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What owning a dog actually costs — the bills, the hours and the fixes people said worked
What it cost them, and what they said made it smaller
Across all 5,471 captured comments the costs people actually name are far more specific than “a lot of work”: the emergency surgery with a figure attached, the monthly total of food and medication and grooming, the boarding bill that decides whether a holiday happens at all, the senior years nobody plans for, and — the most-upvoted answer in the entire thread — somebody else's off-leash dog turning a carefully socialised animal permanently reactive. The thread argues with itself just as hard, and that argument is reported here too: 254 records say this is an untrained dog rather than a dog, 107 say the mess is solved by picking it up as it happens, and 236 say the right pet was a cat — every one of them placed beside the answer it disputes rather than filed away.
- The most-upvoted answer is not a chore at all: it is somebody else's off-leash dog, and the reactive dog it leaves behind
- The money is monthly as well as catastrophic — commenters itemise food, medication, grooming and yard cleaning by the month
- Boarding is where the schedule turns into a price, quoted here by the night, the week and the month
- The senior years, not the puppy months, are what turn devoted owners into exhausted ones
- What people said worked: match the breed to the life you have, choose a lower-need dog, or borrow somebody else's
- The thread's own rebuttal — pick it up, walk the dog, change the food, train it — is reported beside the complaints it answers
- Every quotation on this page is a commenter's own words, reproduced exactly and attributed to a source record
What a dog actually cost, in figuresThe biggest numbers in the thread, and the one genuinely two-sided practical argument it has with itself. 228 records.
The emergency vet bill, in the numbers people actually paidNamed operations and named figures, from the people who paid them — and the sub-thread of things dogs swallowed to get there.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: The emergency vet bill, in the numbers people actually paid
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The emergency vet bill, in the numbers people actually paid
Situation: A dog swallows something, tears a ligament or grows a tumour, and the bill arrives in one piece
Why readers chose it: 80 records, and what makes them usable is that most of them carry a figure. Torn cruciate ligaments dominate: TPLO surgery appears again and again at roughly $6,000 to $11,000 a knee, and several commenters paid it twice for the same dog. The second cluster is things dogs swallowed — an industrial twist tie, two fish hooks tied to a bobber, a sock, a bottle of ibuprofen, rocks — and a veterinary technician and a pet-emergency-room worker both confirm from inside the clinic that this is routine rather than freakish. The top of the range is five figures: $13,000 for perforated intestines and sepsis, $16,000 for a fence after repeated escapes and injuries, £9,500 for a twisted spleen, close to $40,000 for a brain tumour. The limit these records keep arriving at is that the bill is neither predictable nor optional once it appears, and that several of them paid it and lost the dog anyway.
What readers reported: My guy, a black lab, swallowed an industrial twist tie, which perforated his intestines and led to sepsis at 2 years of age. He survived after surgery and a $13K vet bill. He is now 5 years old, and started growling at a spot on my wife's leg while she worked in her office. She decided to go to the doctor and found out is was an extremely aggressive melanoma that was caught before spreading widely. The little guy essentially saved my wife's life and earned his vet repair bill.
Limit: Everything in this card is a personal report from an anonymous commenter, including the costs, diagnoses, medication names, training claims and breed claims. None of it is verified, several of these claims are contradicted elsewhere in the same thread, and nothing here is veterinary, behavioural or financial advice.
What the replies added3
Lol we had a 2 year old terrier mix who slipped on our hardwood and broke her leg and needed surgery. That was fun.
I have 6 dogs. 4 of them live outside. They are working dogs so they are well trained to protect our property and livestock. They keep the mountain lions and other predators away. They are fantastic, hardly need us for anything, and are generally really easy to care for. That is, unless they get injured. Three days ago one of them got herself into a fight with a rattlesnake and the rattlesnake bit her on the nose. Got the dog to the ER vet right away. Dog survived and will make a full recovery but our bank account is holding on for dear life. It might not ever recover. Pray for me. The indoor dogs are part of our family and I love them dearly, but they are massive pains in the ass. The older one is 15 and can no longer hold in his piss or shit so I constantly have to clean up after him. He wears diapers but he likes to take it off and pee on the living room floor. The younger one is pretty much made of Velcro and attaches herself to me 24/7. It's real fun when you're trying to cook and constantly trip over her. A few years ago I tripped, hit my head on the cabinet and hurt my wrist really bad. Thankfully nothing was broken and I didn't need stitches, but it was a close call. Dodged an expensive medical bill with that one. I could go on and on with stories that will confirm your stance that dogs are horrible pets. But I still love them and can never see myself without them.
Paid 15k for my schnauzer at almost 15 to have procedures done along with daily medications and he lived comfortably and happily until 17 1/2 and didn’t fall apart until the end. Without it he would have fell apart right at 15. Sometimes it’s more about actually being best friends/ companions with your animals then treating them as a burden when stuff gets tough. Like having children you wanted them, you thought it would be “cool, fun” when its a lot more simple then that. If you’re just going to complain about the money side of it well then it shows your priorities aren’t straight, and haven’t taken time to get pet insurance (even if it doesn’t always work out) it helps. Yall are weird
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Spent 11k on my cat recently when he ate a bottle of my dogs apoquel. Just a heads up the chewable apoquel is toxic to cats and yet so alluring to them they will scale high shelves and break open prescription a prescription bottle that hasn’t even been opened yet to get to what’s inside. Not to mention skip on the easily accessible bag of beef jerky on the table to the med instead. He’s only 5 and the treatment was workin and he was in fact getting better he just needed more time on IV fluids. Days of being at a pet hospital on IV quickly racked up to 11k unfortunately
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My guy, a black lab, swallowed an industrial twist tie, which perforated his intestines and led to sepsis at 2 years of age. He survived after surgery and a $13K vet bill. He is now 5 years old, and started growling at a spot on my wife's leg while she worked in her office. She decided to go to the doctor and found out is was an extremely aggressive melanoma that was caught before spreading widely. The little guy essentially saved my wife's life and earned his vet repair bill.
Also, every vet visit is $500 minimum. And your house smells and has lots of extra hair.
I have two cats and a dog. I’ve spent $10,000 on the dog in ACL surgery’s and I just got a diagnosis my youngest cat has lymphoma, and we haven’t even started treatment yet. I love them so much but at 32, I don’t know if I can do this again once they’re gone.
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Pet insurance: who said it paid for itself, and who did the maths against itThe thread's one real practical debate, argued in premiums, deductibles, annual caps and denied claims.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Pet insurance: who said it paid for itself, and who did the maths against it
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Pet insurance: who said it paid for itself, and who did the maths against it
Situation: Deciding whether to insure a dog or self-insure with savings
Why readers chose it: 51 records, and this is the only genuinely two-sided practical argument in the corpus. The case for is made in payouts: one policy reported as having paid out over $70,000, another covering $7,500 of surgery against $600 a year of premiums, another covering 75% of a ligament repair. The case against is made in arithmetic and in denials: premiums quoted from $30 a month up to $83, rising to $80–$90 by age five and to over £200 a month in one country; annual caps of $5,000 and $15,000 that ran out mid-year; and the pre-existing-condition exclusion several commenters say caught them when they insured a dog that already had a note in its file. Named insurers appear on both sides. The one thing the card agrees on is timing — insure before anything is on the record, or the maths stops working.
What readers reported: Did the math and realized I was going to likely be burning money by getting pet insurance but never wanted to deal with the mental gymnastics of deciding between treatment and saving money.
Limit: Everything in this card is a personal report from an anonymous commenter, including the costs, diagnoses, medication names, training claims and breed claims. None of it is verified, several of these claims are contradicted elsewhere in the same thread, and nothing here is veterinary, behavioural or financial advice.
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Lol we had a 2 year old terrier mix who slipped on our hardwood and broke her leg and needed surgery. That was fun.
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So there's 2 things that go in in this case. The first I see often is people not following through with clean medical records, or getting insurance after a documented issue. Both will get you denied. I saw a lot of threads of people just not understanding the coverage they paid for and then complaining when they got denied. The second is just like you said, it does happen, unfortunately. They are companies and I'm sure every one of them has done something similar to get out of what they owe. I live in NY, there's a lot of protections for insured parties here. I've never had to have the state step in per se, but that also doesn't mean the looming possibility isn't keeping insurers in line. YMMV depending on where you live and who your insurer is. All we can do is follow the rules of the plan, cross your T's dot your I's, and hope for the best. Fetch has been great to me fwiw. If I have questions I call, I get a person on the phone, it's been better than my actual health insurance through my job LOL
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Jokes on you, my 3.5 year old shepherd mix needed TPLO surgery, $10k+ later... (Pet insurance was a life saver, highly recommend!)
I’ve had both ASPCA and MetLife and I’ve just had to upload receipts and a SOAP note provided by the vet. Literally never had a problem being reimbursed by either, and one of them covers (at 80%) my dogs prescription food. Again I just upload a receipt
Pet insurance! I got it for my husbands dog when he was 9 and had no prior issues. I was like he is only getting older. Best thing I ever did lol.
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When the bill turns into a decision about when to stopThe reply that says the quiet part, and the long argument underneath it about where each commenter set their own limit.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: When the bill turns into a decision about when to stop
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When the bill turns into a decision about when to stop
Situation: An expensive treatment is offered for an old or seriously ill dog and the owner has to decide whether to take it
Why readers chose it: 50 records, and the card exists because one comment said the quiet part out loud and was upvoted for it rather than buried. The line commenters draw is first stated in money — over $4,000, anything approaching a mortgage payment, the cost of replacing the dog — and then immediately re-argued as a quality-of-life question instead. A veterinary technician supplies the rule the card keeps returning to, that it is better to be a week early than a day late. The dissent is just as specific: one commenter enrolled a dog in a chemotherapy clinical trial and reports no regrets; another describes a cat kept alive to twenty-five on spoon-fed food and calls it cruelty. Several say the hardest part was not the money at all but a veterinary team that never raised quality of life with them.
What readers reported: I'll get downvoted to hell for this but.... If an elderly dog is going to cost thousands to keep alive just long enough for the next $1k+ vet bill, it's time to say goodbye.
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Nah, no downvote. That's compassion. No animal in its elder years should have to suffer surgery after surgery and all that pain just because an owner doesn't want to grieve. We had a cat that my father found as a kitten when I was 3. My father passed away when I was 4. That cat lived to 25 years old because my mother just would not let it go. It was on a regimen of medications, special food that needed to be spoon fed because he couldn't walk to the food dish. Every hour she moved him around and fed him eyedroppers of distilled water. She had to rub ointments into his skin, paws, nose because his skin was so delicate it would just tear and bleed if it got dry. He was on dialysis treatments because his little kidneys didn't work. Eventally he would just turn his head towards you with his blind clouded bulging eyes and his little meow that was just air, you could see he was begging to be let go. The vet refused to continue dialysis treatment citing that it is only meant to be used while kidneys heal on a cat. His kidneys were not going heal. She tried to find another vet that would continue without success, and Ned was finally allowed to pass. At a certain point, medical treatment becomes cruelty.
Couldn’t agree more. Not only it’s a financial strain for you that might not even pay off but it also sucks for the dog. Vet visits and treatment is stressful on top of the pain you’re already feeling. It’s just not worth it, and while it comes from a good place, this too is a kind of greed.
Nope, I love my 2 goldens, but the threshold for vet bills is the cost to get a new dog. And yes owning dogs sucks because its basically another child you have to house, feed and care for.
No, you’re right. I grew up fairly rural so maybe my relationship to animals is different. We had a lot of outside cats around. When one got really sick and old… it was time to take them in to be euthanized. Otherwise they’d eventually just go off and hide and die on their own in pain. I have a buddy who had a gigantic golden retriever. Probably 140 pound dog. Its leg randomly broke at like age 8. He paid thousands and thousands of dollars to fix the leg and the dog was in pain for months and months recovering with pins in its leg. Couldn’t ever walk right really again. Should have amputated but he didn’t want to. As if the dog would have cared if he had 3 legs. A year later they find out the dog has cancer and that’s what caused the bone break. So now the leg is broken again but it’s bone cancer. So they amputate. The dog is miserable and in pain for another year hobbling around with 3 legs and sitting on the couch and whining and crying all day waiting for him to get home from work so he can give him more pain meds. Finally the dog is so bad that his vet basically says “it’s time dude what are you doing” and he relents and lets the dog go. Not sure what he spent. I’d guess well north of 20,000 dollars. Maybe even north of 30k. Years of torturing his “best buddy” because he couldn’t process losing a pet. I think he reacted more poorly to his dog dying than I did either of my grandparents. But maybe I grew up in a very morbid house where people talked about death a lot and made it clear how they felt about it.
You are getting my upvote that's for sure. I've grown up with dogs and "my" dog I grew up closest too was kept alive just like that... looking back at it it fucking hurts, never again. I totally agree with you. I love my dog a lot! But he is still just a dog. I will play with him every day, feed him, exercise him and give him everything he needs. But when he gets too old or his health gets too bad it's time for us to say goodbye. I've been through it tho, so I know how it feels and I know it's coming.
I just got a bonus at work and like the next week of course the car broke and my dog got a bad ear infection. That came back so needed a 2nd round of treatment. Wiped out that bonus
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It sucks, but you're right. If someone has the money, then sure, absolutely do what you can to help them, *but* there also comes a time when people have to consider the dog's quality of life over everything else. As awful as it is, letting go too soon is going to be far better for them than them suffering for nothing but their person's benefit (and unfortunately I see that happen all too often)
We just spent 8 on my cat. I found him unresponsive on the floor, then as he got worse I had to have a tough conversation with my husband about where to draw the line because that was absolutely all of our savings, and we have a baby coming and our bills are only getting higher. He kept treating the cat. Thank God he lived, but now we're fucked and I'm a little resentful.
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Those are easy ones. Wait until you want to go in a vacation, or for your logical brain to meet your emotional brain when the dog needs $10,000 in treatment at 10 years old.
Here’s the unpopular opinion. I love dogs all kinds. I loved my dogs very much. But if it’s over 4000 it’s getting put down.
"My dog loves me but he wouldn't want me to go in debt to keep him alive for another couple years that would probably involve him suffering with arthritus and hip displasia."
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The running cost nobody budgeted forNot the emergency: the monthly total of food, medication, grooming, boarding and pet rent, itemised by the people paying it.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: The running cost nobody budgeted for
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The running cost nobody budgeted for
Situation: Working out what a dog costs in an ordinary month, with no emergency in it
Why readers chose it: 47 records, and unlike the surgery card these carry monthly rather than one-off numbers. The itemised totals run from a commenter whose dog costs well under 100 euro a month to one who averages $800 a month across a year and, at the top, a household spending around $30,000 a year plus a $12,000 fence. The recurring lines are the same everywhere: prescription or allergy food around $90 a month, medication around $100 a month, grooming at roughly $100 a session, boarding, and vaccinations that one commenter points out cost more than $100 on their own. Several note the direction of travel — that food prices, vet fees and boarding rates have all roughly doubled or tripled since they got the dog. The counterpoint inside the card is that a healthy dog on ordinary kibble genuinely is cheap, and that the expense arrives with age.
What readers reported: I essentially feed my dog money. He has really bad allergies, needs lots of walks (lots), constant ear infections, needs medication that is $100 a month, and special food that is $90 a month. When we go away it's like $400 for someone to watch him. His annual visits are about $300 for all his shots and stuff. He is addicted to greenies so god forbid we don't give one to him at 8PM. Because of his allergies, he needs grooming all the time too which is about $100 lol I will love him and be by his side until the very end, because he is so loyal to my wife and I, but I could only imagine life being cheaper and less complicated once he passes. He has been through so much with us. He is 9 now. I love that dog so much though. I'd do anything for him, but I truly understand.
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Also I know many people who complain about how they have no money, can’t save, rent is so high, etc yet they have dogs. You’re broke, dude, why not first learn how to afford just you then add a dog????
I just got a bonus at work and like the next week of course the car broke and my dog got a bad ear infection. That came back so needed a 2nd round of treatment. Wiped out that bonus
There are some ways to train and help with some of that but even then yes, dogs are a big ass responsibility. I dread the day my broke ass has to take my dog to the vet, 2-3 years so far and he's all good
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My gosh, was that anytime in the last decade?? 😅 I would tell the shelter they need to be realistic in what they tell people. That would unfortunately cause some people to dump a dog after getting it.
Im in soo much fkn debt cuz of my dogs I hate it im over having pets 😒
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I love dogs and have kept two at a time for many years. But you are not wrong. Luckily mine have never had chronic poop issues (maybe try adding some pureed pumpkin to your dog’s meal? It doesn’t take much. Or ask your vet for dietary recommendations). But in addition to all you say, you have to find care when you travel which can be expensive, vet bills are increasingly outrageous, insurance is becoming more necessary, even very good dogs are inherently messy and can be accidentally destructive, and it can be hard to find living space to accommodate them, etc etc). I have always taken in dogs from shelters or ones that need rehoming but I am kind of thinking that my current pair will be my last. Or i will at least take a break for awhile. They do give me a sense of security, keep me exercising more, and are very sweet and cuddly. But they are a lot.
10 years later your finances might look very different
We spend about $30,000/ year for food , vet (one needed Qpk in surgery and treatment)and treats for our dog. We also installed a $12000 fence for the yard. Worth every penny imho. We love them.
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The schedule that never lets upNot one large sacrifice but the same small one, several times a day, for ten to fifteen years. 249 records.
The walk: twice a day, in every weather, for a decadeThe complaint is not the walk. It is that illness, weather and a bad day do not excuse you from it.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: The walk: twice a day, in every weather, for a decade
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The walk: twice a day, in every weather, for a decade
Situation: Getting a dog outside on the days you have nothing left
Why readers chose it: 21 records, and the complaint is unusually precise: not the walk but its unconditionality. Commenters name the things that do not excuse it — a fever, COVID, a blizzard, ten inches of rain in five hours, hundred-degree heat, their own stomach bug — and several add that they enjoy walking and resent the obligation anyway. The volume quoted runs from three outings a day up to four walks totalling an hour and a half to two hours. The people without a yard describe an extra layer the rest do not have: dressing for outdoors, going down, waiting, coming back up and cleaning paws, three or four times daily, for the life of the dog.
What readers reported: I cared for my dog mostly on my own for 14 years, I loved her and miss her so much. I'm not taking another one until I retire (I'm under 30), unless I could get her back, which I can't because just like people, they can't come back to life. Nobody talks about one of the hardest tasks: walking your dog when you're sick and have fever! Omg, and don't get me started on walking them when you yourself have diarrhea, that's a risky game! I love your post, because dogs are great, but you do have to build your life around them, just like you do with kids. It's so rewarding to have a dog, but it's far from being easy. Everyone should know that before they get one. Sometimes when I see puppies, I wonder how I managed to train mine on my own when I was just 13.
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Having to wake up at 4am with COVID because you have to walk that fucker or she will shit all over your living room floor. Never again, man.
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I find it so interesting that this isn't the norm? I know AI can be wrong, but whenever I tell it I walk my dog 4 times a day, 3 short 15-20 minute walks and one long 45 minutes-1 hour walk a day (1.5 hours to 2 hours in total a day), it says that's a lot and to be careful it's not too much for him. Like what? I thought this was normal (we don't have a yard and where I live people usually don't let their dogs poop in their yards anyway). My dog is 12 kg and a moderately active breed. 11 months old.
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Pets are a huge responsibility, 2 cats is probably the easiest combo. Pets are Well worth it in my mind but having the dog probably adds an extra hour to 2 hours to my daily chores and responsibilities. Getting the right breed for life style is a big one, I don’t know how many people I know that get active working breeds and think 2 walks a week is going to keep that dog content. Just feel bad for the dog to be honest.
I find it so interesting that this isn't the norm? I know AI can be wrong, but whenever I tell it I walk my dog 4 times a day, 3 short 15-20 minute walks and one long 45 minutes-1 hour walk a day (1.5 hours to 2 hours in total a day), it says that's a lot and to be careful it's not too much for him. Like what? I thought this was normal (we don't have a yard and where I live people usually don't let their dogs poop in their yards anyway). My dog is 12 kg and a moderately active breed. 11 months old.
needing to take them on walks to handle basic biology functions is a big part of why "owning a dog fucking sucks" .. you ain't making a good case.
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The countdown that ends every eveningRecords about the clock rather than the chore: plans cut short, and hours away from home that have to be counted first.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: The countdown that ends every evening
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The countdown that ends every evening
Situation: Being somewhere you are enjoying and having to leave because of the dog
Why readers chose it: 43 records about the clock rather than the chore. The loss commenters name is spontaneity: staying longer at a friend's house, a drink after work, a film, an unplanned overnight. Several put an interval on it — six hours, eight hours, a few hours at most — and describe planning the day backwards from it, including one household where somebody drives home every working lunchtime. The card also holds the second-order effect, which is social: friends on the other side of it who noticed how much less they see the dog owner, and dog owners who admit the same line doubles as a way to leave early when they want to.
What readers reported: This is the biggest issue and it's a sub comment like 10 commandments down lol. Going to a friend's and want to just stay longer? NOPE gotta to home my dogs sad and lonely so I can't make impromptu plans or do anything away from home that's fun for any length of time.
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This is the biggest issue and it's a sub comment like 10 commandments down lol. Going to a friend's and want to just stay longer? NOPE gotta to home my dogs sad and lonely so I can't make impromptu plans or do anything away from home that's fun for any length of time.
I actually broke up w a girl because her dog was so fucking time consuming it was unreal. Her whole life revolves around her dog.
Tbh. Ive often hated having go stop what im doing and walk tbe dog. But Rain or shine ive never Regretted walking the dog. I was often dissapointed i had to leave whatever fun i was doing go go home and make sure tbe dog was ok. Ive never been happier walking in that door and seeing his tail wag. Ive often been frustrated i had to plan travel around my dog. Ive never as excited as bringing them on a trip. Negative emotions are normal and natural but loving is looking at the good not the bad
Never had kids, and I always wanted a dog and finally got one at 31, a black lab. It’s hard to imagine what it’s like without previously having one, or kids. They are always there. You have to attend to every one of their needs and most of their wants. You have to always keep them in mind when making plans. Can’t just pick up and go out of town for the weekend. Can’t go someplace and hang out till midnight after work. Can’t spend the night somewhere. Not without making arrangements for the dog. They can be demanding, especially once a routine is established, and it’s worse the smarter they are, and the more finely tuned their internal clocks are. Meal times were inviolate. I walked him every night around 9. He learned that. Around 830, he’d start nudging my feet while I sat on the couch. By 9, he’d be practically freaking out, almost biting my feet and tearing my shoes up unless I’d get up, put my shoes on, and take him out. One morning I woke up early and could not get back to sleep so I decided to take him on a bonus morning walk. That suddenly became my new wake up routine. Couldn’t sleep past 6-630 anymore. Have to rearrange the house, dog-proof it. Had to get a commercial style garbage can for the kitchen with the hinged door on it because he would tear into it looking for anything that smelled good. One day we were out for a walk and he had a hard time pooping. Eventually he does and out comes one of those little pads they put in the bottom of a package of meat. Lucky he didn’t get bound up and die. Constantly having to get more food and treats. And the vet visits. One dark and rainy night after a walk, I dried his fur and paws off with a towel before going back inside. The towel came away bloody from one paw, so off to the emergency vet we go. She said it looked like he lacerated himself on a piece of broken glass that he must have stepped on somewhere. So that was $250 out the door for exam, meds, and sutures, then another chunk to remove them later (this was before dissolving sutures). And the regular checkups aren’t cheap either. Being a responsible dog owner is a tough commitment, no question. But for all that I wouldn’t give up a moment with him or any of the little dudes I’ve had since him. The way he’d sit in the front seat of the car all upright, watching the world pass by through the windows and would know to lean into the turns just makes my heart sing after all these years.
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It completely takes over your life and and your schedule.... It's exhausting
Dogs are like kids, unless you have a yard they can hang out in, your life now revolves around a dog. They are great for lonely people, but if you have any semblance of a life, say bye-bye to it, you gotta be home by 8p every night or you aren't getting your security deposit back.
I have a 4 lb ball and chain. I cant go anywhere because he is a total monster. I get the sentiment!
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Holidays, boarding and the trips not takenWhere the schedule turns into a budget line, with the boarding and sitter prices attached.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Holidays, boarding and the trips not taken
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Holidays, boarding and the trips not taken
Situation: Costing a holiday when the dog cannot come and cannot be left
Why readers chose it: 63 records where the schedule becomes a price. Boarding is quoted at $45 to $50 a night, $300 a week, $2,500 for a week of in-home sitting, and €600 for a month with relatives; one commenter puts a $700 surcharge on a two-week trip before anything else is booked. Boarding also generates its own requirements — another $400 of shots in one case, and one commenter reports a medical emergency every single time they board. The softer version is a holiday taken but spent worrying. The hardest version is not going: nine years without travel in one record, a decade of missed hiking and camping in another, and several couples who now holiday separately so somebody is always home.
What readers reported: I agreed with the extra travel expense. It's at least $50 per day for boarding. A two week trip gets a bonus cost of at least $700 when dog boarding is needed.
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I hate that I wasted a decade of my pre-kid life by not being able to go hiking, camping, or other vacations because of my dogs. So many missed opportunities and experiences. Either can't find sitters or too expensive to afford it. I love dogs but never again.
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The amount of stuff my friend missed out on cause he "had to go home to his dog" is insane and always bummed us out. But that's what some people choose. Also I could never own one cause I just travel for 2 weeks at a time sometimes and I'm not paying even more money for boarding. Edit: we have been and still are friends 20+ years later. All your assumptions are hilarious. He has a dog and lived alone most the time. That's comes with responsibility obviously. He's not missing anything important. Just chilling with the boys. Obviously over 20+ years it's gonna happen a bunch, that's just life.
Yea my dog is no longer a puppy. He's also dumb af. And on vacations it costs to board him. But my daughter loves him so screwed til nature does its thing.
I love my dogs, but once they are gone I don’t think I will be getting more. Between extreme codependency (on each other), crippling anxiety for one, and hyperactivity (at 9) with the other, vacations are impossible without spending hella $$$ on someone to house sit the whole time. But I do love them very much.
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The puppy monthsThe one phase nearly everybody agrees is temporary, and the sleep it costs while it lasts.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: The puppy months
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The puppy months
Situation: The first six to twelve months, before any of it settles
Why readers chose it: 17 records, and they are the most cheerfully agreed-on in the corpus: several commenters who otherwise defend dog ownership say flatly that they do not like puppies. The costs named are sleep — getting up twice a night, standing outside in a storm at three in the morning waiting for a dog to urinate — and unbroken supervision, with the crate described as the only break available. Two parents who have raised both say the puppy was harder than the newborn. The card is also the only burden in this article with a stated end: almost everyone in it describes a phase that passed, which is precisely what the senior-years records do not.
What readers reported: I like dogs but puppies come straight from hell. My last one I remember standing outside with him in the middle of the night in a storm crying because I was so tired and he wouldn't pee.
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I disagree 🤣 so much. I had a horrible pregnancy, labor and postpartum. I thought I was gonna die of exhaustion. My whole body was wacko and hurt so much. I was like hyper vigilant of my kid. Mother nature took control of me. You know mama bear yeah that is me. holly. Anyways, I got a pup now and I was a bit afraid after my experience with my kid. It is the easiest ride ever. My body doesn't hurt plus. My mind is calm plus. It is so easy lol. I guess it depends on temperament. I did research and made sure to get something chill
I was so excited to finally get a dog. I love him and he's well taken care of, but never again. And I don't know why anyone likes puppies. That was terrible. Again, adorable, but what a nightmare.
