/resin fumes, mold, or spores can damage the lungs over time. Documented cases include “bagpipe lung” (hypersensitivity pneumonitis from fungal growth inside instruments leading to scarring), respiratory irritation or disease from sawdust, and higher lung-cancer risk linked to certain long-term DIY activities involving carcinogens (painting, furniture refinishing, model-building, carpentry). Bonsai and gardening with sphagnum moss have been flagged for spore-related issues. Risks rise with poor ventilation and years of unprotected exposure.Top-level comment
Ig every hobby when does extensively it's a silent killer broTop-level comment
Smoking, I suppose. I think you can take it to hobby level.Top-level comment
From what I have seen being obsessed with running may be great through your 50’s but very bad outcome if you live into your 70’s 80’s. Living through your 90’s on those legs! No thank you!Top-level comment
Archery.Top-level comment
I second this. Arrows may not be quite as dangerous as guns, but you still need to be really careful.Reply
People who do ultra marathons, iron man etc. The few friends I have who take that seriously always look older than they should be. The continues intense stress on your body ages you.Top-level comment
They always seem to be not all there in the head either. I’m not sure which came first though.Reply
I would get terrible brain fog after back-to-back long runs due to dehydration and electrolyte imbalance. It plagued me for years until I figured it out.Reply
Deep sea divingTop-level comment
Record collectingTop-level comment
If you've never listened to the podcast "S-Town" there's a thing called "fire gilding" to restore antique clocks which is boiling mercury and gold together. Once again, it needs massive ventilation or you can have some later in life major issues both mental and physical.Top-level comment
making felt hats?Top-level comment
Anything involving long periods of sitting, like gaming. Get yourself a standing desk and alternate.Top-level comment
Beer tasting, you may end up to be alcoholic.Top-level comment
Russian RouletteTop-level comment
Probably sitting for long periods while gaming, watching TV or scrolling.Top-level comment
Reading for hours without breaks – great hobby, but it can strain your eyes, neck, and back.Top-level comment
Anything carpentry related or anything with a lot of point long-term. Chemical exposure adds up, and working near fine wood with poor circulation and no respirator will shred your lungs.Top-level comment
I've been told that sitting is the quiet killer so Ive been standing as much as possible.Top-level comment
Sports. The older you get the more it takes a toll on your bodyTop-level comment
Gaming. Not because it's bad, but because "I'll just play for an hour" somehow turns into an entire evening, and suddenly you're 30 with 5,000 hours in game and questionable sleep habits. Which also involves sitting for that amount of time which is also bad for you. Anything done sitting down for years really. Before anyone says, yes you can get a desk, you can stand up every once in a while. Most people dont.Top-level comment
Fishing. You pay hundreds of dollars to sit in silence and hope an animal interrupts you.Top-level comment
I've stopped BBQing and grilling, except for a couple times a year. Especially with kids around. Stopped making kimchi except for special occasions. From my googling it sounds like I reduced my risk of lung and stomach cancer from 10% to like 4%. I dunno.Top-level comment
textiles, if you dye either plant based fibers like cotton or animal fibers like wool, you need ppe and ventilation, especially with wool and other protein based fibers that need a sustained boil with an acid. i guess any type of craft or art medium listen your instructor and/or other warning labelsTop-level comment
Warhammer 40k minitures...kills the wallet and the fumes from painting does damage tooTop-level comment
After reading comments Im thinking thank God I don’t have any hobbies.Top-level comment
Drawing. I'm only 30 and my wrist is absolutely done for (no, not from carpal tunnel - from ganglion cyst/tendon damage, even after 5 years of physiotherapy and surgery), my back/neck/posture is horrid, no muscles to keep my body moving and healthy cuz I do the same shit at work and then double that at home as a hobby, so no time for workouts, etc. People think it's a chill little thing but honestly it's destroying your body.Top-level comment
Gardening. It’s slowly killing my bank account and my soul.Top-level comment
I see all of these people doing furniture flips without wearing masks while working with numerous chemicals and using sanding tools- in enclosed garages at times… they are definitely at risk of a lot of health issues later on in their life. Also, side-note many people just tossing stuff in the trash, they are at risk of burning down their homes because many paint strippers and wood stain (especially gel) can self ignite, ALWAYS soak rags, paper towels, foam brushes, any disposable thing you used into a bucket of water before you throw it away. Don’t burn your house down for a thrift flip.Top-level comment
Being alive and having fun almost always ends in deathTop-level comment
Talking, I thinkTop-level comment
Playing runescape. Bitch never ends, even after 20 years.Top-level comment
Being aliveTop-level comment
Playing Russian roulette.Top-level comment
True. Honestly don't understand why people play it with real guns.Reply
Uh oh, I have been playing video games since the late 1970s. Am I doomed?Reply
Making fursuits 😔 most of them are hand-sewn, which can cause wrist issues from sewing through thick fabric all the time. Additionally, long fur often needs to be shaved down to your preferred length, and if you regularly do it in a nonventilated area without a respirator you can get fursuit lung from the plastic particles of shaved fur getting into your lungsTop-level comment
BoxingTop-level comment
Jerking offTop-level comment
Abstestos mandalasTop-level comment
Well I can talk about taking your pet to the vets the more you stop the more it get sick 🤢Top-level comment
Probably smokingTop-level comment
Warhammer 40k and Magic The Gathering. You might think you are wealthy enough to support both hobbies and eventually collect everything. You would be wrong.Top-level comment
Graffiti, another respiratory killer.Top-level comment
Wet darkroom, 1995-2010. That fixer probably not too good for me.Top-level comment
MTop-level comment
MethTop-level comment
Oil painting. Wear gloves and if your not in a well ventilated area, get a mask if you can. Some of the paints and mediums have stuff in them that will mess you up.Top-level comment
Watch collecting. Left and checked it can make you go insane and broke.Top-level comment
I once got a sparkle tinsel in my throat for DAYS after crocheting with sparkle tinsel yarn... so yeah basically anything can kill youTop-level comment
doing nails! acrylic and also gel. pretty much any nail product you add to your natural nail and then have to drill or file down. unless you have a really good dust collector and ventilation system, you’re 100% breathing in artificial nail dust, which is made up of chemicals obviously not meant to be ingested. it’s a super fun hobby but so dangerous unless you’re willing to invest a good chunk of money into a dust vacuum and ventilation system. i went to nail school and still had to learn the hard way by getting sick on multiple occasions before investing in my setup.Top-level comment
Not always, but keeping birds can lead to bird keepers lung. You randomly develop an allergy to fecal particles in the dander. I’ve known two people who had to give up their animals because of it. In one case, it was the husband who never even dealt with the birds who developed the condition.Top-level comment
Embroidery. My neck has gotten destroyed from this hobbyTop-level comment
Collecting Radioactive elementsTop-level comment
Pool maintenanceTop-level comment
Tuba players who play professionally often develop heart splits. Kinda sucks and makes them unable to playTop-level comment
Reddit.Top-level comment
Mechanical keyboards. You start with "I just want a nicer keyboard" and somehow you're comparing switch acoustics, buying artisan keycaps and explaining gasket mounts to people who absolutely did not askTop-level comment
Pornhub!Top-level comment
maybe skateboarding, the amount of injuries you get over time especially if your serious about it is insane.Top-level comment
bob sledding. the speed you go and the potential to get whiplash can fuck up your brain and spinal cord. lots of fun though!Top-level comment
SauderigTop-level comment
BASE jumpingTop-level comment
CrackTop-level comment
livingTop-level comment
Smoking Virginia slimsTop-level comment
Russian roulette.Top-level comment
Diarrhea farmerTop-level comment
DrinkingTop-level comment
Eating asbestos as a snack. That stuff has no fiber.Top-level comment
Has drinking entered the chat?Top-level comment
I’m sure you mean 3,200 jumps. It would take 87+ years of jumping every single day to reach 32,000Reply
Nope, 32,000 is when he stopped counting. Ballpark is he’s probably at 37,000 by now. [link removed] Doing 10-12 jumps per day isn’t unusual for a competitive skydiver, especially when they’re training. Hell, most of the mid-level load organizers and coaches/instructors at a good DZ have 2,000-5,000 jumps. I’m personally considered “barely not incompetent”, and I’ve got 700 jumps.Reply
Multiple jumps a day? Maybe an instructor?Reply
Fun jumpers definitely average more than one per day, easyReply
Even if he did jump daily and was an instructor that would still be 2.19 jumps a day for 40 years without missing a single day and to get to the point of saying “stopped counting at 32,000” implies there were plenty more after because even at an addition 20, you’d know it was 32,020.Reply
Again, 10-12 jumps per day isn’t unusual when they’re training for 4-way competition. These days he’s usually coaching and organizing very big formations (100+ jumpers), so they’ll often only get 3-4 jumps per day when they’re trying to build something that big. But he’s also still coaching smaller groups ever weekend as well.Reply
Don Kellner logged over 46,000 jumps so you might want to adjust your perspective. There are not a lot of jumpers up in that air, but there are more than you think.Reply
smokingTop-level comment
Arsenic sniffingTop-level comment
RunningTop-level comment
Fun fact: us coroners refer to motorcycle accident victims as "Meat Crayons."Reply
I refer to half my students that way myself. That was actually the tougher part of becoming an instructor, is seeing students come through who you know will be dead in short order. I only get a weekend with them tottering around in a parking lot to try impart as much knowledge as I can, but there’s so many students of mine that I absolutely know will not survive. Best case senario for them is something bad enough that is totals their bike and hurts them enough that they’re bedridden for long enough to reconsider their life choices. Learning how to emotionally wash my hands of them at the end of the weekend was the hardest lesson to learn.Reply
F ffTop-level comment
Would you consider drinking a hobby?Top-level comment
Does wing suit glider count?Top-level comment
Being a mimeTop-level comment
Gaming. No bitches.Top-level comment
digital screentime!- that's not a hobby as per se but if that;s what most of us do most religiously anyway!Top-level comment
lol, horses. kills your bank account and sometimes kills you! (spoken with a spinal fusion). But when you're a horse person you keep going back for more... until you die... possibly under a horse.Top-level comment