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I think puppies are worse than babies and no one can tell me otherwise. I dated someone with a boxer puppy, and it was hell on Earth with that lil dementor. i have never had either. Babies AT LEAST shit in diapers most of the time and not the floor. And you dont have to walk them in the freezing cold for them to come back inside to just shit under your bed. Nor will babies gobble down your chili cheese coney when you turn your back for 5 seconds. Nor do babies eat your things.
I was so excited to finally get a dog. I love him and he's well taken care of, but never again. And I don't know why anyone likes puppies. That was terrible. Again, adorable, but what a nightmare.
I find puppies and untrained large dogs exhausting. Small dogs can be loud, but you can easily pick them up. Well trained large older dogs are more manageable. A puppy and a toddler at the same time? Nahhh, I wouldn’t dare.
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Working breeds, and the hours they actually needOwners of herding and hunting breeds putting a number on it — miles, hours, or a job the dog can actually do.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Working breeds, and the hours they actually need
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Working breeds, and the hours they actually need
Situation: Owning a dog that was bred to work all day in a house where nobody works it
Why readers chose it: 31 records that put numbers on exercise. A border collie owner reports three to five miles of walking a day plus two high-energy fetch sessions and indoor play; another describes a morning walk, training, a physically demanding job, then an hour of fetch and an hour-long off-leash hike. One dog's GPS collar logged 700 minutes of activity in a day against a recommended 120. The corrections inside the card are as useful as the claims: several owners argue that running a working dog for miles conditions it to need more, and that mental work and an actual job do more than distance. Border collies, Australian shepherds, huskies, malinois and corgis are named again and again, usually by the people who own them.
What readers reported: I got a border collie as a failed emergency foster when my neighbor died. He's about 5 and needs 3-5 miles of walks per day, plus 2 10-minute high energy fetch sessions + indoor playtime where we tug and chase and hide and seek. Every day, unless we're doing something special like a hike or going to a house where he can run around with another dog in the yard. And he's a CHILL border collie.
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My nan had a corgi and a border collie. They were sweetest, gentlest cuddle-bum dogs you've ever met. That said, my nan had the magical ability to completely shut anyone down with a mere facial expression, human or animal. God help you if you ever forced her to vocalise her displeasure. And, like a postie, neither snow nor rain nor heat nor glom of night could stay that woman from exhausting them with walks. I later realised that my nan's corgi and border collie were definitely representative of the exception, not the rule.
Corgis, Border Collies, and Australian Shepherds, some of the most high energy dogs you will ever find. Thery were all bred for herding cattle. Peoepl definitiely need to understand this before owning one.
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Same goes for Border Collie. People get them because they’re cute but good lord do they have non stop energy. You need to run them for MILES every day to keep them happy.
Same with Catahoulas Loved my boy but damn...No I do not want to play frisbee as soon as we are home from the 7 mile run. This theme runs with all working dogs. They need to have intense physical and mental stimulation to keep them happy (and tired).
I had an Australian shepard. There was very little time for me. It he wasn't sleeping, he was sitting there staring at me. Always wanting something. Would have to take him for three walks a day so his energy would be spent. So many vet bills for random weird issues. The way he took off running affected/hurt his toes and they had to be amputated. Would always get infections on his tail. Barked at absolutely every single noise with his high, shrill sheep dog voice. Loved to roll in dead fish whenever possible. Couldn't handle being around other dogs. Or humans. Would eat frozen bones even if his mouth bled. Fucking exhausting, absolutely. But I loved him and miss him.
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Doing it alone: single owners, shift work and no backupThe same dog with no second adult in the house, and what happens when the support network moves away.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Doing it alone: single owners, shift work and no backup
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Doing it alone: single owners, shift work and no backup
Situation: Carrying the whole dog with no second adult in the house
Why readers chose it: 28 records about the person who is not there. Commenters describe cutting their hours and changing jobs so the dog is not alone for twelve, and building every day around a six- or eight-hour ceiling. The detail that recurs is that the arrangement worked at adoption and then changed underneath them: a support network moved away, a marriage ended, a partner died, a disability arrived, a retirement started. Several are explicit that they would not do it solo again, and one names the specific version of the guilt — knowing the dog gets less stimulation than it should because of a work schedule that cannot move.
What readers reported: Can't be away from home more than 6 hours at a time. Can't go on vacation without extensive and/or expensive arrangements. Thousands of dollars in vet fees at the very least, not to mention more if the dog needs chronic health management. I had to significantly cut my hours and change my job just so my dog doesn't have to be alone for 12 hours.
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That’s true. My ex and I both worked long hours when I had my German shepherd. She was left alone for well over 8 hours every week day. I’m retired now so the Yorkies are with me all day unless I have errands and other things going on. They’ve never been home alone for a full day.
But it doesn't though... Two 30 minute walks fill up the bowl at the same time. Done. Personally we brushed our family dogs fur and teeth everyday but that is by no means required.
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Before my Yorkies, 20 years ago, I had one German Shepherd and 2 cats. They all slept together and played together. The two Yorkies usually do well being left in the same kennel together. I’ve never left them alone for more than 4 hours though. The German shepherd I had could be left alone with freedom to roam the house. I don’t trust my Yorkies to have freedom to roam while left alone. Not yet anyway. Edited to add that the two Yorkies don’t have an aggressive nature. They have never been aggressive towards each other. They will just ignore each other and go to their separate places. Which unfortunately is becoming too often lately.
I’ve grown up with animals. Loved it. As a solo dad now though, I am so tired of having animals. Don’t get me wrong, I do love them. But once they pass away, I will not be getting more. I am constantly overwhelmed. My partner died this year which has made it even harder. Between the kids, the animals, work, the house upkeep, and unfortunately a merged household which I am stuck in for the foreseeable future, we now have a combo of 4 dogs and 2-3 cats at any given time. The whining, the neediness, the dogs have formed anxiety attachment issues to other family members, it’s exhausting. I don’t have the time and energy to take care of my kids, my animals, and still have energy and time to properly take care of myself. All of my time is spent taking care of others, it is beyond exhausting. I am so tired of just constantly being *needed.* There is always a need. A request. I need food, I need to go outside, I need to go potty, I need water, I need attention, I need my butt wiped / poop cleaned up / litterbox cleaned, I need I need I need. Animals are already clingy and needy, kids on top of that is just so much. Kids/animals to adults we are outnumbered 10>3 I’ve never been bothered by the care and upkeep of animals before becoming a parent. But now? I am simply spent beyond capacity. Perhaps when my kids are no longer little and need help with literally every aspect of existing, I will have the energy and patience once more, but I am looking forward to (eventually) no longer having extra lives to take care of for awhile. One of my pups passed away in 2024, he made it to 18, and passed away in my arms. He was 2 when we rescued him and I had him over half of my life, I grew up with him. I loved him dearly. Still, in his last few years caring for him became challenging. He wasn’t able to control his bowels much (if at all) and needed to be carried inside/outside every potty break. Vet bills add up as they get old too. On top of all of the care, you have yet another family member to grieve the loss of. I’ve lost so many people this year alone, I just cannot keep adding beings to my life which I know I will inevitably lose.
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I got my dog 10 years ago before I even graduated high school. Another point I guess, is that it's really hard to adapt your lifestyle changes when you have a dog.
Also: You get attached, they live relatively young lives and die If you work from an office job, they spend 90% of their days alone, it's quite terrible
That's exactly my point. Who the hell has the option to never leave their animal alone for more than 4 hours, usually people are working for 8 hours 5 days a week..
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The dog that needs you in the room, every minuteThe clinginess complaint, made mostly by people who say in the same breath that they love the dog doing it.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: The dog that needs you in the room, every minute
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The dog that needs you in the room, every minute
Situation: A dog that will not settle unless it is touching you
Why readers chose it: 46 records about attention rather than time. The word that recurs is velcro, and the specific complaint is that the dog cannot occupy itself: it stares, follows, blocks the hallway and inserts itself into anything happening in the house. Several commenters name breeds bred for exactly this — Bernese mountain dogs, golden retrievers, yorkies, whippets, cavalier crosses — and note that the trait was in the description they read before choosing. The phrasing this card produces most often is some version of loving the dog and resenting the demand simultaneously, and a second cluster reports the same discovery from outside, after a few days of house-sitting somebody else's.
What readers reported: I have two Yorkies. The neediest dogs ever. Had I known they were going to constantly be looking to me to entertain them every second of the day, I would have never adopted them. I adopted two with the expectation that they would keep each other occupied. It’s exhausting. I love them and resent them.
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My Yorkie is actually very chill and lovely. She know how to be by herself, she understands when to stop. She's collected, never broke anything, doesn't jump, doesn't bark for attention. I'm sure I won the doggy lottery!
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I have two Yorkies. The neediest dogs ever. Had I known they were going to constantly be looking to me to entertain them every second of the day, I would have never adopted them. I adopted two with the expectation that they would keep each other occupied. It’s exhausting. I love them and resent them.
I have a lurcher with predominantly whippet and greyhound on his mother's side, and he is perfect in every way but so needy its drives me mad. I got him at 18 months old, and just like OP's dogs, he wants me to be his sole source of entertainment, and it IS exhausting. Every time I need a break I feel like a terrible owner, even though I've spent most of the day petting him and playing with him and walking him, because he just pesters and pesters and won't accept that I'm done. He takes it as a great betrayal. I'd be fine if he just wanted to follow me everywhere, but he has to have pets ALL the time. Or play. Or a walk. I love him to death but whatever dog you get, please enforce independence when theyre a pup, and don't allow them to make you their only source of happiness. My working cocker x jack russell puppy is SO much easier, because he will happily entertain himself.
Damn did I write this 😂 My Yorkie is clingy AF and I’m tired of cleaning up dog poop. But my Yorkie is extremely smart. Unbelievably smart for a dog I think sometimes.
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The messWhat the original post opened with, and the part of it almost nobody in the replies denies is real. 297 records.
Picking it up, several times a day, foreverThe most-reported single chore in the corpus, and the one the replies fight over hardest — including what a yard does under snow.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Picking it up, several times a day, forever
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Picking it up, several times a day, forever
Situation: Clearing a yard, a pavement or a snowed-over lawn, every day, for the life of the dog
Why readers chose it: 131 records, the most-reported single chore in the corpus, and the complaint is duration rather than disgust: several commenters point out that a child is toilet-trained within a few years and a dog never is. Snow is the recurring aggravator, with commenters in Colorado, Minnesota, Maine, Montreal and Ottawa all describing a winter's worth surfacing in one spring thaw; dog size is the other, with small-dog owners calling the job trivial and large-dog owners disagreeing in detail. The card also contains the fixes that came from inside it: a gravel or turf run, a corded-off corner of the yard, collecting it as it happens, a long-handled scoop, and paying somebody weekly to do it.
What readers reported: Imagine forgetting to pick up the yard from two big dogs and then it snows. Such a nice suprise when it melts.
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Omg it’s even worse when you’re on concrete. They’re all melted like puddles.
My dog is 11 lb, his poop is way longer than you would think. But I guess a big dog would have even worse poop.
It is. But of all the animals to own, dogs are by far the easiest to train and have them do what you find acceptable is this not true?
>I have never been more scared in my life of walking into my own backyard When you let her out to poop, grab a poop bag and wait for her to finish, then run out there and gather it up. One small job each time she poops will be much easier to deal with mentally than one big job cleaning up days and days worth of poops. I had a dog almost constantly in my life until the age of 50 (aside from my college years). I'm over it. Love them all like my own family, but never again. They're an anchor to going on trips and doing stuff that I like to do now that I'm older. And bringing them places is a pain in the ass too - you have to get the dingy hotel room, you can't walk them in certain places, some of them don't travel well, etc. etc. Plus most of them are so inbred and fucking stupid I don't want to have to "deal" with them. The few fleeting moments of joy don't outweigh the frustrations and inconveniences they introduce into my life. So I hear you.
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The smell of fresh dog poo is my kryptonite unfortunately, there is no way I could deal with handling that every day.
Dogs might not be for you op by please know that the shitting everywhere and eating random shit can be trained out. My dogs shit in a specific corner (designated by a sand gravel mix like a big litter tray) and know not to eat random shit. With the clingyness unfortunately breed effects that a lot. Some breeds are known to basically want to be under your skin 24/7, it's what we bred them to be like. Great if you want a dog that's obsessed either you, not so great when you want to be able to sit down without a dog on top of you. You can also train out the playing issues. Dogs first instinct when they see their family play is to join in. You can train that out by redirecting them to safer play methods I.e bring their favourite toy instead of barreling into a toddler
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Imagine forgetting to pick up the yard from two big dogs and then it snows. Such a nice suprise when it melts.
What's with the dog crap everywhere? My family never used to poop scoop and it was grim. As an adult, I have sectioned off a patch of artificial grass for my dog to crap on. We pick up his shit the moment it lands, and hose it down and disinfect it regularly. Everyone in the household knows the score. Bag it and bin it immediately.
But you’d have to clean it up as soon as it happens. People have lives and can’t just watch their dog 24/7. Of course they’re not gonna clean the yard up daily. And dogs get diarrhea… have fun picking that up bleh. And the kind of diet that some dogs need so they have normal bowel movements… I mean it’s more than some human meals.
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Shedding, and the hair in everythingHair as a permanent housekeeping tax, measured by how often people say they have to sweep.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Shedding, and the hair in everything
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Shedding, and the hair in everything
Situation: Keeping a house liveable with a coat blowing through it
Why readers chose it: 29 records, measured almost entirely in sweeping frequency: twice a day for a Great Dane, daily for a black lab, constantly for a household of four goldens. Commenters describe hair as a house-wide tax rather than a chore — on the bed, in the car, on work clothes, clogging radiators and fans, and destroying the vacuums bought to deal with it. Great Pyrenees and German shepherd owners name the seasonal blow-out specifically, and one German shepherd owner says the work was invisible to her until children arrived and she stopped having the bandwidth for it. The one report of the burden lifting comes from a household that temporarily rehomed a heavy shedder and stopped needing to vacuum daily.
What readers reported: Based on all these comments, this is not an unpopular opinion lol! A lot of “I love dogs, but,” I see it though. We have 4, which is a lot. The hair being everywhere is honestly the worst part for me. We can clean our entire house and in one day dust is already back and hair tumbleweeds on the floor. But here’s my unpopular opinion —I will take a dog shitting outside and cleaning it any day than having a cat that shits and pisses inside. And their piss is basically ammonia. We had two, and I will never own a cat again. I don’t fuck with litter boxes. Like others have said, love them as animals —and for some reason cats seem to really like me. But not as a personal pet.
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i am glad your wife & grandma don't own a german shepherd. i have one. i already broke 2 Dyson's.
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I hate the hair. I hate it so much. It’s a daily if not twice daily sweeping to keep up. I love my two dogs, and my German shepherd is like my best buddy, but I’ll never get dogs again. Plus, since the pandemic era and economy tanking I’ve lost substantial income too that I haven’t been able to recover and I can’t afford dogs in the future anyway if it remains this way.
I HATE IT! I inherited my husbands chocolate lab and he sheds everywhere. He is 6, he is so sweet and I take care of him and love him but omg... I can't wait to never clean up dog hair again. He is also so clingy, up my ass all the time, and he is large so he doesn't get how much space he takes up. Then I thought it would be a great idea to get a shihtzu puppy because I wanted a dog to help me grieve my miscarriage. What the fuck was I thinking? I've committed to 15 years of dogs. I love my dogs a lot, they are amazing companions, and there are more pros than cons. But I told my husband after they both go we are remaining dog free for a LONG time.
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We had a Pyrenees and the amount of shedding that dog did was insane. Plus he needed a bath at least weekly or he stank really really bad.
We recently temporarily rehomed our heavy shedding dog to my in laws while we prepare to move across the country so we can do showings of our current house and let inspector type people in without having to find somewhere to take her in 90 degree weather multiple times a week. We haven’t had to vacuum every single day and the entire house actually stays clean when it’s been cleaned. I love and miss my dog but I’m dreading moving her into our new house. Dogs are just so nasty all the time. Wet floors from water bowls, random hair everywhere and occasional accidents? I never understood non-pet people but I’m starting to
i am glad your wife & grandma don't own a german shepherd. i have one. i already broke 2 Dyson's.
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The smell of the dog, and then of the houseThe complaint dog owners are most likely to deny and everyone else in the room is most likely to confirm.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: The smell of the dog, and then of the house
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The smell of the dog, and then of the house
Situation: Working out whether the house smells and whether anything fixes it
Why readers chose it: 70 records, and the card is a straight disagreement rather than a consensus. Non-owners and recent converts describe a smell that survives bathing, gets into walls, furniture and clothes, and that the owner has gone nose-blind to; owners answer that a bathed, brushed dog with clean teeth does not smell, that a greasy coat in an older dog is treatable rather than inevitable, and that the complainants have simply met badly kept dogs. Both sides supply mechanisms: coat type, drool, ear infections and diet on one side, bathing and grooming frequency on the other. The detail several commenters volunteer, and which neither side disputes, is that they only noticed it after living without a dog.
What readers reported: OP, wait until the grease builds up. Short hair dogs are notorious for it. When they get older bathing even every day won't cure it. They get greasy and itchy and rub against everything and leave stains. It's a smell that won't go away, a grease that won't wash off. You pet them, and your hand gets greasy. Good luck.
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For me it is the smell and the barking. I can't stand the sound of barking. I once asked a dog person if there is a dog breed that doesn't bark at all, and there is supposed to be one but instead of barking they just say yipyipyip. Nope, nope, nope. Cats smell nice and do not bark. They also shit in a box which makes the whole thing much easier to deal with.
i have two cats and it is ruining my life. one of them has some kind of hair disorder, she has three times as many hairs as a normal cat should have, and she is pure white. my entire apartment is covered in cat hair, dust, bits of litter they carry between their paws, and puke. i leave for 10 hours and there is puke all over the place. i go to bed and wake up and step in puke. i got them the sensitive stomach food- they still puke, mostly her, because she has too much hair and licks herself and pukes. they've spilled cat food all over the floor. i have to keep a faucet running all day for her to drink from because my cat fountain broke, and the constant running water has attracted fruit flies. and she is so affectionate- to the point that i can't be alone and all my clothes are ruined. i'm drowning in cat. i'm dying in here. i'm actually honestly having a really really bad time
I had a dog. Large mutt. Looked like a German shepherd lab mix. He was HUGE. Took him out of a bad situation. We kinda needed each other then. But as the years went on, I was way more miserable than I wasn't. He stunk, ALL. THE. TIME. Even after expensive trips to the groomer. I could never get the smell out of anything. Or off him. Something to do with the shepherd fur and undercoat. Yuck! I could not walk him, as he never learned what a leash was. He broke leashes, leads, reinforced cable tie outs, you name it. One excited dash, and SNAP! He never learned to alert if he needed to go out. Meaning, if I didn't hear him near the door, or didn't see him in time, he peed on the floor. Even if he'd just come in from outside, this would happen. Worse the older he got. He'd hover in the kitchen. Even of I shooed him off, he'd come right back. I had to lock him in his kennel just to cook. He bit me more than once trying to get food from my hand, that was never intended for him. He'd been to the vet for check up, shots, behavioral issues, but nothing. He was fine. He was dog. He was making me miserable, and I felt bad, and crazy because I resented him. He almost knocked me out once, in a trip to the vet. I was unaware the loose dog inside the door when I opened it. Drug me down and I hit my head. Of course, everyone in the building thought it was hilarious. 🤬 Took him to a different vet after that, one who would allow me straight into a room before anything else. The only good this dog ever brought to me, was a sense of calm. He was big, loud IF he barked, and Hella intimidating looking. I will never have another dog. And I won't get involved with anyone who has a dog. I don't care to visit people who have dogs either. I learned, dogs are really not my thing. I will stick with cats.
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I have liked some dogs but from afar. I can appreciate a good dog.But I can never be the one to touch it or own it.They are so greasy and have that dog smell that infiltrates your entire home and wardrobe. I like working dogs,hunting dogs,useful dogs. It doesn’t help that most owners are pieces of shiz that will compare loss of their dog to you losing your mom or will neglect their kids in favor of their dog. Not for me. Maybe you’re one of the good owners and im glad you found one you like. Im just grossed out and annoyed for the most part.They’re intrusive animals and I like my space.
Yeah, dogs are not for me, either. They’re also really dirty and stinky.
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Oh my god the smell is what does it for me. The smells and the dampness/wet spots everywhere
For me, it’s the scent. Dogs just have a scent, and I completely understand why some people can overlook it, but my God it’s not me. The smell of a dog is just so deeply unpleasant to me, and the thought of having that scent around me all the time and on all my furniture just sounds awful. It makes me a little nauseous if I’m honest. I also just can’t deal with getting licked. I don’t want drool on me. And unless you wash their feet after every walk, they track so much dirt in. I absolutely get why people like dogs, but I’m way too much of a neat freak to be one of them.
This thread is how most average people worldwide think about dog ownership. It is literally more difficult than a baby forever and the horrible bad dog smell never goes.
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Chewed, stolen and destroyedNamed objects and named damage, from a cedar chair cut in half to a bay window and a carpet-cleaner's estimate.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Chewed, stolen and destroyed
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Chewed, stolen and destroyed
Situation: Replacing what the dog got to
Why readers chose it: 13 records, and they read as an inventory rather than an argument: a cedar chair chewed through all sixteen slats until it came apart, a bay window knocked out, a screen door broken more times than the owner counted, half a pair of over-ear headphones, a Sunday roast taken off the table, laminate flooring ruined by urine, trash cans that now have to be taped shut. A professional carpet cleaner puts a range on the damage he has seen inside dog and cat households. What is notable is the tone: almost none of these commenters offer the damage as their reason for regretting the dog. It appears as the running cost of an ordinary one.
What readers reported: Took in a puppy for off the street a year ago. So far she has destroyed all the grass in the backyard dug so many holes, broke the screen door so many times I’ve lost count, chewed through my basement door trying to get the cats when they run downstairs. Broken the glass door in the front of the house, ate almost every pair of shoes I own, chewed up brushes, pens, hangers, remotes, blankets, and every dog bed I’ve bought her. She has ninja flipped off the bed into the tv stand and ruined my brand new 60 inch tv. 😩 within the first week of having her she apparently had Parvo and got really sick and I had to pay $600 in vet bills to get her better. She is the first and last dog I’ll ever take in.
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Took in a puppy for off the street a year ago. So far she has destroyed all the grass in the backyard dug so many holes, broke the screen door so many times I’ve lost count, chewed through my basement door trying to get the cats when they run downstairs. Broken the glass door in the front of the house, ate almost every pair of shoes I own, chewed up brushes, pens, hangers, remotes, blankets, and every dog bed I’ve bought her. She has ninja flipped off the bed into the tv stand and ruined my brand new 60 inch tv. 😩 within the first week of having her she apparently had Parvo and got really sick and I had to pay $600 in vet bills to get her better. She is the first and last dog I’ll ever take in.
Growing up we tried to train the dog not to take food from the counter, 5 people giving her treats and letting her lick plates clean before we clean them ourselves made this incredibly difficult, she used to get food from the counter and she stole a pizza on more then one occasion, we couldnt have windows open too since she broke the screens on all of them on the main level too. I miss her like hell though still
I felt I was a bad dog owner. I got one with my ex and I don't think she realized how hard it was. I had my couch torn up and it was only last year that I got my floor replaced. Some laminate floors end up really bad if a dog pisses on them. That said, eventually he calmed down. I broke up with my ex and she got the dog for a few years until stuff happened and I got the dog back for the rest of his life. After that, I tried to be a halfway decent owner. Walks everyday and the like. When I got a job locally, I didn't want to keep him in the crate all day (eventually we did crate training and that helped) so I would walk him on my breaks and if I was late I would get my parents to take him out. Having a local doggy daycare was also a life saver afterwards. But yeah, he had to be put down last year due to cancer. The cancer did a nasty job, and it broke through a bone in his nose. Despite that, he was very active and very energetic, which made it harder to put him down because he still had so much energy.
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Agreed. My husband’s pug is a monster. He can open trashcans with the pedal. He eats tissues and feminine products then proceeds to throw them up all over the house. I have to tape all trash cans shut. The hair.. the smell.. its horrible. My new house just smells like swamp dog ass and I hate it so much. Idk if he just wasn’t trained right or what but this mfkr is the bane of my existence especially with a toddler he’ll try to snap at. Im like can we get rid of this thing yet?? Im stuck taking care of him and the baby and it sucks. I have to keep them separate due to his behavior towards the baby like not okay. My husband doesn’t do anything for this dog while I have to. I still treat him love and stuff but I just cant take this shit anymore. He ruins all my furniture and blankets and sucks on the edges and other things. Cant leave any clothing on the floor. Cat person now and always. This dog drives to me drink some days lol…
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My grandma's Labrador ate the whole Sunday roast off the table when she went to the door to let the visitors in.
We have a black lab, but before him we had a yellow who was basically a California-surfer-dude in a dog's body, and a chocolate lab who was just an anxious, neurotic mess (but, secretly my favourite of them all...). Anyway, the chocolate lab, Hudson, once ate half a pair of quality over-the-ear headphones. Literally, consumed half a pair of headphones. But that is not the worst. He once barfed up an entire bar of soap, and then the next week he barfed up an entire log of poo. An entire log of the stuff. Barfed up on my front walkway. Still miss that sad little f'er. He was a good dog.
We can’t have nice couches but sometimes our dogs throw up on them. We have couch coverings on them, which makes our place look very unaesthetic. And bc no one is home 8 hours a day, sometimes our boys pee off their mat. Step on it and leave pee tracks in the house.
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Diarrhoea, accidents and the 3am clean-upThe mess that is not routine, described by the people who were awake for it.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Diarrhoea, accidents and the 3am clean-up
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Diarrhoea, accidents and the 3am clean-up
Situation: The mess that is not the routine mess
Why readers chose it: 26 records about clean-ups that were not on the schedule, and they are mostly nocturnal: a bedroom floor covered in watery stool at three in the morning, a puppy that smeared it through the house, a dog that drags itself across the carpet, a dog that eats its own or another dog's waste and vomits it onto a rug. Two owners of dogs that were kennel-raised or used as breeding stock describe house training that never took hold at all. Several connect this directly to the diet argument elsewhere in the thread — and several others report that they made every diet change suggested and it did not fix it.
What readers reported: I had the easiest dog ever, smart, sturdy and gentle with kids and other dogs. Everyone loved her, neighbours cried when she passed. It was still work. I will never forget that time when I got home late from work, like 1 am late, got in bed and got woken up a couple hours in by my dog's whimpers, and I woke up to the *whole literal floor* of my room covered in watery shit. Getting up while still half asleep, cleaning everything, giving the dog a bath, comforting the dog, calling the emergency vet for guidance, trying to sleep a bit more... And then getting up for work again. That was some rough night. You also have the late night walks before bed, the vet visits, the training, and then one day they get older and sick and die, and it's the most painful thing I've ever felt. Now, I'm the kind of person cut for this, I've always had pets in my family, and I'm glad to do what needs to be done. But it is not for everyone, and not even in every life stage. It's not right for me at this moment with a 15 month old kid.