I'm glad so see nothing relating to aquariums on here, although it can be bad for your lungs if your drown in your fishtank I supposeTop-level comment
Competitive eatingTop-level comment
Playing video games and watching tv since sitting down for long periods of time cause all sorts of health problemsTop-level comment
Driving a lot I believe kills your health.Top-level comment
Drinking at the pub too much instead of getting fresh air and exercise.Top-level comment
one of my biggest hobbies is crochet, but it causes a lot of strain on my neck, shoulders, back, and of course fingers/hands. i can only do it for maybe 30min a day now, which makes me so sad! looking for solutions but they’re hard to come by as my body just habitually tenses up when i’m crocheting :(Top-level comment
GolfTop-level comment
When I used to do anything with resin, I only worked with it in my garage or in the guest bathroom with the fan on to keep it ventilated.Reply
Coffee and cigarettes for breakfast every day.Top-level comment
Fishing…. At least financiallyTop-level comment
I just watched FLY on NatGeo YouTube Base jumping will get ya sooner or later (amazing docu btw)Top-level comment
I have enjoyed smoking crack, but it’s costly and my dentist surely hates it.Top-level comment
Didn't see anyone say GunplaTop-level comment
When I was into glassblowing I knew of like two people who developed Metal Poisoning because they weren’t using proper ventilation. Those fumes will get ya, and according to the guy I was friendly with the recovery was very rough. Definitely was a silent killer back in the dayTop-level comment
Most everything seems dangerous on some level 😂Please don’t tell me singing (in a choir) is bad too!Top-level comment
WTop-level comment
Smelling glue is apparently super bad for youTop-level comment
When you breathe, you will eventually expire in a few decades or so.Top-level comment
parkourTop-level comment
Ammunition reloading and casting lead bullets.Top-level comment
the binding of isaacTop-level comment
Hunting is dangerous in many ways. Especially with other hunters around.Top-level comment
Gaming for hours – Back pain, neck strain, eye strain, poor sleep. And Scrolling social media – Can contribute to anxiety, poor attention span.Top-level comment
Drugs and gamblingTop-level comment
Smoking weed with tobaccoTop-level comment
They are noisy actually... 🤣Reply
Yeah my uncle from that time said there were ashtrays at the end of every aisle in the grocery store. And his dentist would be smoking a big cigar while he was working on him. Just a wild time in general.Reply
I’m more in the savory direction myself.Reply
I worked for a bricklayer for a couple summers in college. Never wore a mask (didn't occur to me since we were outside) and never wore gloves. No gloves because even leather ones got chewed apart fast and I didn't like having a Mickey Mouse glove tan line. To his credit, my boss told me I was crazy for working gloveless, but no injuries or long term damage suffered. Had some nice callouses from it.Reply
I'm in the pocket of big bagpipeReply
more a silencing killerReply
I prefer to lather on swaths of tallow and then throw it in the oven at 400 degrees for 3-5 Scottish business days.Reply
That doesn't mean you inhale it into your lungs though... so, not really an answer to my question.Reply
You don't have to be "sucking" in air to be inhaling air from the bag. I answered your second question which was the relevant one.Reply
High blood pressure is a silent killer or smoking.Reply
But when it does, it will silence you.Reply
Nifty! Thanks for the learnin’sReply
couldn't you use high grit wetsanding if you desperately needed to sand something without worrying much about dust?Reply
I stopped playing about a decade ago and my synthetic bag had a warning that if you season it the warranty was void. I just had to open it and let it dry.Reply
The only person on the planet with those qualifications.Reply
hahahah...Reply
Holy crap! Must have been shag carpet.Reply
Nope typical low pile office carpet but it had been in there for some 15-20 years.Reply
Troy the gardener>Reply
Sex with horses, assuming you’re receiving the penis.Top-level comment
CrackTop-level comment
Smoking tobacco pipes. I smoke one every month or two, and I enjoy the flavor, but I'm well aware of the oral cancer risks.Top-level comment
Same, although I really need to pipe in more tools to my dust collector than just my table saw. Dust masks don't do shit, used a properly fitting respirator with appropriate cartridges (P100 for dust, VOC for finishing). Edit: this is more of a general statement, not directed at you specificallyReply
I have the 3m 6200.Reply
That was more of a general statement than specifically directed at youReply
I wasn't disputing you. I agree with you 100%. That's just my mask of choice.Reply
I also have a 3M, I'd have to go check what the model is, but they're more or less the gold standardReply
Smoking and cocaineTop-level comment
My grandad was on old-school carpenter and his job killed him too. He needed a piece of wood and cut a section of post from a support for a bridge and the bridge fell on himReply
Video gamesTop-level comment
Won't let me post the screenshots but the post above this one was the mandatory squeeze box you had to for through to go caving.Top-level comment
Couglone collecting financially for sure because it turns into dopamine farming and for other people’s attention rather then your own personal enjoyment.Top-level comment
Just gotta hit the galvanized steel with some muratic acid first. that's not dangerous, right?Reply
Be glad you're not a bird.Reply
Not too hard. They make tent like things that you just run a tube out the window from. Easy peasyReply
I read that as “Surprisingly delicious”. Was confused.Reply
Probably less so the life expectancy and more so the fact that we largely treat air as just. a given, and love to do shit that pollutes that air without thinking about it.Reply
It depends what else is going on in your studio and how things are being cleaned up. Clay is mostly worked on when wet to some degree but leaves residue that dries out and creates dust. You don't want to breathe the dust. Cleaning up with a wet cloth/mop ensures you don't send dry dust into the air where people will breathe it in.Reply
Surprisingly? Think about it. They're little more than a wrinkly sack of a membrane that's 0.0006mm *at its thickest*. 10% as thick as an individual thread of silk in a spider's web. And spider webs are designed to be strong as their primary function.Reply
Yeah, all of that ventilation can be noisy.Reply
Because it was on sale for super cheap.Reply
Depends on the specific one- some will just make you allergic, but as long as you don't keep doing it after you show a reaction it doesn't usually go anaphylactic right away. Some have cancer causing ingredientsReply
It is not that bad if you got a dedicated room for it. Washing it and using gloves becomes standart procedure.Reply
Hey hey, what do you mean? Whats this evolution talk? That's not what the bible says. /sReply
I doubt there was a choice.Reply
The Netherlands is a very wet country. There is water everywhere. There isn’t any surface water left in the country that is not polluted anymore.Reply
1. Eye protectionReply
IdjotsReply
You just need to buy a washing/curing station, it's like 30 seconds of work and 10 minutes of waiting till you have a piece ready. Without one yeah it's very tedious work.Reply
Yeah, without even looking it up, I’m confident that it’s a top-tier contributor to power tool accidents I feel like work gloves are overrated generally anyway, but to the extent that they are useful it’s for grabbing and carrying and handling stuff that would otherwise tear your skin up.. there is no value to using them near a spinning blade, while setting you up to lose your handReply
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So no deaths? Got itReply
We've lost two association members after their treatments who didn't have an epi-pen with them at the time thinking they were immune when they tried to work their bees once again. I went four decades before developing an allergic reaction. As well, I too have done the treatments and started to go into anaphylactic shock again after getting stung over a half dozen time while working one hive.Reply
Almost as bad as Gerbil Fancier's Elbow. My brother's professional tennis career was ruined, thanks to Mr. Tinkleberry.Reply
so that's insane and you are within your right to either refuse to work in there or expect a dust mask. They're super cheap and effective.Reply
How can a stopper knot tied on a rope with its ends within reach of a bystander (presumably on the ground) get stuck? I mean, you shouldn't fuck with someone else's rope unless there's an active emergency happening, for sure.Reply
Exactly. This person saw me setting up my rappel and looked at my rope and thought "OH NO SHE DIDN'T TIE A STOPPER KNOT" and decided to tie one for me right then and there. I don't remember the exact circumstance, but I remember having to pull the rope back up, and I remember finding that it was difficult to pull because someone tied a knot in it and it caught in some vines and branches. It was years ago. We were climbing several newly set routes, and to access them, we had to rappel from a vegatated cliff above, clip in to the anchors, and then rappel down. IIRC, these routes were eventually bolted up, but the exact placement of the bolts hadn't been determined yet, so rapping was the only way to reach the anchors.Reply
Ahh, having to pull the rope *up* certainly complicates things. The only times I've had a problem with a stopper knot was either when there was foliage *directly* in front of me when I was throwing the rope down or if it was a really shallow slab with wide cracks that the rope can fall into. I always rappel with a Prusik knot though, so when it's happened I can safely have two hands free to pull the knot out of whatever it's stuck on. But then I'm always a 'safety over every other concern' climber and am certainly not fast.Reply
It is a safety concern! If you're rapping a big wall and you have a 60 m rope and you rap to something 20 m below, you have another 20 m of rope out, and even if you rap and clip into the next anchor, there is still a risk that the knot will slot into a Crack like a stopper nut, or snag on a tree. This is why I would recommend not always tying a stopper knot, but instead make a judgement call each time if it's better to tie a stopper knot or not.Reply
Eosinophilia. I got it from having chickens. Started off with inhaling a bunch of their litter/dander when moving a brooding box that dropped and the air got proofed with the litter. Thought I was going to die from a persistent lung infection that lasted more than 6 months. Got on a bunch of steroids to manage and ended up with adrenal fatigue. Then eosinophilia which requires long term asthma and lung care management. On 6 meds at the moment. Got decreased lung function. My WBC are always elevated as if my body is constantly fighting an infection.Reply
The unfortunate thing is trying to explain that to the people who it will affect the most 😓 The worst “old hands” in construction will complain about something as simple as wearing gloves or hardhats…Reply
Thankfully ours does not use it but the one south of me does.Reply
Amd/or a good sander with a dist extractor attached to it.Reply
what does sensitised mean in this case?Reply
AllergicReply
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Skin is not a glove!Reply