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you mentioned the dog shit, and you mentioned eating "dodgy" stuff, but you left out the part where those two things are combined. dogs will eat literal shit when they find it. they will eat it AND roll around in it. i hope you enjoy cleaning mystery shit out of their their teeth and fur. rabbit shit, deer shit, other dogs' shit, their own shit, dirty diapers and wipes if there is a baby in the house, and by far the worst of all, CAT SHIT. and no, it has nothing to do with nutrient deficiency. our vet prescribed specific food to prevent this nasty habit, but it makes no difference. dogs' brains are literally broken and they will eat shit if they find it. the only solution is constant vigilance. you have to see the shit before they do.
I love my dog but he came with fleas and the flea treatment the rescue organisation used, then the type we used, didn’t work on him. Meanwhile our whole house was infested and we were going overseas so we set off a flea bomb. Absolutely ruined my health (followed the instructions carefully) for several years and cost us a fortune in healthcare, replacing carpets and furniture and belongings. Still have the dog 10 years later, have a good preventative that works for him but oh my goodness do I regret ever adopting him.
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Lord almighty have I learned this the hard way. My bulldog just cannot for the life of her master potty training. We got her when she was 4, and in her past life she was a breeding mother kept in a crate 24/7/365. No outside potty, no outside anything. She peed and pooped in the crate, laid in it, slept and ate in the crate, and from time to time they’d hose out the crate. Awful. When she came home, outside was new to her, and the first time she did a zoomie, she stunned herself. We first tried the standard crate training approach. That was obviously dumb because she thought it was a porta potty. She’d go in there, poop, come back out. She had absolutely no qualms whatsoever about “soiling her den” or laying in her own waste. We tried taking her out frequently, like every hour. We gave her treats and praise when she went outside. That worked ok, she’d gladly go outside when we took her outside. But no part of her brain thought that if she had to go she should tell us or wait, so she’d go outside, come back in, pee on the rug 20 minutes later, and go back to snoozing. Finally, we trained her to use a real grass pad inside. We did that instead of wee wee pads so she could understand that grass is good and rug-like things are bad. She actually got pretty good at it. It wasn’t ideal, but no worse than a litter box, and for years she was pretty good with it. Over the last year, she’s untrained herself. She still uses the grass pad about half the time, and still goes outside when we take her outside, but then just goes where she wants the rest of the time. We keep trying but at this point are just resigned to the fact that she’s not a deep thinker, not an easily trainable breed, and unfortunately her first 4 years just can’t be undone. We invest most of our energy in cleaning 😅
I love my dog but he came with fleas and the flea treatment the rescue organisation used, then the type we used, didn’t work on him. Meanwhile our whole house was infested and we were going overseas so we set off a flea bomb. Absolutely ruined my health (followed the instructions carefully) for several years and cost us a fortune in healthcare, replacing carpets and furniture and belongings. Still have the dog 10 years later, have a good preventative that works for him but oh my goodness do I regret ever adopting him.
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Yorkies are notoriously difficult to potty train. Mine are trained to go outside or the garage. We have a doggie door that they come and go leading to the safety of the garage. There are pee pads there that they use. They mostly prefer the outside though. They use the garage for convenience and bad weather. They are reliable for the most part. The older one (1 1/2 yr ) has accidents…er “retaliation “ on occasion. I’ve been told many times that Yorkies have a tendency to regress. They say that it usually clicks by two years old. 🤞
Yo tengo una chihuahua ya de 11 años y aveces se me orina en la cocina y la sala, si quiero irme de viaje tengo que ver con quien dejarla y hace poco tenía tos y la tuve que llevar al veterinario
I love my dog so much He's an idiot tho He doesn't know where to use the potty outside. In the grass. Like a normal dog. If it's wet grass? He won't go. If it's raining? Won't go. Grass needs cutting? He won't go. I have to drag his ass onto the grass regardless of what's going on out there because he just can't bring himself to do it. If left unattended, he pisses and shits right in the driveway pavement. This enrages me to no end. If it's hot out, my entire back yard smells like hot dog piss or shit. I'm so fucking over it lol he is helpless. I won't be getting pets ever again once all mine have lived their lives. I'm so sick of the bullshit haha
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Sensory overload: the licking, the drool and the noise at onceRecords where no single thing is the problem — several commenters name a sensory or neurodivergence reason it adds up.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Sensory overload: the licking, the drool and the noise at once
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Sensory overload: the licking, the drool and the noise at once
Situation: A dog that is not doing anything wrong and is still unbearable to be in a room with
Why readers chose it: 28 records where no single item is the complaint. Commenters list the licking, the drool, the panting in the face, the nails on the floor, the barking and the fur as arriving together, and several name a reason it compounds for them specifically: sensory sensitivity, a neurodivergence diagnosis that arrived after the dog, or a household already at capacity with small children. One commenter describes it as a super-smeller problem; another counts it among the reasons they cried that day. The recurring detail is that none of them discovered it by visiting a dog — it took living with one full time.
What readers reported: Also the slobber / drooling, needing to walk them in shitty weather, the fur everywhere, the barking, can’t leave them alone in the house for long because of bathroom needs, etc. Dogs are a sensory overload for me.
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I always liked having a dog until I had children. Having a dog is like having a toddler without any of the joy of watching it learn and grow. It just stays entirely dependent on you forever. No thanks.
This is all 100% spot on. Also, nobody can ring my doorbell or walk by my house without forcing my idiot Labrador into a nuclear barking fit. Dogs fucking suck
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Ya I agree. I’ve had a dog pretty much my entire life and never felt it was too inconvenient until now. It’s just not for me anymore. I won’t be getting another dog ever again. They are messy, smelly, loud, extremely overstimulating, and require a lot of responsibility. It’s probably because I currently have 3 kids so I have a lot of all those things already and I’ve basically reached capacity at this point. It’s a hard no from me, from now on.
I’m unfortunately with you there. I love my dogs, but I also hate a lot of things about having dogs. I didn’t realize I was neurodivergent until some time after I got dogs, so I didn’t know just how bad my anhedonia and executive dysfunction could be on a daily basis. Or how many sensory issues I have. Or how complaints from neighbors could threaten my housing situation. And a lot of other things. I love them so much, they’re so goofy and unique. But I probably wouldn’t have more after they’re gone.
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Ya I agree. I’ve had a dog pretty much my entire life and never felt it was too inconvenient until now. It’s just not for me anymore. I won’t be getting another dog ever again. They are messy, smelly, loud, extremely overstimulating, and require a lot of responsibility. It’s probably because I currently have 3 kids so I have a lot of all those things already and I’ve basically reached capacity at this point. It’s a hard no from me, from now on.
Jumping up, barking, whining, licking - Throw sensory sensitivity on that list, and dogs are a complete nightmare. And yes I'm made to feel bad about not wanting a dog.....
I like dogs but, for these same reasons, I never want to own a dog again. Plus, the loud nonstop licking of the midsection. No thank you. I do like being friends with dogs though…
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The noiseThe only burden here that lands hardest on people who never chose to have a dog. 39 records.
Barking, inside your own houseWhat the noise does to a household, and the collars, drugs and devices people tried against it.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Barking, inside your own house
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Barking, inside your own house
Situation: A dog that reacts audibly to everything that happens outside
Why readers chose it: 25 records about noise inside the owner's own home. The trigger set is consistent: the doorbell, a passer-by, a leaf, another dog outside, the owner coming through the door. The interventions named are vibration, shock and citronella collars — reported by the same commenter as having failed in sequence — and trazodone, also reported as not working. Corgis, chihuahuas, huskies, Jack Russells and labradors are named most often, and one household says the noise is close to ending a marriage. The counter-argument inside the card is that breed explains part of it and training explains the rest, which the commenter who tried four collars is not persuaded by.
What readers reported: This is all 100% spot on. Also, nobody can ring my doorbell or walk by my house without forcing my idiot Labrador into a nuclear barking fit. Dogs fucking suck
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I have a lab beagle. Loud AF. doesn't listen. Loveable. On trazadone. Doesn't work. Hyperactive. High alert all the time, no reason for it. Steals kleenex (clean and dirty) loves codding the cats.
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I have a lab beagle. Loud AF. doesn't listen. Loveable. On trazadone. Doesn't work. Hyperactive. High alert all the time, no reason for it. Steals kleenex (clean and dirty) loves codding the cats.
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No words can describe just how correct you are. I have a friend with a Corgi. I'm 💯 an animal lover (my dog sleeps in my bed) and I have never wanted to kill something as much as that fucking dog. It NEVER listens. Won't come. You have to get 3 people to corral it when it's time for her to leave. It barks at everything. You can't sweep, mop, water anything with a hose, mow the yard.... It's fucking psycho. To be honest, the dog is such a fucking shit show that I don't even think the breed is cute anymore.
okay thank you because not to sound like a bad person (and I love my dog), cats purr have healing frequencies but I don’t think my dog consistent freaking barking does anything
We have a Jack Russell and he's a nightmare 90% of the time. Just barks at EVERYTHING.
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The neighbour's dog you cannot get away fromThe one burden in this article that falls on people who never chose to have a dog.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: The neighbour's dog you cannot get away from
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The neighbour's dog you cannot get away from
Situation: Living next to, or working beside, somebody else's dog
Why readers chose it: 14 records from people on the receiving end. The reports are specific: a dog barking at a sliding door at half past seven every morning, a dog howling all day in a flat while its owner works, a dog brought into a workshop that barks all day and steals tools while the boss finds it funny. One commenter describes building a 110-decibel ultrasonic deterrent; another reports that their own dog became reactive from listening to the neighbour's cry through the wall. This is the only burden in the article that falls entirely on people who did not choose a dog, and several of these commenters say it is exactly why they never will.
What readers reported: Sucks living near them, too. Barking is a sound specifically designed to get your full attention. It's sharp and abrupt and LOUD. And the fucking creatures that do it *never tire of it*. You need really good insulation and soundproofing in your home, or nothing between your ears, to be able to block that shit out. People get dogs without thinking, as though it's the default thing to do as soon as you've got your own place. Tick it off the list. They were helpers when we hunted or were hunted. Now half have them have been selectively bred into madness for people's aesthetic preferences, and 90% can't seem to get the idea of having less territory than "everything within eye or earshot", so BARK BARK BARK it is. Useless as alarms because they are indiscriminate. Get a couple if you live in a farm. Not if you've got a back yard you can throw a stone across. Don't get one if you're not going to give or keep it company. They are social animals, leaving them on their own is very unkind and selfish.
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My neighbohour have a dog that does not stop barking. I am building a 110db ultrassonico dog deterrent on the range of 20khz to 30khz. It will calm it.
Living in an apt.complex where there are so many small dogs that aggressively-YAP sucks.
Yes I love dogs but would never own one! The dogs in my street bark at the slightest noise, one woman has two and the howl all day long, it’s so annoying and must be for the people living with a dog then there’s the responsibility of training them so you can go out without them biting or jumping up to people. These days most dog owners don’t care and take their dog absolutely everywhere and expect everyone to be ok with that. Not all just some and gives dog owners a bad name
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When the dog becomes unmanageableWhere the thread stops being about inconvenience: the incident that changes a dog, and everything that gets harder afterwards. 225 records.
One attack, and a reactive dog for the rest of its lifeThe most-upvoted comment in the corpus, and dozens of replies that answer it with the same story.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: One attack, and a reactive dog for the rest of its life
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One attack, and a reactive dog for the rest of its life
Situation: A well-socialised dog is attacked once and is never the same afterwards
Why readers chose it: 79 records, built on the most-upvoted comment in the corpus, and the striking thing is how uniform they are. The pattern repeats almost word for word: a well-socialised dog, months of deliberate work and in several cases thousands of dollars of it, one incident with an off-leash dog, and a permanent change. Several point out the dog does not have to be injured — a puppy frightened by a larger one, a dog trampled at a dog park, a dog chased by a loose one. Two describe dogs killed outright. A minority report the same outcome from causes nobody could have prevented: a car exhaust, a lightning strike, a house fire, a toddler who hit the dog while nobody was watching. The limit the card keeps naming is that the owner's own effort did not protect them from it.
What readers reported: The hardest part of dog ownership is that even if you do everything right, some other jerk can let their aggressive dog attack your leashed dog and now you have a reactive dog that can barely be in public and will never trust another dog again.
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My dog got in some scuffles, as a puppy, and was brutally attacked by the neighbors shitty dog, which started our nightmare. I mean I love our dog, but we can't have people over. He doesn't accept new people in the house. Any time we want to have work done on the house, we have to board him. i shell out 200+ bucks a month for doggy daycare because he's effectively unwalkable. A 90 lb mountain of a black lab that is all muscle. My wife can't take him anywhere ever. I'm a 200lb man and he will pull so hard that he's difficult for me to control. He'll pull so hard he chokes himself out. I spent weeks trying to get him used to one of those no pull harnesses that slips over his snout. Weeks of zero progress. It makes no difference. I've dumped tons of time and money into training him. He's just not trainable for things he's reactive towards. He can sit, lay down, stay, shake, run to his crate, all kinds of stuff. That's not a problem. The problem is that if he hears a noise or sees movement he goes fucking bananas and it all goes out the window. My inlaws have a beautiful rustic cabin where any normal dog could go off leash and have a blast, instead we have to board him before we go. He's not dangerous as far as I can tell, (and the vet agrees). He's never mouthed or bitten or acted aggressive. You can rummage around in his food bowl and he won't growl. In fact he's never growled at anyone, or displayed what are considered dangerous or aggressive behaviors. It's just wildly reactive and unhinged behavior. We have him medicated, but any higher of a dosage just zonks him to the point that he isn't really living, and the dosage he's on is like wearing rain boots before getting sprayed by a firehose. I'm not going to put him down for being inconvenient, but he's like 8 now and I feel guilty that I'm kind of looking forward to not having him anymore. I'll be crushed, but I'd love to have a buddy over now and then. My kid is 5 and wants to have friends over, and it just isn't possible. If you visit for hours a day for a week straight he'll accept you (slightly faster for women), but that's it. I cannot express how much stress this dog brings into my life.
I had a American Rottweiler like that. Garunteed to lose its shit if and when he saw another dog. I started calling him "on site", bc he'd try to maul any dig within eye sight. One time h literary jumped out of the back of my 90' ford bronco WITH THE TOP OFF, to chase a dog that was being walked. We were driving 35MPH!! He broke the chain that harnessed him to the fold up rear seat mount.... Some dogs just dgaf, but that was in the 90's and we never heard of prozac, let a lone drugs for dogs .....
Same here. My dog also was horribly wounded. I eventually had to euthanize her as she eventually would go after people. Damn Pitt ruined her life.
This is what happened to one of our dogs. He was attacked multiple times as a puppy, so now he has full on trauma responses around black dogs and boy dogs. No one is allowed to bring their dog to our house for events unless it’s a pre approved girl dog we know will get along. He’s 9, so this has been the reality of his whole life. It sucks. He’s such a good boy that got ruined by other dogs.
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I fucking hate my dog now that I’ve had a baby. Her fur, saliva, her stink! I hate it all. I don’t allow her near the baby because of it. Also she got attacked by an unleashed pitbull and her back was destroyed so she had the nastiest looking scars on her back that we can’t clean until they fall off. No more pets in this house.
this happened to me, multiple times cause i had a st bernard. so the other owners thought cause he was bigger, it was fine. id yell at them and tell em ima let him attack their dog to see if its as funny. unfortunately this happened like 3 or 4 times, he became reactive towards other dogs. still took him out for walks, just had to adjust. but to make him happy, i dealt with it.
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The hardest part of dog ownership is that even if you do everything right, some other jerk can let their aggressive dog attack your leashed dog and now you have a reactive dog that can barely be in public and will never trust another dog again.
This happened with one of my dogs. He wasn’t even walkable after. He would freak out any time he saw another dog. It was so sad.
Same thing happened with my pup and life has been so much harder ever since. I’m so sorry for any dog and owner(s) who’ve had to endure this because the anxiety on every single outing is so real. Iykyk. 😭😢
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What living with a reactive dog costs afterwardsThe part the attack stories only gesture at: 4am walks, boarding refusals, muzzles, trainer bills and no visitors.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: What living with a reactive dog costs afterwards
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What living with a reactive dog costs afterwards
Situation: Running a normal life around a dog that cannot be near other dogs
Why readers chose it: 27 records about the years after the incident, which is where the cost actually lands. Commenters describe boarding refusals and the premium for solo care — one quotes $45 a day rising to $75–$120 — walks moved to 11pm, 3:30am or 4am, a muzzle and a double leash, a vest labelling the dog as dog-aggressive, and $200 a month of daycare for a dog that cannot be walked at all. Two report the dog was a working service animal that can no longer work. The social cost recurs as often as the money: no visitors, no dog parks, dating complicated, and strangers assuming the owner simply failed to train it.
What readers reported: My sweet 3 year old dog, was attacked by an unleashed Rottweiler. He has never been the same dog. He’s reactive and I can’t find people who can watch him. A house with no dog that like watching your dog — are like a unicorn and charge a bomb. Paying $45/day to boarding, I am looking at $75-120/day. It’s annoying. Even after we have worked with trainer for 14 weeks, he’s less reactive on leash. But he said never leave him with another dog. He has a fight or flight response!
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My dog got in some scuffles, as a puppy, and was brutally attacked by the neighbors shitty dog, which started our nightmare. I mean I love our dog, but we can't have people over. He doesn't accept new people in the house. Any time we want to have work done on the house, we have to board him. i shell out 200+ bucks a month for doggy daycare because he's effectively unwalkable. A 90 lb mountain of a black lab that is all muscle. My wife can't take him anywhere ever. I'm a 200lb man and he will pull so hard that he's difficult for me to control. He'll pull so hard he chokes himself out. I spent weeks trying to get him used to one of those no pull harnesses that slips over his snout. Weeks of zero progress. It makes no difference. I've dumped tons of time and money into training him. He's just not trainable for things he's reactive towards. He can sit, lay down, stay, shake, run to his crate, all kinds of stuff. That's not a problem. The problem is that if he hears a noise or sees movement he goes fucking bananas and it all goes out the window. My inlaws have a beautiful rustic cabin where any normal dog could go off leash and have a blast, instead we have to board him before we go. He's not dangerous as far as I can tell, (and the vet agrees). He's never mouthed or bitten or acted aggressive. You can rummage around in his food bowl and he won't growl. In fact he's never growled at anyone, or displayed what are considered dangerous or aggressive behaviors. It's just wildly reactive and unhinged behavior. We have him medicated, but any higher of a dosage just zonks him to the point that he isn't really living, and the dosage he's on is like wearing rain boots before getting sprayed by a firehose. I'm not going to put him down for being inconvenient, but he's like 8 now and I feel guilty that I'm kind of looking forward to not having him anymore. I'll be crushed, but I'd love to have a buddy over now and then. My kid is 5 and wants to have friends over, and it just isn't possible. If you visit for hours a day for a week straight he'll accept you (slightly faster for women), but that's it. I cannot express how much stress this dog brings into my life.
My last rescue was attacked by a dog before we got him. Sweet as pie and then just would see red when another dog approached. Broke my heart. We had a vest that said “dog-aggressive” because people would not take his body language for what it was. Our current girl is skittish around people and we always have to manage the pets because she is so soft/people want to touch her hair (both are/were afghans)
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This is what happened with my dog and it has made life so hard for me and my poor pup. She still gets along with my other dog, but if we’re outside and she sees a strange dog, her instinct is now to take out her anxiety on my other dog. Also traveling is a logistical nightmare. I can’t board them because she’s a reactive dog, and to get a dog sitter it has to be one I trust to handle her behaviors but also someone I trust to stay in my house.
This… currently have my first dog, got attacked two years ago, never the same again. 4am long walks just to get a relaxing walk. Always fearing what’s behind the next corner. People yelling awful things at you. Every. single day.
Yes. I inherited my mother's beloved pooch when she died very suddenly. Cost an absolute fortune to fly transatlantic. It's hard. He can't be left with anyone as he hates people due to anxiety. He must walk hours and hours a day, regardless of rain or heat. No one can walk him but me as he has a bite history and I can't trust anyone else. Everything gives him anxiety from the slightest weather changes to a shadow. He's 13 and is fit and well and will live to 20 just to spite me. 😂 He is loved and adored and has the best life he can with his mental health issues. I will never own another dog. Even babies aren't this difficult.
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Off-leash dogs, and the owners who will not recall themThe other half of the reactive-dog problem, and the deterrents people started carrying because of it.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Off-leash dogs, and the owners who will not recall them
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Off-leash dogs, and the owners who will not recall them
Situation: Walking a leashed dog past somebody else's loose one
Why readers chose it: 45 records, and this is the corpus's clearest case of one owner's choice becoming another owner's permanent problem. The reported phrase is always the same — that the loose dog is friendly — answered here by owners whose dogs are not. Several describe reporting incidents to police or animal control and being told nothing could be done, including one who was advised simply not to walk the dog. What follows is escalation: a collapsible baton, pepper gel, bear spray, a can of compressed air, kicking. A minority argue that small-dog owners who scoop their dog up are part of the problem, and are answered in the same card that they do it because their dog keeps being attacked.
What readers reported: As a dog owner the thing that makes me irate is the amount of people that think letting their dog off leash in public is okay. I had to just leave a park cause a guy let his dog off leash and it just ran off into the trail portion of the park and he had to chase it down over 400 yards.
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I hate it so much. My husband and I carry pepper gel in the bag we take to walk the dog. I would do anything to prevent my dog from getting attacked. We have a baby now and we either all take a walk or only the dog goes. I don’t think I could keep everyone safe if I had both out on my own. My dog is also extremely leash reactive, but it’s barrier frustration. He just wants to greet the other dog. We’ve worked on it a lot with a behaviorist, but people don’t realize how dangerous it is to let their dog off leash. My dog will sometimes redirect his frustration back at the person holding his leash if he can’t get to the other dog and they get too close. He’s never broken skin, but he’s bitten me and my husband in these situations. He’s a good dog and we do our best to give him space. We walk him in open areas, we avoid crowds, we walk at off times, we have strategies. I have yelled at people to leash their dog all over (trails, parks, in the neighborhood). I know I sound annoying, but I’m just trying to protect my dog. Gonna suck if their dog gets sprayed for coming at us.
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It’s so common where I live. I hate it.
Those stupid extendable leashes or long leashes drive me nuts. They are good training tools in the right hands. Unfortunately most people don't bother learning how to use them properly and the dog ends up being as bad as an off leash dog. There was an incident down at my local park where someone's on a long leash dog got into a water way and attacked a mother duck. The council couldn't do anything because technically the owner had their stupid mutt on leash.
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As a dog owner the thing that makes me irate is the amount of people that think letting their dog off leash in public is okay. I had to just leave a park cause a guy let his dog off leash and it just ran off into the trail portion of the park and he had to chase it down over 400 yards.
Which is why i cant walk my dog in my neighborhood. They never heard of a thing called a LEASH. Fortunately i have large fenced in yard for running. I have to go to a large arboretum to walk. There are some ah dog owners out there. I live in a very nice neighborhood too.
people live different places. is it legal to have your dog off leash in public spaces? if so have atter' i guess, but even the trails and fields near me if its not private, the law applies. last time we got run up on it was on a trail by a stream my dog was fuddling around in.
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Separation anxiety, and the dog that cannot be leftDogs that hurt themselves or the house when alone, and what that does to their owner's working day.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Separation anxiety, and the dog that cannot be left
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Separation anxiety, and the dog that cannot be left
Situation: A dog that hurts itself or the house the moment it is alone
Why readers chose it: 24 records about a dog that cannot be left. The damage is specific: three metal kennels eaten through, a dog that cut itself and tore out a tooth escaping a crate, a dog that impaled its own thigh breaking out, parts of a house destroyed. Several commenters date the problem to the pandemic and to working from home, and one names a different mechanism — a relative's own storm panic transferring to the dog. The interventions named are daily anxiety medication and a stronger crate, one of which cost $1,500. The correction the card supplies twice, unprompted, is that getting a second dog does not fix it.
What readers reported: 10,000,000,000% agree. My first dog was genuinely the best dog on the planet, granted I was young and my parents did most of the work. 2nd dog had some quirks but still pretty great, and we got him when I was a teen so I knew a little better. 3rd dog, MY DOG, owned by my wife and I? Domestic terrorist. She has eaten through THREE METAL KENNELS in attempts to find us when we leave for work, she runs every time she moves, never walks or moves calmly. I cannot for the life of me get her to behave consistently in any sense of the word. One day she’ll seem receptive to commands and routine, and then the next day she tries to pull some new age psych 101 shit with me like she watched some tiktok on how to trick your human into doing what you want. It’s baffling.
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I had the best dog and the worst dog at the same time. My retired racing greyhound was the goodest girl. Like most grays, she slept a lot. She was quiet, well behaved, enjoyed affection but wasn't clingy. The pitty mix was super sweet but you could not leave him alone for a minute. His separation anxiety was so bad he nearly killed himself busting out of a crate. Leaving him wth the grey helped, but more often than not we would come home to a destroyed house. This dog literally ruined dogs for me. A good dog is great, but a bad dog is just devastating. I don't even want to take the risk anymore.
I have an Australian shepherd I got when I got out of the military I love him but I’ll never buy a dog again. I’ve been a dog person my whole life, but he has extreme anxiety can’t be left home alone without destroying something, I tried to kennel train him but obviously failed now when we tried to kennel him he broke out and impaled his inner thigh and snapped a tooth. I live in Florida it storms everyday he acts like it’s Vietnam. He squirms is the tightest spots to seek shelter breaking everything in his path. For some reason he’s been jumping on the kitchen counters to hide under the cabinets? I don’t even understand that but he knocked everything off the shelf broke what ever fell. We can never go on vacation because he can’t be boarded. We have to pay friends to SLEEP at our house. He has seizures about once or twice a month even though he’s medicated. He follows me everywhere I can’t get a damn break always tripping over him because he’s in my legs. He whines and cries all the time I think it’s just how he talks but holy crap is it annoying I love the little guy but I will never buy another dog in my life. He also cannot stand my 5yr old daughter won’t even look at her most of the time. She’s getting older and playing a lot more with him, but if she doesn’t have a tennis ball he has no care in the world for her probably because I got him when I was single and he feels replaced. He’s super friendly he’d never hurt anyone but he’s a screamer and a jumper. He doesn’t bark he just screams although he wil bark on command
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I too have always had cats, and never intended or planned to be a dog owner....then my Gram passed, and her 7 year old (5lb) long haired chihuahua was already kinda attached to me since he would stay with me when she was in and out of the hospital. So naturally I took him in. Well. I have never experienced such anxiety in my life. First, my bigger cat attacked him one day resulting in ER Vet (I am still traumatized, I had his blood all over me) but he is a-ok now, except I am not. And then kind of soon after, an off leash dog attacked and killed a chihuahua in my town (he posted on reddit and was completely shattered by losing his buddy and witnessing it!) So when I take him out to go to the bathroom, I am looking in EVERY direction ALL the time to make sure there are no dogs around, and if one is coming, I pick him up and run inside. I HATE IT because I would love to take him on long walks. My partner takes him on walks- I take him out to do his business and then when my anxiety takes over, we head in. It's a lot.
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Whatever you do. DONT GET A SECOND ONE TO KEEP YHE FIRST COMPANY!!!!!
Dogs can be incredibly neurotic and it’s gotten worse since Covid. You used to be a wolf and now you’re shivering because you saw a leaf blow in the wind come ON!
We have a Bernedoodle who is half Bernese and half poodle and we really got the best of both worlds lol he’s almost 2 years old now He doesn’t have separation anxiety so much as FOMO. He’s happy with other people or dogs but gets super anxious/bored when left home alone. He used to follow us EVERYWHERE around the house but now it’s more if he thinks he’s going for a walk/getting a treat or if he’s bored. We live in an apartment so walks mean potty breaks too. He’s cuddly for sure to an extent and only for so long. If he really wants to sleep or whatever, then he goes and lays by himself somewhere spread eagle on his back lol but hes still very affectionate and loves scratches. He’s chilled out a lot as he’s gotten older too, and does climb onto our bed in the mornings now to sleep next to us. He’s the goofiest, best boy and we love him so much
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Bites, and the dogs that were put down for themThe records where somebody was actually hurt, including several that ended in a dog being euthanised.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Bites, and the dogs that were put down for them
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Bites, and the dogs that were put down for them
Situation: When the behaviour stops being a nuisance and starts being a danger
Why readers chose it: 25 records where somebody or some animal was actually hurt, and they fall into three groups: dogs that attacked and in two cases killed another dog, dogs that bit a person and were euthanised for it, and dogs the owner eventually put down after aggression they could not train out. Several describe incidents that produced no consequence at all — a citation, or nothing. The card is also where the two ends of the thread meet: the commenter who calls his dog the best he ever had and says in the same breath that he would never have trusted anyone alone with him.
What readers reported: My little dog was mauled to death in front of me by an unleashed dog on the beach. It was pretty traumatic and deeply affected my other dog who witnessed it for the rest of her life.
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I'm really sorry to hear that. I hope that you're doing ok. Humans should never be in danger from someone's dog. This dog was horribly abused by its owner. I called and reported animal abuse for the man picking up the dog and literally throwing it in to the car against the opposite interior car wall. They never did anything anytime. One day it will be a human it attacks.
I had a American Rottweiler like that. Garunteed to lose its shit if and when he saw another dog. I started calling him "on site", bc he'd try to maul any dig within eye sight. One time h literary jumped out of the back of my 90' ford bronco WITH THE TOP OFF, to chase a dog that was being walked. We were driving 35MPH!! He broke the chain that harnessed him to the fold up rear seat mount.... Some dogs just dgaf, but that was in the 90's and we never heard of prozac, let a lone drugs for dogs .....
Same here. My dog also was horribly wounded. I eventually had to euthanize her as she eventually would go after people. Damn Pitt ruined her life.
my poor yorkie got tossed around like ragdoll by a german shep that was off the leash, he ended up with a horrible infection that ended up killing him. broke my heart to the point that i don't think i can have another dog again.
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Wow you get dog shit on your shoe, poor you. GFs dog had severe anxiety, and was a Corso mix, so unfortunately in adulthood started to become aggressive. After years of training, boardings, nothing fixed him, he would get better for a bit, but inevitably something would trigger him again. He bit a few people, and after several years we knew he had to be put down. My GF lives with that decision to this day, and blames herself everyday. It drove her into a deep depression for a long time. Just thank your blessings you don't have actual behavioral issues with the dog.
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I used to have a very friendly Saint Bernard named Sebastian who only got aggressive when he saw me (or any of my other family members) get attacked by someone, or if he got attacked himself. But since that rarely happened he was very kind to everyone he saw. And at the time I also had a shitty ass neighbor who was a blonde 10-13 year old girl that thought that teasing him was hilarious. And one day, I saw my dog Sebastian come inside limping with a bloody leg. Turns out, this motherfucker THREW BIG ROCKS AT HIM cause she thought it was hilarious. Did she get punished? Well I don't know if her parents yelled at her or if she got grounded for a while, but after a month or two, she and her sister got their own puppies even after what she did. And because of her, my dog Sebastian became afraid of blonde teenage girls and HATED THEM so much he couldn't be around them anymore.
She is a wild dog and its crazy to see how the lab and great pyr traits mix together. She is a pretty great dog tho, just has her quirks, she occasionally get resource guarding and will bite anyone who gets close to what she is protecting. Thats instinctive tho and we have done a ton of work getting her to a point where she trust us with the stuff she is protecting (I can now go up to her and take away high value bones and etc without her even blinking). I am a oretty firm believer that pretty much anything can be trained out with enough time, effort, and care. She also is extremely loving and will jump up on you and try to lean all over you if she wants attention.
The number of people, including innocent children, killed or maimed by dogs will never be surpassed by the number of people helped by your Lord and savior doggy Jesus.
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Size and strength: the dogs their owners cannot physically holdInjuries at the human end of the leash, and the mismatch between dog and owner that produced them.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Size and strength: the dogs their owners cannot physically hold
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Size and strength: the dogs their owners cannot physically hold
Situation: A dog stronger than the person on the other end of the leash
Why readers chose it: 25 records about injuries at the human end. The harm reported is real: a hand broken by a leash wrapped around a palm, a nearly dislocated shoulder, a grandmother's broken hip, a knee put out of joint, an owner pulled into moving traffic. The mismatch commenters keep naming is a small or disabled person with a large dog, and one owner is inside the card arguing with the others about exactly that while describing muzzle-and-double-leash plans for a seventy-three pound six-month-old. The advice the card offers is the one thing everybody in it agrees on: buy for the adult size, not the puppy.
What readers reported: I saw a woman and her dog on a very tiny traffic island in the middle of an extremely busy main road. Another guy with a dog joined them, and her dog lost its shit, and pulled her into the traffic. Luckily she wasnt hit, but people should also consider a dogs adult size when they buy one, and if they can physically control it
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> they are fragile as fuck with zero self awareness Fragile depends on the dog. My saint Bernard broke a chain leash when we leashed her to our fence post to shower her. My uncle's pitbull broke through their window cause he saw a dog inside the house. And then there was my beagle who would climb the fence and make an 8 foot jump down to chase some squirrel. Zero self awareness is absolutely true, though.
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Unfortunately yes, my husband’s dog is 110lbs and he’s too strong for me to walk. My husband won’t walk him for some reason and prefers him to go in the backyard. I have a routine where I go out with him 3x daily. Follow him around the yard while he sniffs, pick up his poops, then we have a 15-20 min play session of fetch. I feel bad not being able to walk him but it’s the best I can do.
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People can never dream of other people not loving their dogs- but as somebody who had parents that never trained their dogs and often had big dogs growing up, its an absolute nightmare. They're loud, overstimulating, sometimes dangerous because they will knock you over or crash into you, and they require constant vigilance from getting into trouble. My parents dogs used to counter surf steal whole loaves of bread, and you could never leave a plate unattended even for a moment. I'm so glad to leave it behind for my chill cat.
I loathe dogs. They \*always\* jump on me, and, as I am tiny, mostly either knock me over or screw up my knees. I used to ride my bike in a rural area of Maine and have been attacked by dog packs more than once. Miserable beasts. Cats, on the other hand...
I love dogs but can understand that they’re not for everybody. They’re messy and the vet bills are exorbitant. Worth it to me but I totally get what you’re saying. My dog took my knee out of joint once because he spontaneously decided to just tackle me in play. He did not give one \*\*\*\* that I laid there writhing in pain, the big goofball.
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Health, old age and the endThe years nobody plans for, and the decision every one of these owners eventually reaches. 265 records.
Chronic illness: the stomach, the skin, the seizures and the special dietLong-running conditions and the diet experiments people ran against them, including the handful that worked.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Chronic illness: the stomach, the skin, the seizures and the special diet
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Chronic illness: the stomach, the skin, the seizures and the special diet
Situation: A condition that does not resolve, and the years of trying things against it
Why readers chose it: 96 records about conditions that do not go away. The commonest is the digestive one the original post described, and this card contains a full four-year search: kibble after kibble, supplements, tests, hydrolysed protein, prescription diets at $140 a bag, and a veterinary team that ran out of ideas. The others are skin and allergy — repeated antibiotic courses, a prescription low-fat diet after pancreatitis, a dog that licks itself raw — and seizures, including a golden retriever that died of epilepsy at five and dogs on daily anticonvulsants. Two remedies recur with reported results, psyllium husk and plain pumpkin. The argument running underneath the whole card is what to feed a dog, and it is not settled here.
What readers reported: Ehh, the food issue specifically can be hard to figure out so I wouldn't judge them for that. I've spent 4 years or so trying different types of kibble, supplements, tests, etc., and my dog just has recurring diarrhea. She's on prescription food right now because it's slightly better than the other kinds of food she's tried (including other types of prescription food), but it's not perfect. Her vets are stumped. Everything comes back normal. They've sent samples across the country, looked into "zebra" diagnoses, and just nothing. I do judge them a little for having a yard full of poop, though.
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>The higher the quality of food, the less poop That's absurd - think about a person pooping tiny pellets - are they eating better than someone with normal poo? It's not true for dogs, either. Also, most of those boutique diets do not testing and have no staff qualified to support their claims that their food is healthier. Look into WSAVA guidelines and which brands are compliant.
>A higher quality diet, such as a raw food diet There is no way a competent vet told you a raw food diet was healthier than a WSAVA compliant kibble. Nor is a dog behaviorist qualified to be giving you medical advice. Please dont spread harmful misinformation with questionable sources.
If you're a PhD scientist then I trust you to do research from a scientific perspective using evidence and reputable sources. I can't convince you, but I think you should probably look into this a LOT more and be careful where you get your information.
Yes owning a dog is hard work, (dog trainer). But you really could make it easier on yourself, change the food, it’s normal for a dog to poo max twice a day, the poo should be firm and not particularly smelly unless broken. Unless there are other underlying conditions, change with different feeding, grain free, raw, a certain protein like only lamb for instance, hydrolysed, etc, you could hire a dog nutrition specialist. As for the playing, there is training you can do, but for ease just put the dog on lead or shut away.
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Exactly!! I didn’t realize when I got mine (passed last year 😞 unfortunately) but I didn’t realize the other things that come with the responsibility like my dog had major stomach issues. The slightest thing would set his tummy off and he’d have diarrhea or throw up sometimes. Poor guy wanted to eat everything but his stomach didn’t allow it. I went under the naive assumption dogs had stomachs of steel and of course my dog ends up like me with a sensitive tummy 😂 plus he was an Aussie. SUPER fluffy dog … I’d have to wipe his ass more times than I can count. I miss him so much but god I don’t miss his diarrhea bouts.
If you're a PhD scientist then I trust you to do research from a scientific perspective using evidence and reputable sources. I can't convince you, but I think you should probably look into this a LOT more and be careful where you get your information.
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Opinion aside, please take your dog to the vet. They should not be having constant diarrhea. You're likely feeding it something they're allergic to or something they're sensitive to. Please change that poor dog's diet.
Funny cause it’s relatable but maybe change his food so he has more firm stools. No reason to walk around smelling like poop.
Uh…yeah…it is exactly the same 😂 Your entire comment is utterly invalid.
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The senior years, and the care nobody warns you aboutThe phase that repeatedly turns devoted owners into exhausted ones, described in detail by people currently in it.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: The senior years, and the care nobody warns you about
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The senior years, and the care nobody warns you about
Situation: Caring for a dog that can no longer manage stairs, continence or a whole night
Why readers chose it: 62 records written mostly by exhausted people who are still doing it. The care described is concrete: carrying a 130-pound dog outside in a harness, a ramp built for a dog that could no longer manage steps, nappies, belly bands, incontinence, middle-of-the-night wake ups, hand-cooked food and several daily medications. More than one commenter says a senior dog and a newborn at the same time was the hardest year of their life. The emotion the card keeps naming is guilt — for being exhausted, and for wanting it to end — and a number of replies in it exist for no purpose except to tell those commenters the feeling is normal.
What readers reported: I needed to read this thread. I have a 15 year old hound that I love, who is "in great shape for her age"... But God the animal drives our life. Middle of the night wake ups, age related accidents, more anxiety. She was only ever the best; I owe her good elder care. But there is a part of me that feels exhausted by it all. I feel guilt for feeling that way.
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I had a german shepherd once. He lived 11 years. Loved him to bits but his last two years of life were a nightmare. He not only got dementia, but would also develop fistulas on his bum, which would make him shit all over the house. Liquid shit, mind you. And then, while I was trying to clean it, he would forget who I was and turn on me out of the blue. Again, loved him to bits and my heart was broken when he died. Cried for days. If I can be honest… some of that crying was relief.
Yessss - within the last couple of years, I’ve had 3/4 of my elderly pets pass away (2 cats and 1 dog). Dog was 14, lab mix, and had epilepsy, kidney disease, hypothyroidism, just a whole host of issues. Eventually had to be put down when the kidney disease progressed to stage 4 and medication/prescription food didn’t help anymore. Great dog though. My cats passed at 15 and 17 - 15-year-old got stomach cancer and dropped weight rapidly but before then had a horrible urinary problems that vet visits could never fix. I changed litter boxes, locations, food, everything and that little fucker still ruined couches, drywall from marking them, etc. My 17-year-old cat passed away due to cancer as well and required prescription food and had tons of problems related to pooping - she refused the box so I had to eventually replace the carpet in my bedroom and closet and put puppy pads down all of the time. And her poop was this horrible diarrhea, ugh. My final cat is 14 and has chronic kidney disease and is on prescription food and is otherwise doing fine. Some tummy troubles here that lead to vomiting or constipation but changing his food to Royal Canin has helped. Just so expensive. Definitely the worst and most expensive stage after this kitty passes, no more pets. I’ve got a 3.5 year old and looking to have another kid soon, I don’t have it in me, sorry kids lol
Same! Ours are 13 and 14 and it’s exhausting how many meds and special needs they have. I love them so much but man, never again.
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At least she was a small Newf at 130 lbs. My last Newfie was 165 lbs when he started having hip problems and we had to help him in and out. Un/fortunately he went on his own 6 months after his brother, only a few months into having to carry him outside. His brother on the other hand had years of treatment in his senior years. Between nystagmus, testicular cancer (because my parents didn't spay them), a paralyzed larynx, and the eventual pneumonia from the paralyzed larynx, he cost nearly $10,000 in his senior years. Now, my dad is going through it again. His 8 year old Newf is 190 lbs with ligament problems in both of his hind legs. I have to drive an hour out to his house to help him get him in the car to get him to the vet more and more frequently. I don't see him being around much longer unfortunately.
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My pup is 18 and I don't think I have it in me for another. It's so draining when they get old.
My 14 year old dog lost eyesight in one eye, has terrible hearing, and non-cancerous lumps but they affect her walking. Not much can fix these problems even with a lot of money. I feel so bad for her but she has a great life - my husband and I pick her up to put on the bed, she has a dog brother and sister, eats good, etc. It's such a weird situation 😭. And I wonder what other aches/pains she has that she can't voice.
Oh and op. This has been going on since he was 12… so. It’s not just a recent thing. This could happen to you and your family for multiple years in a row….. GOODLUCK!
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Dementia in an old dogA condition several of these owners say they had never heard of until their own dog had it.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Dementia in an old dog
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Dementia in an old dog
Situation: An old dog that stops recognising the house, and then you
Why readers chose it: 16 records about a diagnosis several of these owners say they had never heard of. The progression they describe is consistent: mild confusion, then pacing and hiding, then fear after dark, then not recognising the owner — one dog bit its owner's face after forgetting who she was. Two commenters report that their own vet did not identify it and that a neighbour whose dog had it did. The only management named is sedation: trazodone and gabapentin in the early evening, which one owner says is the only thing that holds it. The card ends where the euthanasia card begins, and in one case in a country where the commenter says euthanasia was not offered at all.
What readers reported: It’s very exhausting! My dog got dementia the last year and a half of her life. It was really difficult dealing with her being so paranoid, and stressed out all the time from it. It’s a lot!
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I had a german shepherd once. He lived 11 years. Loved him to bits but his last two years of life were a nightmare. He not only got dementia, but would also develop fistulas on his bum, which would make him shit all over the house. Liquid shit, mind you. And then, while I was trying to clean it, he would forget who I was and turn on me out of the blue. Again, loved him to bits and my heart was broken when he died. Cried for days. If I can be honest… some of that crying was relief.
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It’s very exhausting! My dog got dementia the last year and a half of her life. It was really difficult dealing with her being so paranoid, and stressed out all the time from it. It’s a lot!
Ah, man. That’s a bummer. You definitely did the right thing! Not that you need me to tell you that.. After watching one of my grandparents suffer with dementia, I fully believe in euthanasia for it. It’s a horrible disease.
I will never own another dog after watching mine get dementia and die slowly and confused because I live in a country where euthanasia is not an option (or so I was told by two vets). She was only allowed to stop living after her lungs filled with liquid.
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Deciding to let them go, and what came afterGrief, and the relief a number of these commenters admit to feeling alongside it.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Deciding to let them go, and what came after
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Deciding to let them go, and what came after
Situation: The last decision, and the months on the other side of it
Why readers chose it: 66 records about the ending. The grief is described without much qualification — a decade on and still crying, forgetting on waking that the dog is gone — but what makes the card unusual is how many commenters volunteer relief in the same breath, and how many replies exist only to tell them that is allowed. The mechanics appear too: a vet coming to the house, a decision made at four years old or at seventeen, a vet pushing for chemotherapy that the owner declined. The single most repeated sentiment in the whole corpus sits here — that the shortness of a dog's life is the actual worst part of owning one, and that everything else on this page is negotiable by comparison.
What readers reported: This. Mine made it 12 years, she had a good life and we loved her. Sometimes when I sleep I forget she's gone and my very first thought when I wake up in the morning is still her - that I have to get up and takr care of her, that she is counting on me - and then reality comes back in and I remember she's gone (and that she has been gone for years now). The grief never goes away. I still feel sad every time this happens. I miss her. Her sweetness and loyalty, her love. Her whole world centered on me. I do not think anything in this world has ever loved me in the way my dog loved me. It was beautiful gift that I'm not sure any person is even worthy of. She was in so many ways a beautiful gift. But I also feel relieved. Because I don't want to wake up and have my very first task of the day be to take a dog on a walk. Because her love was pure but it was also relentless in that she had to be with me every moment she possibly could and it is exhausting to be the sole most adored focal point of anything. And because all of it was a lot of work. And because watching her slow decline in her senior years was painful and horrible. I'll never get another dog but I'm so glad I went on the first go around with her. I wouldn't trade it for anything and if by some magic I could get her back there's probably very little I wouldn't do to accomplish that.
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Years of joy at the price of one of the worst days of your life.
One of? Bro, it's been a decade and I still cry about my previous dogs occassionally. This current little shit head is going to wreck me emotionally when she dies.
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You didn't even mention the worst part - They die and smash our hearts into pieces 💔
I know, I had to do the same with my baby of 12 yrs. It’s devastating. You never really get over it. I believe I’ll see her again tho 🩷
The worst part about owning a dog is no longer owning a dog.
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Bred into it: the health problems that came with the breedWhere the illness was designed in, argued over by owners, breeders and vets in the same sub-thread.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Bred into it: the health problems that came with the breed
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Bred into it: the health problems that came with the breed
Situation: Buying a breed and inheriting its medical history with it
Why readers chose it: 25 records where the problem sits upstream of the owner. The named examples are specific: corgis and dachshunds with spinal disease, including one corgi that lost the use of her back legs and her bladder control after weeks of crate rest and laser therapy; flat-faced breeds with breathing problems and, per one commenter, the highest vet bills of any breed; a liver shunt repaired in a small-breed puppy; a dog left incontinent after being spayed too young. The argument running through the card is about breeding practice rather than dogs — purebred versus well-bred, health testing, backyard breeders, kennel-club recognition, and whether doodles improve on either — but nobody in it disputes that some of this was designed in.
What readers reported: Plus corgis are prone to back issues. My husband got one in 2011 before we lived together and on at least two occasions she had to be crated for weeks and received laser therapy for her back. By the end, she could no longer use her back legs and couldn’t feel her bladder anymore. It was awful. I carried her outside for the bathroom and tried to hold her up, but she couldn’t control the bladder muscles to pee so she would end up just peeing where she laid in the house (fortunately she liked tile). Then she had to be cleaned up and the pee cleaned up. On top of it all that dog was rude and short tempered. She and I only got along for a couple of weeks after my heart dog died. Other than that she wanted nothing to do with me and really didn’t care for my husband either even though we are both dog people and did our best with her. She didn’t want to play, cuddle, walk, nothing. She was miserable all the time. Between her temperament and health issues I would never ever get another corgi or any long body dog.
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People confuse purebred and well-bred. AKC recognition isn’t a guarantee of anything, and most purebreds come from backyard breeders or puppy mills. A well-bred dog comes from an ethical breeder who prioritizes health and temperament above all. That means their breeding dogs have complete physical and genetic health testing and have been proven in working trials, sports, and/or conformation. They temperament test, match their puppies to the best homes, and provide a lifetime of support for all dogs they produce. Well-bred doodles, however, aren’t really a thing. I personally think it’s possible (some disagree) however I’ve only come across a handful of doodle breeders that I’d call ethical. 99% of them are BYBs focused on producing whatever coat colours sell for the most money. Temperament, heath, coat, size etc are all a grab bag due to the random mix of genetics.
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I agree that more doodles are backyard breeders. That said, there are breeders who do health tests and WALA/ALAA/etc are organizations that have some health requirements that provide some kind of baseline equivalent to what AKC provides for their breeds. Also, the overwhelming majority of folks trashing doodles on reddit are either buying purebreds from a backyard breeder or are rescued mutts. Rescuing dogs is fantastic, providing you can actually handle the wide range of behavioral issues that come with rescues. Unfortunately, the reality is far more complicated and for many the reason to rescue is just that it is low cost. These are the same folks who often get a dog with past trauma or poor temperament causing the same behaviors they are generalizing to doodles, except in a much more powerful dog. Edit: and again, the difference between Labradoodles (which have been around for decades) and random doodle mixes from a backyard breeder is very large. Labradoodles are somewhat consistent. First gen doodle mixes are extremely variant in characteristics/temperament
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People confuse purebred and well-bred. AKC recognition isn’t a guarantee of anything, and most purebreds come from backyard breeders or puppy mills. A well-bred dog comes from an ethical breeder who prioritizes health and temperament above all. That means their breeding dogs have complete physical and genetic health testing and have been proven in working trials, sports, and/or conformation. They temperament test, match their puppies to the best homes, and provide a lifetime of support for all dogs they produce. Well-bred doodles, however, aren’t really a thing. I personally think it’s possible (some disagree) however I’ve only come across a handful of doodle breeders that I’d call ethical. 99% of them are BYBs focused on producing whatever coat colours sell for the most money. Temperament, heath, coat, size etc are all a grab bag due to the random mix of genetics.
of course its arbitrary. "breeding true” isnt some natural objective state. kennel clubs decide when a mix is “stable enough”, what traits count, what the breed is "supposed" to look like, etc. etc. that is an arbitrary human decision filled with bias. u can literally see it with how different kennel clubs recognize the exact same breeds at different times sometimes even decades apart. look at the cavalier king charles spaniel... it was considered a purebred in the UK 50 years before the AKC decided it was. so the same dog can be a "real breed" in one country and a designer mix in another depending entirely on when a kennel club votes to recognize it.
This is false. My dog is a multigenerational Labradoodle with a documented lineage of breeding focused on health and temperament, the very definition of ethical breeding.
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The household, the housing and everyone elseThe dog is rarely one person's problem. It lands on a partner, a landlord, a toddler or a neighbour. 244 records.
Where you can live: apartments, yards and landlordsPet rent, refused applications, lifts, and the running argument about whether a large dog belongs in a flat.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Where you can live: apartments, yards and landlords
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Where you can live: apartments, yards and landlords
Situation: Housing a dog you already have, or finding a landlord who will take one
Why readers chose it: 29 records about housing. Renters describe pet rent, one paying $50 a month of it, and the difficulty of finding a let that will take an eighty-pound dog at all. Flat dwellers describe the lift, the leash and the stairs three or four times a day, and one describes complaints from neighbours as a live threat to their tenancy. The disagreement inside the card is about size: several say no dog over twenty pounds belongs in a flat, and are answered that great danes and Bernese mountain dogs make good flat dogs while medium-sized working breeds do not. The commenters on acreage mostly say they cannot relate to the thread at all, which is itself the finding.
What readers reported: I love my dog to PIECES. My boyfriend and I have had him since he was 8 weeks old, he's going be 6 in November. It has been so difficult, especially when he was a puppy. But, to me, the hardest part would be being a dog owner and a renter. I have an 80lb AmStaff. It is so hard to find a place to rent that checks all my boxes AND will accept my dog. That, and all the money it costs to take care of a dog. Everything is so expensive, right down to dog food. My boyfriend and I don't get any help and are living on our own in our mid-late 20s. It's definitely been a burden financially.
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I feel like every apartment complex I've toured as a prospective renter (usually newer, same amenities, cookie cutter types) in the last decade have allowed dogs and is full of them. Never again. Surely there is a larger market for people like you and I? Aside from blind people and maybe a retired person with a little dog, having a dog in an apartment does indicate something about a person's judgement. I grew up with dogs and think of them as man's best friend and all, but there are too many in the city and it has made me like them less than ever.
I almost ended my relationship with my partner because of his cat. I couldn’t stand the shedding, the yowling, the constant hacking, the litter box, the scratching whenever she would sit in my lap and get startled…. It really took me a long time to learn to live with her. But, funny story: it was his ex gf’s cat, she left it there after they broke up. Now we’re moving abroad and his ex wife has agreed to take her in. Lol it’s a crazy ex cat distribution system.
My last relationship fell apart because she had an extremely anxious dog. It would bark it's head off if you stood up. It would jump all over you constantly. And I mean CONSTANTLY. Like no off switch at all. Towards the end of the relationship, the dog started tearing up her house when she was out with me so she started forcing us to hang out only at her house and never doing anything else. Those last few weeks were fucking brutal
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My gf has a male Doberman in a tiny 1 br apartment, and it's by far the hardest thing about out relationship. My cats, however, are a joy in comparison, and I can tell she agrees, though she'd never admit it.
That is insane, I got a toy poodle cuz I live in an apartment. My friends have 2 60+ lbs dogs in a similar sized unit. I just don't mention it to them anymore.
I have owned 15 dogs in the past 15 years. But when my girlfriend and I move to a smaller place we will not be getting a pet. I cannot imagine owning a dog with a small/no yard and being that responsible for their entertainment. We currently have 6 dogs on a large yard. So I can easily go half the day without seeing them.
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The dog you did not agree toThe corpus's most under-discussed burden: the dog somebody else brought home, and who ends up doing the work.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: The dog you did not agree to
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The dog you did not agree to
Situation: Doing the work for a dog somebody else in the house wanted
Why readers chose it: 113 records about a dog that somebody else brought home, and the pattern is consistent enough to be a genre: a partner wanted it, promised to do the work, and the work migrated. It also arrives by inheritance when a parent dies, by a breakup, by a relative going away, and in one case by a cousin going to prison. Several of these commenters do the feeding, the walks and the yard while the person who wanted the dog does not, and several more say the experience became a reason not to date somebody who owns one. The corrective offered inside the card is the only one that fits it: that nobody should get a dog unless the whole household actually agreed.
What readers reported: I always said the best dogs are the dogs I don't have to take care of. My wife asked and asked for years for a puppy. I finally fucking caved, thinking it would be good for our kids. She promised and promised she would be the one to take care of it, I wouldn't have to lift a finger. We have now had this dog for 3 years. I am the only one that feeds it or takes it out. I'm the only one that makes sure to play fetch with it so it actually gets some exercise and socialization. My kids have nothing to do with it. It has almost no training and is a total idiot all the time, and destructive. I'm not really sure when the last time she spent any time with the dog was. I told her all of this would happen and that I would be super pissed and resentful it she didn't keep her word. She DID NOT KEEP HER WORD. And now she's begging for ANOTHER DOG. God give me fucking strength. I'm holding the line this time because FUCK THIS. An unwanted animal is TERRIBLE. Don't do it to yourself.