Maaaan, I've got some stuff that needs abated, but there's no way I can afford it. I'll probably have to DIY it at some point unfortunately. Any chance you're allowed to provide tips? Asking as someone who lives in a US state that lets us DIY this kind of work (and also not disclose presence of asbestos to potential homebuyers, as I learned too late), I just love the fact that our illiterate and corrupt officials don't give two shits about public health lol.Reply
Your best bet is to leave it in place if possible. I'd only remove it if it's necessary for your project or it's in such bad shape that it'll release dust from normal use. If you must remove it, try to remove it in solid pieces. You should wear a P100 respirator at minimum along with disposable coveralls with a hood, gloves, goggles, and boot covers. If possible, make a containment using plastic sheeting and duct tape. Installing a negative air machine is probably more than you can do but that's what we use. When you're done, dispose of your waste in thick trash bags. Use a vacuum with a HEPA filter to clean up your work area before removing the containment. Remove and dispose of your coveralls, gloves, and boot covers. Remove and dispose of your containment and then secure the trash bags. Immediately remove your clothing and wash it. The asbestos waste may need to be disposed of as hazardous waste or a special type of waste but I believe that is state specific. I'm not an asbestos abatement contractor myself, so please do more research before committing to the project since I may have forgotten some stuff. TLDR: You should try to do any asbestos abatement as by-the-book as possible. A single exposure is unlikely to do much harm, but you really don't want mesothelioma!Reply
It's popcorn ceiling, which seems to be simultaneously more manageable (low % crysotile, wet vac can be used) but also scarier (harder to reach, larger blast radius). I'm holding off as long as I can, but I likely will have to cut into the ceiling at some point if I stay here another decade. I could fabricate my own negative air machine with materials I have on hand, I've essentially made one already for my friend who does resin printing. But maybe at that point hiring a certified abatement company would be less financially daunting though. Appreciate the thoughts.Reply
Neither. I do a closed loop. My filter is probably overkill. I did it that way because there was no good way to vent out the window. Generally, venting out a window after running the air filter is the recommended option.Reply
Easier on the joints tooReply
Entire countries weld without masksReply
No probably not but all these guys paid my husband to pass their OSHA 30 for them. I'm the only one with the ovaries to nag them as the self declared Safety Bitch. It's the best I can do. Not my company, I'm not the boss. I just keep preps in my bag and try to help best I canReply
Hexavalent chromium, got it. I'll get a mask and let people know next time we run those parts. Thankfully, the amount of grinding we are talking about it pretty minute--probably 5-10 seconds to put a chamfer on the bars, which are small tubes less than half an inch OD. Still, would rather not. Any other materials I should be concerned about? Nitronic or anything?Reply
did he… lift the mask to try to see what he was doing better??? did no one explain to him how welding masks work??? lmaoReply
That's why they call it Rapture!Reply
But. there is a silver lining that hasn't been realized with it yet, imo. If resin printing access becomes widespread enough, the amount of waste from over production that it takes to sell 46 dragon toys, 76 pokemon knockoffs and 427 axolotl plastic toys is a lot higher than it is to just print exactly what is wanted or needed.Reply
Lol he does that too. And then looks around to find them to put them back on before he remembersReply
Somewhat good news - you can still get that smell even wearing a mask! It’s the particulates that get you most, and the aroma is more from the VOCs released from the wood by cutting.Reply
That's a smart idea. I just set up a bucket facing my wet saw to collect all the water.Reply
The other option is just opening my mouth and catching it allReply
Ohh wow hey thanks for the info! How do you know all this? Do you work in Aviation?Reply
I’m a student pilot with only about a dozen hours under me as I’ve only started training recently, but like with a lot of aspiring pilots I’ve had a lifelong interest in aviation. There’s also been a lot of back and forth between pilots, businesses, and fuel suppliers at my local airport over adoption of unleaded gas and another one further south of me is shutting down in 2031 in part due to environmental concerns around 100LL, so it is a current issue in many GA circles.Reply
This is very interesting. Thanks for sharing your perspective. Glad to see people have been talking about switching. So what will it really take? A ban of the sale of planes with unleaded gasoline engines? Can they run on regular unleaded?Reply
Have you thought about a mask?Reply
The fumes can be smelled throughout the house when it's printing, which takes multiple hours. I can't make everyone in my house, and my pets, wear masks for that whole time. And that won't help if the resin particles settle on surfaces or food.Reply
Yeah you should definitely not print in a lived in space. If you MUST do so I've seen a lot of setups where you buy a big grow box with a ventilation hookup and just keep it sealed and always venting outside.Reply
That's what I'm thinking. I have a space in my basement that I want to set up for the resin printing, and a window to blast the fumes out of, I just have to find or build a good solution.Reply
I have a £20 bathroom extractor fan attached to mine and it vents out the back and out the window. Before that it was sometimes difficult to be in the room with it printing because of the smell. Now it doesn’t smell at all and the air quality monitor in the room doesn’t budge at allReply
Look into the stuff people use to grow cannabis at home. Most people I've known who had a resin printer use pretty much the same type of setup (though usually smaller than a homegrow setup). Get a grow tent with enough space for the printer/curing station/whatever, get a filtered ventilation fan and some ducting (usually comes as a kit). Set it up near a window.Reply
If I recall there's a really comprehensive blog post on someone's setup that I was looking at that would probably be a good place to start.Reply
Grow hoods vented to a window with a screen are a really good option. This is a pretty good example. [link removed] It also has links to where he got his setup too.Reply
That's helpful, thanksReply
My cousin almost died after making duck blinds out of some fancy wood from AfricaReply
Oh yeah man, the more exotic the wood the greater it'll F you up. AT BEST you'll just become allergic to it. But a lot of those exotics, especially those in rainforests, are straight up toxic.Reply
A coworker had a woodworking hobby that she gave up when it affected her lungs. She said the resin in the sawdust was also a big factor.Reply
Someone gonna chime in and say holding breath is bad for you too. Can’t winReply
TIL: resin 3d printersReply
I’ve always wondered if Alex harold’s popularity has made the hobby better?Reply
There's a French guy, Alain Robert, much older than Harnold, who has been free climbing buildings since the 1970s. Including a few 1000 foot buildings. For some reason he didn't get famous like Harnold. Maybe the Yosemite climb by Harnold was the difference, since captivated the world.Reply
Robert should repeat Alex Handhold's freerider route.Reply
I know know more bonsai practitioners who lived to 90+ years old tending trees than I have heard of anyone in the community getting this (0).Reply
I made a large moss wall that lives above my couch. It isnt alive. Should I be concerned? Would you dispose of it?Reply
I dabble in art (digital and classical media) and when I'm really into a piece, I find that I'm developing a headache because I haven't been breathing. I'll be curled toward my surface (again, be it my digital pad or an actual canvas) wondering why things hurt and then realize that I'm not only hunched like gollum, but that I have been holding my breath due to focusing so hard on what I'm doing. I have a thousand other hobbies, so I rarely get into "art hunch" but it was disturbing to realize that it happened.Reply
> intense crafting like full contact macromé?Reply
What?Reply
and thats why I breath through my mouthReply
Amen to this. All my major horse injuries have been whilst on the ground. Fallen off quite a few times, but never broken or cut anything falling off.Reply
I had to scroll way too far to find a fairly non-obvious answer. This one is interesting!Reply
Well, crap. Sphagnum moss is used also in animal terrariums, and I have it in my frog tank. Of course I don't handle the poisonous frog without gloves, but this made me reconsider putting sphagnum moss in his new tank.Reply
what about phytocenides????Reply
My room has a bunch of Bonsai :( I got into it last summerReply
Thank you for this, because it explains a little more about something they found in my lung a few years ago. A scan discovered a pocket that reminded me of the old Snapchat ghost. It was a diamond-shaped pillow. It had no tendrils that one expects with cancer, but they had me get scanned a couple more times in the following two years. Good news: it never grew, didn't change, might have even shrunk. It's a mycospore that the lung encapsulated. The doctor described them as a result of living in the Great Lakes region -- local, airborne stuff.Reply
was wondering how far down this one would be.Reply
Should see what happens to graffiti writers. [The clip at 27:55]([link removed] is something I think every graffiti writer should see. One of the most legendary writers of all time saying he'd trade all of his fame, fortune, experiences, friendships, etc. for his health.Reply
I’ve always lived in the city and walk / jog such that I’m often outdoors at least 2-3 hours a day. Am I fuckdd?Reply
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thank you. TIL!Reply
So it's a damned if you, damned if you don't type of situation. My advice is to just do whatever you enjoy, but in moderation.Reply
Ooooh I got this when I was 19, they sent me to an infectious disease doctor because they couldn’t figure out what it was since they’d never seen it present that way before, it ate the skin and fat on like a 1/3 of my finger and they asked me for permission to do a case study on it but I forgot to sign the papers. My skin grew back but it looks like a spiderweb kindaReply
I am so scared of this happening, I only wear press ons that I make with DIY gel polish and I wear gloves while painting them.Reply
There should be a warning on gel boxes and on the instructions. My mom wanted to start doing gel because regular polish basically flies off her nails. She has a tendency to get polish all over her fingers and pick it off later. I told her about the allergy potential (which she would have had NO IDEA about if I wasn't into nail art), and we decided it wasn't worth it.Reply
Sphagnum moss is recommended in reptile enclosures for humidity pockets... welp, I will let those know about that.Reply