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I actually broke up w a girl because her dog was so fucking time consuming it was unreal. Her whole life revolves around her dog.
My last relationship fell apart because she had an extremely anxious dog. It would bark it's head off if you stood up. It would jump all over you constantly. And I mean CONSTANTLY. Like no off switch at all. Towards the end of the relationship, the dog started tearing up her house when she was out with me so she started forcing us to hang out only at her house and never doing anything else. Those last few weeks were fucking brutal
We have a dog. It's really my wife's dog. She wants all the love it gives. I have to pick up it's poo, repair the holes it digs, control it when it's going crazy barking at someone and deal with it's absurd stank. It also recycles its own poo which probably doesn't help with its stank. It's also broken. We've had it since a puppy but it hates our kid. Barely tolerates him and growls when he tries to hug her. Our kid just wants to hug [account] and she wants nothing to do with him.
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Now I feel lucky that we could leave the house for a few hours. Unfortunately some of them are just such high maintenance. I'm childfree, so having a furry toddler-like responsibility is not appealing
My wife begged for one, and she literally will not take care of it. The dog is 5, and she hasn’t taken it for a walk in years. I am so against having another animal I hate it.
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The problem is OP is caring for a pet they weren't consulted in getting. That's the WHOLE thing about dads/husbands not wanting pets. People promise to train them and take care of them, but then they don't or sometimes it's just more practical. I don't want my wife to have to go out on a rainy night in the dead of winter. I don't want her to have to walk the dogs alone at night because it's too hot to during the day. I don't want her to have to take them to the vet the morning after working three 12 hour overnight shifts because that's soonest appointment and the dog is sick and can't wait. Edit: this is overly generalized, but I mean it specifically for people in OP's situation. Not all wives/partners/kids.
These are all the reasons I keep telling my wife and kids, over and over, that we are never getting a dog. The clingyness thing in particular is something I find hard to deal with. It's just not for me.
My wife took a dog without asking me, One day I came back from work, and the dog was there. Before that, I told her numerous times I did not want a dog, as I knew for sure she would not take care of him, and all the chores & responsibilities would fall on me over time. I was really angry for quite some time about this situation. This was 2 years ago, and now I feel quite different, Having this dog in my life ended up being the best thing that ever happened to me. I wake up every morning at 7 am to go on a walk with him so he can take a shit, but I don't mind anymore :) It is for sure a hard commitment, but to me it is 200% worth it, I just love him, I love him so much that I am afraid of the pain I will have to face when I will lose him
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Dogs and children in the same houseThe point at which a workable dog stops being workable, reported repeatedly and from both directions.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Dogs and children in the same house
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Dogs and children in the same house
Situation: A dog that worked fine until a baby arrived
Why readers chose it: 50 records describing a single reliable turning point rather than a gradual decline. Commenters who managed a dog comfortably for years report that the arithmetic broke when a baby came: the dog dropped down the priority list, started acting out, and became the thing that woke the baby. The collisions are specific — barking during a nap, knocking a toddler over, being kept away from the baby entirely, a dog that became reactive to noise in the same year — and several report the reverse, a dog acquired alongside a toddler and both regretted. The advice people on the other side of it keep giving is to wait until the children are school-aged.
What readers reported: I loved having dogs until I had 2 kids. Now I have 4 kids and there always an afterthought. When I finally get a minute to breathe, the dogs need to go out, be fed, get a treat, get some belly rubs, etc. it’s exhausting
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I got pet adversion after having my baby. Not to mind the wee fucker decided to jump off the couch when he knows he's not allowed and landed weird and broke his back when I was freshly postpartum. He had to be on bed rest for weeks in a tiny crate to reduce movement and he just shit all over himself.and needed to be cleaned constantly. my partner had to hold him over a bucket of water every day for ages to get him to paddle for hydro therapy. Luckily it worked and he's walking again albeit a bit wobbly but not in pain. I love the little shit but Jesus Christ my patience is tested daily. I'd never get another dog after him.
Totally agree. I had a dog and he passed away at 10. I loved him. But the responsibilities were just too much. I refuse to get another dog for.the family at the cost of mu kids almost hating me for it. I dont care. Never again.
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I stupidly got a pup when my kid was 2 and potty training. My house smelled so bad with a kid and puppy peeing around. It drove me mad. We’re doing good now. But I don’t want anymore dogs after they’re gone for a long time.
honestly, I agree. I have a dog, and I love my dog, but I will not be getting another dog when he goes, or any pet for that matter. Its hard enough to get out of the house with a kid, with a dog too, its even worse. Always having to worry about getting home to feed the dog or let the dog out.
I love my dogs but i deeply regret getting them. Now that i have kids i just see the dogs as a burden on my time and money.
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Other people's dogs, and dogs in publicThe cost dog ownership imposes on everyone else — pavements, parks, offices, weddings and elderly relatives.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Other people's dogs, and dogs in public
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Other people's dogs, and dogs in public
Situation: Paying part of the cost of a dog you do not own
Why readers chose it: 42 records from the people absorbing somebody else's dog. The complaints are pavements and parks, poop bags left in trees or posted into strangers' bins, dogs urinating on a ground-floor flat's plants, dogs taken into shops and restaurants that do not allow them, and one dog defecating along a food queue. Several are social rather than physical: a bridesmaid who left a wedding straight after dinner, a colleague bitten by his own dog leaving a shift short, a family who cannot visit because of a relative's untrained dog. The framing several reach for is that dog ownership pushes part of its cost onto everybody else, and this is where the least sympathetic language in the corpus sits.
What readers reported: I really love dogs but... The fact that their is shit absolutely all over my local town drives me mad. Most people lift the shit sure, but even from a turd being lifted there is a small amount left. Multiply this by dozens each day. Then there are the ones not picked up and this is also a fairly regular event. I sometimes see the poo, then later on when walking near the same spot, see that some unlucky person, or six, have stood on it, so it's no longer a single poo but a succession of squashed demi shits trampled over ten yards. It's grotesque and I'm not sure why this is just ok. Then I go to play football with my young son at the local park. Guess what? Dog shit fucking everywhere. Again, most people lift it but some do not so I'm constantly having to be concerned that my toddler who has no sense will either walk on it, or literally fall in some hidden turd lurking in the grass where we are playing. Rant over. I used to think I wanted a dog but now I know I don't. I don't want to have to deal with the shit and I don't want to contribute to the collective shit all over my town streets.
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My stupid brother decided to drop off a lab/golden retriever mix at my elderly 70 year old+ parents' house. I warned them all over and over and over again that this is NOT the right breed for them. They are narcissists and my brother is their golden child so they told me to f-off and stop being miserable. Well, one month later my mom runs out of the house sobbing because, like I warned her, she was doing most of the work while my dad sat in his chair refusing to help and sulking and raging over the dog. I live with them because I am very ill and my life has been completely ruined by this very needy dog. I love her, and she can be funny, but she is A LOT of work for me who is chronically ill and has tons of health problems. Meanwhile my brother and my dad get together and call us "dramatic" or "psychos" because we're always angry and tired while they do absolutely nothing but sit on the couch and drool over their favorite wrestlers on Sunday. I warned them. I'll never forgive them. Some days I just want to pack up my stuff and leave. But I'll feel bad for the dog leaving her with these idiots.
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> You can't take a dog most places. nowadays dog owners do, because they're entitled dickheads. dog culture is a social cancer at this point
The worst part is dog owners
Nothing make you seethe at the narcissistic injustice of bad dog owners like being a responsible dog owner
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Allergies, and the people who are frightened of dogsA small group whose constraint is not effort at all but exposure, including the owners who worked around it.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Allergies, and the people who are frightened of dogs
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Allergies, and the people who are frightened of dogs
Situation: Living around dogs when the constraint is your body or your history
Why readers chose it: 10 records where the limit is not effort. Two describe a dog allergy that varies by coat rather than by size, and the workaround they chose — a yorkie, a papillon, a poodle — even though it produced some of the clingiest dogs in the corpus. The rest are about fear: a commenter whose mother was attacked as a child and is still frightened decades later, and a neighbour so afraid of dogs that the owner across the hall rebuilt her entire leaving routine so the two would never meet. The complaint several of them make is the same one: that being told the dog is friendly is offered as if it settled the matter.
What readers reported: Oh man, when I moved in I learned my neighbor was terrified of dogs, his apt door faces mine. So the universe in its infinite wisdom put me, the lady with two dogs, across from him. I felt so bad. I changed the entire routine I left my house so he would never run into the dogs on accident.
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Oh man, when I moved in I learned my neighbor was terrified of dogs, his apt door faces mine. So the universe in its infinite wisdom put me, the lady with two dogs, across from him. I felt so bad. I changed the entire routine I left my house so he would never run into the dogs on accident.
I’m allergic to dogs as well. I wanted a poodle since they are hypoallergenic and can be medium to large. Hubby wanted a little dog and didn’t want a poodle. So he decided on the Yorkie. They are incredibly adorable dogs. Just too clingy.
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Oh man, when I moved in I learned my neighbor was terrified of dogs, his apt door faces mine. So the universe in its infinite wisdom put me, the lady with two dogs, across from him. I felt so bad. I changed the entire routine I left my house so he would never run into the dogs on accident.
I’m allergic to dogs as well. I wanted a poodle since they are hypoallergenic and can be medium to large. Hubby wanted a little dog and didn’t want a poodle. So he decided on the Yorkie. They are incredibly adorable dogs. Just too clingy.
Have you ever considered a hypoallergenic dog if you love dogs so much? It is so amazing to not be sweeping up fur and dander everywhere
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Saying it out loudWhat this subreddit made possible: regret, rehoming, and the readers who worked through the thread and decided against a dog. 415 records.
Loving the dog and regretting the ownershipThe distinction nearly every record here insists on: the dog is not the thing being regretted.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Loving the dog and regretting the ownership
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Loving the dog and regretting the ownership
Situation: Holding both feelings at once, and what that actually means
Why readers chose it: 36 records making the same distinction, and it is worth taking seriously because the corpus is otherwise easy to misread. These commenters are not describing a bad dog; several describe a good one in detail in the same comment. What they regret is the arrangement — the resentment, the guilt at feeling it, the sense of a life narrowed around an animal they chose. Several arrive at it late, after a decade and two dogs; several arrive at it because circumstances changed underneath them. The phrasing the card produces most often is some version of loving dogs and not loving owning one.
What readers reported: Yup. It took me 10+ years and 2 dogs of my own before I realized… I LOVE dogs; I do not love OWNING A DOG. They’re sweet and adorable and fun, and generally lovely and amazing animals - but they are so. Much. Fucking. Work. I’m already working full-time in a demanding field, raising two young children, launching a small business, and generally managing our household. We still have one dog who is really my husband’s dog, so he does 99% of the work/care. If it was just me I’d probably never own a dog again, just visit my friends and family who have dogs, or volunteer at a shelter when I need a puppy fix!
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I am with you. I like dogs; I don't want to take care of one. I made this very clear to my husband and 10-year-old daughter. And I got all the promises that they'll do everything and I may need to take her out when I work from home. Well the puppy is 6 months old, not housebroken and I am feeling resentment. It's a huge interruption to my day, which is why I didn't want one. We need to keep her in her pen or she will walk around and have accidents. My husband complains the dog isn't out of its pen enough but I am like she's not housebroken, I don't have time to watch her every second. It's just this vicious cycle. And do you think my daughter is really doing her fair share??? When she is with the puppy, she is on her phone so more accidents! I am really dreading winter, and I get so p\*ssed off when I think about all the stuff that has been ruined in our house. And all the money spent. And how my husband gets stressed about the puppy but he made the big to do about getting her. BOTTOM LINE: you can like dogs, but not like taking care of them.
I concur that owning a dog is miserable. I don’t hate dogs by any means and I love all the doggos in my life but after my ex and I broke up and it was just me and my cat… omg the relief and peace lol My husband has a dog who I love dearly but the actual caring for him is so annoying when I’m alone lol
I adopted a puppy last year. He's mixed breed of something. No clue what type he is. Someone asked me if I regretted it recently. I said there's nothing in this world that could take him away from me, but if I knew what I know now, I wouldn't adopt a dog. The lovins he gives and this big baby curling up on me and looking up into my eyes wagging his tail uncontrollably make up for everything, but holy shit does he chew on everything.
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Same situation as you. Never owned a dog, always thought I wanted one. My fiancee got me a dog last year and I fucking hate it. I hate every single things about dog ownership. I'd love to tell you that there's some amazing positive upside to the responsibility and chores and that at least I have unconditional love and a dog I love to death who's my buddy; but to make things worse I realized I just don't connect with animals like others do. I don't see him as my family or my best friend, to me he's just an animal that relies on my for everything and does nothing for me in return other than stress me out. I dont hate the dog, I hate the lifestyle. He's pretty chill.
Once I was out of college and got a full time dog, I got my first dog on my own. My family always had a dog, but having one that was my solely my responsibility was hard. He was never really clingy and had more of a cats personality than a dogs. He was perfect for me, but I worried about him constantly. It only got worse as he got older. He stressed me out and caused me so much anxiety it was nuts. He made me so happy, but for the sake of my mental health and blood pressure I will never do it again.
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I always grew up with dogs, loved dogs. Then I got my own and like holy fuck was another level of responsibility. I dunno, loved the dog, hated being a dog mom. I have young kids now and I just cannot fathom having one now. I feel like a bad person but they just need so much from you.
Agreed I hate owning a dog
Man, I’m with you. I fucking got another one bc we thought the OG dog was going to die in the near future. It hasn’t died, so I now own 2 dogs that I really get no pleasure from.
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Rehoming, returning and surrenderingWhat actually happened when people stopped, told with less defensiveness than the rest of the thread.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Rehoming, returning and surrendering
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Rehoming, returning and surrendering
Situation: Deciding the arrangement cannot continue, and finding the dog somewhere else
Why readers chose it: 31 records from people who stopped, and they are notably less defensive than the thread around them. The reasons are specific: a boxer puppy that consumed the entire day until a seven-year-old told his father he could spend time with him again; a whippet whose exercise needs outran a marathon runner; a dachshund rehomed after six years; a dog rehomed after a baby arrived and it stopped tolerating the cats; a dog surrendered back to the shelter it came from. Several report the outcome — photographs from the new home, a relief they describe without apology. The dissent inside the card is from a commenter being advised to rehome, who answers that the reality of it is bleak.
What readers reported: Not unpopular. At least not with me. We got a boxer puppy. Super sweet puppy and later a super sweet young dog. But oh my fucking God she was all consuming. At the time I was not working and all day, I was committed to her. First thing in the morning and last thing at night, I was parenting the dog. When we finally rehomed her, my 7 year old son said, "now you can spend time with me daddy ".
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We had a pure-bred black lab when I was a kid. My dad's coworker bought him and basically ignored him in his backyard for a year. He then got a Doberman and decided he didn't want the lab anymore. He was a great dog and was friendly to everyone, except the UPS drivers. We think one of them sprayed him one day and he associated it with the big brown truck after that.
It has been working for 3 years. The reality of rehoming is bleak.
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Not unpopular. At least not with me. We got a boxer puppy. Super sweet puppy and later a super sweet young dog. But oh my fucking God she was all consuming. At the time I was not working and all day, I was committed to her. First thing in the morning and last thing at night, I was parenting the dog. When we finally rehomed her, my 7 year old son said, "now you can spend time with me daddy ".
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Not unpopular. At least not with me. We got a boxer puppy. Super sweet puppy and later a super sweet young dog. But oh my fucking God she was all consuming. At the time I was not working and all day, I was committed to her. First thing in the morning and last thing at night, I was parenting the dog. When we finally rehomed her, my 7 year old son said, "now you can spend time with me daddy ".
Yep. I had dogs for a few years and then got rid of them. My last one decided she wanted to chase horses. Not aggressively or anything just wanted to run with them and my horses told her to f off. I will never own another dog.
accounting for all the dogs that are given up at the shelter, this opinion might not be as unpopular as we think. ill hold my tongue on how much i love my amazing dog, im sure we hear too much of that from owners already 😅
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Never again: the people who will not get anotherThe corpus's most common conclusion, and it is usually reached by somebody who still has the dog and still loves it.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Never again: the people who will not get another
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Never again: the people who will not get another
Situation: Deciding, while still keeping this dog, that there will not be another
Why readers chose it: 111 records, the most common conclusion in the corpus, and the interesting part is who reaches it. Almost all of these commenters still have the dog and describe it affectionately in the same sentence. The reasons stack rather than single out: travel, cost, cleaning, weather, the vigilance around other dogs, and the ending. A number of them had dogs continuously for thirty, forty or forty-five years. What they notice afterwards is consistent enough to be its own finding — a house that stays clean, a yard that can be crossed barefoot, and the ability to leave for a weekend on twenty minutes' notice.
What readers reported: I won’t do it again! Loved my dog, she lived a great life for 14 years, but I would never do it again.
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What the replies added3
I agree. I absolutely loved and adored my dog and was super devoted to him while he was alive, but never again. It's so much work and responsibility. I have zero interest in ever picking up dog shit, cleaning up drool, managing fur all over everything, etc. I personally don't understand why more people don't say that owning a dog sucks, but I guess I'm really just not a dog person bc it seems I'm in the minority opinion here
Agree and i never want another one. I got a puppy when I was 12 and had her until I was 26, ruined all the carpets in my apartment, vet bills $$…. I’m good. People are like “my dog needs surgery it’s $6k”. No thanks!
I had a German Shepherd for 10 years. Great dog and I don't know if I'll ever get over losing her, but I probably won't ever get another dog. They are a ton of work and although I had mine really trained, she was still a handful. I had to board her when traveling (which sucked because she was an aggressive dog w/ other dogs), the vet was expensive and the barking was one thing I couldn't train out of her. Miss my pup, but yeah...never again.
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I love dogs and unfortunately, my pug passed away 4 years ago. However, there is not a bone in my body that wants a dog right now. I might feel differently in a few years but they really tie you to the house!
I've had dogs my whole life, it's only in the last few years I've decided, nope, not for me anymore. They're annoying, wreck shit and I just get nothing out of having a dog anymore. There's no longer a benefit for me personally. I used to rehabilitate dogs to find their forever homes and pretty much always had two dogs of my own since I was little. I'm 35 now and just have no interest anymore, just don't like dogs anymore.
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I won’t do it again! Loved my dog, she lived a great life for 14 years, but I would never do it again.
I highly agree with this. It is a lot of responsibility and people should really consider having animals as much as they have kids. I love my dogs to death but I think because of the responsibility I would never do it again but the comments on here worry me on how much they love their dogs
I can’t wait until we don’t have a dog anymore
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Why people do not say this out loudThe reason this thread exists, in the words of people describing what happens when they say it anywhere else.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Why people do not say this out loud
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Why people do not say this out loud
Situation: What happens when somebody admits any of this outside an anonymous thread
Why readers chose it: 17 records about the reception rather than the dog, and together they explain why a thread like this appears on a subreddit for unpopular opinions. Commenters report being told they have no soul, that they are a bad owner, and that they should not have children. Several say they assumed the feeling was theirs alone until they read the thread. One reply pushes back on the vocabulary itself — that calling somebody a bad owner reads as condescension where calling them a struggling owner would read as help — and several name the mechanism they think produces the silence, which is that what people post about their dogs is edited.
What readers reported: I hate that people can’t say they have a negative experience owning a dog online without a dozen people jumping in and saying that “actually it’s all your fault because you’re a bad owner”
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To be fair, all the things op doesn’t like about the dog are a result of neglecting to train it and manage their own living space properly. Can you truly complain about problems that are your fault? Op isn’t even the owner of the dog so it’s not their fault but it definitely is their wife’s fault lmao.
I have a dog that I love very much but I tell everyone to not get a dog unless 1. they are happy being home most of the time or 2. they are rich and can afford dog walkers and sitter on a regular basis (plus all other vet bills). It should not be an unpopular opinion, its just sad because there's so many dogs that need homes but not enough people capable of caring for them
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I think it might be better to say they have a struggling owner or one who needs some guidance. The speed at which we label people a “bad owner” tends to read more as condescending than constructive.
Got our first dog when I was 20 I love him but I never feel like I’m doing enough for him and I feel bad bc sometimes I just wanna chill
I appreciate this so much. I always feel guilty, because although I love my dogs, they're good and friendly, but I do not want to be a dog owner again, and I thought that EVERYONE loves their dogs so much. I have a friend who says when she has to go on work trips she doesn't miss her kids, but she misses her dogs so much. I can't even. They are so needy, I can't even take them to the kennel so we can go on vacation anymore because in their older age (11) they cannot handle it and act like fools. They constantly need to be touching me. Everyone LOVES them, for some reason, and I just want to tell them to please borrow them for a week. So, yeah, you're not alone, and reading all of these comments makes me feel better.
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The dog that turned out to be a different animalRecords where the mismatch is specific and traceable to a decision made before the dog arrived.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: The dog that turned out to be a different animal
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The dog that turned out to be a different animal
Situation: A dog chosen carefully that turned out to be the wrong dog anyway
Why readers chose it: 17 records where the mismatch is traceable to one decision. The clearest is the commenter who researched properly, chose an Italian greyhound for a city flat, then married and moved to the countryside where the same dog became unmanageable. The rest are recognisable: a Min Pin chosen as an apartment-sized Doberman; a supposed forty-pound labradoodle that grew into a hundred-pound lab; a dog bought as a pure chihuahua that turned out part Jack Russell; corgis chosen for the face and kept through a decade of barking; a Weimaraner picked as a dream dog and described three years later as the thing that turned its owner into a cat person. What they share is not a bad dog but a decision made about a picture.
What readers reported: I researched and got an Italian greyhound because I needed a quiet apartment dog. He was great when I lived in a city apartment, but I hate him now that I live in a house in the countryside (got married and moved to husband's house). He barks all the time, tries to chase scooters and cars (we have a wall around our property, but he still tries), steals trash (he can open the trash cans), and pees everywhere (got bad during my pregnancy, and never got better). He's the dog that has made me - a lifelong dog lover - decide that I never again want to have another dog.
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I researched and got an Italian greyhound because I needed a quiet apartment dog. He was great when I lived in a city apartment, but I hate him now that I live in a house in the countryside (got married and moved to husband's house). He barks all the time, tries to chase scooters and cars (we have a wall around our property, but he still tries), steals trash (he can open the trash cans), and pees everywhere (got bad during my pregnancy, and never got better). He's the dog that has made me - a lifelong dog lover - decide that I never again want to have another dog.
This Exactly. Had a Maltipoo for ten years and she was my soul dog. Now I have a Blue Nose Pitbull girl who is very sweet, but their Behaviors are ASTRONOMICALLY different. Consider Before You Buy/Adopt. I'll be real, the pitbull is a brat and causes trouble for attention. My other dog would just beg for the attention without causing trouble. Both are annoying, but one is damaging/costing you extra money. (Ex. Pitbull ruined the hardwood floor by peeing on it at night even though she gets taken out before bed. Won't be in her cage anymore without trying to escape and injuring herself so I just stopped putting her in it at night, hence her peeing all over the floor whenever she wants. It used to be her safe space but once she got a bit older her attitude totally changed. Rips the couch trying to get comfy so she is only allowed on the love seat now, which I fear will also get ripped.) Those are just a few My Maltipoo acted the same her entire life, and I loved it. Her personality lastest until the last three days of her life, only because she was so weak. I have seen the Pitbull's change throughout her life and she just became more and more bratty. Maybe someone can enlighten me on what I'm doing wrong this time around to have this happen so often with her bratty behavior and the accidents in the house. She goes outside to go potty, then just does it in the house "for attention" then will come running to me as if to say "look what I just did" My Maltipoo was so obedient in the potty department so I'm wondering what I've done wrong.
Corgi owner here, and I totally agree! My boy is 5, and he's not right. Stubborn as hell, so much energy, and a lot stronger than you would think for a little dog. And his bark is a full grown big dog bark! He has me trained, and he's not going anywhere, but never again!!
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Corgis are a good example of this. People get them because they’re cute as heck, but they DO NOT LISTEN, shed like crazy, always get poo stuck in their hind fluff, and bark like there’s no tomorrow. I would never get a Corgi again. \*\*\*Edited to add: I loved my Corgi dearly and he was the sweetest pup ever. We were his third home because the first two homes couldn’t handle him. He had a lot of annoying common puppy traits when we got him, but over time he became a very sweet dog and he eventually stopped ripping apart all of our socks and shoes, etc. But his intense and loud bark never got better unfortunately. I do miss his zoomies though 🥲
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Corgis are a good example of this. People get them because they’re cute as heck, but they DO NOT LISTEN, shed like crazy, always get poo stuck in their hind fluff, and bark like there’s no tomorrow. I would never get a Corgi again. \*\*\*Edited to add: I loved my Corgi dearly and he was the sweetest pup ever. We were his third home because the first two homes couldn’t handle him. He had a lot of annoying common puppy traits when we got him, but over time he became a very sweet dog and he eventually stopped ripping apart all of our socks and shoes, etc. But his intense and loud bark never got better unfortunately. I do miss his zoomies though 🥲
This is how I feel about my Jack Russel mix. We thought we were getting a pure Chihuahua but she’s clearly got JRT in her as she grew up. She is now 6 and still Hell on wheels. Everything is barking and running.
My bf has a 4 yr old corgi which they adopted just last year after her previous owner migrated. She changed my mind about corgis, I absolutely hate the breed now and do not find them cute AT ALL. She rips everything apart, eats her shit, pisses everywhere, sheds like craaazy and doesn’t like getting groomed, gets mad at her american bully brother for no reason, and does not listen to any command at all. I have a feeling it’s because she was a kennel dog with the previous owner, which I am very very sad and angry about. Now she really won’t listen, and does not even want to go out on walks. She barks at everything too. My grandma on the other hand, has a male corgi, whose only issue is his temper with other male dogs. Other corgis I’ve come across in the vet are also loud and aggressive. I really would not recommend them.
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The people who decided not to get one at allReaders doing the arithmetic in public and coming out the other side without a dog.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: The people who decided not to get one at all
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The people who decided not to get one at all
Situation: Reading the thread and choosing not to start
Why readers chose it: 140 records from readers working through the argument in public and coming out without a dog, which makes this the clearest measure of what the corpus does to somebody actually deciding. The reasons they name are the ones the burden cards describe: the walks, the waste, the travel, the vigilance around other dogs, the cost. Several grew up with dogs and are explicit that childhood ownership taught them the opposite of what their parents intended. A distinct sub-group name a hard limit rather than a preference — dialysis, disability, depression, autism, a ninety-minute commute each way, twelve-hour shifts — and say plainly that the dog would be the one paying for it.
What readers reported: Sure, that's why having a dog sucks for some people. I love dogs, but could never own one. Because I hate poop more and I wouldn't be able to find time to walk it. It's ok to think dogs are awesome but owning dogs suck. I stand with OP and for more reasons than he said.
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ive lived with dogs my whole life, like BIG dogs and i completely agree. i love every dog my family has had, but once im on my own.... never again...
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Eugh, this is unfortunately why even though my husband and i would love a dog, we realised that we really don't want the responsibility. We also work full time at similar hours and travel internationally on average twice a year, it wouldn't be fair to leave them alone that often, but I don't want to give up the spontaneity and freedom in our lives that not having kids already grants us. Pets are hard work when you look after them properly, and I would never get one if I wasn't going to fully commit to proper care. A friend of mine recently dog-sitted for their family member, and whilst she was leaning heavily on not having kids she said it solidified her decision because she couldn't imagine having to look after even the dog full time.
I love dogs, and I’ve always wanted one. But I’m on dialysis & am tired all the time. When my aunt (kindly, not meanly) asked why don’t I have a pet dog, I told her “I want to give any animal I have all the love & attention it deserves. Unfortunately I can’t give it all the love & attention it needs now. Maybe once I get better after my transplant” and she agreed
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Sure, that's why having a dog sucks for some people. I love dogs, but could never own one. Because I hate poop more and I wouldn't be able to find time to walk it. It's ok to think dogs are awesome but owning dogs suck. I stand with OP and for more reasons than he said.
Yeah. Pets are a definite no no for us.
Yep. I've never wanted a dog even though I am sure there are many benefits. I don't want to be personally responsible for a loud, smelly toddler that shits outside and potentially bites people. But they sure are cute and fun.
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A toddler that never grows upThe corpus's dominant metaphor, and the argument about whether it flatters the dog or insults the toddler.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: A toddler that never grows up
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A toddler that never grows up
Situation: The comparison the thread reaches for when it wants to explain the burden
Why readers chose it: 63 records using one metaphor, and the argument inside the card is about which way it cuts. The dominant version is that a dog is a toddler that never ages out, quoted at ten to fifteen years and at twenty by one commenter. The disagreements are precise: parents pointing out that a dog can be left alone for eight hours and a baby cannot, and that nobody is prosecuted over a dog; and non-parents pointing out that the toddler eventually manages its own toilet. A smaller group reaches for other comparisons — a live-in special-needs dependant, a developmentally delayed child — and this is where the corpus's language gets least careful.
What readers reported: It's toddler-lite, but also, THEY NEVER STOP BEING A TODDLER.
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It's toddler-lite. Like right when they can walk, but still put random stuff in their mouths. I love my dog. But I hate being a dog owner. Never again
We had a baby and we had a puppy. The puppy was house broken and stopped crying in the night within a few months. Can't say the same about the baby. There's a reason people want a dog instead of a child. They're less responsibility and emotional investment.
Its like having to care for three year old that stays that stage for yearsuntil suddenly they're old and eventually you get your heart broken.
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Dogs are like kids without the perks of it being an actual person you can do human stuff with. Not for me, more power to ya if you enjoy it, lol.
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Dog ownership is essentially baby-lite.
Yes they are like children. We do not say that just for shts and giggles lmao
Dogs are like kids man. They require full attention and training. Anyone who says being a dog parent isn’t like being a real parent in some sense it kind of is because you can’t leave them alone in some aspect and you’re constantly on your toes. It does have some parallels and actually probably the closest thing. I hope it all works out for all of yall.
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What people said actually workedEvery fix the thread offered, from a trainer to a paid yard service to not getting a dog in the first place. 516 records.
Training, a trainer, and what it changedNamed techniques and named results — including the people who paid for professional training and report that it did not work.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Training, a trainer, and what it changed
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Training, a trainer, and what it changed
Situation: Working a specific behaviour out of a dog, and finding out whether it takes
Why readers chose it: 46 records with actual protocols in them. The most detailed is the reactivity work: mark the dog the instant its ears go up, use high-value treats reserved only for the sight of another dog, cue its name, and turn away when it goes over threshold — with the candid admission that nothing works once it has. Others name the method: a touch command used as the base for everything else, a clicker, a board-and-train at six months, a certified veterinary behaviourist. What makes the card usable rather than promotional is that it carries its own failures — a dog that will not take A5 wagyu once it has seen another dog, and $3,000 of training that left the dog still clingy, still counter-surfing and still barking at everything.
What readers reported: I trained our reactive dog to look at me any time another dog came near us by using treats. She went from trying to lunge at passing dogs to making the positive association that “other dogs = opportunities for snack”. Being very food motivated, she wouldn’t take her eyes off me until the treat was in her mouth. And by the time I stopped and got the treat out of my bag to give to her, the other dog would be long gone and a distant memory.
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I saw a woman and her dog on a very tiny traffic island in the middle of an extremely busy main road. Another guy with a dog joined them, and her dog lost its shit, and pulled her into the traffic. Luckily she wasnt hit, but people should also consider a dogs adult size when they buy one, and if they can physically control it
Clearly you have only had dogs that aren't stubborn and neurotic.
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My neighbor does that with her yorkies. So whenever I pet sit i send her pics of the dogs poop lol She also adopted a dog that was severely abused, unfortunately 2 months later his body gave in to the previous abuse and lost control of his body . We found out he had 3 fractures in his bones. for those 4 months we were hands on with him, he was a very reactive dog and made impressive progress! with the right research, patience, habit building, and a lot of positive reinforcement its shows you how smart dogs actually are and capable they are too learn. But the reality is I have seen a lot of pet owners treat their pets as... animals. You are that pets world. You are all they know. You are their responsibility . they rely on you for everything. I feel people underestimate the responsibility of owning pets. My dog is 12 years old. We are so attached to one another. When my bf was looking for a place for us to move in to for the first time, he automatically included my dog in the equation.Because he knew that she is my baby and my responsibility. And he treats her with so much love and care. Now we have a cat of 3 years ! It can get frustrating though, I am always aware of the pets routines, they tend to change every so often. There was a time when my doggo woke up at 4 am to have a potty break. I am so attuned to her that i wake up from the pitter patter of her feet, if I dont wake up, she will start being vocal and if me or my bf still for some reason dont wake up, only then will she do her business in the house. We know what are pets want and what they ask for and they know to ask. Its just years of adjusting and communicating with your pets. Not knowing how to train your pets can lead you to reward their bad behaviors without realizing it. like, if they bark, people pick of their dogs, to the dog being picked up is a reward instead of discipline If i could get another chance to raise my dog ,I would ! No regrets! she is the most constant thing in my life and we bring each other so much love and comfort, I dread her final days...Only reason I wouldnt get another dog is cause it wont be her. Maybe in the future.
The treat only works if you give it before they hit the loose their shit threshold. You have to time it just enough for it to be effectively reduce negative feelings about an object. Too soon it doesn’t work. Too late is simply too late.
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I trained our reactive dog to look at me any time another dog came near us by using treats. She went from trying to lunge at passing dogs to making the positive association that “other dogs = opportunities for snack”. Being very food motivated, she wouldn’t take her eyes off me until the treat was in her mouth. And by the time I stopped and got the treat out of my bag to give to her, the other dog would be long gone and a distant memory.
Check out the kikopup YouTube channel! She has amaaaaazing vids about training, including around them not eating random shit off the floor, them learning when an activity is not for them and them learning when to settle. But yes having a dog is hard work 😂 i LOOOOOVE my dog more than anything and he 1000% made my life better and I never knew I was capable of love this deep before I met him but if we didn’t have this incredible bond for sure i would find it really hard, looking after other people’s dogs is much harder work!
Agreed. The fact that you got to" leave it " working is really a huge win. Most owners don't get to that level even. Dogs are scavengers by nature. It's hard to remove something so engrained in their DNA.
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Anxiety medication for the dogThe specific drugs commenters name, with what each owner says it did and did not fix.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Anxiety medication for the dog
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Anxiety medication for the dog
Situation: Medicating a dog for reactivity, separation anxiety or storm panic
Why readers chose it: 10 records naming specific drugs and what each one did. Fluoxetine is the one most often credited, including by an owner whose dog previously barked at a moving dot four blocks away; the same owners are candid that it reduced the anxiety without removing the reactivity. Others name gabapentin alongside it, clomicalm with behavioural work, and trazodone for storms — and one owner says trazodone is the only thing that touches it and still is not enough. One commenter supplies the timing detail the rest imply: two to three months to full effect, with appetite loss and worse behaviour first. The card's most useful record is the one noting that no trainer or vet they saw ever raised medication, answered by somebody whose trainers were actively against it.
What readers reported: My dog is on Prozac/Gabapentin as well. It has made a difference for him. Be aware that it really doesn’t reach its ultimate effectiveness until 2 to 3 months later. In fact, in the beginning, it curbs their appetite and the behavior may get worse for a bit. My dog used to be extremely reactive to any noise, people, dogs, TV shows. Now, he isn’t bothered by fireworks, loud noises, traffic on the road, people… he still gets a little nervous seeing other dogs, but is food motivated and looks to me to give him a treat. I started using his kibbles instead, because the treat distraction was really getting out of control. If a person/dog seemingly appears out of nowhere, he still barks, but will stop right away, once I evaluated the perceived threat and say, “No barks!” I also don’t give a treat when he does bark without a good reason.
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I’m lmao at the idea of Freddy showing up and making it rain before he starts chasing you down
I trained our reactive dog to look at me any time another dog came near us by using treats. She went from trying to lunge at passing dogs to making the positive association that “other dogs = opportunities for snack”. Being very food motivated, she wouldn’t take her eyes off me until the treat was in her mouth. And by the time I stopped and got the treat out of my bag to give to her, the other dog would be long gone and a distant memory.
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You may already be doing this, but Prozac worked wonders for our cranky weiner dog. Literally if any other living creature existed in the same square mile, our dog would get so damn anxious he would bark his freaking head off at a moving dot 4 blocks away. Now his ears will perk at a dog across the street but he'll move on if I say his name. Treat bombing when the dog is stressed has helped a ton as well. Our trainer put it this way: It's normal to get nervous when Freddy Krueger comes in your house, but you'll learn to live with it if he throws hundred dollar bills at you when he comes.
My wife had two golden prior to me meeting her. They are now 11. Every time it storms (we live in Fl) my anxiety goes through the roof. We have a furbo camera and when I’m at work I just know that they are freaking out. One of them pees and poops in the house if it’s a storm with thunder and lightning and NOTHING I do helps. He’s prescribed trazadone and that is the only thing that even affects him in the slightest. But then, when my mother in law watched him they gave him too much trazadone and he had diahrea and now they refuse to watch him. I love them, but my wife and I will never go through this again. Dogs with anxiety are extremely difficult to deal with. My job is stressful enough I don’t want to come home to a dog that has torn through a door and jumped on the bed just to relieve himself.
I’ve seen several comments now where people mentioned antidepressants and now I wonder because none of the trainers or vets I saw offered that as an option.
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Daycare, walkers, sitters and yard servicesPaying somebody else to absorb the schedule, with the prices these commenters paid for it.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Daycare, walkers, sitters and yard services
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Daycare, walkers, sitters and yard services
Situation: Buying back the parts of the schedule you cannot cover
Why readers chose it: 23 records about paying somebody else to do it. The prices are stated: $45 a week for a yard cleaned once a week, $20 a week for the same job elsewhere, and daycare used two days a week explicitly to buy the owner a break. A scoop service is recommended independently by several commenters who describe it as one of the best purchases they made. The most specific advice in the card is about boarding a reactive dog: several report that facilities offering solo play and separate yards exist but do not advertise it, and that an overnight trial while still in town is how they found out whether it would work.
What readers reported: I have 3, we have someone clean the yard once a week for $45. They entertain each other. I will say that these are likely my last dogs. My youngest child is 12, my youngest dog is 4. In 12 or so years, when the last one passes, we're done. Now, talk about getting hurt. In June my youngest dog caught a hook on the edge of the patio and tore all the skin off her right side. She had to have 2 surgeries and the book was $4500 so I understand your sentiment.
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We live with my in-laws and they wouldn’t be ok with that. No, they are not capable of doing anything beyond reinforcing bad behavior and coddling him when he has an accident inside (because they wouldn’t let him out). My problems are bigger than the dog, I know
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> I can’t board them because she’s a reactive dog As someone with an extremely reactive dog, professional trainer said top 5 worst dog out of 100s .... i would call around boarding facilities with large areas ...i was so scared to leave my dog with anyone for similar concerns, but they worked with me (we did overnight trial while i was in town and worked from there) it changed my life for me, a good boarding facility can handle a reactive dog, and my dog has come around to LOVE them as if they were family unfortunately, it's not always cheapest option
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We lucked out finding a boarding facility that accepts reactive dogs. The owner is fantastic. They do small group play for some dogs but reactive dogs get solo play with staff. But before I had a reactive dog (who was fine before she was attacked by an off leash dog), I could not begin to understand the hoops you jump through for your dog. Everything takes extra planning. Despite it all, she’s the best and I love her so much. I just wish I could tell her that we are always going to keep her safe and she doesn’t need to stress.
So I work from home most of the time and my pets clingyness can get overwhelming sometimes so we've started doing two days of daycare each week so they can socialize with others, exercise AND give me a little break lol
I just let my gardener deal with the poo and don't go walking around back there.. its hilarious to me how much poo he mows lol. (Yes I'm terrible). Couldn't love my Aussies more though they're a gift from the gods except when they puke/poo on the carpet
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Choosing a lazy, small or senior dog on purposeThe most practical answer in the thread: pick a dog whose needs you can already meet, and the breeds people name for it.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Choosing a lazy, small or senior dog on purpose
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Choosing a lazy, small or senior dog on purpose
Situation: Reducing the burden by choosing a dog with smaller needs rather than trying harder
Why readers chose it: 109 records recommending a lower-need dog instead of more owner effort. The breeds named repeatedly are greyhounds and whippets — described by several ex-racing owners as sprinters that sleep the rest of the day on two short walks — plus pugs, shih tzus, bichons, cavaliers, French and English bulldogs, Boston terriers, beagle mixes, giant breeds and livestock guardians. The mechanical arguments are consistent: a small dog produces small waste, can be picked up out of danger, and costs less to feed. The card also carries its own caveats from inside — bulldogs need daily wrinkle and ear care, frenchies are needy rather than low-effort, and sighthounds have a prey drive that rules out a house with a cat.
What readers reported: That’s why I only get lazy breeds. I’m happy with a dog that has maybe 4 hours of buzz each day to interact and play and prefers to spend the rest of their time lounging around.
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I went the opposite way, but for the same reason. My Blue Staffy is a ball of muscle and teeth but is not at all aggressive to people or dogs. They are love sponges, more concerned with getting pets and treats and getting to run around at the dog park than with what any other dog might be posturing about. I kind of think (talking out my ass here) it is because he is so confident in his own strength that he dosent overly care about threats from other dogs.
Shockingly, I have a lazy Husky, that doesn't bark, howl, or scream. I think she's broken 😂 the only time I hear her "scream" is when she yawns in the morning. She's clever af, the only dog I've had that revognizes mw through a window, the other thinks I'm a stranger and barks at me 🙄. I think the longest we've played fetch is 20 mins before she's like meh, I'd rather lay down. She's nosey, she loves sniff walks and looking at people, and her personality is literally like an old lady who watches people through the curtains. We have a deck and she likes to plonk herself on the steps and people watch over the wall/fence, so I sit with her and people watch too and she's happy as can be. I really lucked out rescuing her. My other dog, a poodle mix is fucking bat shit. I love and resent her. She's super obedient and 100% listens, but everything is done at 100 miles an hour, no in between. 😅
Dogs are a lot of work for sure. I think they are ideal pets for bigger families and one of the parents doesn't work or works part time. They thrive in big fenced in yards. I intentionally adopted an old and small dog, so he would be easier for me to take care of by myself. I'm sure eventually the vet bills will become difficult, but for now he is the perfect dog for me. That being said, I understand how this isn't for everyone.
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I was looking for this one! I have an 8.5 y/o racer who needs at most 30 minutes of walking 2x a day. Aside from that she naps until it’s time for after dinner pets or staring at us. Unfortunately, we’re currently in limbo with potential osteosarcoma, which is a concern with long-boned/giant breeds
Dogs are a lot of work for sure. I think they are ideal pets for bigger families and one of the parents doesn't work or works part time. They thrive in big fenced in yards. I intentionally adopted an old and small dog, so he would be easier for me to take care of by myself. I'm sure eventually the vet bills will become difficult, but for now he is the perfect dog for me. That being said, I understand how this isn't for everyone.
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That’s why I only get lazy breeds. I’m happy with a dog that has maybe 4 hours of buzz each day to interact and play and prefers to spend the rest of their time lounging around.
This is exactly why I got a Shih Tzu. Both my wife and I are disabled and it’s great that I can satisfy her with three 2/10’s of a mile walk every day. This current one is high energy too. Our last Shih Tzu lived just sitting around. He was great.
I mean a lot of that depends on your living situation and dog breed/individual. I have a small toy breed dog that only needs one walk a day to satisfy her energy requirements, and a fenced in backyard so all I need to do is crack the door open for her when she needs to go to the bathroom. Then 2-3 times a week I go out with my chompy yard scooper thing to pick up poop. It’s really not much more work than a cat, which I’ve also owned in the past.
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Match the breed to the life you actually haveThe most repeated advice in the corpus, argued right down to named breeds and the jobs they were built for.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Match the breed to the life you actually have
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Match the breed to the life you actually have
Situation: Choosing a dog by what it was bred to do rather than by how it looks
Why readers chose it: 173 records, the most repeated advice in the corpus, and it is argued at breed level rather than in the abstract. The claim is that people choose by appearance, or by a film, an influencer or a status association, and then meet the job the dog was built for. Huskies, malinois, border collies, corgis, Australian shepherds and hounds are named over and over — usually by their own owners. A dog trainer, a vet, a groomer, a shelter volunteer and the adult child of two veterinarians all appear here saying the same thing. The clearest positive case is the commenter who worked through breed, budget and schedule before adopting a three-legged Staffordshire mix and reports seven straightforward years.
What readers reported: People need to also pay attention to the behavior of different breeds, rather than just the appearance. I've seen too many people adopt a dog they liked the look of, only to later realize that they have behaviors that don't match their own.
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This is the thing, it seems most people get a dog, without planning, without considering breed type, without considering its a living being with needs. I understand where most of the comments here come from and they are just venting , but dang was it sort of deppressing. Your comment was the only that wasnt "cant wait till my dog dies, never again" thank you.
I researched and got an Italian greyhound because I needed a quiet apartment dog. He was great when I lived in a city apartment, but I hate him now that I live in a house in the countryside (got married and moved to husband's house). He barks all the time, tries to chase scooters and cars (we have a wall around our property, but he still tries), steals trash (he can open the trash cans), and pees everywhere (got bad during my pregnancy, and never got better). He's the dog that has made me - a lifelong dog lover - decide that I never again want to have another dog.
This Exactly. Had a Maltipoo for ten years and she was my soul dog. Now I have a Blue Nose Pitbull girl who is very sweet, but their Behaviors are ASTRONOMICALLY different. Consider Before You Buy/Adopt. I'll be real, the pitbull is a brat and causes trouble for attention. My other dog would just beg for the attention without causing trouble. Both are annoying, but one is damaging/costing you extra money. (Ex. Pitbull ruined the hardwood floor by peeing on it at night even though she gets taken out before bed. Won't be in her cage anymore without trying to escape and injuring herself so I just stopped putting her in it at night, hence her peeing all over the floor whenever she wants. It used to be her safe space but once she got a bit older her attitude totally changed. Rips the couch trying to get comfy so she is only allowed on the love seat now, which I fear will also get ripped.) Those are just a few My Maltipoo acted the same her entire life, and I loved it. Her personality lastest until the last three days of her life, only because she was so weak. I have seen the Pitbull's change throughout her life and she just became more and more bratty. Maybe someone can enlighten me on what I'm doing wrong this time around to have this happen so often with her bratty behavior and the accidents in the house. She goes outside to go potty, then just does it in the house "for attention" then will come running to me as if to say "look what I just did" My Maltipoo was so obedient in the potty department so I'm wondering what I've done wrong.
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I actually plan on getting one next year! They are little dogs with big dog energy! They *can* be quite loud (some of the ones that come in never make a peep) Fair warning though, they do have a high prey drive and they love to dig! They can also be a little stubborn to train. I'd suggest reading all you can on the breed, watch videos and see if that is something you can handle, be honest with yourself so you can make the best decision! If you do decide to get one please look into finding an ethical breeder as Doxie's are prone to IVDD. Or if you'd prefer to adopt look into doxie shelters. Wish you the best of luck in finding a furry friend to fit your lifestyle ❤️
I love dogs, I'm a dog groomer, but I own two cats. Have no plans of getting a dog in the near future and there is a TON of breeds and mixes I would never get. People really need to look into the personality traits of the dog they're looking into over looks. Terriers are not for me, aside from possibly a boston terrier. Herding breeds are out, any kind of hunting dog aside from a water retriever is out, I'd consider a great pyrenees depending on the amount of space I have available. Huskies, German Shepherds, and Malinois are no gos. Basically I'd be down for a big stupid lab, big stupid poodle, possibly one of the scenthounds or a greyhound, or an akita. I like pomeranians too, but my partner wants a larger dog.
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People need to also pay attention to the behavior of different breeds, rather than just the appearance. I've seen too many people adopt a dog they liked the look of, only to later realize that they have behaviors that don't match their own.
I was surprised that so many people don't know that Corgis are working dogs; herders, no less. They were literally meant to run across fields all day, corralling *cattle*. They have incredible endurance and energy that needs to be let out. We have a Corgi/Aussie, and we never had behavioral issues like barking or destructiveness because he has a day job keeping a herd of horses in check. Whenever he's home, he's too busy sleeping like a baby.
Hounds aren’t an easy breed, try like.. a fish next time.
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Borrow a dog instead of owning oneFostering, sitting, dog-sitting for relatives — and the phrase this corpus repeats more than any other.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Borrow a dog instead of owning one
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Borrow a dog instead of owning one
Situation: Getting the dog without the decade
Why readers chose it: 110 records, and they produce the phrase this corpus repeats more than any other: other people's dogs. The arrangements are concrete — dog-sitting for relatives three to ten days at a time, fostering, a Rover account, house-sitting, a standing arrangement to walk a neighbour's dog. Several describe using a fortnight of minding somebody else's dog deliberately as a test before adopting, and deciding against. The card contains its own limit too: several of the people who tried it report that by day three of somebody else's dog they were finished, which is precisely the answer they had gone looking for.
What readers reported: Had a Golden Retriever for 10 years. After he died 6 years ago, life became sooo much easier. (He was a great family dog). Now my family dog-sits for our friends and family regularly. It's a killer life hack... Enjoy the dog(s)for 3 to 10 days! Give em back! No need for a decade + of inconvenient responsibility!
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My in-laws have a big dog that...lacks restraint. When they go out of town, they have my 85 year old grandmother in law take the dog to her house. This dog is difficult to walk as she pulls the leash and often climbs on people. My wife and I end up staying at my GIL's, but it's really inconvenient and a big ask. I 100% disagree with having my life revolve around an animal.
I love dogs as long as they're not my own. Never again
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Yep. I just watched my neighbor’s puppy for a few hours and, while she was lovely and I had fun, I was reminded why dogs are not for me. Happy to be the fun auntie 🤣
Hard agree. I tell people I love dogs.. for other people. Not for me. I love them and then give them back.
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See? And this is why as a general lover or liker of pets, I simply make friends who already have the pets. Same with kids tbh. I can play and frolic all I want with your chickens, but then I get to go home and don't have to worry about it!
Being a dog uncle/aunt is the sweet spot. You get all the cute tail wags, but the moment its time to clean up muddy paw prints or hunt for hidden landmines in the yard, you get to hand them back! I own cats and they might act like arrogant landlords, but at least they quietly use a box and dont require 24/7 high energy supervision
I love dogs. I’m a pet sitter. I would never own one.
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Kit and workarounds that fixed one specific problemSmall concrete fixes rather than advice: a gravel run, a bungee leash, a scoop, an exercise pen, a snuffle blanket.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Kit and workarounds that fixed one specific problem
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Kit and workarounds that fixed one specific problem
Situation: One object or trick against one named problem
Why readers chose it: 45 records offering something concrete rather than advice. The yard fixes are the most repeated: a fenced or gravelled toilet run, artificial turf, a long line, a mat laid over a patch of grass before snow, and a long-handled jaw-type scoop so nobody has to bend. The walk fixes are a waist-worn bungee jogging leash that one mastiff owner says instantly ended pulling, a muzzle for a dog that eats things off the ground, and keeping a dedicated pair of rubber boots by the back door. Two are about visibility rather than effort: pumpkin turning stools bright orange so they can be found in grass, and a treadmill for zoomies. The rest are deterrents people started carrying after an off-leash incident — a collapsible baton, pepper gel, bear spray, and a can of compressed air a trainer supplied.
What readers reported: I know there are a lot of downsides, but when you lose them you forget all the annoying parts of keeping them. For the yard cleanup I do have some advice, I also had a walk and pooper. Firstly diet additions like a scoop of puréed pumpkin helped immensely, not only from a digestive standpoint but the poops were now bright orange, much easier to see in the yard. I kept a pair of rubber boots at the back door for poo patrol, easy to hose off and I don't care about them. I also kept a shovel and a bag ready in an inconspicuous spot, it's much easier to step into the boots and scoop in under 3 minutes than find the trail later.
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I hate it so much. My husband and I carry pepper gel in the bag we take to walk the dog. I would do anything to prevent my dog from getting attacked. We have a baby now and we either all take a walk or only the dog goes. I don’t think I could keep everyone safe if I had both out on my own. My dog is also extremely leash reactive, but it’s barrier frustration. He just wants to greet the other dog. We’ve worked on it a lot with a behaviorist, but people don’t realize how dangerous it is to let their dog off leash. My dog will sometimes redirect his frustration back at the person holding his leash if he can’t get to the other dog and they get too close. He’s never broken skin, but he’s bitten me and my husband in these situations. He’s a good dog and we do our best to give him space. We walk him in open areas, we avoid crowds, we walk at off times, we have strategies. I have yelled at people to leash their dog all over (trails, parks, in the neighborhood). I know I sound annoying, but I’m just trying to protect my dog. Gonna suck if their dog gets sprayed for coming at us.
So not to be weird but like it's not always like that. My dog only poops when I'm walking him on leash, making it really easy to scoop his poop. If you struggle bending down, get a poop scoop. It'll change your life. Dogs are also hardier than you'd think. I worked vet med for years and we saw dogs with severe issues bounce back with no problem. One of the DVM's dogs once stole an entire plate of brownies and didn't even get diarrhea. We had a decrepit Yorkie who didn't have a bottom jaw but he didn't even notice. We had several dogs with broken legs continue to walk on the broken leg. If you need to, you can crate your dog while you play with your kid. Or put her in a different room or something. Quite honestly it's not that different from having a toddler
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I hate it so much. My husband and I carry pepper gel in the bag we take to walk the dog. I would do anything to prevent my dog from getting attacked. We have a baby now and we either all take a walk or only the dog goes. I don’t think I could keep everyone safe if I had both out on my own. My dog is also extremely leash reactive, but it’s barrier frustration. He just wants to greet the other dog. We’ve worked on it a lot with a behaviorist, but people don’t realize how dangerous it is to let their dog off leash. My dog will sometimes redirect his frustration back at the person holding his leash if he can’t get to the other dog and they get too close. He’s never broken skin, but he’s bitten me and my husband in these situations. He’s a good dog and we do our best to give him space. We walk him in open areas, we avoid crowds, we walk at off times, we have strategies. I have yelled at people to leash their dog all over (trails, parks, in the neighborhood). I know I sound annoying, but I’m just trying to protect my dog. Gonna suck if their dog gets sprayed for coming at us.