I still ride and train eventing (all three) and ferals spite it but when I was about 13 at a AA H/J show on a green broke 8yo I took an odd rotational. Horse came down on top of me and fractured 4 parts of my spine, broke 2 ribs, stage 3 concussion, and broken ankle from getting stuck inside the stirrups. It's insane how easily it is to go from 0 to 100 in a mater of seconds. We were rated top till the fall and the horse ended up with a good injury on the suspensories. It's not even normal that I hear often to have bad rotationals in HJs.. then I went to go do arguably more dangerous stuff in XC 🫠Reply
Been PC gaming since I was 21. Even worked as a games journalist during the 90s. 59 now and still gaming. I always tried to balance it out with the gym and running. I really loved the running. Did 12 marathons and an ultra. Then I started getting hip pain that didn't respond to rest or rehab. Now I can just about manage a slow parkrun.Reply
Sooo is it if it gets on my skin it can cause an allergic reaction or uncured gel polish on skin? Because everytime I go in to get my nails done, without fail, there's some gel on my finger since my nails are so small.Reply
As I novice rider I consider this all the time. Though I wouldn’t call it a silent killer; just one bad moment and you’re dead.Reply
For those that did develop allergies, were you using cheap Amazon brands or higher end brands/HEMA free gel polishes?Reply
Former Equestrian here, the depression from the debilitating arthritis almost did me in. Flew off my horse into a fence post, my legs wrapped around it, after 5 years of Depo Provera. Yeah RIP knees.Reply
So... If I want to join a stained glass course at a local center that probably doesn't has funds for serious PPE, what should I look out for, beside some masks for grinding?Reply
Well the grinding should be done with a wet sponge to eliminate dust. You could wear a mask for flux fumes - ventilation is ideal. Don’t put the lead solder in your mouth, near food/drink, wash your hands afterward. They made special soap or wipes that “de-lead.”Reply
Got a $100 walking pad and stuck it in front of my TV while gaming on console and got a standing desk while gaming on PC. Long gaming sessions feel great because I’m walking the entire time at 3mph. EVERY gamer should do this!Reply
Even the Superman was not safe from the riskReply
does this also apply to the nail foils you buy online?Reply
No?Reply
Oh pretty goodReply
See above “bagpiper lung”Reply
I second everything said in this post. This has been my life for the last 10+ years. If you're staying still doing anything for a long time make sure you stretch and move around regularly! You don't want chronic tendonitis folks, trust me on this.Reply
This happened to someone I went to school with, too! I didn’t even realize that was a possibility until she talked about her experience. Seems like such a bummer. After that I was much more careful when I paintedReply
It has *absolutely* happened before.Reply
The mother kept riding!!?? Did they live on a ranch where it was necessary, or just as a hobby?Reply
Get a recumbent trike. It is so good for your back. I have a crappy back. Saw a spinal doctor and told him I rode a recumbent trike. He told me those are so good for your back. I thought he was just telling me to get out and exercise. Nope. If I am riding regularly I am limber and have little back pain. If I can't ride for a while the pain starts to creep back into my life. Try a trike.Reply
I'm definitely going to check that out. One annoying thing with my muscle imbalance right now is it's also causing knee pain. Either my hip flexors or something pulling on my IT band is pulling my knee. It's called patellar tracking disorder. So I use to cycle for exercise before but now if I do while my muscles are tight I'm likely to cause an issue the next day where I can barely walk my knees hurt so much. I HAVE to figure this knee issue out so I can get back to cardio. I tried swimming at our community center yesterday and now today my knees are killing me. But no pain while I'm exercising.Reply
I greatly reduced my joint and tendon pain by drinking a small can of pineapple orange juice daily. There was an article on the BBC about how a daily orange juice habit reduced inflammation. I had the pineapple orange juice on hand, so I decided to give it a month. So yeah, it really does help. And I get a monthly massage with a licensed massage therapist. When I get off balance my therapist can often find what the heck is tight and rebalance me. Totally worth every penny. I took my grandmother to her orthopedic guy and he was telling her that her patella didn't track properly. He looked over at me and said, you have that too. So maybe I have something similar. The trike is a good way to keep my knees limber. There is a recumbent trike group here on Reddit. And trikes come up used on Craigslist all the time. They are expensive. And they are such good rehab machines that the VA will buy them for disabled vets.Reply
Open a window, run a fan, you’re good 👍🏻 I painted in my kitchen for years with my balcony sliding door open and ceiling fan on!Reply
Could you not use it to design your own press on nails?Reply
Me too. At least I can suffer from doing what I love most 🤩Reply
And you can get lung problems! (See above.)Reply
It takes a lot of exposure to friable asbestos. Like working with it for 10+ years and breathing in the dust. Have a popsicle bud, you’ll be fine.Reply
Oh no shit I'm actually eating a Popsicle when reading thisReply
I use Dawn Powerwash after wiping them really well and it legit WORKS. It’s a little easier swishing the brushes in a teeny amount of odorless mineral spirits (I do this outside) and then the Dawn. But usually I don’t even bother.Reply
Was he in hell? Maybe some good company?Reply
Thank you so muchReply
It's like, super flammable and we had to store it in a special cabinet for flammable stuff when I was in college, so...Reply
Is there really no evidence of perlite dust being harmful? I could have sworn I’ve seen papers on it. Also a CP grower who mostly grows in peat/perlite and live sphag and I always wet it first.Reply
It was mentioned on a CP forum not being toxic and like yourself it didn't sound or feel right to me. None of my usual searches returned anything other than it being a nuisance. ChatGPT offered the links below. [link removed] [link removed] Like yourself I only use it wetted and if it needs pouring dry I do it outdoors upwind of the bag.Reply
I have asked a number of people on the bus to put on headphones and I've told people on elevators to stay rightReply
I hate perlite dust, it also feels sharp on your skin like fiberglass. I try to avoid it now as much as possible. This stuff definitely cannot be good for you.Reply
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No… I had it scheduled but I chickened out the night before and just muscled through. I HATE needles and just couldn’t do it. Probably not the best decision lol My kid was a WILD nurser and it got a lot better when his feeds spaced out more, so I think a big part of it for me was whatever I was doing to try and keep him under control haha. That and I got a tushbaby as soon as he was big enough and it was life changing! I have a friend that did the shots and they didn’t work and she ended up having surgery, so yeah it can definitely get really bad!Reply
I've done the treatment so I'm not sure what you're trying to convey?Reply
Whack a mole is the best way to describe it!! You check and fix one issue then boom here's another popping right up haha. I used to call my body a puzzle box I can't find the right combo to. I fix one part and the rest is wrong so the problem isn't solved yet. Still trying to figure it out (and probably change careers) I hope you're doing well, enjoy your digital art journey! (I also have a Wacom tablet then graduated to the big Cintiqs but I mostly draw standing now or on my iPad for work on various silly positions to protect my neck)Reply
People work in conditions like that their whole lives and then only some get the disease. You’ll be fine.Reply
this doesn't really make sense to me. there are people who are 90 years old with perfectly fine lungs. of course the average 25 yr old and 90 yr old will be different in terms of capacity, elasticity and what is considered "normal" oxygen levels but that isn't what you are saying or what i think the other person was hinting at.Reply
More likely the sea rises through our porous Limestone platform, and drowns us all.Reply
I think that's what they meantReply
His name was Geppetto.Reply
what do you think about those who have a reptile as a pet? Many times they are told to used sphagnum moss in their reptiles enclosures to retain a humidity pocket or hide. Do you recommend that or no?Reply
Sorry to bug you but since you seem to know what you’re talking about what do I do instead? My nails have ALWAYS been super thin and break all the time. I got acrylics because the added heft kept them from breaking which as an added bonus made them look cute and prevented me from randomly scratching the shit out of myself. I know the filing is bad, and I try to go four weeks between and fill as much as possible rather than grind down to fresh but my already thin nails have been so beat up from years of that that I took the last year off getting my nails done. They still break all the time and the breaks get sharp and I scratch myself. What should I be doing?Reply
Even Alex says that Alain is a world class climber. Alain Robert has climbed 5.13b free solo. While freerider is a 5.13a. if Alain was about 50 years younger I bet he would've sent freerider too :)Reply
No it's when your lungs stop after they break into your home and smother you with a pillow at night while sleeping. (or in the morning, depending on what time you bagpiped)Reply
Now that I think about it... that would free up living space..Reply
I have not tried DND. Since I didn't have issues with OPI or Gelish I stuck with those and didn't want to chance another reaction. And I don't do them nearly as often now just to limit exposureReply
Well yeah if you sand your paintings, then you need to worry about paint dust. Were I to do that, I would just do it outside, wearing a mask probably.Reply
Well, that comes with its own problems. Heavy metals would then contaminate the environment, finding their way into the soil and water. Which is precisely why those pigments shouldn’t just be thrown away with your regular trash (fire hazard aside). That’s the extra responsibility that I was talking about. Painting with them literally creates toxic waste. And if you use acrylic gesso or acrylic under paintings, then you would also be sending a bunch of microplastics into the environment.Reply
Too hard to tell because people these days are just a bit dumb. So cant tell if thos is irony or humor. My bad.Reply
FWIW, unless you have some specific/complex physiological diagnosis going on here (see a doc to make sure), a swimming session should not be triggering that level of knee pain - it’s a zero impact movement. Do you find you carry a lot of anxiety around movement and pain? Not saying pain is in the mind, but as someone with anxiety, it can create an entire context that isn’t grounded in what’s actually happening in the body and amplify the feeling of pain, which sucks! It’s worth getting taking steps to mitigate anxiety or getting help with it specifically. Overworking certain muscles as a root cause at first glance can feel intuitive, but let’s look at this on paper: did you perform a movement like lifting more than 1/4 of your body weight during the session? Did you enter zone 4 or 5 heart rate for more than a few minutes? If not, maybe ask, how can I have overworked something? Bodies are made to move. The way you *can* overwork something is by keeping it weak which is a result of not consistently moving and challenging (not extreme, but progressively) the body. The yo-yo effect: perform an activity—>feel some pain—>avoid activity for multiple days or longer—>decondition—>perform activity again while still weak overall. That said, swimming is also not a magic bullet, if there’s something else you can do more/for longer, it might be worth turning the dial up on that insteadReply
Even with ventilation, the pigments in "good" paint are often pretty nasty - heavy metals, arsenic, etc.Reply
Yep, I will gladly pay the £40 a month to have my nails taken care of properly. Gel manicures mean I don't rip my nails out with my teeth so its well worth the cost.Reply
When the Germans are accusing *you* of war crimes you know you've gone too far.Reply
Nails do not breathe.Reply
You’re correct - they’re made of layers of dead keratin and do not have lungs - it was a metaphor. Like how when we say we’re going to take our makeup or fake tan off and let our skin ‘breathe’. Acetone, topside filing, acrylates, and focused UV strips that dead keratin of all its moisture, all the way to the nail matrix - and when I say ‘matrix’ here, I’m not talking about the movie. Allowing your nails to ‘breathe’ in this context is to keep them bare, to let them be, to stop stuffing about with them and choking them. And I don’t mean ‘choke’ like hands around their throats - nails don’t have throats!Reply
This is not as much of an issue if you actually bond with the horse, learn proper education, and do cross training to be properly fit and balanced. It’s dangerous for people who do it casually and don’t have the proper skills, fitness, or knowledge of the horse they’re riding.Reply
I’ve had Proper training and been riding 23 years (30 f), have owned my horse for 10 years, I am very fit, and I just got thrown when my horse ive owned for 10 years tripped at a gallop, and I broke my neck. Was wearing a helmet. None of that info is true.Reply
I've read that's why he was "the mad hatter" in AliceReply
I love scuba diving but am staying out of caves.Reply
I enjoy a nice cave, but I’m staying the fuck away from any sumpsReply
Not any more though. For one thing I think it was only with felt, but these days the technique is not even used anymore due to the hazard of working with mercuryReply
"If anything goes wrong, you have the rest of your life to sort it out"Reply
OK people, tell us how that will kill too, because it probably does, right?Reply
Sedentary lifestyle will increase risk of a heart attack, and i would guess that masturbating can trigger one.Reply
Huh. I guess that’s why they say you’re mad as a hatterReply
Mad as a hatter 🎩Reply
This, started in my late 20s, now in my early 40s and black belt, never had serious injury but started getting staph infections every couple of months, turned out it became chronic condition. Basically decided to quit as I can't mentally take it anymoreReply
Not a killer but surfers ear sucks. I’m 90% occluded in both ears.Reply
Iv had both drilled 98% and 93%. It sucked but it was a game changer. Way less stressful going surfing. If I forgot my plugs I couldn’t go out.Reply
Ya I’m using plugs religiously now. The only thing that makes me apprehensive about surgery is I heard it can just grow back faster. That and sometimes the drill can get away from the surgeon haha. Edit to add: If I remember right the surgeon wanted to do both chisel and drill but it’s been a few years since we talkedReply
Yeh chiesel is a lot better less intrusive faster recovery. Iv had one friend who had a bit of drama but he went out surfing to soon and didn’t listen to the surgeon. Both of Mine where fine just 8 weeks no surfing. Mine haven’t grown back faster but I don’t surf as much as I used to with kids etc. I only know of one guy who’s had multiple surgery’s due it growing back faster I think he’s up to no.3. Most surfers where o live have had it or need it. They did stitch my ears back on at slightly different heights I can tell when I have sunglasses onReply
Hypersensitivity pneumonitis doesn't sound fun at allReply
My aunt was a hairdresser back in the 80s and 90s. She never smoked much more than socially, but still developed COPD from all of the chemicals used on perms.Reply
When I was learning to dive the scuba instructor mentioned it and I had the same apprehension. He said most of the dives with that certification are wide open areas (like a sinkhole), there's just no surface directly overhead. When he explained it I realized I had watched too much YouTube and most cave diving is not excessively dangerous.Reply
> feeling like I'm 40+ some days Well, I'm 40 plus and feel great, so I'm not sure what this means.Reply
For breathing, ultra pure lamp oil is safest (swallowing small amounts isn't seen as a significant health risk). The biggest risk is aspiration of aerated droplets (from an unlit or partially lit plume, an unexpected wind gust, etc). As an instructor once told me, "It's not IF you'll get chemical pneumonitis, it's WHEN..." and that was enough to get me to move on from breathing as a hobby, hahaReply
Yes uplo is certainly dramatically safer than other alternatives in myriad ways for fire breathers. Pulmonary conditions due to a asperation of the ignighted and non-ignited fluid is the most serious cause of complications most of the time I know of with uplo. Assuming it is properly distilled and has no additives (hopefully breathers are all using lab/food grade uplo) it will likely not contain the benzene, PAHs and other carcinogenic compounds that many other less processed peteochemicals have. It is still not good for you, especially internally, and while it has a high LD50, that does not not really factor in chronic exposure. It may be GRAS for the specific purpose of occasional ingestion as a laxative, but that specifically does not account regular, repetitive ingestion either There has not been a good study I know of about the long term effects on the gut are of ingesting variable amounts of uplo regularly, nor would that be ethical... and so much would depend on the amount ingested and the frequency. Most fire breathers I have talked to can think of a at least a few times they have accidentally swallowed significant quantities of oil before. And after days of performance the loose stools are also somewhat common. but it is pretty universally not recommended, and can remain in the body for days after ingestion and impair the absorption of fat soluable viatmins. In some cases it can cause gastrointestinal reactions, ulcers and gastric obstruction as well as eventual exogenous lipoid pneumonia if the ingestion is for a prolonged enough period. These outcomes are mostly derived from cases where it has been prescribed or used as a laxative. Additionally, it should be said that fire eaters are usually using white gas (naptha), so the aforementioned protections mentioned by using uplo do not apply to them. Edit: here is some links to some case studies on the conditions mentioned. "Fire breather's pneumonia" [link removed] exogenous lipoid pneumonia [link removed]Reply
Exhaust fumes, gas fumes, gas and oil on skin, coil springs, bad postures, stress, sanding, paint... Everything about it tries really hard to kill you.Reply
Really, the biggest issue now is if you get into a crash in an antique car with some mom in a 3-row SUV, you’re almost certainly getting killed. Most vintage car guys I know only drive their old cars to *very early morning* shows (when there is the lowest commuter traffic) or bring those old cars in trailers towed by modern pickups or SUVs. At least they can survive those crashes and let insurance take care of the rest. I can’t count how many times I’ve almost been T-boned by an SUV driver on their phone running a red light.Reply
Depends what your masterbating with…Reply
I hope the plan to eliminate 100LL by 2030 is actually realizedReply
As a runner I was waiting for this comment .my hot take is it’s prob hard on my knees and joints but I love it sooo much As ultras take TIME but yea wildly intense and I enjoy long distance runningReply
I feel called out. It's 1:36, not 2.Reply
As a white belt, please explain how to train smart and take body maintenance seriously?Reply
Can also cause cognitive issues.Reply
I would be more worried about the booze, coke and ketamine but that’s just meReply
I don’t think anyone has died from scrapbooking or cosplaying. Right? Right guys?! 😰Reply
Good doc so far.Reply
Why?Reply
I've got an extractor setup nowReply
The radiation exposure is small to really cause am issue. Around 5 microsieverts per hour.Reply
For the general commercial passenger yeah its not a big deal. But it certainly does have a long term impact on pilots, flight attendants, and other flight crew.Reply
The CDC considers flight crew among the highest exposed radiation workers. Without knowing the planes being flown or the routes, there's no way to know if the level of radiation is safe or not. Considering the lack of tracking data, especially in the US, I wouldn't be surprised at all if even just on average, the risks for cancer were significantly increased for flight crew. This is on top of the hearing loss and increased UV exposure.Reply
My friends mom was a flight attendant and got a very aggressive lung cancer and she was gone within a year of being diagnosed. Never smoked. Active and fit. She was in her late 40’s. Anecdotal but I’ve always wondered if her profession had something to do with it.Reply
Certainly possible. Depending on when she was a flight attendant, could also be the shit load of second hand smoke she was inhaling.Reply
That's happened to me too, even sent me to the ER once. I've heard of the Alpine earplugs, and that they work well. I'll be sure to add those to my list too!Reply
Could you share some of the issues you are still experiencing, im interested to understand and would appreciate your answer , thanksReply
I have one elbow that is still unstable when I post on tnat arm to get up. I have a large bunion on my left foot. My neck definitely has a bulging disk which I think contributes to a case of my right arm going numb on occasion.Reply
Until you drop oneReply
Saddest part? I can't even partake in an ibuprofen punchbowl anymore. I took so much it gave me GERD.Reply
Damn it, if only I'd have know that could be deadly I wouldn't have gone deep diving in the still water pool at ChernobylReply
what do you mean when you say get rocked? Like knocked out? or just hit on the head ( I presume hard)Reply
Good for you! Wait look at your user name.Reply
And one day I'll be too old to surf 😆Reply
But can still be a monk?Reply
Part of the thrill is having a pregnant wife at home, duhReply
Me & my roommate made a gun range in my basement. My neighbor was certain we had the drain bamage. Not worried about lead because I sold that house... shooting range was nowhere on the disclosure questionnaire. The east wall was mostly spackle & various caliber ls. Perhaps not one of my brightest ideas, but seemed to scratch an itch at the timeReply
I used to watch boxing videos on youtube for form and drills and such. You could feel the punch drunkenness in the comments more than your typical youtube comment section.Reply
Yeah, pretty sure you get _a lot_ more blows to the head playing most ball games (thinking of football/soccer here!) than most martial arts!Reply
Wow, sad… yeah, it’s a spectrum. I’m always surprised people let it get that bad. By most people’s standards it’s safe to say I’ve had a gambling problem, but when we really had to stop going, we stopped. The fear of becoming homeless was more powerful than the urge to gamble.Reply