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I started carrying a collapsible baton because there were so many off leash pitbulls in my old neighborhood. Once I pulled it out and expanded it was the only time the owners would call their dogs back and it was often the surprise/noise from the baton that scared the dog off. Everyone's right, it's the owners not the dog. I hate pitbull owners.
I carry Halt. Our neighbor weighs probably 120 and walk a Rottweiler that’s close to his weight. I’ve walked outside multiple times to this dog lunging at me and pulling him 4’ before he regains control. I WILL NOT let my dog be injured by an irresponsible pet owners decisions. I’ll spray the dog AND then if I have to.
Yeah they are a ton of work. Buy rubber boots for the back yard. Take it on a walk. It helps them chill. The worst is coming. They only live a few years and then drop dead. It sucks out your soul and you just wish the poop was still in the back yard
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The other side of the argumentThe thread's own rebuttal, kept beside the answers it disputes rather than filed away as a separate topic. 1653 records.
This is the deal, and everyone signed itNot a denial that dogs are hard work. An argument that the work was the known price of the thing.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: This is the deal, and everyone signed it
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This is the deal, and everyone signed it
Situation: Accepting that the work is real and arguing that it was knowable
Why readers chose it: 161 records that concede the work and dispute the conclusion. The argument is not that dogs are easy: several of the loudest records here are from owners saying dogs are enormous work, that most people should not have one, and that they say so to their friends. What they reject is surprise — that the walks, the waste, the cost and the tie to the house were all knowable before the dog arrived. A professional pet-sitter and a dog trainer both argue it from inside the job. The concession the card makes more than once is the one that matters: that the work being foreseeable does not make it any smaller.
What readers reported: That’s kind of op’s point. Dogs are a lot of work, including (and especially) training them. That’s not easy for many people. So that’s definitely part of what he’s talking about.
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I’ve never once stepped on my own dogs shit. Because I pick it up like a responsible dog owner. Even in my own yard. Because I understand my dog needs to go to the bathroom outside and I don’t want to step on it when I go outside. My dog also doesn’t try to eat everything in existence, because it’s trained. And at the end of the day I love when my dog is clingy to me because it makes me feel good and it’s a good dog. Kudos to OP for an unpopular opinion, but in my opinion it’s unpopular because OP is a shitty dog owner and didn’t have the mental maturity to understand what the actual responsibility of owning a dog is.
Untrained dogs are exhausting. Been reading this thread and there are way too many people making it sound like being needy and destructive is acceptable behavior for a dog.
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Its true. Its why I hate it when people close to me who are in financial distress get a dog on a whim. Then they either end up rehoming or stop caring and letting them die naturally. I dont have a dog because im not financially responsible enough and I effing love dogs
I’m unfortunately going to have to agree. I love them, but that shit is HARD, man.
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*gets dog* *is confused why dog is being a dog*
Dogs are a huge responsibility. We are empty nesters and miss having a dog, but we love to travel. I also don’t want the extra cleaning that comes with dog ownership right now. Your post is great because it points out reality. Dogs are a ton of work. They also give you unconditional love and being happiness if you’re willing to do the work.
Did a dog write this? Dogs are exhausting and I’m sure anyone who isn’t completely on board with them is getting downvoted in this post.
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What the dog gave backThe corpus's positive evidence, offered mostly by people who had just finished listing the costs.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: What the dog gave back
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Situation: The other side of the ledger, usually written by the same people
Why readers chose it: 172 records of what the dog returned, and the notable thing is who writes them: many are the same commenters who have just finished itemising the costs. The reported benefits are specific rather than sentimental — structure and a reason to leave the house during depression, weight lost because of the walks, a socially unarguable excuse to go home, a sense of safety living alone, and in several records a dog that detected a serious illness before a doctor did. More than one commenter states plainly that the dog is why they are still alive. The card carries its own dissent too: that the security benefit is overstated and a camera does the job better.
What readers reported: It rules and sucks. I loved my dog her whole life. She made my life better in a million ways. On the daily she forced me to have responsibility and structure I wouldn't have otherwise. Got me moving when I was depressed and always had love for me. She was also the push I needed to move out of my parents house (they replaced the carpet and she kept slipping all the time) which made me step up to full time employment and promotions. In a ridiculous set of dominoes, that got me a job with education benefits and let me get my bachelor's degree. She also cost me so much money. That same responsibility while living alone made me structure my days around her always. Apartment hunting with a dog thats more than 30 pounds is impossible. Maybe it was an excuse not to be a social or the albatross around my social life's neck. Either way, it did suck to have to go home after work every day or not be able to plan an impromptu weekend. Lastly, in my 20s I wanted to try living totally car-free but I never committed to it because of my dog. Her medical issues and passing are some of the most heartbreaking things in my life and also I'm not in a hurry to get another dog.
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I always had dogs. I grew up with them. I love dogs. But my last dog was my literal best buddy. He was found beaten and malnourished in Los Angeles Chinatown. He was very sketchy but just needed love. He was on death row as unsaveable. At the same time, I was going through a maddening mental breakdown. Lost my Dad, my identity, my life purpose... I decided I would take on this dog. Over the course of years I helped him become the kindest and most gentle soul one could imagine. He was my shadow. And he was always by my side, always. He slept under my desk while I worked everyday, sat by my side during meals, even walked beside me while I mowed the lawn... This dog was my buddy. Then he developed a heart condition. Within 36 hours he went from fine to needing my help crossing over... Holding him in my arms while they gave him that shot, and watching him fade out, fucking broke me... I dont know if I can have another dog... not because I dont want one, but it wouldn't be fair to the new dog to never have that kind of bond with it...
Tbh. Ive often hated having go stop what im doing and walk tbe dog. But Rain or shine ive never Regretted walking the dog. I was often dissapointed i had to leave whatever fun i was doing go go home and make sure tbe dog was ok. Ive never been happier walking in that door and seeing his tail wag. Ive often been frustrated i had to plan travel around my dog. Ive never as excited as bringing them on a trip. Negative emotions are normal and natural but loving is looking at the good not the bad
Owning a dog and positively interacting with it releases a person's happy hormones and helps to relieve stress. Bonding with your dog will add more love to your life. Taking care of a dog adds routine and structure to your daily life. Walking your dog in the neighborhood is a way to meet other neighbors who walk their dogs. Dogs can be a wonderful addition to your life in so many ways .The other side of the coin is that they can be expensive (we spent $12k fixing torn ligaments in both of our dog's hind legs )and when they get old you'll become a live-in nurse to an ailing pet. Worst of all, when it's time for them to go, your heart will be broken. We lost our dog after 14 years this winter and it was a heartache , but also a relief. I understand your complaints and recommend you commit to doing your best to make your dog's life a good life. You'll never regret doing the right thing and you'll earn a lot of points with your family.
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This is exactly it. Used my dog as an "I'm over this, I wanna go home" excuse so many times.
Reading this post made me immediately go play with my dog because he's the best.
Agree the responsibilities can become overwhelming at times, but I view it as an honor to care for such a pure, life-loving, trusting creature. I know when he’s gone, I’m going to wish I can pick up his 3-poops again that he does on our walks. (Every time). The financial aspect of the “what ifs” can get me really stressed out, but I have pet insurance and fingers crossed I never have to use it.
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Pick it up when it happensThe thread's single most repeated instruction, and the one rebuttal it keeps getting.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Pick it up when it happens
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Pick it up when it happens
Situation: The reply the thread gave more than any other
Why readers chose it: 107 records giving the same instruction, and it is the most upvoted single piece of advice in the corpus. The method is uniform: go out with the dog, watch, bag it immediately, keep bags by the door. Several supply reasons that make it more than a scold — the dog will eat it if you leave it, it burns the grass, it is an E. coli hazard where a child plays, and the neighbours can smell it. The rebuttal the card receives twice is worth keeping alongside it: that not everybody is home to follow a dog out every time it goes, and that a dog with a door to the yard is not being supervised event by event.
What readers reported: If you pick up the dog’s waste after they use the bathroom then you won’t step on it. If the dog is having a hard time pooping then you need to adjust their diet.
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>I have never been more scared in my life of walking into my own backyard. Take your dog on backyard walks, on a leash. Let her poop, treat her, then practice heels and sits for 15 minutes. Clean up the poop. What it costs: 15 minutes What it gains: Clean backyard better relationship with your dog. >Then there’s the clingyness. She’s sweet and does really cute stuff, but some days she just will not leave me alone. My two-year-old and I love to play chase, and she has cleaned him out multiple times trying to join in. Luckily, my boy is built bigger than most kids his age and just laughs it off, but this dog physically does not understand how to chill the fuck out when the playing doesn't involve her. You have to teach dogs how to play the way you want them to play. Dogs are genetically built to look to humans for social cues. They are going to do what you want, it gives them more pleasure than eating and sex. It's up to you as a responsible dog owner to figure out how to communicate with your dog. Yelling at them will not solve the problem. Getting frustrated is going to make your issues worse, because your dog knows you are irritated during the play, but it doesn't know why. It's doing what you are doing, so it's doing the right thing. That annoyance on your part confuses the dog and sends it mixed signals. That builds anxiety and will (not might, WILL) manifest in other behavior, like increased reactivity or food aggression. You need to learn how to dog dude.
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I’ve had dogs for over 15 years and have never had a trail of shit in my yard because I pick it up right after they go, it’s not that hard. Also, if your dog has a hard time pooping than it might have a medical issue to which you are ignoring. This is a living being for gods sakes. Give them some pumpkin and if that doesn’t work then take them to the vet. Also, the dog’s bad behavior is a direct reflection on you with lack of training and attentiveness. Not here for this take and I hope your dog is loved by someone else in your household because you sound like a complete asshole.
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If you pick up the dog’s waste after they use the bathroom then you won’t step on it. If the dog is having a hard time pooping then you need to adjust their diet.
It 's easy to point out the difficult parts of owning a dog, but the positive qualities more than make up for it. I'd say if you are stepping in dog waste outside your dog is actually well trained and you need to do a better job of cleaning up your property. Part of the reason owners want a dog is because they show unconditional love. if you find a dog to clingy I think the problem is with your ability to express empathy. The good thing about your opinion is that you realize that you shouldn't be responsible for owning a pet. it's better to acknowledge this now than after you get a dog and later give it up.
You’re just irresponsible. A) pick up the shit when the dog shits. Then you won’t step on it. B) my dog has never, ever, ever, tried to eat off of my plate. Because she’s trained. Train the fucking dog instead of embarrassing yourself.
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Walk the dog instead of using the yard as a toiletThe reply that reframes the whole mess complaint as an exercise complaint, with several commenters supplying their own walk counts.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Walk the dog instead of using the yard as a toilet
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Walk the dog instead of using the yard as a toilet
Situation: Rereading the mess complaint as an exercise complaint
Why readers chose it: 66 records reframing the whole problem. The claim underneath is factual rather than moral: that a dog given the choice prefers not to soil its own territory, so a yard full of waste indicates a dog that is not being walked enough. Several supply their own counts as evidence — two walks a day named repeatedly as the bare minimum, three, or two of an hour each — and several outside the United States say the yard-as-toilet arrangement is culturally unfamiliar to them. The strongest version in the card holds that keeping a dog in a yard without walking it is neglect, and one commenter says it is illegal where they live.
What readers reported: She wouldn't have to shit in the yard if you took her for a walk.
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I find it so interesting that this isn't the norm? I know AI can be wrong, but whenever I tell it I walk my dog 4 times a day, 3 short 15-20 minute walks and one long 45 minutes-1 hour walk a day (1.5 hours to 2 hours in total a day), it says that's a lot and to be careful it's not too much for him. Like what? I thought this was normal (we don't have a yard and where I live people usually don't let their dogs poop in their yards anyway). My dog is 12 kg and a moderately active breed. 11 months old.
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See multiple people here whose dogs shit in the yard and that's such a foreign concept to me. I grew up with dogs, my parents have always had dogs. They did *not* shit in the yard, nor pee in the yard. They were taught it's part of the house and it's a no-go zone for pee and poop. At old age their previous dog started leeing in the yard. Trip to the vet, boy had kidney issues (which he unfortunately did not survive). Now, obviously my parents did most of the care but as u got older I did get more involved. Hell I've also washed poop off their butts and once even an ear as the dog was running, tripped, and planted his entire face in a turd. :') longhaired dogs too with floppy ears, so it got all up in there. But honestly if I had the time and was home enough, I'd have gotten a dog in a heartbeat. I loved taking care of the dogs at my parents' place and going on walks with them. Honestly the biggest decision would be what dog to get. On the one had a corgi is adorable, a golden retriever very sweet and somewhat big. But then... Well. I live in a city as a woman alone. An intimidating dog trained to bits would've been wonderful too. :) I got two wonderful cats now tho that I also love to bits. I lived on my own for two years without pets and felt like I was going insane. Just... Coming home to an empty house... Nah man. Growing up with dogs did help me in ways though. I knew the amount of care involved before I got a pet, so I knew what I was signing up for. Also one of my cats is terrified of the vet and will try to murder everyone in the room. He surprised us the first time. Second time I warned the vet, dropped the cat out of his carrier and wrapped him in a towel before he knew what was happening. Like, I managed to control a 25kg dog who wanted to maul the vet, I am not going to let a 5kg cat get the better of me. :')
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I’m thinking the grandmother is likely both feeding the dog table scraps and also is just letting the dog out to shit. She may not have the mobility to actually walk the dog by herself during the day if other people aren’t home.
real and honest? OP simply admit he never takes his dog outside of the yard, then rants about the poop and bad digestion and about the dog being a hassle. OP needs be ashamed. Very weird subreddit this is.
They have this great new invention for backyard poop. It’s called walking your dog.
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That is not a normal poop: change the foodA medical reading of the original post, and the long disagreement underneath it about what a dog should be fed.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: That is not a normal poop: change the food
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That is not a normal poop: change the food
Situation: Treating the original complaint as a medical problem instead
Why readers chose it: 36 records rereading the complaint as a diet or health question. The claim is that a healthy dog on the right food produces firm, easily collected stools once or twice a day, and that trailing, straining or chronic looseness points at an allergy, a sensitivity or something a vet should see. A vet receptionist and several owners of dogs with confirmed sensitivities argue it. The dispute underneath is not settled: one commenter's claim that better food means less waste is contradicted immediately and at length by another arguing that low output is not a health marker, with WSAVA guidelines cited on one side and raw feeding on the other.
What readers reported: Like other people said, training and getting her checked out at the vet should solve most of these problems. Dogs should be producing solid poops that are easy to pick up and dry out pretty quickly. They can also be trained to go in the same spot every time. Your dog shouldn’t be straining so hard to poop. Dogs can also be taught to chill out and not be clingy. Commands like “leave it” “stay” and “settle” are very helpful. My dog can be needy, but she also knows how to entertain herself. Training does take time and effort, but it’s worth it for a less-irritating dog. I’d say the worst thing about dog ownership is never being able to be gone for more than eight hours without arranging for care. Traveling also always has an additional expense, since you need to board them or find a sitter. If I could bring my dog with me everywhere, life would be much easier. But alas, I am not a British aristocrat or Paris Hilton
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The higher the quality of food, the less poop. I feed Nutro Natural Choice and my dog poops very little. Also, you should research breeds of dogs and find one that has a demeanor that matches your lifestyle.
It is all dogs. You just think "not my dog" because thats what everyone thinks. And it may be true for you. But 99% of dogs are poorly trained or not trained at all. Its a huge problem.
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Taking care of a dog is like taking care of a human. If you have nasty poops, get meds like a probiotic. Be responsible and pick up the poop. It's not easy and not for everyone, just like having children. Not for me.
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This isn’t all dogs - at all. You should also change her diet.
Taking care of a dog is like taking care of a human. If you have nasty poops, get meds like a probiotic. Be responsible and pick up the poop. It's not easy and not for everyone, just like having children. Not for me.
Sounds like you need to change the food. It’s not normal for a dog to poop and travel. Sounds like ya’ll need to clean up your yard. Disgusting & unsanitary to leave the poop laying everywhere.
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That is an untrained dog, not a dogThe largest counter-argument in the corpus — and the concession that several of its own supporters end up making.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: That is an untrained dog, not a dog
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That is an untrained dog, not a dog
Situation: The argument that every complaint on the page is a trainable behaviour
Why readers chose it: 254 records, the largest counter-argument in the corpus, and its most interesting feature is how often its own supporters undercut it. The claim is that each specific complaint — waste in the yard, eating things off the ground, barging into a child's game, clinginess — is a trained behaviour, with named commands attached: leave it, place, settle, stay, back. Professional trainers, groomers and long-term owners argue it. But inside the same card a supporter answers the word 'just' by pointing out that it is doing months or years of work; another concedes that almost no dogs are trained and that the reason is that training is hard; and a third notes that some dogs simply do not take to it.
What readers reported: Gimme a break. 99% of people dont train their dogs. So "just badly trained dogs" is almost every dog.
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Please don't get a cat either! Far too many people think you just have to give them food and clean the toilet. Yeah of course you have to do that, that's the bare minimum. You should play at least once a day, they need entertainment and love, too. And of course they can get sick, too. Older cats for example can become incontinent and some owners just take them to the shelter because of that. It doesn't matter what pet you have, it is a living beeing and you are responsible for their wellbeing. Don't commit to it if you just want something cute on demand.
My bf has a 4 yr old corgi which they adopted just last year after her previous owner migrated. She changed my mind about corgis, I absolutely hate the breed now and do not find them cute AT ALL. She rips everything apart, eats her shit, pisses everywhere, sheds like craaazy and doesn’t like getting groomed, gets mad at her american bully brother for no reason, and does not listen to any command at all. I have a feeling it’s because she was a kennel dog with the previous owner, which I am very very sad and angry about. Now she really won’t listen, and does not even want to go out on walks. She barks at everything too. My grandma on the other hand, has a male corgi, whose only issue is his temper with other male dogs. Other corgis I’ve come across in the vet are also loud and aggressive. I really would not recommend them.
Every complaint you have just reinforces one thing thoroughly. You have no idea how to train a dog. Dogs only freely shit in yards if you let them. Dogs only eat whatever they want if you let them. Dogs only hit you with nonstop clinginess and aggressive play if you let them. All of these inconveniences can be rectified but you clearly have no idea how to do it, which is to be expected because you don't have any experience or training. So it's fair. But man, it's crazy to me how many people willingly bring an animal into their homes and then just expect it to *be* the way they want. That doesn't work with children either btw...you sort of have to educate them and teach them lessons otherwise they'll tear your house apart and shit everywhere too.
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This is a really long way to say 'i didn't bother to train my dog and i hate it now'
Sounds like a "your corgi" problem not a corgi problem. Mine listens but it required training from a pro with constant reinforcement. I didn't know anything aboit corgis but my wife wanted one. I will probably get corgis for rest of my life now. We bought from a good breeder...I think most corgis unfortunately come from puppy mills so they didn't have a shot from birth.
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This is so real and honest. Pay attention people and think long and hard before you get a dog. Also, OP you need to look up training methods and eating and digestion etc. You can be proactive and eliminate some frustration
You sound like a poor pack leader. With domestic dogs they are nonviolent because they see their owner as their pack leader, which in the wild is really just the dog that leads their clan.
Train the dog and calm down
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The whole household has to agree, or none of it sticksThe narrow version of the training argument, aimed at houses with more than one adult in them.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: The whole household has to agree, or none of it sticks
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The whole household has to agree, or none of it sticks
Situation: Training a dog in a house where the other adults are undoing it
Why readers chose it: 10 records making a narrower and more testable version of the training argument: that consistency across every adult in the house is what decides whether any of it holds, and that one person feeding scraps or letting the dog out unwatched undoes the rest. Several address the original poster's household directly and suggest the ten-year-old be handed the toilet schedule and the clean-up. It is the smallest card in the corpus, and it maps almost exactly onto one of the largest — the one where the dog belongs to somebody else in the same house.
What readers reported: It's not only his dog. Unless the other two co-operate, he can train the dog every single day for years and nothing will set in because they don't follow suit.
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AND make her clean up if there are accidents. That’ll get her into the habit of taking the dog out real quick
Well siblings, in laws, aunts, uncles and cousins are sometimes just different. I can't decide if they get a dog or not or if they listen to me, but I still have their dogs sometimes especially if you are a caregiver. Dont know why thats so difficult to understand.
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This sounds like bad training though. All of these examples can be solved with consistent training (meaning that EVERYONE in the household must follow the rules). Usually dogs don't poop or pee in what they consider their "den" and that extends to the garden as well. So you can train the dog not to poop across the yard at all, or build a sandbox and teach her to poop there and only there. (You can tell when a dog is about to poop: I recommend keeping the dog on the leash even inside the house, so you can immediately take her outside or in the sandbox). She is clingy because her behavior was reinforced. Ignore her and take control of when and how much attention she receives. Whenever she asks for cuddles, either ignore her completely (no touching, no looking at her and not even scolding), or tell her to go to her bed or kennel and pet her there only. This will also teach her that her bed/kennel is the most awesome space in the house and it can become a calming space in case of storms or instances where she can be frightened. And lastly, you should teach her to wear a basket muzzle so she won't eat random stuff, teach her "leave it" command (you can watch YouTube videos about it). Eating random objects can be a soothing and rewarding activity, that's why she should wear a muzzle so she doesn't keep rewarding herself. All in all, dogs are like kids: you either love having them or not. Unfortunately mine was attacked by unleashed dogs and traumatized by kids who threw firecrackers at him, and I had to work hard to get him where he is now. And I would do it all again, because I loved every step of being a "dog parent".
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Maybe try parenting your daughter? Set times that she needs to take puppy out to potty. She's 10 and needs guidance. Help her build responsibility.
A lot of your problems with owning a dog comes down to training your dog. As a dog owner of multiple breeds from growing up and as an adult now, training your dog and yourself is a lot of work and I don’t blame you for making that statement. Definitely everyone in the household needs to learn to pick up the dog shit everytime and not allow it to get to the point where there’s just shit everywhere. Keep working at training your dog to have boundaries and train them to understand what no means. I’m sure you already have your hands full with life but if you can incorporate some training with your dog it will be worth it in the long run!
“Hey, don’t feed the dog table food. It causes them to have upset stomach.” If you can’t agree on that as a family, then you’re dysfunctional and shouldn’t have pets or kids lmao
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Most people should not have a dogThe counter-argument that ends up on the same side as the complaint it set out to answer.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Most people should not have a dog
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Most people should not have a dog
Situation: The rebuttal that lands on the same side as the complaint
Why readers chose it: 112 records arguing that the modal dog owner is bad at it: dogs crated for twelve to sixteen hours, never walked, never groomed, bought as an accessory or during the pandemic and given up afterwards. Vets, groomers, shelter volunteers, a professional pet-sitter and several trainers make the case, and several of them supply first-hand examples from inside other people's houses. The overlap a few commenters notice out loud is the uncomfortable part: that 'most people should not have a dog' and 'owning a dog is more than most people can carry' are the same observation with the blame moved.
What readers reported: That’s the secret that nobody wants to say out loud. Most people are not good dog owners. Most are okay to bad dog owners.
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Please don't encourage her to get ANY animal. Full stop.
Definitely not coming at you personally OP, but I don’t really understand people that get animals and then complain about it being hard work. You’re bringing something into your household and life that will be completely dependent on you for care and your responsibility to train. Same goes for the people that get pets, rehome them because it’s hard work, and then get more. When you adopt a dog (or any animal) you don’t just sign up for the cute puppy stage, you sign up for the senior years when the dog has accidents in the house, barks more because they’re starting to get old and confused, expensive medical bills, having to help them get around more. It’s like having a kid, you won’t get the cute baby stage forever (which obviously is also extremely hard work). You sign up for at the very least 18 years, sometimes longer or especially if you have a child with some sort of disability. It also kind of breaks my heart when I see people complaining about how hard it is to take care of senior dogs 🥺 while I understand entirely and it’s not false that it’s hard work (I have a 17 year old dog), they just deserve so much more. I may be biased because I lost my senior boy a few months ago and my heart has been broken ever since. I’d do anything to go back to the days where I was covered in his fur, smelling like a wet dog, and cleaning up his poop lol
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Yeah not really shade to the op and more frustration about repeatedly seeing people get dogs without realizing that they arent just born knowing how to behave. Dogs are a lot of work and unfortunately there are a lot if people out there who just dont wanna put in the work.
My corgi is awesome. Unfortunately people who get dogs because of cuteness or because their favorite influencer has one also generally are people not equipped with the knowledge to train their dogs appropriately l.
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Some people aren't meant to be pet owners.
Everything mentioned is caused by human error. Who expects to "play chance with a toddler" and get mad because the poor dog won't "chill the fuck out" because it "doesn't involve her" holy shit some humans man i swear. I have heard more intelligent things having a conversation with a box of rocks. Thank goodness you dont have that dog by yourself op
Not the dogs fault
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Children are harder, and the people who say they are notThe thread's other running comparison, with parents lined up on both sides of it.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Children are harder, and the people who say they are not
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Children are harder, and the people who say they are not
Situation: The comparison the thread keeps returning to and never resolves
Why readers chose it: 155 records comparing the two, with parents on both sides. The case for children being harder is specific: a baby cannot be left alone at all, a dog does not wake you at intervals all night, and nobody is prosecuted for leaving a dog for eight hours. The case the other way is equally specific: the baby stage ends and the dog stage does not, children eventually manage their own toileting, and a child can be taken places a dog cannot. Several parents of both say the puppy phase was harder than the newborn phase. Nobody resolves it, and most of both sides end up agreeing the comparison is about duration rather than intensity.
What readers reported: Completely different things, I wouldn't call it a fair comparison. A dog is a fully functional creature that can generally fend for itself. Left alone for 8 hours it may become bored, depressed, or destructive. A baby cannot protect itself in any way, shape, or form. They could roll over and suffocate on a blanket because they don't have sufficient use of their body yet. A baby left alone for 8hrs has a non-negotiable chance of being seriously injured or dead.
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I disagree, I love my two year old but to each their own!
Yeah I don't know how many people upvoting this regularly interact or have babies lol. I'm in agreement that owning a dog sucks, I have one myself and whilst I love her I rushed in far too quick as a fresh-out-of-home 18 year old and had no idea what I was really getting myself into, 4 of my cats are genuinely easier to deal with than she's coming up to 6 years old and she's a good girl, but dogs are so much extra work. I babysit my infant cousins sometimes and I love them but holy shit, the dogs like a saint in comparison, I never have them for longer than 6 hours at a time and everytime I hand them back it's like another little reassurance that i've made the right choice staying child free lol. One of them at the minute has broken 3 of his mum and dad's televisions since the start of 2026, and these are high up on the wall tvs, Fuck. That.
We had a baby and we had a puppy. The puppy was house broken and stopped crying in the night within a few months. Can't say the same about the baby. There's a reason people want a dog instead of a child. They're less responsibility and emotional investment.
I'm with you OP on this 😂 I have 4 kids, they've out smarted the dog by miles , even the toddler is a doddle compared , they can clean themselves, help with chores ,they know not to jump all over the sofa when wet and muddy, for most parts they can go to the toilet on their own and pee and poop in the toilet, can entetain themselves, aren't clingy AF, and go for walks without them eating random 💩 on the floor,running off or needing to be on a leash. The kids are way better than our dog imo 😂, she (the dog) is an adorable goofball we love her dearly but I would choose to birth quadruples over having another dog. Never again 😂😅
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Same reason people dont want kids. A lot of responsibility.
i'll still take a dog over kids any day.