Gaming is a hobby because you can progress and get better which for certain games requires mental power, so is reading. Watching movies is a pass time. You don't get better at watching movies, but you can get better at reading and learning.Reply
Sorry it's late. My brain read that as only fans fitness boxing......i thought what a weird way to say fucking.Reply
Same. I don’t know if they’ve changed the scoring model since, but when I played in 2017 you had to swing in a pretty wide arc to get full points on each cut. That + the speed and how much I was playing really messed up my arms for a while.Reply
It's especially embarrassing because I'm a hockey player. Like... Arms, you're used for much more violent things. Get your shit together.Reply
Slightly OT, but my feeds have been inundated with this guy...can't stop watching him lol. His Karate videos are some of the funniest things ever. [link removed]Reply
broooo hahaha. Fitness Boxing: Fist of the North Star (which is like a cheesy over-the-top anime version of the game, so dumb in the best way) has a DLC mode that is literally this. So satisfying.Reply
I'm not saying you're wrong at all, you might be the worlds leading researcher on tendons, specifically those in the elbow. But I just was going based off of Cleveland Clinic: >Management and Treatment: The RICE method: This is usually the best way to fix tennis elbow. (Rest, Ice, Compression and Elevation) [[Source]([link removed] Mayo Clinic: >The following self-care measures might relieve tennis elbow: >1. Rest. Do not do activities that aggravate elbow pain. 2. Pain relievers. 3. Ice. Apply ice or a cold pack for 15 minutes 3 to 4 times a day. [[Source]([link removed] Center for Bone & Joint Disease: > Treatment Options: > 1. Rest and Activity Modification 2. Ice and Heat Therapy 3. Over-the-Counter Medications [[Source]([link removed] You did say contrary to popular belief, but I feel like "popular belief" means more like 'old wives tales' or like country-medicine. Not... the top hospitals in the entire world.Reply
I think you're probably both right? RICE at first, until the acute symptoms (pain and constant aches) resolve. Then move into the isometrics? I'm not an expert, but I am trying to deal with my own tendonitis issues, without medical help, and that is what I think I've learned so far on thus journey...which I've just started.Reply
RICE helps for initial pain and inflammation, but does nothing to address the underlying fundamental weaknesses that lead up to that point. Furthermore, doing your utmost to rest/immobilize an affected joint for extended periods - which might not be needed - just makes it weaker and more susceptible to further re-injury.Reply
MawpReply
I kept meaning to pay for a volume level meter to bring on the subway with me so if it is too much I could bring it to the attention of the health department or OSHA or something. (I'm not sure why OSHA would have jurisdiction, but they would probably find a way. Maybe for the drivers or something.) Maybe one of these days I'll do it.Reply
Judo was brutal for me. I remember starting and I got thrown once and my brain felt like it was moving around. Then I did BJJ…3rd day in, I got stacked (I wasn’t told to avoid this position and I was new) and ruptured my C4, C5 disks in my neck. Soft tissue injuries don’t get looked at enough. I grew up doing kickboxing and I remember seeing Muhammad Ali have shaky hands which frightened me, which is why I changed sports. I now do kung fu (not very often due to long covid) but it’s very “tranquil.” Edit: grammar and adding a sentenceReply
A genuine concern, so far mine have been fine but I've definitely had the same thought!Reply
Yes card counting is great, but you'll get kicked out for doing it as it gives you an advantage, and the entire point of a blackjack table is to be slanted against the player. FWIW I also gamble occasionally and would not say it's always harmful as a hobby or anything. You just need to know if you're the type to get hooked etc, and it's hard to know before it is too late.Reply
My mistake, I didn't realize you weren't the person I replied to last night who was claiming gambling wasn't a hobby. I responded in that context.Reply
Ah gotcha, yeah I do that all the time. "What do you mean you're not the same guy? What is this, a public site?" I do it constantly.Reply
"open holes to fall in". Kinda terrifying, the thought of falling into some hole or shaft, and landing waist deep in U235 dust...Reply
Thanks for the well thought out review! I'll give it a shot for sure! The VR exercise apps also have the ability to cheat the system to a certain degree so no surprises there. I appreciate youReply
No problem! If you end up getting, I want to hear your thoughts haha. Hopefully you like it too.Reply
Nice! I’ll have to look into Palworld. For NMS I love the base-building stuff. :) The story is underwhelming tho.Reply
Any crafting projects you’ve been working on lately? :) Recently I’ve been sewing doll clothes and toys for my nieces, but I’m more of a garment and bag sewist.Reply
Base building in NMS is my jam too! I fly around looking for cool/weird scenic spots and build little micro bases. The other half the time I'm grinding for quicksilver to get more base building decor and stuff lol. For crafting, I've been really into paint by numbers lately, and listening to audiobooks. I'm doing a moon cat flowery painting right now. When I sew I also usually do more clothes related stuff, or sew things for my petsReply
Finding the cool/weird spots is the best! Also I love trying to find the weirdest critters from anomalous worlds. My recent favorite is these glowy flying pyramid guys and some see-through land animals with neon-colored glowing blood vessels \^\_\^ Any good audiobook recs? My recent faves are Una the Everlasting by Alix E. Harrow (one of my all-time favorite authors) and The Devils by Joe Abercrombie. :)Reply
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It seems you missed the part about leaded solder? Soldering with lead almost invariably leads to some lead vapor which is all too easy to inhale, especially if you're doing it casually at home (i.e. without proper ventilation). Ask me how I know what lead smells/tastes like. :/Reply
Unless you are heating up lead past its boiling point you're not breathing in lead vapors.Reply
Nope. Lead remains in its liquid form when soldered, and isn't aerated. Only excessive handling is much of an issue, so just be sure to wash your hands.Reply
GA planes are kind of death traps in general.Reply
I certainly wouldn’t say that. But learning to fly one takes a lot of time and serious commitment. I compare it to riding motorcycles a lot. If you are a safe rider you’ll be fine. Theres always inherent risk, as there is with everything. But you can minimize that by being a safe pilot.Reply
I mean, there are around 220k GA aircraft in the US, and around 300-400 deaths every year, so about one death per 630 aircraft. There are around 9.3M motorcycles in the US, with around 6,300 deaths per year, or one death per 1500 vehicles. Of course that’s not per trip or per mile, but in rough terms, on a yearly basis GA aviation is probably at least twice as deadly as motorcycles, which are already dangerous as shit (cars are like one death per 7000 vehicles).Reply
Remember back in their day ppe was for pussysTop-level comment
just being in the sun. so many people dont take skin care seriously and act like being tan is cute and at the same time like armor, like now they cant burn. skin cancer rates have exploded, but fortunately early detection has also improved so its not as fatal.Top-level comment
Any craft using e6000. It can wreck your respiratory system. This includes dancers and showgirls that do their own rhinestoning. And possibly baking. You can develop "baker's lung" if you inhale flour on an ongoing basis.Top-level comment
Stained glass...for the love of God make sure you vent while soldering the leadTop-level comment
House painting. A friend's dad was a house painter and back then the masks used aren't good enough to keep the fumes/smells totally out from your system, He ended up in lung complications and my friend lost his dad because of thatTop-level comment
For watching TV series for long time. I remember that time I watched more than five seasons in on Day when off the screen it's like your back from another worldTop-level comment
Video games, sitting for super long periods of time is terrible for your health, also a decent change it kills your marriage too if you have one.Top-level comment
Over gymTop-level comment
Well if it’s a hobby, you Will eventually get stabedReply
Do you have reccs on the glassblowing eyeware you use?Reply
I recommend Phillips Safety wear, but they're expensive. I like them because (last time I checked) they can just add your prescription to the lenses without an upcharge. [link removed]Reply
Indeed. I recently lost a cousin who was on day one of a bicycle trip across half the country. He was an experienced cyclist, but he was bumped off on the first day by a Ford F150 out in the middle of nowhere.Reply
I'm so sorry to hear that. People drive like maniacs in the middle of nowhere. :(Reply
"Humans are unfortunately built out of bits that only barely survived the evolutionary process, and aren't designed to last multiple decades at full working capacity." What nonsense, way to ignore it is rather a lack of safety at work and sufficient rest and compensation for workers, All only and only stemming from greedy and mentally impaired subhumans who will overwork you to death to keep their margins as tight as possible just to buy their annual 39th superyacht while making record profits every quarter, with no concern for you whatsoever.Reply
When did you last hear of a base jumper dying 😉Reply
Fair. Ex-smoker too but look at it as one of the biggest mistakes of my life and would never consider it as a hobby..Reply
Skill issueReply
Don't forget AI too lolReply
Are we the same? Neck, Hip, and Knee injuries. I'm only 31 🙃 This decade is gonna be a lot of preventative/corrective strength training and rehab, otherwise the longevity just isn't gonna be there.Reply
Yeh you have to be healthy to be able to show up and enjoy it so that’s the no 1 priority for me. Can’t train have fun with other hobbies if your broken.Reply
😂Reply
What r theyReply
I don’t think it’s the coffee itself that’s the problem as much as it’s the reliance on the caffeine, like not getting enough sleep or eating well or exercising enough and making up for the lack of energy with caffeine instead. Personally, I quit drinking coffee almost 10 years ago just because I hated being addicted to caffeine. If I didn’t have a cup of coffee my noon time, I’d get a really bad headache and feel terrible. I hated being dependent on it, so I quit. I miss drinking it, but I don’t miss the caffeine withdrawal.Reply
Was just thinking that. I mean, I think everyone kind of knew it would happen eventually, but even still. And with a passenger, which just makes it more tragic.Reply
Never thought about it before but now that I am, it makes more sense than using a water cup like other paints. I also always associated oil painting with the little paint knives and not brushes so I assumed those could just be wiped with a rag or something.Reply
No? My sister met her husband when they were in *Merrily We Roll Along*, and then later she was in *Leading Ladies* with my spouse, who had recently moved to town. I did techie work backstage on both shows.Reply
The apples-to-apples stats show very similar risk per hour of GA flying and motorcycle riding. If you remove pilot error from GA, it goes down 50%Reply
I’ve seen one in my lifetime so far; older indoor range that had it posted on the door and at the counter that their backstop was only rated for velocities at or below 1600 FPS; so .22 rimfire and certain PCC’s were allowed, but most centerfire rifles couldn’t be shot at that range.Reply
Thankfully I only use the handgun range. You can hear the blasts shake through the walls though and that shit is crazy. I feel bad for the employees there now more than anything.Reply
HeroinTop-level comment
It’s crucial to wait until you’re in a good mood.Reply
Why?Reply
I'm sure you mean well, but you are wildly, dangerously (dare I say disastrously, Berry?) wrong. You don't have to get to the boiling point of lead to have lead fumes any more than you have to reach the boiling point of water to get water vapor in the air. Lead melts at 327 C, it begins to release toxic fumes at 482 C, and it doesn't boil until 1,740 C. (All of these assume one standard atmosphere of pressure.) It's good practice to solder using a temperature below 450 C, but many home soldering kits are capable of higher temperatures and have poor control of the actual temperature of the tip.Reply
Smoking. It’s my favorite hobby.Top-level comment
Drinking. Coke. Heroin. I mean, they're all fun... But they can lead to negative events.Top-level comment
kidnapping mimes and mutes. At some point you will find one thats armed and dangerous.Top-level comment
The boomers trying to push us back into the office again seem to be super passionate about sitting at a desk at work. They adore itReply
DrinkingTop-level comment
Blacking outTop-level comment
Drinking is my hobby, I think it’s harmful the longer you do itTop-level comment
LegosTop-level comment
CocaineTop-level comment
Russian rouletteTop-level comment
Smoking.Top-level comment
Is “crack” on the list? I bet “crack” is on the list.Top-level comment
SmokingTop-level comment
Plutonium juggling.Top-level comment
TIL. Don’f take up a hobby. Just do nothing!Top-level comment
smoking crack!Top-level comment
smoking weedTop-level comment
LifeTop-level comment
GamingTop-level comment
SmokingTop-level comment
Licking paint.Top-level comment
Playing guitar without ventilation When you strum the strings the metal heats up and produces toxic fumes that you might inhale.Top-level comment
Seems you will believe anything you read on the Internet, with out any critical thinking.Reply
Oops forgot to add the /sReply
Smoking weed has no known negative side effects.Top-level comment
HobbiesReply
Bros embarressed to sayReply
>Bros embarressed to say I'm way more embarrassed by your spelling.Reply
I ain't the best at spelling but let's not dodge the questionReply
Glass blowing and lamp workingTop-level comment
Producing methamphetamemesTop-level comment
Asbestos taste tester.Top-level comment
As long as you drink water with it you will be okReply
getting silently killedTop-level comment
CigarettesTop-level comment
Warhammer 40k. It doesn't harm you specifically, but it pops up on every 'ladies rank the least attractive hobbies in men' lists so it will apparently lead to the end of your bloodline.Top-level comment
recreational pharmaceuticalsTop-level comment
Damn, I was going to say drinking but you guys all have better ideasTop-level comment
Russian roulletteTop-level comment
throwing rocks at bearsTop-level comment
That doesn't sound like it would end in silence...Reply
Cigar smoking.Top-level comment
Grinding asbestosTop-level comment
Regular golfing results in increased chances of dementia. Turns out spending time in a field that's regularly covered in neurotoxins isn't so great for you.Top-level comment
Gaming.Top-level comment
Breathing.Top-level comment
being a ninjaTop-level comment
Drinking. Smoking.Top-level comment
I used to light firecrackers in my mouth and spit them out at the last second.Top-level comment
Uv shirt with a hood, nothing slathered on, they don't wash/sweat off, help keep you cool too.Reply
Playing the drums didn’t physically kill me but they killed my future.. You see when I was younger a big school in Jacksonville had offered me a scholarship and offered me about 15 million, 10 million, 5 million sum like dat to play the drums for that decade and I wanted to chase my dream of being a garbage man sum like dat cuz the task of playing drums wasn’t really my passionTop-level comment
If you consider fashion, a hobby; then I would say wearing glasses is a killer of sorts …so many young people started wearing glasses, in recent years, as a fashion statement. They didn’t need them at all, and now years later, they absolutely need contacts or glasses and they need a stronger prescription year after year , it’s a shame. A lot of young people didn’t realize wearing glasses actually weakens your vision, making it a necessity that just continues debilitating you. It really sucks when you can’t see.Top-level comment
If a person collides with a mountain and nobody is around to hear it, Did it make a sound?Reply
Nobody would expect base jumping to be dangerous.Reply
This is just plain wrong, despite your confidence. Liquids develop partial pressures in air, with small amounts vaporizing well before they reach the boiling point. That's why we have humidity (water) in the air even though the ambient air temperature is well below 100 C. Similarly, lead melts at 327 C, and it begins to vaporize (forming sub-micron particles of lead oxide in the air) at 482 C. Lead doesn't actively boil (i.e. *all* of the liquid is being converted to gas rather than only a small fraction based on partial pressures) until 1740 C. But that fact does not save you from all the lead in the air prior to reaching that temperature.Reply
You're about to find out why leaded solder specs are typically under 320c my dude.Reply
I'm aware, but soldering irons go much higher than 320 C (usually at least 450-500 C), cheap irons don't have a temperature gauge at all, and it's often necessary to crank the wattage up to max to get solder to melt in a reasonable amount of time for a larger joint. The biggest issues I've had are with soldering battery connections, since large LIPO hobby batteries for RC cars, planes and helis often use large gauge wires and the connectors are hard to heat sufficiently to get melting. I did learn over time that heating the opposite side of the connector to melt the solder ensures that the solder only ever heats just enough to melt it, but my initial practice was to melt the solder directly and try to deposit it onto the connection (which is faster, messier, and much more dangerous). Learn from me, don't be me. ;)Reply
...I'm going to be extremely polite and say that someone who hand solders battery tabs rather than spot welding or bend pressing has realistically zero valuable lessons to give to others about soldering, or electronics in general.Reply
Oh I must be a fool then! Please, oh wise sir! Pretty please show me how to spot weld or bend press common RC battery connectors? You can see a wide variety of them here: [[link removed] Note that all of those are connectors for 3S lipo batteries or less (i.e., nominal voltage is 12.6 V or less when fully charged). When you get into higher-voltage batteries, you get even larger connectors that can handle 90A continuous and 150A burst or more. Hell, just for funsies, here is a video showing Ultra Deans with an 8 gauge wire carrying 200A. [[link removed] These are ALL products with soldered connections, and they are MADE FOR THE PURPOSES I USE THEM FOR. I don't think it's possible to spot weld or bend press them, even if I wanted to. You're clearly well outside your area of experience.Reply
Christ... They're called solder tabs as they're designed for wave soldering. That's how lipo backs are assembled in bulk. I've commissioned OEM north of 20,000 units for lipo embedded projects. Are you making one or two of your own packs with daddies ancient soldering iron? Fine, hand solder the tabs. Any more than that, go buy a battery tab spot welding tool on Amazon. I can't believe I'm doing this, but I'll actually teach you how to hand solder battery tabs: lightly scarify the tabs with a file, place a small amount of quickchip between the tabs then heat them from the rear with hot air (leave daddies soldering iron alone).Reply
If you're soldering electronics at anywhere close to 482 ⁰C using lead solder, you're doing it wrong.Reply
How so?Reply
I think "the longer you do them" means doing something frequently for years, not doing something excessively. Gaming is hardly harmful, and far from "a silent killer" unless you become addicted.Reply
It's not that deep bro. Just go with it.Reply
nahReply
yahReply
Tell that to ppl that ended up as stains somewhere bruh. I also do a lot of thru hiking in scary places and every hike is to respected as its own experience. I never go into the next experience thinking that because the hundreds of times before went smoothly, this time will go smooth. Ive known several ppl end up lost/stranded who were thankfully found but we both know things dont always go that way.Reply
my toll account?Reply
noReply
Nah, just a bored dude.Reply
Its safe, until it isnt.Reply
I haven’t seen anybody writing or commenting about working as a Dental Technician. They work with plaster of paris the whole day, process of making dentures involves a lot of acrylic processes, curing it and trimming it. Thats just one process. Making crowns involves working with porcelain dust etc. What do people think?Top-level comment
What do you think a hobby is? "Hey, you know what is a very satisfying way to pass the time? Working a 9 to 5 making prosthetic teeth for people." That's not a hobby. That's having a job.Reply
You can’t even buy leaded solder any more without going to some effort. edit: yeah, yeah, you can still relatively easily buy it, but why would you? I guess my point is that you can't assume that home electronics people are always using leaded solder since the alternative is more easily available.Reply
Mouser has five pages of leaded solder wire that's in stock. Now, it's not as cheap as it used to be, but it's still readily available.Reply
Bruh I can get it right out of the vending machine at work for free at any moment. It's really not hard at all.Reply
You can. It's allowed for the repair of non-RoHS equipment.Reply
...thus, like I said, by going to some effort. Most of it is RoHS. Mouser has a more lead-free solder in stock than lead/tin alloy. Anyway, what I'm saying is that you can't assume that people soldering stuff together use leaded solder. I build and repair electronic music stuff, and I basically never use leaded solder, and if I'm replacing parts I usually Hakko off the leaded stuff and replace it from my big spool of nice silver solder.Reply
It's really not hard to get 63/37. I can get it on Amazon for delivery by 10pm tonight (it's currently 4:30). Given how many beginner soldering videos there are out there that recommend leaded, there's still a lot of people starting out with it.Reply
I guess I haven't watched beginner soldering videos... That's kind of silly, considering. Well, whatever, I'm wrong. I will continue to use silver solder instead and cheerfully huff the fumes for kicks.Reply
Some of us are just old guys that happen to have bought leaded solder back when it was standard... and we still have a fair amount left since we don't go through it quickly. A also still have have lawn darts and Zen Magnets - both of which have been killed off by the CPSC. I may not be normal. ;)Reply
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Source: one public TikTok discussion about hobby and activity health risks