Well, never have kids. They’re worse
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Get a cat instead, and the differences people namedThe most repeated response to the post, reduced here to the records that name an actual difference rather than just naming a cat.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Get a cat instead, and the differences people named
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Get a cat instead, and the differences people named
Situation: Choosing a pet whose needs fit a working week
Why readers chose it: 236 records that name an actual difference rather than just naming a cat. The differences given are mechanical and consistent: a litter tray removes the walk and the schedule, a cat can be left for a weekend with food, water and a clean box, a cat sitter costs less than a dog sitter, and a cat does not need lifelong training. Many are ex-dog owners describing the switch and the relief, including a dog groomer, an animal control officer and somebody who spent fifteen years specialising in dogs in rescue and veterinary medicine. The honest ones qualify it: one commenter's medically complex cat costs a fortune and is still described as easier. A smaller group name rabbits, reptiles, birds, hamsters or a turtle for the same reasons.
What readers reported: The lack of rigid schedule makes it so much easier. It’s cheaper and easier to get a cat sitter than a dog sitter, even if you pay them extra to stay and play with the cat. You don’t have to take them outside in rain, heat, and freezing weather. They don’t need training (which is a lifelong process for dogs, if you’re a responsible dog owner. You need to keep consistently reinforcing rules for the dog’s whole life). And a number of other reasons. I love my dog and my cat, and I agree that cats require much more time and effort than most people give them, but holy hell cats are still so much easier.
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I really don't think that is good advice on cat caretaking. You may have had an extremely independent/ non attached cat, but cats are not as hands-off as people like to think. Especially single cats require mental and physical stimulation and I would not recommend to anyone, or do so myself in good conscience, leave my cat alone for three! days.
Nope, you just sit next to it in your home
Same, had dogs forced on me by my parents and I'm never again taking one for a piss walk in the rain. All dogs we ever had were properly trained, but still... Its so much work... I have two cats now.
I always wanted a dog growing up but my parents wouldn’t allow it. Years later when I moved in with my first long-term boyfriend, he convinced me to get a cat because “dogs sucked”. We ended up with 2. I loved them both dearly but still longed for a dog. When we broke up, I took my boy kitty with me. Unfortunately, he only lived to 7 due to kidney disease. Anyway, my next long-term bf (now husband) grew up with and loved dogs so after we moved in together, I finally got my dog… She was the sweetest, most loving, and loyal dog but turns out dogs are way more work than I ever imagined. Especially when they get older and start falling apart. She was a pretty big dog, about 85lbs, so when she decided she was done with her walk (often mid-walk), it was a nightmare trying to get her back in the house. I felt so bad because it wasn’t her fault- she was old with bad hips and arthritis but she needed to at least get some exercise and she also needed to poop. We lost her to cancer about a year ago. I was so heartbroken but also relieved that the daily struggle to care for an elderly dog was over. It used to piss me off that my ex hated dogs so much but honestly, he was kinda right - they do kind of suck in ways I didn’t expect. So then my husband and I got a cat recently and honestly, after now having both - cats are far superior pets. The best part is that you don’t have to basically hold their hand every time they have to poop and pee. They just do their business when they need to. My dog didn’t want to even do her business in the privacy of our backyard without me watching and that’s just too much for me lol ETA: also, dogs eat poop.
I felt the same when I got a rabbit. Properly looking after one, as in not just throwing it in a cage, is so difficult. Rabbit proof the whole house, hide all cables, say goodbye to your pristine wooden furniture, everything will always kind of smell, the amount of dust from the hay, the little poops everywhere (which were actually the easiest part). Also, so clingy but also really bitchy. I loved her to bits. But after she passed away, I just said never again.
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Dogs are great. But they're not a potted plant. They need a lot of care and attention and unfortunately many owners don't even do the bare minimum. I've had cats all my life. I love cats, I think they're great. Cats are very hands off. You bring s cat into the home, you both size each other up, you get into each other's rhythm and then that's it, just refill their food and water and scoop the poop and that's it. Leaving home? They'll just chill. Going on vacation? They can easily last 2-3 days or more depending on how many litter boxes you have. You can have a friend just drop by every 2 days to top off the food and water and scoop the poop and they're fine. The most responsibility I had with my cat was when my old boy got diagnosed with diabetes. For 4 years, every single day, 6am and 6pm we had to give him his insulin and feed him. Sure some outings had to be declined or delayed to not miss his shot but that's it. He got another good 4 years thanks to that and I was glad to do it for him. A few years ago I moved in with my girlfriend and she has a dog. I love this dog, I think she's great, but oh my god it's like having an eternal toddler all the time. Pissing and pooping all day, just insane amounts. She goes out and steps on a thorn, off to the emergency clinic. She's at home, she jumps off the couch and throws out her back, off to the clinic again. She can't stay alone at home. She's trying to kill the poor foster kitten we rescued. Our whole lives are structured around this dog and her endless needs. And we have it good compared to others, because there's a lot of stuff she doesn't do that many dogs do like eating stuff that will kill them or ruining furniture etc. I love animals I really do. I've had a bunch of cats, fostered dozens of puppies and kittens, saved baby birds and turtles and even a lizard one time. But honestly if this dog wasn't here when I got here I would have never opted for one.
Yup same. My parents had dogs growing up. We got a cat that attached to me my senior year of high school and I had him for 15 years until he unfortunately passed due to kidney disease. He was tough at the end, but in no way was he more difficult than a dog. Plus no barking. An animal who’s default volume is yell is just stressful
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I grew up with dogs all my life. When I moved out on my own, I swore to never own a dog ever again in my life, for these and many other reasons. Got a cat instead and she is SO much easier to take care of.
I share your sentiments exactly. I love dogs too and often mind my parents' Alaskan Malamute but I couldn't have a dog of my own. Just too much responsibility. I understand why people get cats instead as they're more independent and less needy than dogs. I really like cats too so will probably get one soon.
Yup, you don't have to deal with any of this shit with cats.
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Some of it is the dog, not the ownerThe pushback against the training argument, from people who did everything asked of them and got a difficult dog anyway.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Some of it is the dog, not the owner
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Some of it is the dog, not the owner
Situation: Doing everything correctly and getting a difficult dog anyway
Why readers chose it: 143 records pushing back on the training argument from inside dog ownership. The claim is that temperament is not fully trainable: littermates raised identically turn out differently, service-dog candidates wash out, and several commenters describe doing everything asked of them and getting a hard dog regardless. The evidence offered is comparative — the same owner, the same house, the same methods, two very different dogs — and it comes as often from people whose dog turned out easy as from people whose dog did not. One commenter reaches for the formulation that nature loads the gun and environment pulls the trigger; another simply says the people who insist behaviour is entirely the owner's doing have not met enough dogs.
What readers reported: As a dog owner, I agree with the statement but none of the reasons. Most of this is on you. My first dog had psychological issues stemming from prior abuse, and was very much "hard mode" in every way. My second dog is much easier, but due to his breed he's really hard to train and stubborn in ways I've yet to fully crack. Dogs are great but can be very hard, it's true.
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Oh my coworker has one that comes to work with us everyday, We lovingly call her a "Tiny terror". She is a sneaky little thing when she is up to no good. Terriers in general are stubborn little things and I wouldn't recommend them to most people LOL. Aww poor dog, makes me wonder why have a dog at all at that point.
Shockingly, I have a lazy Husky, that doesn't bark, howl, or scream. I think she's broken 😂 the only time I hear her "scream" is when she yawns in the morning. She's clever af, the only dog I've had that revognizes mw through a window, the other thinks I'm a stranger and barks at me 🙄. I think the longest we've played fetch is 20 mins before she's like meh, I'd rather lay down. She's nosey, she loves sniff walks and looking at people, and her personality is literally like an old lady who watches people through the curtains. We have a deck and she likes to plonk herself on the steps and people watch over the wall/fence, so I sit with her and people watch too and she's happy as can be. I really lucked out rescuing her. My other dog, a poodle mix is fucking bat shit. I love and resent her. She's super obedient and 100% listens, but everything is done at 100 miles an hour, no in between. 😅
My Yorkie is actually very chill and lovely. She know how to be by herself, she understands when to stop. She's collected, never broke anything, doesn't jump, doesn't bark for attention. I'm sure I won the doggy lottery!
I have one perfect dog. Easy as all hell for the last 15 years. Then I have the most annoying heathen of a dog that I got two years after and is now 13. Some days I really, really don’t like that damn thing. I love him. But I don’t like him. Then my parents got a puppy and made him look like an angel. That dog is fucking insane and almost ruined me for wanting another when I watched her for a few weeks while they went on a cruise.
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Dogs are like people. Some you really love, some you hate. Unfortunately it’s possible to get one you hate without it reflecting on having a dog in general. I love my dog and it does literally none of the things you describe….lol
Not gonna lie, it's hard to become a dog person because even if you got the same breed it's gonna be a different personality. In 2021 I adopted my first dog, I cried so hard the firsts 3 months because it was hard as fuck, then I started enjoying it, principally of the shitting thing a pee thing. I enjoyed that dog so much sadly he passed this march. Months Later a cousin gift me the same breed dog, because he knows how I fracking love the first one, but this dog is completely different, it doesn't work the same technics I need to use on my first one. It's like having a different (boy/girl)friend you are so used to it, so when you breakup and meet a new person it become so rare at the beginning. Now multiple that feeling X10, Because you have a another dog after the last because the last literally died and it become a part of your routine. I love dogs but yeah I feel you so hard with your words so much man. The only one thing I suggest to be more tolerable is training, bath training and limits training, every dog can be trainable but you need to be more patient with that little criature
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To piggy back... and every dog has their own personality. We can help influence this when theyre pups, but ultimately, it's there. Same reason some service dog trainees don't make the cut.
My dog is nothing like that. She’s a fat lazy English lab, but easily trained. She sleeps most of the day, she shits in the woods and not in the yard. She listens perfectly. She lays in the yard completely unattended and won’t go in the street even if her favorite neighbors/dog come by…she waits for them to come into our yard. She’s not clingy, in fact she doesn’t really like to snuggle at all. She’s great with kids, never barks (unless I’m the one playing with her and getting her all riled up) and you can walk up to her and take food right out of her mouth without consequence. The breed is a huge factor to start with (and of course each individual animal’s personality within the breed) but even more so it boils down to the amount of time the owner spends working with it, and HOW they attempt to train it.
Nah, this is just your dog.
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Not my experience: my dog does none of thisFlat contradiction of the original post from commenters describing their own dogs instead.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Not my experience: my dog does none of this
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Not my experience: my dog does none of this
Situation: Answering the complaint with a description of a different dog
Why readers chose it: 88 records contradicting the original post directly. They are less arguments than counter-descriptions: dogs that never soil the yard, that ignore food left within reach, that entertain themselves, that can be left twelve hours, that do not smell. Several commenters with five or six dogs say they cannot relate to the thread at all. What makes the card useful rather than merely contrary is that most of them volunteer why — a fenced acre, a matching lifestyle, a breed chosen deliberately for it, or plain luck — and that list is the same one the burden cards produce from the other direction.
What readers reported: man all of these comments just make me realize you guys are terrible dog owners. my dog is fantastic. she’s 8 years old. she’s extremely potty trained hasn’t had an accident inside since she was under a year old. when she REALLY needs to go, she’ll come to the door and let me know. i have her on a good diet and her poops are decent sized, firm, easy to pick up. she sleeps most of the day. i put the work in to train her when she was young. she has manners. she knows not to beg for too long and if someone says no to giving her food, she goes away. she only chews on her toys or things that are allowed to be chewed. she doesn’t run around in the house and cause a ruckus. she walks on a loose leash. she settles VERY easily. when we sit on the couch to watch TV she knows it’s time to chill out. i can just sit and play video games for hours and she won’t bother me. today is her gotcha day. i’m taking her out to the dog beach and then to get a nice steak afterwards. she’s the best dog ever and deserves it
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Yeah makes me sad. I get what they mean but it sounds like they don't truly love the pet. I had a dog that lived to his senior years and just bcs it's the worst heartbreak I've had, I don't think I can handle another dog. Not going through all the emotions again I might die of a broken heart... anyway I hope the op is not part of the dogfree subreddit.........
I’d be broke if I took my dog to the vet every time she ate something weird- duck shit, Bear shit, elk and deer shit, chicken shit, on and on. A slug wouldn’t even get my attention honestly. She’ll be fine, or she’ll puke it up.
I thought I was losing my mind at the comments thank you. Like, I get how it can be frustrating owning a dog if it's naughty, but I've literally never once regretted adopting my dog. Being a more responsible person has literally made my life better too, not worse. They force you to care about something bigger than yourself. And walking daily also is very good for your health
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This thread is kind of insane. Like yeah, owning a dog is a responsibility, but I’ve never had one of these thoughts while owning a dog.
Exactly! I’ve had dogs for decades and have never dealt with what OP is completely about, lol.
Weird. I don’t have that issue. I have 3 dogs. Work full time with dogs. Kinda want another dog… Have multiple other animals and wouldn’t have it any other way. Sounds like most of you don’t actually love your pets and shouldn’t own them ever again 🥲this is actually so sad.
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Cats are not the easy alternative eitherThe reply to the reply, from people who took the cat advice and found their own version of the same problem.
Answer card naming a specific cost of dog ownership that commenters reported, what it cost them, and any mitigation they said worked — or the argument the thread made against that cost being the dog's fault: Cats are not the easy alternative either
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Cats are not the easy alternative either
Situation: Taking the cat advice and finding the same problems in a different animal
Why readers chose it: 113 records answering the most common recommendation in the thread. The itemised costs are recognisable: litter tracked through the house, urine sprayed on walls and still being found years later, vomit and hairballs, scratched furniture, hair in every radiator, 3am wake-ups for food, over $10,000 of surgery on one cat, $400 a month of prescription food for two senior ones, and cats that fight and have to be kept in separate parts of the house. The argument underneath is about neglect rather than effort: several insist cats are not lower maintenance but easier to under-serve without visible consequences, and are answered that a litter tray removing the walk is a real structural difference whatever else is true.
What readers reported: They're not, they're just easier to neglect without realizing it . Cats need just as much stimulation and routine and attention. Just because they don't cry when you leave them alone doesn't mean they are happy. Every time you would have walked you dog you need to play with your cat until they are visibly tired. Every day you need to pick up their poop from the litter box. What exactly is easier about owning a cat?
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This is just not true. A cat will be just fine if you leave Friday evening and come home Sunday afternoon. The dog would be dead (or the house is destroyed at the very least). Maybe it’s not ideal for the cat, but it’s at least doable. The responsibilities are not even close imo and I’ve owned both
I politely disagree. They aren’t exhausting like a dog. I have owned both and cats are more Independent. Unless you think OP is just a bad pet owner?
Fur. It's the fucking fur. Never again (had 2-5 cats at a time for years).
i have two cats and it is ruining my life. one of them has some kind of hair disorder, she has three times as many hairs as a normal cat should have, and she is pure white. my entire apartment is covered in cat hair, dust, bits of litter they carry between their paws, and puke. i leave for 10 hours and there is puke all over the place. i go to bed and wake up and step in puke. i got them the sensitive stomach food- they still puke, mostly her, because she has too much hair and licks herself and pukes. they've spilled cat food all over the floor. i have to keep a faucet running all day for her to drink from because my cat fountain broke, and the constant running water has attracted fruit flies. and she is so affectionate- to the point that i can't be alone and all my clothes are ruined. i'm drowning in cat. i'm dying in here. i'm actually honestly having a really really bad time
I almost ended my relationship with my partner because of his cat. I couldn’t stand the shedding, the yowling, the constant hacking, the litter box, the scratching whenever she would sit in my lap and get startled…. It really took me a long time to learn to live with her. But, funny story: it was his ex gf’s cat, she left it there after they broke up. Now we’re moving abroad and his ex wife has agreed to take her in. Lol it’s a crazy ex cat distribution system.
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I've never had a dog, but I had a similar experience with my cat. We had cats growing up, but my ONLY responsibility was to feed them. It was only one cat at a time and they used big dog bowls for some reason, so literally like once a day I had to check if I needed to pour some kibble into the giant bowl, dump out the water and add fresh water. Once a week I had to wash the bowls, even then my brother likes doing that for some reason so obviously if he offered I'd wander off to play with my friends or whatever. As an adult when I got a cat my husband took most of the responsibility. I'm not good with puke, poop, hairballs, etc, he did all that. I pass out if I see blood, anxiety with needles etc. he took the little guy to the vet. I adore that cat, but when we seperated last month the first thing he said was that he was going to miss the cat, and my instant reply was 'oh, no, I know he's technically mine, but I kind of assumed you'd take him'. We then went back and forth about who lives the cat more. Neither of us is cruel or neglects the cat, If something happened where I HAD TO take him I'd figure it out, I never want to send him to a shelter or anything, but in this case he was just worried he was stealing my buddy and I was like... Nah, I just know cat poo won't help the depression. Anyway, he moved out and I stayed, so we agreed the cat would hang out with me for a couple weeks while my ex unpacked and got settled, set up feliway and some cat furniture etc. The cat was stressed about the change and spent the first 24 hours shitting and puking on everything, I was having a panic attack in the bathroom at midnight because I'd changed my sheets twice and now would have to sleep on a damp bed that smelled of this insanely perfumed enzyme cleaner. I called my ex and begged him to come get the cat in the morning. He puked at his flat for a couple days then basically settled in and seems really happy now. I cried when I went over to see him for the first time in a few weeks the other day, I feel like I failed, I know I definitely don't want another cat though. This guy did nothing wrong, I just realised I love animals but I'm not a pet person unless the pet is primarily someone else's responsibility.
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And the allergens, hair everywhere, hairballs, scratched furniture, cleaning the litter box, vet bills.
There is irony here saying dogs smell... If you own two cats, your house smells. Period. Sorry. I've been in a /lot/ of houses and have never been in a house with 2+ cats and some room in that house (or the entire house itself) didn't smell disgusting.
Cats walk across your freaking kitchen counter sprinkling kitty litter along the way. Not to mention having them shit in your home. Dogs at least do it outside.
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What the counts show
Across 113 source records, the most common observable tactic structure is “Use a sensory reset” (11 records). This is a wording pattern, not a measured outcome.
What commenters explicitly report
These buckets are a deterministic partition based on explicit phrasing in the source text; they are not sentiment scores or effectiveness findings.
Observable tactic structures
Counts show source records whose wording matches the tactic structure; biological explanations remain commenter claims unless separately checked below.
Browse the original comments113 preserved records · 113 of 113 source records accounted for
Archive: 113 index entries preserve 113 distinct source records · Every displayed synthesis count resolves to source-record IDs
How this catalog was built
Source: Reddit comments — 1 thread, 5471 comments (2935 top-level, 2536 replies)
Selected comments from the discussion
This export carries real like counts and timestamps. The first 18 are the most resonant on-topic top-level comment from each stage of the discussion, ranked by resonance within their arrival-time cohort so later arrivals are not penalised for having had less time to accumulate likes. The last 6 received no likes at all and were chosen for the specificity of what they describe.
How the discussion breaks down
Relative volume of distinct source-backed records across every reviewed category in this corpus.
The other side of the argument
1653 distinct coded comment records13 normalized answers
What people said actually worked
516 distinct coded comment records7 normalized answers
Saying it out loud
415 distinct coded comment records7 normalized answers
The mess
297 distinct coded comment records6 normalized answers
Health, old age and the end
265 distinct coded comment records5 normalized answers
The schedule that never lets up
249 distinct coded comment records7 normalized answers
The household, the housing and everyone else
244 distinct coded comment records5 normalized answers
What a dog actually cost, in figures
228 distinct coded comment records4 normalized answers
When the dog becomes unmanageable
225 distinct coded comment records6 normalized answers
The noise
39 distinct coded comment records2 normalized answers
Which costs the thread actually named, and what it argued about
The question worth putting to a thread like this is not whether owning a dog is hard, which nobody here disputes, but which specific costs people name when they are allowed to say it out loud — and what, if anything, they say made those costs smaller. Every quotation below is a commenter's own words, reproduced exactly and attributed to its source record. None of it is verified beyond that: these are personal reports, including the veterinary and behavioural claims commenters make at each other.
The costliest thing in this corpus is not the dog. It is another dog. The most-upvoted comment in the whole thread is “The hardest part of dog ownership is that even if you do everything right, some other jerk can let their aggressive dog attack your leashed dog and now you have a reactive dog that can barely be in public and will never trust another dog again.” — and 79 records answer it with the same story. A further 27 describe what that leaves you with afterwards, which is where the real cost sits: boarding kennels that will not take the dog, walks moved to the middle of the night, and training bills that do not fix it. One commenter's arithmetic is explicit: “My sweet 3 year old dog, was attacked by an unleashed Rottweiler. He has never been the same dog. He’s reactive and I can’t find people who can watch him. A house with no dog that like watching your dog — are like a unicorn and charge a bomb. Paying $45/day to boarding, I am looking at $75-120/day. It’s annoying. Even after we have worked with trainer for 14 weeks, he’s less reactive on leash. But he said never leave him with another dog. He has a fight or flight response!”
The money is specific. 228 records are about cost, and the recurring figures are not the ones people expect. The thread's second-most-upvoted comment sets the frame — “Those are easy ones. Wait until you want to go in a vacation, or for your logical brain to meet your emotional brain when the dog needs $10,000 in treatment at 10 years old.” — but the monthly totals underneath are what accumulate. One owner itemises it: “I essentially feed my dog money. He has really bad allergies, needs lots of walks (lots), constant ear infections, needs medication that is $100 a month, and special food that is $90 a month. When we go away it's like $400 for someone to watch him. His annual visits are about $300 for all his shots and stuff. He is addicted to greenies so god forbid we don't give one to him at 8PM. Because of his allergies, he needs grooming all the time too which is about $100 lol I will love him and be by his side until the very end, because he is so loyal to my wife and I, but I could only imagine life being cheaper and less complicated once he passes. He has been through so much with us. He is 9 now. I love that dog so much though. I'd do anything for him, but I truly understand.” Another totals it up as “It’s a lot of cash too if you want to take care of them well. I spend $800 a month on my dog averaged out over the course of a year. This includes pet insurance, a savings fund (I gradually lower the pet insurance amount and increase savings amount as pet insurance sky rockets), yearly vet visit with blood work and teeth cleaning, gps dog collar yearly subscription, food and treats. I do his grooming/ bathing and we have family to watch him otherwise that would add on even more. It’s overkill sure, but I don’t have kids and having him has helped my depression and anxiety immensely so he’s worth it. But it’s wild to think he’s a whole ass nice car payment every month 🙃” The insurance argument is the only genuinely two-sided practical debate in the corpus, and it is argued in numbers on both sides: “Did the math and realized I was going to likely be burning money by getting pet insurance but never wanted to deal with the mental gymnastics of deciding between treatment and saving money.”
The thread's biggest fight is about picking up faeces, and it is not really about faeces. 131 records treat it as the daily grind of dog ownership; 107 reply that this is a solved problem — “They have this great new invention for backyard poop. It’s called walking your dog.” — and 66 more argue that a dog using its own garden is a symptom of a dog that is not being walked. Underneath, 36 records reread the original complaint as a medical one. The counter-argument is answered once, plainly: “No amount of training will change the fact that your new routine will include picking up shit at least twice a day for 10 years.” and once from the other direction: “I mean my dog has a doggy door and free access to poop when he pleases. Not everyone is available 24/7 to pick up their dogs shit the second they go. What a ridiculous comment.”
The largest single counter-argument — 254 records saying this is an untrained dog rather than a dog — concedes its own point more often than it realises. One of its supporters puts the cost back in: “Agreed. And why is that? Because training your dog takes a lot of time and effort. And some dogs don’t take to it as well, either. So the “just” in there is just months or years of concerted effort.” And a separate group of records reports doing all of it and getting nowhere anyway: “We put 3k into training and the dog is still clingy af, counter surfs, and barks at everything. Sometimes training doesn't help. 😂”
What people said worked is narrower than what they said was wrong. 173 records come down to matching the breed to the life you already have, and 110 take the further step of recommending somebody else's dog. The concrete fixes are small and specific — “Re: the multi-poops, try adding a teaspoon of psyllium husk and a cup of water to her food. Fixed my husky’s poop problems almost overnight. As a bonus the water slows them down and prevents bloating” — and the honest ones name what they did not solve: “Thank you for the suggestion (genuinely). She is on Prozac and it does make a huge difference in her anxiety, but not enough to eliminate her reactivity. She had a fair amount of anxiety before being attacked (she’s a rescue and I’m certain experienced abuse), but was at least well socialized with other dogs. I’ve talked to her vet about some additional meds or alternatives, but we’ve (vet and I) decided Prozac is her best bet for right now. The treat bombing I may give a shot. She’s not super food/treat motivated, but it can’t hurt to try.”
And the conclusion is remarkably consistent. 111 records say they will not get another dog, almost always while still keeping the one they have; 140 more are readers deciding, in public, not to start. The senior years and the ending are why: 62 records describe the care an old dog needs and 66 describe the decision that follows it, several of them naming relief in the same sentence as grief. The single most repeated reply in the corpus is to get a cat instead (236 records give an actual reason for it), and 113 records answer that with the same complaints in a different animal.
Browse the original comments5,471 audited comments and replies
Dataset, coverage, and methodology
How this was counted
The working unit is a comment record, not a person and not a distinct problem. All 5471 canonical comments from this one thread (2935 top-level, 2536 replies) were read thread by thread and each was assigned to exactly one answer card or one exclusion bucket.
4131 records report a specific cost of dog ownership or dispute that the cost is the dog's fault, and all 4131 appear in the complete index below. The other 1340 break down as jokes, puns and meme replies that report nothing (400), insults and dismissals with nothing reported (289), bare agreement, applause and emoji (165), questions and requests put to another commenter (109), cat-care tangents that never return to dogs (92), one-line “get a cat” replies with no reason attached (90), comments about the subreddit, the thread or its upvotes (40), conversational asides inside somebody else's story (33), off-topic tangents (33), a sub-thread about human assisted dying and healthcare politics (32), breed-politics arguments with no ownership cost reported (31), an argument about whether dogs are better than people (17), records removed, deleted or unreadable (8), and one moderator bot notice (1).
Cards are grouped by what the burden IS, not by breed. A corgi that barks and a beagle that barks are the same answer; a five-figure surgery and a $500-a-month prescription are two shapes of the same one. Corrections stay in the card of the answer they correct.
The thread's counter-arguments are cards, not exclusions. 254 records argue this is an untrained dog rather than a dog, 107 that the mess is solved by picking it up, 236 that a cat was the right pet — and 113 answer that last one with the same complaints in a different animal. They are reported beside the answers they dispute rather than filed away.
4131 counts classified comment records, not distinct problems; the thread named 49 distinct burdens plus 13 running arguments about its own premise. Repeats were deliberately kept: 131 records are about picking up after the dog and 79 about the same reactive-dog story, and each stays its own row.
This thread is from r/unpopularopinion and includes people describing regret, rehoming and euthanasia. Those records are reported with their source IDs and in their own words. They are not endorsed, corrected or moralised at, in either direction, and the commenters who disagree that a dog is a burden are kept in the same index rather than removed from it.
Upvote counts are the raw numbers as captured. The first hour of this thread holds 34.1% of all its upvotes, so ranking by raw upvotes would mostly rank arrival time; the cards below are ordered by how many records they hold, not by popularity.
Nothing here is verified. Costs, diagnoses, medication names, training claims and breed claims are what commenters typed at each other, quoted exactly and attributed to a source record. Read it as a record of what one crowd reported, not as veterinary or financial advice.
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