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Relative volume of distinct source-backed records across every reviewed subcategory in this corpus.

Resins, solvents, dust, and fumes

305 distinct coded comment records

16 normalized answers under Workshop and making

Woodworking, metalwork, and power tools

275 distinct coded comment records

9 normalized answers under Workshop and making

Other hobbies and mixed physical risks

260 distinct coded comment records

31 normalized answers under Movement and outdoors

Screens, gaming, and sedentary hobbies

188 distinct coded comment records

1 normalized answer under Arts and media

Strength, sport, and repetitive strain

184 distinct coded comment records

7 normalized answers under Movement and outdoors

Climbing, hiking, water, and adventure

177 distinct coded comment records

16 normalized answers under Movement and outdoors

Animals, wildlife, and animal care

92 distinct coded comment records

7 normalized answers under Animals and nature

Gardening, plants, and environmental exposure

71 distinct coded comment records

6 normalized answers under Animals and nature

Music, hearing, and performance

68 distinct coded comment records

4 normalized answers under Arts and media

Running, cycling, and endurance

57 distinct coded comment records

3 normalized answers under Movement and outdoors

Needlework, models, and detailed craft

56 distinct coded comment records

8 normalized answers under Workshop and making

Selected comments from the discussion

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My grandfather was a pigeon fancies and he died of emphysema or ‘pigeon lung’.
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Smoking weed with tobacco
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All dynamic, athletic sports are great for you until you get an injury that renders you unable to exercise for the rest of your life
started a 59-reply thread
Wood-working. Primarily excessive saw dust exposure. Over time it can be harmful to the respiratory system. Also, many people do not realized that there are several types of wood dust (Cedar being the most common) that have toxic qualities and are allergens that can potentially cause breathing issues and skin irritation. Regardless, masks should be used when working with wood if the job makes a lot of saw dust.
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Extreme stuff like base jumping or skydiving. Its never a matter of "if" something goes wrong its when and sometimes no amount of prep can save you from catastrophic equipment failure that your life would otherwise depend on.
started a 16-reply thread
Motocross/Enduro riding in Forest Warch out for that TREE 🤣
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maybe skateboarding, the amount of injuries you get over time especially if your serious about it is insane.
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Crochet = arthritis in your hands from them hurting like hell when you don't want to stop making cute stuff
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Chronic exposure vs. one-time accidents: which pattern actually dominates

Every one of the 108 catalog entries above was coded a second time by the health-risk pattern its own reviewed reason describes, independent of category: a slow, cumulative exposure that builds over months or years, a single dramatic incident, or both.

Coding each hobby's own reviewed reason a second time, by exposure pattern rather than by category, turns up a consistent shape: 63 of 108 hobbies (58%) report only a slow, cumulative exposure — dust, fumes, solvents, repetitive strain, sun, or noise that builds over months or years — and another 16 (15%) report that same cumulative pattern alongside a separate one-time injury risk in the identical hobby. Only 19 hobbies (18%) report a single dramatic incident with no cumulative component at all. The remaining 9 entries had too little detail in the source discussion to code either way, and one (gambling and sports betting) describes a financial and behavioral harm rather than a physical exposure.

79 of 108 hobbies (73%) carry a chronic or mixed exposure pattern, against 19 that are acute-only — and that split holds inside every one of the four top-level categories below, not just in the workshop-and-making crafts where dust and solvent warnings are most expected:

CategoryHobbies codedChronic-pattern or bothAcute-onlyToo thin to code / not physical
Animals and nature137 (54%)42
Arts and media55 (100%)00
Movement and outdoors5738 (67%)118
Workshop and making3329 (88%)40

16 of the 108 hobbies explicitly report both patterns at once — a slow-building exposure and a separate acute-injury risk, named side by side in the same reviewed reason. For example:

The practical read for a reader deciding what to actually worry about: a hobby's public reputation for danger (skydiving, base jumping, motorcycling) tracks the acute-injury pattern, but the exposure most commenters across this whole corpus describe changing their behavior over — a mask, a respirator cartridge, a timer, an extractor fan — is the slow-building kind, which is also the kind a hobby's reputation is least likely to warn about in advance.

Dataset, coverage, and methodology
2,848
captured canonical records
108
distinct hobbies and activities identified
4
reviewed risk categories
786 + 2,062
top-level records + replies

The canonical corpus contains 2,848 records: 786 top-level comments and 2,062 replies.

The reviewed catalog retains 108 distinct hobbies/activities across 4 categories, drawing on 1,664 distinct source records; 1,184 records did not name a catalog hobby/activity and remain in the closed raw archive rather than being force-fit into a category.

Each hobby/activity's supporting records are a union, not a partition: a single comment naming several activities supports more than one entry.

This archive has no recoverable like counts or timestamps; engagement and arrival-order signals are neutral (zero) throughout.

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